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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right, We're back again on Fox Sports Saturday. Kevin Figures,

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Speaker 2: Adam Allston, F and A on FSR.

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Speaker 3: There hasn't been a four peat since like the sixties, right,

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking of Boston with Bob.

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Speaker 2: Coosey oh, when there was like four teams in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do those rings still count?

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Speaker 2: Depends on who you ask. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Old heads will fight to the death even though there

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Speaker 3: were just eight teams fighting to the death back in

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Speaker 3: the sixties to claim those rings, especially Boston Celtics fans

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Speaker 3: of course, because uh, I've only won like two in

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Speaker 3: the modern era over the last thirty five years.

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Speaker 2: Good southing from counting all the rings from back in

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 3: Though, Sorry, I'm starting to sound like a Laker fan here,

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Speaker 3: like I'm taking a shot at Boston, but that is

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Speaker 3: not something I would do.

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Speaker 2: Got k fig one is where you can find me

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Speaker 2: on X. Adam is that follow Adam A on X

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Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio as well. Got a big show

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Speaker 2: lined up for you guys for the next three hours.

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Speaker 2: We're obviously get in to Week one of college football.

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Speaker 2: At Week zero last weekend Week one, I already had

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Speaker 2: a major upset On Thursday, Boys E State going down

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Speaker 2: had a big Colorado matchup against Georgia Tech. They came

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Speaker 2: down to the wire. Dion saying that he wanted to

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Speaker 2: get back to the run game this year. Shocking. I

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Speaker 2: wonder why, considering who his quarterback is, not.

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Speaker 3: He knows how to run out the clock. Yeah, how

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Speaker 3: does this look. I'm not trying to say that I'm

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Speaker 3: smarter than all these coaches that can draw off the

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Speaker 3: ex y banana plays and know where everyone's going to

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Speaker 3: be on the field. I'm not, but I'm not a

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Speaker 3: darkharmed guy. But I do feel like I could do

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Speaker 3: a better job when it comes to clock management than

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Speaker 3: about ninety percent of college football coaches and NFL coaches.

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe this stuff still happens all the times

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Speaker 3: where they just completely mismanaged the clock a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of times. I don't know if the game is

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Speaker 2: just moving too fast for them on the field or

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Speaker 2: what the situation is, but it happens constantly, and it

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Speaker 2: happens at the pro level too.

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Speaker 3: Andy Reid, who has won multiple Super Bowls now, but

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Speaker 3: he used to get killed for it in Philly and

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Speaker 3: in his early days in Kansas to see.

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Speaker 2: He's still I think at times is not the best

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Speaker 2: when it comes to managing the clock, and he gets

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Speaker 2: he finds a way to manage around it. I guess

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Speaker 2: that happens when you have Patrick Mahomes and Steve Spagnolo

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Speaker 2: as a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: But how does something that important, though, get overlooked? I

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Speaker 3: don't know how was someone's job. Don't they have a

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Speaker 3: time management guy that should be on it?

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Speaker 2: I think most teams do now, or if they don't,

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Speaker 2: they definitely should. Time magic go should be tethered right

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Speaker 2: next to the head coach. But we digress.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Breeze, like you guys are about to

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Speaker 3: mismanage the clock here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, Bri. I was just getting ready to

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Speaker 2: dive deep into the San Jose State game that just happened.

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Speaker 2: We had a ride, right, Do you not want me

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Speaker 2: to talk about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, okay, lace as we're out, fine, we will get

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Speaker 2: into some college football obviously coming up in today's show.

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Speaker 2: Coming up an hour two of the show, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Dan Wolkin, now of Yahoo Sports formerly of USA Today.

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Speaker 2: He will come on and talk about the big storylines

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Speaker 2: as Week one of college football kicks off this weekend.

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Speaker 3: We also got strangerin Fiction Breeze three. It is a

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Speaker 3: fully loaded FNA on FSR show, And you know how

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Speaker 3: we like to start things off.

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Speaker 5: Coon.

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Speaker 3: That's wrong, Kevin, you got some explaining to do for

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Speaker 3: your cowboys?

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Speaker 2: What my cowboys?

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Speaker 3: Maybe we could just have to explain that I threw

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Speaker 3: you under the bus a little too fast.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, not at all my Dallas Cowboys, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of cowboy fans obviously crime teers. These last

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Speaker 2: couple of days, after what happened with Michael Parsons on

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Speaker 3: Would like to point out that Jerry Jones, after one

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Speaker 3: question the first question, spoke for eleven minutes straight coincidence. Michaeh.

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Speaker 3: Parsons also wears number eleven. I don't know something to

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Speaker 3: think about little numerology here, dream of conscious.

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Speaker 2: I will not say this. Some said it was just

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Speaker 2: the ramblings of an old man. I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's very disrespectful to say of Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 2: But was coaching, he did have a lot of explaining

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Speaker 2: to do. Considering how this entire situation ended up playing out,

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Speaker 2: the fact that Michael Parson is now a Green Bay Packer,

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Speaker 2: seemingly out of nowhere. I mean, it went from how

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have negotiations, Yeah, it was tough. It's just

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Speaker 2: like Dak and playing hardball. We'll talk to the agent

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Speaker 2: and we'll get something resolved, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: there's a report from Adam Schefter saying that, oh, now

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Speaker 2: there's negotiations between the Cowboys and a couple of other

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Speaker 2: teams about actually making a deal. In about thirty five minutes,

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Speaker 2: maybe after that, the bombshell that he is now officially

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Speaker 2: a Green Bay Packer, two first round picks and Kenny

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Speaker 2: Clark X of UCLA now our three time Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: I don't want to break my arm patting myself on

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Speaker 3: the back. And this show for the way we talked

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Speaker 3: about this situation last week, But I think we made

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Speaker 3: it pretty clear that something was different here. This wasn't

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Speaker 3: just Jerry being Jerry. This was not Dak Prescott, this

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Speaker 3: was not Cedee Lamb just waiting for the eleventh hour

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Speaker 3: to get a deal done. Do you know where the

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Speaker 3: tagline this time It's personal comes from?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I've heard it.

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Speaker 3: You want to take a guess because I look this up.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: According to chat GPT or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's you know, truthful and you know the irreliable.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it comes from Jaws. The revenge that would be

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Speaker 2: Jaws four. I didn't even know there was a Jaws four. Well,

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Speaker 2: I knew there was a Jaws too.

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Speaker 3: You know why it was personal because the Jaws were

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Speaker 3: going up. Jaws was going after members of the family.

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Speaker 3: Now I see, like, just not indiscriminately killing anybody, so

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Speaker 3: he was going after particular people. I think Roy Scheider's

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's redeeming quality. Then I like Michael Kane.

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Speaker 3: He's ninety two. Now he might be the only person

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Speaker 3: believe it got to this point, but I also can

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Speaker 3: At the same time. Is that cognitive dissidence when you

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Speaker 3: believe two things that are contrast.

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Speaker 2: Like that, Well, you would say it's all about ego

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Speaker 2: at this point in time, that's the issue. It's it's

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Speaker 2: not even necessarily about about money because listen to what

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Speaker 2: reports they're off by maybe what six and a half

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Speaker 2: to seven million dollars more is exactly what the Packers

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Speaker 2: gave him over what Dallas gave him. So I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying it's not nothing when it comes to the salary

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Speaker 2: cat but it's certainly manageable. You can restructure one contract

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Speaker 2: of one offensive lineman and gain back seven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I think it was just definitely the principle behind it.

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Speaker 3: I do think Hubert's played a role. There was an

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Speaker 3: ego element to this. There was meddling maybe from the

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Speaker 3: perspective of Jerry Jones and looking at what the agent.

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Speaker 2: Was up to.

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Speaker 3: He thought he had a deal like George Castanza did

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Speaker 3: with the squirrel, and things got squirrely in this negotiation process.

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Speaker 3: Like Jerry Jones, I think comes from a different place obviously,

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Speaker 3: where he thinks a handshake is as good as ink

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Speaker 2: He's a business man, Adams. He can't believe that.

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Speaker 3: I he seems to think before for him, Oil magn Cory.

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Speaker 2: To Jerry, come on, all right, whatever you say, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: you know, nothing is official until you put pin to

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Speaker 2: paper and you know how this situation works. Let's can

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Speaker 2: we say take a listen to Jerry Jones and his

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Speaker 2: son Stephen Jones talking about this deal. Mark, can we

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Speaker 2: go to to cut a level and talking about how

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Speaker 2: this trade now bolsters the Dallas Cowboys and helps their

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Speaker 3: We need to stop the run, we really do. We

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Speaker 3: need to get the ball back.

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Speaker 4: Kenny Clark was a big part of this, That was

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Speaker 4: a part of winning right now. And we feel like

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Speaker 4: when you look at you know, the frustration is we

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Speaker 4: hadn't been able to win the big game in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs and we think it is a direct connection to

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Speaker 4: not being able to stop the run. And we think

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Speaker 4: And we felt like because of our debt on the

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Speaker 4: edge as well as the ability to be able to

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Speaker 4: scheme pressure, that we could make up for Micah because

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Speaker 4: obviously he's elite at rushing the passer, that we could

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that the reason why you were losing

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Speaker 2: nine ers at home was because Michaeh Parsons wasn't a

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Speaker 2: pulling his weight. I didn't realize that was the problem.

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Speaker 3: The weak link all along, hiding and playing sight the

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Speaker 3: same guy who has the same amount of sacks per

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Speaker 3: this stuff. When it comes to pressure rate with Micah,

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Speaker 3: Parsons says he's elite, and he is. I will say this, though, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: I think there is something defensible here from the Jones

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Speaker 3: family in this case. As much as I want to say,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones is the grift that keeps on grifting, and

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Speaker 3: he is giving us a lot of content here. As

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Speaker 3: much as I want to say he doesn't care about

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Speaker 3: Super Bowls, he cares about controversy. He's like a rod

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Speaker 3: kissing himself in the mirror. But he does that when

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Speaker 3: he's watching himself on TV. With all these reports and

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Speaker 3: with all these pressers. I do think there's some logic

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Speaker 3: to this. Do I think it was still botched? Yes,

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Speaker 3: because of the timing of it, because they put themselves

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Speaker 3: they should have if they were going to move Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 3: They could have done it back when free agency opened originally,

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Speaker 3: when teams had all the money in the world.

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Speaker 2: And how preface. I think, I know what direction you're

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Speaker 2: going here. The price tag would not have been as

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Speaker 2: high on Micah had they done this four months ago

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Speaker 2: as opposed to now.

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Speaker 3: Not the first time people have complained about this with

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, get the deal done earlier. You know what

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Speaker 3: the guy is worth, or you know what his value

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Speaker 3: is to this team. Same with Cedee Lamb. Why are

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Speaker 3: you waiting so long and then you get taken for

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Speaker 3: a ride by their agent. But I do think when

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Speaker 3: you're talking about impact on wins, I have a problem

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Speaker 3: with paying a guy this much money for this particular

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys team because they won seven games last year.

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Speaker 3: Micah Parsons can get all the quarterback hurries and pressures

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Speaker 3: he wants, he can get his twelve sacks, they still

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Speaker 3: gave up twenty eight points per game the Dallas Cowboys defense.

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Speaker 3: They were still miserable on that end. If I can't

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Speaker 3: pay a guy two hundred million to fix that problem,

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Speaker 2: We see it or not do that in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: You're not wrong, but I do disagree in this case.

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Speaker 3: In this respect, Aaron Donald was playing his position at

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're always gonna need help. No one literally does

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Speaker 3: But he has a minuscule amount of influence compared to

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Speaker 3: This is about Dak Prescott. I don't think they're in

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Speaker 3: I think they're in a spot and maybe they've realized

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Speaker 2: So you're taking half measures now because what you're doing

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Speaker 2: two draft picks. Who who the hell knows what those

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, So what do you say? What are you selling

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Speaker 2: herschel Walker. First of all, you sucked when you had

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Speaker 2: That's not the case here. You trade him to a franchise,

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Speaker 2: So I know Dallas does have a decent track record

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Speaker 3: Trade, which is forty years ago now, and he should

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Speaker 3: Well, that is setting your fan base up with expectations

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Speaker 2: Happening again, those don't age well, there are history is

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Speaker 2: We mentioned that all these guys who garner all these

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: They made mistakes with those guys. You could say, well,

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Speaker 3: not all on him. He's good. He's not a top

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Speaker 3: a real good idea who Dak Prescott is Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 3: this move, it makes sense for them. I don't think

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Speaker 3: So why am I paying that guy that much money?

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Speaker 3: You've you've scouted well, you've drafted well, and look, I

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Speaker 2: Team do this. Teams do this all the time. There's

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Speaker 3: They're not better in the short term. They could be

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Speaker 3: if you spread that money around, like look at it

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Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, that's part of the equation as well,

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be great. It's a bad

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Speaker 3: Because they should have got more and done this earlier,

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Speaker 2: And if it was their plan A, if you thought

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Speaker 2: you would have done this well before training chemp started

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Speaker 2: based on the facts of how I'm viewing this thing,

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Speaker 2: That's how this worked out. It was all based on

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Speaker 3: I definitely think that's a big part of it. I

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Speaker 3: They have more issues than just fixing things with Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 3: to me, a guy that position is like an amplifier,

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Speaker 3: Like you better already have the stereo, and it can't

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Speaker 3: be sanyo because the amplifier guy is gonna make everything

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Speaker 3: work better and enhance it all, which is what's gonna

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Speaker 3: happen with the Green Bay Packers. But I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he can carry you at that position. Yeah, when

441
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Speaker 3: you're already missing so many guys across the board like

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Speaker 3: they are in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we're at an impass on this because

444
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 2: for me, there's a reason why after quarterback, left tackle,

445
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Speaker 2: pass rusher is the next important position that every single

446
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Speaker 2: team values the highest in the league. And you have

447
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Speaker 2: one of those guys that could be a game record.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of how bad the defense as a whole can be,

449
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Speaker 2: those guys can make an impact. Speaking of making an impact,

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Speaker 2: we have a huge weekend of college football that began

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, and some are calling this the best weekend

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Speaker 2: in the history of college football. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: coming up next. Fox Sports Saturday Kevin Figures Adam Alston

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Speaker 2: I didn't think we had that one in the system.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Figures Adam Osland with you here on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Shout out, pob Yes, anything better today.

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Speaker 2: Just back a plus. I think hit us up on

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Speaker 2: X at follow Out of Me is where you can

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Speaker 2: find Adam on X. You can find me at k

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Speaker 2: FIG one. It is week one of college football at them.

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Speaker 3: Anything better than that?

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Speaker 2: Very few things.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: When we first got together on this show, I don't

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Speaker 3: know a good ten twelve years ago, you said your

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Speaker 3: favorite sport football, college football specifically college football specifically. Has

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Speaker 3: anything changed.

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Speaker 2: Well about the sport itself? A lot for the sport?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not, okay, So as it's gotten a little bit

498
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Speaker 3: more of a controlled chaos with it being more uniform,

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Speaker 3: with more balanced schedules and super conferences, it hasn't taken

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Speaker 3: away from the charm of college football for you.

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Speaker 2: Uh slightly. I'm not a huge fan of the transfer portal,

502
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Speaker 2: at least the way that it's currently constituted, where guys

503
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Speaker 2: can literally up and leave and go to five different

504
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Speaker 2: schools in three and three years or whatever it is,

505
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Speaker 2: or even one year. I wish that was kind of

506
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Speaker 2: him did in a little bit. But I also understand

507
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Speaker 2: the argument of, well, if coaches can up and leave

508
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Speaker 2: whenever they want white camp players, but I do think

509
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Speaker 2: there has to be regulation in here somehow. So the

510
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Speaker 2: idea that you can't really determine or know who's playing

511
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Speaker 2: for what team on a weekend, week out basis because

512
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Speaker 2: guys are transferring in left and right. That makes it

513
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Speaker 2: really really difficult to track. So that's the one aspect

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Speaker 2: of the new era of college football that I'm not

515
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Speaker 2: the biggest fan of. But the nil aspect of it

516
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Speaker 2: I'm all for.

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Speaker 3: So are you back in the Clemson then? Because they're

518
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Speaker 3: anti all this stuff, all these changes.

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Speaker 2: Kind of you know, there's there's something to be said

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Speaker 2: for harkening back. And I saw an interview with Dabo

521
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Speaker 2: Sweeney earlier this week where you know, he's lauding, and

522
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Speaker 2: you could you can say that he's just you know,

523
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Speaker 2: making this up and just trying to make his program

524
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Speaker 2: sound good, but I do think he's genuine when he says,

525
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Speaker 2: like it's important that we bring in guys and cultivate

526
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Speaker 2: our own talent, that our graduation rates are high, that

527
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Speaker 2: we prioritize, yes, winning football games, but also making sure

528
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Speaker 2: that a lot of these guys who are not going

529
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Speaker 2: to turn pro have an actual future outside of football,

530
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Speaker 2: and that we're there, they're well taken care of. I

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Speaker 2: do think he's genuine and saying that. And as college

532
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Speaker 2: football has turned into more of a business, into a

533
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Speaker 2: quasi NFL, I do think it's refreshing. And look, he

534
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Speaker 2: took his lumps a little bit and now, granted the

535
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Speaker 2: struggles of Clemson quot unquote, they're still winning, winning ten

536
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Speaker 2: games and going to a SEC championship games, going to

537
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Speaker 2: the playoff last.

538
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Speaker 3: Year world Smalls Violin.

539
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they were there, but people were saying, like, oh,

540
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Speaker 2: Doabbo's gonna fall off and he can't win in this

541
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Speaker 2: new environment. And it's like, all right, well, yeah, he

542
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Speaker 2: had won a national championship in a little bit, but

543
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Speaker 2: he's still there. He hadn't fallen off, fallen off of

544
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Speaker 2: a cliff.

545
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Speaker 3: They made the playoff.

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so now a lot of people believe that

547
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Speaker 2: Clemson is kind of right up there with a lot

548
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Speaker 2: of the other teams. The other blue bloods who have

549
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Speaker 2: embraced the transfer portal, and he's had I believe he's

550
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Speaker 2: had a total of five transfers ever since the portal

551
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Speaker 2: era has begun. And now this is his highest ranking

552
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Speaker 2: and his best chance to act. They compete for a

553
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Speaker 2: national championship with a roster full of guys that he

554
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Speaker 2: cultivated and brought up through his program.

555
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Speaker 3: In the same way. That's admirable. I like the fact

556
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Speaker 3: that arch Manning didn't transfer out, even knowing it would

557
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Speaker 3: take this long. I respect it for somebody this talented

558
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Speaker 3: to really get their shot. He's played some, of course,

559
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Speaker 3: but now biggest game of his life happening in nine

560
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Speaker 3: and a half hours from now, and he waited his turn.

561
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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't get that a lot nowadays. Everybody wants

563
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Speaker 2: to play immediately.

564
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Speaker 3: It's impulsiveness.

565
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Speaker 2: It is so. And look, if Arch who's one of

566
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Speaker 2: the you know, I don't know if I'd say he's

567
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Speaker 2: one of the great talents we've seen in a long time.

568
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Speaker 2: I do think he's pumped up a little bit by

569
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Speaker 2: his last name.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out.

571
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Speaker 2: Uh, well, we'll see. And look, he's obviously talented. He

572
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 2: showed that in a couple of games last year. I'm

573
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Speaker 2: not saying that he's some total hack, but I also

574
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Speaker 2: don't think that, you know, he's the second coming of

575
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Speaker 2: Cam Newton or Andrew Lucker or anything the way that

576
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Speaker 2: some people are talking him up.

577
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Speaker 3: He took out Louisiana, Monroe and Mississippi State, and really

578
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Speaker 3: he's had one good under pressure throw. It was a

579
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Speaker 3: touchdown right before they half ended against Mississippi State. Outside that,

580
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at all his tape and it's like these

581
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 3: guys are running wide open and that's not happening against

582
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Speaker 3: Ohio State like this.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and a big criticism of his for people

584
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Speaker 2: who have followed him for a long period of time

585
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: is every time he has stepped up in competition, he struggled.

586
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: So now, granted to a certain degree that happens, there's

587
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: an adjustment period. There's a certain number of unicorns who

588
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: just come out and just dominated every level from day one,

589
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: h and he's but he certainly has not been that.

590
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Speaker 3: You think he's gonna be more Eli or more Peyton Peyton,

591
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: the more cerebral, methodical, most prepared quarterback ever, or fly

592
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 3: by the seat of his pants like Eli Manning, which

593
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 3: sometimes works in big moments, as it did for him

594
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: in two Super Bowls, like or is it gonna be Cooper?

595
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be a dad?

596
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize this doing more research on Cooper Manning.

597
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: He was a stud in high school. He and Peyton

598
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: Manning dominated together when he was a senior. In Peyton

599
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: Manning was a sophomore and he was going on to

600
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: look like the next Ed McCaffery or something like that.

601
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Speaker 3: In the NFL. He had a strange, a very rare

602
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: condition where he got nerve damage in his fingers in

603
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: his toes at a very young age. He couldn't hold

604
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: on to the football anymore, but he was this isn't

605
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Speaker 3: somebody that was one of these things? Is not like

606
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Speaker 3: the others. You got Eli, you got Peyton.

607
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Speaker 5: He know.

608
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: It's the meme of the three different dragons and two

609
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: of them look fierce and menacing, and one looks like, yeah,

610
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: that's not who Cooper was. And I love if you

611
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: listen to him on Dan Patrick's show show he might

612
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: be more media savvy, shockingly than his two brothers. Like

613
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: he's so self deprecating, he's funny, he's humorous, and I

614
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: wonder if the fact that he had to go through

615
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: what he did, watching his brothers go on to have

616
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: all this success and fading into the background, did he

617
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 3: tell arch like, hey man, wait your turn. It's all right.

618
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: You can be patient, trust me. I was patient. Never

619
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Speaker 3: got my shot because of injury. You'll get yours.

620
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Maybe, But I mean, considering the influence of his grandfather,

621
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: who was a I think I can call Archie a

622
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: great NFL quarterback despite the fact that his team had

623
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: no success.

624
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's who arch is because he can run.

625
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's yet more so than Peyton or Eli

626
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: for sure. So and obviously the influence of his uncle

627
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: has certainly helped with that too. So you have the

628
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: influence of all of those guys who you knew, and

629
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: you mentioned Cooper's physical setback. All those guys could play,

630
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: So I have no Obviously you can't take any issue

631
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: with his pedigree. Is just looking at him play. From

632
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: the people who evaluate these sorts of things, he might

633
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: be a little bit overhyped. Doesn't mean I'm not looking

634
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: forward to this game against Ohio State coming up, But

635
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a phenomenal matchup between

636
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: two really good young quarterbacks. Julian Saye, a freshman that

637
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people aren't talking about. And there are

638
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: some people and I do want to ask Dan Wilkin

639
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: about this next hour when he comes on. There are

640
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: people who believe that Julian Sane is actually a better

641
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: quarterback than Manning is. But because his last name is

642
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: at Manning, he's kind of getting overshadowed here.

643
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: I worry about Texas. Everywhere else really ars. Manning's going

644
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 3: into a situation where the offensive line has a lot

645
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: of turnover, a defensive deprievers. Defense is good, but it's

646
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: not like he's just joining a team and everybody else

647
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: is still there from last season on the offensive side

648
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: and he can just take over.

649
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to probably be a little bit conservative offensively,

650
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: and I think they can afford to be because they're

651
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: going to be so good on defense and Ohio State

652
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: as talented as they are, And I question this. We

653
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: had no Ego on with us on this show a

654
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and he was touting about how

655
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: talent Ohio State is and they just reload and it's true,

656
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: but that's a lot of an experience on that side

657
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: of the ball. There's a lot of five stars who

658
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: have not played on a big stage quite yet. Doesn't

659
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: mean they win, doesn't mean they won't make the playoff,

660
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're not great. But I can't sit here

661
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: necessarily loud Ohio State and say that they're gonna come

662
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: in and dominate arch Manning in the Texas offense when

663
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: I just don't know. There's question marks. A lot of

664
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: teams are talented. USC is talented every year, they still

665
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: get run over at half the time by all these

666
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: big ten teams.

667
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: USC has I say the bar for themselves by being

668
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: so bad now for so long compared to where their

669
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: standard was forever.

670
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I will say just the weekend in general,

671
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the first time in a long time,

672
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: I believe, the first time ever we've had three top

673
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: ten matchups in one weekend. Yeah, Texas Ohio State is

674
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: one in three, number nine LSU versus Clemson, Tiger on

675
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Tiger Death Valley versus Death Valley, and the number six

676
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: Notre Dame versus Miami, the Old Catholics versus Convicts. It's

677
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: pretty amazing to have these sorts of matchups. And I

678
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: know a lot of times these matches are set up

679
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: years in advance. You know, it's hard to predict who's

680
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: gonna be a great win. But I do think one

681
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: thing that the playoff, and specifically the new rule that

682
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: the Playoff instituted a couple of weeks ago, where they're

683
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: gonna give you credit for scheduling boldly against the power

684
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: opponent even if you lose, because before, the reason why

685
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: the SEC didn't want to go to non conference games

686
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: and they stuck with eight and they used to schedule

687
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: creampuffs is because wins is all that matter. So we

688
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: give ourselves an extra win. We have one fewer conference loss.

689
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: That's just going to bump us up on the standings.

690
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: Well, and everybody back then when it was the BCS,

691
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: it was like you have to go undefeated, right, minimum

692
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: one loss unless you're LSU. You could have two or

693
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: three and somehow end up winning the whole damn thing.

694
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, basically you baked in an additional victory

695
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: on your schedule. Well, now they're going to hold it

696
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: against you if you schedule an FCS opponent as opposed

697
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: to a Power four opponent, which is how it should

698
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: have been the entire time, And they're not going to

699
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: necessarily ding you if you lose to a Power four opponent,

700
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: which should have been the case the entire time. Why

701
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they decided to make that change,

702
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't really know. Now you can argue at them too,

703
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: the fact that you're having a lot of so teams

704
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: are going to be able to schedule a little bit

705
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: more boldly in the non conference. But do the games

706
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: actually mean that much now, because if you do have

707
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: a loss or two in a twelve and soon to

708
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: be sixteeneen playoff, well, it kind of diminishes the regular

709
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: season a little bit, and it might I do agree

710
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: with that notion. But with that being said, I do

711
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: want to see good on good and I love cross

712
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: conference matchups between two great teams, and teams were not

713
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: willing to schedule boldly back in the day because they

714
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: just didn't have to, especially if you were in the SEC. Well, now,

715
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you get brownie points for doing,

716
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: get an expanded playoff, and it'll only help you.

717
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Well.

718
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: Back in the day, when let's say Oregon with Legarrett

719
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: Punch or Blunt would lose to Boise State to start

720
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: off the season, it felt crippling, correct like it was

721
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: a death blow. It's over. We can't make it. In

722
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: Now with twelve teams, you have this long runway, and

723
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: I think it's better from a competition standpoint because you

724
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: can see teams progress and get better as the season

725
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: goes on. And especially coming into this season, with how

726
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: many young quarterbacks we have are unproving quarterbacks, I should

727
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: say on great ball clubs that are highly ranked, give

728
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: them a chance to shake things out and see who's

729
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: the best. I actually do like this format better just

730
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: because it's not the end of the world if you

731
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: lose at the beginning of the season, and that's only

732
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: gonna make teams schedule more boldly or bravely. Fortune favors

733
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: the bold It's better overall, I think for college football,

734
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: SAT's in't that positive?

735
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it doesn't put all the pressure on college

736
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: kids to have to go undefeated for an entire season.

737
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Teams evolve, especially in college with no preseason, which is

738
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: something that a lot of people don't even talk about

739
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: a lot of times. And if you're playing one of

740
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: these big opening weekend games Texas, Ohio State, LSU, Clemson,

741
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: something like that, you know, five six years ago you

742
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: lose a game like that, to your point, it could

743
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: be over for you at that point, which is just

744
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: in fair to a team full of talk about Ohio

745
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: State turning over sixty percent or whatever it is of

746
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: their roster. It's not fair to them. A month from now,

747
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: they can be clicking on all cylinders. It could be

748
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: playing extremely well. But because they lost the game in

749
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: August and now we're in November, you're gonna hope that

750
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: against them and not give them a chance to compete

751
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: for a championship. It just makes no sense whatsoever.

752
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: The crux of the issue is getting the best matchups

753
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: week to week that we can get in college football.

754
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: And I think this new playoff format, which twelve teams,

755
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: does incentivize teams to really test themselves out there. I

756
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: want to get a dark horse team from you that

757
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: could make the playoff this year because I got one. Oh,

758
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: And I don't know how you're gonna feel about this, Okay.

759
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: It involves your former radio partner, Matt Ruhle oh head coach.

760
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Rule friends with Anthony Gargano. Did a show

761
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: with Anthony a couple of years ago.

762
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: Head coach Nebraska.

763
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: He did this is before it took the this might

764
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: even before he even took the Panthers job.

765
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bree, where were you pay attention?

766
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: All right?

767
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: They already beat Cincy. It started off well.

768
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: It was a close game, probably closer than it should

769
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: have been.

770
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: But when I like to project out and predict with

771
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: things I know less about, like college football, I like

772
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: to look at schedules and where teams are gonna land

773
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten against them. They got Michigan at home,

774
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: they got USC at home. Uh, they got Dana Holgerson.

775
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 3: Now as there are oc is this Chip Kelly with

776
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: r in daylight? What Nebraska is doing over there? I

777
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: think they might have a little something. They might only

778
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: end up with two losses. Is that possible? Is that crazy?

779
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 8: Yeah?

780
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: The problem is you are in a very competitive Big

781
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Ten conference where you could have other three or other

782
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: teams that have one loss. I look, Nebraska is good

783
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: and they're on the come up, and I love Matt Ruhle,

784
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: and Rayola is obviously a really talented player. I think

785
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahomes comparisons are a little rich for me.

786
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: You know, Is that is that because maybe he's being

787
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: compared to the best quarterback ever arm talent?

788
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: But I get it. He does have a good arm,

789
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: he's a really good athlete. He does a solid job

790
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: of making things happen out of the pocket. But I

791
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: feel like that's kind of a little bit of an

792
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: unrealistic expectation to play on the money at this point.

793
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: Horse though, is it the worst prediction? Yeah, no, long shot.

794
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: It's my long shot. What do you got?

795
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: It's that it's not that long of a shot. You know,

796
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: I would have said Poise State, but based on what happened.

797
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: We didn't do this show a couple of long night. Yeah,

798
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: that was a little bit shocking. I found out why

799
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: they're field is blue because they are sad, right Moise State.

800
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: You know, we just talked about how your seasons done

801
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: over if you lose the first game.

802
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: But if you lose like that, well, the problem is

803
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: if you're a group of five or group of six,

804
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: if you want to share a PAC twelve and they're

805
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: still you can't afford to have slip ups like that. Now,

806
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: the only thing is if they run the table after

807
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: this past weekend, that a victory over Notre Dame is

808
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: actually gonna work in your favor. They could possibly still

809
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 2: get in as a group of five teams.

810
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'll get credit for being in last season two. Maybe.

811
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: I know I brought Biowa State last week. I'm still

812
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: saying them out of the Big twelve. I think they're

813
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: the one for me that ends up making the playoff.

814
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: They're a team that I'm really bullish on this year.

815
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: I'm going Utah in the Big twelve too. That's because

816
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: of you know, Pac twelve bias. We still got West

817
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 3: Coast bias over here on this side.

818
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: Kevin all right, it's Kevin Figures. Adam Alston here on

819
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Coming up next. Oh love is in

820
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: the air at him?

821
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 3: Is it?

822
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: Oh?

823
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's hate also sometimes, so.

824
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: We got to talk about it. Coming up next on

825
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin Figures at Adam Alslin on FSR.

826
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Welcome back in f and A on FSR. I'm out

827
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,200
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828
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,680
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829
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,120
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830
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831
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,600
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834
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: Adam, Uh, love is in the air. As we found

835
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: out earlier this week, it has finally happened. As you

836
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: roll your eyes at me, what's wrong with you? Why

837
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: is your heart so black?

838
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: I'm not the granch over here.

839
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: Source seems like it.

840
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: Because of the cigarettes. Okay, you want to know specifically, No,

841
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: I've never had.

842
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: It's no love for Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift getting

843
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: ready to tie the Notts sometime soon. Good for them

844
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: and what will be the next wedding of the century

845
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: at some point.

846
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: Good for them.

847
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: Sure, you know.

848
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: Larry David was asked about this, of course on some

849
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: interview and he was just like, you know what I

850
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: think about I don't care about these people, and he

851
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: had to hold himself back from swearing.

852
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: So it got me to thinking about certain sports marriages

853
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: or sports engagements. Guys get traded, coach goes through a

854
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: certain spot and not, by the way, I am not

855
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: wishing ill whatsoever on Travis and Taylor. I hope everything

856
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: goes great and these kids and they stay together forever.

857
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: But a lot of times things look phenomenal. Look how

858
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: great they've looked these last couple of years, and people

859
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: want to hate on them. I got nothing against the

860
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: two of them other than the fact that Travis Place

861
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: for the Kansas City Chiefs, and I hate their guts.

862
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: Best witches all to to to the two of them.

863
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: But a lot of times you see matches that seemingly

864
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: are made in heaven and they don't necessarily work out.

865
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: So it got me to thinking, what are some of

866
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: the sports matches that were made in heaven at the

867
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: time from the very beginning ended up in hell?

868
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 9: All right?

869
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got one for it.

870
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: What do you got?

871
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if it ended up in hell, But

872
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: compared to my lofty expectations, I thought this was gonna

873
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: work perfectly. Gary Payton getting traded to the Milwaukee Bucks

874
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: and pairing up with Sam Cassell'll.

875
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: Forget about that. I did not think that's where you

876
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: were going with this. By the way, I know you

877
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: played like thirty games or something there like that was

878
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: twenty eight, all right, I don't even remember that.

879
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: Ray Allen goes to Seattle, right, Desmond Mason also went

880
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: to the Milwaukee Bucks. But I thought, here we go,

881
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: two headed monster in the backcourt. How are you going

882
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: to stop these two guys, two lethal point guards. And

883
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: while they did make the playoffs, and they had to

884
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: win eight of their last nine games just to get in,

885
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: they lost in the first round to the eventual Eastern

886
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: Conference Finals champs, the New Jersey Nets, who were going

887
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: back to the finals to lose again to the San

888
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs. But that Bucks team because GP was going

889
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: back with George Carl they were reuniting. He was in

890
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: Milwaukee at that time. But it just wasn't that notable.

891
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, it's thirty games, even though he was

892
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: good twenty and seven at the age of thirty four.

893
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: The next year he ends up going to the Lakers.

894
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: He becomes an unrestricted free agent. So it was just

895
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: very short lived. In fact, maybe the most notable thing

896
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: that happened with GP and Sam Cassell was they were

897
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: charged with assaulting a male exotic dancer and his stripper

898
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: fiance during her confrontation outside of downtown Toronto at a

899
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: strip club back in two thousand and three. They were

900
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: cleared four years later. The judge cited inconsistencies with the

901
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: alleged victim's story. I don't know if they used if

902
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: the glove doesn't fit. You must to quit defense for

903
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: h Gary Payton. But yeah, it just didn't amount to much.

904
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: I was disappointed.

905
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: You know what, if you were to told me that,

906
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: you know what, Gary Payton and Sam Cassell were arrested

907
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: for assaulting somebody outside of a club, I'd be like, yeah,

908
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: I could see that that would not surprise you, wouldn't been.

909
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick of the NBA too, a little bit

910
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: more recent and since your mission the new Jersey Nets,

911
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about the Brooklyn Nets, and I'm gonna

912
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: talk about the three headed monster that played a total

913
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: of sixteen games together, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant and James Harden,

914
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: a combination of all sorts of issues. Kyrie didn't get

915
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: vaccinated so couldn't play in home games. Harden were hurt,

916
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: Durant was hurt, Kyrie had times, was hurt. Steve Nash

917
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: lost control of the locker room, and Kevin Durant actually

918
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: was a guest on Steve Nash and Lebron James podcast

919
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: and he was like, oh man, we were cool, we

920
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: were ready to go. It was some other knuckleheads that

921
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: messed everything up. Katie didn't say who it was who

922
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: he was talking about. Could have been Kyrie, could have

923
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: been hard, He could have been somebody else on the team.

924
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure he was like, we

925
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: were good, Steve, you got a raw deal. You weren't

926
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: able to coach, You had to deal with all the

927
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: other bs with the team.

928
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan really his stored the things up for us.

929
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: I feel like it probably wasn't DeAndre Jordan, but people

930
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: thought this was the next big three, three headed monster

931
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: gonna win a championship. Didn't even sniff it didn't come

932
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: close match Maiden Hill, James Harden, Kevin Durant and Kyrie

933
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: Irving in Brooklyn, and most of you listening had probably

934
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: already forgotten that it even happened to be fair.

935
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: If Kd's feet were just a little bit smaller, if

936
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: you didn't have those clown shoes on against the Milwaukee

937
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: Bucks in that game seven, and his foot wasn't over

938
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: the line, maybe they at least get to the conference finals.

939
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know what really upset me about that team.

940
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 3: They were stacked. They were good when they actually.

941
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: Together sixteen games.

942
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: Sixteen games. I swear the Clippers played them healthy three

943
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: times I swear the Clippers were the only team my

944
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: Clippers to catch them healthy every damn time, and they

945
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: look great against the Clippers. That's all I want to say.

946
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: Honorable mention. I'll go with Tom Herman to Texas because

947
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: that was supposed to be a slam dunk higher for

948
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: the Longhorns, and after a couple of seven win seasons,

949
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: he was unceremoniously exed, and and there we go, all

950
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Steve's Sarkisian is in there and going

951
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: to playoff games and potentially knocking on the door of

952
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: winning a championship for you two.

953
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: You We'll see Carlos Beltron going to the Giants in

954
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: twenty eleven. We thought they were gonna go back to

955
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: the World Series and win it.

956
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: Quarterback headlines in the NFL Coming up next on FSR.

957
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Really Radio.

958
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: That's right, second hour Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin Figures.

959
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: Adam Alson at follow Adam is where you can find

960
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: him on X. You can find me on X at

961
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: k fig one. Coming up in the very next segment

962
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: in about fifteen minutes or so. Dan Walkin, formerly of

963
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: USA Today now with Yahoo Sports yeah, covering college football,

964
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: so we'll talk to him and so what's on his mind?

965
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: As we have Week one of college football.

966
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: We also got stranger than fiction at the end of

967
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: the hour because things are happening to me personally that

968
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: are freaking me out. Oh really, yeah, I'm personalizing this story.

969
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: There's some stranger than fiction happening in my life.

970
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: Athletes foot or something.

971
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: Okay, it's not that I used tough accent, but you

972
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: can use for that, you know, all right, boom so.

973
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: Bart So, before we get to quarterback headlines, I did

974
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: see this, and again you guys can hit us up

975
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: on x at kfig one and at follow Adam ay

976
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: Dan Tompkins checks in says that Dallas stands are in shambles,

977
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: that Luca is in Los Angeles and Michah Parsons is

978
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: in Green Bay within months of each other. And this

979
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: reminds me of a photo that Adam Schefter, which was

980
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: this is unnecessary. He didn't have to do this, Yeah,

981
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter. Probably about yeah, Brie, did you see this?

982
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 2: Probably about thirty minutes or so after the trade of Michaeh.

983
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Parsons to the Green Bay Packers, he tweets out a

984
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: photo of Luka Doncik standing next to Michah Parsons, and

985
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: they swapped each other the jerseys, so they were holding

986
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: each other's jersey. So the Dallas Mavericks jersey for Luka

987
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: Doncik was being held by Michael Parsons and Luca was

988
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: holding Parses as Dallas Cowboy jersey, and Schefter says within

989
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: months of each other, Dallas loses two stars. I would

990
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: like to say, probably not necessary, Schefter, that that's the

991
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: wound is way too fresh. Brother.

992
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: It's not nearly as bad as the Luca trade, Nor

993
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: would it be nearly as good as the herschel Walker

994
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: trade for the Dallas maver or for the Dallas Cowboys.

995
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: In this case, I think I can feel fairly confident

996
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: in saying that this is not gonna let the same

997
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: return as herschel Walker did.

998
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: I did see this very mean spirited tweet from somebody

999
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: who said heartbreaking, and it was a black and white

1000
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: photo of Jerry Jones.

1001
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're going.

1002
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 7: This is bad.

1003
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: Cowboys owner and GM Jerry Jones found alive in his

1004
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: home at eighty two is so unnecessary, disgusting, disgusting, but

1005
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: Cowboys fans are upset right now, and that's what they're

1006
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: resorting to.

1007
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be upset too. You know, apparently Adam is

1008
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: not Sean No ship him out. Know Kobe Bryant said

1009
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 2: about Andrew bidhim back in the day, ship his ass

1010
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: out he did. Yeah, that's what Adam said about Michael Parsons.

1011
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: Don't need them. I don't think the Cowboys do. I

1012
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: think the Packers do. I think it's gonna work out

1013
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: nicely because the Packers have a real quarterback. Speaking of

1014
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: one of our favorite segments, one of the headlines on

1015
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: the announcement to starting quarterback.

1016
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: Pel b all over this show, Yes, putting his stamp

1017
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: back on the Fox Sports Radio network.

1018
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: All right, Kevin, you got a great idea. This involves

1019
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: ranking quarterbacks by who has the most pressure on them

1020
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: heading into this season.

1021
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1022
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: You know a lot of quarterbacks in different places a

1023
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: lot of pressure. You have some quarterbacks who have playoff

1024
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: games or playoff monkeys to get off their back. You

1025
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: have somewhere just fighting for play for starting positions, fighting

1026
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: to remain a starter in the league. So it got

1027
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: me to thinking, like, which quarterbacks in the NFL have

1028
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: the most to prove going into this season, and I

1029
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: think it's a pretty long list, to be honest with.

1030
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 3: I could start with this guy. We just mentioned him.

1031
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: The pressure cooker is under Jordan Love now because the

1032
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: rest of the team's ready to go. There's no excuses.

1033
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago they made it to the

1034
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: second round, I think, lost to the San Francisco forty

1035
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: nine Ers. This iteration of the Green Bay Packers puts

1036
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: him in a position where it's like, Okay, what do

1037
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: you got. Don't tell us you're the weakest link holding

1038
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: us back. You better not be that guy. You better

1039
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: not be Dak Prescott. We need you to elevate this

1040
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: team that's loaded. We're ready to win now. The Packers

1041
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: to be opened up a three year window at least.

1042
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1043
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: The thing that that hurts Jordan Love and someone will

1044
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: call it excuses, someone will call it reasons. But their

1045
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: receiver position, for as deep in as talent said that

1046
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: as it is, they just cannot keep these guys on

1047
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: the field. True, every single one of their impact players

1048
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: finds a way to miss five, six, seven games during

1049
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: the season, and it's just really hard to find any

1050
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: sort of rhythm in your passing game when you're rotating

1051
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: guys in and out and you have guys dropping passes

1052
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: left and right too. So Jordan Love has not necessarily

1053
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: gotten a lot of help from his skilled position players,

1054
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 2: his playmakers on the field.

1055
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: He's had a built in excuse because of that. But

1056
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: he's also he's performed admirably. I think he's still in

1057
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: that place where he's the new shiny toy and we're

1058
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: projecting him out to be an elite quarterback. He can

1059
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: he can throw it all over the field. He has

1060
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: all the talent in the world. Now he just has

1061
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 3: to prove it on the biggest stage with a team

1062
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: around him where he has that support system where you

1063
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: can say, yeah, they're a real contender.

1064
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been holding out hope for the last three

1065
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: seasons that Green Bank can kind of make that next leap,

1066
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, they just have not been able

1067
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: to do it. Now, they took their defense to your point,

1068
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: which was good last year in one of the tops

1069
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: in the league top five and turnovers, turnovers forced, and

1070
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: you added Micah Parsons one of the biggest game wrecords

1071
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: in the entire league. So that's only gonna help.

1072
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: And I guess they were the fifth worst team when

1073
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: it came to getting pressure on the quarterback without blitzing.

1074
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: Correct Now they can just have four guys out there

1075
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: and they can wreak havoc and do damage. So, even

1076
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 3: though there I guess a little bit under talented when

1077
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: it comes to the back end and the corners, that's

1078
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: one of their weakest, their defensive ends are gonna make

1079
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: life easier on their defensive backs.

1080
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Now, I like Jeff Hafley as defensive coordinator, cooking things

1081
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: up back there. He'll make that defense roar this year

1082
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: for sure.

1083
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: Give me a guy who's in the pressure cooker.

1084
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: How about Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, he's the one that

1085
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: needs to prove that he still has it, that he

1086
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: can still play. First of all, the fact that he

1087
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: sat out the entire offseason, nobody knew if he was

1088
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 2: going to be retired, if he was still going to return.

1089
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: Ends up signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers a roster that

1090
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: has all the talent in the world. You trade for Metcalf.

1091
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: You have talent at receiver. Obviously defensively, you have a

1092
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: lot of talent that's aging out to a certain degree.

1093
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: But I still think they're at an elite level. You

1094
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: just need competent play at the quarterback position. Aaron Rodgers,

1095
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: he needs to be seventy percent of what he was

1096
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: at Green Bay. He doesn't need to be a superstar

1097
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: or anything. The problem is we didn't necessarily see that

1098
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: production when he was in New York. Grantedy was hurt,

1099
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: was in and out and had a lot of things

1100
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: working against him, including himself at times. Oh you know sometimes,

1101
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say sometimes. The majority of the time,

1102
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is his our worst enemy. Yeah, usually starts

1103
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: with his mouth.

1104
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: I think this is a great call. I didn't have

1105
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: it on my list. He would have been an honorable

1106
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: mention because he's gotten to a point where he's become

1107
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: such a distraction with off the field comments and stuff.

1108
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 3: What do you do, whether you agree or disagree, He's

1109
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: become a little bit controversial and it's kind of distracted

1110
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: people from just how good he wash. You can disagree

1111
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: with that, but yeah, and if you go out poorly,

1112
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: even though he won a super Bowl, even though he

1113
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: was one of the best quarterbacks of his era, one

1114
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: of the best quarterbacks of all time, if the last

1115
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: five or six years of your career. You're being remembered

1116
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: for everything else that can stick with you, that can

1117
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: harness your legacy. He can, So I agree with you.

1118
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: I do think this could be a big season.

1119
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: So now look, I don't think it gonna tark. It

1120
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: won't tarnish his legacy from my standpoint.

1121
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: Well you're smart though, Well fine, you're reasonable.

1122
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, the more and more you become to a

1123
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: certain degree a little bit of a caricature, Yes, that's

1124
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the lasting impression. We're way removed. I

1125
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: mean that Super Bowl was what twenty eleven, it was

1126
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: a long time ago.

1127
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, aj Hawk was not on the Pat McAfee show

1128
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: interviewing Eric. No, he wasn't Aaron Rodgers or We're a.

1129
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: Long ways away from that. And now look, I think

1130
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: he can do it. I think if they just keet

1131
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: competent play out of the quarterback position. No, granted, they

1132
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: are in a definitely terrible or excuse me, definitely difficult

1133
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: division in the AFC North save for the Cleveland Browns.

1134
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be really hard to get to ten wins.

1135
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: But I mean, Mike Tomins gone how long without having

1136
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: a losing season, and these last couple of years are

1137
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: talking about not having the best quarterback play with this

1138
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: defense in place, improving the offense with a guy like

1139
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf in there. I really think that the Pittsburgh

1140
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Steelers can really make noise this year. But if if

1141
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers can play consistently and just play well, he

1142
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be phenomenal, he just needs to be solid.

1143
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a guy who's under the most pressure

1144
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: because of me. That would be my quarterback if he

1145
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: wants to be Bryce Young of the Carolina Panthers, because

1146
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: he has to beat the Doug Flutie allegations that he's

1147
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: taller than him and he's better than him. I put

1148
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: out this tweet in the first half of his first

1149
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 3: NFL game September tenth of twenty twenty three, saying, with

1150
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 3: a gift of Tobias Funeq, I think that was David

1151
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Cross's character from arrest development crying in the bathtub, saying

1152
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: this was game one quote, Panthers season is already over

1153
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: and Bryce Young is.

1154
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: Shorter than Doug flute looking at Addam the prophet, their

1155
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: season was over Game one. In the first half of

1156
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: Game one is great press answer on your part.

1157
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: His career is on the line. I think because they

1158
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: brought in Tmac out of Arizona, they have Adam Feelen,

1159
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 3: they have enough. But they had Adam Thielen last season,

1160
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: and he didn't take advantage of him until the pressure

1161
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: was off. I don't give a you know what about

1162
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: the last eight games and how good he was with

1163
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: I think twelve touchdowns to three interceptions. Bryce Young. The

1164
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: pressure was completely off after he came back being benched

1165
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 3: first of all by the super ginger Andy Dalton, Like

1166
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: that's a bad look. They also went three and five

1167
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: in those eight games where he played so well. At

1168
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: the end of last season, well.

1169
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: So IQ was played. This is not the Carolina Panthers

1170
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: from two thousand and three, Adam. The team around him

1171
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: is not necessarily great. You're right, he played better. I

1172
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: think he played well in spite of the talent he

1173
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: had around him. To give him credit for that, but.

1174
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: Some of that better transfer and carry over into this

1175
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 3: season and they better start fast in maybe the worst

1176
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: division in football. Bryce Young has pressure on him. This

1177
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: is a make or break at time.

1178
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not make or break because it's his essentially

1179
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: rookie season. But I'm going with JJ McCarthy, who has

1180
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 2: to prove his worth as a first year starter coming

1181
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: off of the injury last year. Sat down took all

1182
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: the mental reps, all that stuff that people like to say.

1183
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: But now he's actually on the field and you were

1184
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: handed the keys to a Ferrari. This Minnesota Viking team

1185
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 2: is excellent. They have talent up and down the board.

1186
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: You have Justin Jefferson and Addison once he gets back,

1187
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: and you have Aaron Jones and Hopkinson. You have an

1188
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: excellent defense. You have one of the best defensive coordinators

1189
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: in the entire league who's coaching his ass off despite

1190
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he's suing the league right now. So no,

1191
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it's unrealistic to expect the Vikings to win

1192
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: fourteen games again or whatever it was. But you just, again,

1193
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: similar to to Aaron Rodgers, you need competent quarterback play.

1194
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy does not need to be Patrick Mahomes and

1195
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: come in from game one and light up the Chargers

1196
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: like Patrick Mahomes did his rookie season when he was

1197
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: a first year starter. He just needs to make sure

1198
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: that he what's the old statement people say like, don't

1199
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: let go of the rope. Just come in and just

1200
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: keep things moving. Be a nice game manager, make plays.

1201
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: You have talent all around, just don't make mistakes. But

1202
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: there is a certain element of pressure around Jay McCarthy

1203
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: because of how well they played last season, because they

1204
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: let Sam Darnold go after he had an MVP ith

1205
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: season up until the last couple of games that he played.

1206
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: So I think there's a certain amount of pressure on

1207
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy as the signal caller for a team that

1208
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: does have a lot of talent and high expectations.

1209
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: You're the new guy. We were doing well last season,

1210
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: so it's going to stand out if we're failing now.

1211
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 3: Because the guy under center, Jared Goff, is also under pressure.

1212
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: He lost his offensive coordinator, Ben Johnson goes to the Bears.

1213
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: He's the head coach now dealing with Caleb Williams. And

1214
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: not only that, Jared Goff is coming off a miserable

1215
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: playoff loss where he had three interceptions. They were the

1216
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: number one seed in the NFC and it said they

1217
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: lost to a rookie quarterback and the Washington Commanders. I

1218
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: think there's question marks. I think we may find out

1219
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 3: for the first time really because he's had such good

1220
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: offensive minds around him. Going back to Sean McVay exactly

1221
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: how good Jared Goff is at this level. And I'm

1222
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: not trying to be a hater because he's been really

1223
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: good overall, but I do think he's been propped up

1224
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: by some pretty good offensive minds.

1225
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you need a little bit of help.

1226
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: He's getting me a lot, all right.

1227
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: Gonna take a little bit of a break. Coming back

1228
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: on the other side, we're gonna have Dan Wolkin rights

1229
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 2: for y'ahoo Sports covers college Football. Get more into what's

1230
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: happening around the world of college football here. In Week one,

1231
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: it's Kevin Figures Adam Auslin with You on Fox Sports

1232
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: Saturday on FSR.

1233
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,719
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1236
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,120
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1237
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: Back in on Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin Figures and Adam

1238
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: Austin with You. Hit us up on the socials at

1239
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,319
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1240
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: Adam a is where you can find Adam. Before we

1241
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: get to Dan Wolkin from Yahoo Sports. Eloy from Compton

1242
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: checks in talk about our last segment quarterbacks that have

1243
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: the most pressure on them to win this season. Eloy says,

1244
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: come on, keV, you gotta go with your boy just

1245
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: He says Justine Herbert. I don't think that's necessary to

1246
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: call Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert. He said, you picked some

1247
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: Farris memberg division no excuses. Yes, I did pick this

1248
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: in the Los Angeles Chargers.

1249
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: Excuse me, old habits.

1250
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 8: No.

1251
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson says they should still be in San Diego,

1252
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: but that's his opinion. I did put the Chargers to

1253
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: win the AFC West this year. I'm not wavering off

1254
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: of that, even after losing Reshaun Slater for the season. Obviously,

1255
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is going to have to play well, but

1256
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: I still think that their team is going to be

1257
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: built mostly on the running game and on defense. Justin Herbert, yes,

1258
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: is going to have to play well for them, But

1259
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if the pressure is necessarily all on

1260
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 2: his shoulders now once they get to the postseason. Yes,

1261
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: it changes.

1262
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 3: You mentioned guys who have to prove it in the postseason.

1263
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: I think he might have different poster boy for that,

1264
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: right now that is very much different.

1265
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: But as far as just in the regular season, yes

1266
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: there's pressure on him, but I don't think it's as

1267
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: much pressure as some of the guys we mentioned last segment.

1268
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: But thank you for checking in, Eloy, We appreciate it.

1269
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,040
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1270
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,960
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Speaker 2: of your presets in the iHeart app so it will

1276
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: always pop up at the top of your screen. We

1277
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: are knee deep into week one of the college football season.

1278
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 2: Full slatey games coming up later this afternoon, and Adam,

1279
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: we have one of our favorite guests coming up right now.

1280
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: Let's get to one, Alan dragandad thank you.

1281
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 3: Donny Well join the show right now. Is an accomplished

1282
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 3: and opinionated college football rider who may have recently joined

1283
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: a new company, but that doesn't mean he's taking a haircut,

1284
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 3: and certainly not one as bad as that assistant from

1285
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 3: Rutgers Gott no way. This man is looking as sharp

1286
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: as his coverage is now with Yahoo Sports. Is Dan

1287
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 3: Walkin here on FNA show on Fox Sports Radio, Dan,

1288
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us here on FNA on FSR.

1289
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 11: Hey, thanks you guys, appreciate you having me on.

1290
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: Let's start with the biggest game of the weekend. Who

1291
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: wins between Texas, Ohio State and Dave Portnoy? Is this

1292
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: like a three way ladder match? How has the coverage

1293
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: been in your opinion? Which is kind of the side

1294
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 3: show going on with Dave and what's happening and what

1295
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: you believe is the real reason that he's not allowed

1296
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: on the field, Like it's just kind of a mess,

1297
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: but it is kind of college football asque.

1298
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 11: It's very college football. I don't believe anything that Ross

1299
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 11: Byork said. I think he first talked to my colleague

1300
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 11: Ross Ellinger and said that this was a Fox thing.

1301
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Speaker 11: I just don't think that makes any sense, to be

1302
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 11: honest with you. I think Ohio State doesn't want him there,

1303
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 11: which that's fine. Like they're not the only ones in

1304
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 11: the Big ten from what I've heard, who are uncomfortable

1305
00:57:52,920 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 11: with Portnoy's involvement in the show. Look understand why Fox

1306
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 11: did what they did. I understand the strategy, but I

1307
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 11: think the blame to me goes mostly to the Big

1308
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 11: Ten because obviously people were kind of unprepared at that

1309
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 11: level for the backlash that was going to come from

1310
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 11: inside some of these schools and looked it just looked

1311
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 11: this week like they were scrambling to kind of make

1312
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 11: up a story. That's what it looked like to me.

1313
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: As far as on the field, there's obviously the big

1314
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: hype train behind Arch Manning. People think he's the second

1315
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: coming of Peyton Manning or something like that based on

1316
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: the last name, I guess, but there's a school of

1317
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: thought out there that he might not even be the

1318
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: best quarterback on the field later today, and that might

1319
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: be Julian saying, what do you think as far as

1320
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback matchup and how this shakes out coming up

1321
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: later this afternoon.

1322
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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I mean what's interesting about this season in

1323
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 11: general is that some of these teams who we think

1324
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 11: are the most talented have quarterback question marks, and we're Kennethy,

1325
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 11: two of them in this game coming up, like are

1326
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 11: commanding to me, does not have really much of a

1327
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 11: track record to stand on. It's all hype and projection,

1328
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 11: which he might deserve, but he really has not done

1329
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 11: anything on the field to suggest that he is going

1330
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 11: to be as dominant or as terrific right away as

1331
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 11: a lot of people seem to think he is right now.

1332
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Speaker 11: I believe the Heisman favorite according to some of the sportsbooks,

1333
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 11: which to me is just kind of crazy, you know,

1334
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 11: as far as saying, I mean, we'll see it's going

1335
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 11: to be a very different offense. I'm less concerned about

1336
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 11: the quarterback for Ohio State than I am about the

1337
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 11: coordinator situation, because I thought last year they had an

1338
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 11: incredible coaching staff and their coordinators were amazing, and this

1339
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 11: year I think there's a potential that they have downgraded

1340
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 11: at those two staff fires.

1341
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Speaker 2: Dan Wilkin Yahoo Sports is joining us here on FNA.

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Speaker 2: On FSR, you talk about quarterbacks, and you know, Alabama

1343
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: during the next saving years at times was able to

1344
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: make deep runs and win championships with I don't want

1345
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: to disrespect anybody, but pedestrian play at quarterback because they

1346
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: were just so talented. You have Kaylen de Bor coming

1347
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: in in the second season. Ty Simpson thought of as

1348
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: kind of a game manager quarterback, not necessarily a superstar,

1349
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: and now that Grub is back with Kaitlyn de Boor,

1350
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: do you believe that Alabama has enough talent on the

1351
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: roster overall to overcome ty Simpson's deficiencies and still be

1352
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Speaker 2: a national championship contender.

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Speaker 11: Well, they're certainly going to be one of the most

1354
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 11: talented teams in college football, But what does that really

1355
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 11: mean in twenty twenty five when so much revolves around

1356
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 11: Kris for portal and who can develop chemistry the quickest

1357
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 11: and all the sort of moving parts that go into it.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 11: I do think it's a big help that Ryan Grubb

1360
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 11: is back with Kaitln de Boor. I think will calm

1361
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 11: the waters. And also it's probably good for them that

1362
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 11: they can kind of start from scratch at the quarterback

1363
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 11: position as opposed to what they had to do last year,

1364
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 11: which is put a well established veteran player in a

1365
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 11: little bit of a different system and maybe you know,

1366
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Speaker 11: they had to hold back some things because of their

1367
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 11: quarterbacks ability. And I just think we're going to get

1368
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 11: a much better, more full Kalin de Boor experience at

1369
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 11: this point. But you know, trying to project all this stuff,

1370
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Speaker 11: they got a tough schedule, They're gonna have to go

1371
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 11: win some key games. This is not the Nick saban

1372
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Speaker 11: Era Alabama. They're just by definition going to be more

1373
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 11: vulnerable in certain situations. And you know, it's going to

1374
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 11: be interesting to see not just how it plays out,

1375
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 11: but how Alabama fans react if things don't go the

1376
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 11: right way. A couple times.

1377
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Speaker 3: They're both in the SEC and they're both ranked right

1378
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: next to each other and the A people currently speaking Obama,

1379
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: they're right next to LSU. Who do you think ends

1380
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: up having the better season this year?

1381
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Speaker 2: Dan Well, I.

1382
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Speaker 11: Would say between those two, I would go with Alabama.

1383
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 11: I'm not really sold on LSU yet. They just did

1384
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 11: not look very good last year. And I know that

1385
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 11: they brought in a lot of transfers. They obviously have

1386
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 11: a great quarterback returning in Gary nus Meyer. But you know,

1387
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Speaker 11: I just haven't seen it yet from Brian Kelly in

1388
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 11: the SEC that they have the kind of plan, cohesions,

1389
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 11: coaching staff, whatever to win at the highest level. Now,

1390
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 11: you know, maybe they get there, and maybe it's been

1391
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 11: this three year building process to the point where now

1392
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 11: they can kind of go all in with this particular

1393
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 11: group of players. But I need to see it, and

1394
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Speaker 11: I haven't seen it his past couple of seasons.

1395
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: Dan If Clintson wins the ACC and makes a deep

1396
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: playoff run, maybe even wins the National Championship like some

1397
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: people think that they might. Do you think it would

1398
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: give any other major programs pause about trying to build

1399
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: contenders on the fly through the portal? Or do you

1400
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: think the two paces already out of the tube and

1401
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: we're never gonna go back. But I know that Dabo

1402
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: Sweeney has, you know, hung his hat on the fact

1403
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: that they've only had five transfers come in since the

1404
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: transfer portal opened, and you know, the graduation rate is

1405
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: the highest in the country for a team that's still

1406
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: as good as they are. If they end up making

1407
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Speaker 2: a run and winning this thing, do you think that

1408
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: other teams might try to look to go back to

1409
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: that model of trying to build from within and using

1410
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: the portal as a supplement as opposed to trying to

1411
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: build the majority of the roster that way.

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Speaker 11: Not necessarily, No, I mean, first of all, I don't

1413
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 11: think Clubs is winning the National Championship. We can, we

1414
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 11: can start there, But second, everyone's got to do what's

1415
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 11: best for their own program and for some programs they're

1416
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 11: going to be more portal heavy. From year to year,

1417
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 11: it's gonna change because they're gonna have different roster needs. Also,

1418
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 11: in this era with the revenue sharing, we're gonna see

1419
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 11: schools r contracts in a little bit of a different way,

1420
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 11: So that may naturally kind of tamp down on the

1421
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 11: portal activity. I think maybe the quality of players in

1422
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 11: the portal at certain level will go down. So like,

1423
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 11: there's just a lot of different factors to it. And

1424
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 11: I don't think because one team wins doing it one

1425
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 11: way that that means everybody automatically has to try to

1426
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 11: copy them. I don't really think that's the way it

1427
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 11: works anymore.

1428
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 3: Dan Welkin from Yahoo Sports is our guest here on

1429
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: the f and A show on FSR. Dan, you mentioned

1430
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: you need to see it from LSU and Brian Kelly.

1431
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: Is that your philosophy also with Penn State and James Franklin,

1432
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: you still got to see them prove it. Even as

1433
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: stacked as this team looks, do you think they still

1434
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: are going to struggle in those big moments?

1435
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Speaker 11: Penn State, It's an interesting proposition because they have proven it.

1436
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 11: They've been a top level program, not every single year,

1437
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 11: but for quite a long time. Most of the time

1438
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 11: they're you know, very solidly inside the top ten. And

1439
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 11: you know, the margins once you start to get up

1440
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 11: to the very very top become become harder to close.

1441
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 11: And I think at the top end of the sport,

1442
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 11: they've just proven that, you know, the talent level is

1443
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 11: maybe just a half kick below what it needs to

1444
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 11: be to win a national championship. And then you know,

1445
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 11: you've got the James Franklin on game day. What's going

1446
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 11: to happen? Because his game management skills are you know,

1447
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 11: at this point, I would say not even average for

1448
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 11: a Power five level coach. They lose some mart they

1449
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 11: just do. They lose some margin there because he does

1450
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 11: not manage games all that well. And I don't think

1451
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 11: that's gonna suddenly change overnight.

1452
01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: He's the same guy.

1453
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 11: He's been doing this a long time. I think the

1454
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 11: deficiencies are what they are. But can they win a

1455
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 11: national championship? Absolutely, things have to fall the right way,

1456
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 11: They have to stay healthy. They certainly have a very good,

1457
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 11: experienced team. But you know, what we're talking about with

1458
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 11: them is much different than where we're at with Brian.

1459
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: Kelly and LSU.

1460
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Speaker 11: Brian Kelly at LSU in three years has not even

1461
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 11: been close to the national title race. Penn State has

1462
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 11: been there, and for them to prove it is just

1463
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 11: can you win that one game against the elite of

1464
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 11: the elite, and we'll see, we'll see.

1465
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Speaker 2: What's your outlook for North Carolina this coming season with

1466
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick mystery do your job at no distractions that

1467
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 2: he's taken flak because of the Hulu reality show and

1468
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: he and Jordan Hudson apparently trademarking the term gold digger

1469
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: and all the noise around North Carolina outside of football,

1470
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: which is sort of the antithesis of how he built

1471
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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots program. So, just from people you've

1472
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: talked to and what you observed, what do you think

1473
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: is a realistic outlook for Bill Belichick this season and whatever,

1474
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: however longest tenure at North Carolina is going to ultimately

1475
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: end up being.

1476
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Speaker 11: Yeah, everyone is just speculating and guessing at this point

1477
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 11: because we don't really know what their team is. Obviously,

1478
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 11: Monday night when they play TCU will have some sense

1479
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 11: of it, and I'm excited to I'll be there. It'll

1480
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 11: be fascinating to watch them and see what they look like.

1481
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 11: But if I had to guess, I just sort of

1482
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 11: default back to the simplest part of the discussion, which

1483
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 11: is Bill Belichick is without question one of the great,

1484
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 11: if not the greatest football coach at any level we've

1485
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 11: ever seen. And if that's true, then North Carolina will

1486
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 11: be significantly better simply by virtue of being coached better.

1487
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 11: And you know, it's not like they're playing in the

1488
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 11: AFC East. This is the acc They have a relatively

1489
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 11: manageable schedule. If they go on nine ten games something

1490
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 11: like that, I would not be surprised. Having said that,

1491
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 11: there's also a possibility they're going to be very bad

1492
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 11: because they just haven't had enough time to flip the

1493
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 11: roster yet. But I would lean towards they'll be pretty good,

1494
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 11: just because you know, Oukham's razor Bill Belichick's a great

1495
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 11: football coach.

1496
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: Dan Welkin here is with us on the FNS show

1497
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: on FSR. Dans USC got into a place where they're

1498
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: almost underrated at this point. Like I know, they got

1499
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 3: humbled a little bit their first year in the Big Ten,

1500
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 3: but they lost a lot of close games. They're betting

1501
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: on those coin flips going in their favor this time.

1502
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure could they overachieve these low expectations, Yeah, I was.

1503
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 11: I was a little surprised that they didn't crack the

1504
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 11: top twenty five in the preseason. And that does speak

1505
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 11: volumes just about where the vibes are right now around

1506
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 11: Lincoln Riley and what they haven't done. And I get

1507
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 11: it because, like it's it's not like they're out there

1508
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 11: dominating recruiting on the West Coast, pulling in these incredible classes.

1509
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 11: You know, that's been a bit of a disappointment. We've

1510
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 11: seen some of the issues they've had on the field. Defensively,

1511
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 11: they were better last year, but not close to good enough.

1512
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 11: You know, has the well run dry on elite quarterbacks.

1513
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 11: Obviously there was a huge run, but maybe it's a

1514
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 11: little bit of a gap there for Lincoln Riley. There's

1515
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 11: there's a lot of question marks and they feel a

1516
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 11: little irrelevant, which shouldn't be the case given what they

1517
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 11: invested in in Lincoln to come out there and bring

1518
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 11: them to the College Football Playoffs and potentially compete for

1519
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 11: national titles. We'll see what they are this year, but

1520
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 11: you know, it just doesn't feel like they're even in

1521
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 11: the conversation right now.

1522
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: Speaking in the conversation, let's talk a group of five,

1523
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: our group of six. I guess, if you want to

1524
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: call it, what's still the PAC two as of now.

1525
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 2: As far as who you think is is the favorite

1526
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: to get that automatic bid from a group of five,

1527
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: Boise State was the favor by a lot of people

1528
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: going in and after what happened on Thursday night, Boy,

1529
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: something tells you that's probably going to change. So from

1530
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 2: your outlook, as far as the group of five programs

1531
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: they have the best shot of cracking the playoff, who

1532
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: do you think that is?

1533
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's always interesting. I just picked Memphis because I

1534
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 11: think they recruit at a level that's so much higher

1535
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 11: than the league they're in in the American Conference. Now,

1536
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 11: obviously South Florida looked like maybe they're gonna have something

1537
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 11: to say about that. Maybe they'll contend in the American

1538
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 11: or maybe they won't. You know, maybe that was just

1539
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 11: kind of a weird outlier performance. Time will tell. But

1540
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 11: if you're just gonna go by kind of who's got

1541
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 11: the closest thing from a talent standpoint to a Power

1542
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 11: five roster, I think it's probably Memphis, so I would

1543
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 11: just default to them.

1544
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: All right, this is the obligatory question that we have

1545
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: to ask about the ever changing lands in college football.

1546
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: So you've seen all the machinations, You've covered the sport

1547
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: for a long period of time. The BCS, the four

1548
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: team playoff were now at twelve. So, as someone who

1549
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: asked seen it all, I have a two part question. One,

1550
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: what in europeion is the best solution for a college

1551
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: football postseason? And two, based on who you talk to

1552
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: and what you know, what do you think is the

1553
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 2: most likely long term playoff scenario for college football?

1554
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 11: I was fine with twelve, and I don't really understand

1555
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 11: why there's this rush to throw that format in the

1556
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 11: crash and start over. It's all just because of access

1557
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 11: these conferences. Now that we've expanded access, they want access

1558
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 11: to continue because they wanted more teams to be part

1559
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 11: of it. The problem is with some of these proposals,

1560
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 11: you're really getting into not only devaluing the regular season,

1561
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 11: you're also just including teams that just have no business

1562
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 11: being in a national championship playoff. Some of these eight

1563
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 11: and four teams in the SEC, in the Big Ten,

1564
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 11: and like, why should they be in. Why should they

1565
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 11: be in this thing? Nobody really buys it, And I

1566
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 11: don't really think it's gonna move the needle very much financially.

1567
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 11: For sure, Television is not going to care that much

1568
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 11: about those games. And if you do it at the

1569
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 11: expense of the regular season, then I don't think you've

1570
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 11: advanced the interests of the sport. And you know, I

1571
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 11: thought last year with the twelve team or so many

1572
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 11: games felt very relevant late in the season because of

1573
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 11: the number of teams that were in the mix. But

1574
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 11: there is a threshold you cross if you go to

1575
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 11: you know, sixteen or twenty four or twenty eight or

1576
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 11: some of these numbers people are throwing out there where

1577
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 11: it doesn't matter if you win or lose a game

1578
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 11: late in the season because you're already in because there's

1579
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 11: so many teams. And I think that would be a

1580
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 11: mistake for the stakeholders of college football to go down

1581
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 11: that road. I would just stick with twelve, but I'm

1582
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 11: guessing it'll probably settle at sixteen at some point in

1583
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 11: the near future.

1584
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 3: Dan, speaking of obligatory and required, here, can we get

1585
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: your eventual champion pick and your Heisman pick?

1586
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, what we've maybe seeing him in the same game

1587
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 11: on Saturday. I think Jeremiah Smith is gonna win the

1588
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 11: Heisman just because I think he's the best player in

1589
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 11: the country. And I think the Excess is probably gonna

1590
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 11: win the national championship. They have the deepest and most

1591
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 11: talented roster, I believe, and if Arch is just decent,

1592
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 11: then I think by the end of the season they're

1593
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 11: probably going to be the best team.

1594
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 3: Dan, you know you've taken some incoming here and there

1595
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 3: with strong views and opinions. We went national recently. Any

1596
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 3: advice for dealing with the haters when you're on a

1597
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: big platform.

1598
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 11: Just ignore it. Yeah, don't even worry about it.

1599
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: So mute your thing, do your thing, run.

1600
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: Your own race. By the way, I know you're a

1601
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: big tennis guy too. Before we let you go. I

1602
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you're at the US Open and Flushing Medals,

1603
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: have you heard about these cavar cover chicken nuggets.

1604
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 11: I've seen that before. Me not my not my not

1605
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 11: my bag, I would say, I don't.

1606
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't you know.

1607
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 11: I kind of got my little routine. I'll be up

1608
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 11: there next week for a little while. They have great

1609
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 11: concessions there. That's one thing about the US Open. They

1610
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 11: have unbelievable concessions. I don't really need cavir when I'm

1611
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 11: watching tennis, though I don't. That's doesn't do it for me.

1612
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 3: I needed a twenty piece with caveat.

1613
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like, well, like a minor league baseball promotion.

1614
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: The great Dan Wolkin, formerly of USA Today, now with

1615
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: Yahoo Sports, covering of course college football, but also tennis,

1616
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: the Olympics, and all the important stories over at Yahoo. Dan,

1617
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: thanks so much for doing this, man. We appreciate it.

1618
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 11: Thanks appreciated.

1619
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: Gay. Not only do we get people prepped for college football,

1620
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: Dan Wolkin got people prepped.

1621
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm prepped for those caviar cover nuggets.

1622
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: Have you seen these?

1623
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: By the way, it doesn't sound great to me.

1624
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 9: No.

1625
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 3: I like nuggets and I'll take just about anything on him.

1626
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 3: But that seems a little much hody toy.

1627
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm not a big caviar guy to begin with, so

1628
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 2: it also just doesn't seem like it mixes well. That's

1629
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: the issue, like, why would you of all things to

1630
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: put together? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

1631
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with my Polynesian sauce from Chick fil a,

1632
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, goes something like that. That's all I need

1633
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 3: about ranch or barbecue. Keep it sip kiss, keep it

1634
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 3: sitting the.

1635
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: Ranch person of the barking person. To be honest with

1636
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: you these days mix it. Uh, you know what? I

1637
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: haven't actually am I missing out?

1638
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 3: You haven't lived.

1639
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: It's Kevin figures Autam Alston on Fox Sports Saturday. Coming up, Adam,

1640
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: we have a Stranger Than Fiction.

1641
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: Every ten old is new again and also good. I

1642
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 3: feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. That's coming

1643
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: up next here on Stranger than Fiction on f n

1644
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: A on f SR, Fox Sports Saturday.

1645
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: Kevin figures Adam Alston back with you guys at k

1646
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: figure ones where you can find you on You could

1647
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: find Adam on X as well. Thanks again to Dan

1648
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: Wilkin from Yahoo Sports, popping on last segment, talking college

1649
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: football with us. Right now, let's get to one of

1650
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: our favorite segments.

1651
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 6: Here a fast food customer defending perticies called nine to

1652
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 6: one one after her.

1653
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: McDonald's run out of McNuggets.

1654
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 7: He can't give a drunk man riding a horse at Ewy.

1655
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 7: He goes unlike card boards just don't have motors. They

1656
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 7: have a mind in their own.

1657
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 2: Strange things begin.

1658
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 4: Twenty four year old man.

1659
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 3: Now jus they're throwing an alligator through a drive through window.

1660
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 10: Too high.

1661
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 6: Strange.

1662
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: So, Kevin, this stranger than Fiction story is gonna be

1663
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 3: a little different. It's not a story about a guy

1664
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: seeing like the Virgin Mary in his pancakes or in

1665
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 3: his lemon pepper wings at Magic City. What's up, Rob Parker.

1666
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 3: It's not one of those type of things.

1667
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: You gotta have the bones, you gotta have the structure.

1668
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 3: There's something strange happening in my particular con biodome right now. Kevin.

1669
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: You know I'm an overly critical a hole sometimes when

1670
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: it comes to music, movies, TV, all the time. I'm

1671
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 3: a harsh judge, all right, especially when we're talking about

1672
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: reaching back to the past and the destruction many have

1673
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: done to my childhood by ruining movies and characters that

1674
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 3: I once held sacred.

1675
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: No, this is a passion point for you.

1676
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm tired of all these remakes, reboots and tardy sequels.

1677
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 3: I need another Jurassic Park movie about as much as

1678
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 3: I need barber Salts shaving cream to sweeten my pie.

1679
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: Like I need another Star Wars trilogy about as much

1680
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 3: as I need a lightsaber to help me shave, so

1681
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 3: that would probably kill me. But I gotta say there

1682
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: have been a string of nostalgia plays recently and fans

1683
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: service from franchises and artists I thought can only disappoint me,

1684
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: but instead I found them quite enjoyable. Lately, I'm as

1685
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 3: shocked as anyone by this new development here. Strange things

1686
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 3: are happening, stranger than f is, Right, like the fictional

1687
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: aliens in Alien Earth I mentioned last week.

1688
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 2: We're going back on Alien Earth again.

1689
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to say, I didn't expect it

1690
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: to be this good. It's amazing, like it's a blast

1691
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 3: from the past. It's wowing me how well they're handling

1692
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: the aliens. And then I went and saw the new

1693
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 3: Naked Gun movie with Liam Neeson and it was funny.

1694
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 2: You actually went to the theater to see this. I

1695
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: know you were bored.

1696
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: It was good. It was a worthy addition.

1697
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: What were you expecting because you were not expecting it

1698
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:30,799
Speaker 2: to be good.

1699
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 3: Not this funny? Yeah, this was It's a reboot. I mean,

1700
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be offended by this. How dare anyone

1701
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: else try to be well?

1702
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm offended. I'm not offended by it, but I'm surprised

1703
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: that you would actually spend money to actually go see

1704
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: something that you were expecting to be terrible.

1705
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: Well, I was bored and college football hadn't started exactly,

1706
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 3: I say, you were bored.

1707
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: That's that's what it was.

1708
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: It wouldn't happen. Now, these are different times. We got

1709
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 3: football over the place. But Liam Neeson did about as

1710
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: good of a job as you could filling those big

1711
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 3: clown of shoes that Leslie Nielsen left for him. They

1712
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 3: both have the same initials, by the way, which is cool.

1713
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: They didn't just wait in the past and say, hey,

1714
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 3: remember this gag from the original Jokes. No, they brought

1715
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 3: their own laugh bag of tricks to the New Naked Gun.

1716
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 3: It was fun. Then I got another treat this past week.

1717
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 3: One of my favorite bands from the nineties put out

1718
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: their tenth album, and you know what it's Hella good.

1719
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh I know you're a big Coldplay guys?

1720
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 3: No, No, how dare you see? Coldplay fell off after

1721
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: the first two albums, But my Deaf Tones, the Deaf

1722
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 3: Tones from sack Town, from Sacramento. They have become one

1723
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 3: of the biggest bands in the world now bigger than

1724
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 3: they were when they initially peaked in the two thousands,

1725
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 3: and now they came out with this new album, Private Music.

1726
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 3: It dropped last week to the masses, and the drop

1727
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 3: d on Stephan Carpenter's guitar never sounded better. It's the slickest,

1728
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: most melodic deaf tone album in at least fifteen years.

1729
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: The guys are like fifty and putting out some of

1730
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: their best material while sober. That never happens. Okay, a

1731
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 3: band over thirty years old is putting out new music

1732
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 3: that is good, So let's review. I've gotten new Aliens

1733
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: that's been good, New Naked Gun that's been good, New

1734
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 3: Deftones in the last couple of weeks. All of it's

1735
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: been great. This is like a modern miracle. This is

1736
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 3: like Summer of George, but instead it's Summer of Adam

1737
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 3: going on. Everything is coming up roses for me with

1738
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 3: stuff that you suck. I've been enjoying so many new

1739
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 3: spins on old content. I've actually questioned whether or not

1740
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm washed, Like maybe these projects aren't that good and

1741
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 3: I'm just getting old.

1742
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna say anything. It was like, maybe you're

1743
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: a palette has changed, and it's actually gotten worse.

1744
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,919
Speaker 3: Most of the time, I'm like Principal Skinner, a questioning

1745
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 3: Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who

1746
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 3: are wrong. But this time I agree with the kids.

1747
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: They like this new stuff.

1748
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 2: I like it, Like I thought, are you sure you're

1749
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: not just going through a midlife crisis? Is because the

1750
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: kids think it's cool. You feel like you have to

1751
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: think that it's cool. It's not it.

1752
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 3: I swear by Steve, you shimmy, what's up, fellow kids? No,

1753
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 3: but this is like a twilight zone moment for me.

1754
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 3: But then I remembered something I recently hated, and this

1755
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 3: thing I hated centered me. It reminded me. No, I

1756
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 3: still have good taste. I still can decipher between good

1757
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: and bad material. I hated the new Happy Gilmore too.

1758
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm not washed. I still know what's good and what's not.

1759
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: It just so happens a lot of stuff that I

1760
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 3: wouldn't think being good is happening right now. We'll see

1761
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 3: it was good.

1762
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 2: Coming up later this afternoon, Arch Manning big time debut

1763
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: on FSR.

1764
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1765
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 3: CFNA show here on fs R welcome back. Our three

1766
01:21:55,479 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: coming up. We got Breeze three. Always good. But as

1767
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 3: we mentioned earlier, Kevin, there's quite the debut coming up

1768
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 3: just hours from now. It will be rsh Manning.

1769
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the much anticipated Now granted he has played, it's

1770
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 2: not like we've never seen him before. He did play

1771
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 2: a couple of games last season, which alreadyeers got injured.

1772
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 3: You know, he's got wiggle like, It's not just the

1773
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 3: straight line top end speed. He's got some of that

1774
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: Johnny Manzell left to right, being able to move like that.

1775
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 3: If that is as big a part of his game

1776
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: as people are touting it to be, then yes, he's

1777
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 3: gonna be very special.

1778
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: Not quite Gumby like like I used to say, Lamar

1779
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 2: Jackson when he played at Louisville, it was almost like Gumby,

1780
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 2: Like he was very bindy and no one could catch

1781
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 2: up with him, and it was like.

1782
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: A whoo.

1783
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like one of those little flyer things you see

1784
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 3: outside of a car dealership.

1785
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those whole balloon things. Yeah, the used car things.

1786
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: They're like they're dancing and blowing all over the place,

1787
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: exactly like one of those. So that's more, he's not

1788
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: quite that shifty, but considering his name, is Manning phenomenal

1789
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: athlete at least compared to his uncles and is uh

1790
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, I guess his grandfather was pretty amazing when

1791
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: he came to having some wheels on him relative to

1792
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: his uncles and dad, but running for his life. Yeah,

1793
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: like every Saints quarterback pretty.

1794
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 3: Much well, and they really had I know, Drew Brees

1795
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,480
Speaker 3: was pretty good, but uh slightly.

1796
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: Thankfully they had him. Otherwise, who was the best Saints

1797
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: quarterback not named Drew Brees? Uh? I mean roads all over.

1798
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 9: It has to be Arch Manning And that's the most

1799
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 9: memorable historical everybody else last like a year and goes

1800
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 9: bye bye.

1801
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: Jake Delon was there for a cup of coffee, as

1802
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 2: Rob Parker would say.

1803
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he left to go to greener pastures

1804
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 3: with my Carolina Panthers.

1805
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 12: Andy Dalton, also a former New Orleans.

1806
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: Which is favorite quarterback of all times ever heard of him?

1807
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 12: Blocked out no idea.

1808
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 3: And now you guys put in your faith in Spencer Rattler.

1809
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: That way is that?

1810
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 8: Wait?

1811
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 3: Is it? Don't tread on us with the Saints?

1812
01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 7: Now?

1813
01:23:59,640 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 5: That is?

1814
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 2: Is that what Saints fans are gonna do? When Spencer

1815
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 2: Ratler plays.

1816
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 9: I'm actually Jonas does that, and so that's I'm just

1817
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 9: copying him that he says a but I'm a huge

1818
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 9: Spencer Ratler fan.

1819
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 12: I have a lot of faith in him. Is it

1820
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 12: ridiculous faith? Is it Delulu faith? Yes?

1821
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'd be concerned that.

1822
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 2: Very very ging z of you to say de Lulu.

1823
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, don't say that, is it?

1824
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: Oh?

1825
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1826
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 10: Right?

1827
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 2: Or farming or whatever. I could do this all night.

1828
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 3: No, it's.

1829
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 12: Okay, that's like, that's millennial.

1830
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: Now it's old. Now I get you exactly. Let's I

1831
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: find out about it. I know it's old and it's

1832
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 2: over and now the kids are going to move on

1833
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: to something else. But we're talking about arch Manning. It's

1834
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: a very hyped, much hype debut, not only for the

1835
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: fact that it's great Texas versus Ohio State, but because

1836
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: of the blood lines. People are already saying that he's

1837
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: the front runner for the Heisman Trophy. As Dan Wilkin

1838
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: mentioned last hour, we'll see people think he's going to

1839
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: be the top overall pick in the draft, which some

1840
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: people believe the Saints might have that pick. And you

1841
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,440
Speaker 2: might follow his grandfather's footsteps.

1842
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1843
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: So God was to thinking about much ballyhooed, popular, well

1844
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: looked ahead for sports debuts, some overly hyped or maybe

1845
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: over hyped, or maybe rightfully hyped. I don't know.

1846
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 3: Tell me it's a good theme.

1847
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 10: I like it.

1848
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: The first one that immediately came to mind for me

1849
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: probably hits home close for you. Adam is Lebron James.

1850
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: Lebron James Lebron.

1851
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: James made his NBA debut in two thousand and three.

1852
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 2: It was the first overall picked by the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1853
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: In his first game was in Sacramento against I guess

1854
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: they were your Kings. Now now you're a Clipper guy,

1855
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: as you wear your Clippers hat.

1856
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 3: Well, the Kings betrayed me.

1857
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: How did they betray you?

1858
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 3: Well, they're dysfunctional, like they're like that.

1859
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: They've been like that the majority of their existence. They

1860
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: had a slight run in the two thousands with the

1861
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: Mloof Brothers for about seven years.

1862
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 3: People traying for the maloof brothers at this point. With

1863
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: how bad things have been, it's been a dumpster fire

1864
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 3: at times, especially with the deer and fox trade as

1865
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 3: of late. For the Sacramento Kings, but.

1866
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: You were remember Lebron James who I mean, we knew

1867
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 2: about Lebron James when he was a sophomore in high

1868
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: school at Saint Vincent, Saint Mary and Acron and people

1869
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: are talking about him being the first door overall pick.

1870
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: And I remember back then people were saying, this guy

1871
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: is Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson combined. He's going to

1872
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer. Yeah, you, He's gonna win

1873
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 2: multiple championships. He's going to be an all time great

1874
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done, He's going to be

1875
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: one of the greatest players in the history of the sport.

1876
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: And at the time, I was like, what is wrong

1877
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: with you people? He is sixteen years old. He can't

1878
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 2: even drive, Like, can you let him be a high

1879
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: school kid and let him work and let him do

1880
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: his thing and whatever happens happens. Now, sure enough, pretty

1881
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: much all that came true to we're at a point

1882
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: now where there's ongoing, raging debates that will never end

1883
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 2: as to who's the better basketball player between he and

1884
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.

1885
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,919
Speaker 3: I remember watching this game on up North. It's ABC

1886
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 3: ten that was the local King's affiliate at the time.

1887
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 3: And I'm sure it might have been carried on ABC

1888
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 3: nationally because it was Lebron.

1889
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: James or Letter probably would have picked that game up

1890
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: or TNT at the time or whoever at the national Rights.

1891
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 3: But you know, the Kings had their local feet as well.

1892
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 3: And I'm watching it and I actually went back to

1893
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 3: check my own memory on this of how that game went.

1894
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't think Twitter was around back then, so I

1895
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: don't went on YouTube.

1896
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: It's up. You can watch the full gamer at least

1897
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: some of the Lebron James highlights. First shot he makes

1898
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: is a jumper and it's over Mike Bibbie. Like, this

1899
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 3: game is so old and the league has changed so

1900
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 3: much that they basically were matching up point guard to

1901
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 3: point guard because Lebron James came out and was running

1902
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 3: point for Paul Silas with the Cavaliers. His first major play,

1903
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 3: which is kind of apropos because he looks for his

1904
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: teammates first, is throwing an oop to Ricky Davis for

1905
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 3: a dunk.

1906
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh Ricky Davis, He of the trying to get his

1907
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: own triple double by getting a rebound off of his

1908
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: own basket. Yes, Jerry Sloan did not like that and

1909
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: Lan didn't like a lot of things. Jerry Sloan was

1910
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: just perpetually Matt did he call it bush League?

1911
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 3: I forget what it Probably he was right, uh, but

1912
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: the fact that Mike Bibby at six' one was trying

1913
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 3: to Guard Lebron james just because they're both boy. Guards

1914
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 3: so that's how you match. Up nowadays it's more cross, matchups, like,

1915
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 3: Hey lebron isn't technically playing the, one but he is

1916
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 3: a point. Forward it was just it's honestly as a

1917
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 3: different league that you're looking at just twenty years.

1918
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: Ago, well If Mike bibby was as swollen then as

1919
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 2: he is, NOW i, mean he would have Bodied lebron

1920
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: all the way back to the.

1921
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 3: Backcourt so, FAIR i thought WHEN i was watching that

1922
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: game back in two thousand and, three as all the

1923
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 3: comparisons were To, mike and for so long we had

1924
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 3: gotten all These Michael jordan clones that didn't live up

1925
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 3: to Being Michael. Jordan of, Course Kobe bryant definitely got the,

1926
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 3: closest but you think Of Vince, CARTER i think a,

1927
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 3: tea Mac, Grant hill And penny were supposed to carry

1928
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: the league at one point.

1929
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: Remember Harold, minor who came nowhere close.

1930
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: To, that No Baby. Jordan but watching that first game

1931
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 3: With Lebron, JAMES i actually was, Going, huh this is

1932
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 3: actually something. Different this isn't A Michael jordan clone out.

1933
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 3: There this is magic and dominique with a little bit

1934
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 3: of almost Like Baby. Shack this is nothing we had ever.

1935
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 3: Seen it didn't feel like a cheap imitation of Mj

1936
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 3: it felt like something new and it.

1937
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 2: Was So i'm Assuming Lebron james was on your list

1938
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: of big time debuts if.

1939
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 3: You're talking about most hype, players, ever he has to be.

1940
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 2: There now we're talking about hype. Players. Man we were

1941
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 2: talking a lot Of saints today on the, show specifically this.

1942
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 2: SEGMENT i don't know, Why, well how do we not

1943
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Mention Reggie? Bush, Okay Reggie bush big Time heisman? Winner

1944
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: controversially so not because he had a stripped, away because

1945
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: he got a house in money and all that, stuff

1946
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 2: but because there was a lot of people at the

1947
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 2: time who thought That Vince young should have won The,

1948
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: heisman AND i think they had a legitimate case for.

1949
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: THAT i probably we would have still given it To,

1950
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 2: reggie BUT i certainly would not have argued That Vince

1951
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 2: young would have won The. Heisman, Now vince got the

1952
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: ultimate last left winning The National championship that, year.

1953
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: And reggie having the fumble on that lateral early on

1954
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 3: in that game kind of set in a bad.

1955
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 2: Tone, Yeah so The raggie debate going into that draft

1956
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 2: Was Reggie bush Versus Vince young and then our old

1957
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 2: Friend Charlie casherley FORMER fna podcast. Guest that's. Right the

1958
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 2: outgoing general manager of The Houston, texans who had the

1959
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: first overall pick at the, time shocked everybody took when

1960
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: he took a defensive end out Of Vincy state Named Mario.

1961
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 3: Williams he was the Original Nico. Harrison he.

1962
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 2: Was people are, like what the hell is already taking

1963
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 2: this guy when you have these two generational talents that

1964
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: you could have, Taken well you fast. Forward Mario williams

1965
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 2: had just under one hundred Career sacks was one of

1966
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 2: the best patch versus of THE nfl for a better

1967
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 2: part of a. Decade Vince young flamed out after what

1968
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 2: five six years something like. That, Yeah Reggie, BUSH i would,

1969
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 2: say had a good, career BUT noh club people were

1970
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: saying he was the Next gaale sayers he was going

1971
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: to be A hall Of. Famer, Now Petrous papadak as our. Friend,

1972
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah petrick else was always very skeptical of. HIM i

1973
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 2: think can't run between the. TACKLES i think his exact

1974
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 2: quote was he's light in the. ASS i think it

1975
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 2: was an exact. Quote But reggie was a very good

1976
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: change of, pace you, know guy out of the, backfield

1977
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: kind of like A Charlie garner, type you. Know, yeah

1978
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 2: he was very productive his. Rolls, yeah his first game

1979
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 2: he had like fifty yards, rushing sixty yards receiving was,

1980
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: good but never anything. Spectacular did help The saints win

1981
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: A Super, bowl so, well never we have that taken

1982
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 2: away from.

1983
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 3: Him they have a big punk return along the way

1984
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 3: in that playoff.

1985
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 2: Run he was a very productive, player but he was

1986
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 2: very much hype coming out OF. Usc people really were

1987
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 2: looking forward to his deview and thought he would turn

1988
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 2: into A hall Of fame type player and just did

1989
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily work out for. Him but he was someone

1990
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 2: who was extremely hyped when he came.

1991
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 3: Out, OKAY i got somebody for. You not talking about

1992
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 3: a guy on the, hardwood on the, field on the,

1993
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:56,839
Speaker 3: Diamond i'm talking about the Late Kimbo. SLICE i remember

1994
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 3: watching grainy backyard brawls with the street Fighter Kimbo slice

1995
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 3: putting gashes in guys faces that made it look like

1996
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 3: they got bitten by a shark because he had heavy.

1997
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 3: HANDS i also remember that first loss he took to

1998
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 3: this Guy Sean, gannon who also passed away a few years,

1999
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 3: back also from heart. Failure but when we Heard Kimbo

2000
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 3: slice was going to participate in The Ultimate fighter season

2001
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 3: ten and try to earn his way into THE, ufc

2002
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 3: the underground fight scene was going. Crazy this was Big

2003
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 3: and then who do you lose to this fat ass

2004
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 3: keg Belly Roy nelson guy like he just laid On

2005
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 3: kimbo for fifteen minutes and we were. Devastated he got

2006
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 3: beaten by a guy that looked Like Jelly roll like.

2007
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 1: He Did Roy.

2008
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 3: Nelson Now Roy nelson did have some, hands but The

2009
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 3: kimbo hype train went off the tracks early there by

2010
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 3: a guy whose belly was hanging over his. Belts he

2011
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 3: looked like he had a fat suit on from like

2012
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 3: Fat bastard And Austin power.

2013
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: And don't understand the fat people man speaking.

2014
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 3: Of, petros he would have called Him Octo dad like

2015
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 3: he Did Rex, Ryan, like that's what this guy looked.

2016
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 3: Like that Beat Kimbo.

2017
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Slice people underestimated. Him it was, like, oh he thinks

2018
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 2: it's fat and.

2019
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 3: SLOW I Kimbo slice was supposed to come in Like

2020
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,759
Speaker 3: Mike tyson and just knock everybody out within the first

2021
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 3: thirty seconds because he was a. Monster when it came

2022
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,799
Speaker 3: to bare knuckle fighting in the, streets he got humbled

2023
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 3: a little. Bit he only was probably in ten or

2024
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 3: twelve professional. Fights he was older when he got. In

2025
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 3: But Kimbo slice significantly hyped coming into THE UFC a

2026
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 3: little bit of a, disappointment but still gave us a

2027
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 3: lot of.

2028
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Memory that's a good. ONE i forgot about that. One

2029
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 2: i'm gonna go back to football for the next. One

2030
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 2: and speaking of someone who got a lot of hype

2031
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 2: at a young age early in his career at the quarterback,

2032
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 2: Position i'm gonna go With Andrew. Luck Andrew luck was

2033
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 2: a sophomore At. Stanford people, said if this guy was

2034
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 2: able to come out, today he would be the first

2035
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 2: overall pick in the. Draft was a red shirt. SOPHOMORE

2036
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 2: i believe could have come out and decided to stay

2037
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: AND i believe that was the year That Cam newton

2038
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 2: came out and was drafted by The.

2039
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 3: Panthers guess who was upset that he didn't come. Out

2040
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 3: This panthers fan right, HERE i thought we were Getting andrew. Up.

2041
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 2: Now all the honorable mentions list Was Cam, newton who

2042
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: had a phenomenal debut against The. CARDINALS i think he

2043
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: had like four hundred yards, passing one hundred yards rushing

2044
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 2: in like four touchdowns or. Something, now they, lost but

2045
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 2: he still had a great, debut so empty.

2046
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 3: Numbers he turned into AN.

2047
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: MVP i Think Cam newton had a pretty damn good career, There.

2048
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,560
Speaker 3: Adam he had a nice OUTLIER mvp season leading to

2049
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 3: him not jumping on that fumble in The Super bowl

2050
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:47,879
Speaker 3: against the demo.

2051
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 2: Rate because The panthers have had such a great run

2052
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 2: of success throughout their franchise's history story short franchise is,

2053
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 2: history by the. Way But andrew Luck colt select him first,

2054
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: overall by the, way just the shoke of luck That Peyton,

2055
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 2: manning you, know has this shoulder slash neck, injury gets

2056
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,600
Speaker 2: knocked out for the entire. Season they go into the,

2057
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: tank get their first overall, pick and they go from

2058
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 2: one generational quarterback to another And Andrew.

2059
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 3: Luck it felt like The San Antonio spurs Having David

2060
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 3: robinson out for a year with that back, injury which

2061
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 3: let them get and Draft Tim duncan number.

2062
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 6: One.

2063
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, now his debut was not. Spectacular he threw three

2064
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 2: interceptions and a loss to The bears and got roughed

2065
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 2: up pretty. Good but his, career however, short was spectacular

2066
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 2: and was probably trending towards being at the very least

2067
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: a Borderline hall Of. Famer but he. Was HE'S i,

2068
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 2: mean he led him to THE Afc Championship, GAME i

2069
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: believe in his second season before they lost to The,

2070
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: patriots and obviously after seven, seasons decided to hang it

2071
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 2: up and he's now the general manager of The stanford football.

2072
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 2: Program But Andrew luck someone who received a lot of,

2073
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 2: hype AND i would say his, career although, short lived

2074
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 2: up to.

2075
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 3: It, yeah he wasn't surrounded with a great supporting cast

2076
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 3: there with The, cools but he still.

2077
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 2: Won, yeah you want a decent, amount despite the fact

2078
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 2: that his roster was not very.

2079
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 3: GOOD i felt like he showed the potential that he

2080
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 3: had At stanford and if the right pieces were, there

2081
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: he could have been a Super bowl in the class

2082
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 3: of A Super bowl winning. Quarterback he was that. GOOD

2083
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 3: i was disappointed that he retired, early BUT i also understand.

2084
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 3: It same thing happened With Luke keigley with The Carolina.

2085
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 3: Panthers i'm gonna go off the board a little bit.

2086
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 2: Here If Kimbo slice wasn't off the, board what is?

2087
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 3: This i'm talking about something outside of, sports something that

2088
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 3: was very much hyped in my. Childhood in my Youth,

2089
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 3: coke Not New, coke Not CRYSTAL pepsi The White. RANGER

2090
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 3: i remember all the promos leading up to The White

2091
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 3: rangers debut In Power, rangers a New ranger was. COMING

2092
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 3: i was. Hyped we had The Black ranger played by

2093
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 3: a black. Guy, Yep so is The White ranger gonna

2094
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 3: have to be played by a white? Guy? No eventually

2095
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 3: he was played by the Former Green ranger In Tommy,

2096
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: oliver the Late Jason David frank true. Story oh he

2097
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 3: was three and oh, baby and he started very. Late

2098
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 3: his karate skills were real, well obviously he had to

2099
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 3: fight The Punny patrol all those. YEARS i, mean don't

2100
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 3: forget gold Ar what more training do you need than?

2101
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 3: THAT i think he choked a guy out with his

2102
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 3: foot a rare. Move, yes like he had Some Bruce

2103
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 3: lee and. Him he was an absolute martial arts. Savant

2104
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,600
Speaker 3: he was. Incredible but this is a true. STORY i

2105
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 3: actually this is kind of. PATHETIC i probably shouldn't be saying.

2106
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 3: THIS i was so excited for The White ranger episode

2107
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 3: because it was the most hyph thing ever In Power.

2108
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 3: Rangers who's The White? Ranger who was the first New?

2109
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 3: Ranger he came in like season? Two BUT i got in.

2110
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 3: TROUBLE i don't know WHAT i, did WHAT i get

2111
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 3: a minus instead of AN? A LIKE i was a

2112
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 3: pretty good, kid pretty high. Standards some REASON i got

2113
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 3: disciplined and the disciplinary action my parents took what they

2114
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,560
Speaker 3: knew would hurt, me was not letting me watch that

2115
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 3: episode of The Power rangers with the New White. Range

2116
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 3: who knows to you mister and Missus. Auslin, now they

2117
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 3: did at least record it for, me SO i caught

2118
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 3: it the next, week BUT i didn't get to see

2119
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 3: it with the initial. Premiere but when he was really

2120
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 3: nice of.

2121
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 2: Them, yeah it's really nice because they could have, like,

2122
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 2: no you missed, it, sorry wait for the reruns to come.

2123
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 2: Up they back, then you, know for your kids listening,

2124
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 2: Today SO i can sound like an old. Man you

2125
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: can't just go back and stream something that aired. Yesterday you're. Cooked,

2126
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: yeah you have to wait for it to come out

2127
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: ON vhs or wait for the reruns to cycle back

2128
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 2: like six months.

2129
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 3: Later, yeah or eventually the DVDs come out and you

2130
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 3: paid like one hundred dollars for one season Of THE X.

2131
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 3: FILES i remember when when shows initially came. Out now

2132
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 3: they're all On. Netflix you played ninety nine a? Month,

2133
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 3: yeah what's A? Dvd, anyways When Tommy oliver revealed that

2134
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 3: he was The White, ranger it was a pretty big.

2135
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 3: Deal so not sports, related but, yes, hyped hyped. Debut

2136
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 3: how about you guys listening out there In Fox Sports.

2137
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 3: Radio do you guys have any over hyped? Debut much

2138
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 3: hype worth the?

2139
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 2: Hype some that we. Missed there's a couple that we

2140
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 2: didn't even get to that maybe we can get to

2141
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 2: in the next. Segment but if you have on your,

2142
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 2: mind eight seven seven ninety nine On fox is the

2143
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 2: number eight seven seven ninety nine On. Fox give us a.

2144
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: Ring you can also hit us up on x AT

2145
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 2: kfig one and at Follow adam a as Arch manning

2146
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: gets ready to make his official debut as Officially texas's starting,

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01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: quarterback coming up just a few hours from. Now talking

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01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 2: about some big, time much hyped debuts in sports or

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01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 2: Otherwise here On Fox Sports saturday on Fsr's Kevin figures

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01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 2: And Adam Auslin Fox Sports Saturday coming back With.

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01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 3: birthday is? It james Harden. Net, yeah it's amazing you

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Speaker 3: could wrap after the unfortunate accident of being shot like

2159
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 3: five times in the face fifty and put out your

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01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 3: best album. Afterwards that's. TRUE i give Doctor dre a

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Speaker 3: lot of. Credit of, course the beat thing in the

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Speaker 3: lab upside down doing those ab. Crunchies remember football is

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01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 3: back for the best pregame show every, weekend be sure

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01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 3: to tune Into Fox Sports Radios countdown To, kickoff presented

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01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 3: count you down to all of the biggest games for

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Speaker 3: three hours right up until. Kickoff for all the best

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Speaker 3: plays and up to the second injury. News tune in

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Speaker 3: saturday And sunday morning here On Fox Sports radio and

2171
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Speaker 3: The iHeart. App all, Right, Kevin let's continue the conversation

2172
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 3: here bost.

2173
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:07,759
Speaker 2: On, debuts, memorable over hyped or rightfully hyped sports debuts

2174
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 2: or non sports. Debuts adam AND i talked about a

2175
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: few last. Segments adam talked About Kimbo slice in THE.

2176
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 2: Ufc we talked About Reggie, Bush Andrew Luck Lebron james

2177
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: obviously with his debut against The Sacramento kings with The

2178
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 2: cavaliers back in two thousand and. Three let's not forget

2179
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 2: many guys lived up to the hype and he didn't

2180
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: forget who The White.

2181
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 3: Ranger excuse, me less we Less we've come on, now

2182
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 3: rest in.

2183
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 2: Peace The White ranger eight seven seven ninety nine On

2184
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 2: fox is the telephone. Number let's go To Evan evan

2185
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 2: In Kansas. City, evan what's on your?

2186
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 3: Mind?

2187
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 11: Man, hi, guys there's this Guy Tiger, woods who.

2188
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Had a kind of a never heard of him Never, yeah, yeah.

2189
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 7: A hype startup and it's turned out pretty.

2190
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 2: Well just half. Decently when he, was you, know a

2191
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,560
Speaker 2: little kid On what The Tonight show and you know

2192
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 2: something who was hyped up, everywhere he was everywhere as a.

2193
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: Child and, yeah thanks for the, Call, evan much appreciate. It,

2194
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 2: man that's a really good.

2195
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 3: One didn't like he lose his last big amateur event

2196
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 3: though before he went, Pro, like didn't he lose and

2197
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 3: we were all clowning him like he's not going to

2198
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 3: be that. Good he's not gonna outshoot everybody about like

2199
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 3: twenty eight strokes At Pebble beach like he did his first.

2200
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 2: Year, WELL i certainly hope nobody set that on the,

2201
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 2: record because they're the ones who are the, fool and

2202
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 2: you guys are the. Fool all, right let's go To San.

2203
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: DIEGO i, Guy, Poppy, poppy what's? Popping?

2204
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 8: Hey what's?

2205
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 5: Popping?

2206
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 10: Is you know last week we made that blink blink

2207
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 10: with The ravens that told You i'm the best underground

2208
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 10: calf for there Is and, look what do you? Think

2209
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 10: were you guys? Surprised but look talking about. Tomorrow there's

2210
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 10: college football AND i really Liking alabama Versus Florida. State

2211
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 10: the spread right, now, guys is minus. Fourteen alabama's gonna

2212
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 10: do Spank city and you know cleansing, Time they're gonna

2213
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 10: like popping For Florida.

2214
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 3: State how does any of this relate to our theme?

2215
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 3: Here is that the most hype game of the. Weekend

2216
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 3: is that what you're? Saying and that's how you?

2217
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Are you are you excited about the debut With, slash

2218
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: non debut Of Ty simpson With? Alabama is that what it?

2219
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,799
Speaker 10: Is i'm really excited about the, debut you, Know, alabama

2220
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 10: AND i gotta get picks a bit underground, cap but

2221
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 10: there is and also there's gonna be a debut On

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01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 10: thursday night FOOTBALL. Nfl we got football back back game

2223
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 10: is at five twenty. Pm we got The cowboys versus

2224
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 10: The Eagles Chilean. Herds you know, what everyone a lot

2225
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 10: of drama.

2226
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:33,839
Speaker 3: Poppy this ain't, Popping, no this is this ain't a Pringles.

2227
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 3: Can we're done. Here we're not just gonna go through

2228
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 3: the schedule and. Win games are being. Played we appreciate

2229
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 3: the for your lock of the. Week we appreciate, it, Brother,

2230
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 3: yeah we'll be sure to write that down and put

2231
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 3: our life savings and mortgage on. It, kevin do you

2232
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 3: got any more big time debuts when you need to

2233
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 3: go through?

2234
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 11: Here?

2235
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, ONE i can think Of Steven. Strasburg remember he

2236
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 2: And Rice harper we're TAKING i believe in back to

2237
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 2: back drafts by The Washington. Nationals Steven strasburg was very

2238
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 2: much hyped and in his debut In june of twenty,

2239
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 2: ten you realize he had fourteen strikeouts in seven innings

2240
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 2: and did not walk a.

2241
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 3: Batter he was one of DON i know everybody everybody

2242
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 3: throws one hundred, now you know so many guys everybody

2243
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 3: every team has multiple guys that throw a hundred miles.

2244
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 2: Pera oh, yeah like the average fast fall velocity is

2245
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 2: like ninety six and a half miles an hour out

2246
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: of something.

2247
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 3: Stupid but when he came in him as a starter

2248
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 3: throwing that hard was very. Special he, was, yeah hugely

2249
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 3: hyped and as, advertised you, know helped The nationals win

2250
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 3: The World. Series, unfortunately signed a big contract and you,

2251
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 3: know as happens to pitchers who throw that hard that

2252
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 3: consistently ends up getting injured in his career ends probably

2253
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 3: a little earlier than he was hoping, for and fans

2254
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 3: were hoping for it because he was definitely fun to,

2255
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 3: watch but he was the guy that burst onto the

2256
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 3: scene to a lot of. Excitement And i'll also have

2257
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 3: this one For shoeotani as, well because at twenty eighteen

2258
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 3: with The, angels debuted as A, dh three days, long

2259
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 3: debuted as.

2260
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 2: A, pitcher and, uh he only had one. HIT i

2261
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 2: think he was one for three at the plate when

2262
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 2: he debuted as A, dh and then a couple of

2263
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 2: nights later when six, innings struck out six and won

2264
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 2: his first start as a.

2265
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 3: Pitcher i'm still upset as A San Francisco giants fan

2266
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:20,799
Speaker 3: that they didn't implement the UNIVERSAL dh between both leagues

2267
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 3: until a couple of years After Show Hail towny entered

2268
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 3: because there was a rumor that he was flirting with

2269
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 3: going To san Fran but of course then in The National.

2270
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 2: League doesn't everybody do that, Though and everybody they used

2271
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 2: us was talking To San. Francisco Iron judge was talking

2272
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 2: To San. FRANCISCO i Think jeter was.

2273
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 3: Back in like twenty. Eleven he used them to get

2274
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 3: more money out of the. Ache the ultimate leverage play,

2275
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 3: yeah and then nobody shows. It we got diverse and

2276
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 3: then went to a tail, span like literally as soon

2277
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 3: as you Signed Rafael. Devers it's honestly, unbelievable Uh Mark Mark.

2278
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 2: Ramsey can you think of any over a hyped or

2279
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 2: well well deserved hype debut for many, players college, pros anywhere?

2280
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 13: Else as the kids, say many many moons, ago there

2281
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 13: was a track and field star that you're gonna, know

2282
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 13: and he played For San. Francisco his name Is Ronaldo Nea.

2283
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 13: Maya oh, yeah so he was a great track. Star

2284
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 13: so it was very fast and so he could do

2285
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 13: that very. Well and somebody got the, idea maybe it was,

2286
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 13: him that maybe he could play football because he's so. Fast,

2287
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 13: well he got to THE, nfl and yes he could,

2288
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 13: run but the problem was he really wasn't good at catching.

2289
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 3: The past so and.

2290
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 2: Forth that was the part that made. It you, know

2291
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 2: he was in for eighty from eighty two to eighty.

2292
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 13: Five But Ronaldo neamyah was a big deal in my

2293
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 13: house because my sister thought he was good, looking so

2294
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 13: she wanted to See Ronaldo Nea mayah play. Football but

2295
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 13: he had his. Moment but because he couldn't catch as.

2296
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 13: Well that moment came and went away.

2297
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,600
Speaker 2: Fast, yeah many a player At fall victims to. That

2298
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,799
Speaker 2: Willie galt was a track guy turned into a football.

2299
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 2: Player James, JETT i was gonna go there formid. Great

2300
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 2: who wasn't so?

2301
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 3: Great Michael bates with The Carolina, panthers although they pretty

2302
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: much kept him on special teams as a return. SAVON

2303
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 3: i mean he was an incredible kick.

2304
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 2: Returner that's, Great that's the way to use. Him absolutely back.

2305
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 3: Then you, know kick returns were kind of. Important, Uh,

2306
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 3: bravery you got.

2307
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 9: SOMETHING i was Thinking Andrew wiggins in twenty, thirteen and

2308
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 9: specifically like where before he debuted in college of where

2309
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 9: he was going to go. To And i'm a Huge

2310
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 9: Tar heel, fan SO i was like praying AND i

2311
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 9: had like bets with some guys in. COLLEGE i wanted

2312
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 9: him to go to the Tar heels so, bad AND

2313
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 9: i obviously, lost SO i owed them like, lunch and

2314
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 9: that was really.

2315
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 3: Depressed, well you were betting On Maple, jordan not when

2316
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 3: he got drafted by The, cavaliers but where he ended

2317
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 3: up going to. College, yes that was a big. Deal

2318
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 3: it was a.

2319
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 9: Problem, YES i was betting in middle, SCHOOL i was

2320
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 9: betting ice cream sandwiches and pizza.

2321
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 12: Sticks, okay, yes BUT i was gambling. FOOD i mean

2322
01:47:59,000 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 12: it was a different.

2323
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 9: TIME i also Had Bryce harper in twenty twelve and

2324
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 9: his debut was against The.

2325
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 12: Dodgers and then.

2326
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 9: More recently BECAUSE i was working here and it was really,

2327
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 9: exciting was One Banyama Victor wembanyama his debut against The.

2328
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 9: Mavericks his uh he had three three pointers in the,

2329
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 9: loss and so it set The spur single game team

2330
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 9: record for a rookie in his. Debut finish off with fifteen,

2331
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 9: points five boards to, assist and two.

2332
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 3: Blocks what was Uh DeAndre aiden's stat line?

2333
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 2: Debut.

2334
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 9: Dairy, also going back to WHAT i thought was really

2335
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 9: interesting about the debut was the.

2336
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 12: Radio the broadcaster he would call the three pointer Of wemby.

2337
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 3: Tis like a Toa French, yes very very.

2338
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: Clever again is?

2339
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 9: It?

2340
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 3: Yeah we, yes it's.

2341
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 12: Great we have one more caller before we head into.

2342
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 2: Breeze three miss, vieho. Mischievieho, Benjamin oh, see, yes what's going?

2343
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 5: On that's?

2344
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 7: Me, Hey, Adam, Hey, Kevin, HEY i got a throwback

2345
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 7: of a type debut that really really worked out.

2346
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 10: If we could go back to nineteen, ninety.

2347
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 7: To the WW App survivor. Series do you guys remember that?

2348
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Debut whose debut are we thinking of at THE? Wfs

2349
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 2: give me the year AND i might be able to

2350
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 2: get you.

2351
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:21,440
Speaker 7: Nineteen Ninety survivor serious nineteen Ninety survivor SERIES wwe, Debut.

2352
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 3: Kevin you're a wrestling, expert far.

2353
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 2: Far from an. Expert, NO i THINK hbk was not

2354
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 2: a heartbreak.

2355
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 4: Kid, no The?

2356
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 2: Undertaker was it The? Undertaker? Yeah The undertaker debuted With

2357
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Brother love AND i think he was part of the

2358
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 2: Million Dollar man's team in The survivor. Series AM i?

2359
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Right does that.

2360
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 7: Kind of because remember they had that giant egg and

2361
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 7: there would have been that mystery character that popped out of,

2362
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 7: it and he was the.

2363
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 11: One he was the.

2364
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 2: One oh that's.

2365
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 3: Right how about When caine debuted his face? Finally if

2366
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 3: you were, like, yeah this wasn't that?

2367
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 2: Cool keep the ask on just To kine's debut And,

2368
01:49:58,120 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: benjamin thank you for. That that's a great. Call we

2369
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 2: could TALK. Wwf it's always gonna be THE wwf to,

2370
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 2: me called me, OLD i don't. Care it's always gonna

2371
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 2: be the Wrestling federation When caine made his debut at

2372
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 2: A Bad Blood Paper VIEW i believe In december of

2373
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 2: ninety seven And vince, McMahon the now Disgraced vince, McMahon

2374
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 2: that's gotta Be, kine and he comes in and rips

2375
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:17,600
Speaker 2: the door off the hell in the cell and He

2376
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 2: tombstone's The, undertaker And Shawn michaels, wins oh chills thinking about.

2377
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 3: That it was supposed to be some type of passing

2378
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 3: of the torch or like he's the new, big bad

2379
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 3: evil guy used to be The, Undertaker now It's, kine his.

2380
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 2: Brother The undertaker was a baby face at the, time

2381
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 2: So caine came in as a heel and they had

2382
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: a whole thing that culminated with the match At. WrestleMania,

2383
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 2: wait was.

2384
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 3: This the Motorcycle Western, undertaker BECAUSE i did not like that.

2385
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 2: Guy you're thinking of The american Badass. Undertaker that was

2386
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 2: many years later when he came in riding on A

2387
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 2: Harley american and it was more like. It AND i

2388
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't say it was A western you. Know he wasn't

2389
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 2: Like Clint eastwood or anything out. There it was more

2390
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 2: of like a biker gang, situation which was not his best. Gimmick,

2391
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 2: no when he went back to being the debtman much,

2392
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 2: later and at this POINT i stopped watching, it.

2393
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 3: But felt Like Hollywood hulk to. ME i didn't like that.

2394
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 2: Turn you didn't like The Hollywood Hulk. Olgan, oh that's

2395
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 2: one of the great Small i'll call out great moments

2396
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 2: and sports entertainment. History the formation of THE. nWo you

2397
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 2: didn't like. It that changed. Everything NOW i THE, nWo

2398
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 2: there would have been no degeneration next the Stone Cold

2399
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 2: Steve auston, situation and THE wwf probably never would have

2400
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 2: happened BECAUSE wcw was kicking their.

2401
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 3: BUTT i Liked hulk playing the. Guitar, okay that's The

2402
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 3: hulk THAT i.

2403
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 2: Like, yeah that was.

2404
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 12: Different Chris jerco's debut and.

2405
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 2: They made a whole big. Deal they had a whole

2406
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 2: countdown clock for like a month or something like that back,

2407
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 2: then and he debuted and talked for like fifteen straight,

2408
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 2: minutes and Then The rock basically, said who the hell are?

2409
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 2: You shut the hell up and get all get out

2410
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 2: of my.

2411
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 3: RING i think you Know i'm not the wrestling. GUY

2412
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 3: i played more of the video. Games that's HOW i

2413
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 3: got To nogan when did Gold dust? Debut was that

2414
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 3: a big deal BECAUSE i didn't have no idea who

2415
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 3: this guy was WHEN i was PLAYING wwf War.

2416
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 2: Zone, yeah the son of the Great Dusty rhodes Gold

2417
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 2: dust sometime in the mid, NINETIES i don't remember, exactly

2418
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 2: and he was hyped up as This Holly he was

2419
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 2: supposed to be like A hollywood, actor this overly dramatic

2420
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 2: actor with gold. Hair and you, know his wife was

2421
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be like his assistant or. Whatever she sat

2422
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 2: in an actor's. Chair so that's what the whole role

2423
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 2: was supposed to. Be and he was very, flamboyant for

2424
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 2: lack of a better term at the, time turned a

2425
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 2: lot of people off a lot of. Glitter, yeah it was.

2426
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 3: Different, uh we got somebody here poles Ring pole in

2427
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 3: the pole position in first your first, Up?

2428
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 2: Arkansas who picks?

2429
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:39,599
Speaker 1: Up what's going?

2430
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 11: On how About johnny Manzil?

2431
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah WELL i feel like they are with the wasn't.

2432
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 11: The, best very heavily and it didn't work out.

2433
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: So, well, well oh it.

2434
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 3: Didn't he was heavily, hyped especially from one, Person oh

2435
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 3: here we, go who actually made the statement made the

2436
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 3: state That Johnny manzil will be bigger In cleveland Then

2437
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 3: Lebron james ever was that would be mister one point

2438
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 3: For skip baylest that was actually uttered old takes exposed.

2439
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 7: Forever, WELL i used to live in The dallas area

2440
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:18,719
Speaker 7: when You skip was at The Dallas Morning.

2441
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 3: News i'm, Sorry, YEAH i was, too believe, me we all. Were,

2442
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 3: Well i'm sure he was much more serious then and

2443
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 3: not just being a hot take artist and actually believed

2444
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 3: some of the things that he. Said PROBABLY.

2445
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 10: I hope he believe him because none of the rest

2446
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 10: of us skip.

2447
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,679
Speaker 2: Exactly, no that's a good. Pull that's a good poll.

2448
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: Poll thank you, man appreciate. That, yeah talk About Johnny

2449
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,559
Speaker 2: manziel was so much. HIGH i mean people were talking

2450
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 2: about him being the first overall pick in the draft

2451
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 2: by The Cleveland.

2452
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 3: Browns and we didn't know about all the issues off

2453
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 3: the field of that.

2454
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:54,679
Speaker 2: Time, no we just knew he was a phenomenal player

2455
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 2: who just ran a rough shot Over Nick saban's defense

2456
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 2: when they were at their. Height this was like it

2457
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 2: was a terrible defense or. Anything he just sliced them

2458
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 2: and diced.

2459
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:03,440
Speaker 3: THEM qb bootlegs all over the falls.

2460
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 2: Way to A Heisman trophy and obviously his off field

2461
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,879
Speaker 2: issues and he could not overcome. Them let's go To, Boston,

2462
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 2: andrew what's going? On what's?

2463
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 8: Up what's? UP i actually wanted to Say undertaker. Too

2464
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 8: i'm forty, Now so nineteen NINETY i was five years

2465
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 8: old and The undertaker came out and H koga was

2466
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 8: my favorite, guy AND i just remembered that's, like that's

2467
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 8: the first memory of, mine like crying and being scared

2468
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 8: out of my mind because he was just such a scary.

2469
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:39,839
Speaker 8: Man and also just In boston back in early, nineties

2470
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 8: Like Tyson dave doing IN wwe and then Doing WrestleMania

2471
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 8: And boston and it really changing the trajectory of the

2472
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 8: next ten.

2473
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 2: Years it was.

2474
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 11: Crazy thank, You.

2475
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 2: Andrew, yeah that's a good. Call Mike tyson was called

2476
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 2: upon to be a big marquee attraction At WrestleMania.

2477
01:54:57,240 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 3: Fourteen his fake punches were. Legendary, yeah and.

2478
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 2: They, uh this was in the midst of The Monday

2479
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 2: Night wars BETWEEN wcw AND wwf AND i forget what

2480
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 2: documentary it, was But Eric bischoff when he, said WHEN

2481
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: i found out That Mike tyson was going to be

2482
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 2: part of the main event At. WrestleMania i knew that

2483
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: we were, done OR i knew that the end was

2484
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 2: near and we couldn't. Match it wasn't When, OKAY i

2485
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 2: was gonna, say apparently master p and The Rough riders

2486
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 2: are who are teaming up and doing stuff AT wcw couldn't.

2487
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 3: Match masterpiece and make them say oh oh, no, no no.

2488
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 3: NO i do remember distinctly being a kid and also

2489
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 3: being scared of The undertaker because of his music and

2490
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 3: because he Put hulk in a pile driver on top

2491
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 3: of a steel. Chair, yes and to, ME i was

2492
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 3: still young enough to believe In Santa, claus SO i

2493
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 3: definitely believe wrestling was. Real AND i thought The holster

2494
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 3: was dead or.

2495
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 2: Something, no he was, not, Obviously, okay AND i at

2496
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 2: The No Limit, SOLDIERS i said The Rough. RIDERS i

2497
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 2: don't know WHY i said. THAT dmx No wrong crew.

2498
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 3: Now coming, Up oh on our crew here on f

2499
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 3: AND a ON, fsr we will Have breeze. Three it

2500
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 3: Is Fox Sports. Saturday I'm Adam. Ouslin He's Kevin. Figures

2501
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 3: you are listening To Fox Sports.

2502
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 2: Radio back your final segment Of Fox Sports. Saturday Kevin.

2503
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,720
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2504
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,720
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2505
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:24,280
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2506
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,680
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2507
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,800
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2508
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,200
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2509
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,880
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2510
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,680
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2511
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 2: right here On Fox Sports radio and THE I Heart.

2512
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 3: App before we get out of, here we got to

2513
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 3: get TO i guess some people's favorite, segment not, mine

2514
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 3: but it's pretty. Good let's do, it.

2515
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 5: Not, one not, two but. Three it's.

2516
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: Entertainment it's. Good it's breeze.

2517
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 12: Three all, right.

2518
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 9: Guys, So Travis, Kelsey Taylor swift, Engage Jordan hudson and

2519
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 9: Uh Bill belichick whatever that? Relationship creepy grandfather granddaughter?

2520
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 12: Anyway what are they?

2521
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 2: Trademarking daddy? Issues is that The?

2522
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 3: Sorry that's kind of funny because if he's trademarking, it

2523
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 3: does that mean he's also digging for gold by making

2524
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 3: money off of her being a gold Digger is.

2525
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 12: It that sounds very NSF w but.

2526
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 9: Whatever, Okay so, anyways let's talk about so like relationships

2527
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 9: in the world of sports and entertainment that kind of

2528
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 9: did like a little crossover like in, between like you

2529
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 9: know that got. Together SO i just remember Completely Jessica

2530
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 9: simpson And Tony, romo LIKE i was like in the pink,

2531
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 9: jersey the pink, jersey she was up, there just you,

2532
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 9: know it just looked a lot more genuine or less

2533
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 9: genuine than Like Taylor swift And Travis. KELCEY i don't,

2534
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 9: know looking, Back sierra And Russell. Wilson that was kind

2535
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 9: of like a huge power. Couple do we Think Russell

2536
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 9: wilson's play went.

2537
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 12: Down after he?

2538
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 2: Started are you doing.

2539
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 3: Trying to a little bit with those?

2540
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 2: Two?

2541
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 12: Yeah with those two, ESPECIALLY i am not gonna.

2542
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 9: Lie and then the other one Was Chris humphries And, Kardashian,

2543
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 9: yeah exactly because they were married like five.

2544
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 2: Seconds, Wait chris was With Kim, kardashian wasn't?

2545
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 12: He yeah WHAT i, say you, Said? Chloe, okay BECAUSE

2546
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 12: i was, yeah, okay, YEAH i had both of them

2547
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 12: side by.

2548
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 3: Side you're gonna have to get real specific when it

2549
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 3: comes to.

2550
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 2: Athletes Because chloe is all again off against situation With Tristan,

2551
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 2: thompson which she might still be with. HIM i don't even.

2552
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 12: Know they have like seven kids. Together, yeah so those

2553
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 12: were those were my Three Mark.

2554
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 3: Europe so the first WHEN i thought of Is Kate

2555
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 3: upton and The pitch Of.

2556
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 13: Verlander, yep so that's, one and then another one Is

2557
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 13: Carrie underwood And Mike fisher got The, predator and another

2558
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 13: One Andre agacy And Steffie groff's per, coupling and then

2559
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 13: another one just to make it another one past that

2560
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 13: is A Mia hamm And No min' still going.

2561
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 2: Strong they are love it, Absolutely, adam all.

2562
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 3: Right one of mine was like two ships passing in the.

2563
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 3: Night it almost. Happened Petros papadakus And angeline And.

2564
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 2: Jolie, hey, okay.

2565
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 3: Look he's told the story on air many. Times i'm

2566
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 3: not telling stories out of school. Here she was into

2567
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 3: him at A usc practice because she heard he was

2568
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 3: dark and she was into that type of, stuff and

2569
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 3: maybe he painted his nails black or something and was.

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Speaker 3: Goth Angelia jolie made a runner at, him And i'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure the story goes he didn't give her his,

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Speaker 3: Prime she's about to do the first Tomb. Raider that's

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Speaker 3: one of. Them so it didn't actually end up. Happening

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Speaker 3: uh they're about to have their fourth. Kid, YEP i

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Speaker 3: can be your hero baby now they're having. There, yeah

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Speaker 3: they're still. Going. Uh he put her in the music

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Speaker 3: Video escape back in the. Day and then, Lastly Dennis

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Speaker 3: rodman And Dennis, RODMAN.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna, say, yeah that's.

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Speaker 3: Right that's when he dated himself and married her himself

2583
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 3: as a publicity stunt for his. Book so there's my.

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Speaker 2: Three, YES i did Have Dennis robin And madonna bres

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Speaker 2: one of, mine which is one of the more. BIZARRE

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Speaker 2: i didn't know. This dennis apparently Said madonna offered him

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Speaker 2: twenty million dollars so he can impregnate. Her, now it didn't,

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02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 2: happen but it wasn't for lack of. Trying from WHAT i,

2589
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Speaker 2: understand she wanted a good. REBOUNDER i guess.

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Speaker 2: something differently That i'm not going to talk. About you

2595
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 2: guys can google it if you want.

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Speaker 3: To but you watch The hulu. SHOW i thought it

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Speaker 3: was pretty.

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Speaker 2: GOOD i did not know there was A hulu show

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Speaker 2: air which is not too long from. Now, adam did

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Speaker 2: you get all years in all?

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Speaker 3: THREE i, did all. RIGHT i guess we got to

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Speaker 3: thank everybody now, then, YES i Guess bree for her

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Speaker 3: big three Here breeze Three bri, Producer bree Bre. Bri

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Speaker 3: Mark you're the chairman of the board for a, reason

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Speaker 3: and of course the boss Man Scott shapiro.

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