1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, how old are you sixty nine at this 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: point in the game, can you afford a twenty hellcap? 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Go by it, brother and just enjoy it. Well down 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: the road at a the Car Doctor. Did you ever 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: watch the Tonight Show as a kid? Well, and then 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: again you were probably old enough to step and watch it. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Because you're old. Listen to the selling Apple dog food next. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Remember that Welcome to the radio home of ron Andanian 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage doors are open, 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: five five five six. And now he running all right, 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: wants to do this our run an Indian car doctorate 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: your service. Let's get right to the phones. Go talk 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: to Walter in Maui, Hawaii. Walter, welcome aboard, So glad 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: you got through? What's going on? Hey? Good more in 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Ronald P. Because it's not morning there. Uh my problem 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: is it's a two thousand five Chryster Voyager and the 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: trip L A D and the radio L a d 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: are blinking. They don't go they go like from dim 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: to bright for no particular reason. And uh, and I 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: think that I think there's some sort of drain on 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: the battery too because of it. But I don't even 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: know where to start looking for that bad problem. Well, 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: so let let's back up. First of all, this isn't 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: a Voyager. This has to be a town and Country. 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: They didn't make Plymouth Plumouth. They didn't make a two 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: thousand five Plumouth Voyager. You're talking must have misspoken. It's 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: a Chrysler. It's a Chrysler's well, is it a Chrysler 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Voyager or a Chrysler town and Country? Walt, No, it's 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: definitely a Chrysler Voyager two thousand five Chryster Voyager lt. Okay, 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: this is a mini that make one? Because I got 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: one in the driveway, and and and it's a minivan, 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Yes it is. It looks just like the towning Country, 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: so it's got to be a submodel of it. So 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: is the problem? Does the problem happen all the time? 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: Since it's starry, which I just noticed is like a 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, it's all the time, all right? 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: So then The next question is if you put a 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: meter on there and measure uh drain on the system, 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: where's the battery drain go to? Are you talking about 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: doing like a parasite drawing? Do a parasitic draw test? 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: What do you come up with? Okay, so far, I've 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: done nothing except to be curious about what this is. Okay, Well, 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: because my concern is, you know, I would obviously we're 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna look at battery terminals, grounds, the usual suspects stuff, 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: especially on something almost twenty years old. But I just 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: want to know is the drain really there? Is that 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: is the instrument cluster flashing, key out in your pocket 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: and then the battery goes dead or you're just assuming 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: that it's connected to the cluster flashing because the battery 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: happens to go dead. Okay, I what I know for 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: sure is that when the key is on, are the 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: engines running? Just those two l eds, the one that's 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: on the radio for the time on the radio and 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: the one that's on the mileage for the car are 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: blinking and like I say, don't go one and off 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: they go from dim the bright, dim the bright, and 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: they also are sync with the turn signal. When I 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: turned the turns to the one they like. When the 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: flasher clicks, they get bright and get it right. Then them, Well, 64 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: because it sounds to me, how do you know you 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: don't have a bad cluster? How do you know you 66 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: have a problem in the cluster itself? I don't know that. 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: So the only thing, the only thing that would is 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: curious about that is the the light in the cluster 69 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: works fine, and it doesn't blink, you know, and you 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: have the headlights on and it doesn't do anything except 71 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: do what it's supposed to. So why don't we go 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: measure see if there's a battery drain because the battery 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: is going dead right? Yeah, that that happened where when 74 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: I suspect his wife said the card kind of almost 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: didn't start when she was at the market, and uh 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I went and checked and it was down to like 77 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: eleven I don't know, eleven point two or three volts 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: or something like that, and said, gee, that's weird, and 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: so I charged it, and then uh I checked it 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: the next day and that's when I noticed this this 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: flashing of the lights. Okay, have you checked the alternator output? No? Okay, 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: so let's go. I was just so puzzled by this, 83 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: I decided to wait for you before I started. Well, listen, 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: don't get don't get fascinated by the symptoms. Attack it 85 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: like you would anything else. Stop looking for what's broken. 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: Tell me what's good. Right, does the alternator charge? Does 87 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: it have any diode issues? How are the battery terminals? 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: And you know positive negative? And grounds and cleanliness, the 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: usual stuff, the usual things I've always told you, right, 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously, I mean you want to 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: go try and scan it for codes, just to see 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: what's there. I don't think you're gonna see anything. You've 93 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: only got an O B D two scanner. I'd be 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: curious to see. Yeah, if there's no coach, but you're 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: looking at O B D two, I'd love to see 96 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: something your Make model. Here's a case we're going in 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: your Make model to look to see. Do you have 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: body computer issues? Do you have body computer conversations going on? 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Is there a communication fault? But you know, let's cover 100 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the basics, and then my last comment would be if 101 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: the charging system is good, if the battery passes a 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: load test, what's the drain And if there is a drain, 103 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: what fuse do you pull to get rid of the drain. 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: Is it related to the cluster if you look at 105 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: the fuse circuit coming back through a wiring diagram or 106 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: is it a totally different circuit that's at faultier and 107 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: you've got two problems. Gee, wouldn't that wouldn't that be 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: your look? Right? Yeah, that's that's why you know, you're 109 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know what the problem is, Walt, And 110 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: I say this with love. You've already got a diagnosed 111 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: in your head and you're afraid to pull the trigger, 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: go do something. Yeah, that's part of it. That's part 113 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: of it. Just seems so strange. I just haven't run 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: across anything like that. Well guess what I say that 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: half a dozen times a week a lot of times. Right, 116 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: don't don't analyze it from the kitchen table, Go work 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: on it. You know what I'm saying, You've got you're 118 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: you're having diagnostic constipation. Go, uh, you know, go go 119 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: start to tell me what's good. Listen, I will literally 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: take a headache vehicle. All right, I've gotta I've gotta. 121 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a fourteen or fifteen Silverado that it's 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: sitting for me at the shop this week. I'm gonna 123 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: start on Monday and get back into it Monday that 124 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: the cruise control cuts out, the break light stop working, 125 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: the instrument cluster blinks, and the A C turns off 126 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: like once every third day. Where am I going here? Yeah? 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: It's jack the radiator, check the radiator cap up and 128 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: drive a new truck underneath. But you know, I'm gonna 129 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: sit down with a yellow note pad and I'm gonna 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: go through my procedures. I'm gonna in fifteen twenty minutes 131 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: what I want to attack. I'm gonna spend another forty 132 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: five minutes reading bulletins and pattern failures, and then I'm 133 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna go attack it and do what I gotta do. 134 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: But you know you can't sit here. Don't let it 135 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: scare it. It's only a broken car. When it was new, 136 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: it was perfect. Drive it from there, all right? Okay? 137 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Any chance to getting two nickel? Nickel go? Okay? The 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: second one is camera. The kai beams won't come on. 139 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: The what you can pull when you pull the multiple 140 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: multiple you know the turn signal, Uh, they'll flat. You know, 141 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: you can get them to come on, but when you 142 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: push it to turn them one so they'll stay on. 143 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: Nothing happens. What makes you think you don't have a 144 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: bad switch. I do think I have a bad switch 145 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: because I checked all the fuses and all the relays 146 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: and everything else is good, and I wasn't quite sure 147 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: how to diagnose that without taking the whole switch apart. First. Well, 148 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't take the switch apart. I would get a 149 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: wiring diagram and im and you know the connector down 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: at the base of the column where that where it 151 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: comes down in a part. Yeah, find the colors and 152 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: pull it into high beam position. If you've got power 153 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: on that wire when you pull it into position, and 154 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: you don't when you release it, and the switch is 155 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: supposed to have power, you just might have a failed 156 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: mechanical portion of the switch, so to speak. Yeah, that okay, 157 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Well we're in agreement on that. I think what I'll 158 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: do is I'll use my power probe on that light 159 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: and if the bright lights come on, you know, from 160 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: the bottom of of the connection at the bottom of 161 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: the stirring column, I'll know what that that's the switch, right, 162 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: It's it's that the switch is right. The switch is 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: basically keeping you from holding the high beams on. And 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: that's that's what it sounds like to me. But again, 165 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: where's my wire colors? And you're stuck at the kitchen 166 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: table again? Walter sokay, all right, thanks a lot, run 167 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: I really appreciate welcome you guys. Have a good time 168 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: back there, and stay healthy you too, be well. I'll 169 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Take aloha bye bye. Um. Yeah, 170 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: don't be afraid to take something apart, folks, you know 171 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: what cover the basics. If you think you're getting into 172 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: something detailed, don't be ashamed to write it down. I 173 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: write things down all the time. All right. There's a 174 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: there's a quote from Einstein, uh to paraphrase that goes 175 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: something like, don't be afraid to do research. If you 176 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: think you have problems, imagine what my research time is like. 177 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: And he discusses it at length, and what he's basically 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: saying is, don't be afraid to admit you have to 179 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: do research. Don't be afraid to admit you have to 180 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: write something down. We all have our issues and it 181 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: helps keeps us on the straight and narrow. Um. I 182 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: used to have that hanging up over the doorway to 183 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: the shop, but customers kind of got rattled by it. 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: They thought I was out of my mind, so I 185 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: took it down zero zero. I'm coming back right after this. 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Don't go away, whether it's a little red Corvette or 187 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: you go. You've come to the right place to get 188 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: that car fixed. Ron and Ay in the car doctor 189 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero. Now back to on. Hey, let's 190 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: get out over and talk to Miriam in Michigan eleven 191 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: Chevy Equinox. I'm merriam ran Any at your service. How 192 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: can I help? Thank you so much for taking my call. 193 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Car doctor. UM, I'm hoping you can help me. This 194 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: will be the third time I have an appointment Monday 195 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: taking it back to the dealer. And my engine light 196 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: comes on, uh intermittently, um sometimes to stabilizer track flight, 197 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: and there's really no rhyme or reason to it. I 198 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: mean like sometimes it'll be on first thing when I started. 199 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's fine, like today, I go out, no problem, 200 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: engine light off. It's spin off and I've driven it 201 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: probably close to an hour nothing and then all of 202 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: a sudden it'll just turn back on. Have have they 203 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, have they they have no idea? I mean 204 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: what they're just telling you they can't find a problem. Yes, 205 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: well they do have an idea. UM, I don't, I 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: don't want to talk too much. There's there's a lot 207 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: a little bit going on here. The last time that 208 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: I picked it up, UM it was. They told me 209 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: it was the code P zero three six five UM. 210 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: And UM. The when I had brought it in, there 211 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: were four coats that were showing, and so they recommended 212 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: that they changed a computer, which that's what they did 213 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: the last time it was there. They changed the computer 214 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: and they felt that that should take care of it. Well, 215 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: not even two weeks later, the engine light was back 216 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: on alright. Well, P zero three six five is related 217 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: to camp position censor for bank one. What are the 218 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: other codes that are coming on? UM? Now that it's 219 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: not on my receipt UM, the P zero three three 220 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: five is on their UM, but the other two. He 221 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: just told me that there were four codes that came 222 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: up which shouldn't come up together, and that's why they 223 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: felt the least expensive way was to go ahead and 224 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: replace the computer, which they did, and they felt that 225 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that should take care of it. UM. Oh boy, is 226 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: this going to be a conversation Monday morning? How many miles? 227 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: How many miles on this car? Miriam? Uh, it's seven five. 228 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: I just purchased it in March from them. No, no, 229 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: not from them, not from them. Um and and all right, 230 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: the said the sad The sad part is that is 231 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: warranty on PCMs. But you're probably out by time as well. 232 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: So listen, I'm sorry. Eight is what we Most PCMs 233 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: were warrantied eight years, eighty thousand miles. But since this 234 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: is a two thousand, since this is an eleven, it's 235 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: out by time because it's ten years old. Uh all right, 236 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: because they probably didn't warranty the PCM, right, I'm sure 237 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: they just they charged you for it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 238 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: But this was, like I said, this is that was 239 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: the second time I have brought it in the first 240 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: time shortly after I bought it, they had to replace 241 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: the top part of the engine, is what they told me. 242 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I don't have that receipt in front 243 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: of me. My my son has that one. But they 244 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: replaced the top part of the engine and and that 245 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: was that included. I know the cam shaft because I 246 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: remember him saying that they had replaced the camshaft. So wait, 247 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: let's let's let's back up this. This this car had 248 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: its first problem when and what was the what was 249 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: the original problem? The original problem, um was the I 250 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: went out in the morning to start it up, had 251 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: not hadn't had any problems with it, had had it 252 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: for about two or three weeks, no problems, and it 253 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't start. It was just really really rough and rolling 254 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: and and shaking and like, oh my god. So I 255 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: shut it off and then I waited and and then 256 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: I tried it again, the same thing. It's sputtering and 257 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: hesitating and stuttering and um. And then the lights saw 258 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: the ECO light was on. Then that has not come 259 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: back on. The Eco lights, stabilizer light, the engine light. Okay, 260 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: it sounds to me and take a breath, Okay. In 261 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: thirty one years, I've never lost anybody. I don't want 262 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: to start now. Um, but it sounds to me like 263 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: your original repair is now generating this next problem. If 264 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: that makes sense. It does. My son said that, because well, so, 265 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: so let's let's think of it like this. Let's talk 266 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: about bicycles. Alright. Bicycle's got a big sprocket and a 267 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: little sprocket right, and a chain in between it. All right, 268 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: If you wanted to know when a certain link you know. 269 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Let's say you painted two links, one red, one white. 270 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: You painted the red one when it was at the 271 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: top of the big sprocket, and you painted the white 272 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: one when it was at the top of the little sprocket. 273 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: If you wanted to know every time those links came 274 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: around and the red link came up top, if this 275 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: was a car and a computer and an engineer, you'd 276 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: put a sensor there right in the sensor would see 277 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: red white, red white, red white makes sense. So exhaust 278 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: valve intake, valve, red white, exhaust intake doesn't matter. They're 279 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: still using sensors to tell position. They need to know 280 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: link position because that link position refers to sprock a 281 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: position refers to crank and cam shift position makes sense 282 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: so far it does. If you're telling me they put 283 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: a top end of an engine on this car, and 284 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure that was five or six grand, it was 285 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: a lot more than that. Okay, all right, did they 286 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: do a whole engineer, did they just do a top end? No, 287 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: he said the top just the top part. So your 288 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: your question to him has to be listened. Since the 289 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: progression was we started out with a problem engine, and 290 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, and you can look at him and say, hey, listen, 291 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: cam cam sprockets and camp sprockets and sensors were involved 292 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: in that repair. Why can't it be something related to 293 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: that repair causing a problem. See what he says? Okay, 294 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: all right, I will I will do that. Do you 295 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: have any idea what what could be going on? Well, 296 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: the way I would at tank this is i'd clear codes, 297 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: drive at what code comes back first? All right? It's 298 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: it almost sounds to me and I'd be curious. This 299 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: has to be a V six or this is a 300 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: fourth cylinder cylinder? Okay, so this is a fourth cylinder. Um, 301 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: it almost sounds to me. If this is the fourth cylinder, 302 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, do they have a chain stretch issue or 303 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: did they put a chain in it that I don't know. 304 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: I wish I had the first receipt in front of me. Yeah, 305 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: because there are there are ways to diagnose this, and 306 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: it involves This is a case where I would want 307 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: to see a lampscope work because I want to see 308 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: some exact timing marks in reference electrically how they display. 309 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: But you know what, I think these guys are poking 310 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: and hoping. It's time to talk to the service manager. 311 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: It's time to talk to the lead tech and say, guys, 312 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: I brought you my car in good faith. Here's what 313 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: you did. I need you to do more. Fix it 314 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: like it was your mom's car. Call me back next week. 315 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: Let me know what they say. We can chat again. Miriam, 316 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: good luck. I'm right an Amy in the car doctor. 317 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm coming back right after this welcome back where I'm 318 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: naming the car doctor. Let's get over to den in Florida. 319 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: Don and Florida. Don, what part of Florida? I was 320 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: just there? Lakeland, Lakeland, Florida. Where's that in relation to 321 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: Marco Island? I think you're I think you're north and 322 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: east of me, right, yes, Uh, it's about five hour 323 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: drive down to from Lakeland to uh Mark Island. Mark 324 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: Island is a very beautiful place, a very expensive place. Yeah, 325 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: so I found out, uh you know it was. I'll 326 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: tell you what it was. The water was. But don't 327 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: go out on the gulf on a sea. Do there's 328 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: a problem there? Um, you know, there was a whole 329 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: another event of the tide. To say again, we also 330 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: have the red tide in existence right now, very bad. 331 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: What's the red tide? It's Uh, it's a like a 332 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: fungus goes into the water. They release some of this 333 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: phosphate water reserve they held lake. It broke through and 334 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: they added draining into the lake into Tampa Bay and 335 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: it's caused many tons of fish dye and you can't 336 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: go near the water. So so it's it's h it's 337 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: messed up. It's messed up tourists for that area anyway. Well, listen, 338 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: electric cars are gonna fix everything. How can I help 339 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: you in your truck today? I have a two fifty 340 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: two thousand two UH diesel. Uh. I've had three alternators, 341 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: put in six batteries and UH it finally came back 342 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: to the alternator. And then I have the suicide doors 343 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: like a cab and a half. One one broke and 344 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: I can't open it. And within a month the second 345 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: one broke. And this truck looks like his brand new. 346 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: I have seventy three thousand miles on it. I've called 347 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: forward Board says they don't know anything about it. They 348 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: gave me the the you know, the short stick, and 349 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: UH to get a kit cough. It is two d 350 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: fifty dollars for Ford to fix it and other mechanics, 351 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: five dollars a copy, and uh, I looked at the 352 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: video on it. You've got to be able to stand 353 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: on your head, have a have a light on your 354 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: head and be am a dextrous to be able to 355 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: get the the cod the cable to fix it right, 356 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: all this little plastic things you're you're talking about in 357 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: reference to the doors, because it's it's not the it's 358 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: not the door. It's the door mechanism that causes the 359 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: door to open and stay open and then you close 360 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: it with a little bit of tension. Correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 361 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Have you have you talked door handles? Door 362 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: handles are right inside the inside the door. Have you 363 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: talked to a body shop at all? I have five 364 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: dollars a copy, fives to fix it and uh forward 365 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: once two d fifty dollars for the kid and uh 366 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: the one video I saw was they repaired it with 367 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: a bicycle cable. But from what I saw, you'd have 368 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: to be a contortionist to get in there in the 369 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: door and do work on it. Well, let me say 370 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: it like this, are you mechanically inclined? I am? Okay, 371 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: what did you do for a living before you retired. 372 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: I worked and as doing breaks, reshooting birds when they 373 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: had shoes and asbestos and all that stuff. And uh, 374 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: I was a grease jockey. I did everything I could 375 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: in a in a shop that uh and I got 376 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: my education that way. So let me let me let 377 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: me ask the question this way. Then the truck's already broken, right, yes, 378 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: how much worse can you make it? I don't think 379 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: I other than the door fly open staying open. And 380 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: now I think, listen, I think if if, if you 381 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: can follow, and obviously this is like doing breaks. I'll 382 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: take your right home again. Okay. I would take one 383 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: side apart. I would take both interior door panels off, 384 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: and I would you know, I'm a I'm a neat freak. 385 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: I would organize my screws so that you know, this 386 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: goes here, this goes there, so on and so forth. 387 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: I would keep the left to the left, the right 388 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: to the right. I would take both door panels off 389 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: so that you could use one is reference and then 390 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: slowly work and take the other one apart. Right. Um, 391 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: headlight flashlights are cheap bucks on Amazon. Uh, you know, 392 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: I see them all the time. And some of the 393 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's there just makes life so 394 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: much easier. I've got a couple of I probably got 395 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: two or three hanging around the shop that I use 396 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: all the time. I tend to throw flashlights out like 397 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, just like like shop rags, because you know, 398 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: you just you just get to that point where you 399 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: can't have enough flashlights in a day sometimes it seems 400 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: um and that solves that. So I think that's just 401 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: a matter of nuts and bolts, and you know, let's 402 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: not over animal I ever come across this well. In 403 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: all honesty, the O two is in. The O three's 404 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: by me. I was working on those ten years ago. 405 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: They're all gone now. You gotta remember it's New Jersey. 406 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: Salt and corrosion. All those vehicles are done. My families 407 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: from Clinton and Okay, so you know where I'm talking. 408 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, as a matter of fact, I think there's 409 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: still salt on the road from the list No storm 410 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: we had in December because they put so much down. 411 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's retired from Long Island. So I know 412 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: what you're talking. You know what I'm talking about. You know, 413 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: it's it's cables, it's connections. You're gonna twist and contort 414 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: the switch. If you have to take the door latch out, 415 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: the switch for the door latch is gonna be a 416 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: pain in the neck. And while you're in there, if 417 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: you're taking the latch out, the door a jar switch, 418 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: if there is one, I don't remember if there is 419 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: one in the suicide door. I think the door jar 420 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: switch is in the front doors itself, not the suicide Okay, 421 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: then then it's at that point I think it's nuts 422 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: and bolts. Baby, Hey, you can't break it anymore than 423 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: it's broken. The worst that happens is you're gonna take 424 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: it to a body shop with your tail between your legs. 425 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: But you're gonna be proud of the fact that you 426 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: tried and see what happens. Let's talk about the alternator. 427 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the alternator. So the alternator right 428 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: now doesn't charge. No I have, I've I've fixed that. 429 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: But it took me three alternators to do it. I 430 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: got two new alternators. They said they were good, they 431 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: didn't they didn't charge, and I finally got a fourth one. 432 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: I kept one as is fair and it's fine now, 433 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: but I three A's was getting discussing with me. They 434 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: lowered my mileage, so I couldn't go very far. They 435 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: couldn't tell me very far. Right, right? I want to 436 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: ask the one other question on a diesel um the 437 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: synthetic oil. Is it advisable or non advisable? If it's 438 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: rated for diesel, yes, if it's not, no, I've seen 439 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: synthetic diesel oil, but you want it. It has to 440 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: have the right um additive package to withstand diesel. Diesel 441 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: oil is very specific. Anything else is a folly and 442 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: it's going to result in you know, engine damage. So 443 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: just make sure you want to run synthetic go ahead, 444 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: Just make sure it's it. It'll be worthwhile, absolutely, okay, Um, 445 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: but just make sure it's diesel rated. All right, okay, 446 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: take it. You're very welcome, sir. Anytime you'd be well, 447 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: you'd be well zero zero. Will you feel for people? Right? 448 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: My god? If he took that into the dealer, it's 449 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: to fix two doors on a twenty year old vehicle, 450 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: But to go out and replace that vehicle is with 451 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: a diesel today is nine grand. That's okay. Electric fields 452 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: are going to fix everything. I think that's the answer, Tom. 453 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: I just have to assume electric vehicles will fix everything. 454 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Repeat after me. Um, I'll be back right after this. Yeah, 455 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're on eating the card Doctor zero. By 456 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: the way, I should point out that eight five five 457 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero number will be in effect 458 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. That phone is gonna be turned on between 459 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: the hours of seven and nine Eastern time eight five 460 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero for a 461 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: special tape delayed show. We're gonna be taping the show 462 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: Tuesday night this week coming August. What is that August tent? 463 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: I think tom uh is Tuesday, August tent between the 464 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: hours of seven and nine East Coast time, eight five 465 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero, taking questions, answering your calls, 466 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: and getting ready for next weekend. It's August and Tom. 467 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: I've given Tom the day off and I've decided to 468 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: take it as well, for a variety of reasons, none 469 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: of which Tom is gonna get to mention in the 470 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: next twenty minutes. So but Tom knows why be birthday. Okay, 471 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones. You do realize there's 472 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: an open coming up. Yeah, I'm sure there's an open 473 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah, but I'm thirty nine again me and 474 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: Jack Benny. Yeah, yeah, sure, it is. So let's go 475 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: a Dan in Washington State elevan Honda fit. Are you 476 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: having a fit with your fit? Daniel? How can I help? No, 477 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm not really actually, Uh, it's really causing a problem. 478 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Curious if it was normal, because I understand that the 479 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: electric fans for the cooling system would kick on too 480 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: cool the car cool the cooling system right when it 481 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: starts getting to a certain point. But I've noticed had 482 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: this car, I turned the thing on even when cold, 483 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: even in the winter, and literally within five seconds and 484 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm starting the car, the fan comes on and the 485 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: cycles on for packings, and the pycles off and the 486 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: pycle on. It's like, yes, you think you'd wear that 487 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: thing out, but it hasn't. But it's like, why is 488 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: it coming on when it's not obviously about hot? Do 489 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: you do you have the defroster on? Uh? No? Like 490 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: will I don't know. I guess in the winter I 491 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: probably would, But because if you don't, if you have 492 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: the defroster on, that will psych old the fans when 493 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: the a C comes on, because they'll run cooling fans 494 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: to maintain and keep low low temperature across the condenser. 495 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: Because you're actually running the C as part of the 496 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: defrost to keep the moisture out of the system. Take 497 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: the moisture out of the system now starting at cult, 498 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: go out there and start to turn off the A 499 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: C and make sure everything is off, started up, turn 500 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: the fans on. To my knowledge everyone I've ever seen, 501 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: the fans don't runtil it comes up to a certain 502 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: temperature or unless you've got a C on and it's 503 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: going to prevent high condenser UH pressures high system pressure 504 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: going over four h p s I and it will 505 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: turn the fans on to help lower it down and 506 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: cool it, vehicle everything in an accident. No, you're the 507 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: original owner. Um No, well that's true. I'm not the 508 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: original owners, so maybe there was at some point in 509 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: the past. Um. But does it yeah, it does it 510 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: in the middle, I mean it does it no matter 511 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: what does it? Does it does it look like Does 512 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: it look like the original fan assembly? Dan? Yeah? Nothing, 513 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: nothing looks out of the ordinary. You want to just 514 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: for giggles, go start it and take a water hose 515 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: and gently spray water into the fan. Make sure the 516 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: fans are pulling the water towards the engine and not 517 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: pushing it away, just to make sure, just to make 518 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: sure the fans are turning in the right direction. I've 519 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: seen guys wire them backwards and cause all kinds of strange, convoluted, twisted. Yeah, 520 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've never had a problem with it. Overheating. 521 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: I've never had a problem with it. You know, I've 522 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: never had any problem with it. It just seems That's 523 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: why it's more of a curiosity question. It seems like 524 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: it just comes on every no matter rain or shine, summer, winter, 525 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: it comes on and it runs even when it's cold, 526 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: it's hot. I understand it, you know. But if you 527 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: had a scan tool, you would be able to go 528 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: in and see fan request on scan tool ATA and 529 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: see if it says if it if it's saying there's 530 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: no fans, there's no there's no fan request yet the 531 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: fans are running. That tells me there's an issue. Okay, okay, 532 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: all right, But you could try you could try that. 533 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: You could try the water sprayed as its spray, because 534 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: it should be pulling air towards the engine, just for giggles, 535 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: just to be sure. Make sure that the froster is 536 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: off and make sure the A C is off. Alrighte us, 537 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: You're welcome you'll be well, take good care so and 538 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again. Zero nine zero. The Car 539 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: Doctor is coming back right after this. Welcome back, running 540 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: the end of the Car Doctor once again. Don't forget. 541 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, August ten, seven to nine East Coast time, 542 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: you can call in eight zero nine zero be car 543 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: that be part of the Car Doctors. Next weekend show 544 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: on the live shows would be next weekend Saturday. We're 545 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: taping the fourteenth show on the tenth to allow Tom 546 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: and his son to go to continue a family tradition. 547 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: Because we are Family Radio. We're here for you guys, 548 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna stay up late and make a whole 549 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: another show just for you guys to have next week. 550 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Because we hate putting on the dreaded Oh just put 551 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: a tape in. We don't just put tapes in. Uh well, 552 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: I guess we would put a tape in if I 553 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: didn't come back from the sea to experiments, but um, 554 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, not not on a normal day. Fortune dot Com. 555 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: Um so anyway, next week seven to nine East Coast time. 556 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Fortune dot Com has an interesting article that talks about uh, 557 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: let's see the title of this is the war to 558 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: charge your electric cars. Powering up research. Cathy as hard 559 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: at work. She's working her little tail off, trying to 560 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: keep us in interesting topics, and it talks about um 561 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: companies are rating thousands of charges across the country at 562 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: shopping malls and along highway. Drivers park at a charger 563 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: and plug the connector in until their electric cars until 564 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: the batters that you stop. And the companies, it points out, 565 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: mostly startups, are trying to make money from this, and 566 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: ken they isn't entirely clear. So there's the answer right now, 567 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna monetize it. Well, you knew that was coming. 568 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: Sooner or later, we're gonna have to monetize the electric 569 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: car craze and and make money from it, whether they'll 570 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: actually be able to. The article goes on to say 571 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: that for now they are feverishly experimenting with a mix 572 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: of strategies and hoping some of them will show promise. 573 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: One is the charge drivers for powering up by the 574 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: minute or the kill a watt hour. Another is to 575 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: turn chargers into a billboard by building large screens into them. 576 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: Can you see it? You're gonna go while you're while 577 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: you're charging your car, your kids are gonna be playing 578 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: digital pinball or something in the parking lot a quarter 579 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: or shot, and you know, other ways to get businesses 580 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: to pay for charging equipment to be installed on their 581 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: property as a way to attract more customers. Well, it 582 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I got 583 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: enough to do. Um all interesting stuff. The Wall Street 584 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: Journal two weeks ago, July twenty he wrote a great 585 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: article that talked about and it's titled gas Engines and 586 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: the people behind them are cast aside for electric vehicles, 587 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: And it talks about how we're just not doing anything 588 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: more with gasoline engines because well, we don't need them anymore. 589 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: It's gonna be all electric. You know, this is sort 590 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: of like a mission to Mars, and there's no man 591 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: left behind. We're not coming back from this, folks, and 592 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: maybe we won't until the next time I'm running any 593 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: of the card doctor reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, 594 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let see it