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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the bunks and burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew. Hi, it's in the lab time.

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Speaker 2: I'm you. Wait, no, I'm me. I'm Drew Doerty, You're Drew.

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Speaker 2: You're John Harris.

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Speaker 3: I'm John, and you're you. Yeah, it's the three of us.

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Speaker 2: We're having this, this nice conversation. We're not hearing much

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Speaker 2: from you, but you're involved, and we appreciate that. There's

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Speaker 2: a Mike Leach story in there, something about like the

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Speaker 2: chicken is involved, but the hog gets committed. We'll tell

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Speaker 2: that story some other times.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got it.

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Speaker 4: That's gotta be an off season story time that we

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Speaker 4: got to get into for sure.

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Speaker 2: And the rest rest in peace, Coach Leachy. I love you,

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Speaker 2: we missed you. Let's talk about these Houston Texans. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about this is an interesting week, John, because Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: which was yesterday, I was over at Austin High School

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Speaker 2: just south of downtown. Had never been over there, and

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Speaker 2: they have a sparkling new gym. It's a great setup.

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Speaker 2: They meaning the band, the cheerleaders the football team were

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Speaker 2: in that gym for a presentation and they thought they

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Speaker 2: were going to hear from the Houston Texans about the

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Speaker 2: Senior Showcase, which is a phenomenal program. Oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: it's so awesome. If you don't know about the Senior

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Speaker 2: Showcase in the spring February ish March ish, it's essentially

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Speaker 2: a combine over at the Houston Methodist Training Center for

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Speaker 2: all the guys who did not sign letters of intent

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Speaker 2: with kind of like the bigger really with any college,

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Speaker 2: but namely like the d Ones, so to speak. And

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Speaker 2: I know they don't call it that anymore, but anyways,

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Speaker 2: so these guys are doing this combine and there's about

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Speaker 2: forty five small universities places all over the country that

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Speaker 2: come to players that need players, and you know, to

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Speaker 2: has players. Houston has players. So there's millions and millions

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Speaker 2: and millions of dollars of scholarship money that goes out

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Speaker 2: for these kids. The probably wouldn't have gotten it in

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Speaker 2: the past, and the Texans have been doing it for

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Speaker 2: over a decade now and it's really cool. So they

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Speaker 2: thought they were gonna hear about that, and they will

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Speaker 2: hear about that eventually, but the McNair's were there.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: John Weeks was there, dz al Shire was there. There's

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Speaker 2: some Eric Murray, JJ Taylor. It was really cool. They

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Speaker 2: were there and the McNair spoke a little bit and

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh, we're celebrating Founders Day. It's a really

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Speaker 2: cool thing. And then they gave them twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: for pads. Oh wow, to fix the ac in their

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Speaker 2: locker room. And it's part of Founder's Day. So hey, man,

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Speaker 2: I was in college when the Tech the Oilers left,

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Speaker 2: and I was kind of out in the wilderness like

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Speaker 2: many of you who are around back then, I don't

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Speaker 2: really remember. I didn't switch allegiances to any team. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I damn sure didn't keep rooting for the Oilers or

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Speaker 2: was persistent and even to the NFL wanted to give

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Speaker 2: that thirty second franchise to the Los Angeles. They couldn't

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Speaker 2: get their stuff together, and Bob McNair was there saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: but boom boom. Thanks but boom boom. And this is

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Speaker 2: over a span of years. Finally, on October sixth of

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, Astro's playing the Braves in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: and the NFL gives that franchise to the city of

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Speaker 2: So I want to raise a glass to the late

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Speaker 2: Bob McNair last medello for him. Thank you for bringing

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Speaker 2: football back. Thank you, and Happy Founder's Day to all

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Speaker 2: who celebrate. And I know you're celebrating, John, I'm celebrating too.

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Speaker 2: We would not be sitting in the seat we're not

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Speaker 2: for the Bob McNair bringing football back to town. It was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Happy Founder's Day. I think about that a lot

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Speaker 4: Day, yeah, and what we're gonna have a franchise. And

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Speaker 3: Like you did. They wanted it in l a right,

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Speaker 4: They were doing everything possible to get a franchise to LA.

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Speaker 3: Which I couldn't understand. I couldn't understand where like there's

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Speaker 4: Love and a passion for it out there like it

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Speaker 4: you know, the Rams were successful in LA, but you

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Speaker 3: There's so many different options.

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Speaker 4: Sure, even when they want a championship in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 4: But the fact they have two teams in LA. Great,

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Speaker 4: they got so far. Okay, they can put the NFL

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Speaker 4: just we've got our stuff together, We're ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Everything that you want, NFL, We're ready. You just have

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Speaker 4: And eventually the NFL said, you know what, you're right,

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Speaker 3: Oakland didn't go there.

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Speaker 2: The Rams they wanted, Lewis they wanted, they wanted to badly,

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Speaker 4: And technically they've lost the Warriors. Shoot, because the Warriors

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Speaker 2: But the NFL came to Houston about seven eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Bills, big time slobber knocker, coming

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Speaker 2: up three to one. Teams. Josh Allen didn't have a

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Speaker 2: great night the other night, but you still look at

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Speaker 2: a season stats one sixteen passer rating, seven touchdowns, zero picks.

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Speaker 2: You know about his arm, you know about his legs.

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Speaker 2: You know he can do some damage to you. So

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Speaker 2: let's bring in another favorite from the past in Randy

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Speaker 2: the Macho Man Savage for our weekly Cream of the

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Speaker 2: Crop award winner of the crop. Thank you, Macho Man.

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Speaker 2: So for the Texans to get a victory on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna need a Cream of the Crop award performance

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Speaker 2: from you're gonna predict it, John, Who are you seeing

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Speaker 2: as your Cream of the Crop award winner in a

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Speaker 3: The cream of the crop? Can I use to guys?

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Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want. This is in the lab,

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Speaker 2: So we get weird on this show. If you didn't,

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Speaker 2: we kind of were like two mad scientists, Yeah, finding

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Speaker 3: Okay, danil Haunter and Will Anderson Junior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were kind of quiet last week. Did their job,

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Speaker 4: That one of the things that it's frustrating when you

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Speaker 3: You know there's not a bunch there, but a lot

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Speaker 4: You have to be very cautious and careful in how

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Speaker 4: and how you rush last week's opponent, Trevor Lawrence. Even

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is that guy. He will absolutely embarrass you

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Speaker 4: if you get too far upfield, he's gonna slide underneath

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Speaker 3: He's pump faking and pump faking.

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Speaker 4: He's all the way to the sideline and you think

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Speaker 4: So there are a lot of different players that have

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Speaker 4: he threw it that far. You know, we learned that

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Speaker 3: We can't just fly a field.

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Speaker 4: We can't throw some crazy moves, work back to the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: against the Jaguars. The Jaguars were sending chips, running backs

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Speaker 4: as anybody the Texas are gonna face. So I'm going

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Speaker 4: with Danil Hunter and Will Anderson Junior as my the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great choices, and they could be great choices every

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. I'm gonna do another guy who's

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Speaker 2: probably a great choice every week, and I think I've

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Speaker 2: done him before this season, and I'm going with Derek

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Speaker 2: they're doing, He's definitely gonna get his opportunity. He'll get

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Speaker 2: it either way. But I see a pick in his

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be the first one of the

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Speaker 2: Derek Stingley has done. We talked a lot about him

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Speaker 3: You like that, you cool?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean it's kind of those things you can

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing with Buffalo. I noticed this in the

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Speaker 4: Who that guy is because Khalil Shakira is probably the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what do you do about dal Kin? Kate?

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Speaker 4: Because Kincaid's when he's flexed out, he is really really good.

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Speaker 4: think those three that we've pointed out, they're all fantastic

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Speaker 3: We know that. But what do they say? Big time

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Speaker 4: This is that game for the big time players to

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Speaker 2: It's also gonna be fun seeing the h Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: The stuff on the arms, It's there's gonna be There's

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Speaker 4: You know, the players when we interviewed them, you you

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Speaker 3: They loved them and totally different. You just don't know

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Speaker 3: Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait either. All right, man, It's always fun

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Speaker 2: being with you to do these things. It's always fun

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Speaker 2: having a good time chit chat about the Texans till

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Speaker 2: then we'll be back next week. Go Texans, h is

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Speaker 2: up and see you.

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