1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: up on this Wednesday edition, it finally happened. Mike Tomlin 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: steps down as Steelers head coach. What does it mean 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: for the organization moving forward, and what does this say 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: about the current state of coaching in the world of football. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: We will discuss some good news for one quarterback in 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. We're also going to talk about why a 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: move was made and how another quarterback has all the 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: power he could want with one organization. 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How we feel? 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: Good morning? Great? 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go. Everybody's fired up? 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: Now? Many? 31 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: Why not you flowered up? 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: Jonas? 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: Are you fowered up? I'm ready to rock? 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: Man? Why? 35 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is what we do, oh right 36 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: and early rocking and rolling, talking about stories. It's talking 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: about the end of an era in the world of football. Yeah, 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: it's over. Yeah, Mike Tomlin, that's a wrap nineteen years. 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: Why do you sound happy that much? You know, maybe 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: it's just the music. 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: Oh it's greaty Oh my gosh, it's an end of Vaniera. 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: He's gone. 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: Are you taking no? 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: No? 45 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 5: No no. 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: I was just sad. You just sounded super jovial, man, 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: That's all I was just asking. Sorry, can I check it? 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: Can I check it? 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin nineteen years and he stepped in. 50 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: Some people celebrate, you know, at funerals. Some people get 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: sad at funerals. I mean, you know, that's how you kids. 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 6: Can I ask this, Are you guys surprised by the 53 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 6: way it happened? 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: No, that he stepped down? 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 6: I am, yeah, that that he stepped down versus you know, 56 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 6: the having a conversation either saying, hey, they mutually agreed 57 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 6: to part ways or he's gonna be the coach for 58 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought that was a little strange, 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: Like what goes behind that? 61 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: I think I think he saved them the trouble of 62 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: having to be the bad guy. 63 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: And I think the writing was probably on the wall. 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: And if you looked at the way they approached this season, 65 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: they kind of went out. They got Aaron Rodgers, they 66 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: got Jalen Ramsey, they went and spent on DK Metcalf, 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: which didn't feel like a normal Steelers thing they would do. 68 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: And it felt like this was kind of the last 69 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: ditch effort of all right, let's let's try something and 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: it didn't work. And the fact that he was ready 71 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: to walk and he made his decision that quick afterwards, 72 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: like the next day or two days later, I just 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: I looked at it and I said, yeah, that's he 74 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: was ready to go, like and he said. 75 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 6: I know, we're going to talk about Steve as Shatty 76 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 6: and some of the comments that he's made at least yesterday. 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 6: But I also wonder if you know, Loop makes the 78 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 6: kick if Tomlin's stepping down immediately after, Like I like 79 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 6: both things between Harbaugh and Tomlin and the timing of 80 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 6: all of it, like basically came down to the outcome 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 6: of that game and they're just delayed a week. I 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: mean that's how it felt at. 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: Least m It just leaves me with a lot of questions. 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously if he doesn't give any any real 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: clarity to you know, after the fact as to why 86 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: he stepped down the way that he did, I guess 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: we will always speculate as to why he did it. 88 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: But I just came away with more questions, you know, 89 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: than than not. Like, yes, the conversations have ensued, they 90 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: have taken place about you know, what what happens if 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: the Steelers continue to underperform. I don't think that that 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 3: was any surprise that the pressure was on. But was 93 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: it solely him personally? Was it connected to you know, 94 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: the idea of I don't want to give them a 95 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: hard time and it's just time to move on. Like 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: I just wonder what factors went into play. Does Aaron 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: Rodgers in his future or just the quarterback's position in 98 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: general come into play. It's an aging it's an aging roster. 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: How much does that come into play? You know? Did 100 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: he did he feel as though he didn't have enough 101 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: time to do a rebuild as as a coach, Like there, 102 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 3: I just had questions. That's all I do. And you know, 103 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: it's great, a fine organization as as the Pittsburgh Steelers 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: has held as a standard for as long as it has. 105 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't feel like there's any 106 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: shadiness involved in it. I just feel like it's pretty 107 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: cut and dry. You didn't, you know, you didn't get 108 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: the results that that were being sought. You're aware of it, 109 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: everybody is aware of it, and a decision was made. 110 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: But I just feel like stepping away seemed a little 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that just that that made it a 112 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: that I think that stimulated or triggered you know, Okay, 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: I have questions like why'd you step away? Is it 114 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: the media? You know? Is it? 115 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 5: Like? 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: Is it all of it? Like? What was it? What 117 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: was the real catalyst of it all? Outside of obviously 118 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: just not getting it done. 119 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they seem like. 120 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: And I know that made the playoffs, and I get 121 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: it that they've done this before. I don't know how 122 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: great of a like how good of a roster is that, 123 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like how how good of 124 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: a situation is that? It just it feels like they've 125 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: it just ran its course. And he probably maybe felt 126 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: the same. He's he's heard all the conversation, he's heard 127 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: all the discussion and all the all the you know, 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: the voices out there. He's heard the founds that the 129 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: fans get more disgruntled with with what's gone on. I 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: think it was Josina Anderson who reported that there was 131 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: a coach who could be uh who could be stepping 132 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: away a long time coach, and then went in, you 133 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: know and refound her tweet and said that coach was 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. She said this like a couple of months ago, 135 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: and her point on that was he felt like the 136 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: job that he had done there no longer maybe got 137 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: the same respect that it had in previous years. 138 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: To basically sum. 139 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: It up, and I think Mike Tomin just looked around 140 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: and said, all right, man, like it's it's just time 141 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: it's run its course a little different than Baltimore because 142 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: they made the decision. 143 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: But I think I don't. 144 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: My big question would be would Pittsburgh have made the decision, 145 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and if there was, if he got again, they had to, right, 146 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. 147 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: I think they had to. I think they had to 148 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: make the decision. And as complicated as it may have seemed, 149 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: I think it was. It wasn't complicated. I think that 150 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: it was. And we had the conversation, and I think 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people had the conversation, right, like, if 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: you don't make it into the playoffs, it's probably a rap. 153 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: Then when they when they won the division and went 154 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: into the playoffs, well, it was the conversation. We said, Hey, 155 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: it could have been you know, what'd you say? Jonas 156 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: ripped the scab off, ripped the band aid off by 157 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: just not making it to the playoffs. You make it 158 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: into the playoffs. If you don't make it out of 159 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: the first round, it's no different than you not making 160 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: it to the playoffs. Right. I think that that was 161 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: very clear. So having such an early departure the way 162 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: that it took place, I don't think that it came 163 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: as any surprise. Again, I think the biggest surprise was 164 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: how not that it did happen. I think this was 165 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: inevitable if he did not, if this team did not 166 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: perform well in the first round, if they didn't make 167 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: it out of the first round of the playoffs, second round, 168 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. No, I feel like that's up for debate. 169 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: But first round, you lose at home, and you lose 170 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: by a very large margin, even though it was a 171 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: more competitive game, most likely than what the score indicated. 172 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 6: A couple of things. I think for some reason, we've 173 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 6: become almost like accustom to the Steelers' track record and 174 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 6: what Mike Tomlins done. And you know, I understand he's 175 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 6: got a Super Bowl. We're going to make a lot 176 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 6: of cases like hey one with cowards, guys, whatever, Okay, 177 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 6: you know he's he's been the model of consistency, never 178 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 6: had a losing season, and there's something to be said 179 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 6: for that. And I think, you know, to what you 180 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 6: guys just said about, you know, they kind of got 181 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 6: tired or accustomed to just what he was doing. Well, 182 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 6: you're about ready to find out because this is like 183 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 6: the roster's going to be in a rebuild. The Steelers 184 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 6: probably need to reset and whoever comes in as the 185 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 6: next head coach. I just have a hard time believing 186 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 6: they're going to be to flip that switch consistently and 187 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 6: do what he's done. Like the Steelers are going to 188 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 6: have to deal with some bad seasons. They are, like 189 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 6: they're a great organization, one of the most well respected. 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 6: They will get a good head coach. That is an 191 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 6: organization that makes everyone kind of second guess maybe I 192 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 6: should I should take that interview, you know. I mean, 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 6: that's that's a better job than what I'm in. I mean, 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: they've had as less head coaches as there's been popes 195 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 6: since like the nineteen sixties. Says job doesn't come open 196 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 6: very often, and what it does, typically it ends up 197 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 6: being a guy who's gonna be there for a while 198 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: and he's got the they give him the patience to 199 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 6: build this. But I don't know. I think in this 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 6: day and age of the NFL, it's really really hard 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 6: to you know, showcase the model of consistency that he is, 202 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 6: you know, demonstrating. And I realize it hasn't come with championships, 203 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 6: but apparently that's all it's about anymore, is if you're 204 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 6: not winning a Super if you stink and it feels 205 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 6: like it's it's like that with young people, you know, 206 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 6: when you read through some of the stuff on social media, 207 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 6: listened to some of the comments made, it's like a 208 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 6: lot of young people kind of you know, chiming in 209 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: and it's like, dude, I don't think you realize like 210 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 6: how hard it is to do even what they're doing now, 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 6: but they're about ready to find out. Because and then 212 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 6: the tough thing too, is like with the whole Resett, 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 6: that this decision ultimately impacts Aaron Rodgers, because Aaron Rodgers 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 6: probably is coming back or at least contemplating it. If 215 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin's back for another year. 216 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, all I know is I think there's a validity 217 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: to the idea of having the type of success that 218 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: he's had because he has had success. He wins, he 219 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: hasn't had a losing season. But I think there's also 220 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: something to be said that if you have a system 221 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: that is leading to winning seasons but it's not leading 222 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: to championships, that's a very difficult proposition to put in 223 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: front of a coach, to say you got to change. 224 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: How do you change from success? You're already successful, And 225 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: I think that that was most likely one of the 226 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: most complicated, you know things that you know, Mike Tomlin 227 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: and his coaching staff and even the piss verd Steelers 228 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: needed to find a solution to how do you do 229 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: a reset when you're already successful and and then the 230 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: idea of being able to survive a reset. If you 231 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: do a reset and you go outside of what you're 232 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: already successful doing and that reset doesn't yield you even 233 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: the return that you were getting prior to the reset, 234 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: then you're you're ultimately gone anyway. So you're almost in, 235 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: you know, what would be considered to be a very 236 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: very difficult situation, maybe even considered a no win situation. 237 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: And I think that that's to me, that's the biggest 238 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: conundrum of it all, is that you're you're you're a 239 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: successful franchise, you're a successful team, as you guys just mentioned, 240 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: you're just not winning super Bowls. You're not you're not 241 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: having as much success in the playoffs as you would 242 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: like to have. So it'll be interesting to see you 243 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: get a new guy in there, what do they do 244 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: Because one of the biggest things that we heard when 245 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: it was mentioned, you know, Tomlin won a Super Bowl, 246 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: but you could possibly say he won it with Bill Coward. Guys. 247 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: One thing that Bill Coward did throughout the entirety of 248 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: his his his tenure as the coach was maintained the 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: stealer way, and that was created by Chuck Knowle and 250 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: those players from that era. It carried over into Bill 251 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: Coward's era of time. And some people, and I've heard 252 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: this from from you know, conversations from from Ben Roethlisberger 253 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: on his podcast. It's been from players who have been 254 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: in the locker room that have experienced it themselves. Some 255 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 3: would say that what was considered to be the traditional 256 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: stealer way had faded away. And listen, it's twenty twenty six. 257 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: Evolution happens. The only thing that's inevitable is changed, and 258 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: you got to be ready for it. So did the 259 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: stealers change as as time changed based upon where culture is, 260 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: where society is. Maybe, But I do know that a 261 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: lot of the people, even like old hits that that 262 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: talked about it, from like Mail Blunt to Terry Bradshaw, 263 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: they were very critical of the idea that the things 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: that made the Pittsburgh Steelers the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 265 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: past had no longer existed, and so I wonder, you know, 266 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: how much does does that play into, uh where where 267 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers currently are. And it does raise the 268 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: question the next guy that comes in, does he do 269 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: it his way or does he try to do it 270 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: the Steelers way? Because now at this point you got 271 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: to believe that that's probably complicated because what exactly is the 272 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: Steeler way? 273 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's my question. The Steeler way is winning, 274 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: isn't it? Because if it's winning, then Mike Tomlin did 275 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: it better than anybody outside of Chuck Noll. 276 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: I think there's there's more, yes, winning obviously, but I 277 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: think there's more to it in terms of what takes place, 278 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: like the culture of the building, the culture of the 279 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: locker room, you know, the how the players handle themselves, 280 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: what takes place with the players. I think there's a 281 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: lot more to it that leads up to the winning 282 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: that would be considered to be the stealerway. It would 283 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: be great to hear from a stealer that you know, 284 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: played in those eras of time. You know, I work 285 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: with one guy. I guess I'll ask him at some point, 286 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: but he was a part of the Bill Cower era 287 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: and he was a part of the Mike and he 288 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: was a part of the Mike Tomlin era, and I 289 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: know I heard him make mention of things like that, 290 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: like the people that were in the locker rooms. You 291 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: think about the Levon Kirklands and the Rod Woodson's and 292 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: the Greg Lloyd's and the Jerome Bettis's. You know, there 293 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: was a hierarchy in that locker room that governed what 294 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: that Steelerway represented, and I don't know that that existed 295 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: in this latest team. 296 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Like it's also I think, kind of branching off of 297 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Brady's point, we're never going to see the run that 298 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin had with the team ever again, Belichick, 299 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: never again like this like that those days are over. 300 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: And it almost makes me kind. 301 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Of respect Iowa and Kirk Farns because it's almost like 302 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, we know who we are. You know, 303 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: eight nine wins. You know we're gonna punt a lot. 304 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll score a few points here or there, 305 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: we'll be in some bowl game and the you know, 306 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: in late December, and that's about it. We know who 307 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: we are and in the NFL, we're never going to 308 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: see a coach go eighteen nineteen years, it's never gonna happen. 309 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: Those those days are done and for however long Andy 310 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: Reid decides he wants to do it, for like he's 311 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna do it. But I think the days of those 312 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: long tenured coaches who can establish the Steeler Way or 313 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: the Raven Way or whatever they want to call it, 314 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I think it's just going to become more and more 315 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: difficult because I just don't think people are going to 316 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: stay in one place for as long anymore. 317 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: So let me uh, let me ask you guys, this 318 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 6: is that because of society and the pressure out around them. 319 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 6: Like I look at Sean mcvayh and I think he 320 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 6: probably has the best chance of being around for any 321 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 6: significant portion of time. Right, He's coached for is it 322 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 6: nine years now in lah Yeah? 323 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you look at. 324 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 6: Their model of success, something else goes along with us. 325 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 6: But think about it, Well, we have a conversation about 326 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 6: him a year or two ago about maybe stepping out. Yeah, 327 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 6: and and and that's and and so so I want 328 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 6: to pick up on that point, like he was burnt out, 329 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: and it feels like the burnout is more and more 330 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 6: and I don't know if it's the style of coaching, 331 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 6: if it's again the pressures from the outside, all the 332 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 6: stuff they got to deal with if the job is changed. 333 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 6: I mean, I know, if you go throughout time, we 334 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 6: can look at, you know, being a head coach in 335 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 6: the NFL and say, hey, in the off season, some 336 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 6: of these guys were working second jobs if you go 337 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 6: way back. But then there became a point in time 338 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: where there were off seasons, and now there is an 339 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 6: off season, but it's not what it used to be. 340 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot there's more time off if 341 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 6: you're not making the playoffs. Now again, the Rams are 342 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 6: a team that at least under McVeigh has traditionally made 343 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 6: it or definitely been in the hunt. 344 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: So you look at it from that standpoint, just. 345 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 6: Go so the season is gonna be a little bit longer, 346 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: but there's also a period of time where he's got 347 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 6: some downtime, he's not even you know, he's gonna be 348 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 6: able to take a break too. So I just I 349 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 6: wonder as you move forward and we kind of look 350 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 6: at it like, what are those you know, external pressures. 351 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 6: Is it just the pressure to win one to win 352 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl? And then everyone on the outside is 353 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 6: delusional because like I kind of fall in this category 354 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 6: when I when I think about just being a dad 355 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 6: now raising kids who are playing sports, it's like every 356 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 6: parent thinks their kids getting a scholarship, and I'll always 357 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 6: think of the statistics to that, and even at like 358 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 6: a youth age, I'm just going all these parents. I 359 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 6: was like, I'm looking on the court, I see two 360 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 6: I see two girls who are probably gonna get a 361 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 6: scholarship right now, you know, like just watching them and 362 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 6: you go to like other games, you like if you 363 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 6: unless they're an outlier, like probably not get a scholarship, 364 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 6: Like they're probably not one. 365 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: Of the best. 366 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 6: And it's almost like our society, you know that they'd 367 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 6: be walking to this every single season. 368 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: Oh all, my team's got a chance to win a 369 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 4: super Bowl. No, it doesn't. 370 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 6: There's like probably seven teams in the NFL, maybe eight, 371 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 6: you know, an nine, And you say, there's some some 372 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 6: surprises that come in there, like I don't know that 373 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 6: people thought that Denver's gonna be as good as they 374 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 6: were this year, or Jacksonville's gonna be as good as 375 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 6: they were this year. 376 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 3: Seattle, you know, Seattle is one of those. 377 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 6: But like, like I was looking back through a preseason particudd, 378 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 6: I had four of the seven at each conference that 379 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 6: I thought would make it to the playoffs made it. 380 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 6: Obviously missed three on each side. Uh, the difference has 381 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 6: been after the wildcard round, all we got one remaining 382 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 6: in each and that's Buffalo and San Frana. 383 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 4: And I didn't think either one of those are going 384 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: to the super Bowl. So after Buffalo and San fran 385 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: are out, it's it's done for me. But I just 386 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: I go back. 387 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 6: I look at, you know, where we're at as a 388 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 6: as a society and our perspective, and it seems like 389 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 6: you're running out some really good people, some really good coaches, 390 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 6: maybe before the time should be done because of what 391 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 6: they like, the external pressure of it, and like, is 392 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 6: that what it's become? The expectations are. There's never a 393 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 6: period where you can just you know, build and grow 394 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 6: and and and it's maybe a little slower than everyone else, 395 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 6: but you eventually get there and it's it's a much 396 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 6: more successful path. Society's almost like no, no, burn it downs, 397 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: rebuild it. It's like, no, that's not that's not sustainable. 398 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 6: You can't keep doing. 399 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: That it's spaed up. Too much information is light speed 400 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: you have? You have actually more intelligent fans because information 401 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: we've gone through, this information boom, this technology boom. 402 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 6: Are they more intelligent or just more opinionated because they have? 403 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Well? I think they can be more opinionated because of 404 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: the technology and because of the the you know, the 405 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: platforms that has given a voice to to the fan, 406 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: sure and for what Sure, and has extended the media. 407 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: A lot of dummies out there though there are a lot, 408 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: there's a lot of. 409 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: Information. 410 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 6: This is why I say this is just because you 411 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 6: have the information, that doesn't mean you know what the 412 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 6: hell to do with it. And just because you have 413 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 6: an opinion, that doesn't mean your opinions based on anything. 414 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: Like we used to care about experience, I don't know 415 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 6: that people feel that way as much anymore. I mean, 416 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 6: you look at some of the head coaching interviews. Somebody 417 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: somebody's head coaching interviews like Grant Yudinsky. Now he might 418 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 6: be the next great offensive mine. Have you guys heard 419 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 6: of him? 420 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Just he's thirty years old. He's an offensive mind. 421 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 6: He's now like that next great you know guy that 422 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 6: someone might hire. 423 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: And how does that even happen. How do you because like, 424 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 3: how does he become the he is the hot go 425 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: to guy in terms of an offensive mind, Like there's 426 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: a lot of great offensive minds out there, there's a 427 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: lot of great defensive minds out there. By sure. 428 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 6: In fact, what happens with a young age young guys 429 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 6: is it's like it's so different than sports. You're around 430 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 6: enough coaches, you're rund enough people. Then you have an 431 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 6: outlier come along and you go like kind of similar 432 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 6: to Sean McVay, like, hey, you should interview this guy. 433 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 6: Like he's different, like the way he approaches things, the 434 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: way he handles like like you know, he's gonna make 435 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 6: some mistakes, but he's an outlier. He's different. He's differentiating 436 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 6: himself from everyone else. So I'm not going to say 437 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 6: that that those guys aren't out there. But if you're 438 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: an organization and you're gonna keep running through coaches every 439 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 6: year looking for that guy, I don't know, maybe maybe 440 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 6: the n F because there's really no risk of you ever, 441 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: you know, going bankrupt and lose your company or losing 442 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 6: you know, losing fan interest. Like maybe they're insulated from 443 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 6: that so they can keep doing that. But I just 444 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 6: look at it and say, like, I don't think that's 445 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 6: a successful model. Like there's there's too many times you 446 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 6: see organizations not give guys enough time and they say, no, 447 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 6: you get. 448 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: A year or two. 449 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 6: I was like, all right, it's hard to I mean, 450 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 6: like what Liam Cohen did this year, that stuff doesn't happen, 451 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 6: doesn't happen, doesn't come along very often. And by the way, 452 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 6: like we'll see what they look like next year, in 453 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 6: the year after. That's I just I don't know. I 454 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 6: think I think as a society, like our expectations for 455 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 6: how all this stuff is supposed to go has like 456 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: to Lvar's points turn to light speed, and I'm not 457 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: sure that's a good thing. 458 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Like even the Tomlin McVeigh those are the exception, not 459 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: the rule. Those like when McVeigh interviewed with the Rams, 460 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: nobody out here thought he was going to get the gig. 461 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll give him 462 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: a look, and then all of a sudden. 463 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: He blew him away in an interview and he was. 464 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Back for a second, and the conversation was, wait, he 465 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: might actually get this job. And Mike Tomlin he was 466 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: like they interviewed him, and I don't I don't want to. 467 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a rooty rule thing, 468 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: but it was more like a yeah, we'll bring him in, 469 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: but we're looking at other at another, at another place. 470 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: And he interviewed so well. But you've seen how long 471 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 1: those guys have lasted more often than not. That doesn't 472 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: doesn't happen everywhere. It just doesn't like you can go 473 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: through Callahan at Tennessee, you can go like all these 474 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: coaches who were just turned and burned so quickly. I 475 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: mean the Arizona Cardinals did it. Houston was blowing out, 476 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, a coach every season before Demiko. 477 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: Ryan's got it. 478 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: It just yeah, it's I just don't see what we've 479 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: gotten to witness with Mike Tomlin and John Harbor. 480 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 4: I don't see it ever happening again. 481 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: It'll be an interesting to see. It'll be interesting to 482 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: see how it happens, how it plays out in Pittsburgh. 483 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: You know that so many, so many years, you've had 484 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: what three coaches three I think in the history. I 485 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: think it's four coaches altogether. Yeah, I think it's four 486 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: all the but it'll be interesting to see does does 487 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh change their ways. Do do they go down this 488 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: new way of doing things and how they handle things 489 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: or will they continue to do it? The air quotes 490 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: the stealer way. Will you get a coach and give 491 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 3: them a multitude of years to to be able to 492 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: build a winner? You know it'll be that's because that 493 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: is the one organization if you're going to say, what 494 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: organization would you use as a barometer to say, Okay, 495 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: is this is this evolution of the league. Is this 496 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: how it's going to be done from here on out? 497 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: It's going to be what the Steelers do? You know, 498 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: Big Art ain't here anymore. It's not Art Ruinings team. 499 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: It's it's the other Arthur Arthur that it's the it's 500 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: the the grand kids, it's this's the sons. So it'll 501 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: be interesting to see how how they handle, you know, 502 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 3: this next step, next phase of what the Pittsburgh Steelers represent. 503 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 6: Someone had said, like the NFL is converted now to 504 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 6: a league where they want coaches who are able to 505 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 6: adapt and change and you know, make those adjustments that 506 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 6: are data driven, you know, not like year to year anymore. 507 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 6: Now it's like by game, by half, by quarter, by drive. 508 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 6: And I think the scary thing about that is is 509 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 6: if you've got someone who's that fluid, that flexible to 510 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 6: adapt and change everything else, Like what's their identity? 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Mine is the original original Louisiana 522 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: Hot Sauce. It'll dress up your favorite eats with ease. 523 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 3: On Nacho's pizza and in your gumbo. That taste is 524 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: going to score. That's my VP as well, So make 525 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: sure you get you some of that original Louisiana hot sauce. 526 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 3: That's Louisiana hut. Make sure you buy you some. 527 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here 528 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox 529 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: with you. We will have the usuals coming up. Later on, 530 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: we get another edition of In case you missed it. 531 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: We've got our midweek Awards, hour two of the program. 532 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: Petros Papadakis, We've got the leftovers. All of it is 533 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: yours here on this three hour extravaganza. Up next, though, 534 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: some good news, good news for one quarterback in the NFL. 535 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: We'll get into that for you right here on FSR. 536 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: Well, we've told you about good news and that's well 537 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: the challenge the Pizza before the Hut challenge with quarterbacks. Listen. 538 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: Pizza Hut has another message for our fans, and that 539 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: message is, well, don't forget to order the Pizza Hut 540 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: before the first Hut is yelled. That's right, the big 541 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: New Yorker hair. It's making moves and it is the biggest, 542 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 3: the baddest pizza for the biggest games. It's massive. Yeah. Wow, 543 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: The slices are so big you have to fold them, 544 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: you know, like a true New Yorker. Those slices are amazing. 545 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 3: And you know what, right now, they're just ten bucks. 546 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: That's it. Ten bucks. So before the first Hut, order 547 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: the biggest, baddest pizza for the biggest games. Oh gosh, yep. Yeah, Well, 548 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: and you grab that Big New Yorker and you're all 549 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: set for the entire game. That's the Big New Yorker 550 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: and that's the big games this weekend. Do it big, 551 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: Do it from Pizza Hut, and do it before the Hut. 552 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: Order the Big New Yorker early. 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We are going to have another edition 582 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: of in case you missed it coming up here in 583 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: about twelve minutes from now. But good news, the Carolina 584 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: Panthers have picked up the fifth year option on Bryce Young. 585 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: So it looks like little Stability goes. 586 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 4: A long way. 587 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: As we were talking about in the NFL, Little Stability 588 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: and Bryce Young is going to get another opportunity here 589 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: with the Panthers. Dave Canalis sort of the momentum they've 590 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: got going on there to try and figure this thing 591 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: out potentially in Carolina long term. 592 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 6: I think he and you know, for people who are curious, 593 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 6: I think he's earned that right. You know, the way 594 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 6: you play this season, they I realized at eight and 595 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 6: nine it's not a great year to some, but it 596 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 6: was enough to win the division. It's enough to get 597 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 6: in the playoffs. I think you watch the playoff game, 598 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 6: you go, yeah, he keeps it teams in game, He 599 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 6: just he plays like a winning style of football. I 600 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 6: always say to people, I'm always enamored with his ability 601 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 6: to manage the game, which we use that term, and 602 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 6: as we talked about brock Purty, people always think it's 603 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 6: a negative when you're talking about the quarterback, but you 604 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 6: have to have certain traits, certain abilities to be able 605 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 6: to control the game in the first place, and he does. 606 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 6: And as that talent has gotten better around him, you've 607 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 6: continually seen the uptick in his stats and everything else. 608 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 6: They get Tmac this year as a rookie. He's incredible 609 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 6: for him and he ends up helping him throw for 610 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 6: more yards. He's ever thrown to more touchdown pass He's 611 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 6: ever had. It's his highest completion percentage of his career 612 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 6: so far. So in a lot of ways, it was 613 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 6: a career year for him in every category. I mean, 614 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 6: he's not thrown as many picks. He's not to take 615 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 6: as many sacks, you know, at least you know, picks 616 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 6: per a touchdown. 617 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: Per say, technically he is throwing more. 618 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 6: But yeah, well he also playboard games. He also playbore 619 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 6: games last year. So but you look at that, bitch, Damn. 620 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: He's I mean, look at that. 621 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 6: But by the way, he did go back through whatever 622 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 6: you want, he's he's bringing his team back at the 623 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 6: end of games. 624 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: He was been clutch. 625 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: I mean, how many fourth quarter comebacks or game winning 626 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 6: drives do you have in the end? 627 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 3: Why y'all get so, don't get mad at me right 628 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: through the interceptions not me? 629 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 6: Well again, on a per game average, on a per 630 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 6: game average, a. 631 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: Good man, Hey listen, war I think it's a good thing. 632 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: Whether he is the long term solution, I don't know, 633 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: but it did seem as though they found a rhythm 634 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: and and need I say, possibly they found an identity 635 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: during the course of this season. I chose Caroline had 636 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: to upset the Rams. That's how highly I think of 637 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: this Carolina. 638 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: Path before the season, Before the season did. 639 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: I didn't think that they would be very good at all. 640 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: I didn't think they'd be very good at all. So 641 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: my whole thing was in terms of with Bryce Young, 642 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: was this a year where he could show that his 643 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: size didn't matter? You know, because we know like size, 644 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: you know, in our culture, our society, it's something that 645 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: people lead with. You know, size matters, you know, everything 646 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: matters as it applies to the appearance of it all, 647 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: you know. And so him not passing the eye tests, 648 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: you know, and looking like like a kid on the 649 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: football field, like not trying to throw shade at him. 650 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: He just he just looked like a kid, you know. 651 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: Was that was his performance? Is going to be enough 652 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: for him to be viewed in a serious way. Was 653 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: he going to get the benefit of his play? And 654 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: that would be what he's judged off of, and that 655 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: it seems to be that that's what it was. He 656 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 3: did have some fine games, some fine moments they had, 657 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: some unlikely victories take place, or you know what have 658 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: you And I just I look at where they're at 659 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: right now. Again, I'm not all the way convinced that 660 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: Bryce Young is the answer. But the fact that they're 661 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 3: going to stick with him based off of maybe what 662 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: the potential is of how this could play out. I 663 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: don't think that it's a bad move. I really don't. 664 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: I think they did enough. He did enough where and 665 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: I think he has enough respect from the guys that 666 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: are in that locker room from what I could gather, 667 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: I think he's got enough respect where they feel comfortable 668 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 3: at least giving him another one to two years. He's 669 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: two to three. 670 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: He's had a couple of things, a couple of things 671 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: going against him. One he got drafted to the Panthers, 672 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: and as the phrase Brady uses, they were a crap 673 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: bag for several years and it was not an ideal 674 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: situation with an owner who you know, was throwing lighter 675 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: fluid on fans and everything else that was going on there. 676 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: So that was a problem. Also, the other problem was 677 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: he was drafted ahead of c J. Stroud, and c J. 678 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: Stroud had a incredible rookie season, so there was already 679 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: the well you could have had him, but she took him, 680 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: not factoring in environment, everything around him. And so I 681 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: like the idea of him actually getting a real shot 682 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: with a real coach and a real culture and the 683 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: owner who just steps away, like you haven't heard from 684 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: David Tepper. You haven't heard a peep out of that guy. 685 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: And I give him credit. I think he probably understood, 686 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: you know, I'm making things worse, not better. Why don't 687 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: I just go ahead and drift back. They've got t 688 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: Mac there, They've got, you know, options to run the 689 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: football with the defense. 690 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 4: Is much better. 691 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: And look, they really did almost beat the Rams twice 692 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: them once, and they really did almost beat the Rams twice. 693 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: And it wasn't because of Bryce Young that they lost 694 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: that game. 695 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 3: You know. 696 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: Defensively, they just kind of melted down and there was 697 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: a great catch on the sideline laid. But yeah, I 698 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: was looking at the records from this past weekend. So 699 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: LeVar did have money line on Carolina to win that game. 700 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 6: Yep. 701 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: I did interesting sticks picks. 702 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: I mean, but I'm just saying I was watching the 703 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: way they were playing, and I felt like they had 704 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 3: a really good chance at home to be able to win. 705 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 3: And I wasn't wrong. It was close. 706 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 6: No, you were You're wrong with the moneyline picker. You 707 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 6: were not wrong. 708 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: I was not wrong. They were competitive in the game. 709 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, if I lost that game, you're not supposed 710 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 3: to feel good in a loss. I get that, but 711 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: I would not have felt discouraged that we did not 712 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 3: belong on the field with potentially could be the team 713 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 3: that maybe makes the run all the way through, don't. 714 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: I don't know that to be certain, but I thought 715 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 3: that was a trap game for the Rams and they 716 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: got through it. But the Carolina Panthers did not disappoint, 717 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: and what they're showing was so something to be positive 718 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 3: about if you're a Carolina fan. 719 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: What were the final results from wild Card weekend? 720 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 6: And just look at that, Jonas, you were four and three. 721 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 3: I think that was a rough one. I didn't get one. 722 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 3: I think I didn't get one. 723 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 4: You were oh to nine. 724 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all good. 725 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: It sticks. 726 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: I was on the right side of that oh and nine. 727 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: That's all I'm gonna say. 728 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: You could have picked the herd. 729 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 6: The hard thing for var Is week eighteen was his 730 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 6: last winning, which was I guess you said a couple 731 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 6: of winners in there. Man, you just you're like a ping. 732 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 4: Pong ball, you know, did you do? 733 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 6: Brady? I think I'm like similarly for last no simular. 734 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: What's simular? What four for four? What similar simular? 735 00:37:53,800 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: Simular four and four five? Yeah, you're right, four or five? 736 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: Sorry, So I went back through it, So I went 737 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: four and three radios four and five lavars on. 738 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 739 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 6: Well, and Jonas is trying to gloat even though he's 740 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 6: wondering he's been so bad in the regular season, I mean, 741 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 6: the worst of all of us. 742 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: I think you guys have learned that there's a difference 743 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: between the regular season and postseason. 744 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 6: Like, well, you wouldn't have made the postseason everywhere. 745 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: The real players show up in the postseason all right 746 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: when it matters most. 747 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 4: And you guys have learned wouldn't have made the postseason. 748 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: Last regular regular season postseason, the big game is almost here. 749 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: If you guys need help, you just let whatever. 750 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 6: Hey, Jonas, hell, what does it say on the Google 751 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 6: doc was the saying the above. Does it announce a 752 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 6: regular season winner? 753 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: No, but it does say to order pizza. Hut pizza 754 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: before the q QB shouts out hut. So yeah, just 755 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 3: make sure while you're listening to these guys talk about 756 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 3: and gloat about being good about information and winning and 757 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: picks and all that stuff. You know, get you some 758 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 3: pizza so you can listen and enjoy the show. You know, 759 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 3: make sure you say it before the QB shouts out 760 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 3: his first Hut's that's super important. And you know what, 761 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: last Friday, we did a segment where we said the 762 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 3: word hut a whole bunch of times. And while we're 763 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 3: doing a contest where you correctly, well, if you guess 764 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 3: correctly and you're entered how many huts have been heard 765 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: and said in the segment, you'll have a chance to 766 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: win three thousand dollars in fan cave upgrades and a 767 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: pizza sweep Steaks page. Well, pizza sweep Steaks where you 768 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: get pizzas I guess every week for a year from 769 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: Pizza Hut, which is crazy, all right. 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Begin Just search two Pros FSR and subscribe. 799 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 7: Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of 800 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 7: sports or entertainment. 801 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 3: Good thing. 802 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 2: The guys are here to bring you in case you missed. 803 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: It, and for that we turn it over to our 804 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: executive producer, the one and only Patrick Sweek. 805 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 4: What I know it's your vo. 806 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: O? My god, what's up? Bars? Oh man? 807 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 5: Well, it's time to play in case you miss the 808 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 5: guys in in case you missed it here, Well, Brady, 809 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 5: I'm with this one. I know you didn't miss this one, 810 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 5: but Marcus Freeman everybody is expected to remain the head 811 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 5: coach of Notre Dame for twenty twenty six, reported by 812 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 5: the Adam Schefter earlier, in case. 813 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 6: Notre Dame, I'm like, we don't even have like a 814 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 6: home and home with you guys, Like, why are you? 815 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm actually a fan, I just like, you know, getting 816 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: at you. That's all. 817 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 6: Well, there's always a buddy, there's all. 818 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 3: There's always a plan. It's Notre Dame. 819 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: Why the f would he leave Notre Dame for one 820 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: of these jobs? 821 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 6: Wow, Pittsburgh would be the one that I'd. 822 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: Be like that, I would be out and really yeah. 823 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 6: What that track record? Hell yeah, their history everything else, 824 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 6: that'd be That'd be a tough job. 825 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 3: To turn down. 826 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 6: Can you bring in our lifetime? 827 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 4: Can you? Can you bring twenty years. 828 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: Before come back and we get to share it up top? 829 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 4: Can see jas with them? 830 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 3: Or no? 831 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 4: Take that job