Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sinners Podcast with your host now fucked that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone. So tell me how do you like
Speaker 1: the debate? Pete? Tell me how do you like the debate?
Speaker 1: Let's get right to the bullshit.
Speaker 2: Man, Allie, it didn't go how I thought it was
Speaker 2: gonna go. I thought it was gonna be more of
Speaker 2: an ambush, so I didn't really watch it, but the
Speaker 2: a lot of the excerpts that I've seen it, it
Speaker 2: was very uh, it was convalescent.
Speaker 3: I'll say that much. That's the law. That needs to
Speaker 3: be the slogan for twenty twenty four. Convict versus convalescent.
Speaker 3: That would go viral.
Speaker 1: That's actually sixty years between them two brothers. That that
Speaker 1: that's the fucking crime right there? Is that really the crime?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't let either one of the motherfuckers babysit my grandkids,
Speaker 1: let alone drive me somewhere.
Speaker 3: Would you let your grandkids babysit them? No? Cry?
Speaker 1: They are you need? I think, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize. Still told me there's a long
Speaker 1: time ago. This country is hell of prejudice towards older people.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: That's humanity, this reality.
Speaker 4: I mean, like maybe there is no country for old men.
Speaker 1: Bags. Okay, let me ask you this. You go into
Speaker 1: you go in for heart surgery, and your surgeon is
Speaker 1: is seventy eight years old. You feel good about that?
Speaker 4: He don't know because he might.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's seventy eight, that means he probably did
Speaker 1: seventy of these motherfuckers last year. So this nie got
Speaker 1: the nuke the codes.
Speaker 2: It's it's like it changes what they say suddenly and
Speaker 2: then or gradually.
Speaker 3: Then suddenly it's like you go through as people get older.
Speaker 2: Sixty five, seventy Now it's like, oh you're an expert,
Speaker 2: you're a genius, and then like the next day you're
Speaker 2: incompetent train wreck. Like it's so, let me get this right.
Speaker 1: Jobs, would you prefer somebody thirty eight to do your
Speaker 1: heart surgery? About seventy eight? Thirty eight? Give me the
Speaker 1: man seventy eight. He didn't did this a thousand times.
Speaker 1: Don't get that? Yeah, a stroke, shit operating on your ass.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight. He just got out of medical school. He
Speaker 1: don't know shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's gonna be able to complete the surge.
Speaker 1: For man, Nobody thirty eight. Thirty eight did nothing great
Speaker 1: for humanity.
Speaker 4: See, I wouldn't even let it seventy eight year old
Speaker 4: do mow my lawn.
Speaker 1: I would not. That's different. I would let somebody thirty
Speaker 1: eight moved my line. But I would definitely take somebody
Speaker 1: in their seventies to do my heart surgery their experience
Speaker 1: and after wisdom. Okay, to properly be able.
Speaker 4: To perform a search for you have to have one
Speaker 4: steady ends exactly.
Speaker 1: That's the most important.
Speaker 4: Stuff like this, or have and be absent minded. You
Speaker 4: can forget some shit. I forget. I go to them
Speaker 4: all sometimes I'm not nowhere near no.
Speaker 1: Seventy eight, and I forget what pork mark cars.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you think I'm a trust a seventy eight year
Speaker 4: old man to do some shit for me. Something is
Speaker 4: that fraggile.
Speaker 3: And innovation favors the young. That's demonstrated.
Speaker 2: So a seventy eight year old might be an expert
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventies style surgery.
Speaker 3: For the thirty eight year old is going to be.
Speaker 2: The expert in the most cutting edge for your least
Speaker 2: invasive technology.
Speaker 1: Nobody's thirty eight. He's not an expert than anything in
Speaker 1: thirty eight. In the medical field, that's actually not true.
Speaker 1: Haven't been a nurse for thirty something years. You go
Speaker 1: to medical school. Let's see. Let's see you go to
Speaker 1: college eighteen if you want a fast if you want
Speaker 1: to attract to medical school, you're smart. So you're graduating
Speaker 1: four years as twenty two. If you go to med school,
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's another ten years another couple of
Speaker 1: you know, including a couple of years for interning and
Speaker 1: all of that. You not no goddamn expert. At thirty eight,
Speaker 1: you're not an expert, but at thirty eight you're pretty
Speaker 1: good at it.
Speaker 3: Let's look at Omar, right. Omar's about that age.
Speaker 2: He's in the middle of his residency at U Penn,
Speaker 2: which is the best training place for heart surgery in
Speaker 2: the world. He's doing ninety hours a week basically of
Speaker 2: that every week for six years. So when he's out
Speaker 2: at about thirty eight, because I think he's without thirty
Speaker 2: three now, he'll probably never be as honed in of
Speaker 2: an expert as that because he won't do that type
Speaker 2: of concentration of workload for that long a period of
Speaker 2: time with that type of equipment.
Speaker 3: Any day after that.
Speaker 1: I'm not having it. I'm not fucking with none of
Speaker 1: y'all talking about. I would rather somebody who I need
Speaker 1: my doctor to be somewhere between fifty and seventy. He
Speaker 1: had to have no experience to see enough ship to
Speaker 1: where he should be talking to me. If some motherfucker
Speaker 1: is thirty, I don't even think I want to hear
Speaker 1: motherfucker under thirty five rap no more. That's how bad
Speaker 1: he's gotten. What you hate, no old rappers.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 4: If that was the case, we wouldn't have no future.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: No, we don't have a future. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: We got a number of cats over thirty five is
Speaker 4: actually making some noise in hip hop, so shout out
Speaker 4: to the ogs is putting it down.
Speaker 1: Don't be aheaded g No, no, no, no, he's under thirty five.
Speaker 1: Under thirty is not thinking. That's why I know he's sleepy.
Speaker 1: He looks sleepy. And see that's the problem. Some motherfuckers
Speaker 1: grow up over fifty. They not even he liked Biden.
Speaker 3: Hendy's voting for Biden again.
Speaker 4: I'm not voting for fighting. You got me fucked up.
Speaker 1: You voted vote for Trump.
Speaker 4: I'm not voting for nobody. I might vote for the
Speaker 4: other guy.
Speaker 1: Who is somebody who knocking Yeah, Kennedy, that motherfucker Barey
Speaker 1: could talk. The problem with him is his manager is
Speaker 1: she said that she basically was a Trump supporter, like
Speaker 1: they got it on tape saying that ship. Listen, I
Speaker 1: think any real human being is probably a Trump supporter.
Speaker 4: You I like Donald Trump better than not do Biden.
Speaker 4: I like Donald Trump a lot more than I like
Speaker 4: Bien Action.
Speaker 1: You remember, you remember telling your ass about this, and
Speaker 1: I made.
Speaker 4: A mistake voting for Biden. I will say that.
Speaker 1: That you did. But what I'm saying jobs is what
Speaker 1: I prefer about Trump. And again I'm probably the worst.
Speaker 1: I'm not a political expert. I just like real people.
Speaker 1: And you know what I appreciate about Trump and office.
Speaker 1: You get the real version of motherfuckers. You don't get
Speaker 1: this version of motherfuckers that they acting like they is
Speaker 1: or they're putting on the show. This nigga spent their
Speaker 1: whole life line the niggas. That's every human being breathing.
Speaker 1: There ain't no motherfucking body walking around here telling the truth.
Speaker 1: Who listen all that shit, I'm not buying that, Like
Speaker 1: motherfuckers is the beacon of some kind of level truth.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's been playing it like motherfuckers like suckers. They hold
Speaker 1: every politician matter of fact. He's the perfect person for
Speaker 1: the job, because that's what mother lying the whole time.
Speaker 1: Their job is to make you feel better about shit
Speaker 1: that they know they can't change. Trump ain't even gonna
Speaker 1: make you feel better. He's just gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's fucked up. Next thing. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Again, this is not a political reasoning. Like, if I
Speaker 1: voted primarily based off politics, it probably would be Trump.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to get into that. What I'm
Speaker 1: getting into if the president should represent the American people,
Speaker 1: I think Trump is a much better representation of where
Speaker 1: American people are currently, and Biden is the version of people.
Speaker 1: They would like to lie and be like. People be
Speaker 1: talking shit about Trump. They be like, man, Trump me
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I'm like, nigga, how are you on Twitter?
Speaker 4: Well? The only thing about Trump is this, you have
Speaker 4: to know what you're getting yourself into because no one
Speaker 4: able to control him. That's what we always had an
Speaker 4: insurrection at the White House, you know, getting his ass
Speaker 4: out the last time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't care about white people tripping on
Speaker 1: white people. Since when did niggas ever care about that
Speaker 1: in life?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you that, g until the motherfucker's become
Speaker 4: a despot. Trump has all the makings of a motherfucking despot.
Speaker 2: You have that right now, Stele. What would he do
Speaker 2: try to prosecute and keep the other contenders from running?
Speaker 3: Would that be somebody that a despot would do like
Speaker 3: what they're doing now? What would that be?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What would the.
Speaker 4: Supreme h like styling? You know, one of them motherfuckers
Speaker 4: that get in absolute power, they really just lose their mind.
Speaker 2: So like making executive orders, getting overruled by the court
Speaker 2: and then making the order again. Is if the court
Speaker 2: doesn't exist and isn't the thing, that would be something
Speaker 2: that would be totalitarian.
Speaker 4: Yep, absolute power, that's it, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, she said something to
Speaker 4: me about six months ago. He said that people have
Speaker 4: to be lived ultimately. And I say this to me
Speaker 4: being a Christian man, because I believe it to be
Speaker 4: a guy. So I put that out there first and foremost.
Speaker 4: But man would have found something to worship anyway. Man
Speaker 4: needs to.
Speaker 1: Be live, no siilings gl I got my brother Pete
Speaker 1: in the spot. I got my big brother Steel, and
Speaker 1: I brought one of my homeboys from a podcast based
Speaker 1: out of Detroit, Intellectual Petty. My boy Jobs Jobs is
Speaker 1: really dope, man, y'all, y'all really need to go check
Speaker 1: out Intellectually Petty Radios. Really good, great podcast. I brought
Speaker 1: him on and had this conversation, and I see it's
Speaker 1: going somewhere else, but I'm gonna let the conversation go
Speaker 1: where it so let me get this right. So you're
Speaker 1: saying you would prefer a doctor that thirty eight versus
Speaker 1: a doctor that's seventy eight, Yes, you motherfuckers is crazy.
Speaker 4: Why you want an old ass man at the wheel?
Speaker 1: I would prefer an older life. I would prefer an
Speaker 1: older person for me to do business with anybody. Now,
Speaker 1: if we cutting grass, thirty eight could work, he healthy, strong,
Speaker 1: young could cut the grass at thirty eight. Everything else,
Speaker 1: I need an older person who has experienced. I don't
Speaker 1: want no young motherfucker. I don't know shit about nothing
Speaker 1: well on this panel, in this particular segment, I think
Speaker 1: I would be considered the expert as I have been
Speaker 1: in the medical field for decades. Facts, Wait, no, let
Speaker 1: you tell I'm glad you brought that up. Jobs your
Speaker 1: profession in the medical field. Imagine a motherfucker trying to
Speaker 1: tell you something at thirty eight. You think motherfucker's in
Speaker 1: a at thirty something, thirty eight, no more than you.
Speaker 1: You know how much shit you haven't seen? Jobs? No, no,
Speaker 1: you are isolating the need of this doctor. What you
Speaker 1: know is extremely valuable, that's true. Not gonna you know,
Speaker 1: the seventy eight year old has got more experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the actual being able to do the task of
Speaker 1: cutting on somebody's heart. Somebody's thirty eight has got the
Speaker 1: physical wherewithal to do that without a fear of fucking
Speaker 1: up as a result of being old.
Speaker 3: Are you old?
Speaker 1: Man? Like I'm fifty two and there's just certain shit
Speaker 1: that I can't do the same as I was able
Speaker 1: to do when I was twenty five.
Speaker 4: Try as young as big.
Speaker 1: Facts, I take my chances, which I don't even want
Speaker 1: a nigga twenty five drawing my blood, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's not that deep.
Speaker 4: Drawing blood young people, man.
Speaker 1: I have zero Still, I've lived my life at every
Speaker 1: level the way I'm supposed to. When I was young,
Speaker 1: I understood the benefits of being young, and I talk shit.
Speaker 1: As I get older, I understand the benefits of being older.
Speaker 1: So I talked shit. Wherever I'm at is the right
Speaker 1: place to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I can you know what, I can appreciate that, bro.
Speaker 4: But when you start talking about a man that's seventy
Speaker 4: eight years old, right, he starts to battle certain things, like,
Speaker 4: you know, like shaky hands, like small blanks in the memory.
Speaker 4: Now what if he happens to have one of those
Speaker 4: small blanks, one of those things. Well, I know you're
Speaker 4: supposed to go up under the A order or was
Speaker 4: that over the A order. I'm get some shit that's
Speaker 4: really basic and routinary to you. Seriously, as you get older,
Speaker 4: your cognitive functions start to decline a lot. Dog, it's
Speaker 4: not even close.
Speaker 1: I bet you get it right though.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm like, why take the chance on my heart?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't rather take that chance on my heart that
Speaker 4: you fuck up on me. And it's aty fifty roller
Speaker 4: the dice. I'm gonna go with the young man.
Speaker 3: Let's say.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight or seventy eight. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: even be a pilot of seventy eight.
Speaker 4: I want to hell. No, I don't want nobody saving here,
Speaker 4: nothing to get my life. The only thing to do
Speaker 4: seveny here can do for me is cook my hamburger.
Speaker 1: I don't want that one thing. I don't want him
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 4: No no life, no life renting and ship pilot.
Speaker 1: And anything technical, anything that requires experience. I want the
Speaker 1: person with more experience. Man, I don't want a seventy
Speaker 1: eight year old Uber driver. Go ahead, because they don't
Speaker 1: take no fucking ties to drive, no fucking card. You
Speaker 1: want you okay with a seventy eight year old Uber driver? Listen, No,
Speaker 1: but that don't take no skills to drive a fucking Uber.
Speaker 4: A seventy eight year old Uber driver is probably gonna
Speaker 4: talk you to death.
Speaker 3: They're gonna crash you to death.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go twos an hour on the freeway, they
Speaker 1: gonna get to I'm getting a fucking accident. Right again.
Speaker 4: They could only cook my hamburger.
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't want nobody under thirty five
Speaker 1: rapping to me. No more. I don't want nobody thirty
Speaker 1: five doing nothing that requires skill set or experience. Somebody
Speaker 1: thirty five could make me a hamburger. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1: But once you once you get past hamburger and it
Speaker 1: started being skill level, even soulful. I don't want nobody
Speaker 1: in the thirty five making my soul food. You don't
Speaker 1: even got enough soul.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
Speaker 4: I will say this, there are some anomalies. My daughter,
Speaker 4: jazz Man, she would be twenty next month, and man,
Speaker 4: she cook just like my mama. Do I swear man,
Speaker 4: that looks.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't say if she would cook food nasty?
Speaker 4: No, yes I would because I'm a good cook.
Speaker 1: So you would say your daughter makes nasty food.
Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, she couldn't cook. My wife can't cook.
Speaker 4: Maria is very basic. Maria make good.
Speaker 1: Ahead of time. I'm not cutting this out, so don't
Speaker 1: get to talking ship about Myrina. No, I'm not cutting
Speaker 1: this out. You have made me and Peachcrab a fucking
Speaker 1: podcast before with you and your reckless mouth two times.
Speaker 1: Welcome walk today. You shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4: But she she'll tell you that she's all that.
Speaker 1: She does not want you telling the people you can't cook.
Speaker 1: This is the type of get you a ship yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably not gonna go over well, bro, I gotta
Speaker 1: have make by that little party fucking still man. Now,
Speaker 1: I gotta scrub the name everything, the name nigga.
Speaker 3: Believe it like it's bad language.
Speaker 1: My wife was a wonderful person.
Speaker 4: My wife is wonderful.
Speaker 1: Look doing this because all this ship I have to beat.
Speaker 1: You know, this comes up this. See that's the thing
Speaker 1: I appreciate about still getting older, right, because that still
Speaker 1: get older, he gets more blunt, right. But the problem
Speaker 1: is he come to his census after the podcast is over,
Speaker 1: and we.
Speaker 5: And then it comes on the podcast and where I
Speaker 5: go the whole time like he just in it.
Speaker 1: He in his zone. As soon as that podcast is over,
Speaker 1: he'll be like, delete all that ship. And then you
Speaker 1: just ain't got no podcast. We can't hear if you're
Speaker 1: talking to us. Okay, you ain't talking to us. Your
Speaker 1: phone is muted.
Speaker 3: We gotta pivot to the the main topic.
Speaker 1: Of no, no, we don't. We were cool. We right here.
Speaker 3: We do have to touch that at some point. It's
Speaker 3: a good topic.
Speaker 4: That was my best y'all. That that was I had
Speaker 4: to I had to take that call.
Speaker 1: That was something. Thank you. My biologies no words, no worries,
Speaker 1: but we beeping all that ship because we're not deleting
Speaker 1: this podcast. And I'm not going to.
Speaker 4: Because I didn't say nothing wrong. There's something that is
Speaker 4: common knowledge in this house.
Speaker 1: Please stop.
Speaker 2: Well that was common knowledge in this town.
Speaker 1: The world. Please God, you have to keep going to stop.
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody young doing ship. As I get older,
Speaker 1: I started to realize young people don't know ship.
Speaker 2: This is an interesting boy Like, like you know the
Speaker 2: the Loop book I'm reading. They talking about military and
Speaker 2: art art of military innovation in case studies how stopping
Speaker 2: down youth into a lot of the middle officer ranks
Speaker 2: in the field yield to a far more innovative outcome
Speaker 2: in military strategy. So like, if you want anything new,
Speaker 2: any new ideas, any unique problem solving, you don't want
Speaker 2: like calcified brain channels that only are trained to think
Speaker 2: one singular way to one singular outcome, So that that's
Speaker 2: the weak side of the old deal. On the other side,
Speaker 2: in a broader, maybe more difficult system, like with a
Speaker 2: lot of input factors or whatever the heck, you you've
Speaker 2: been around the block enough times to where you can
Speaker 2: recognize what different input factors are.
Speaker 3: Going to do words.
Speaker 2: You see a lot of young millennial bumpkins or whatever
Speaker 2: the heck. They have these grandiose ideas, but they haven't
Speaker 2: thought of all the things that could go wrong yet.
Speaker 3: Because I haven't seen anything go wrong yet.
Speaker 1: I get the benefit of agent and getting young Peter
Speaker 1: to mask your question. It's gonna be a weird question.
Speaker 1: Who should be allowed to say the N word? Question? Right?
Speaker 1: And obviously, you know only I think we have to
Speaker 1: do this because this is kind of the hip hop dynamic, right.
Speaker 1: We have guys that make hip hop, we have guys
Speaker 1: that digest hip hop. But I've really wanted to notice
Speaker 1: because people have been in my comments, they on Twitter, Facebook,
Speaker 1: and and and I've just been hearing this conversation. So
Speaker 1: it's just been you know, really, you know, plague in
Speaker 1: my mind. And I feel like Pete is the perfect
Speaker 1: person because even though Pete's culture keeping around, you know,
Speaker 1: fucking with us, he also knows that that word is
Speaker 1: off limits. And I'm asking him who does he feel
Speaker 1: like it's appropriate? It's it's dope because it's somebody that's
Speaker 1: somebody that that knows, like, I'm not fucking with that
Speaker 1: word I'm not gonna use it. That ain't my shit
Speaker 1: to even fuck with, but I would like to hear
Speaker 1: his opinion on who should be using it?
Speaker 2: In general speak, the only the weirdest thing about it,
Speaker 2: it's the only word in the English language that you
Speaker 2: can't even say.
Speaker 3: It's not like.
Speaker 2: Joe shouldn't say that to Bill, But I watched it
Speaker 2: happen so I could tell the story as I saw it.
Speaker 2: I have to edit the story as I saw it
Speaker 2: and redefine it by saying the end word. I can't
Speaker 2: even say what Bill said, the Bob or whatever the
Speaker 2: fun like that's that is, by itself, that's really unique.
Speaker 1: But who do you feel should be using it? Were you?
Speaker 3: Like, you know what, you're less less people than currently do?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not mad at that, you know.
Speaker 2: In general speak, I also think that there's probably more
Speaker 2: social context to it, Like I don't have a desire
Speaker 2: to do that, but there's been no shortage of hundreds
Speaker 2: of people from your community that have referred to me as.
Speaker 3: That and not in the mean way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously they wasn't being as reasoning as a racial slur.
Speaker 3: No, No, it wasn't even me. It's just just as fine.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it just means in a lot of context, just
Speaker 2: a it's a male you know.
Speaker 1: Well, you definitely use it in a lot of colorful
Speaker 1: ways jobs black people, not black people, only black people.
Speaker 1: And I'll be a little bit more specific foundational black Americans. Oh,
Speaker 1: be honest, I can't get it. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get to Ricon here to cus his ass out. Okay, Still,
Speaker 1: who should be using the.
Speaker 4: Word, you know what? To be honest with you, it
Speaker 4: should be only to find the black people. But I
Speaker 4: don't even think we should be saying it no more.
Speaker 4: I think it's a word. I think it's a word
Speaker 4: that could be eliminated from the lex kind of the
Speaker 4: black collquialisms, and it wouldn't make us none. I think
Speaker 4: it would be great. I think it would be good.
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful that we got something to make
Speaker 1: white folks uncomfortable, respectfully, you know what's funny. I'm going
Speaker 1: to go further. I think, really it's not about black people.
Speaker 1: I think that word a real slang word, especially the
Speaker 1: way is used as a term of endearment. It's really
Speaker 1: a slang word. It's a street word.
Speaker 4: Yeah, until you go to the Midwest. It picks up
Speaker 4: a different meaning really quick.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, unfortunately, you know, that's the point of
Speaker 1: every ghetto having the right to apply it as they
Speaker 1: see fit, right, And that's why I say it's really
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the problem too though, Like like,
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with a lot of actually I
Speaker 1: didn't grow up with any any any Hispanics at all,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't don't. I don't want
Speaker 1: a Mexican dude coming into my neighborhood talking about nigga. No, bro,
Speaker 1: you I don't. I don't think you would have that
Speaker 1: happening in your community because you're because the community you
Speaker 1: grew up in is pretty much primarily brothers. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: But where we share space or like New York share space.
Speaker 1: Like it's been a big conversation with with a Fat
Speaker 1: Joe and somebody's asking me how I thought about it,
Speaker 1: Some guys that kind of identify under the FBA, and
Speaker 1: they asked me how I thought about it. I said, well, really,
Speaker 1: you got to talk to the people from a projects
Speaker 1: for green projects like those is his people and those
Speaker 1: are the ones that coach really raise him though, Man,
Speaker 1: them niggas don't don't have nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: Well that's the pla. Do you use that ship with
Speaker 1: them niggas? It don't give you no automatic just blank checked,
Speaker 1: a blank nigga check across humanity. No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a blank check. But I
Speaker 1: think it's disingenuous to say something that somebody has been
Speaker 1: using their whole life as part of a community, that
Speaker 1: nobody even blinked the eye, and then you wake up
Speaker 1: one day and just don't care because you care about
Speaker 1: how you feel about it. But that's to me that
Speaker 1: every day when we go to work. Yeah, but to me,
Speaker 1: this is an argument you should have with other black
Speaker 1: people in Fort Green if that was the case. What
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Is your like the three of you you in general,
Speaker 2: like the opinion that it's sort of evolved into not
Speaker 2: a term that is exclusively for black people to say,
Speaker 2: but purely a term that is exclusively not for white
Speaker 2: people to say. Because I Aasians all the time, Latinos
Speaker 2: quite often early like DJ Khaled, early albums, you know,
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern.
Speaker 1: You know what, all of them. The problem with it
Speaker 1: is Pete like, this is the thing about culture, there's
Speaker 1: no real sess thing. It's black culture, right, there's culture.
Speaker 1: Culture is a land word. It's not really a word
Speaker 1: determined on idea of racial trying.
Speaker 4: To get none of that when it comes to nigga.
Speaker 1: But I was still on that. But I'm not asking. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not asking, no, I'm not asking. This is the
Speaker 1: thing about where we grew up at. I don't need
Speaker 1: no nigga opinion from Cleveland of Detroit when I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the word that me and my partners used. Shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up and stay over there. That's the point.
Speaker 1: No problem with that, right. It's like, it's like, how
Speaker 1: y'all talk, and how y'all do y'all think where y'all from. Man,
Speaker 1: nobody could say nothing about all the fucked up ship
Speaker 1: y'all got gonna shut the fuck up and do y'all
Speaker 1: ship over there. The problem is when you start trying
Speaker 1: to make a dialogue across the country, nigga, you can't
Speaker 1: speak right here because if you ain't burned that, it
Speaker 1: ain't no nigga. Cleveland burned down one building when Rodney
Speaker 1: King got his ass. Well, but you want to tell
Speaker 1: us how to talk and motherfuckers, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Y'all focus on bone and fucking lebron. Don't say it's
Speaker 1: not why we really the wildest niggas in the world
Speaker 1: because we're gonna trip about everything. But it's it's not
Speaker 1: a mentality. Still, It's not like culturally we some kind
Speaker 1: of disingenuous unblack people. We actually don't take no ship
Speaker 1: from white people. We don't white people. I think that
Speaker 1: we don't have the same problems that the rest of
Speaker 1: y'all got In the Midwest. For y'all let them people
Speaker 1: fly them flags and may be too close. We ain't
Speaker 1: got no issues with Mexicans. No, y'all don't even have
Speaker 1: Mexicans in your community. Point so the ones that's there, No,
Speaker 1: there's a line, don'ts And it's not a line because
Speaker 1: y'all don't grow up together. Y'all not the same. Y'all
Speaker 1: don't grow up culturally the same. Y'all grew up completely separate.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but that's why you can't have this conversation
Speaker 1: because in Los Angeles street urban cultures rooted in one idea,
Speaker 1: it's not rooted in it's not rooted in the concept
Speaker 1: of race neither it is in Detroit, it just happened
Speaker 1: to be y'all all brothers. That's it. But really it's
Speaker 1: not rooted in race, in that term of endearment that
Speaker 1: people grew up with. It's different. I'm not making no
Speaker 1: reason for nobody else to use the word. That's not
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm saying I know how it happened
Speaker 1: where I'm from, and i know how it happened in
Speaker 1: New York. They sound like that. Bro, No, it's not
Speaker 1: because I'm not I'm not gonna fight you over something
Speaker 1: that somebody's saying. I'm expressing to you culturally how it happens.
Speaker 1: I might fight you over something you said and I
Speaker 1: feel you. Some of my friends with there fight you.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, oh, the nigga can't talk to me
Speaker 1: like that, Like you're not a nigga. He like you
Speaker 1: not a nigga neither. Well, we've got a history. I
Speaker 1: was just saying. He told some about who you call
Speaker 1: a nigga. He's like, you not a nigga? He said,
Speaker 1: you not a nigga. Nigga. It was like the weirdest
Speaker 1: moment in the world because I guy would have meant
Speaker 1: but it was like too smart. I was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm glad the dude kind of just got the jest
Speaker 1: of it. It was like it ain't even worth it.
Speaker 1: It walked off because I'm thinking to myself, like, he's like,
Speaker 1: he not a nigga, nobody's a nigga. And I was like,
Speaker 1: but I get his point. I get I get his point.
Speaker 1: I got it. It made sense to me some ship.
Speaker 1: I don't care how right you think you are. It's
Speaker 1: not about do I think I'm right. I don't know
Speaker 1: you person per se, but I'm saying, I don't think
Speaker 1: nobody's writing this conversation.
Speaker 4: I think. I think.
Speaker 1: I think it's very much who you talking to and
Speaker 1: what they feel. That's it. I shut of got I
Speaker 1: think talking to and what they feel, like, how y'all feel.
Speaker 1: I get it, y'all really like where y'all from, Detroit
Speaker 1: and Cleve. Y'all really had to deal with some ship
Speaker 1: with the white folks. So and y'all culturally don't grow
Speaker 1: up and and nothing just rooted and just other brothers.
Speaker 1: That's it, y'all don't share, go ahead, no, I thought
Speaker 1: still did?
Speaker 4: I said?
Speaker 1: Culture? It's like it's like culture is different man, like
Speaker 1: culture is rooted in land. I don't again how everybody
Speaker 1: want to run This ain't no fancy conversation. This is
Speaker 1: a business. It's pretty fucking simple. Don't come in the
Speaker 1: wrong neighborhood saying that ship you get beat the funk up,
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 4: Should exactly you'll be a never encounter no racism. So
Speaker 4: I want to say, ignorant ship, Well, we.
Speaker 1: Encounter and we encounter eighth of racism. We act up.
Speaker 1: We should not, y'all we like l a god. It
Speaker 1: ain't just l a clean have for no act that
Speaker 1: when they encounter ate the racism. And it is different here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 4: Cleveland act up, a Cleveland act the food you would
Speaker 4: have do your research.
Speaker 1: I'm living here because I've been here for a minute now.
Speaker 1: It's like the mindset of the brothers and sisters here's
Speaker 1: a little different than like Detroit. And that's only because
Speaker 1: Detroit is like ninety five percent black people. It was
Speaker 1: Cleveland currently. Oh okay, no, Detroit is what in black people?
Speaker 1: Detroit is like ninety ninety five percent black people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is just crazy. Yeah, so the mentality is a
Speaker 1: lot different than Cleveland. Cleveland's like fifty five fifty fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty five percent black people, and it's pretty it's
Speaker 1: still pretty segregated too, like niggas is on the east
Speaker 1: side and others is on the west side. We got
Speaker 1: a couple still the Cleveland to this day still like that.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: The jobs later now still like that. Like you know,
Speaker 1: the people that venture towards either side outside their community
Speaker 1: has increased. But yeah, for all intents and purposes, black
Speaker 1: folks on on the east side and Hispanics and white
Speaker 1: people on the west side, it's.
Speaker 4: Shaker Heights and Bedford still mixed, kind of like those
Speaker 4: still considered suburbs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know if I would listen
Speaker 1: to y'all when it comes to cultural diversity. Y'all don't
Speaker 1: has a.
Speaker 4: False cultural diversity. It's like it's praising white folks out here.
Speaker 4: They just won't say that because they're scared about scared
Speaker 4: of getting their jobs took.
Speaker 1: In the ship before their jobs getting took, their ass
Speaker 1: was getting whooped.
Speaker 4: That may be in too, but they just less likely
Speaker 4: to say anything outside of the house.
Speaker 1: But it's different. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the east side of Los Angeles. We
Speaker 1: grew up culturally diverse, like l A Street. Urban culture
Speaker 1: is a pot of things put together. It's not how
Speaker 1: mean how many how many Hispanic crips are there? Is it?
Speaker 1: A lot? I know that, Yeah, a lot. Remember Grape
Speaker 1: Streets is a Hispanic crip gang. Like watch video. Grapes
Speaker 1: and Gray Streets my hood?
Speaker 3: Are those the same?
Speaker 2: I thought those those don't those don't beef like regular
Speaker 2: Grape Street, And oh they are, Okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: What all the next Grace Street got WVG on them, okay, Like,
Speaker 1: especially like where I'm from. Like culturally, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: why we so much fucking Mexican food. It's just really
Speaker 1: yea that more than anything.
Speaker 4: I would say probably LA is dominated by probably Hispanic culture.
Speaker 1: Well I think it is today, but I think twenty
Speaker 1: thirty years ago it was a mix, and it made
Speaker 1: La Street agriculture very diverse. So we looked at it differently.
Speaker 1: I mean versus in Cleveland, where everybody else to y'all
Speaker 1: anybody that's not y'all as a threat, especially in Detroit
Speaker 1: or Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Really we always fucked with the Puerto Ricans. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you always fuck with the Puerto Ricans.
Speaker 1: I mean, like Puerto Ricans probably would be a lot
Speaker 1: closer to like, uh, I'm sure you talk about people
Speaker 1: that look like you, they got drag.
Speaker 2: But it's it's different though, when the when the Puerto
Speaker 2: Ricans in your town are two percent and not fifty
Speaker 2: eight percent.
Speaker 1: Facts, yeah yeah, and most of them not really saying
Speaker 1: they Puerto Rican for real because they blending in and
Speaker 1: assimilating like it's.
Speaker 2: They have to get into fit in like they have to.
Speaker 2: You have a different mentality when you're the tiniest group.
Speaker 2: You gotta be polite and stay on your lane even.
Speaker 1: Not you're not are you're not you're not arguing or
Speaker 1: discussing things from a point of power. Yeah, but even
Speaker 1: in New York, Bro, it's like the Puerto Ricans. There
Speaker 1: there's two kinds of perto Ricans. There's a Puerto Ricans
Speaker 1: that know they not black, and there's a Puerto Ricans
Speaker 1: that you don't know that they not black. Feel me,
Speaker 1: so it's different like when you a Mexican person, you
Speaker 1: could see it from where I'm from, you can see
Speaker 1: that they're not black, they don't look black.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's my exact life in my
Speaker 3: New Bill.
Speaker 2: I mean, I am like on the Dominican district line,
Speaker 2: and there's like they're all Dominican, so you don't know
Speaker 2: half of them.
Speaker 3: I don't know they're Dominican until they talk.
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm surprised you don't speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: I do not as good as you don't speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: I do not as good as I used to though
Speaker 1: I used to speak at I mean, I knew everything
Speaker 1: everybody was talking to me because my homeboy's mama talked
Speaker 1: to me in Spanish. But what I'm saying is it
Speaker 1: just depends. So it's like this ain't. This ain't. So
Speaker 1: when the Drake conversation happened with the N word, right,
Speaker 1: it was different because like I got the jest of
Speaker 1: what he's saying, like this is somebody and so me
Speaker 1: and Josh could disagree on this right because he feels
Speaker 1: like he's entitled to it because his father is from Memphis.
Speaker 1: My thing is, if you grew up in in in
Speaker 1: the suburb or Jewish community over in Toronto and your
Speaker 1: Jewish mother, you know what I mean, you probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: be using the N word. It's not something you're entitled
Speaker 1: to just because you're born you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: some level of somebody in your family at one time?
Speaker 1: Where was the slave on American lands?
Speaker 4: This is tricky.
Speaker 3: Conversal, controversial question, your hot button question.
Speaker 1: You know how many white people are gonna envy your
Speaker 1: position to be able to ask black people this ship
Speaker 1: without go ahead? Go ahead, like you were the straight power,
Speaker 1: because white people would love to be in this room
Speaker 1: and be able to ask these questions.
Speaker 2: In your opinion, in the in the hip hop sphere,
Speaker 2: based off of cultural proximity and whatnot, who do you
Speaker 2: think is more justified because one does not you and
Speaker 2: one does. But who, in your opinion, is more justified
Speaker 2: to use the word if they show choose uh Drake
Speaker 2: or Eminem?
Speaker 1: Drake more? If I have probably more Drake. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what's funny?
Speaker 2: No, but that kind of cuts against the point of
Speaker 2: cultural proximity.
Speaker 1: And all this stuff. The only reason why I would
Speaker 1: be worried about Eminem because I know Eminem used it.
Speaker 1: I know he talks to his I knew he talked
Speaker 1: like that somewhere along the line. But and this is
Speaker 1: my problem, bro, It's like hip hop just like slang
Speaker 1: and all of this culture shity. You're not entitled to
Speaker 1: it because somebody in your family was a slave. You're
Speaker 1: not entitled to it. It's really kind of like almost
Speaker 1: like a mild function that you master because of the
Speaker 1: environment you grew up in, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like even in word, Me and Homie was having a
Speaker 1: conversation about it earlier, right and we were talking about
Speaker 1: how Richard Probe really helped transition it over, you know,
Speaker 1: from where God's in the streets was starting to use
Speaker 1: it as a term of endearment because it was still
Speaker 1: frowned upon, even black people frowned that other black people
Speaker 1: because they was trying to denounce them by using that term, like,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to demean them. And then it became
Speaker 1: a term of endearment in some level of streets. And
Speaker 1: then Black Exploitation era happened, and that shit just spread
Speaker 1: wild and people felt entitled to the word. And it's
Speaker 1: really a street word more than this. Why why why
Speaker 1: why can't we be bro? It's one fucking word? Why
Speaker 1: can't we have one fucking word? Because no fucking body
Speaker 1: else got one fucking word? Jobs, they got a.
Speaker 4: Whole We've been through though, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Question.
Speaker 4: I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 1: There's there's there's no words job that white people use
Speaker 1: that we can't use. There's no words job fucking Asian
Speaker 1: people use that we can't use. There's no word job.
Speaker 1: There's no other word. The only other people in this
Speaker 1: world that have a word is not really something that
Speaker 1: you're You're born like you could just be one day
Speaker 1: and then can't nobody use that word? And that's you
Speaker 1: know what. The white folks also have the ability to
Speaker 1: approve our loans. They have the ability to admit us
Speaker 1: to schools or to training. They got a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of ship that that that predominantly they and they alone
Speaker 1: are able to do. We get one word. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you I'm not. I'm not. Look, I'm not.
Speaker 1: God damn it. This is not the point. Because you're
Speaker 1: making me sound like I'm defending white people or somebody
Speaker 1: using his work. That's not the point. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: The word is a slang word. I don't know. Like
Speaker 1: I said, when Drake was even saying it, it always
Speaker 1: made me cringe because I'm like, he don't talk like this.
Speaker 1: I crench more in Fat Joe saying that shit than Drake. Huh.
Speaker 1: I crane way more in Fat Joe saying it than Drake.
Speaker 4: I've never in my life derived and it's a word
Speaker 4: that derived from a real bad time in our history
Speaker 4: of black African American people, slavery. No, it's a derivative slavery.
Speaker 4: No matter how you can call the slang word, the evolus, liver,
Speaker 4: the whatever, Let's get down to the root.
Speaker 1: It's ruted.
Speaker 4: Like look at this evil history. Like I don't even
Speaker 4: know what we're saying that shit. I don't even know
Speaker 4: why we celebrates saying that shit.
Speaker 1: I don't think we celebrate. Don't be want to see.
Speaker 1: This is the problem when you get old too, because
Speaker 1: you start making it. Nobody celebrate the word.
Speaker 4: You just see them just that's what me and my
Speaker 4: homies want for You want to use we should what
Speaker 4: y'all got going on?
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is street. I mean, that's pretty
Speaker 1: much what I'm saying. Fuck them, I don't care. You
Speaker 1: can come up with any any fancy terminology you can.
Speaker 1: It's a word, bro, It's our word. Don't use the ship.
Speaker 1: It's not our word. It's our word. It's not That's
Speaker 1: what I say I'm not entitled to this word. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that one, and that's my problem. Like
Speaker 1: it's not our word, like hip hop ain't our code.
Speaker 1: We're not all entitled to it. It's something.
Speaker 4: Or are you saying so, Are we're saying that Drake
Speaker 4: can't use it? Right?
Speaker 3: Say that?
Speaker 4: You say, isn't that your whole point, that Drake shouldn't
Speaker 4: be allowed to say it? Oh?
Speaker 1: I thought that was your point too. No, I said,
Speaker 1: I cringe when I heard it say that, because he
Speaker 1: don't talk like that to me. He didn't talk like
Speaker 1: that to most of us. And it does sound weird.
Speaker 1: It'd be like a hearty aw, it just be weird.
Speaker 1: And I could just tell this is Remember that's his
Speaker 1: accent too, though, bro accent something because you know why
Speaker 1: he never called me by that word is something we use, brother,
Speaker 1: because everybody talks to us that way. My dad called
Speaker 1: me a little nigga when I was little. My mom
Speaker 1: called me a nigga inside outside the house nigga. So
Speaker 1: that's where the slang, that's where the culture of it
Speaker 1: all comes. Drake Jewish mom shout out to that woman
Speaker 1: was not calling him that in the house. His friends
Speaker 1: at his Jewish school, like I heard him talking shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I grew up on Western Road. Then when I got
Speaker 1: to the fifth grade and I was ten and we moved. Nigga,
Speaker 1: you were raised where you moved to. You feel me
Speaker 1: so like everything about my existence is that word. That's
Speaker 1: why I use the words. It's like apple pie to me,
Speaker 1: it's mine. It's literally how we talk to each other.
Speaker 1: So even if it's like me trying to stop using
Speaker 1: the word, you know, hello, that's how much I heard
Speaker 1: nigga as much as I heard hello. And I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that's.
Speaker 4: Why I from here on the words. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: it no more.
Speaker 1: But you my nigga still yeah, I mean, and I
Speaker 1: salute you. I salute you for that, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to stop.
Speaker 2: I said two quick questions as a panel, do the
Speaker 2: three of you feel that there is the potential for
Speaker 2: sort of like a sub like some sort of semi
Speaker 2: subliminal psychological ramifications of the community, you know, using a
Speaker 2: negatively historic word all the time as as frequently.
Speaker 3: As it does, or none?
Speaker 1: What's the question, like.
Speaker 2: Are there are there negative psychological ratifications for the community
Speaker 2: at large in the constant reference to that No.
Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe, I mean, I wouldn't be a therapist
Speaker 1: to know, Like I think that's more like a psychologist,
Speaker 1: like you have to ask somebody. Does that create a
Speaker 1: level of of you know, I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: the right person to ask. I don't have my that
Speaker 1: on that. But I'll tell you this, like I get
Speaker 1: what Jobs are saying, right, because they don't grow up
Speaker 1: with anybody else for brothers, so they talk to each
Speaker 1: other like that, right, still was from Cleveland, where you
Speaker 1: know they're separated. Jobs don't really got they only got
Speaker 1: thirteen white people in Detroit, but from the white people
Speaker 1: that don't even like black people, so they literally stay
Speaker 1: completely segregated. So for sure, when they heard the term
Speaker 1: the whole time, it probably with somebody being addicted to
Speaker 1: them because they talk.
Speaker 3: To you know, I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Racist now, Yeah, there are plenty of people in Ohio
Speaker 4: that's not racist too.
Speaker 1: Probably not. I think machine Gun Kelly is racist? You
Speaker 1: think so?
Speaker 2: Statistically, not that it's a great metric, but it does
Speaker 2: segue into my second question. Statistically, Ohio has the highest
Speaker 2: per capita and a racial relationship rate in the Country's anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all in Cleveland though, Bro, Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: literally like one or two cities at least in the
Speaker 1: Great Columbus.
Speaker 3: Always very common Columbus.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what, I just uh, we
Speaker 1: just went to Columbus for a few days this past week,
Speaker 1: and maybe it was where we was at, but I
Speaker 1: didn't see not one in the race.
Speaker 3: I've never been to Ohio. There's just stuff.
Speaker 1: I've Ohio a lot. I've been. You know what, I
Speaker 1: would have thought Minnesota. Minnesota got a lot of mixed cup.
Speaker 2: On that topic, though, Do the three of you find
Speaker 2: it offensive if a white girl starts sucking a black
Speaker 2: guy and then thinks they can use it the next morning,
Speaker 2: because that seems to be common on the internet.
Speaker 1: Get beat the fuck up, you know what. I don't
Speaker 1: think she needs and I think everything bad in life
Speaker 1: is gonna happen to her. You know, you just seakass
Speaker 1: well to keep it moving, because there's some sick niggas, Bro,
Speaker 1: Like Kanye is another nigga that's sick. Like I remember
Speaker 1: them text message I read and he was just you
Speaker 1: know that's the problem. Like, look, do I think Dre
Speaker 1: should be saying it? I don't even I don't think
Speaker 1: it's my job the police, you know, And I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you, like I feel more entitled to police
Speaker 1: hip hop because I actually went out and earned my
Speaker 1: respect and that I went out and earned the knowledge
Speaker 1: the N word. I don't feel like it's my right
Speaker 1: to police it unless I know you mean it to
Speaker 1: me derogatory or if you make me feel funny saying
Speaker 1: it to me. Because I've had people say it to
Speaker 1: me that made me feel fun I was like, don't
Speaker 1: ever say that to me again. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but just to me. You might have said to somebody
Speaker 1: else in the work out, you know, I mean, just
Speaker 1: not to me. But I feel more empowered to like
Speaker 1: my birth right is everything that I am, but I
Speaker 1: don't know about you know. It's like so I don't
Speaker 1: know enough about it. I focus on the things I
Speaker 1: know the most about now. I don't care if you
Speaker 1: black as the Knight or white as the White as
Speaker 1: the clouds if I feel you're trying to you know,
Speaker 1: to mean me when you're saying it. Were in a fight, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you, so do I got up. Mesican hommies
Speaker 1: they used any word, Yeah, they they've been niggas. They've
Speaker 1: been my niggas their whole life. Some of them won't
Speaker 1: say it to nobody else because they know that they're
Speaker 1: not supposed to use it or they can make somebody
Speaker 1: else feel uncomfortable. So I respect them homies too, like
Speaker 1: I respect the hommies like that.
Speaker 4: You know what, man, The thing is like, if I
Speaker 4: hear somebody like the homie Mexican most said, he probably
Speaker 4: don't say it around a million times round less. We
Speaker 4: ain't paying attention because he's one of us.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And it's weird because he's he's
Speaker 1: smart enough to not he know like he's ours only. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's your responsibility also, Like and let's say you
Speaker 1: and a couple of your homeboys walking through downtown Detroit
Speaker 1: and some Mexican dude says nigga, and we look at
Speaker 1: that nigga like you need to retract that immediately. Y'all
Speaker 1: all gonna take the penalty for that nigga's actions thereafter,
Speaker 1: But we was all gonna take the penalty anyway. That
Speaker 1: just they don't got to do. My point is like
Speaker 1: where he brought up what he brought up, like for
Speaker 1: inter racial couple. Not only should she be beat up,
Speaker 1: he should beat up too, because it's your responsibility as
Speaker 1: the black person in that relationship if you're going to
Speaker 1: allow that that that terminology around you, that that you
Speaker 1: have that right, but you also need to teach that
Speaker 1: person that if you say that ship out in public,
Speaker 1: we'll both get beat up, and y'all should. I don't
Speaker 1: know if La niggas can see getting beat up, but
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, you know, I think they.
Speaker 1: I think everybody knows it. That's the tricky part. I
Speaker 1: think everybody that's not us knows how people that's not
Speaker 1: us could take the word.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: It's something that really trust me because they don't go
Speaker 1: around just like your boys, your Mexican boys. Culturally they
Speaker 1: grew up where that was acceptable. They may not see
Speaker 1: past their culture, the culture that they grew up in. See.
Speaker 4: I think the Mexican homies, depending on who they are,
Speaker 4: can get away with it. I just think person right.
Speaker 4: I heard Steve Lobo say and elevated one time and
Speaker 4: it was on to my We was at Steve Lobell.
Speaker 1: The dude that man used to manage Bond.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we and we in the hell.
Speaker 3: But I heard Art Leveau in my brain.
Speaker 1: So it's a white guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve Lobell. So he was like, he's like this,
Speaker 4: like this me, we's going up to power one of six.
Speaker 4: You remember para one six at the elevator to go upstairs. Yes,
Speaker 4: And I heard him say, Man, these fucking niggas. But
Speaker 4: and I turned around, I'm looking at all these other niggas.
Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all alone on this. I was so fucking disappointed.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: So now you're gonna get Steve canceled with this ship.
Speaker 1: Why you you felt like you want Steve fade? Don't
Speaker 1: do Steve like that on the public platform. You get
Speaker 1: Steve's fade. Okay, what Steve did that to himself? You
Speaker 1: did that? You said in the public why the hell
Speaker 1: elevator niggas too? You? So you said which niggas specifically?
Speaker 1: Did him say that since you heard about well.
Speaker 4: I don't know who you're talking about.
Speaker 3: He was talking.
Speaker 1: There's a word score system like if he absolutely yes,
Speaker 1: besides you obviously, who went out like a mark? Who
Speaker 1: else did he use it in front of?
Speaker 4: Like it was a whole bunch of people. I think bone.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think this is no. I think Steve's little
Speaker 4: bell known that he's called people niggas, that he says
Speaker 4: the niggas in word up, you said niggas, not niggas
Speaker 4: like they said those niggas. Even even with.
Speaker 1: It makes no difference to me.
Speaker 4: Whether it's the hard difference. A white boy shouldn't be
Speaker 4: saying no nigga. I love Pete the Depp, but Pete,
Speaker 4: but not come talk me talking about some what's up
Speaker 4: my nigga? I always get him like he's crazy as
Speaker 4: a mother. Get this right, so you and Bone doesn't harm.
Speaker 1: He was an elevator, he called some niggas, and all
Speaker 1: the Cleveland niggas an elevator. Didn't say nothing. Oh, some
Speaker 1: l a niggas in that too.
Speaker 4: All they did was to.
Speaker 3: Service elevator, e freight elevator.
Speaker 1: Bone, you, I don't think more than that Steve can
Speaker 1: fit an elevator. So in other words, a bunch of
Speaker 1: Cleveland niggas let a white person call them niggers.
Speaker 4: No, it was some l a niggas on there too,
Speaker 4: which ones ain't ain't for me to say. It ain't
Speaker 4: for me to say.
Speaker 1: You're gonna air boned out yourself and Steve Well, they.
Speaker 4: Was there and they know it was I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: sit here into the lender.
Speaker 1: Wait listen, And it wasn't.
Speaker 4: With the hard DOT he was like, man, we got
Speaker 4: to see boom too, these.
Speaker 1: Niggas you said, these niggers he was talking about that.
Speaker 4: I didn't say all that what with the hard R
Speaker 4: it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But it makes no difference, like the fact that like
Speaker 1: his his handlers And I'm saying this in the in
Speaker 1: the most respectful way, but whoever he has been around
Speaker 1: uh with some melanin representation should have let him know. Bruh.
Speaker 1: You can't just say this around everybody. I'm not knocking
Speaker 1: your neighborhood for growing up with this cat. He didn't
Speaker 1: grow up with Steve. Steve. I'm just whatever, whatever relationship
Speaker 1: I got where you felt comfortable enough to say, this
Speaker 1: guy get to pass. We that pass is not a
Speaker 1: universal pass. That past is the neighborhood passed. As long
Speaker 1: as you willing to fight about it. That's the trick,
Speaker 1: because you're probably gonna to fight it. Yeah, And that's okay.
Speaker 1: You gotta be willing to fight. And I ain't. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna let my
Speaker 1: homeboy get matched out. But I ain't gonna be fighting
Speaker 1: no other brothers because you just call these people these
Speaker 1: niggas ship the throw away because now you've got a problem.
Speaker 1: Move on, Like if you fight me, because I'm fighting
Speaker 1: some white dude that said, nigga, you know what, that's
Speaker 1: a tough place to be in two jobs, Like dude,
Speaker 1: like a nigga who I grew up with, like like
Speaker 1: a Meskan Puner. I grew up with my whole life
Speaker 1: like I got Meskan Punnis like that, like I grew
Speaker 1: up with my whole life, like we starved together, we
Speaker 1: ate together, know my mama, I know their kids and everything.
Speaker 1: And then I'm in like another town like somewhere else
Speaker 1: and a brother hear him talking to me like yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: and he like, hey, what you say? He was like, man,
Speaker 1: I wasn't talking. I was talking to my ponner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what you say? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: he like, I wasn't talking to I was talking about
Speaker 1: Putner And he said you better now you better apologize,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't apologizing for shit. Who should I help jobs?
Speaker 1: If they gett fighting, you should help yourself because we
Speaker 1: fucking all y'all up. That just ain't gonna happen. Job,
Speaker 1: I fuck what town like going to? Everybody gonna be
Speaker 1: in Okay, superman, I'm just saying. I'm not saying everybody's
Speaker 1: got the ass whooped if you're really in the streets
Speaker 1: at some point a million fights. But I bet you
Speaker 1: a motherfuckers got pissed, they got a busted lit. Everybody
Speaker 1: gonna be in a fight. Okay, Well that's fair, I'm saying.
Speaker 3: In that case, then there's no etiquette. That it's barbarism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like my lifelong friend who we grew up together,
Speaker 1: our whole life versus some stranger dude, you know what
Speaker 1: should I do? You could haveb You could never understand
Speaker 1: because y'all didn't grow up with nobody. Y'all don't even
Speaker 1: got no friends like that. No, no, no, no, Actually I
Speaker 1: understand you boys from Detroit. You know it's nine point
Speaker 1: two black people get yours away from my door, hain't it?
Speaker 1: If it's nine point two. If it's nine point two
Speaker 1: black people to every ten people, then what do they know?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I understand, no, no, no, I understand you
Speaker 1: riding for your home.
Speaker 4: Hid from your door.
Speaker 1: Stupid ass dog.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you're talking to a dog.
Speaker 1: It did not, But I get the point of defending
Speaker 1: your friend, and I would expect nothing less from certain individuals. However,
Speaker 1: that my friend, like.
Speaker 4: You know, like even if Peter we were somewhere Peter
Speaker 4: said some dumb shit, I would help Peter, but then
Speaker 4: I was asking what the fuck was going on when
Speaker 4: we got it where we was going. I wouldn't let
Speaker 4: him get beat down, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm just saying, like, if you come, like
Speaker 1: let's say it's five yard in the elevator and Pete says,
Speaker 1: nigga to one of my boys. But we all in Detroit,
Speaker 1: what if he said? But obviously best believe that. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm calling every motherfucker I know, like y'all all taking
Speaker 1: the l that might not happen jobs even nowhere where
Speaker 1: we're at. I don't believe in just conceding fights. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you is, let's say my homeboy
Speaker 1: was talking to me, doesn't matter. So what am I
Speaker 1: supposed to do with my lifelong partner versus somebody offended
Speaker 1: that he offended with that word. Now, I will tell
Speaker 1: you this. I will give you the space to check
Speaker 1: your people. But I'm saying, what if he don't give
Speaker 1: that person a space? What if he like you better
Speaker 1: take that back. He's like, I wasn't talking to me,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my partner. That's not acceptable here, Bro,
Speaker 1: you you fix it or were fixing it? You got
Speaker 1: an option. Detroit is a badass. That's a bad niggas.
Speaker 1: But you can't fix everything. That's why you ain't fixed.
Speaker 1: Y'all can't fix it now what I know. I know
Speaker 1: we can't fix everything, but that particular scenario can absolutely
Speaker 1: be fixed. No, No, that could be rectified immediately. Bro, No,
Speaker 1: because you really can't. This is my point. I'm asking you.
Speaker 1: You know I can't ask you this because y'all don't
Speaker 1: grow up with nobody. I'm just we grow up with people.
Speaker 1: They just look like us.
Speaker 4: What kind of stuff is that?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: We just don't They just.
Speaker 3: Got aboutand my boys.
Speaker 2: It was my first first night I moved to open
Speaker 2: with a dude from East over a rad track with
Speaker 2: a couple of his friends.
Speaker 3: So we go by this club.
Speaker 2: There's a line there said Pete, get out and go
Speaker 2: stand in the line, We're gonna go find parking. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I know this is gonna be
Speaker 2: bad because we're we're getting closer to the front, Like
Speaker 2: these guys are gonna run up and cut the line,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a fighting this line. And behind me,
Speaker 2: all I hear is and were this, in that, in
Speaker 2: this and that for twenty five minutes while these idiots
Speaker 2: are trying to parking lot pimp and leave me hung
Speaker 2: out to dry as we're encroaching at the front of
Speaker 2: this fucking line so casual, Like at some point I
Speaker 2: got a size these guys up because my friends are
Speaker 2: gonna walk up. We're gonna have to fight these people.
Speaker 2: There'sre's no way they're gonna let three people cut the line.
Speaker 2: At the very front.
Speaker 3: It was six Asian dudes from outside of the city.
Speaker 2: The whole time when they walked up, they didn't say shit.
Speaker 1: You know, but I didn't know. I actually enjoy when
Speaker 1: people reference each other as nigga and there's no nigga
Speaker 1: is around. I ain't gonna lie. It kind of brings
Speaker 1: a joy to my heart, like this weird joy. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, don't ask me why, But it just
Speaker 1: looks like they want to be us so bad and
Speaker 1: this is what they think. Like I saw these these
Speaker 1: two Asian people fighting and they like, what's up, nigga? And
Speaker 1: this is nigga is fighting each other punk as nigga.
Speaker 1: Like damn a power that you could take something so
Speaker 1: fucked up and make it to where everybody want to
Speaker 1: be identified as somebody this mistreated in America. Shit fucks
Speaker 1: me up, man, But I don't like it when I
Speaker 1: see somebody rapping a song in the car. If you
Speaker 1: ever put it up with jobs you ain't put you
Speaker 1: know you were still in there put up next to
Speaker 1: nobody else. But what I'm saying is like when you
Speaker 1: be in a car and somebody else is rapping a rap,
Speaker 1: you know that part you look over. I don't like
Speaker 1: that part. I don't know why, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm just being honest with my thoughts. Like
Speaker 1: if I see a video of them, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: That's a weird ship. Bro Huh. That is so weird,
Speaker 1: I know, But I'm just telling you the truth. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's like Paul's like guys who like
Speaker 1: girls feet that's like my fet It's like watching people
Speaker 1: try to think that they us and then like deal
Speaker 1: with confrontation in this weird way and start talking each
Speaker 1: other crazy and posturing like what are y'all doing? But
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. It's like a weird thing that I
Speaker 1: truly enjoy. That is weird, bro. Still my though, I
Speaker 1: know what African people said, how far.
Speaker 4: Right off?
Speaker 1: I only know people only, I only personally, yeah, which
Speaker 1: is different in their versee like you said the accent,
Speaker 1: But he personally know one African person and that's my guy,
Speaker 1: and he grew up. He moved here when he was
Speaker 1: like ten. Oh, I'm glad, so tell us about it.
Speaker 1: So because he is melan and enriched. Oh because he
Speaker 1: sold us in the slaves.
Speaker 3: Slavery enriched.
Speaker 1: Not not every not every culture in Africa sold us
Speaker 1: left me a collaborated effort. I'll be honest. Well, Africa
Speaker 1: is huge, bro, I know, but it's really small when
Speaker 1: it come to Crusade. He said, you said what they
Speaker 1: went on.
Speaker 3: A cruc Sade style military front either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm asking you how did you feel about that? Job?
Speaker 1: Was like somebody that's not the descendant of an Americans
Speaker 1: better because they sold you into Because I'm sure where
Speaker 1: was your partner from? Where where is he Zimbabwe? Well
Speaker 1: they were hopefully they're not that close to the slag,
Speaker 1: but you know what, they kind of close.
Speaker 3: That's pretty far down there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think so, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 6: But my guy, I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Detroit no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not a
Speaker 1: Detroit standard.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 1: That was when I moved here to Cleveland. Okay, what
Speaker 1: about Dominicans when you grew up, did you Dominicans? No,
Speaker 1: I've never met at Dominica. Only have black people outside
Speaker 1: of work, I mean for the like, well, southwest southwest
Speaker 1: Detroit had the Hispanic population popular, I mean the population
Speaker 1: that grew up with. Y'all know what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is in southwest Detroit, black people and Hispanic
Speaker 1: people quite possibly have grown up together, quite possibly, well,
Speaker 1: because that was pretty much where if you were Hispanic
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, you lived in Southwest Detroit.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of black folks lived over there too. Okay,
Speaker 1: but the part of Detroit you lived at, it was
Speaker 1: you only had black friends run to your whole life.
Speaker 1: It was one when we moved over to where I
Speaker 1: grew up at, the whole block was probably fifty fifty
Speaker 1: white people and black people in five years. It was
Speaker 1: done the niggas except for one white family. And they
Speaker 1: were the poorest people in our neighborhood where y'all fucking
Speaker 1: white boy Rick. They were not that advanced. They were
Speaker 1: not that advanced. They just had a bunch of They
Speaker 1: just had a bunch of kids. But they were like
Speaker 1: really they were like poor white trash. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know that. I know that they got a family like that.
Speaker 1: And the who was that I grew up like, I
Speaker 1: know that grew up. They was different. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: that white family that stayed there. When the white flight happened.
Speaker 1: They was like, we're not selling anything. Ronchi as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: They didn't have no choice, but they they We didn't
Speaker 1: fuck with them, and they didn't fuck with us. They
Speaker 1: had like seven eight brothers, so they just did it.
Speaker 1: Like literally, they was on the island by themselves. They
Speaker 1: just grew up amongst themselves. You know, we knew them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they wasn't hanging out such
Speaker 1: a black experience because I've had a black experience, But man,
Speaker 1: I wish it was that black. Oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: when I went to court. When you go to court
Speaker 1: in Detroit, your prosecutor looks like your, your attorney looks
Speaker 1: like your, your jury looks like you, the judge looks
Speaker 1: like you. The fire truck shows up, they all look
Speaker 1: like you. The only the cops got sprinkling.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's still majority black people, but they got a few
Speaker 1: white dudes. But even the white dudes are aware that
Speaker 1: they are in a force full of niggas, so they're
Speaker 1: not doing outland this shit. You know, Like if you
Speaker 1: hear some racist type shit from the cops in Detroit,
Speaker 1: it is generally not a Detroit police officer. It's like
Speaker 1: a shaf for somebody. Yeah, I believe that that's I'm
Speaker 1: in that. That's pretty cool. It is. It is a
Speaker 1: gift and a burden, because it's a burden when you
Speaker 1: move to other communities and you have a sense of
Speaker 1: cultural entitlement that may not translate. Like when I moved
Speaker 1: to Cleveland, she was culture shock.
Speaker 4: Cleveland.
Speaker 1: That bad isn't well culturally. The black people here stay
Speaker 1: on the East Side because they've been told to an
Speaker 1: extent to stay on the east side, don't. I didn't
Speaker 1: have that like black people with Detroit. It's rich, it's
Speaker 1: rich black people, it's poor black people, it's middle class
Speaker 1: black people, niggas anywhere.
Speaker 4: You know what. In Cleveland, at least when I was there,
Speaker 4: people had a tendency if you had a good job
Speaker 4: and you was kind of up, but then you would
Speaker 4: move in one of the heights. You would move to Euclid. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you would move to Shake or Bedford, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, somewhere like that souling. You would kind of
Speaker 4: moved those last little mixed areas, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But but even then, like your your suburbs was
Speaker 1: east side suburbs, Like you wasn't moving to Twins.
Speaker 4: Burd Oh, No, yeah, that's true. You always, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: As I heard to help you over there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a little different now because I've been here
Speaker 1: like twenty five years, So it's different now, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it's if you got money and you black, you may
Speaker 1: be on the west side somewhere. You know. It's definitely
Speaker 1: a lot different than when I first when I first
Speaker 1: moved here, like it was niggas here, Like a lot
Speaker 1: of people that had never left their neighborhood. I had
Speaker 1: never met a person like that that literally had never
Speaker 1: went to the other side of town. And it was
Speaker 1: forty years old. Yeah, that's that's that's crazy. That's not
Speaker 1: even possible. That's the more about it. But you know
Speaker 1: what's funny, the more I think about it, that's why
Speaker 1: that's different in Detroit because their poverty, while it is
Speaker 1: it's poverty, it's not a real poverty because they don't
Speaker 1: feel restricted by the boundaries of race. Yeah they can,
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't probably mind still going to the
Speaker 1: wealthy black neighborhoods because it's black people versus like where
Speaker 1: we're from. Like people when you come to watch like
Speaker 1: you don't want to go too far because you're gonna
Speaker 1: eventually run into some crappy white people. That's racist.
Speaker 4: If you remember Martin Luther King Boulevard back in the
Speaker 4: seventies and the sixties, thead mansions over there.
Speaker 1: But that's not what it's different though, still like like yeah,
Speaker 1: Cleveland got some black people that got some money, but
Speaker 1: like the point is like in Detroit, because you do
Speaker 1: notice that everybody's black all the time. So like like
Speaker 1: where we grew up at still like where you grew
Speaker 1: up and where I grew up what I got. You know,
Speaker 1: I grew up with Mexican folks. So but everybody where
Speaker 1: we're from white people still represents a level of order,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Where you from, white people
Speaker 1: still like white symbolize as wealth, but where jobs is from.
Speaker 1: Originally that's not true because they got poor black people,
Speaker 1: working class, affluent and wealthy black people all in one place.
Speaker 1: Can I gotta give you an example of the mentality
Speaker 1: When I was young, I'm walking downtown and I see
Speaker 1: a white person, They're moving out of my way every time.
Speaker 1: It's not even I'm not saying excus now, I don't
Speaker 1: give the fun what your name was when I when
Speaker 1: I was like up until you know, my young twenties,
Speaker 1: and then when I moved here, Like you walk downtown Cleveland,
Speaker 1: a white person coming, they're not moving. Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: bump their ass or or or you're gonna move out
Speaker 1: the way. White people gonna move over here because they
Speaker 1: think we're crazy. Nigga across the street. This nigga might
Speaker 1: steal my purse, and a.
Speaker 2: Lot of that in l A like honestly, as we've
Speaker 2: talked about before. But like, there isn't a blue collar,
Speaker 2: tough community of white people there. They're all wealthy, soft,
Speaker 2: pampered professional isolated out where the fuck they stay for
Speaker 2: three generations.
Speaker 1: You gotta go. Yeah, you definitely gotta go to the
Speaker 1: outskirts to find regular white people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like there might be some type people
Speaker 2: in the Lancasters of the world or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to have a joke with DJ head Bro
Speaker 1: that white people get one hundred thousand dolls a check
Speaker 1: when they're born in California because it just ain't no
Speaker 1: poor white people like that. You just don't enough of
Speaker 1: for this country, For this state to have thirty or
Speaker 1: forty million people, and it's twenty five million white people.
Speaker 1: You do not see their motherfuckers. You don't see poor
Speaker 1: versions of them, you know how Like you got poor
Speaker 1: black ghettos, right, and like Watch is a poor black meadow, right,
Speaker 1: Compton is kind of like more of a working class
Speaker 1: but still kind of poor black ghetto. East LA is
Speaker 1: like a poor Mexican ghett a loan beach man lately.
Speaker 4: Huh have you been to Anaheim and Stanton lately? It
Speaker 4: was a very much poor white community. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but they're not get the ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the ghetto. It's not the ghetto.
Speaker 4: Take a trip over there.
Speaker 1: I've been trying.
Speaker 3: It's a giant meth heaven haven.
Speaker 1: That's just kind of that's not it. It's different. It's
Speaker 1: a little different. Like I've been there. I know y'all
Speaker 1: talking about it. Got some little rough areas of power.
Speaker 3: It's n l rs and myth. That's all that they got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they probably have the meth laugh there, and
Speaker 1: the city funds it the money. But but you know what, job,
Speaker 1: that's a great point, dog, I never thought about that.
Speaker 1: That's probably why y'all stands. Is the way y'all stands is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it gives you a sense of power. It gives you
Speaker 1: a sense of power that you don't see very often.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker. You're like, okay, I need to reset my mind.
Speaker 1: Well generally, like I got called arrogant for the first
Speaker 1: decade I was here, And with me being arrogant, it
Speaker 1: was just me being comfortable, sure, and not having a
Speaker 1: problem telling white folks how I felt. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's my problem too in La too. And and it
Speaker 1: still might be right, or he might be right. It's
Speaker 1: because it is a different kind of white person here
Speaker 1: that got some money, so they gonna they're not finna know,
Speaker 1: threatening their existence over some ego pride shit. Atlanta must
Speaker 1: be the exact same way, or it was at one time.
Speaker 1: That's not sure. Because Atlanta had wealthy black people. Buckhead
Speaker 1: was always wealthy. They always had affluent black communities, and
Speaker 1: then they had poor black community. So Atlanta and Detroite
Speaker 1: are kind of the places that I know the most
Speaker 1: like that. I don't really think I know anywhere else
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: Probably DC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, A long time.
Speaker 3: The year kind of was.
Speaker 2: I remember fifteen years ago the first time I spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time down here, and I remember driving
Speaker 2: down University, which terms of the twenty seventh that's a
Speaker 2: forty five minute drive. I didn't see anybody that wasn't
Speaker 2: that wasn't black, And as you go there's four languages
Speaker 2: being spoken. So like if you were born there and
Speaker 2: like didn't know, or like came out of a spaceship pod,
Speaker 2: you think that the whole world was black because everybody
Speaker 2: was black, and they're all speaking different languages, and they
Speaker 2: dress different, and they active or whatever.
Speaker 3: Like the whole world converges there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not talking about like African descent. We talk
Speaker 1: about people I know what you mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, like from.
Speaker 1: Well mineus, the Caribbean presence. It's dark people versus when
Speaker 1: you go to Detroit and Atlanta, it's like black people,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. His version, although I
Speaker 1: think that historically Atlanta, Georgia was just more known for
Speaker 1: overt racism outside of Atlanta, sure like, and Michigan has
Speaker 1: always been more of a liberal state period. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they do have a lot of white other white
Speaker 1: people in Michigan, but they're they not obviously the white
Speaker 1: people from Georgia. What Georgia Georgia is right now just
Speaker 1: some high schools I think last year just having integrated proms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they wild wild out there. Although Ohio is very
Speaker 1: underrated when it comes to the racism.
Speaker 4: I think this.
Speaker 1: General is underrated when it comes to their racism. Midwest.
Speaker 1: Like remember KKK is really from the Midwest. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: because Indiana from and I have not much experience in Indiana,
Speaker 1: but I heard Indiana was off the chain. Indiana still
Speaker 1: like that when you get away from where the Brothers
Speaker 1: is at.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know so, yeah, what I driving through
Speaker 7: this this state like outside of the major you know,
Speaker 7: our areas sketchy as fuck.
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