1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We are joined 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: by wide receiver Devin Today. And Devin, we're off to 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: a good start, alright. So one of my goals with 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: this podcast is to get you to laugh, alright, because 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: because you're a mild manner dude. So all right, so 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: we're off to a good start. We gotta smile already, 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: got a little chuckle, all right, What do you don't 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: expect much more? That's all we get. Do you think 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: we can get something from you today? What do you 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: think like some jokes? Can we get a good laugh, 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: a good belly laugh? What's the day? Laugh? Even sound like? 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure. Oh no, it's funny you say that. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: I get that a lot. It just kind of happens. 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: It has to be in the moment, alright, alright, alright, alright, 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: Well we'll start off with a football. You know, it's 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: got to catch you by surprise, you know what I mean? So, uh, 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: twelve catches on thirteen targets this year, pretty pretty sweet. 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember what was the one that you didn't catch? 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: That's my question? Do you remember the one you didn't get? 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm honestly not too sure. He's sorry. I don't know, 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: maybe they'll start out of balance. It's like they gave 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: it the target to me, but it was not gonna 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: it was intended for somebody else. So what what's your 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: mentality going into this week? I mean, obviously you've gotten 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: off to a really hot start, uh, playing some really 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: good ball, special teams and offense. And now this week, 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, Bates dealing with a foot injury, going into 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: a big sunnight football game against the Bengals, and you know, 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: if if Bate can't play, we don't know yet, then 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: more is gonna be on your shoulders, obviously, you know. 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean, how's Devin duvern a wide receiver one? What's 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: the ring on that? How's that sound to you? I mean, 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: good man. I just you know, prepare every week for it, 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, for just for opportunities, you know, I mean, 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna happen. You never know, you know, 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: things may happen, if someone's going to go down. So 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: me personally, always just prepare, you know, to dominate, just 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: every Sunday, you know, whenever my numbers call, whenever I 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: get a chance to catch the ball, to dominate. So 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: if you look at some of the you know, the 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: articles of like you know, surprise players for the first 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: quarter of the season or guys we were sleeping on. 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Your name is often on those list. So what does 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: that mean to you? Like, we're people sleeping on you 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: a little too much coming into this season. I mean, 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I guess so, but I mean, you know, it's I mean, 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: people have their own opinions, you know, and you know, 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I know what I'm capable of. I know what I 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: you know what I can do, what I like to do. 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: So I mean if people sleep, that's on them. I mean, 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: I guess still find out, you know, as you know, 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: just continue to get chances to prove myself. The thing 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: that's really stood out to me about your game this 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: year that has has been great is your ability to 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: make contested catches. Like I knew you had the speed, Um, 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: I knew you could get jack once you got the 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: ball in your hands, but like you have gone up 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: and made tough contested catches this year in the red zone. 59 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about that aspect of 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: your game. Yeah, I mean that's something you know, T 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: and Dub have really you know, uh hounded on me 62 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: about this offseason. Was just like, man, just make just 63 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: be different, just make the catches that you know, people 64 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: don't expect you to make, or people don't really normally 65 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: make in this league, you know, because I mean on 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: the outside world it could look hard, but you know 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: he's always telling you, like, man, you gotta like that, 68 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: So just go up and make the catch. Focus on 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: the ball. So, you know, this offseason, I really, you know, 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of just thought about it a lot, you know, 71 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: try to you know, incorporate maybe drills here and they're 72 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: just a you know, high point the ball, go get 73 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: the ball, you know, not look at the defender, you know, 74 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: and just try to make a play on the ball. 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, it's because I think I feel like 76 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guys would just be like, oh, I 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: always can make contested catches. But it's interesting to hear 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: like that was a point of focus for you this 79 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: off season. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, especially I mean, 80 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, being smaller, stature or whatever. So yeah, just 81 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to be different, just trying to 82 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, make those plays that people don't think I 83 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: can make. And uh, you know you know that what 84 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: drives me. Yeah, I mean, because you don't usually think 85 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: of a five eleven dude, it's being a contested catch guy. 86 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: But the thing that really made me kind of think 87 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: about that was I went back and saw Eric the 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: cost quote from in the Ravens draft you in the 89 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: third round, and he said that quote. I just like 90 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Devin's competitive streak, his nature. He's a tough guy. He 91 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: reminds me of a few guys that we've had here 92 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and I'll reference guys like An Kwan Bolden, 93 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: Derek Mason, and of course Steve Smith. These guys had 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: a competitive spirit about them that made them really stand out. 95 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: And that's what kind of stands out to me. Back 96 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: me up here, I said after the Jets catch, I 97 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: was like, that catch reminded me of some of the 98 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: plays that An Kwan Bowden used to make here. And 99 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: a Quan wasn't the tallest dude either. He was just 100 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of rocked up and he had that competitive spirit, 101 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: you know, and like you know, the damnquity point and like, 102 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, like that play kind of reminded me of 103 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: an Qwan. Like is that something that you feel like, 104 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: you know, you made it a point of focus this offseason, 105 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: But like even though you aren't tall, You're you're a 106 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: muscular dude that you can box people out kind of. Yeah, yeah, 107 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah you can use strengthen, strengthen a lot 108 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: of things. And then back to competitiveness and like I'm 109 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: super competitive man with everything I do man a dB, 110 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get after him, you know, block in 111 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: you know, catching the ball, running the route. So so yeah, 112 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I definitely just find find love and being competitive. Right 113 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: we're an kwan, Steve, where those guys that you kind 114 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: of looked up to in your youth or who was 115 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: it that you kind of modeled your game after a 116 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: little bit, No, I for sure kind of. I watched 117 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: uh you know Steve Smith is for sure in this 118 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: Carolina days watching him. A Ton was a big fan 119 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: of him, and yeah, no that was some someone watched 120 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: the Ton personality wise, you two are just two pieces 121 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: of pots, you and Steve. That was the other part 122 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: they cracked me up to about both your touchdowns, like 123 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: the so you make the play, the ref signals touchdown, 124 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: and both guys, we're still trying to rip the ball 125 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: out of your hand like after like you're on the ground, 126 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: there's still wrestling. I'm like dude. It's a touch like 127 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: get off. But the funny thing is Steve would have 128 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: ripped that dude's head off, like I know, rip dud, 129 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: and you didn't even react to the guy like still 130 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: trying to rip the ball out of your hand. Yeah, 131 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: just like what are you doing? Let go the ball? 132 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel you. Yeah, what what do you 133 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: do when dbs talk trash to you? Um, I'll say 134 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: some stuff back, No, kind of yeah, I kind of 135 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: get going. It honestly drives me, you know, I like 136 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: I like the trash talk. I think it's part of 137 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: the game. I think is good for the game. But 138 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: uh well yeah, yeah, you know, I'll draw back a 139 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, get a little physical. I like 140 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: getting physical things like that. So so yeah, I definitely 141 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: don't you know, don't take anything personal. And I you know, 142 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: I think it. You know, it keeps me going, Like 143 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: I really want to hear Devon's get you buked up. 144 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna know that. I'm not gonna say anything. We 145 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: did have that we had Devon might to the Pro Bowl, 146 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: but those practices are a little bit tamer, will say, Yeah, 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: not as much trash talk going onto the Pro Bowl. Practices. 148 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: So when we're talking about like comparisons, another guy that 149 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: we've gotten a lot of questions or who fans often 150 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: talk about in reference to you is Deebo Samuel and 151 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: they talk about, you know, can do like run the 152 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield? Can he kind of this 153 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: running back wide receiver hybrid? Like, what are your thoughts 154 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: about that? I mean, you know, I guess I've honestly, 155 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: I haven't really thought too much about it. I know people, 156 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I guess I think we you know, kind of have 157 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: the same stature, you know, kind of can play it 158 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: like this and that I mean, I mean, yeah, I 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: mean just it's just kind of cool seeing you know, 160 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: coaches you know, utilize their guys and you know, different ways, 161 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like, you know, I enjoyed 162 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: my role here, you know, love the way I'm being used, 163 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, gero as you know a ton of stuff 164 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: for me, you know, even you know, stuff out the 165 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: backfield and wide out deep, you know what I mean. 166 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's pretty cool to see all the games, 167 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, going, Yeah, it's cool. Do you think that 168 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: is kind of I don't know if it's a future 169 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: of the position, because it's so unique. But it like, 170 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: do you think we could see more players trying to 171 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: do those types of things and coaches trying to use 172 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: receivers in that type of way. I think, honestly, I 173 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: think so. I've seen, you know, I've seen Jeffers justin 174 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Jefferson be out the backfield. I've seen Cooper Cup, you know, Debo, 175 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I've seen, yeah, a number of receivers you know, get 176 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: backfield action. And I think it's yes, trending upwards. Yeah. Sure. 177 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: So the other interesting thing is, like, you know, last year, 178 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, offensively you were a little 179 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: bit more of a gadget guy. You know, a lot 180 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: of sweeps and stuff like that. But like the production 181 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: and like the high volume aspect, I mean certainly something 182 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: you're used to from your college days. I mean in Texas, 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: like you and James Purchet were going back and forth 184 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: for the nation's lead in catches. So like, did you 185 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: always feel like, hey, man, like when it comes to 186 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: my time, you know that they're gonna be targeting me 187 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot, Like I'm gonna be ready for that. Yeah, yeah, 188 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah I knew it was. I mean, I 189 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: know there's always you know, guys in front of you 190 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: guys that are drafting you know, years before you and 191 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: things like that. So I knew I had a um, 192 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, wait my turn. You know, I just you know, 193 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: I just stayed and stayed ready, you know, worked hard, 194 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, was super focused and practice and meetings and 195 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, whatever my number was called, I was ready 196 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: rather to be when I had a smaller role, you know, 197 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: no role or you know where I'm you know, continuing 198 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: to get a bigger role when you're as competitive as 199 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: you are, How difficult can that be? Yeah, Yeah, for 200 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: sure it can be difficult. You gotta you gotta talk 201 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: to yourself. You gotta you know, just think bigger picture, 202 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: just kind of you know, just focus on yourself, just 203 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: continue to you know, improve your game. So when the 204 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: time comes, you know, you're at the you know, the 205 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: highest level you could have put yourself at to you know, 206 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: go out and make the best of that opportunity. Along 207 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: those lines, like what is it like when you come 208 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: from Texas big time college school and you put up 209 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: monster numbers? What was a hundred six catches? Is that 210 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: something like that? What was it? You know, here six work? 211 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: But when you do that and then you come to 212 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, and like you have to kind of wait 213 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: your turn to a certain extent and earn your spot. 214 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: Like what is that challenging? Like how do you how 215 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: how have you felt about that? I mean, yeah, it 216 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: was challenging at first, but I found I kind of 217 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, just talked to my I do a lot 218 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: of self talk. I just found find the bright side 219 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: in it. You know, think of it as you know, 220 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to just get better, work on my game. Um 221 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: and just I mean, know when my time's gonna come, 222 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I just gotta get better, continue to work. I knew 223 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I was coming to the NFL. I mean it's kind 224 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: of like a starting over process for everybody, kind of 225 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: gotta earn your respect, you know, kind of earn your ways, 226 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: get to let the coaches you know, get to know you, 227 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: and things like that. So, I mean that's kind of 228 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: how I viewed viewed it. Right. A lot of people 229 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: obviously asked Bait, you know how he felt about the 230 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Hollywood trade and stepping into the number one role. But really, 231 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, that trade almost impacted you or said something 232 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: about the organization's faith in you more than it did 233 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: about Bait, you know what I mean? Because it opened 234 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: up that starting spot. What was your reaction when that 235 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: happened on Draft night? Where you watching the draft when 236 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: it happened, Just take me into that. Yeah, yeah, I 237 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: was watching it, you know, so I was surprised by it. 238 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, Marquis something was was my boy, you know, 239 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: I hate to see him, you know, get traded, you know, 240 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: things like that. But I mean, you know, deep down 241 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: on it was just gonna prevail more opportunity, you know, 242 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: for me, you know, for the guys, and uh yeah, 243 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean just gotta you know, make the most of 244 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: it and you know, super excited for the future. So 245 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: what is that night like? All right, so you're watching 246 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the draft? Did you know what was coming or not? 247 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Were you surprised like everybody else? And I was surprised. 248 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean you hear a little trickles here and there, 249 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, exactly. But so yeah, solid, and I was like, 250 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: oh wow, yeah that's the yeah, what's the oh wow 251 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: face from Devin. D Rene looked like there, you know, 252 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: all the restaurants, like I want to see what you're 253 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: just like you just did. He's like exactly. I was 254 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: like that, like, oh well yeah you do you like 255 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm too curious, Like do you then get on the 256 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: phone with like the other receivers, like do you call? 257 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Are you watching with friends or family? Like what is 258 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: that night like? Or you just say I'll talk to 259 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: these guys later, like what is that like? Yeah? And 260 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: I was watching I was watching it by myself at 261 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: my place, and I, uh, pro had actually texted me 262 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: and said, man, it happened. And then I guess my 263 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: TV was like a little bit behind and then ended 264 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: up popping up on my TV and I was like, Wow, 265 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: it really did happen. Yeah. So then obviously there was 266 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: all the talk this offseason about the receiving corps and 267 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: the way that you bring somebody in all this, and 268 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: you guys said so many times that you were confident 269 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the group and you were going to prove a lot 270 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: of people wrong. And I think that you certainly have 271 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: done that, uh as a group, and I think you 272 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: specifically over the course of this year. What does it 273 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: mean to basically say that you're gonna do it and 274 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: then do it you actually go out there and do it, right. 275 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: It's easy to say that we're going to do it, man, 276 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: We just we just knew the work we put in, man, 277 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: we we watch each other every day. We all know 278 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: what we can do, and we all you know, we've 279 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: all played in the game on Sunday, you know, in 280 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: our past, so we all knew what, you know, what 281 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: being an NFL receiver was like, you know, you kind 282 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: of watch guys, watch things. So so we're like, yeah, 283 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: we know we can compete with these guys. We know 284 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: we can match up with these guys, you know, the 285 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: things like that. So yeah, I mean, yeah, man, we 286 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: just continue to keep going. Man. If anything, it just 287 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: drives us. I feel like, tell me about you know, 288 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: in college, you know, you were a kick returner, but 289 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: you didn't return any punts in college. So, uh, who 290 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: was the first person that approached you about doing that here? 291 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: And were you like, yeah, let's get it where You're like, 292 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: m m, this might be a bad idea. It's funny, 293 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: that's funny you say that. But I think, yeah, Chris, 294 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: after the first training camp, he had kinda they always 295 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: just kind of had me catching punts and just you know, 296 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: just for safe measure and things like that. But in 297 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: the back of my mind, I'm like, I'm never doing this. 298 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: And then I think at the end of camp he 299 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: got just called me up in his office and was like, hey, man, 300 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: don't be surprised if I just, you know, throw you 301 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: back there one of these weeks and you're like and 302 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, he's for real. But still in 303 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: the back of mine, I'm like, okay, whatever, what are 304 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: the odds? And then I think it was I can't 305 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: remember the first week it was that I did punts. 306 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: I think it was it was later in the season, 307 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: like this thing was like like a place like close 308 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: to the it was like we played it was the Giants. 309 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: I remember the game was the Giant It was like 310 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: week maybe fourteen like that, And he was like, you 311 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: think they told me like Thursday Friday, like, hey, like 312 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: make sure you get out there. I was like kind 313 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: of warming up in the locker room or whatever, the 314 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: hey make sure you get out of practice of catch punts. 315 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like like, dang, why is everybody like pressing me? 316 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Like everyone's like pressing me about like going out to 317 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: catch punts. And then uh yeah, he told me. He 318 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you're catching this this Sunday. And I 319 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: was like, damn, that's but I mean I was I 320 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: was pretty confident though, because I did it all year 321 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: in practice catching the ball and stuff like that. It 322 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: was it wasn't as hard as I thought it was 323 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: gonna be. You know, you kind of growing up just 324 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: seeing punt returns, you know, people getting killed and stuff 325 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: like that, so you're like you kind of have nightmares 326 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: about it. But but now it's once you're hard as 327 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: far as just catching the ball and then you know 328 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: go from there. So but yeah, no, it's it's definitely fun. 329 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: I think being a part return is one of the 330 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: hardest jobs. Take it from experience here you should really 331 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: see him, but I just think it seems to be 332 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: one of the hardest jobs. Like you're in a stadium, 333 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: there's all this going on, and you're not looking at 334 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: what's coming towards you. You're obviously just looking at the ball. 335 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: That actually, so yeah, actually, when I'm back there, I 336 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: kind of I look at the ball for sure, but 337 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I actually try to take a peek. Really, how many 338 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: peaks take I usually it depends how hid the ball is. 339 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes usually usually like one. I'll usually like track the 340 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: ball for a while and then take a quick peek 341 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: and then determine if I'm a fair catcher, you know, 342 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: if I have room, but if it's a real high one, 343 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: I'll kind of like peek, look track the ball, look again, 344 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: and then but it's yeah, that's it's just kind of 345 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: a feel. Is that how most guys do it? Or 346 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: most guys it's almost like you have to be looking 347 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: at both at the same time or how or they 348 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: don't even look at the one eye goes up the 349 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: other guy because I know, really usually on a like 350 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: lower kick balls, you can kind of like look at 351 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: the ball in periff like what's in front of you. 352 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: But if it's like real high where your your chin 353 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: is like really up, you kind i gotta peak like 354 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: keep going well. And that's what's the amazing thing about 355 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: how well you've done, because you you didn't have this 356 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: history and like like you're saying, like really the hardest 357 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: part of the job is having that feel, right, Like 358 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: I asked Chris Horton about that today and you know 359 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: what makes you so good And he's talked about like 360 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: decision making like that is really such a hard part 361 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: and you had no feel for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 362 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: it's crazy to think about. You know, you gotta have 363 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: a good feel and yeah, like half the battles making 364 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: smart decisions. I mean, protect yourself, you know with the 365 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: fair catch and then you know, just catch the ball. 366 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: So so what part of the job do you like better, 367 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver or return. I'll say receiver. Yeah, I'll say receiver. 368 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: All right, So what does it take? Like, I gotta 369 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: think that as a returner, calling a fair catch is 370 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: a good thing to have in your back pocket, but 371 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to do it right, So like, like, 372 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: what does it take? What do you need to see 373 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: to be like all right, you know what, no shot 374 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting anywhere on this because you don't call a 375 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: ton of fair catches like you usually like pooches. Pooch 376 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: situations are usually like most of the time fair catches 377 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: because shorter field obviously you know, the punts usually higher 378 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: and you know, um punch team usually getting down creeker. 379 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: But on you know, big field, big field returns, you know, 380 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: I usually have more space. I kind of look at 381 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, pre snap stuff to think of that. But 382 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: i'd say, if what's like a no go where I'm like, yeah, 383 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: i know I'm not doing this. If I see when 384 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: I get back there, I get out of the ball, 385 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: I see like a take a peek and I see 386 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: a gunner just screaming down at me, or like somebody 387 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: just screaming down like in there within if I know 388 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna hit me as soon as I catch the ball, 389 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: if I'm not gonna have time to make a move, 390 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: then yeah, I'm probably gonna have to fair catch it. 391 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: All right, last part return question, I'm just er part 392 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: return garrets being ready to getting ready to be your backup. 393 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: You never know more, you can do, more you can do. 394 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: So so what I love about your part return game 395 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: is like your ability to get like eight yards like easy. 396 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: It just seems like you can like easily get seven 397 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: eight nine yards without even like really how much of 398 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: it is like looking for the big play and how 399 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: much of it is just looking to get a little something, 400 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: because that's one of the things I think that you 401 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: you do better than anybody. Yeah, yeah, it's not always pretty. 402 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: Chris always just tells me, man, just just get up field, 403 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: Just get up field, um, make smart decisions. Don't go lateral, 404 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: don't go backwards, um, and yeah, just start start vertical 405 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: and then you know, take it from there. The rest 406 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: will take care of itself. Very interesting, all right, So 407 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: how does it make you feel in a stadium now 408 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: when you hear I say, that's pretty cool, that's kind 409 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: of surreal, just to you know, here here the crowd 410 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: screaming that that's neat. So so one of our broadcast interns, 411 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: there's your brown big fan of yours sitting right over there, 412 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: just face baring in his hands, right, I like literally 413 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: can't keep track of the times that I've heard from 414 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: his cubicle. Do got that dog? You know? Like we 415 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: howways times the day we hear at least at least 416 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: at least once a day. So like, so this question 417 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: comes from him. Let your send in a question, okay, 418 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: And his question is if you lamar Hollywood or Kyle 419 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: and Kyler are playing tag, You're not. You're not racing. 420 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: You're playing tag. Who's getting tagged first? Who getting tags first? 421 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: And Kyler murray this because you're everyone's it? And oh yeah, 422 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: I guess who's it? Who's it? Okay, just the people? 423 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: If anybody's chasing him, like if I'm chasing him, who's 424 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: getting caught first? Random? Okay? Oh five random? Nfl? Oh okay, okay, alright, anyway, 425 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: go ahead, if okay, who's getting caught first? Right? I 426 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: don't think Lamar gang got first. Not Lamar, I guess Keith. 427 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean he's fast, but he doesn't have the wiggle 428 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: as much. Kyler is going to outlast Marquis. Was between him, 429 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: and it was between Kyler and Keith. Now now I 430 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: heard Clays Campbell today asked you a question in the 431 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: locker room, which was, uh, do you think you're one 432 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: of the five players? And you said, yeah, I believe so. Yeah. 433 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean the stats say that you are exactly just 434 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: exactly one point six miles per hour. Nobody stopped it. 435 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: Is that something you take a lot of pride in. Yeah? Speed, Yeah, yeah, 436 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: I do you know, I mean, yeah, I think even 437 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: last year. I think I hit faster on my rookie 438 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: year one of the year last year, on my rookie 439 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: I hit faster than that you did. It was it 440 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: was it was last year you hit twenty one point 441 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: seven six because I had that keyed up because I 442 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you if you're getting slow? I think 443 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: I think even think what was it, I think the 444 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: kick returned rookie year. I think I might have hit 445 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: even later than that. Yeah, really I can't remember, but hey, 446 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: man numbers well, so your dad was like a really 447 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: good track runner in uh New Orleans, right, um, and 448 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: so he trained you in your twin brother and you 449 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: were like trained as track athletes, right. Yeah. We grew 450 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: up like all working out together, pushing, pulling sleds, bungee 451 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: corps all that. Yeah, and we grew up running track. 452 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: How old were you doing that? Like, Oh, we started 453 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: running track at like four or five ish? Wow, say, 454 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: like working out like kind of like that. I don't know, 455 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: middle school. Maybe you're running track at four and five 456 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: years or something something like that. Really young for sure, 457 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: that's funny. I know I was playing football at like 458 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: four or five to wow. So a couple more from me. 459 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: One of the things that that stands out to me 460 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: is like you are a disciplined guy and like just 461 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: as a as a little story here, like we were 462 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: talking about doing this interview before practice, but it's like 463 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: ninety minutes before practice and you're like you got your routine, 464 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: like like other guys are kind of hanging out and 465 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: eat lunch and like you're stretching and you're going through 466 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: your routine. Like it impresses me and I think that 467 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: that's every like player who's had like longevity in the NFL. 468 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: It seems like that's one of the things they talked, routine, consistency, 469 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: taking care of your body. Talk to me about like that, 470 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: Is that always how you've been? Is that something that 471 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: you've added to your game. Tell me a little bit 472 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: about you know, that's how I've always been almost everything 473 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: in life. Man, I just feel like I gotta just 474 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: have structure, just have stuff laid out and just have 475 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: a plan. So you know, so I'm just not going 476 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: with them with the flow of things kind of. I 477 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: got one thing I don't like, you know, getting the tubs, 478 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go. You know, I'm listening to music, 479 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting into tubs, I'm getting stretched, I'm getting the 480 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Magnue machine on my leg. I go stretch and all 481 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: my feet out, get taped, stretched my ankles, put my 482 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: stuff on, go out to the turf and do my 483 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: little you know, warm up, running, warm warm up stuff 484 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, it's working all season. So yeah, 485 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: I'm sticking with that alright. Last one for eight, has 486 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: Klaas Campbell actually started you yet in fantasy because you know, 487 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: we had a micd up and he said that he 488 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: had you on his bench, and then you had two 489 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: touchdowns that now he told me he did, so I'm 490 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna take his word from You're gonna have to check 491 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: that line up. Yeah, no, I am. I'll have to 492 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: re check and see, like, heyre you still got me 493 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: starting a way like you should have you starting on Sunday. 494 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: I think that much. And the last thing I'll show 495 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: you is proof that you got that dog in you. 496 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: We got an X ray. We got this from Doc 497 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: the proof of it. Got that dog and we gotta 498 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: laugh out of you. This is successful. All right, dude, thanks, 499 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: all right, great stuff from Are you gonna be doing 500 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: that in the press box on Sunday? Oh for sure, 501 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: Well m T. Bank Stadium is going to be doing that. 502 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: He runs back to open kickoff again. Oh for oh 503 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: that would be amazing. I lost. We got a little 504 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: warning in the press box the other day. You and 505 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: I are were on thin ice in the press box 506 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: for our cheering. Now, you know, like you're supposed to 507 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: keep it on the rafts and you and I you 508 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: last week, I took the fall, but it was you 509 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: who went nuts on the Marlin interception on the Bill's 510 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: first drive, Marlon picks it off You're like, oh, yeah, 511 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: you gave a big one and I got I got 512 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: talked to you. See that's the difference. Anyway. First of all, 513 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: any listener of the podcast knows that if there's somebody 514 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: who's gonna be loud and making a scene, it's not me, 515 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be you. It's gonna be you. I understand 516 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: that that's a totally fair comment, but on this one 517 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: it was you. I'm keeping under the rest of New 518 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: England press box style. You know, Oh you didn't break 519 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: any chairs. This is celebration. I'm an angel now the 520 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: press box. I think you know what I do is 521 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: is I am. I talk to myself, but I'm not loud. 522 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. A lot of that, a lot 523 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: of that, but there's not much like you are. You 524 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: hit a six or seven, you yell at the refs openly, 525 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: you yell at the rest. Well, one thing that really 526 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: gets to me is, um, you know what I there's 527 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: a lot of this from the bill's media. When the 528 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: other media members come up in our press box and 529 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: start yucking, yucking. A little too much of that starts 530 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: and the bills like you know, like who lives up 531 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: in Northern New York and isn't a Bills fan even 532 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: if you're in the media, they are some fan media. 533 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that. You know, it's a bunch of 534 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: we going on from the newspaper rights writers up there 535 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: for you and I were allowed to do that, Yeah, 536 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: but when they start yuking at that starts to get 537 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: to me. All right. So before we continue the conversation 538 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: and look ahead to this game against the Banks, do 539 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: you want to give shout outs for friends and DraftKings 540 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: Because as listeners and viewers know, the sports landscape is 541 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: always changing. This week is no different. DraftKings is a 542 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: leader in daily fantasy sports and it still has daily 543 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: fancy contests running for those who are looking to have 544 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: skin in the game. Though. This is simple. Every player 545 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: has a salary associated with drafting him. You assemble a 546 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: lineup of players and you try to stay under that 547 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: salary gap. You watch your points pile up, so you 548 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: know how to play. Go ahead and download the Draft 549 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: Kings app today using the code flock. Get that done 550 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: today and new users will get a free entry with 551 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: their first deposit. Again, the code is flock and that's 552 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: at DraftKings. Yeah. So obviously huge game coming up against 553 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals. This is really, I think a bigger game 554 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: than the Bills was right, because this is a division 555 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: opponent first and foremost. When you look at the Ravens 556 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: priority list at the start of the season, the top 557 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: item there is win the division. That's the first goal, right, 558 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: and so this is the start of that as the 559 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: Ravens first an f C North game, and and then 560 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: obviously you layer on top of that. You know, the 561 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: Ravens are coming off a tough loss, and and you'd 562 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: like to build a little momentum. You've lost two games 563 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: at home, You're riding a five game home losing streak. 564 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: It's prime time and the Bengals and what the Bengals, 565 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: you know too, blow out losses in the Bengals last year. 566 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: They're talking some smack. Joe Burrow likes to do that 567 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, a lot of factors converging 568 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: here that make this one feel like it's kind of 569 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: like an early season playoff game. Yeah, I think there's 570 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: truth to that. I I agree that this game is 571 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: like more significant than the Bills if all the other factors, yes, 572 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: but more so than anything else. It's the first division 573 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: game and you have a chance here to to put 574 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: yourself in the driver's seat in the division. Both teams 575 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: were two and two. I think it's gonna come down 576 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: to these two teams at the end of I'm not 577 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: ruling the Browns out, and they certainly if they hang 578 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: around enough, and when Deshaun Watson comes back, that could 579 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: obviously be a game changer. So I'm not ruling them out. 580 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: But I my guest right now is that it's going 581 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: to come down between the Ravens and the Bengals. And so, 582 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, like they say that division games count for two, 583 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: that's like kind of a thing that you hear up 584 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: from coaches and players a lot when it's the game 585 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: against the team that like, you're probably gonna be coming 586 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: down to the wire against my count for three. I mean, 587 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: this is about a significant as as it gets, especially 588 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: at home, especially at home, So I don't know, I 589 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: think that there was it was kind of interesting to 590 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: hear from some of the players this week, you know, 591 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: particularly Lamar Jackson talking about the need to defend home 592 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: turf and win at home, and like that is definitely 593 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: something they've lost the two this year. I know it's 594 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: a five game losing streak going back to last year. Personally, 595 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't it doesn't really count. I don't put much 596 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: stock into the games from last year when you were 597 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: dealing with um most team and I are stretching and 598 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: getting ready to go out there is so much of 599 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: the team was injured at the end of last season. 600 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: The two this year are significant, though, And so I 601 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: think that there's a real sense that like, okay, there's 602 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: no sense of pride. The Ravens historically have been a 603 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: very good team at home. M Bank Stadium is historically 604 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: a very hard place to play. It's even a harder 605 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: place to play in prime time. Where the Ravens are 606 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: eighteen and two under John Harball, it's the best winning 607 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: percentage in the NFL during Hardball's tenure. They don't lose 608 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: at home at night hardly at all. So for all 609 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: those factors, like and the all black uniforms, I mean, 610 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: come on, I know you just add all like them 611 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: all the stuff. Now we at halftime at least getting hot, 612 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: So it is gonna be um an awesome atmosphere. And 613 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: this is like, this is one that the Ravens know 614 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: that they need to win well Obviously a lot of 615 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: it comes down to I think the Ravens defense and 616 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: their past defense against the Bengals Joe Burrow, you know, 617 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: and then obviously Tee Higgins, Jamaar Chase and Tyler Boy. 618 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean that trio. Marlin Humphrey said it self, that's 619 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: the best wide receiver trio in the league. And I 620 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: think he's right. And so you know, on paper, you 621 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: have the this high powered offense passing offense, and then 622 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: you have the thirty second ranked past defense in the league. 623 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: The Ravens have struggled. Now, you know, I almost said this. 624 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: I said this in private last week, I kind of 625 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: kept it on the rack. I'm gonna say it publicly. Okay, 626 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: this better be good. So I've kind of felt like 627 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna have a game where they just 628 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: strap up some really good passing offense, right, Like where 629 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens defense just kind of locks them down and 630 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: and when you're not expecting it, right, And it happened 631 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: last year against the Chargers. You remember that when when 632 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: Herbert justin Herbert came in and you know, they have 633 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: Mike Williams and Keenan Allen and they have all these 634 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: weapons on passing offense and you're saying this is gonna 635 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: be a shootout, early season shootout. I think it was 636 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: around this week five on this time, and then the 637 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: Ravens just just just blow out. It was just a blowout. Yeah, 638 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: the past defense was awesome and it was not at 639 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: all what we expected. That game is gonna happen. I 640 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: really really feel like that game is gonna happen for 641 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: this Ravens past defense. And I know it sounds crazy. 642 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 1: It would have sounded crazy when I you know, if 643 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: I said that last year before it happened, right, because 644 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens of struggles so much. But I see signs 645 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: of this past defense improving, right. I mean you look 646 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: at the Miami game. That one really skewed the stats, 647 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: and you had some big time past uh you know, miscommunications, 648 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: just busts, right that led to these long touchdowns that 649 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: really skewed the numbers there um and then. But I've 650 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: seen it get better, right, like Mac Jones through for 651 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: three d some yards, but I mean Josh Allen was 652 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: held the two hundred and twelve passing yards. I believe 653 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: it was right, and I know it was raining and 654 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff, but like you hold Stefan digs two 655 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: hundred seventy yards. Last game I was gonna say, like, 656 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: last game was kind of the game with the exception 657 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: of the front result that you're kind of talking a bit, 658 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. It wasn't blow out in the the first half. 659 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I wish I had gone public 660 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: with the statement, but um, it's now you're doubling down. Okay, Well, 661 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, I honestly like I have a hard time 662 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: seeing that happen against the Bengals because they have so 663 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: many weapons that they can go to like dig. So 664 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: this is the this is the prediction that's like not 665 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: a prediction for this week, Like this is like at 666 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: some point, this is what this is my final stay. 667 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen, and it could happen this week. It could. Okay, 668 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pink that it's going to happen, but 669 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying keep that in the back of your 670 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: head because it's gonna happen one of these weeks. The 671 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: long time listeners of the Lounge will know that this 672 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: is like the most make argument I've ever heard where 673 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna make this like abstract statement, long 674 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: preamble to set it up like this is gonna happen. 675 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: Then that then I'm gonna back off before even make 676 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: the prediction. And then if it does come true, then 677 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: it's do you know what you're talking me into it? 678 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm going for it. Yeah, this is the week strapping 679 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: them off. They're only going to give up Burrows going 680 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: under three, Jamars under a hundred. I kind of think 681 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: t might have the biggest game. I kind of think 682 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: te Higgins might be the matchup problem. Um. But Burrows 683 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: still going under. It's gonna and turn him over a 684 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: couple of times too, I'll tell you. I'll tell you this, 685 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: Burrow is nervous about turning the ball over. That's the 686 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: one thing he's got in the back of his head is, 687 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens defense. They've given up a lot 688 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: of yards, but they lead the league and takeaways um 689 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: or I think second in league UM and so like 690 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: protect the ball. I don't think Joe Burrow is gonna 691 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: be feeling quite as much, you know, just like he 692 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: can push the ball down the field willy nilly as 693 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: he was last year when the Ravens didn't have any 694 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: corners out there. Well, look, look, a story with the 695 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: Bengals really going back for like three years now, and 696 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a story with them once again this 697 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: year is their ability to protect Burrow and that's been 698 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: a challenge for them. Right. They made some big investments 699 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: in the offensive line. I haven't really panned out, but 700 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: they haven't really panned out. The Ravens pass rush has 701 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: struggled this year. Now, JPP is now in the equation. Hey, 702 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: a ton of snaps in his first game, they had 703 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: his best game yet had his best game, almost had 704 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: another fum. Is he heating up? Certainly, that's the hope. 705 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: He also came close on another sack and Josh Allen 706 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: just kind of got out of his grasp and you 707 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: want to see him finish those plays. But like, if 708 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: the pass rush can turn it out and they can 709 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: harass Burrow like he's been bothered, you know, at times 710 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: over the course of this year, then I do think 711 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: that's going to create opportunities for the guys in the 712 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: secondary in the back end to continue that ball hawking 713 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: ability that we've seen already this season. Right, I mean, 714 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: let's be honest, this is the game the Ravens made 715 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: all those investments for right. I mean, you get torched 716 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: by Joe Burrow twice last year, that has that that 717 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: sticks with you during the off season and the Bengals, 718 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals go to the Super Bowl, that when they 719 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: and you know, we gotta meet them, that's where we 720 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: gotta get to got to go through those guys to 721 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: get where we want to go. I gotta twice here 722 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: quite confident that Erica Costa was thinking about that when 723 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: he signed Marcus Williams, that we're gonna be able to 724 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: matchup against him, when he drafted Kyle Hamilton's right, that 725 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to match up against the Bengals 726 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: better and we're gonna see. Yeah, Well, Tee Higgins is 727 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: an interesting one because I do think he creates matchup 728 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: problems just based on his size, his jump all guy. 729 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: And I thought that Marlon Humphrey kind of made an 730 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: interesting point on that this week where he said one 731 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: of the things about Burrow and Joe Flacco had this too, 732 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: which was like even if your guy, he just puts 733 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: his guys and positions to allow them to try to 734 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: go make plays, like even if even if they're covered, well, 735 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: he still trusts his players to say, you know what, 736 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: I think March is gonna win that jump all. I 737 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: think Higgins is gonna win that jump all. So like 738 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a gambler. Yeah, he's a 739 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: little bit of a gun slinger, and that presents opportunities 740 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: for turnovers and quite frankly, the Ravens just didn't have 741 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: the horses to get those turnovers last year when when 742 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: those opportunities arose. This year's a different story with going 743 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: back by the way, he's getting the two week podcast bump, 744 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: then he gets all right, I like that. Um. The 745 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: the the interesting point, Auntie Higgins is like a matchup 746 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: guy against him is kind of kind of Kyle Hamilton's 747 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: like he has the size and tough matchup for the rookie. 748 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: That would be a very tough matchup, But that will 749 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: be one they end up, I don't know, match it 750 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: up against each other. Brandon Stevens played a lot last week. 751 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: He was really the number three quarter and so I 752 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: expect you know, he's a pretty physical guy too. Yeah, 753 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: he's a bigger body guy. I would imagine that he 754 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: will see a fair amount of action as well. It 755 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: was interesting. Jamaar Chase said you know, he doesn't think 756 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: that Marlin Humphrey is gonna shadow him like Marlon did 757 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: the first time that they met when he ripped off 758 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: the a d U two yard touchdown or whatever it 759 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: was and went for a two one yards in the 760 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: touch um. And and you know, Jamar, the Bengals. The 761 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: Bengals like like I said, they like to talk and 762 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: it's very subtle this week. You gotta read between the lines. 763 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: They're trying to kind of play nice and not but 764 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: that Bullen Moar Mazero, but he said, you know, I'm 765 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm excited to face Marcus Peters for the first time 766 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: in my career. I'm excited to face Marcus Peters. You 767 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: don't say that about Joose me. You should never feel 768 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: excited to face Juice. So the other this flipped over 769 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: the other shot of the ball before we close out here. 770 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: An interesting thing this week is certainly going to be 771 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens offense and how they looking for shod Bateman 772 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: is not able to play. We'll see that is a 773 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: big story. That is a big storyline, and we'll see 774 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: fingers crossed that he's able to go. But Doday, there 775 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 1: could be a lot on him. I mean, this could 776 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: be a game where he has to ten targets eight targets. 777 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: That potential exists. Well, he's caught all everyone but one. 778 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: Every time he's been targeted to cut the ball except 779 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: for one time. So ten targets sounds like ten catches. Yeah, 780 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: I agree. Well, we know he has great hands and 781 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: uh he makes contested catches. But yeah, I think that 782 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: will be kind of like, you know, as we talked 783 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: with him about this, like he's taken steps in his 784 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: career being the number one guy going into a divisional game. 785 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: If that turns out to be the case, that would 786 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: be another massive step for him, um and a real challenge. 787 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: You know. Mark Andrews is chomphing at the bit too. 788 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: I asked him about this in the locker room. You know, 789 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: he has what two for fifteen last week. That doesn't 790 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: sit well with a dog like Mark. I mean that 791 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: post game last week, after the Bills game, he said, well, 792 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: is my dog? I like to attack? I'm a dog 793 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: and I'd like to attack. And I'm glad John Harball 794 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: is too, you said twice. He followed up too with 795 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: the double down on the dog. The double dog. I'm 796 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: telling you he kind of brushed off my question this 797 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: week when he was like, nah, you know that doesn't 798 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: really roll into the next game. Every game is different. Yeah, 799 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: locked in. I've said this before. I think Mark Andrews 800 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: like his focus level this year. It doesn't seem like 801 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: he is like ever not wayser focused, and he's doing 802 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: everything that he can at all times to get better, 803 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: to improve. And I think that he is going to 804 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: be He's gonna have a good game. I think he's 805 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a big game he does. How how big 806 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: I think that Mark Andrews is, uh, we're looking at eight. 807 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: There's a touch in. There was definitely a touch at 808 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: least at least a touch too, maybe two. I think 809 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: we're looking at eight for I think it's a monster 810 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: game from our going. I think it is a monster 811 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: game from Ark Angrews. I'm gonna go eight for a 812 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: hundred and two, eight for one oh two, No eight 813 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: for Okay. I like that that. My fantasy team would 814 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: also like that. That's that's my prediction. So you made 815 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: your prediction to the defense is shutting down the Bengals 816 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: and holding them to zero points zero point And I 817 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: did not predict the shut out for the record, but 818 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: you predicted a very strong shot. Yes I did, Yes, 819 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: I did. Anyway, So if I'm predicting the big day 820 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: from Mark Andrews, you're predicting the big day for the defense. 821 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: And then what does that mean? That means, yeah, let's 822 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: do