1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Monday, 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: July twenty five. It was a good chill weekend for me. 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: I hope it was great for you. We are in 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: the dog days of summer, so it's like hot. You know, 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: we don't have air conditioning out here in California, but 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: we're close enough to the beach that you could feel 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: the breeze. So we do windows, you know, sometimes during 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: the day. Then we'll crank up the A C. We've 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: got some A C units. Uh. It is uh, it's 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: kind of beats living so um. You know, we had 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: a little kids sports. I showed my kids. I don't 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: know if you guys remember this movie. I'm sure Rob 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: g was too young for it. But the movie it's 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: called Goonies, A classic from my childhood, and every dad 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: I know loves the movie. And I start to show 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: my kids and they watch, like fifteen minutes into my 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: son's like, this is not good. I'm out. I'm not 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: watching this. It's like, what are you what are you doing? 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: This is a classic. Can you give it a little 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: bit of time? I had to I had to, like, 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, kind of bribe them with with something to 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: get them to watch the rest of the movie. Now, 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: of course, as soon as Goonies got underground, they were 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: into the movie and a little scariness um, but overall 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: the kids I think ended up liking it. But it 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: just was a slow start. I don't rob do you 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: even remember the movie Goonies? I do. I do remember 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: the movie. Yeah, it's like a classic kids right in 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: their bikes going on treasure hunts that kind of stuff. Like, 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: great movie, and I was just stunned that my kids 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: did not jump at it, like oh dad, yeah, And 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: you guys know how this is. You have kids, you 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: tell them, oh wait till I show you this movie, 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. And then 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: they're like it was just okay. But the new movies. 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Remember I saw Top Gun in the theater. Kids absolutely 38 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: loved it. They weren't that keen on going to see 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Black Panther. And then of course in the theater they 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: love it. So the new stuff they love. Maybe it's 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: the look of the old movies. I don't know what 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: it is, but I was just surprised that they were 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: not enamored with goonies the way I loved it. Um. Anyways, 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: I know you guys want the dad life basketball update. 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: We had a rematch with the team that beat us. 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: You remember we lost to a team that was featured 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: a like a year old kid who looked like Anthony 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Edwards and he plays junior legitimately right now, plays junior 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: college ball guys like six four. He had a reverse 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: dunk in the game against us. At any rate, he 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: hasn't played since that game. That's our only blemish. And 52 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: they didn't have him on Sunday. Now, I I didn't 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: really tell you guys this. I joined another basketball league. 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I kind of sprung it on my wife. Late was 55 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: not happy. Um, it's it's local. It's a bunch of 56 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: guys who know each other. And I I so I 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: didn't play Sunday in hopes of playing tonight coming off 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: the tennis tournament, which I'll get to in a second. 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: And yes, there's actual sports that happened. Not a lot, 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: but an nb A beef and an NFL quarterback situation 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: which you'll get too shortly, but just briefly. You know, 62 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: we're having a rematch against these guys, and I could 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: tell without their start like we're gonna murder these guys, 64 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: and you know, it was kind of closed for like 65 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: eight minutes, and then we just start destroying them, and 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're up thirty five and one of our 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: guys a regular listener to the podcast, UM, a doctor 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: Indian guy. He's officially now the best shooter I've ever 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: played with for a long time. UM like uncontested three 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: is just swishing all of them, and we're like, oh 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: my god, it's unbelievable. And one goes in and the 72 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: captain of their team looks at the ref and just says, 73 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: just forget it. It's over. I hadn't seen that. He 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: basically was pulling the Roberto Duran no Moss. If you 75 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: remember boxing fans will remember it. He just would not 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: come out of the corner in a classic uh nineteen 77 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: eighties boxing match, and their their team essentially quit. Um. 78 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: We we won't want by a million, but um, yes, 79 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I've posted some highlights on I g stories. Okay, briefly, 80 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: I know you care about my tennis career. So I 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: lost in the semifinals last year and I was gutted. 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: I even talked about on the podcast. I was like 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: legitimately devastated because I was winning for one in the 84 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: first set. I'm coasting, and then I fell apart. I 85 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: basically did not play tennis for ten months. I was 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: just like I was disappointed. And then I got into 87 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: soccer and of course basketball, um, and so I didn't 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: play tennis. But I thought like, oh, I'm just a 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: natural athlete. You know, I'll play a couple of times. 90 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: I'll go out there and win. And I go out 91 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: and in my first match, I lose the first set 92 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: to six. I'm like, what is going on here? I 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: played an entire uh all my run to the semifinals 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: last year, I didn't lose one set. So I lose 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: two six, and then in the second set, um, I 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: fight back and win uh six four, And then we 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: go to the tiebreaker and I beat him, Like all right, 98 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: I got this, and I'm super sore back calves cheese, tennis, 99 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: workout at any rate. Come out the next day, lose 100 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: the first set again, slow start, and I'm serving forty 101 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: love up five four, So all I mean is one 102 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: point to force first the tiebreaker again, and I like 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: go to kind of dive for a ball and I 104 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: sort of trip and totally like my knee gets totally skinned. 105 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: It's like one of those skins where it's not like 106 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: a little thing in blood, but it goes right white instantly. 107 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know what I'm talking about. 108 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, probably like a one or one and a 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: half inch long scab. And I'm like, God, jeez, I'm 110 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: looking at it. Then I look at my elbow, same deal, 111 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: and Rob. It was one of those moments where like 112 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: two guys playing on the court next to me look 113 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: over and go, you all right, buddy, And I was 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: a little dazed and I was like, I didn't did 115 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: it go in? Did not? I lose? I go get 116 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: bandaged up by the the you know, the whoever's running 117 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: the tournament. And then I come back and I can't 118 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: win the next two points and he beats me. I 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: was so pissed wrong. UM so I was in a 120 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: massive funk. It ruined my saturday. Um Anyways, I have 121 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: vowed to the five people still listening to my dad 122 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: life tennis story, I will be joining a tennis ladder 123 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: locally and be playing starting in the fall because I can't. 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: I can't do this again. I lost in the quarterfinals. 125 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Now the guy I lost to made the finals. I 126 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: did not check to see if you want, I don't 127 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: really care. Let's get to actual sports. So I'm doing 128 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: this thing on weekends now where I'm not watching a 129 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of sports because I want to like try to 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: hang with my family and um, you know, be active 131 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: and do fun stuff. There was like nothing happening in 132 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: sports this weekend. Some people texted me about baseball game 133 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: that was like I think it was twenty seven to three, 134 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Rob Friday, somebody was up right, So okay, that was 135 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: like the highlight of the sports weekend. Seriously, nothing else happened. 136 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: There was no golf major, there was no tennis major, 137 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, Donovan Mitchell didn't go anywhere, 138 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Duran's not getting traded right now, nobody played in 139 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: the Drew League other than trade young um. Rob. It 140 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: was this had to be the slower sports weekend of 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: the year, right certainly up there, It's way way up there. 142 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean maybe last weekend. You can make that argument 143 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: that it was the lowest because it was the well, 144 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: at least Lebron played. Yeah, but that's how the though 145 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: it is when Lebron playing an open run pickup game 146 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: is leading you know, sports center Like that just kind 147 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: of gives you an idea. It was bleak. Fox Sports 148 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 149 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot 150 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 151 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Fortunately, uh, some guys on 152 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: a serious radio station had Jerry West on and they 153 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: asked Jerry West, who is now eighty four years old. 154 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: And just keep in mind, Jerry West is salty given 155 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: how they did him on that HBO show Showtime, the 156 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: Lakers Show. Remember they made Jerry West kind of look 157 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: like a crazy person. And I think he's still salty 158 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: about that because he went on Series Radio and went 159 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: after JJ Reddick of all people. Because remember Reddick said 160 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: that Bob Couzy was playing against plumbers and firefighters when 161 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: he was dominant and couldn't trouble with his left hand. 162 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. So Jerry West coming after him. Obviously, 163 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: the game is completely different, the athletes are completely different. 164 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: I know JJ a little bit, a very smart kid 165 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: and everything, but tell me what his career looked like. 166 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: What did he do the determined games he averaged what 167 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: toll points a game in the NBA, somewhere along the line, 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: numbers count at that point in time, the players aren't 169 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: what they used to be. JJ certainly wasn't guard the 170 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna what certainly wasn't going to guard the elite players. 171 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: And so you can nip pick anyone. The only reason 172 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about him is he was not an elite player. 173 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: He was a very good player, but he had a 174 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: place on our team because of his ability to shoot. 175 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: I think it's disrespectful. Here's the thing, Rob, I don't 176 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: totally disagree with anything Jerry West said. He did not 177 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: really like argue J. J. Reddick's point and say that, well, 178 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: they were not plumbers and firefighters, because I don't think 179 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: you can. And it's weird because Jerry West obviously was 180 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: a legendary player. He's been incredible in the front office, 181 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: and he can't refute Reddick's point. He could just knock 182 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: down JJ Reddick, which is fine, and that's because J. J. 183 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Reddick's point is accurate. And Rob, we don't do this 184 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't hear anybody say, hey, Kenny Stabler, 185 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I got he was definitely as good 186 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson or Patrick Like, we don't do that. 187 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: We don't say whoever the best quarterback in this Bart Star? 188 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: What is bart Star? Right now, let's be realistic. What 189 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: is bart Star? He was a great quarterback in his time, 190 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: but fifty years later, is he on the same wavelength 191 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: as Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. You guys have seen 192 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the image of that. I forget who the quarterback was, 193 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Rob who was like forty four years old and an 194 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback somebody on the Raiders, you'll probably remember him. 195 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: And there's an image of him and he looks like 196 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: a sixty year old guy. And then they had the 197 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: image of Tom Brady at forty four and he looks 198 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: like he's like and it's just like it might have 199 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: been stable. And that's why I brought up his name. 200 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: But it's a meme on the internet. Like the athletes 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: were smoking cigarettes at halftime in the seventies in the NFL. Honestly, 202 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: guys were drinking beer after NBA games in the sixties. Like, 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: let's just stop with this worshiping Bob Cuzy and say 204 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: he's in on the same level as Steph Curry. It's 205 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: just not true. I mean I don't. I've said this 206 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: point before, Rob, Like you put Zach Levine in the 207 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties and he's probably a you know, top fifteen 208 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: player all time. I mean, he would have just dominated 209 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: that league. Like the guys now were just so much bigger, faster, stronger. 210 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: We don't do in the NFL. I don't think we 211 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: do this in baseball as much. You know, there's some 212 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: um hero worship of like the twenty seven Yankees, um, 213 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: but you PLoP show Hey Otani in any era, and 214 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: he is utterly dominant, Aaron Judge, any era, he's dominant. 215 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: And you do that with a lot of athletes now, 216 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: and that's the case. So but I don't know why 217 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: these NBA players, these old heads, cling to this idea 218 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: that all the players back then they were just so 219 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: much better, they were fundamentally sound in the mid range 220 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: game and blah blah blah, Like evolution is like a 221 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: real thing, Like go find me a computer from the 222 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies that can hold a candle to anything today. 223 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: Like you guys have seen Wall Street with Michael Douglas 224 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: and that brick of a phone that he has on 225 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: the beach with money never sleeps like I've got an iPhone. 226 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: I've got like an encyclopedia in my pocket at the ready. 227 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: You know. It's just everything gets better with time. Sorry, everything. 228 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: And I don't know robt I I J J. J. 229 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: J Reddick was right, and Jerry West can knock him 230 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: all he wants, but he cannot knock his point that 231 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: Bob Couzy went against, you know, kind of jokers in 232 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: the nine sixties. Well, I mean, like you mentioned, I 233 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: think they're both right. I think everything that JJ Reddick 234 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: has said, you know, about the previous generations is accurate. 235 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: You know, even Jerry West I would admit, yeah, we 236 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: had to have offseason jobs to make ends me because 237 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: we didn't make enough money to live off just our 238 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: NBA salary. So everything that JJ said was factually accurate. 239 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: And at the same time, everything that Jerry West said 240 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: about JJ Reddick was also accurate. JJ Reddick was a 241 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: role player. He was a sniper that didn't do a 242 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: whole and ever a lot else, you know. And that's 243 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: that's not a knock on JJ Reddick. It's just that's 244 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: his role in in in that system, in today's NBA 245 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: or his generation's NBA I think that the reason though, 246 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: why NBA players get the brunt of the back in 247 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: my day argument is because the way that the game 248 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: is played today is so much different than what you 249 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: see even fifteen years ago, twenty years ago. So when 250 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: you're going back to Jerry West's time, it's a different sport, 251 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not even close to what you're seeing. 252 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Like even though with the NFL, with the rules and 253 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: the passing, you could make that same argument. However, at 254 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: its core, it's especially in the playoffs, it's smashed mouth. 255 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: It's physicality. It's your guy versus my guy. My guys 256 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna win, and that's how it's gonna we're gonna determine 257 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: it usually in most situations. The other thing, Rob, you 258 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: just mentioned this, um, the errors are different also salary wise, 259 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: I just puss up. Are you ready? I think there's 260 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: probably a little saltiness that a role player who averaged 261 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: twelve points a game or whatever. Reddick did probably more 262 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: than twelve. I mean, he's like one of the leading 263 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: scorers in the history of duke basketball, So he's not 264 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: some kind of average guy. But he was average in 265 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: the NBA, right, I mean, he's a good shooter. I 266 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: don't did he make an All Star Game? Oh no, 267 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he did so. But this matters. J. J. 268 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Reddick's salaries in the NBA for his career, he made 269 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: a hundred and seventeen million dollars as a role player. 270 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you can hate it all you want, guys. 271 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: JJ Reddick was a good shooter, perfect role player and 272 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: made a lot of money. He probably made more than 273 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is probably a little extreme. Then 274 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, the top ten players in the league combined 275 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty in his in his careers, absolutely fair. 276 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean it at his at his apex, he made 277 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: twenty three million with the Sixers. I think that was 278 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: that great Sixers team with Butler and Embiid and Simmons, 279 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. I think that was the team. He made 280 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: twenty three million that year and it all fell up, 281 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: I think, or maybe that was nineteen. I don't know. 282 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: He was on the team both years. But you know, 283 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: here's the weird thing. Jerry West was with the Clippers 284 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: rob fourteen, fifteen, sixteen seventeen. So I'm sure they're friendly. Yeah, 285 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that they know each other in 286 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: some kind of way, and it doesn't change the way 287 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: you feel from each perspective. Like I'm sure that there 288 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: are people that you know in our business that you 289 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: fundamentally disagree with on certain points or maybe the way 290 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: they do business, the way they do their job. That 291 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you guys can't be cool and you 292 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: still like this barriage everything about them and it's not unique. Um. 293 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: I will say though with Jerry West and it's just 294 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: maybe it would have kept my mouth shut on this one. 295 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just taking over. He had a lot 296 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: of ls recently. You never since that. Listen when you're 297 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: eighty four, dude, that's he's a fossil um Jerry J. J. 298 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Reddick fifteen years. He got the twelve because that was 299 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Reddick's career average. I think that's a little nitpicking because 300 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: he did average double figures one. It looks like about 301 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: seven years in a row, including eighteen a game at 302 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: the age of thirty four. I know the league has changed, 303 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: but listen, let's not knock the role players, especially when 304 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: they can bank a hundred and seventeen millie. That's a 305 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: nice little career. Speaking of money, Fox Sports Radio has 306 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 307 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and 308 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R 309 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to listen live in the NFL, I think we're all 310 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: waiting this week to see what happens with Lamar Jackson. 311 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: Rob Lamar Jackson obviously up for a big contract. We 312 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: just saw Kyler Murray get paid. Kyler Murray now the 313 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: second highest average salary in the NFL after Aaron Rodgers 314 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: for contract aerons making an average of fifty mill Kyler 315 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Murray forty six point one, Deshaun Watson forty six. Where's 316 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, you ask, Well, he signed his deal several 317 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: years ago, so he's only averaging forty five million a 318 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: year now. Obviously we need to um, you know, this 319 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: is an NFL quarterback. This is what they make. Don't 320 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: freak out when I say only forty five million. Josh 321 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: Allen forty three million. So the two pretty much best 322 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. I guess if you Truss Rogers 323 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: in there, Mahomes is fourth, Josh Allen is fifth. Remember 324 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: when Dak Prescott signed his deal and everybody was, oh 325 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: my gosh. He is now the seventh highest paid quarterback 326 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: at average of forty million dollars a year. So the 327 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: question becomes what happens with Lamar Jackson and does Lamar 328 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: Jackson take less money to help the Ravens build some 329 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, like super Bowl winning team, 330 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: or does he say no, thank you, I will get 331 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: my money. I'm not gonna do what Tom Brady did. 332 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do what Patrick Mahomes did. I want 333 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: to get paid like Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray. And 334 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray did not get all of his money guaranteed, 335 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: because nobody gets that in the NFL except for Deshaun Watson. 336 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: But you have to wonder Lamar Jackson is a little different. 337 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: He's represented, I believe by his mom in this contract situation. 338 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Rob could check me on that if it's not accurate, 339 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: but he keeps it all in house. Remember we had 340 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: a guest from Baltimore here on the podcast say that 341 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has zero local TV commercials. He is not 342 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: maximizing his value the kicker on the Baltimore Ravens, and 343 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: he's the greatest kicker in NFL history. Arguably he has 344 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: more local commercials then Lamar Jackson, big quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, 345 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: has a lot of national commercials. That's more money in 346 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: his pocket. Baker Mayfield a couple of years ago and 347 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: lead the NFL and commercials that's drying up. Obviously. Lamar 348 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: Jackson probably is leaving a lot of money on the table, 349 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: especially Rob when you consider that he may just say 350 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm holding out unless my entire contract is guaranteed. I will. 351 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you that I do not anticipate 352 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens doing that. Lamar Jackson obviously a running quarterback. 353 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: I know he hasn't been injured running, but the potential 354 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: for injury is there. I don't think I think Kyler 355 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: knew he didn't have a leg to stand on with 356 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the whole guarantee. Me and again, you're getting a hundred 357 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars guaranteed, Like, how could you complain? I 358 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: think that's what he got, right, Rob Kyler, Yeah, yeah, 359 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: one thirty guarantee. You're not gonna complain about that. So 360 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: you think Lamar would just get about the same and 361 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: be happy. But there is a segment of the population 362 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: that thinks, hey, why shouldn't he get Well Watson got 363 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: and I just again, maybe you want to be that 364 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: guy who upsets the apple cart and changes everything. I 365 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: don't think Deshaun Watson did that. I think the Browns 366 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: so desperate for a quarterback. Remember you guys have seen 367 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: the jerseys that people were to Brown's games where they 368 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: list all the quarterbacks over the last twenty years and 369 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: it's like forty guys. They've never had a quarterback. They're 370 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: desperate for one, and they were probably gonna lose Deshaun 371 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: Watson to the Atlanta Falcons. And it's like, wait a second, 372 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: if the Falcons are gonna get him, because Watson would 373 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: go back to where the area where he's from, he's 374 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: went to Clemson, are we talking about a situation where 375 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: maybe we've just got to overpay him? And that's what 376 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: they did, and Rob, I don't think the Ravens are 377 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: going to do that for Lamar Jackson. They're not going 378 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: to give him the Watson fully guaranteed, and then the 379 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: question is what are you doing? I hope Lamarta doesn't 380 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: hold out because man, I like watching him in the NFL. 381 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: If Lamar Jackson has any brains at all, I don't 382 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: mean it's not disrespectful, but if he's wise to the game. 383 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: He is going to hold out for a fully guaranteed contracts. 384 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: This goes back two Patrick Mahomes. Even before that, to 385 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Tom Brady convinced people maybe it wasn't him, 386 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Patriots, maybe it was the NFL 387 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: media as a whole, that the only way to build 388 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: a consistent winner in the NFL was to take less 389 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: money so you can build out the rest of the roster. 390 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: That has been disproven, most recently by the Los Angeles Rams. 391 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: But lest we forget, tom Brady never once took market 392 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: value as a quarterback. According to the Boston Globe, the 393 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: Patriots only spent more than the NFL average once in 394 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: the last seven seasons of Brady's tenure there. They spent 395 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: below league average in seven of the last ten years, 396 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: including the Patriots Super Bowl years. So you mean to 397 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: tell me that all the times Tom Brady was given 398 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: up money and saying, hey, we want to build a roster, 399 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: we want to have a great talent around me, that 400 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: they weren't actually spending the money on other players, that 401 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft was pocketing it and putting it in his 402 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: private jet so we can fly to strip malls in 403 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Florida to see what's popping down there. Like this idea 404 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: that it's the responsibility of the players to make your 405 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: work financially and not the front offices is ridiculous. So 406 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: when you have guys like Tom Brady and then Patrick 407 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Mahomes who have all the leverage in the world, there's 408 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: nobody more powerful at their respective times than those two. 409 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: Maybe Aaron Rodgers, but Patrick Mahomes was an m v 410 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: P super Bowl champion. Super Bowl m v P gets 411 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: his five million dollar contract and everybody's so excited, like, 412 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: oh wow, half a billion Patrick Mahomes. He's really, you know, 413 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: a billy sitting the table for everybody else. You know, 414 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: how much of that money was actually guaranteed for Patrick Mahomes? 415 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: What was it? What was the official numes? Five hundred 416 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: and three you, I will guess one million guaranteed. Your 417 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: guess is one hundred forty one million. No. Nice. So 418 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: basically the same thing that Kyler Murray got, what three 419 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: years later. It's like, dude, I understand that that there's 420 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: this narrative out there that this is what you have 421 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: to do, but that's not the case. And until guys 422 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady who missed the opportunity. Patrick Mahomes missed 423 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Now it's Lamar's Jackson Stern until these guys 424 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: stand end up and say, look, we're not gonna let 425 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: you pull the wool over eyes anymore. We're not gonna 426 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: let you. Probably gotta I gotta ask you. So imagine 427 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: being in Pat Mahomes circle. He says, guys, they gave 428 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: me a hundred forty mill guaranteed, and you're going to 429 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: be that guy who says that's all why didn't you 430 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: get it all guaranteed? Like that is gonna be me 431 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: because we've seen now Patrick Mahomes took this less money 432 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: with the idea that they were going to build a 433 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: dynasty in Kansas City. What's happened since that he loses 434 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: his best receiver, Tyree Hill. Well that that's that's a 435 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: little trouble. There's a chance that they're left tackle which 436 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: they traded for Orlando Brown is going to be gone 437 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: because they can't reach a deal with him. He's playing, Yeah, 438 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: he's playing on the franchise tag. They just lost the 439 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Honey Badger, right, so where's all that money going? Like 440 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams have shown us over the last 441 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: couple of seasons, and yea, even the New Orleans Saints 442 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: to a lesser degree. The salary cap is a myth. 443 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: It's a fake number put out by the owners and 444 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: the NFL to make you think that, hey, you can't 445 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: go over this amount, or else we don't make money, 446 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: or else we don't profit. So what do you guys 447 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: do instead? Jerry Jones, I'm gonna convert this to assigning bonus. 448 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna convert this into an incentive. I'm gonna convert 449 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: this this kind of bonus, and suddenly you can kick 450 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: the can down the road to the cows come home 451 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: and continually add big name players, big price players, and 452 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: you're just fine, what's the excuse if you are the chiefs, 453 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, saying why can't we afford to keep these guys? 454 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: The Rams were paying Jared Goff to not be on 455 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: the roster, to go along with Matthew Stafford. They had 456 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: money for had money for Jalen Ramsey, they had money 457 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: for Cooper Cup, they had money for Robert Robert Woodson 458 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: wasn't even playing. As much as I love the Rams, 459 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: let's just put it in perspective. Um, They did win 460 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: the super Bowl? Correct, Can we see what happens going forward? Like, 461 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: remember they were before winning the Super Bowl, they were 462 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: pilloried as well. They hate draft picks they made, didn't 463 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: they make shirts about we who cares about that? Draft picks? Whatever? Right? 464 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: That's right. They have one super Bowl and I don't 465 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: even think they made the super Bowl before this. Correct? 466 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: They did with Jared Goff. They lost the Patriots. Jared 467 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: that's right, Yes, Jared Goff did lose. They didn't do 468 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: anything there, You're right, Um, they I think three points 469 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: like the lowest offense ever it was. It was right. 470 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: I forgot about that, right because Goff limited them. Um. 471 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: Tom Brady won six super Bowls in nineteen seasons. I 472 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: guess he went what six and two or three with 473 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots? Again, he took less and they did have 474 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: a dynasty. Yes, maybe the Craft was saving some for himself. Hey, 475 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: you know a billionaire, this is what's he gonna do? Um, 476 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: But they were going to the super Bowl like every year, 477 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: every other year. They were dominant. So I don't think 478 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: Brady cared Mahomes. Let's count his seasons. Um on the 479 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: rookie deal, a f C championship won the Super Bowl, 480 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: lost the Super Bowl, and then lost the a f 481 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: C Championship right to the Bengals. Now, coming out of 482 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: the rookie deal, let's see what happens. Can they keep 483 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: it going Patriots style? As long as he's healthy, I 484 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: think they'll be good. Um, But when you're on that 485 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: rookie deal, you could load up everywhere else. Now you 486 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: got to load up everything on the quarterback. And I 487 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: think I'm concerned with their offense. I think in the 488 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: regular season will be fine. Right, regular season, everybody will eat. 489 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, rob look at who's dominated against 490 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: the Bills. Tyreek Hill against uh the forty niners when 491 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: they were down in the fourth quarter and they needed 492 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: that big play third and fifteen. Who's my homes looking for? 493 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill? Tyreek Hill two years ago against the Bills 494 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs as a juggernaut, like he is their guy. 495 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: When you get to the playoffs and it's all the 496 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: best players, you need stars. And I'm just telling you 497 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: right now, I do not have a lot of faith 498 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: when you're facing the Bills secondary the Juju Smith, Schuster, 499 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Nicole Ardman and m vs are gonna be those guys. 500 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: Who are putting up eleven for a buck fifty and 501 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Now, Kelsey is gonna be fine, but he 502 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: also is thirty three years old, I believe, So you 503 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: don't have a star wide receiver that can get separation. Sorry, 504 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Kelsey turns thirty three in October. And you know again, 505 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: everybody thought the Rams were in trouble when Robert Woods 506 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: went down, Well we forgot Cooper cup is maybe the 507 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: best receiver in the NFC, and nobody can guard him. 508 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: So you have the star receiver, you're gonna be fine 509 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: and you can you know, errupt the way Tyree killed it. 510 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: I just don't know if in the playoffs the Chiefs 511 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: will be able to do that. We'll see. Tyreek kills 512 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: don't really go on trees, but we'll see. Like maybe 513 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: you remember he was like what fifth fifth round pick 514 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: because of the college incident, Like I don't know, the 515 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: sky More turned into a superstar. Maybe um, but they're 516 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to find somebody. And I will say this, 517 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: their defense will be better. Rob guess they lost Honey 518 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Badger on the back end, but they did. I believe 519 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Pace Snead. I like the draft pick of McDuffie Um, 520 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: they drafted Carl of just the produce kids, so I 521 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: think their defense will be better and the offense will 522 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: be as good. But again, I'm not that concerned that 523 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't take all the money. Um, and I think 524 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna be right. There are Super Bowl contenders for 525 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: at least the next five years, don't you. Yeah, I 526 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: agree with everything you said, But what I'm saying is 527 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: there's no reason why they can't contend and he still 528 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: gets paid. Like the Shawn Watson perfect example, it gets 529 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: a fully guarantee deal. So the Cleveland Browns made it 530 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: so that his salary cap for this season only a 531 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: million dollars. You mean to tell me that the Chiefs 532 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: couldn't do that for Tyree Hioe. Of course they could. 533 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: Of course they could, they chose not to. And that's 534 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is when guys have leverage in the NFL, 535 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: especially because the NBA's got fully guarantee contracts, mayor the 536 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: Baseball got fully guarantee contracts, the way the NFL is 537 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: not for long, you can get traded cut, pay cut 538 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: at any time. When the guys who actually have power 539 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: don't use it. It hurts every one else around them 540 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: on your own team, and the guy's coming up behind you. 541 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: So that's why to bring this full circle, if I'm 542 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I'm holding the line that he has leverage. 543 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: They have. Their entire team is built around him, Their 544 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: their offense there, even the way the way their defense 545 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: plays is built around what he does as a runner 546 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: as a thrower for that offense. So if I'm him, 547 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm making it very uncomfortable for the Baltimore Ravens until 548 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: they give me four years, two d plus million dollars 549 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. I'm sure Ravens fans right now are a 550 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: little bit nervous because if Lamar does that, it's gonna 551 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: get ugly. But I'll just say, even if he does it, 552 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: he's still gotta play this year. I mean, I can't 553 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: see him holding out and not playing at all and 554 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: then they'll just say, fine, we'll franchise Tag you and 555 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: then you can franchise Tag again. So he's at least 556 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: locked in for three more years, right rob. Practically, I 557 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: think at the minimal that, like, in a practical situation, yeah, 558 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: he's locked in. Are you if are you advising Lamar 559 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Jackson hold out a and not play until he gets 560 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: a deal. If I was advising him, yeah, wow, cutthroat. Well, 561 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a lot of friends. Front office 562 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: people get paid Jason, Well, of course, I mean I 563 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: think you both side. You can win on both sides, right, 564 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: you can? And that that's the thing is like this 565 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: idea that the team can't be successful if they pay 566 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: their guys. It just doesn't make sense. There's a way 567 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: for Baltimore to give Lamar Jackson all the money and 568 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: still funagle the cap in such a way that they 569 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 1: can keep Mark Andrews, they can add a receiver, they 570 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: can do whatever. They just choose not to. We we uh, 571 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: we need to get the Saint the Saints cap guy 572 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: on the podcast because for whatever reason, every year the 573 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: chance you're like, oh, geez, New Orleans is in couch 574 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: salary cap. Hell, they're they're major trouble. And then like 575 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they were fine and they added 576 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: Honey Badger and they added Juice Landry and it's like, wait, what, 577 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm bullish on the Saints. I think 578 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: they're a playoff team next year. I'm with you. I mean, 579 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: if Winston is healthy, Michael Thomas, Juice, Landry, and Olavey. 580 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: Usually rookies come in and they've got to play like 581 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: the one or two. It's important. Olivia is going to 582 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: come in like maybe the number three guy, like a 583 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: slot guy. Uh Saints cheez, they're dangerous. Um. All right, Rob, 584 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: that's enough rabble rousing from Monday morning. We'll be back tomorrow. 585 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you then