WEBVTT - It's a Beautiful Day in the Fiberhood 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:09.160 It's ready. Are you didn't touch? With technology? With tech 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:17.640 Stuff from how stuff flix dot com. Hello again, everyone, 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.680 and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.840 and I am an editor at how Stuff works dot com. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.200 Sitting acrossing me as usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:32.879 So have you? Uh is your and it's kind of 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.280 a personal question. Is your internet sort of you know, 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:41.320 clogged up? Could you use more fiber in your internet diet? 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.320 I'm sure I could? And Google, if you're listening, I 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:50.000 would like some Google Fiber. Ah terrible, terrible jokes aside um, 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.320 and I really wanted to avoid it, but I couldn't. Um, 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.800 I'm weak. Uh yeah, we're we're going to talk about 0:00:55.800 --> 0:01:00.560 Google Fiber, which isn't a new breakfast supplement, is in 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:05.280 fact really really fast internet, even for those parts of 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.959 the world that have pretty darn fast internet. Um. You 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.360 know this is this is really cutting edge. UM. A 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.200 lot of us here in the United States where Google 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:19.479 Fiber is is operating, have uh even talking about broadband 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:25.199 speeds usually less than five megabets per second. Uh. Certainly 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:30.280 less than ten megabets per second, and that's reasonably fast 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.080 for a lot of applications. Minds faster than that, or 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.720 at least the advertised speed is faster than that. The 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.280 actual speed versus the advertised speed is also an issue. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.760 But um, yes, there are certain areas where you can 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:47.200 get faster, but we're talking way faster than even that. Yeah, no, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.760 I mean we we've we've talked about how South Korea 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.960 and UH and Iceland among other places, have you know, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.400 in the in the easily double digits, you know, thirty 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.600 or fifty megabets per second. But this is faster than that. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.680 This is talking about a gigabit per second. So a 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.040 thousand megabits per second. Yeah, that's that's incredibly fast. Now 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.040 to to really kind of get an idea about this, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.079 you have to go back a little bit. So well, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.640 I dusted it off, Yeah, yeah, we found it. I 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.320 was wondering what that big lump was under the sheet. Yeah, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.839 the stuff you should know. Guys left it in Uh. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.280 It was weird. I don't know what they were doing, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:34.160 but they were in apparently fourteenth century Scotland. There was like, yeah, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.920 it was crazy. I think they were shopping for Kilts. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.280 I could have told them that they needed to go 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.799 to seventeenth century at the at the earliest, but anyway 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:47.600 found it. Let's get in the way back machine. Okay. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.760 Now I'm just gonna set this to march here and 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:56.880 push the button. Frank all right, now it's gonna open 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.360 the door. You know, I don't remember that being so 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:07.960 disorienting deafening, Wasn't it amazing? Yeah? For a minute there, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.760 all I would I could hear was bagpipe music. Well, 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.200 that's still some after effects from the way back Machine. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.600 So Google announced in March that they were going to 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.720 do this. They were going to run fiber out to 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.280 some community in the United States and it would give 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.320 speeds up to a gig of it per second, and 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.799 uh and and the cities across the United States responded 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:37.800 pretty enthusiastically, all wanting to um but all of them, 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.880 many of them wanting to to court Google to come there. So, uh, 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.880 let's see if let's see let me just let me 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.720 just unroll this map here. Okay, so you see you 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:55.160 see the state here, Um, that's it's a state, Kansas. Okay. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.120 Now you see this city here, Topeka. All right, you 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.120 know what Topeka did in order to try and at 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.520 Google to come there. Is that the city that renamed 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.840 itself Google. Yes, they renamed themselves Google for a day, Kansas, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.320 Google Kansas. That's not a command. We're not asking you 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.960 to go out and Google Kansas. That's what Kansas, Topeka, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.320 Kansas renamed itself in order to try and tempt Google 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.800 to choose that city or the for the test run 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.440 of Google Fiber. Yes. Yes, and that's actually not too 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.880 far from when they actually from where they actually did 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.880 decide to land. Actually, we should probably get back to 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.479 present day to talk about that. All right, Hey, after this, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.359 you want to play some golf. I was thinking of 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.159 getting some Scotch jaggs, you know, maybe some haggis, which 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:44.120 is weird. All right, get back in alright, it's tight 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.840 in here, all right, it's all the sheep, alright, press 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:53.159 the button, alright, so let's get back to our normal 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.920 spaces here. Um, yeah, it did. Actually Google did choose 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:04.840 a city not incredibly far from Topeka. The city chosen 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:09.400 was Kansas City. Actually two cities called Kansas City as well. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.880 As it happens, they're not exactly distant from one another. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.680 All right, So if you are not from the United States, 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.280 or maybe you are from the United States, but you're 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:22.960 not really familiar with Kansas and Missouri. There are cities 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:27.960 that neighbor one another, both called Kansas City, and one 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.480 is in Missouri and one is in Kansas and UH, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:36.120 the Kansas and Missouri rivers sort of defined the borders 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.279 of these cities to some extent. Kansas City was what 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.800 Google chose to extend the fiber to to use as 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:48.279 the test run for Google Fiber, and both Kansas City, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.800 Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri, where it will get the 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:57.800 Google Fiber and this initial run UH, the specific neighborhoods 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:03.279 within these cities will be determined by how passionately the 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.440 the inhabitants want Google Fiber. They actually have to go 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.040 in and register, put their ZIP code in UH to 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.280 try and petition, essentially Google to run fiber out to 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.799 that neighborhood because running this fiber is going to be expensive, 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.400 so Google wants to make sure that they can get 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.200 the most bang for the buck by running the fiber 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.720 out to the neighborhoods where people are saying, I'm going 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.559 to be a subscriber, I want this service so so 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.479 so what does Google call those groups of people? They 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:41.279 call these areas fiber hoods. Okay, I think that's a 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:45.840 name that has been met mostly with um, yeah, exactly. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.320 That's the reaction I've heard from almost all of my 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:53.000 tech journalism buddies. Actually, I imagine that most people go, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.119 that's really silly. But it's okay by me if Google 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:01.080 will put one gig a bit internet in my house. Yeah, um, yeah, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.520 it's kind of interesting to UH to talk about that. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.960 You think about that, Um, we're talking for for the 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.960 purposes of this exercise, we're talking about sort of the 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.480 days before every home, and I use every loosely UH 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:20.280 is wired for telephone, and every home is wired for electricity. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.760 I mean that infrastructure is pretty robust now, but Google 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.720 is starting from scratch in a lot of this case. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:31.800 I mean, UH, we talk about UH DSL for example, 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:36.120 or cable. Um that that information that internet service is 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.760 coming in over copper. In the case of UH cable, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.760 it's you know, copper cable or twisted pair copper in 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:47.840 the case of phone based internet services. There's some fiber 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:52.920 networks out there already, but they are they're the exception 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.960 as opposed to the rule. Yeah, yeah, I mean fiber 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:00.720 optics are play a very important role in our telecom communications, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:05.520 but they're more uh backbone if you will. Then they 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:10.200 are individually wired neighborhood. There's there. There are very few 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.640 true examples of fiber to the home. There are some, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:19.040 but it's not widespread. Yeah, I mean a Verizon FiOS 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.000 up in the Northeastern United States primarily, um, but they 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:27.520 don't reach speeds like this. Um so you know this 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.760 is this is well actually this also sort of reminds 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:34.559 me of thunderbolt um and tells technology which was initially 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:39.280 going to be called something different light peak light peak, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.720 which uh uh you know, was going to use fiber 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:47.200 optics signals transferring information by light rather than over as 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.120 an electronic signal over copper. What's interesting is that first 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:55.559 generation of light peak and Thunderbolt wires happens to use copper. Yes, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.440 they have not made that transition to fiber optics in 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.440 that line of products as of yet. Um. So this 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.360 is you know, not foreign, brand new technology, but it 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.199 is cutting edge for the way they're using it. And 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.600 they're having to do this all uh you know, not 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.240 by hand, but I mean they're laying new networks. Yeah, 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.200 and it's it's expensive. It's a lot of work. It's 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.079 a lot of construction that you have to worry about. 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.040 You have to get permits for all the stuff, you 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.960 have to schedule all this stuff so that you try 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.839 and impact the neighborhoods as little as possible while you're 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.120 trying to lay all this this fiber optic cable, try 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:35.679 not to hit all the other all the other lines, gases, electricity, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.600 and yeah, there's there's just a lot of work. Yeah, 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.400 so it's a it's a huge project. And so what 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.679 Google has done is it's asked people to um to 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:50.040 essentially petition Google to bring the fiberhood, to make their 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.720 neighborhood of fiberhood. And you have to hit a certain 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:58.040 threshold before Google will consider your neighborhood. And there are 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.600 a lot of different things that factor into that consideration. 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.640 Where else Google will be building that network. So the 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.360 easier the closer your neighborhood is to an existing fibrahood, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.080 the better your chances are because it's an extension of 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.599 something that's already there. If you're if you are in 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.440 an isolated neighborhood that really wants this, but all the 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.280 surrounding neighborhoods around you don't really care. It makes it 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.320 much more challenging for Google. Even if even if the 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.599 passion is there within that one neighborhood, you have to 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.000 figure out, well, we're gonna be running cable there somehow, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.200 So that's this is a problem. You have to know 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.000 who are the people in your fiberhood, the people that 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.160 you meet while you're walking down the street, the people 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.000 that you meet each day it's a beautiful day in 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.360 the fibrahood. If you if you can talk them into 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.400 uh signing up with you, your your chances improved significantly. Yes, Now, 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.720 the it's it's not it's not a free service or anything. Now, 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.960 this is for one thing. In order for you to 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.280 be in on the ground floor of this. Uh, there's 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.760 a three or fee which you pay so that you 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.640 that goes towards the construction fee that Google will have 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.600 to pay. And then there's a monthly subscription fee if 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.240 you want that gigabit per second Internet connection. Uh it's 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.400 seventy dollars I believe, yes, seventy dollars if you want 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:21.640 internet alone each month. Oh wait, did I say internet alone? Yes? 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.520 Believe it or not? Uh. The this brand new service 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.679 is like many others here in the United States, you 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.680 can bundle it with another service and for Google, this 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:38.040 this new services television. UM there if you if you 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.920 decide you want the TV with it, um, you can 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.599 add that to now TV and internet is a d 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:51.200 twenty dollars a month, which is competitive with a lot 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.880 of other services and a lot of other cities which 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.320 I want to come back to later. Um, but this 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.760 is this is sort of an interesting thing too. They 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:05.400 are including a DVR with this with eight tuners, which 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.640 means you can watch and or record eight shows at 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.920 one time, which is kind of a lot if you 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.480 have only one screen. But you know, um, I for 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.640 every hour I watch, I record seven more. I will 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.800 never have the time to watch all the TV I 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:26.600 want to watch. It's kind of like YouTube, how you know, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.160 sixty two hours whatever is added every minute, So therefore 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.800 there's way more video that has added every minute that 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.800 you could ever possibly watch. Yes, exactly, UH it can 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:42.640 record apparently these um, these new uh DVRs can record 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.240 up to five hours of high definition TV. Now. It 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.080 is important to note, um that one gig a bit 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:54.640 of bandwidth can give you a whole lot of information. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:13:01.240 So high definition programming, UH, streaming audio and video via Internet. 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.520 You should have no hiccups really with any of that. 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.160 You should have clear signals as far as TV, as 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.120 far as Internet goes. Of course, your mileage may vary, UM, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.400 you know, once the kids into practice. But those of 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:20.520 us who use a UM an online service for what 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.319 for example, UM, some of the the streaming movie services UM, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.839 you know, you might have hiccups depending on what kind 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.000 of service you have, depending on the speed of your 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.560 Internet UH, in some cases, depending on the weather, UM 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.720 you know, those things. Those things factor into our services. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.160 And for Google Fiber it should be significantly less. So 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.640 they're they're offering a a competitive product to the people 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.280 of Kansas City. UM at that that offers them, I 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.440 would say I would argue a premium product at a 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:57.040 competitive price. They also have offered to UH to build 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:01.920 free connections to a certain selection of public buildings in 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:07.000 both Kansas cities. UM. The two cities got together and 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.040 made up a list of public buildings that they thought 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.280 should be connected to this and Google is going to 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.320 connect them for free as part of as part of 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.600 the whole deal of bringing this to the Kansas City area. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.640 So that's kind of cool too that this gigabit per 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:26.720 second connection is going to be a public utility in 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.360 certain instances like I would imagine, you know, if if 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:35.240 it's connected to certain colleges or libraries that kind of stuff. Um, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.600 that would be a huge benefit for anyone who uses 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.160 those facilities. And as an added incent of the first 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:47.320 subscribers are being offered a Google Nexus seven tablet. I 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.480 I have used said tablet, actually have one in my 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.720 bag right now. Um. Yeah, and that tablet can be 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:58.000 used as even a controller for the TV I believe, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.400 so then you have a big tablet remote control. Yep, sou. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.760 So these are things that that make Google Fiber really 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.400 compelling story and and for the first few days at 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.680 least in the tech media, um, after they announced that 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.920 they were going ahead and doing this and could please 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.240 people in Kansas City please speak up if they were interested. Uh, 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.840 there was a lot of coverage And since then I've 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.280 seen a lot of people saying, hey, well, you know what, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:28.280 it ain't that great, Um, the thing is grapes there. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.800 I E. Well, I think I think it's interesting to 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.000 talk about the the benefits and detriments of it, or 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.800 as one article I saw it put pros and cons 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.360 um you know, it's not the kind of thing. It's 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.200 true if you if you live in Seattle, Washington, which 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.600 for those of you not um familiar with American geography, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.560 that's pretty darn far away from Kansas City. It's not 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:55.160 next door, no no, uh so for them, Kansas City 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.640 is not in their fiberhood. UM. So, the people who 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:03.200 serve See to Washington with UH Internet service and TV 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.360 service probably are not quaking in their boots at the 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:11.400 prospect of Google walking in tomorrow and offering fiber service. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:17.200 But they should be cons thinking about it. I mean, Chattanooga, Tennessee, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:22.000 for example, has an option for if you are Internet 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:26.520 subscribing in Chattanooga, you may qualify for their one gig 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.360 a bit UH Internet service. Now there is a hefty 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.240 feet that goes along with it. It's more expensive, or 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.000 at least was last time I checked, than what Google 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.760 is offering. Um. But that's being offered by a private company, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.360 and the people in Seattle are certainly not worried about 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.880 them coming in tomorrow. But Google, on the other hand, 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.360 has a bit more capital at its at its uh 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:54.080 Google's pockets are deep, y'all. That's what I was going for. So, uh, 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.400 this is a test for Google, and they have made 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.600 it clear that it's a test. So the question is 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:06.159 which fiberhood outside Kansas, the Kansas cities is going to 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.479 be next? So what's going to happen? It's I mean, 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.719 Google has definitely shown an interest in this sort of 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.000 thing before, and in fact, when they announced it back 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.280 in March, it was clear that this is kind of 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.600 a pilot program and it could have been anywhere that 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.480 really spoke up. And if it works, then we can 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.840 expect it to eventually roll out to other cities. And 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.679 you know, how Google chooses those cities is probably going 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.359 to be a pretty complicated process, partly by how realistic 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.399 is it to lay the infrastructure. Some cities it may 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:42.080 be way more difficult than others. Um things like population 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.880 density are going to matter because of course, if everyone's 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.639 all spread out, then that's a lot more work for 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.080 a certain number of customers that you might be able 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.679 to you know, you might be able to find the 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.520 same number in a much more condensed area in a 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.719 different city, which could theoretically be easier to do if 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.920 you don't have to lay as much cable or disru 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.400 as much of the area. Geography will also play a part. 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.399 Mountainous areas are are notoriously difficult to to lay cable in, 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.040 which is why so many people in the mountains use 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.439 satellite television. Yeah, it's there are a lot of factors 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.680 that are going to go into play for this kind 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:22.359 of decision making process. So um, even, and that's if 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.960 this program is a success and if Google can actually 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:31.199 see it generate revenue, because it may turn out that 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.719 Google really takes a look at this and says, you know, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.919 we're charging a fair price as far as the market 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.480 is concerned, but we're not getting enough return for this 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.160 to be profitable. We're gonna lose money on it. Does 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.320 it make sense for us to support it? If that's 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:50.440 the case, we may not see the fiber rollout anywhere else. Yea, 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.280 yea and uh well hey in uh inve we've already 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:59.160 seen h Google shutter many projects that either duplicate other 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.000 services even though they had some unique qualities to them 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.879 or yeah, exactly, and so um, you know, Google is 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.919 not as deep as its pockets are. Google is not 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:11.600 going to just throw money at it. If it if 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.720 it's never going to produce any kind of return. However, 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.560 I think that this is going to make And this 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.320 is one of the very first things I thought when 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.080 I saw that the uh you know, the real plan 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.560 for Google Fiber and the cost of what it was 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.840 gonna be for a subscriber and all these things, I thought, 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.960 you know what, all these other companies, the big companies 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:37.439 that offer internet access, telephone, and uh TV services to people, 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.840 especially in the United States, because I can think of 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.160 those companies off the top of my head, I'm familiar 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:47.040 with them, They're going to have to reconsider what they offer. 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.119 Because when when a company the size of Google decide 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:52.880 it wants to get into something like this, and it's 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.280 making this offer, and it's it's on the table for 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:59.280 the people of Kansas City and well Kansas City, Um, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.800 the people who are are offering those services in Kansas 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.320 City right now are going, how are we going to 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.800 compete with this? And they're going to have to compete 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.840 with that in other cities that that Google wants to 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.399 to make that challenge in. So ultimately, this is going 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.960 to bring a lower cost I hope, is going to 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.240 bring a lower cost offering that offers better quality services 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:24.640 for the rest of us. Competition is always a good thing, yeah, 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:30.000 for the consumer at least. Well true competition always turns 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.840 out to be good for the consumer. Now, there are 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.720 a lot of industries out there where there appears to 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:40.480 be competition but isn't. But there isn't really. Yeah, that's 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.760 more like collusion competition. But I'm not going to get 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:49.480 into that. Um, you don't like price fixing only only 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:55.960 at five star restaurants? Um. Yeah, it's uh, it's it's 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.800 such an interesting project to me. I really, I'm you know, 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.320 I remember that I was is like when when the 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.760 first announcement came out in March, I remember thinking, I 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.200 hope at Lanta really really rallies to get this, because 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.359 I would love to have the ability to tap into 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:16.320 that kind of broadband speed. And uh, you know, of 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.160 course that's not how it turned out. And I'm still 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.600 hopeful that perhaps Atlanta would be on uh not too 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.240 far down the list of potential cities should Google decide 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:29.440 to roll this out to larger areas or areas beyond 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.560 the Kansas City area. Um, and you know you think 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:38.920 about that about how that would affect everything you do online. 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.480 I mean you know, you potentially you would be able 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:46.840 to download huge files at in in a heartbeat, but 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.440 you'd also be able to do things like watch content 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.760 streaming without too much difficulty. You could get in high 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:57.760 definition without worrying about buffering problems things like that. There's 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:02.760 one other thing that's curious about this what UM. We've 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:07.880 talked about certain providers offering caps on bandwidth before, like 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:12.520 especially for for UH smartphones. That's a that's a big 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:17.240 deal for smartphones, especially because uh you use UH data 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.640 over a network, any kind of network, and you're using 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:25.639 up a portion of the traffic that that network can carry. 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:31.480 UM for for mobile networks, that's pretty taxing. But you 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.119 know they're off also having that same problem with cable 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:38.000 and UH telephone networks that are using being used to 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:43.240 deliver DSL and cable UM wireless internet networks UM y 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.480 max for example. So uh So a lot of providers 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:50.399 offer a cap you can download this amount of traffic 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.800 per month, after which you will be cut off or 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.240 you will be throttled so it's slower, or you'll have 0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.000 to pay extra. Google Fiber as of right now, maybe 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.320 it's part of the test, but Google Fiber is not 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:07.480 being capped. It's also interesting to me that there are 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:12.280 essentially three different approaches to what you can do with 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:17.360 Google Fiber. All right, so, UM, if you go there, 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.919 actually have a free Internet select option, and this is 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:26.040 if you pay the three construction fee, then you would 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:32.080 get free internet access for at least seven years. But 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:37.080 the speed would be five megabits per second, so five 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.040 megabits per second download, one megabit per second upload. So 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.520 you you are throttled in the sense that you aren't 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:47.399 going to get that super fast UM connection that people 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:51.880 who are paying the full subscription are getting, but you 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.920 are if you're doing it for free once you pay 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.920 that upfront cost of three so for seven years, I mean, 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:03.200 that's pretty that's that's pretty incredible UM. And they will 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.679 even Google even has it where they'll have a payment 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:07.560 plan where you can do twenty five dollars a month 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.000 for a year and then so you're paying twenty five 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:16.080 dollars for five megabits per second download speeds UH for 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:17.680 for one year, and then after that for the next 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:21.399 six years you don't pay anything. That is a sweet, 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.720 sweet deal for those of us who are used to 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:28.520 those speeds but much higher prices. UM and then for 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:33.320 the Internet and TV Internet deals, if you enter into 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:39.239 a contract, they waived the three construction fee. So I 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.719 believe with the Internet deal it's a one year contract 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.399 at seventy dollars a month, and with the TV and 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.280 Internet it's a two year contract at dollars a month. 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.200 And in either of those, if you enter the contract, 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.399 they waived that fee. Now you don't have to enter 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.440