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Speaker 1: ha ha, funny, funny, funny. Yes, Week seven Sunday in
Speaker 1: the books and uh a bit of a wild Sunday. Uh,
Speaker 1: some surprising outcomes, some blowouts in the late portion of
Speaker 1: the Sunday schedule. But we are down to two undefeated
Speaker 1: teams now one winless team unfortunately, a team that I
Speaker 1: identify with very closely. And um, some interesting football to
Speaker 1: go over, Greg, what do you think about today's football?
Speaker 1: I mean, um, when you can assign yourself Washington versus
Speaker 1: Dallas in Detroit, Atlanta early, it's like you've got your
Speaker 1: finger on the pulse of what's happening in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean I did, I did. I made a trade
Speaker 1: with Chuck Who's gonna come on later. Um, but no,
Speaker 1: it was a fun day, like when it's like when
Speaker 1: the Jets gave the Colts seventy seven second round picks
Speaker 1: for Sam Donald. You know. Sometimes Greg texted me on
Speaker 1: after our our network show. I'm saying I would really like, Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch the Saints game. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, I just I just wanted to watch. Well,
Speaker 1: he went and suggested that he switched with Shook, and
Speaker 1: I said, absolutely, like reach out to Shook and do
Speaker 1: the legwork. And then he's like, well, now, actually I
Speaker 1: don't think I want to do that. I'm overthinking it.
Speaker 1: That we never spoke again, and then he tells me
Speaker 1: this morning that, you know, the Backwater channels were a
Speaker 1: buzz as Gregg is trading with Shook games without an
Speaker 1: I changed my mind again. You know, you guys go
Speaker 1: like more in detail, you charge these games. Mark kept
Speaker 1: it going. I had already I edited out. I'm not
Speaker 1: touching it. Oh no, this is gold Greg. Remember when
Speaker 1: remember when the the you know, our analytics expert here,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to even name him because I'm kind
Speaker 1: of mocking it here now is like, you know, make
Speaker 1: sure no matter what you do, it's like the first
Speaker 1: five minutes of the show, don't lose them with some
Speaker 1: jibber jabber, Like get right into the big stuff. That's
Speaker 1: when you lose that audience. Mission accomplished. Whenever we have
Speaker 1: like thirteen games to talk about, if we can just
Speaker 1: like bury the audience of seven minutes of jibber jabber,
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. Nick Shook is coming later.
Speaker 1: Uh he of the big trade win over Rosenthal. Uh
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. But let's get going with Yes,
Speaker 1: the matchup in Nashville between two undefeated's. It's do or
Speaker 1: die for the Titans who have one time out in
Speaker 1: their pocket. Doskowski in this range this year. As he
Speaker 1: kicks it on its way, the kick is white right,
Speaker 1: it is all right. Wow, I can't even hardly believe it.
Speaker 1: But a nice Midwestern sound that was Bill Hill Grove
Speaker 1: tounch Ilkin with a call W D. V e. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. The Titans
Speaker 1: badly outplayed the Steelers in the second half on Sunday,
Speaker 1: but a slow start coupled with the latest high profile
Speaker 1: failure by Stephen Kaskowski, allowed the Steelers to escape with
Speaker 1: a When Pittsburgh is six and oh for the first
Speaker 1: time since nine and now stand with the Seahawks as
Speaker 1: the only remaining undefeated teams in the NFL, um boys, Uh,
Speaker 1: strange game here because it's Steelers win the coin toss.
Speaker 1: They go on a nine minute, eighteen second drive ends
Speaker 1: with Deante Johnson touchdown. Uh, they get a three and out.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh does get the ball back, score another touch on
Speaker 1: it's fourteen. Zip. They're in complete control. It gets by
Speaker 1: the third quarter it's seven, and you know, my I
Speaker 1: start wandering. I'm saying, oh, what's going on in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Marx Browns are having some fun with the Bengals, like,
Speaker 1: but then all of a sudden, the Titans start doing
Speaker 1: the Titan thing and they get back into the game,
Speaker 1: and uh, they fall short because Gaskowski can't hit a
Speaker 1: kick that he's got a hit in that spot. So
Speaker 1: that's where we're at the Steelers. To me, um, as
Speaker 1: good as they looked in the first half, the second
Speaker 1: half was a little bit concerning. But listen, you can't
Speaker 1: take away what they did in those first two quarters.
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger looked really good in the first have did
Speaker 1: not look very good in the second half. James Conner
Speaker 1: is really doing good things for them. Uh this season.
Speaker 1: I've really been impressed by him so far this year.
Speaker 1: And um, the defense was able to make enough stops
Speaker 1: even if it wasn't their best effort to get the W.
Speaker 1: So the Steelers moved to six. And oh the Titans,
Speaker 1: they're kicking themselves because they had a golden opportunity here,
Speaker 1: uh for a huge comeback and want to come back.
Speaker 1: That would have been down twenty seven seven to the
Speaker 1: mighty Steelers. It didn't happen, and they're they're the reason
Speaker 1: they lost third downs. Titans were unable to stop the
Speaker 1: Steelers on third downs. Pittsburgh thirteen of eighteen third downs
Speaker 1: in the game, and they only had the ball for
Speaker 1: one minute and twenty one seconds in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: So keeping the offensive field was huge for Pittsburgh. I
Speaker 1: thought they took in the in the first half, Tennessee
Speaker 1: out of the game, and you know, this is a
Speaker 1: team that's played three games in thirteen days, and it
Speaker 1: showed a little bit. I thought, UM early on here,
Speaker 1: but we've talked about Big Ben's various troubles on on
Speaker 1: deep shots down the field, but what he's doing very
Speaker 1: well is carving defenses up mid range. And I think
Speaker 1: that they just this just strikes me as the most
Speaker 1: complete team, UM in the a f C and maybe
Speaker 1: in the league, because of what they can do on defense.
Speaker 1: But also you know, they got one catch from Chase
Speaker 1: Claypool today and so in return, you know, Deonte Johnson
Speaker 1: steps up. You mentioned James Conner. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: he's been up and down, but he made big plays
Speaker 1: for them. And Tennessee to come back from a seven
Speaker 1: to seven deficit the way they did, um, I thought
Speaker 1: it was impressive. You know, Gauskowski has been a real
Speaker 1: roller coaster ride, a true adventure, and you got the
Speaker 1: dip today. UM, the ugly part of that. But to me,
Speaker 1: Tennessee this doesn't take the shine off of who they
Speaker 1: are and what they want to be. They just had
Speaker 1: a first half where they played un characteristically. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they had like thirty yards on the ground
Speaker 1: well the last two weeks for Guskoski, So that's something
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to think about. I know he
Speaker 1: hit a big kick at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: but he had his struggles last week. I see this
Speaker 1: as as a Steelers defense game, even in the second half.
Speaker 1: The fact that you know, they got the ball on
Speaker 1: a Ben interception and then the Steelers defense shuts down Tennessee.
Speaker 1: That was one of six drives, so to Tennessee. At
Speaker 1: ten drives in this game, on six of them, they
Speaker 1: didn't have a first down. I mean that. I know
Speaker 1: they scored some points on the other drives, but it's
Speaker 1: and the Titans are awesome. They only end up with
Speaker 1: fifteen first downs on the day. If you have six
Speaker 1: drives where you go three and out or four and
Speaker 1: out like some of those drives were. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive, and you would expect the Steelers to
Speaker 1: take care of business when they do that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was really excited to um do like a reverse when
Speaker 1: middle dunk on your Ben Roethlisberger game manager assassination from
Speaker 1: Thursday Show, Greg and after the first four two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I'm not painting it as negative as you saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's kind of the style they're playing.
Speaker 1: I know, but through four four drives against an undefeated
Speaker 1: Titans team on the road, Pittsburgh had put up twenty
Speaker 1: four points and Ben was seventeen of twenty four for
Speaker 1: one sixty and two touchdowns. Deep shots or are they Johnson?
Speaker 1: You know, I think short and mid mid reign shots. Yes,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of his his game, which I guess
Speaker 1: is to your point of the big breeze uh moniker
Speaker 1: that you've tagged him with as well. The rest of
Speaker 1: the game after those first four drives, three points fifteen
Speaker 1: and uh three interceptions. The first pick was just you know,
Speaker 1: threw it up for grabs at the end of the
Speaker 1: first half, but the last two were definitely on him.
Speaker 1: Although the third pick, the one that's set up the
Speaker 1: Titans to nearly tie the game, was Juju Smith Schuster
Speaker 1: in coverage against the linebacker, you know, running around against
Speaker 1: the linebacker, couldn't get any separation. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on with Juju. Is he just not a guy
Speaker 1: that separates? I don't know, but Ben put it in
Speaker 1: a really good spot um, but Juju, the coverage was
Speaker 1: so tight that he couldn't like hold onto the ball
Speaker 1: and it got knocked out of his hand ends and
Speaker 1: then picked off on the deflection. So nice win for
Speaker 1: the Steelers. But also, you know, the shot of Big
Speaker 1: Ben on the sideline after Gaskowski went wide right was
Speaker 1: one of we got away with one here, because that
Speaker 1: could have been a killer loss. But they escape it,
Speaker 1: and uh man, they're looking good. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to the Bucks in a bit. Mark. That's my
Speaker 1: pick for the most balanced team in the league right now.
Speaker 1: But the Steelers when things are clicking right as they
Speaker 1: were early in this game, it is a reminder that
Speaker 1: their tops gear is pretty much ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 1: I think in a f C maybe the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: something to say about that. Let's move on. In the backfield,
Speaker 1: two receivers left, one a right, may feel back to
Speaker 1: pass looks going towards the end zone and it's caught
Speaker 1: by down petals. Joe touched down. Hey got it, Hey
Speaker 1: got it. The Rocky fromfis got it back. Children throw
Speaker 1: unbelievable catch, unbelievable throw. Jim Donovan and Doug Deacon w
Speaker 1: k r K. I can't believe Donovan People's Jones is
Speaker 1: a real name. Like I'm I'm thrilled that that there's
Speaker 1: a person that goes by that name. It's like that
Speaker 1: old Key and Peel sketch, Like that's what that name
Speaker 1: sounds like. But he made a name for himself today,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield hits Donovan People's Jones. Also the name you also,
Speaker 1: you always have to say the full names. It's so
Speaker 1: wild with eleven seconds to play, ceiling a wild one
Speaker 1: win over the Bengals. This also featured after that play,
Speaker 1: Hail Mary that very nearly completed. That would have been
Speaker 1: a fitting way to a wild game. Mark. Per the
Speaker 1: Elias Sports Bureau, this is the first game in NFL
Speaker 1: history with five go ahead touchdown passes in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter by the two teams. Mark the Cardiac kids are back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um. It was. It was a game of two.
Speaker 1: It was two sides of a coin for Cleveland because
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you know, and he has had his troubles
Speaker 1: in the last couple of contests. We know that started
Speaker 1: over five and for the second game in a row,
Speaker 1: through an interception on the first play and and that
Speaker 1: brought more news because on that play Odell Beckham. One
Speaker 1: of the reasons Donovan People's jones was, you know in
Speaker 1: there at the end, was that Odell Beckham went down
Speaker 1: with a knee injury. That Ian Rappaport has Um put
Speaker 1: a tweet out saying he'll get an m R. I
Speaker 1: but the concern is that it's very serious, and I
Speaker 1: think we usually know how those go when we get
Speaker 1: those Sunday reports. He was out of the game immediately,
Speaker 1: um Baker when he hit it, missed his first his
Speaker 1: fifth pass. I tweeted out because at that point Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow looked lights out. And we've been seeing it week
Speaker 1: after week. That is Cleveland, okay, with having the fourth
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the a f C North, and then
Speaker 1: and then he the last week or so. I'm not
Speaker 1: really jumping ship. Just look at the other quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the division. I mean, I I don't think he's the
Speaker 1: equal of Joe Burrow, but Um, perhaps psychically to lash
Speaker 1: me and and to shut me up. He completed twenty
Speaker 1: one passes in a row to finish the game before
Speaker 1: spiking the ball um on the at the end, and uh,
Speaker 1: he looked good. He looked good throwing the ball. I
Speaker 1: thought today, Um, he made some money throws. And on
Speaker 1: that final drive what what what to me looked like
Speaker 1: growth was they had no time outs and he had
Speaker 1: to go you know, near length of the field with
Speaker 1: no time outs and and it wouldn't have happened without
Speaker 1: some insane catches along the way. Um, you know Rashad Higgins,
Speaker 1: who Richard Higgins, who has shown chemistry with Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: two years ago then last year was out of the loops,
Speaker 1: seemed to be in the doghouse with the coaches. Has
Speaker 1: come on um again and he and he's a big
Speaker 1: part of that passing attack and he's gonna need to be.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be without Odell Beckham. I wanted to see
Speaker 1: what would happen with a thin receiving corps once he
Speaker 1: went down, and I thought they showed perhaps more chemistry
Speaker 1: than they have through the air and really any other game.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Um, I'd want to
Speaker 1: go watch that again. But another hair prison Bryant and
Speaker 1: today is I just found this out today with one
Speaker 1: of the more absurd um holidays that seems completely created
Speaker 1: out of finnair. It's tight end day apparently, Um, George
Speaker 1: Kittle made it up. So is it for Please tell
Speaker 1: me it's for a charity, because I I stomached it
Speaker 1: today because I was like, it must be for a cause.
Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for a cause, I am furious. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now kiddo came up with it last year, and I
Speaker 1: think they just they ran. If it's for a cause,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's for you know, George Kittle's personal enjoyment,
Speaker 1: that's what it is, right, but here to celebrate such
Speaker 1: a day. Um, Harrison Bryant, the rookie who we've talked
Speaker 1: about on the show before who looks legit. Um two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper was out with a pendicitis Uh, David and
Speaker 1: Joeku caught a past. You have to touchdown past. You
Speaker 1: have to wonder if it's the last action he will
Speaker 1: get in Cleveland. He's on the trade block. Um. I
Speaker 1: can't say enough about Joe Burrow. I just thought that
Speaker 1: there were Um, there was one play that really Uh
Speaker 1: it was third and eleven and Joe Burrow um took
Speaker 1: off on a run and it just like Cleveland defend.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense is a disaster and defended it poorly and
Speaker 1: he ran for a first down, but he made froze
Speaker 1: all over the field and their offensive line was banged
Speaker 1: up to at one point Jonah Williams went out with
Speaker 1: a neck injury. Um Trey Hopkins, their center was out,
Speaker 1: and it showed I mean that that it's they had issues.
Speaker 1: Um In Borrow, like he does week after week, made plays.
Speaker 1: So I think it's fair still to say that Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: in a very good division, is the quarterback looking up
Speaker 1: at the rest of these. But this was sort of
Speaker 1: a well it's different, you know, if it's Thursday night
Speaker 1: football and like I am able just to go, you know,
Speaker 1: sitting do that. I I mistakenly thought that I was
Speaker 1: covering Pittsburgh, Tennessee and was tracking that heavily the entire time,
Speaker 1: taking all these notes, and I'm discovered two minutes into
Speaker 1: the show that I had completely botched that and I
Speaker 1: had made a mistake. But anyways, um, I give Cleveland
Speaker 1: credit for being five ways to figure it out in
Speaker 1: the middle of the show. I think it it out
Speaker 1: four minutes ago. When you when you're um, when you're
Speaker 1: intro to that game went on and on. I thought
Speaker 1: he's at some point is Dan tossing this to me?
Speaker 1: I was a communication issue this morning that I read incorrectly.
Speaker 1: That's another it's another deep died that I'd like to
Speaker 1: take us down and how our show is produced. But
Speaker 1: I will I will stop there five and two, but
Speaker 1: I you know, we'll get some of my radar teams
Speaker 1: that have a clear ceiling. And I think Cleveland, this
Speaker 1: is this is good progress. But they're not five and
Speaker 1: two the same way that I look at UM other
Speaker 1: five and two teams we've encountered. But they could be different.
Speaker 1: You know, all these teams are gonna be different in December.
Speaker 1: I still really believe that, And so you you want
Speaker 1: to be five and two with a chance to be
Speaker 1: different and hopefully better in December, with Myles Garrett potentially
Speaker 1: UM trying to get a Defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: award in December. Every every game, like one of the
Speaker 1: first things I do check the Brown's box score, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching this one is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: did Myles Garrett get his forced fumble today? It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he got it, and he got two sacks and another
Speaker 1: tackle for loss. And and in these games where there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of defense, and the Browns don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of defense. A lot of times it comes
Speaker 1: down to Kent, do you have a guy that can
Speaker 1: make one or two plays? And Garrett kind of makes
Speaker 1: one or two huge plays every week, which is pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: And not to the labor this point, but when we
Speaker 1: had our discussion about the importance of sacks and getting
Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks, and it was deemed that Jadeveon Clowney
Speaker 1: doesn't need to get sacks, and by the way, he
Speaker 1: still has zero sacks this season. He's struggling. He's not
Speaker 1: even getting his hurries this year. Listen, Miles Garrett is
Speaker 1: an example why you could say stats is an overrated
Speaker 1: stat or something. But that guy changes games because he
Speaker 1: gets to the quarterback and he knocks the ball loose.
Speaker 1: He's a big time player. You know what. The Browns
Speaker 1: strike me as Mark, I see what you're saying with
Speaker 1: the ceiling, But they, to me, they feel like a
Speaker 1: nine and seven team. Maybe a bounce goes their way
Speaker 1: and they go ten and six, and they're playing in
Speaker 1: January in the playoffs, and they're giving someone a hard
Speaker 1: time on the road, like you're signing up for that
Speaker 1: in a second. Right, absolutely, So I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be like, you know, covertly down on the
Speaker 1: whole situation. I just I'm trying to view them the
Speaker 1: same way that I viewed on the teams. Go be
Speaker 1: a really good team. That's the next test for them.
Speaker 1: But good job getting off the mat after last week.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Ricky's not sitting at her desk. Uh
Speaker 1: where we live? Maybe she lost her connection? She's now
Speaker 1: she sat down, Now she got up again. Oh she's
Speaker 1: had the connection. Uh, Ricky, we should keep all this in, Ricky,
Speaker 1: come back to us, Ricky, what's happening? So you see
Speaker 1: that guy that just walked in my window? He just
Speaker 1: like he's my I guess just moved in next door.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but he knocked on the door with
Speaker 1: the pizza and he was like he kind of speaks
Speaker 1: broken English. He's like, can you cut the pizza for me?
Speaker 1: Because I don't have anything? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can give you a knife quick, and then he
Speaker 1: just asked like, what are you doing tonight? Like and
Speaker 1: I just gave him like a freaking butcher knife and
Speaker 1: I'm home alone and I don't know he just he's
Speaker 1: just knocked on my door and asked me to cut
Speaker 1: his pizza. Like, what am I supposed to? I don't
Speaker 1: want a strange man, Eric Erica. When a strange man
Speaker 1: knocks on your door and your home alone and he
Speaker 1: asked for something to cut with, you don't get your
Speaker 1: biggest knife from the kitchen and give it to him.
Speaker 1: This is like the skills one on one. Well, what
Speaker 1: could have you done? Not answer the door? That would
Speaker 1: be an He's literally knocking on my thing and I'm
Speaker 1: like hot like and then he's like, can you cut
Speaker 1: my pizza? And then he just asked when are you
Speaker 1: going to be done? Like the show, Let's let's keep
Speaker 1: the show moving. Let's close the curtains behind you because
Speaker 1: right now he has a free view for whatever. All right,
Speaker 1: where are we? Let's move on. Let's let's move on.
Speaker 1: Alert Alert, Alert, or maybe asker is to call on
Speaker 1: first and Chenna Jeff Wilson Jr. Back in takes the
Speaker 1: wide run right, breaks a tackle five touchdown San fran
Speaker 1: Cisco and that feels great, baby, Greg Papa Tim Ryan
Speaker 1: with the call deadbolt that door, Ricky Hollywood. Jeff Wilson Jr.
Speaker 1: Ran for a buck four team three touchdowns. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: threw three picks before being bench for Jared Stindham in
Speaker 1: the second half. The forty Niners cruise to a thirties
Speaker 1: three to six win over the Patriots. New England falls
Speaker 1: the two and four in what was the most lopsided
Speaker 1: home loss of the Bill Belichick Eraic greg After the game,
Speaker 1: The hood had One said that Cam Newton, quote absolutely
Speaker 1: close quotes, will remain his starter. Should it be so definite? Yes,
Speaker 1: because when Jared Stidham has played this year, he has
Speaker 1: not looked any better, including in the in the cameo
Speaker 1: in this game, I know it wasn't a lot of
Speaker 1: tape um, and I just think this ceiling for this team,
Speaker 1: especially offensively, you know it's not too high, but it's higher.
Speaker 1: With Cam Newton getting out of this crazy funk that
Speaker 1: he's in. You have to give the forty Niners defense credit. Um.
Speaker 1: But Cam is as streaky a quarterback as I've ever
Speaker 1: seen throwing the ball. I think that's been true his
Speaker 1: entire career. And he came out and you could just
Speaker 1: tell right away like he was off, like he was
Speaker 1: missing guys. He's been holding the ball a ton the
Speaker 1: last two weeks not seeing things clearly, and then when
Speaker 1: he does pull the trigger, it's like his interception was
Speaker 1: just you could almost see his mind like saying should
Speaker 1: I throw this or not? Interception, missing receivers like that
Speaker 1: was all bad and it wouldn't have mattered, like he
Speaker 1: could have been the best Cam Newton today. And the
Speaker 1: Patriots defense was never gonna get enough stops for them
Speaker 1: to compete in this game. They were very lucky to
Speaker 1: be only down at how off time. It was as
Speaker 1: one sided varsity j V as any half I would
Speaker 1: say of any two teams all year. The forty Niners
Speaker 1: had eighteen first downs at halftime and the Patriots had
Speaker 1: fifteen plays. And it's a reminder Kyle Shanahan not saying
Speaker 1: that like he's a better head coach than Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: but if I I would rather have an offensive head
Speaker 1: coach that can cook up magic with a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of craziness and injuries rather than a defensive coach with
Speaker 1: the game you know, with who can manage a game
Speaker 1: and have certain things, but has a team with clear flaws.
Speaker 1: Because Kyle Shanahan can still have these game plans where
Speaker 1: Jimmy g made a couple of nice plays early didn't
Speaker 1: have to really do much, And it's a coaching game,
Speaker 1: and their coaching was better. From a different perspective. Along
Speaker 1: similar lines, maybe Kyle Shanahan has a better GM than
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, whose GM is Bill Belichick, Because it feels
Speaker 1: like to me that the Chickens are coming home to
Speaker 1: roost here with a roster that's talent deficient and a
Speaker 1: quarterback that is at this stage of his career hot
Speaker 1: and cold, and there's gonna be games like this when
Speaker 1: a team comes in that has more talent than you,
Speaker 1: that's well coached, that the Patriots maybe aren't special anymore,
Speaker 1: and the fact that these games can happen for a
Speaker 1: team that no longer has a legendary quarterback behind senator
Speaker 1: to clean up the mess that no longer has UH
Speaker 1: can beat you one on one on offense, that the
Speaker 1: defense isn't special like it was for long stretches last year. Um,
Speaker 1: I wasn't like watching the I guess you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be like Mark. Let me know if you agree. I
Speaker 1: think you're supposed to be like watching the Patriots get
Speaker 1: getting whipped in Foxborough and be like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: this is happening. This is so weird, but none of
Speaker 1: it felt surprising to me, So I didn't like take
Speaker 1: any like Jet Miserable, Jet fan joy out of it
Speaker 1: because it just made sense. The Patriots aren't very good. Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it should surprise anyone who watched
Speaker 1: the Broncos Patriots game with the same cast of characters
Speaker 1: and Julian Edelman Um in time for Halloween becoming a
Speaker 1: complete ghost in an offense that has no direction, and
Speaker 1: and you are fair making a fair point on the
Speaker 1: GM side of things that a lot of this were
Speaker 1: systemic issues a year ago for New England. You just
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady masking over things that I think someone
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton um in a huge funk could not.
Speaker 1: The defense massed over a lot of that last year,
Speaker 1: so the defense falls through the floor. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got nothing to save you. And you know it's like
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Um, where I'd agree with you, Greg, is
Speaker 1: that he's put up, he's placed. He's faced Belichick four
Speaker 1: times and put up thirty an average of thirty points
Speaker 1: on him. And that came by the way he had
Speaker 1: him in the Super Bowl too. You can say whatever
Speaker 1: you want about that game ended. They put up thirty
Speaker 1: you know, they put up enough points to win that game.
Speaker 1: I mean, we knew it would be a great duel
Speaker 1: between I think two coaches that have like immen's respect
Speaker 1: for each other. But the forty Niners have war parts
Speaker 1: right now. They're pretty broken themselves. I mean, the minute
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson comes in and does a very Shanahan s
Speaker 1: thing by running for a hundred and twelve yards and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, Bang, he's being taken off on a cart.
Speaker 1: They can't get healthy. But I would look at the
Speaker 1: Niners overall globally and say they've had a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe west of the Eagles. Their injury issues have been
Speaker 1: um second to none, and they're winning games. I mean
Speaker 1: the whip they took care of the Rams. Uh, they
Speaker 1: absolutely decimated the Patriots today. That makes you think, um,
Speaker 1: when they get healthy, when that time comes, Even with
Speaker 1: Jimmy g looking quite average to me, um at best,
Speaker 1: I still give them a chance um to sneak into
Speaker 1: the wild card. I do too, because I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they've they've they put it on some teams, but they
Speaker 1: lost Deebo Samuel at the end. Of this game in
Speaker 1: a blowout was a tough spot. Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: how serious that was. And you lost Wilson and the
Speaker 1: reserves on defense like Sherman and d Ford and some
Speaker 1: of the bigger name guys. They're coaching through it, but
Speaker 1: they're probably not back for another month. Um, it's amazing
Speaker 1: what they've done. I also think they're a terrible matchup
Speaker 1: for the Patriots because that the Patriots can't stop the run,
Speaker 1: and that's how Belichick's defense is normally start. They're so
Speaker 1: slow at linebacker, I mean Bentley and Jennings, who's this
Speaker 1: rookie like the outside zone like they they're set up
Speaker 1: to stop some passing teams, and so I think the
Speaker 1: Bills next week, like that's sort of the Patriots last
Speaker 1: stand in this division. They're set up to possibly stop
Speaker 1: some passing teams, but they cannot stop the run and
Speaker 1: they just run it so well. The Patriots, by the way,
Speaker 1: also lost Joe Tuoney, their center in this game to
Speaker 1: kill Harry had a concussion. You mentioned Edelman was in
Speaker 1: and out. He's been so slow and injured this year.
Speaker 1: He had two throws to him today. Both of those
Speaker 1: throws were intercepted. Uh So, the Niners are now four
Speaker 1: and three, and you just it's it's incredible how quickly
Speaker 1: things have changed for them, because you know, they were
Speaker 1: coming off loss to the Eagles in primetime, tough loss.
Speaker 1: Then you get blown out seventeen GM G gets benched
Speaker 1: and there's just like panic in the streets about the
Speaker 1: fort with the schedule up ahead. Then they beat the
Speaker 1: Rams and the Patriots on the road. What lies ahead
Speaker 1: And we'll dig into this more as the week goes along.
Speaker 1: But at Seattle home Packers, at Saints, at Rams home,
Speaker 1: Bills all coming up now, So they're not out of
Speaker 1: the woods by any stretch, and at four and three,
Speaker 1: they're very vulnerable to get knock kind of out of
Speaker 1: this wild card race. And Jimmy G looked a lot
Speaker 1: better today. I know they're two picks. One of them
Speaker 1: was just you know, at the end of the half um.
Speaker 1: But he did make three or four throws, including on
Speaker 1: third and long. He looked like he was moving better.
Speaker 1: Uh that he looked like Jimmy G kind of from
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen today. So they're gonna need that because
Speaker 1: because they're so banged up. But man, they're they're so
Speaker 1: uh talented even despite all the losses. You're right, I
Speaker 1: mean that the Patriots have no players with juice that
Speaker 1: are just gonna win one on one. Ricky, you are
Speaker 1: still available to us. You're aw Yeah, you're still around.
Speaker 1: Good God. We're gonna check in on you periodically, just
Speaker 1: like what do they call those well being checks? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: you are in your you know, mid to late twenties.
Speaker 1: Lady never tells, so you've never known anything as a
Speaker 1: Patriots fan like this. How are you doing right now? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, as perfectly stated in the best football film
Speaker 1: of our generation by Coach Boon and remember the Titans,
Speaker 1: it would be perfect in every aspect. You drop a pass,
Speaker 1: you run a mile, you miss a blocking assignment, you
Speaker 1: run a mile, you make a fumble, I'll break my
Speaker 1: foot off in your John Brown hind parts, and then
Speaker 1: you will run a mile perfection. Well, you guys, the
Speaker 1: Patriots will be running mile after mile today. What's happening? Okay?
Speaker 1: All right? Think Dan set that up or something. Listen.
Speaker 1: I wanted to give her the floor. Hey, speaking of
Speaker 1: um the demise of the Patriots um dynasty. What did
Speaker 1: Zolac have to say when they pulled Newton out of
Speaker 1: the game. Meanwhile, off the sideline for the Patriots incomes
Speaker 1: number four in the blue jersey. Jarrett stood him quarter
Speaker 1: too late, so no helmet, no ear piece on for
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. How does he know what playtist? Oh? Boy oh?
Speaker 1: A hit piece on camp from Zolac. Well, they's like
Speaker 1: coming very clear though that Patriots fans who have listened
Speaker 1: to this show for um seven eight years are heading
Speaker 1: into complete darkness. If if they're going to be dressed
Speaker 1: up this way every time they stumble, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a long ride for those listeners. How did Zolac get
Speaker 1: from here to here? Quarter too late? So no helmet,
Speaker 1: no ear piece on for Cam Newton. How does he
Speaker 1: know what playtist? I hate to hear it? How does
Speaker 1: he know Cam totally checked out? All right, listen, this
Speaker 1: is all I have. Let's move on. Brady Ball told
Speaker 1: the quarter intel, Scotty Ller, it's got the ball. Touchdops
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Touchdouck Tampa Bay Bucketeers, Scotty Miller. Great throw
Speaker 1: by Brady, Oh, Tom Brady, that guy Tom Brady kicked
Speaker 1: him out the door. Gene Decker off with the call,
Speaker 1: and that was one of the prettiest touchdown passes you'll
Speaker 1: see all year, the Brady to Scotty Miller corner end
Speaker 1: zone pass. Tom Brady threw four touchdown passes, moving moving
Speaker 1: him ahead of Drew Brees for number one on the
Speaker 1: all time t D throw list for the time being.
Speaker 1: As the Bucks battled then pulled away from the Raiders,
Speaker 1: Sizzler Watching Brady today, he looked vintage. He looked like
Speaker 1: a master of his craft. You know, the Bucks might
Speaker 1: be the best team in the league if he's this guy,
Speaker 1: I would agree. I mean, we can argue about the
Speaker 1: most complete team, and I hear you with Tampa Bay, Um,
Speaker 1: i'd give it to Pittsburgh in the a f C.
Speaker 1: But one thing, Um, that we were always waiting for
Speaker 1: with Brady in the Bucks offense was you know, it
Speaker 1: was clear that in the first couple of weeks that
Speaker 1: there were issues. Um, were they going to overcome them
Speaker 1: or where that was? That just who they were? Well,
Speaker 1: they're overcoming them, and you just feel this operation heating up, um,
Speaker 1: And I think you could see it in the eyes
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady. You could see it in the eyes
Speaker 1: of Bruce Arians, who at one point came over and
Speaker 1: just put an arm around his quarterback. I mean, Bruce
Speaker 1: arians is having fun. I think I mentioned last year
Speaker 1: that I thought he seemed like he had a bit
Speaker 1: of a thousand yards stare didn't necessarily want to be
Speaker 1: involved what what with what he was doing. That's not
Speaker 1: the case now. And I mean, this is a game
Speaker 1: where Mike ever bore there were you know what, that's fine,
Speaker 1: it is absolutely I don't I don't really I not
Speaker 1: claiming that that was a home run. Takes a guy
Speaker 1: for Fox for a season or so. He didn't seem
Speaker 1: to be having much fun doing that. He seemed checked
Speaker 1: out for That was a checkout. That was a checkout.
Speaker 1: Maybe I was continuing at off of that, but this
Speaker 1: was a game where Mike Evans was essentially not a
Speaker 1: factor until the game was out of hand. Um, and
Speaker 1: it just didn't matter. And it makes me wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: we've there are the reports out there essentially they're they're
Speaker 1: they're adding Antonio Brown, um and there are a variety
Speaker 1: of responses to that move. But it's like, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: see how you can squeeze Antonio Brown into a into
Speaker 1: an offense where Rob Gronkowski starting to look better and
Speaker 1: better every week. Scottie Miller is becoming exactly what you
Speaker 1: thought he might be. With Tom Brady, Chris Godwin was
Speaker 1: all over the place today. They get just enough from
Speaker 1: their ground game when they need to. Uh, their offensive
Speaker 1: line is playing well. Tom Brady is throwing the ball
Speaker 1: as well as he has in years. Uh, he's totally
Speaker 1: in a game like today when he was totally dialed in.
Speaker 1: I actually have to give the Raiders credit for hanging around,
Speaker 1: and they really did hang around in this game. There
Speaker 1: was a backbreaking moment for Derek Carr and it was
Speaker 1: they were at this point down I think it was
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty or so, but car got picked
Speaker 1: by Antoine Winfield Jr. Who is becoming an awesome safety
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and that basically ended it because that
Speaker 1: set up a quick short drive for the Bucks in
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones Um to pop him in for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That was two touchdowns and forty two seconds. The Raiders
Speaker 1: were broken at that point. And I watched this Bucks team,
Speaker 1: guys like Devin White on defense who had three sacks,
Speaker 1: who had a play where he uh saw a a
Speaker 1: a ball handler like seventeen yards away and just single
Speaker 1: handedly sprinted at him and knocked him down. I mean
Speaker 1: he blew up Derek Carr in a play where I
Speaker 1: thought Derek Carr got hurt. Uh. It was one of
Speaker 1: the better games in the second half by Devin White
Speaker 1: that I've seen a defender player the year. It was
Speaker 1: very impressive. So they are extremely complete. Uh, there aren't
Speaker 1: There's not an overt weakness. And you just have to
Speaker 1: look at the offense. Um. And I know that I
Speaker 1: you know, was I got for the way I phrased
Speaker 1: as saying that they would score forty points on on
Speaker 1: the leg. But I would just say that that you
Speaker 1: see it now they can do it. Um, they are
Speaker 1: that attack in everywhere. Well, they haven't had they haven't
Speaker 1: been totally healthy. Now getting Godwin back his key to me, he's,
Speaker 1: you know, the second most valuable player on that on
Speaker 1: that offense. And they're different. And now they add Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: I don't think they knew they need Antonio Brown. You know,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, listening to Bruce arians have to
Speaker 1: answer the question that that well, if if Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: did what he's accused of doing, which you know to
Speaker 1: be clear as sexual assault and rape, Um, then then
Speaker 1: the legal system will take care of that and he
Speaker 1: won't be on the team. And I just I don't
Speaker 1: like him being added to this mix right now in
Speaker 1: arians answering questions like that after this game, because I
Speaker 1: think it's unnecessary. I I lad uh my my debrief
Speaker 1: column last week with the Bucks saying like this team
Speaker 1: can win the Super Bowl. I mean, I think that
Speaker 1: was I think that's an obvious take. I think they're
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. I I'm not. I
Speaker 1: didn't need to see much more out of Brady. With
Speaker 1: a good offensive line and the high quality of throws
Speaker 1: he's been making, like he just needs to be a
Speaker 1: top ten to twelve type of quarterback, they could be
Speaker 1: even better than that even as an offense. I think
Speaker 1: if if they do their best, but with this kind
Speaker 1: of line and with this kind of defense, and and
Speaker 1: with this kind of depth of playmakers, to me, they
Speaker 1: are they are the They are the team. If I
Speaker 1: had to pick one out of the NFC, they would
Speaker 1: be my team. Yeah. And you saw what they did
Speaker 1: in the final three quarters against the Packers last week
Speaker 1: when they put it all together and just blew out
Speaker 1: a very good Green Bay team and this game to me.
Speaker 1: And I know he hasn't been this isn't this isn't
Speaker 1: two thousand seven Tom Brady or anything, and he's not
Speaker 1: gonna throw fifty touchdowns, but the way he played today
Speaker 1: was just to me. And I'll again mentioned the Scotty
Speaker 1: Miller touchdown past. I mean just the way he's moving
Speaker 1: the pocket, the confidence he's playing there, to the accuracy
Speaker 1: that he's throwing the ball with the zip that he's
Speaker 1: throwing the ball with um, he's playing unbelievable. And you know,
Speaker 1: with the Antonio Brown situation, there's the component of it
Speaker 1: with the off the field issues and the criminal behavior,
Speaker 1: alleged criminal behavior, which is messy, and that's that's a
Speaker 1: separate conversation. But I think in terms of team building,
Speaker 1: it's it's a no brainer. Uh, In terms of building
Speaker 1: your roster out. I know they have three really good
Speaker 1: wide receivers and Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Scottie Miller, but
Speaker 1: Miller has been banged up, Godwin's misstime, Evans hasn't been healthy.
Speaker 1: You never know how this sport works. It's a war
Speaker 1: of attrition. So if you get Antonio Brown in the
Speaker 1: mix and he is on the field and making plays
Speaker 1: he's going to, I think make this offense better. I
Speaker 1: understand why they did it from a team building standpoint,
Speaker 1: but it's obviously fair to get on them for uh
Speaker 1: some of the moral implications of bringing out a player
Speaker 1: like Brown. I would also note that arians after the
Speaker 1: game was said that the decision to bring on Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: He said, Tom had nothing to do with this. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy a word of that
Speaker 1: now two years like he even said he like admits
Speaker 1: how much he lies to the media. He says, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a good thing. I don't know. He's not
Speaker 1: getting paid much Antonio Brown. He's getting paid the minimum
Speaker 1: with a little bit of incentives. So they like the
Speaker 1: Patriots a year ago, there's very little risk in terms
Speaker 1: of finances, and you could cut them as quickly as
Speaker 1: you wanted to if if you if you felt like it.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling I mean, we we're talking a lot,
Speaker 1: and I want to see them do it against a
Speaker 1: good defense. I mean, you said, we're not that surprised
Speaker 1: about the Patriots. Well, when they put thirty six on
Speaker 1: the Raiders, we thought their offense might be pretty good.
Speaker 1: This year, everyone puts thirty everyone's falling apart. My point
Speaker 1: is everyone puts points on the Raiders. Um. So that's
Speaker 1: that's a huge part of the today's equation. It's not
Speaker 1: taking anything away. It's just saying that I like this
Speaker 1: Raiders team, but their defense is maybe the worst in
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's certainly one of the three or four
Speaker 1: four worst. And that's why it was so crazy for
Speaker 1: Erica to uh go in a lock off against me
Speaker 1: and Tom. How do you go against Tom Brady right now? Erica?
Speaker 1: I mean, you come at the king best, not miss Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a long, a long game. Did
Speaker 1: you guys see my storybook? Um for Gruden and and
Speaker 1: that whole thing, And I just I went with it
Speaker 1: and I lost really hard one. And what is right
Speaker 1: now with the one win being anti Jets, Dan, I
Speaker 1: think you're muted. You were frozen there for a second.
Speaker 1: Are you back? Tough? Sitch there? Ricky? I did one thing.
Speaker 1: I want to get on and just I want just
Speaker 1: check in her welfare at check she's okay, good. I
Speaker 1: just wanted before we move on, get on the Raiders
Speaker 1: and um John Gruden hated, hated, hated, fourth and one
Speaker 1: at the Tampa Bay seventeen yard line, three to play
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, they kick a field goal to
Speaker 1: cut it. All year to cut it, I mean a
Speaker 1: year to cut it. It was seventeen game. They were
Speaker 1: down a touchdown to cut it. As if this was
Speaker 1: a team that was going to get multiple stops on
Speaker 1: a locked in Tom Brady with his supporting cast, this
Speaker 1: would happened. After that, Kansas City got the ball back
Speaker 1: eleven Place sixty seven yards touchdown. Next drive for the Raiders,
Speaker 1: interception on the first play, following drive for Kansas City
Speaker 1: to Place twenty four yards touchdown, followed by a four
Speaker 1: and out by the Raiders filed followed by six Place
Speaker 1: thirty two yards touchdown. It went from congratulations on your
Speaker 1: field goal, Well they, I will say, they were hanging
Speaker 1: in there and trying to, you know, not completely go hey,
Speaker 1: we're off. And then they scored two touchdowns in two seconds.
Speaker 1: So that was all packed into a crumbling a huge
Speaker 1: melt play to win the game. Let's move on, Sorry,
Speaker 1: sepred It's dann Sorrenson. Sorenson, here's true. Lock throws a
Speaker 1: fifty yard pick six, dirty dance Arenson. How about that?
Speaker 1: The Chiefs got a two yard kickoff return for a
Speaker 1: touchdown by Byron Pringle, another name I Love, a hard
Speaker 1: charging TV run by Clyde Edwards, Hilaire A Mahomes, the
Speaker 1: Tyreeke t d connection, and yes dirty Dance. Sorenson with
Speaker 1: the pick six and Drew Lock added up to a
Speaker 1: fortin over the Broncos at a frigid and snowy mile
Speaker 1: high mark. You know, this is a game again. This
Speaker 1: is one of the coldest days in the history of
Speaker 1: Broncos football, which you would never think would happen this
Speaker 1: time of year, but it was, so that's gonna affect
Speaker 1: the passing game for the second straight week. Kansas City
Speaker 1: weather elements played a part, I think in how they
Speaker 1: were able to attack the opponent, but they were hitting
Speaker 1: Denver from so many angles that it turned into a
Speaker 1: blowout even with a single Mahome is touchdown. Well, and
Speaker 1: if you're gonna, if you're gonna try to challenge Kansas City,
Speaker 1: who is not a team that can't operate in cold weather.
Speaker 1: I mean it was beautiful to look at the snow.
Speaker 1: The Broncos were hideous to look at. And you know,
Speaker 1: this is a game for those you measuring Drew Lock
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I know a couple of close,
Speaker 1: die hard Broncos fans that came away from this one
Speaker 1: just very concerned about what they have under center. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have two killer fumbles from Melvin Gordon, uh, two
Speaker 1: interceptions from Lock and they never really got untracked. And
Speaker 1: and you know, you we saw our first taste of
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell for the Chiefs. I thought he looked
Speaker 1: it looked pretty good. They didn't use him a ton,
Speaker 1: but it's just another we're talking about Antonio Brown. It's
Speaker 1: another piece to add and you can question why they're
Speaker 1: doing it, but to me, it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: load up, load up, down the stretch and uh, there
Speaker 1: was no This game was just not a competition. And
Speaker 1: I think that the Broncos, for all their parts, um
Speaker 1: parts are great, but you need you need like the
Speaker 1: quarterback play to equal it. And it just didn't happen
Speaker 1: today at all. Well reminds me a little when the
Speaker 1: forty Niners suddenly had all their players back and then
Speaker 1: they got blown out that first game with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I mean, and the Broncos obviously aren't at the stage
Speaker 1: of development at the fort You still gotta start playing
Speaker 1: together a little bit um and uh, the offense you
Speaker 1: would expect to do more. I'll take the l on
Speaker 1: this that I thought. I thought the Broncos were gonna
Speaker 1: be in this game. But you have a first half
Speaker 1: where it's a pick six and a kick return against
Speaker 1: it Saint the Chiefs. Forget about it. I mean that
Speaker 1: that's it. It's over. I mean they the Chiefs were
Speaker 1: held till like five and a half yards to play.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a they didn't have a third down
Speaker 1: in the game, they didn't convert a third down in
Speaker 1: the game, and they put up forty three points like
Speaker 1: they had under three yards in this game the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: So I think the Broncos defense was up for a challenge,
Speaker 1: but it's if you're giving away points on special teams, uh,
Speaker 1: in your offense, eventually the defense is gonna cave it.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the better defenses around, but
Speaker 1: it's just you can't be put with you can't have
Speaker 1: that weight put on you dealing with the Chiefs. It
Speaker 1: was terrible performance by the Broncos. I still have an
Speaker 1: open mind with Drew Lock, but now eight starts in
Speaker 1: and I just don't see anything special there. He's gonna
Speaker 1: need to improve his play. Um, he wasn't good enough
Speaker 1: in this game. Just But at the same time, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna give the homes a past for not lighting
Speaker 1: it up in in these elements, and let me just
Speaker 1: give you a little hardcore information on this kickoff temperature
Speaker 1: of fourteen degrees tied for the fifth coldest game in
Speaker 1: Broncos history, the third coldest home game in franchise history,
Speaker 1: and the coldest pre Halloween home game in franchise history.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a like a Jake Jillen Hall natural
Speaker 1: disaster film taking part. Let's hear it for climate change.
Speaker 1: Way to go. It's racking up the scores this year. Uh.
Speaker 1: Levon Bell did look pretty good. He had to sixteen
Speaker 1: yard runs. Uh in limited work he ran six times
Speaker 1: for thirty nine yards. He had one run of sixteen
Speaker 1: yards in two d and six the four carries with
Speaker 1: the Jets. So I think he tweeted after the game,
Speaker 1: man that felt so good. Uh. So he's happy to
Speaker 1: be on a winner. You know. It goes to show
Speaker 1: you if you complain enough, you could get into a
Speaker 1: better situation than the modern NFL. Good for him, Um,
Speaker 1: but Yeah, total effort for the Chiefs here and the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Running out of time to write this thing. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to Rogers looks rainbows right side, He's got his
Speaker 1: Bandavante Adams to the ten of the five, right side
Speaker 1: to the end zone, cutting it back, touts down Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Wayne Larravy with a call. W T MJ
Speaker 1: with the call. Aaron Rodgers look vulnerable last week against
Speaker 1: the Bucks, who was back to m v P form
Speaker 1: against the Texans, throwing four touchdown passes too to an
Speaker 1: uncoverable Davante Adams in Houston for the Packers, Mark Uh,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers looked like Aaron Rodgers again. Yes, and this
Speaker 1: is a game that I was supposed to cover, but
Speaker 1: I did catchum many elements of this and for me,
Speaker 1: because of coming off of last week, it was one
Speaker 1: of those games where heat check on the Packers are
Speaker 1: are We had entered in into a place where they're
Speaker 1: a myth. They aren't what we thought the first four weeks. Well,
Speaker 1: I think they are what we what we thought they
Speaker 1: were because they were and they were dialed in from
Speaker 1: the beginning with literally no with no, with no reservations.
Speaker 1: I mean in the first half two fifty yards nine
Speaker 1: point four yards per attempt, and you know you're playing
Speaker 1: a Texans team that's been frisky. But the Texans opened
Speaker 1: with basically three points a miss field goal, and then
Speaker 1: they went to half where the the Packers like right
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, a fifty five yard drive
Speaker 1: and eighty eight yard drive, both of those taking up
Speaker 1: ten and nine plays, eating up the clock. They score
Speaker 1: a third touchdown before the half game over, and then
Speaker 1: you know their defense has not been special, but that's enough,
Speaker 1: that's enough to get it done. And so I look,
Speaker 1: I think it's I think what happened last week was
Speaker 1: we just talked about the Bucks you were dealing with.
Speaker 1: It's one of the two or three super legit defenses,
Speaker 1: and that's your concern. Can they operate? Can the Packers
Speaker 1: get to a higher level against that kind of a defense, Well,
Speaker 1: they'll probably see them again mm hmm. Like this is
Speaker 1: a spot where you know, you the Texans are one
Speaker 1: of the few teams that travel their cornerback, you know,
Speaker 1: Bradley Roby with the opposing number one, and then you
Speaker 1: have him matched up against Davante Adams. He has his
Speaker 1: struggles and he gets hurt and uh, it all all
Speaker 1: falls apart from there. I mean, Packers defense is all
Speaker 1: they gotta do. Force three punts in a row to
Speaker 1: start a game. You're gonna win every one of those games.
Speaker 1: It's like you just need the Packers defense to show up.
Speaker 1: And that half is as good a half, you know,
Speaker 1: production wise, as they've had in a long time. The
Speaker 1: Packers defense, they need to start having some building blocks
Speaker 1: as I'm not worried about the Packers offense. They did
Speaker 1: this without Aaron Jones today. I mean they found out
Speaker 1: before the game Aaron Jones is inactive and they still
Speaker 1: they still put up points like that. And Davante Adams
Speaker 1: he's a special player because he he's he's the guy
Speaker 1: in the league that and you know, maybe DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: is another one that when he is gets into his zone,
Speaker 1: he could just put up Madden on easy type numbers.
Speaker 1: He had a career high one yardage, the most yards
Speaker 1: by a Green Bay player since Jordy Nelson went for
Speaker 1: two oh nine back in Week two, and Adams was
Speaker 1: one catch shy of tying the franchise record shared by
Speaker 1: himself in Week one of this year. And Don Hudson
Speaker 1: back in two, so like when him and Rogers are right,
Speaker 1: there is no more devastating tandem in the league. J J.
Speaker 1: Watt uh spoke after the game about where the Texans
Speaker 1: are at. Let's listen to that. About the way Rogers
Speaker 1: played today, and I'm compared to the ways you've seen
Speaker 1: him play earlier and when you guys played against him,
Speaker 1: he played very well. To her, what do you do that?
Speaker 1: What made him play well through the ball to receiver?
Speaker 1: In my cart? I if you could see the look
Speaker 1: on JJ Watt's face, it's why I wanted to man
Speaker 1: he was He had this like gritted teeth look. He
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say anything like he's look he sounded like
Speaker 1: he wanted to jump through the screen and strangle John McClain,
Speaker 1: who was asking that question, probably from Houston, Poor John McLean. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also a team that you know they're There are
Speaker 1: whispers out there that they could be heavy, um, very
Speaker 1: active before the trade deadline. And I think the trade
Speaker 1: deadline is not going to be a deadline this year
Speaker 1: because to get players in with the Corona business, they're
Speaker 1: saying the trades are gonna happen sooner, and guys like
Speaker 1: Will Fuller have been mentioned um this week, this week
Speaker 1: because a week from Tuesday. But yeah, you could see
Speaker 1: in the next forty eight hours. I think we could
Speaker 1: see trades because it's like, if you're gonna let him go,
Speaker 1: move on, I think with what to you know? They're
Speaker 1: one in six as they hit thereby. His brother t
Speaker 1: J has not that this is part of the reason
Speaker 1: it's frustrate, but kind of surpassed him, perhaps as a
Speaker 1: talent in the NFL on an undefeated Steelers team. And
Speaker 1: here's j J wat Um, a proud player, future Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, on the other side of thirty in the
Speaker 1: middle of a mess in Houston. I can imagine it's
Speaker 1: got to be very frustrating from where he kind of
Speaker 1: saw his career arc as on a Super Bowl contender,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he thought. And now to see where they
Speaker 1: are now, tough sitch as they say, as you say, okay,
Speaker 1: as I said, let's move on. Here we go, Let's
Speaker 1: see it the money plays, Let's see what the Lions
Speaker 1: dial up. Two seconds to go. Stafford in the out
Speaker 1: of the gun. He's got it back looks looks talks
Speaker 1: watch steps up, looks talk, J get it. That's tied
Speaker 1: it and then extra point away. I'm winning this game? Wow, Babby,
Speaker 1: how big is that? Big is that? Oh man? That
Speaker 1: might be the call the year from Dan Miller with
Speaker 1: Lomas Brown w j R. Yes, Maddie Stafford uh found
Speaker 1: t J. Hockenson in the end zone with no time
Speaker 1: on the clock, a game tying score that's set up
Speaker 1: a long after a penalty p t by Matt Prader
Speaker 1: from forty eight yards to nail down a win. So
Speaker 1: there you go. The Lions, who lost so many games
Speaker 1: like this win one. And for the Falcons it's the
Speaker 1: same thing over and over. Greg lots to unpack here,
Speaker 1: but I want to start here. Actually with the Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley touchdown that costs the Falcons the game. Yeah you
Speaker 1: heard that right. Everyone knew it was coming. Everyone watching
Speaker 1: that game knew that the Lions had to be thinking
Speaker 1: of allowing the Falcons to score a touchdown. The situation
Speaker 1: was about a one ten to go. They had just
Speaker 1: gotten inside the ten yard line. They could have just
Speaker 1: run the clock out that the Lions were out of
Speaker 1: time out and the only cha they could have for
Speaker 1: you know it would be blocking a young Way coup
Speaker 1: kick from from you know, a couple of yards away,
Speaker 1: or they could have kneeled and then scored a touchdown
Speaker 1: after that, after birning some clock, and you thought, I
Speaker 1: wonder if Matt Patricia is gonna think back to the
Speaker 1: Patriots Super Bowl where they, you know, they let the
Speaker 1: Giants score, whether they do it again. And I think
Speaker 1: the Falcons coaching staff told Todd Gurley, don't score a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So he breaks a tackle right at the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage where they kind of have tried to tackle, and
Speaker 1: then they let him in and he decides about the
Speaker 1: one yard like oh no, oh, no, oh no, tries
Speaker 1: to get down on the ground, tries not to score.
Speaker 1: It was too late. He scored by mistake. It is
Speaker 1: the most Falcons thing ever that you are allowed to score.
Speaker 1: You're you're told not to score, and then you score
Speaker 1: by mistake. And you could still you could have still
Speaker 1: stopped the Lions at that point. But after Gurley scored
Speaker 1: that touchdown, there was no doubt in my mind. I
Speaker 1: don't care that the Lions had no timeouts. There was
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind they were gonna go right
Speaker 1: down the field and score down. And you do have
Speaker 1: to give Stafford and Kenny Golladay, who was a total
Speaker 1: difference maker today, credit for making some great plays in
Speaker 1: that drive, especially Golliday which set up that game winning touchdown.
Speaker 1: But what a dart, What a beautiful dart to Golliday
Speaker 1: to set up the Hawkins and score. Yeah, and in
Speaker 1: in true Falcons fashion, Falcons zooming up the pain rankings
Speaker 1: the fact that when as he loses his balance and
Speaker 1: he goes down to the ground, it's like this like
Speaker 1: fun house mirror reverse scenario of how football works, where
Speaker 1: it's like did the ball cross the plane for the touchdown?
Speaker 1: But that's not what you want, of course, Yes, of
Speaker 1: course with the Falcons, it's gonna go the wrong way
Speaker 1: for them and just another crushing loss. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: in the long term. Honestly, Mark, this is kind of
Speaker 1: good for the Falcons who are playing for two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty one anyway. But at the same time, for a
Speaker 1: team that's had so many stomach punch loss is this
Speaker 1: year to just add another one to the ledger in
Speaker 1: a new and unique way. You just don't need that.
Speaker 1: Well there, I wouldn't trust them to not be in
Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, no matter how that will they
Speaker 1: played for fifty eight minutes. Um, but look at these
Speaker 1: frisky little three and three lions. Oh you're jumping back
Speaker 1: on because they're and you you were sinking them. I mean,
Speaker 1: get on. I built my own vehicle wagon with my
Speaker 1: own vehicle. You know that as as horror horrific this
Speaker 1: matchup was in terms of the uniforms and the stadium lighting,
Speaker 1: which I know Chris Wessling got a lot of tweets
Speaker 1: at him and he was retweeting them, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was an all time bad looking game. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a very evenly played, you know, good football contest.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Julio Jones played well. It was like
Speaker 1: very even, very tense, but to end that way was
Speaker 1: just the most falcons. And they have mentioned that any
Speaker 1: sort of trade rumors around Ryan and Julio Jones, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you get blown away. Are simply wind at
Speaker 1: this point that they're not moving them this season. I
Speaker 1: noticed that. I guess it was whenever their previous home
Speaker 1: game was. And that's a beautiful building, Mercedes ben Stadium.
Speaker 1: We were there for the Super Bowl a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and it was kind of the first of
Speaker 1: its kind. Having the in the round visual scoreboard that's
Speaker 1: now going to be the rage everywhere, and we see
Speaker 1: it in the new Hollywood Park facility here. But there's
Speaker 1: something off about the turf, the coloring of the turf
Speaker 1: and the lighting in the stadium that just kind of
Speaker 1: everything feels muted and a little bit depressing. That feels
Speaker 1: like a fairly easy fix. Thousands of so many things
Speaker 1: they need to fix. That feels like something that could
Speaker 1: be handled pretty quickly, maybe even during a bye week
Speaker 1: or something. Um Mark, I'm picturing you like on like
Speaker 1: a like a donkey or like you know, you're on
Speaker 1: your like borrow and you're you're trying to catch up
Speaker 1: to the sputtering Lions bandwagon. So you could do like
Speaker 1: an Indiana Jones, do the whip and pull yourself on it.
Speaker 1: You're strugg going to catch up with the borrow. You
Speaker 1: can you can do it. Maybe, I mean you're putting
Speaker 1: me on a on a farm animal. I'm not. I've built,
Speaker 1: I said I built and enjoy. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be an animal this. If this game doesn't convince you,
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna, you know, roar to the playoffs. So
Speaker 1: what will I just said they're frisky, and they are
Speaker 1: they're suddenly suddenly, they're back in the conversation. Sitting at
Speaker 1: five hundred. A lot of season left, Greg and Dan
Speaker 1: moving on. Here's the snap on second and two and
Speaker 1: this passes. This really interestinger ship that Jerry Hughes has
Speaker 1: the ball and he has goes down. He gets a
Speaker 1: late hit, but Jerry Hughes comes up with the pick somehow.
Speaker 1: What a call. Listen, the Bills had six field goals
Speaker 1: for their scoring, not a lot to choose from in
Speaker 1: this one. Yes, the Bills losing streak is over because
Speaker 1: their defense finally took a game over Buffalo's. The health
Speaker 1: Sam Donald in the Jets the four total yards on
Speaker 1: sixteen plays from scrimmage in the second half, allowing the
Speaker 1: Bill's offense to dig out of an early double double
Speaker 1: digit deficit and an eventual eighteen to ten win. Donald
Speaker 1: was sacked five times and through two picks, including the
Speaker 1: game stealer, a deflection u corralled by Jerry Hughes late
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Um. Jerry Hughes was awesome in
Speaker 1: this game. He played like a man possessed. Um had
Speaker 1: two sacks tackles for loss. The interception, just around the
Speaker 1: ball all game in a strange game, because we talked
Speaker 1: about it on the preview show that this was an
Speaker 1: obvious get right game for the Bills. Uh, you kind
Speaker 1: of imagine this could have been a thirty four to seven,
Speaker 1: you know, forty two to six type game, and they
Speaker 1: get right. Well, that wasn't the way things started out.
Speaker 1: They fall down ten nothing in the second quarter. Uh,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has a fumble uh and deep and Jets
Speaker 1: territory that he loses. Um. He is showing some accuracy
Speaker 1: issues again and you're you're wondering what's going on here.
Speaker 1: But they are able to get back in the game
Speaker 1: because the Jets offense with Donald uh struggling in the
Speaker 1: first game for dal Loggins who took over play calling
Speaker 1: duties from Adam Gates, which I guess is just gaze
Speaker 1: and total desperation mode mode at this point, just trying
Speaker 1: to do anything to spark matters. But it didn't work
Speaker 1: and uh, Josh all couldn't get Buffalo into the end zone. Um.
Speaker 1: But they also didn't punt as far as I can recall, Uh,
Speaker 1: they settled for eight field goal attempts, hitting six of them,
Speaker 1: and that accounted for all the scoring. So not you
Speaker 1: guys did not miss a golden game here, but the
Speaker 1: Bills will take it and they get back on the
Speaker 1: winning side of things, and they're five and two. How
Speaker 1: are you, uh on Donald's return because you know, early
Speaker 1: get you know, he made some big throws which I saw,
Speaker 1: and then you look at it and in the second half,
Speaker 1: the Jets at four yards. I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: ever seen that four yards as a team and on
Speaker 1: sixteen places, you know, there's just basically a three and
Speaker 1: out machine, and you know the way, and I tweeted
Speaker 1: about it this week. So like, if you're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what do you want out of this Jet season,
Speaker 1: at this point, it's like, alright, ten games, let's see
Speaker 1: what Sam Donald has. Because you're kind of like as
Speaker 1: Mark alluded to on our preview show, and a bit
Speaker 1: of a catch twenty two situation where like you don't
Speaker 1: want to give up on Sam Donald because you have
Speaker 1: a lot invested in him and you you've seen the flashes,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like he needs to improve
Speaker 1: and really make it a tough decision for the Jets
Speaker 1: if they do indeed end up having uh, perhaps the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, and this game, to me was
Speaker 1: like a huge red flag because the Bill's defense hasn't
Speaker 1: been any good this year and the Jets didn't have
Speaker 1: Jameson Crowder, which is a huge loss for that offense
Speaker 1: because he basically is the offense for most of the season.
Speaker 1: But they did have Perriman back, and they got Denzel
Speaker 1: Mims back, and early on they were they did have
Speaker 1: a bit of a connection. But the fact that you
Speaker 1: face planted in the second half, you're You're just gonna
Speaker 1: make the decision easier for the Jets if you have
Speaker 1: a couple more of these performances. So yeah, I was
Speaker 1: disappointed by his play. I mean, I guess if you're
Speaker 1: you can't you can't kill Jets fans if a couple
Speaker 1: of months from now, if this season plays out as
Speaker 1: it has um to switch loyalties because a Jets fans
Speaker 1: job has been an awful job. But you're not sitting
Speaker 1: there just to not enjoy life. Um, so a ton
Speaker 1: of changes coming. I did see DJ in terms of quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: not in terms of teams, because I wouldn't blame him
Speaker 1: for tweet switching teams. I mean, life's too short. Well,
Speaker 1: that's well, I don't think that. I don't know too
Speaker 1: many Jets fans that would do that or any To
Speaker 1: be honest, they're very loyal, man. I wouldn't blame them.
Speaker 1: But I saw Daniel Jeremiah. Jeremiah tweet that their Jets
Speaker 1: rookie class um. He was gushing about how promising it was.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's because Mims came in and made some plays.
Speaker 1: Mims got out of the game healthy, made some catches
Speaker 1: and that's you know, you get excited about that. And
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton came back in and he looks like a
Speaker 1: potential all Pro level left tackle, which is a huge hit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean DJ was happy to see a
Speaker 1: positive tweet about the Jets once because you don't see
Speaker 1: many of them. But yeah, Donald is up to about
Speaker 1: thirty starts now, and you can't just continue to hope
Speaker 1: that he's going to kind of pull it together at
Speaker 1: a certain point, especially why it did cross my mind
Speaker 1: during this very ugly second half. You know, Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: lightening up the Browns, and he's been lightening up teams
Speaker 1: all year, justin Herbert, what he's been able to do. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what that's what you expect at some point,
Speaker 1: and you just haven't. You haven't seen it from Donald
Speaker 1: And even though he's been in a horrible situation, you
Speaker 1: gotta have results at some point. So that's where I'm
Speaker 1: at on I'm starting to kind of mentally begin my
Speaker 1: break from Sam Donald and and mentally preparing for the
Speaker 1: idea of hitting the reboot. Well, it's competitive, although the Jets,
Speaker 1: you know, look as bad as you know any team.
Speaker 1: Certainly there are only there. I counted their seven teams
Speaker 1: with one winner. Less, there's a lot of bad teams
Speaker 1: this year. The battle. Uh, there's a lot of three
Speaker 1: gaul You could your seven teams right now where it's
Speaker 1: week seven right now, and there's seven teams with one winner.
Speaker 1: Take a look at the jets upcoming schedule and tell
Speaker 1: me where you see the three games. You're lucky because
Speaker 1: their schedules brutal ba game as they got. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on another team in the tank for Trevor Sweepstakes.
Speaker 1: Steps back now, throw it deep down the left sideline.
Speaker 1: That's Terry mcclord. Wide open pitch catch, touchdown, touchdown, Washington.
Speaker 1: You are not gonna double cast that one. Bram Weinstein
Speaker 1: and Julie Donaldson w t M. Good to hear the
Speaker 1: female perspective in the calls, and you don't get much
Speaker 1: of that might be the only one, right scary. Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin and Kyle Allen hooked up on a fifty two
Speaker 1: yard touchdown and the Washington football team coasted to win
Speaker 1: over the moribund Dallas Cowboys. I mean, a team that
Speaker 1: could be headed towards major changes in the near future. Greg,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys really are this bad? They are. UM, it
Speaker 1: was unfortunate to see Andy Dalton go out with UM
Speaker 1: a concussion after a dirty hit UM by John Bostic.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was intentional, but it was
Speaker 1: a late hit on a slide and he'll he got
Speaker 1: kicked out of the game and he'll probably be suspended.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that should um distract from how
Speaker 1: thorough a total beat down the game already was before that.
Speaker 1: I think you could have had Andy Dalton out there
Speaker 1: for twelve drives and I don't think they were going
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown with him or UM. Who was
Speaker 1: who was their quarterback? Ben Denucci? Like just I don't
Speaker 1: even I don't even want to, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to professional and look, he actually made one one good
Speaker 1: throw and in his limited time, but wow, they were
Speaker 1: overmatched on both sides of the boss, just totally overmatched.
Speaker 1: Forget Washington being in the in the mix for Trevor.
Speaker 1: Their their defense is too good. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: win too many games, and their offense is better with
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen. I do think it was a smart move
Speaker 1: to go to Kyle Allen. I kind of I thought
Speaker 1: so at the time too, And I think he's not great,
Speaker 1: but they're better. I mean, we liked Kyle Allen for
Speaker 1: games last year and then you know, the floor fell out.
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson yards on the ground. I think you're right, Greig.
Speaker 1: They're they're a little too frisky. They're a little too
Speaker 1: talented on defense to be in that race. This is
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to me um this season. Mike McCarthy answering
Speaker 1: questions after the game about the Dalton hit from Bostick
Speaker 1: and acknowledging that one of the things that threw him
Speaker 1: that he found concerning Let's hear it, we speak all
Speaker 1: the time about playing for one another, you know, protecting
Speaker 1: one another. M So definitely was probably not the response
Speaker 1: that would yeah, that you know, when your quarterback goes down,
Speaker 1: you want everyone around him and and and that was
Speaker 1: done with Dak Prescott obviously, but people get after Boston,
Speaker 1: but I mean that's what he's saying. It's it's rally
Speaker 1: around your quarterback and show show Washington that you're not
Speaker 1: taking that and instead, um, this lifeless roster which has
Speaker 1: had a complete disconnect a with the coaching staff and
Speaker 1: be with anyone observing the Dallas Cowboys this season did nothing.
Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to me about the A
Speaker 1: lot of the criticism you started to hear about the
Speaker 1: player coach relationships and everything going on weeks ago that
Speaker 1: had you concerned, but you saw the talent and now
Speaker 1: it's just like, talent is fine. Every team has talent um,
Speaker 1: they're not playing up in any level to where they are.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how you come out of this
Speaker 1: season if you're Jerry Jones and things stay a pace
Speaker 1: um with a vote of confidence and Mike McCarthy it's
Speaker 1: one and done and you know what the rest of
Speaker 1: the thing moves on with. And I mean, this is
Speaker 1: as bad of a coaching job as I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I think that is well within the range of outcomes
Speaker 1: if this continues, and especially who knows what Dalton I mean,
Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with a concussion, was a nasty head.
Speaker 1: You know, these guys can come back five days later
Speaker 1: from concussions, it's just the way the sport is, or sometimes,
Speaker 1: depending on the severity, could disappear for the rest of
Speaker 1: the year. So we don't need to know his status
Speaker 1: right now. But the fact that he has come out
Speaker 1: and looks so helpless, uh, puts this team into a
Speaker 1: really dark place now where uh if he can't play.
Speaker 1: And Benny Denucci, who we you know, we like his name,
Speaker 1: but he's a seventh round pick. Uh, so you're not
Speaker 1: expecting a lot for him. This thing could really create her.
Speaker 1: And again you have a aging results wants results now
Speaker 1: level owner. And I would even put a sandwich wager
Speaker 1: out there that this this could end up with McCarthy
Speaker 1: being sent out of town. And I don't think I
Speaker 1: take you on it. Because you want to do it,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I just just I's not a crazy
Speaker 1: sandwich to put up there. I think there's cases for
Speaker 1: both sides. I don't know if Jerry Jones gonna want
Speaker 1: to admit he's wrong that quickly. It's gonna be slow
Speaker 1: water torture though for this season, because because of how
Speaker 1: bad the NFC East is, they're gonna have to like
Speaker 1: not give up. Like it's like the games are gonna
Speaker 1: keep mattering as they keep playing this bad and and
Speaker 1: I thought like, when I, you know, heard about the
Speaker 1: you know Dalton not you know getting near him, I
Speaker 1: thought about, like, well, how many of these guys know
Speaker 1: each other that well, it's like an offensive line of
Speaker 1: just total replacements. I'm not saying that justifies it. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell you these aren't even the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It was only one starter left, um from the offensive
Speaker 1: line as before, Andy Dalton's not there. I just want
Speaker 1: to throw this out before he goes. By the way,
Speaker 1: I think Scott Turners doing a good job as their
Speaker 1: coordinator considering how little talent there is, and that I
Speaker 1: think it again shows um how poor like Dallas is
Speaker 1: coaching the The Washington football team had a hundred, two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two yards at halftime. Washington, they had
Speaker 1: their season high and running for the year at halftime
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty five yards against this Cowboys d
Speaker 1: and their health. They're pretty healthy on the Cowboy, so
Speaker 1: you know, let's not forget about that Cowboys. The wow.
Speaker 1: I don't think I should have locked up the Cowboys
Speaker 1: this week. Hey, Eric, are you there? Did we lose
Speaker 1: her again? I think I think this is this is
Speaker 1: a periodic welfare check if you're just joined. Eddie Spaghetti
Speaker 1: is here now he came. He's a hunk of bees. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Eddie was just outside checking the perimeter. I like it.
Speaker 1: Eddie brought in. I got Staten Island in the house,
Speaker 1: full investigator on the case. I'm glad that Eddie's in
Speaker 1: the building because that's a guy that I would trust.
Speaker 1: Nothing else in that apartment A right good. I just
Speaker 1: also want to make sure you're not like wandering around
Speaker 1: the city handing drifters, stunned guns and lead pipes, and
Speaker 1: after what we saw earlier with the butcher knife being
Speaker 1: handed to the stranger here. Yeah, no, I'm I'm very
Speaker 1: very properly scared. So Eddie and there's nothing in the apartment.
Speaker 1: He sounds like he maybe just moved in and he
Speaker 1: ordered a pizza because has he's he has no groceries,
Speaker 1: and so he maybe it's legit and he's a very
Speaker 1: nice person that needed a night for you. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get shook over there. That's you know, Eddie's a nice
Speaker 1: piece of meat over there for protection. But let's welcome
Speaker 1: and Nick shook Erica in a little bit of danger. Potentially.
Speaker 1: We're keeping an eye on it, Nick, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: send you over if we feel it to be necessary. OK.
Speaker 1: I don't go to the gym five days week for
Speaker 1: no reason. What a piece of meat himself? All right?
Speaker 1: Shook is with us? Uh to continue with the highlights,
Speaker 1: And here's a shootout of fun game down at the
Speaker 1: super Dome. Shall we sly will attempt an NFL record
Speaker 1: sixty five yard field goal? It kicks away. It is
Speaker 1: getting dangerously close and just short. Mm hmmm mmmmmmmmm. Zack
Speaker 1: Street with the all for w w L sixty five
Speaker 1: yards dead red down the middle but fell about two
Speaker 1: yards short of the crossbark. Was that close to NFL history,
Speaker 1: But it didn't work out for the Panthers and Joey
Speaker 1: Sly and that rule with BA to the Saints. Drew
Speaker 1: Brees completed past the eight different pass catchers through for two, eight,
Speaker 1: seven and two touch INDs and added another score in
Speaker 1: the ground. That's three straight wins for the Saints. Shook.
Speaker 1: Let's give New Orleans some credit here. They are shorthanded
Speaker 1: on offense and they're still getting it done. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and yet Drew Brees really spread the ball
Speaker 1: around really well. Yeah. Yeah. Deonte Harris had his first
Speaker 1: career touchdown catch today. He went to a number of
Speaker 1: different other different receivers album camera doing it again, of course,
Speaker 1: over a hundred all purpose yards for the seventh straight game,
Speaker 1: which is the longest active streak in the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the offense even without the guys
Speaker 1: that we knew. You know that the names aren't there,
Speaker 1: but this is still the offense that we expected from
Speaker 1: the Saints. And yeah, the only one by three points,
Speaker 1: but it was it was enough of a back and
Speaker 1: forth the fair where when you stepped away from it afterward,
Speaker 1: you're like, that was a quality win. I mean, the Panthers,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not a team that we expected much from,
Speaker 1: but they're pretty competitive and it was a competitive game today.
Speaker 1: So it still is a good win for the Saints. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also a game you look at, you know, the
Speaker 1: yardage and the game's close, but the yardagees and the
Speaker 1: Saints moved the ball a lot better um, and that
Speaker 1: goes to I think the Panthers overachieving. But the Saints
Speaker 1: are pretty deep, even though they're injured, and we get
Speaker 1: to Michael Thomas because I do, I do want to
Speaker 1: talk about Michael Thomas, but they're pretty injured in various parts,
Speaker 1: but their lines are are getting healthy, and like they're
Speaker 1: deep along those lines. And Marcus Davenport, who's back and healthy,
Speaker 1: had a huge sack to back up that Joey slide
Speaker 1: field goal and not to me like that has that's
Speaker 1: a huge moment in that game. Yeah, I mean there
Speaker 1: was only two sacks the entire game, and and that
Speaker 1: was the biggest defensive play I think of the entire game.
Speaker 1: The other one was Brian burns Uh forcing a fumble
Speaker 1: near the end of the first half which let do
Speaker 1: a touchdown and the Panthers, I mean, he took a
Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen leading in the second quarter and looked like, oh,
Speaker 1: they might pull this off. And it was close throughout
Speaker 1: the game, but you're right, the Saints, you know, out
Speaker 1: gained them, and it was really them. It was really
Speaker 1: the Panthers finding way to remain the game late, and
Speaker 1: you know that that sack kind of put him in
Speaker 1: a position where you already knew that was gonna be outcome.
Speaker 1: You're like, are they really gonna do it? Is this
Speaker 1: really gonna happen? But I will say I'll give Joey
Speaker 1: Slye this. If Teddy bridge Water doesn't take that sack,
Speaker 1: that's the tie game and went over because from sixty
Speaker 1: five missed by about two ft. And this is a
Speaker 1: guy that was on the Corona list a few uh
Speaker 1: some things ago. Yeah, that's start of the week. Um, Greg,
Speaker 1: you I think you deserve credit for standing by Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater during this offseason ramp up to the season. He
Speaker 1: they moved the ball and they could put up big plays.
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson and d J. Moore are now the only
Speaker 1: teammate duo in the NFL with five plus receiving yards
Speaker 1: through Week seven. Uh entering Sunday Night Football. Uh they
Speaker 1: this is not a dinkin duck. The average air yards
Speaker 1: per tempt um myth around Teddy Bridgewater has been proven false.
Speaker 1: Uh So listen, they're now three and two in five
Speaker 1: games without Christian McCaffrey. I believe they're playing Thursday night
Speaker 1: and they're expected, uh to potentially get McCaffrey back. He
Speaker 1: has not played since week two, So I mean, you're
Speaker 1: signing up, You're you're signing up for three and four
Speaker 1: probably if you're Matt Rule, even though you're disappointed tonight.
Speaker 1: I got sandwiches on Teddy having more yards than Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: which uh, I would have would have thought it with
Speaker 1: Teddy's in like the top seven right in passing yards,
Speaker 1: he'd be in good shape. But he's he is trailing,
Speaker 1: but he's in that mix. I do think we should
Speaker 1: mention how weird this Michael Thomas thing is. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on here. Dude, he was supposed to
Speaker 1: be back like three or four weeks ago. Dude gets
Speaker 1: in a fight and get suspended before the bye week.
Speaker 1: Everyone thought he was gonna play the week four. Then
Speaker 1: there's like rumblings he returns to practice that he might
Speaker 1: get traded. Then there's Sean Payton going after someone on
Speaker 1: Twitter saying that's a bunch of nonsense. And I have
Speaker 1: found over the years when there's weird things coming out
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, it's for a reason, and usually when
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is going out of his way to deny things. Uh,
Speaker 1: usually it's the Saints that are putting out that story
Speaker 1: in the first place, like something something that you know,
Speaker 1: wide receivers are so tough sometimes because they're so volatiles
Speaker 1: at times personality wise, And it seems to me with
Speaker 1: the smoke that's coming out of there is that this
Speaker 1: guy is causing issues behind the scenes. You don't find
Speaker 1: the latest hamstring hamstring tweak, then I don't know, he
Speaker 1: could be banged up, but I Mike Florio reported um
Speaker 1: on NBC tonight what you were just saying, Greg that
Speaker 1: they kind of potentially were floating Thomas before the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: and now this injury kind of has thrown cold water
Speaker 1: on that. And uh, I mean, this guy set the
Speaker 1: all time catch record last year. This guy had been
Speaker 1: the most productive wide receiver since Antonio Brown. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, another all world talent that's personality and off
Speaker 1: the field issues torpedoed his career until recently. Now, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it is very interesting to see how this plays out.
Speaker 1: And it is weird that the injury stuff wrapped around
Speaker 1: me the punch. I mean, it's they're also still like
Speaker 1: sneaky two months away from probably Drew Brees walking away
Speaker 1: and becoming the notre dame announcer and looking themselves at
Speaker 1: least on offense in a pretty deep rebuild. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was healthy enough to be practicing to get into
Speaker 1: a fight with the car I don't know, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And that was like three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: so that, yeah, yeah, Mark, does that Does that speak
Speaker 1: to you think Michael Thomas couldn't handle the struggles over rebuild?
Speaker 1: Or is it the fact that because like that guy,
Speaker 1: a guy at that age that he was that good
Speaker 1: of a receiver, you would want that to be one
Speaker 1: of your key pieces, and I think he would too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be surprised that they trade him. But
Speaker 1: when you throw in the fact that he's punching teammates,
Speaker 1: and that's the part of the story that we know,
Speaker 1: there might be the experience of Michael Thomas becoming a
Speaker 1: little bit too much for everyone. If there was ever
Speaker 1: a player that were to unfollow his team on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram after an O and two start with a
Speaker 1: new quarterback that's struggling, it is Michael Thomas. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: trying to get ahead of this. The unfollowed. That's a
Speaker 1: good call. All right, let's move on. There was a
Speaker 1: there was a false alarm unfollowing on Twitter and Instagram
Speaker 1: today of Harrison Smith and the Vikings. I want everyone
Speaker 1: to know that it was out there that Harrison Smith
Speaker 1: had unfollowed the Vikings on his social but it then
Speaker 1: was later learned via reporting that he in fact had
Speaker 1: never followed the Vikings in the first place. So everyone
Speaker 1: stand down. Harrison Smith is not on his way out
Speaker 1: of Minnesota. Now we move on. I got to get
Speaker 1: that out there. Greg Coms rose right sideline for guiding,
Speaker 1: caught right sideline Ted Giten to the touchdown Chargers Herbert
Speaker 1: to Giten seventy yards just too much speed, Matt Money
Speaker 1: Smith Daniel Jarremiah with a call k Y s R.
Speaker 1: Man Money has got a n DJ have a front
Speaker 1: row seed for something special here justin Herbert is a
Speaker 1: man on fire. The super rookie went off with another
Speaker 1: big passing game, also set a charges rushing record for
Speaker 1: quarterbacks uh four touchdowns, including that game winner at the
Speaker 1: Jalen Guiten win over the Jacks at Hollywood Park. Herbert
Speaker 1: finally gets that elusive first win, but we all know
Speaker 1: he's played well enough to win a bunch of games already. Shook,
Speaker 1: this kid looks like an instant Stars is a huge
Speaker 1: story in the league. You know, I was really startled.
Speaker 1: I mean we followed the league from each week obviously,
Speaker 1: but I was just startled for a moment when I
Speaker 1: was watching the end of the game today and heard
Speaker 1: the broadcast say, and Justin Herbert officially has his first
Speaker 1: career in because you think he's been playing well for
Speaker 1: a month, like that type of performance from a quarterback
Speaker 1: usually leads to victories, and yet the Charges have found
Speaker 1: ways to lose and and have you know, had some
Speaker 1: close calls. So I was like, wow, that really is
Speaker 1: his first career win, but it's it's the first of many.
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, some of the passes that
Speaker 1: he threw today were just absolute times, and he seems
Speaker 1: to be getting better with more experience week by week.
Speaker 1: It's kind of in the mold of Joe Burrow. But
Speaker 1: Burrow looked better from the start I think, or has been.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they started he was here and
Speaker 1: he keeps going up. Um, but they're both improving on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis and it's really exciting to watch, and
Speaker 1: especially for a Chargers team that I mean when when
Speaker 1: we entered this season, we didn't know what they were
Speaker 1: getting out of him. They kind of took Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: because he was the guy after Tua and they had
Speaker 1: Tyrode as the bridge quarterback, and you didn't know when
Speaker 1: Herbert was going to see the field at all. There
Speaker 1: was some thought that he wouldn't see the field at
Speaker 1: all this season, and yet he comes out and he's
Speaker 1: playing like like a stud. So it's really exciting. The
Speaker 1: thing that is interesting to me is like you watch
Speaker 1: his touchdown run, which was I mean his arm set
Speaker 1: up that run because because they didn't know what to
Speaker 1: do with him, and it's like, okay, I mean from
Speaker 1: a team planning angle, they wanted Tyrod Taylor to red
Speaker 1: shirt this season for Herbert because also he's um and
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn favorite because he's a mobile scrambler and in
Speaker 1: fun on the grounds, like sorry, Justin Herbert can do
Speaker 1: basically anything on the ground that Tyrod Taylor today is
Speaker 1: gonna do for you, and he can do a billion
Speaker 1: more things through the air. I just wonder how they
Speaker 1: scouted him beforehand, I mean to the eye. He is
Speaker 1: a complete wonder. Well you gotta pay I don't. You
Speaker 1: can't know until they're in the games. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when when coaches say like we will love we love
Speaker 1: this guy in practice, like that's why Colin Kaepernick is
Speaker 1: replacing Alex Smith, it's like, oh, well, coaches are with
Speaker 1: him all week long. So it's kind of like, could
Speaker 1: bend it anyway you want? I mean, well, you think
Speaker 1: they've they struggled to evaluate just how awkward is it
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jeremiah having to call these games. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's like interviewing with Justin Herbert and he has to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, sorry, bro, I had you ranked twenty
Speaker 1: in my top fifty rankings behind and Drew Thomas struggling
Speaker 1: weekly behind Kenneth Murray and thanks in your world DJ versation. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean Herbert knows. I mean he's analyst. He's a
Speaker 1: great behind Ross Blacklock. I don't even know if he
Speaker 1: went in the first two rounds um graded behind all
Speaker 1: those guys. And here's one of the greatest quarterbacks as
Speaker 1: a rookie we've ever seen a lot of what a
Speaker 1: hit piece by y I can done it, but um,
Speaker 1: anything else on this game shook than the Herbert. Well,
Speaker 1: on the Herbert point, I think the one thing that
Speaker 1: has helped him so far as he's doing a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that he did well at Oregon, including running.
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody remembers that Rose Bowl win that he
Speaker 1: closed his organ career with. I mean, that's a prime
Speaker 1: example of basically what has helped him through the first
Speaker 1: you know, five weeks that he's played football in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think you're right on not figuring
Speaker 1: out where these guys are headed. But at the same
Speaker 1: time they get out there just kind of do with thing. Now.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville wise, there was some rumbling about Gardner Minshew, right, um,
Speaker 1: who is gonna lose his job? He was okay, I
Speaker 1: mean he had a couple of touchdown pass the day,
Speaker 1: hundred seventy three yards. He kept him in the game.
Speaker 1: But then it was the same Gardner Minshew outcome at
Speaker 1: the end fourth and two, he gets the conversion fourth
Speaker 1: and eight, he misses an open DJ Shark by five yards,
Speaker 1: and that was basically the ballgame. So you're ceiling is low. Sure,
Speaker 1: it's exciting from time to time, but these Jaguars, we
Speaker 1: know they're not really going anywhere they're gonna play. How
Speaker 1: is it? How is the head coach today floating that
Speaker 1: story out there to our reporters saying that we're going
Speaker 1: to We're We've made a decision that Mike Lennon will
Speaker 1: give us a better chance when when they're down thirty
Speaker 1: nine and they need, you know, points when he's trying
Speaker 1: to push the ball downfield. You can see the frustration
Speaker 1: on the receivers on the two misses he had there.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's just a limited guy when
Speaker 1: you have to open it up a little bit. But
Speaker 1: they're certainly in the tank for Trevors. So stakes at
Speaker 1: one and six, now off six straight losses. Now Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football, Sunday nine, can you make this one? It
Speaker 1: is in a sixty nine minute at forty five second game.
Speaker 1: It is the only time that Arizonas had to lose
Speaker 1: Al Michael's with the call friend BC Zane Gonzalza tones
Speaker 1: for his error at the end of regulation when he
Speaker 1: shanked a forty one yard or hitting the forty eight
Speaker 1: yarder in ot Arizona Cardinals thirty seven, Seattle Seahawks thirty
Speaker 1: four and a thriller the Cardinals improved to five into
Speaker 1: the Seahawks finally lose their first game of the year.
Speaker 1: They fall to five and one. Uh shook. This one
Speaker 1: was wild. The Seahawks seemed to have it in hand.
Speaker 1: They were up thirty four with less than six minutes
Speaker 1: to play. Uh they are unable to close the game
Speaker 1: out on defense and no surprise there, and then unable
Speaker 1: to take advantage of there are opportunities when Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: was on the field. Yeah, I felt like once the
Speaker 1: scramble to get it to second and short at the
Speaker 1: two minute warning, it was basically, well, you know, they
Speaker 1: get this first down and it's all but over and
Speaker 1: then you know, Arizona gets to stop and suddenly have
Speaker 1: a ball game. But even at that point, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: still have to go down the field. I mean, there
Speaker 1: was there was. It was such an unlikely and I
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the probability metric on for next Gen
Speaker 1: in this game, but I'm worked up. I'm sure it
Speaker 1: just shot down because like this was unlikely. This was
Speaker 1: definitely unlikely. But I mean it speech to the moxy
Speaker 1: and the the ability of of a young guy like
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to be able to leave it, and also
Speaker 1: the Larry Fitzgerald forgetting the ball to the center in
Speaker 1: order for them to snap in times. People love that
Speaker 1: love that unlikely. It was insane. How did they They
Speaker 1: blew the Seahawks blew this game a thousand different ways.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals, you know, tried to um in over time
Speaker 1: a couple of different times too, But there were so
Speaker 1: many parts of this game that was that were absolutely insane.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the inverse of that six six
Speaker 1: Cardinals Seahawks game, which happened when I was in London
Speaker 1: and you guys weren't. I remember it ended up like
Speaker 1: five in the morning and there was a gate all year.
Speaker 1: Was that like the worst game of the year or
Speaker 1: the best game? Like this one tonight. It was sloppy
Speaker 1: as hell, but it was the best game of the year.
Speaker 1: And I go back, um like to that overtime period
Speaker 1: or what set it up rather and the decision from
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and you mentioned uh Nick shook that Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson scrambled to set up a second and short where
Speaker 1: all they need is two yards to to finish off
Speaker 1: the game, and the first run loses yardage and I
Speaker 1: and I was. I remember thinking like, are they going
Speaker 1: to have the guts to throw the ball here? Because
Speaker 1: if they throw the ball here, they're gonna win the game.
Speaker 1: And I don't kill them for running it there. But
Speaker 1: you went run, run, run in that spot, you went backwards.
Speaker 1: In the end. It was like the only time all
Speaker 1: year where they didn't have the guts. And Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: directs one of the craziest uh late minute regulation drives
Speaker 1: I've ever seen fifty four seconds where they had two
Speaker 1: designed runs. They spiked it three different times. Uh. You
Speaker 1: never seen something like that, And it was really like
Speaker 1: courageous and smart. And then Cliff Kingsbury did as much
Speaker 1: as he could in overtime to make us think they're
Speaker 1: not necessarily courageous and smart or in or in regulation,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, had that gone down poorly
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, you've got the talking point that Zene
Speaker 1: Gonzalez kicked the would be uh game winning but would
Speaker 1: be not game winning field goal on second down, which
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing that what you with, especially with
Speaker 1: the kickers, like the last thing they do is all
Speaker 1: we remember and it wipes out all these other storylines. Um.
Speaker 1: But I will say I will footnote this by saying
Speaker 1: that I thought that one of the biggest things that
Speaker 1: that Arizona did in regulation and the overtime period was
Speaker 1: UM getting to Russell Wilson. That Byron murphy sack was huge.
Speaker 1: I mean, coming off a regulation period that saw them,
Speaker 1: you know, combined for nine two yards. The minute this game, UM,
Speaker 1: the minute that the Bucks Raiders was moved out of
Speaker 1: this slot in Arizona seatll got moved in. UM, We've
Speaker 1: been through this enough. A mental note UM rolled through
Speaker 1: my mind that said, you will be up at least
Speaker 1: an extra hour and twenty minutes that you would have
Speaker 1: been up. Um, Cliff Kingsbury there, I'm sure we'll have
Speaker 1: a victory Monday. On Tuesday morning at the team meeting,
Speaker 1: he should have Rolex watches for everyone on the Arizona
Speaker 1: defense for bailing his ass out UH on this game,
Speaker 1: because Yeah, I could not get over it, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe Alan Chris are usually still locked in on things.
Speaker 1: Didn't even make any note of it that he settled
Speaker 1: for the forty one yard field goal second right after
Speaker 1: a five yard loss. It was a reminder that head
Speaker 1: coaches can lose their nerve too in a really big spot,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what happened. Uh, sorry, I think
Speaker 1: that's what happened here. Uh. He they lost five on
Speaker 1: a run and he just said, okay, send Zane out there.
Speaker 1: He lost and you and what you would he really
Speaker 1: failed to realize is that the Seattle defense was guessed.
Speaker 1: Even Kalsworth was making note of it, that these guys
Speaker 1: were done and all you gotta do is run it.
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna damn was gonna break either for a
Speaker 1: game ending touchdown or for another five, ten, fifteen yards. Instead,
Speaker 1: he brings up Gonzalez and he misses the kick. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was really surprised. So a good job by the
Speaker 1: Arizona defense for like Mark said, getting to Wilson in
Speaker 1: overtime and at the end of regulation and in general
Speaker 1: Seattle's offense, which has been so unstoppable. Uh, they end
Speaker 1: the game going punt punt interception. Uh that was not
Speaker 1: expected either, and the interception was crazy, Like they didn't
Speaker 1: really discuss that either. Because Isaiah Simmons, a top ten
Speaker 1: pick who's barely played this year. He played under five
Speaker 1: snaps tonight, and one of those snaps was that interception.
Speaker 1: Because Arizona was so injured by the end, Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: just threw that to no one. There's no receivers anywhere
Speaker 1: remotely here. The pressure was coming and and they had
Speaker 1: blitzed them advanced Joseph, give him, give him some credit
Speaker 1: for coming up with these crazy blitzes. And overtime they
Speaker 1: just cooked him up. Russ was cooked like he lost
Speaker 1: his mind a little bit. I I wrote that I
Speaker 1: don't want to go on too long, but this game
Speaker 1: was so insane. I just like wrote down. I was
Speaker 1: starting to, like, you know, right down like a top
Speaker 1: five plays from this game because this game was so incredible,
Speaker 1: and then it got longer and longer. Here are the
Speaker 1: things that this in no order, but here are things
Speaker 1: that happened in this game. Uh, Kyler Murray being cool
Speaker 1: enough to smile when he sees sees Hopkins one on
Speaker 1: one and then throw a touchdown to him. The three
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throws to lock it, We're all insane. The
Speaker 1: one hander to start the game was one of the
Speaker 1: best catches of the year. The bomb touchdown was ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and the in the touchdown on fourth down to lock
Speaker 1: it was just like that two point conversion in the
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship, that alone was amazing. That Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray scramble touchdown where he just you know, joked them
Speaker 1: out of their shorts was outrageous. The Kyler drive we
Speaker 1: mentioned to force overtime, Kingsbury's brain fire Simmons is uh interception.
Speaker 1: And then almost the biggest thing was I thought the
Speaker 1: Seahawks one on a on a game winning touchdown and
Speaker 1: overtime that was over same game and you didn't even
Speaker 1: mention the Bens in Myowa unsportsmanlike conduct that took the
Speaker 1: field goal off the board and allowed Arizona to get
Speaker 1: the touchdown instead that then set up the game tying
Speaker 1: field goal at the end of regulation. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: Seattle has been dancing with the devil all season, I
Speaker 1: think with their defense, and they've gotten away with it
Speaker 1: a couple of games. It finally came back to haunt
Speaker 1: them too. I think that's something to take out of
Speaker 1: this game as well, that they're gonna remain vulnerable, uh,
Speaker 1: even with a great Russell Wilson, as long as this
Speaker 1: defense cannot make stands. Yeah, you know, you bring the
Speaker 1: Bens and Myowa thing is huge because we could point
Speaker 1: scapeboats out of a bunch of different people here. I
Speaker 1: mean we could we could go to Brian Schotheimer for
Speaker 1: calling not only did they go run, run, run, And
Speaker 1: you're fine with that, Greg, I was fine with that too.
Speaker 1: They called the same play three times. It was a
Speaker 1: stretched round of the right three times. Do you think
Speaker 1: the third time they might actually anticipate a little bit
Speaker 1: and try to shoot the gap, which is exactly what
Speaker 1: they did, stuffing him in the hole. I mean, Carlos
Speaker 1: hides on a guy who necessarily gets stuffed like that.
Speaker 1: They knew that was coming and and so you can
Speaker 1: point him as escapegoat to keep my oas escapegoat if
Speaker 1: you go down the line. But I think the one
Speaker 1: thing that really stands out to me about this entire
Speaker 1: game is centers on Kyler Murray and it centers on
Speaker 1: the fact that he's been doing this like like scrambling
Speaker 1: for the touchdown for example. It's almost a near weekly thing. Now.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that he's I don't know
Speaker 1: if you would say added to his arsenal or whatever,
Speaker 1: but it's something that's helping their offense reach that next level.
Speaker 1: But what we haven't seen him do is do it
Speaker 1: in a position like tonight where he had to go
Speaker 1: down the field where you had to leave a drive
Speaker 1: lead a drive like that, and they had to execute
Speaker 1: on every single play. You found a way too. And
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is really a turning
Speaker 1: point for them, but it's really encouraging because we had
Speaker 1: some high hopes for them. They kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: they hit a lall early in the season. They're coming
Speaker 1: on strong now and and it's it's a lot of fun. Well,
Speaker 1: we called it a doorway game on Thursday, and that's
Speaker 1: my word for it, because nick I thought the same
Speaker 1: thing about Cleveland facing like Pittsburgh, Like you go through
Speaker 1: that doorway, you show that you can get through, then
Speaker 1: we think about you differently. And I think about that.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that they beat Seattle last year,
Speaker 1: but that's last year. I mean this this after after
Speaker 1: you know, a two or three weeks sort of semi
Speaker 1: funk where I wasn't sure what to think about Arizona's offense.
Speaker 1: I come out of this completely different than This game
Speaker 1: also was a study in variance because how different football
Speaker 1: games can be. Like we talked about the Cardinal, the
Speaker 1: Carolina New Orleans game had four teen possessions, seven each.
Speaker 1: That's kind of unusual. This had possessions, I mean, and
Speaker 1: it looked like it's the point where if you were
Speaker 1: one of the lost Soul being asked to write the
Speaker 1: what we learned for this, I would have I would
Speaker 1: have like literally run out of the building at this
Speaker 1: point because I don't do well with those things. And
Speaker 1: there was like seventy five different plot points. Please to
Speaker 1: Grant Gordon, who's writing this, thank you one of the
Speaker 1: great guys on the desk and NFL dot Com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's only a handful of special quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 1: and we got to see two of them tonight. Just
Speaker 1: a wild game. All right. That's Week seven Sunday, Look
Speaker 1: at us, Look at us almost mid season. Now we're
Speaker 1: flying along. Coming up this week on UH the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, we're going to dive deep with the
Speaker 1: trade deadline coming up UH Tuesday show, we'll have our
Speaker 1: preview for a week eight of course, and then the
Speaker 1: NFL Network program, which you should DVR or watch live
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings UH every week, so check that out. Shook
Speaker 1: Thank you as always, and now we're all going including
Speaker 1: show who's it's very late in downtown Cleveland. But he's
Speaker 1: gonna hop on a red eye and we're all gonna
Speaker 1: go straight to Ricky Hollywood's apartment to protect her. So
Speaker 1: we are. We're just getting started tonight, Nicky. We're coming
Speaker 1: for you baby. Yeah. For a little update, Um, the
Speaker 1: person does not live there. Tech text of the Landlord.
Speaker 1: The cops have been here. It's been quite the quite
Speaker 1: the Sunday Night Escapade. We're gonna form a human wall.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm coming out. I'm gonna be in the
Speaker 1: middle or on the edge, and me and Dan will
Speaker 1: be in the edge. Greg and Mark in the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna yell at them, like annoy them
Speaker 1: until our shields will be frozen. Our shields will be frozen.
Speaker 1: Pizzas nice alright, Ricky, stay safe and all seriousness. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, this is Dan Hands is signing off for
Speaker 1: oh we I asked the listeners to come up with
Speaker 1: a nickname for Nick Shook. I'm gonna debut it next
Speaker 1: Sunday Night, so on that one. So Stan Hands is
Speaker 1: signing off four the Unshakable Nick Shook, the Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood in West Hollywood, Stay
Speaker 1: safe until Tuesday. Don't safe, don't spit the stoy S