1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast turned down million for it's 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: exclusive podcast running Us. Welcome to another edition of the 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Heads is 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: coming to you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, What is up? Boys? Flagship show, 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Big Show, Big Week, great early games. But I do 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: want to say before we move on, if anyone's listening 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: that wants to pay us even a fraction of that 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: sort of money, like, come at us with an offer, 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: because that was untrue. What what Matt Rismith said, we 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: might very quickly agree to. Uh, I'm at I'm a 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: far truncated deal. Yes, it's all about leverage. We have 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: zero leverage right now. What we're looking for is leverage. Um, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: ha ha, funny, funny, funny. Yes, Week seven Sunday in 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the books and uh a bit of a wild Sunday. Uh, 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: some surprising outcomes, some blowouts in the late portion of 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: the Sunday schedule. But we are down to two undefeated 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: teams now one winless team unfortunately, a team that I 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: identify with very closely. And um, some interesting football to 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: go over, Greg, what do you think about today's football? 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: I mean, um, when you can assign yourself Washington versus 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Dallas in Detroit, Atlanta early, it's like you've got your 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: finger on the pulse of what's happening in the NFL. 24 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean I did, I did. I made a trade 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: with Chuck Who's gonna come on later. Um, but no, 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: it was a fun day, like when it's like when 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: the Jets gave the Colts seventy seven second round picks 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: for Sam Donald. You know. Sometimes Greg texted me on 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: after our our network show. I'm saying I would really like, Um, 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch the Saints game. I don't 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: know why, I just I just wanted to watch. Well, 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: he went and suggested that he switched with Shook, and 33 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: I said, absolutely, like reach out to Shook and do 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: the legwork. And then he's like, well, now, actually I 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: don't think I want to do that. I'm overthinking it. 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: That we never spoke again, and then he tells me 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: this morning that, you know, the Backwater channels were a 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: buzz as Gregg is trading with Shook games without an 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: I changed my mind again. You know, you guys go 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: like more in detail, you charge these games. Mark kept 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: it going. I had already I edited out. I'm not 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: touching it. Oh no, this is gold Greg. Remember when 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: remember when the the you know, our analytics expert here, 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to even name him because I'm kind 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: of mocking it here now is like, you know, make 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: sure no matter what you do, it's like the first 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: five minutes of the show, don't lose them with some 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: jibber jabber, Like get right into the big stuff. That's 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: when you lose that audience. Mission accomplished. Whenever we have 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: like thirteen games to talk about, if we can just 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: like bury the audience of seven minutes of jibber jabber, 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. Nick Shook is coming later. 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Uh he of the big trade win over Rosenthal. Uh 54 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. But let's get going with Yes, 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: the matchup in Nashville between two undefeated's. It's do or 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: die for the Titans who have one time out in 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: their pocket. Doskowski in this range this year. As he 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: kicks it on its way, the kick is white right, 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: it is all right. Wow, I can't even hardly believe it. 60 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: But a nice Midwestern sound that was Bill Hill Grove 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: tounch Ilkin with a call W D. V e. Hey, listen, 62 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. The Titans 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: badly outplayed the Steelers in the second half on Sunday, 64 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: but a slow start coupled with the latest high profile 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: failure by Stephen Kaskowski, allowed the Steelers to escape with 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: a When Pittsburgh is six and oh for the first 67 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: time since nine and now stand with the Seahawks as 68 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the only remaining undefeated teams in the NFL, um boys, Uh, 69 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: strange game here because it's Steelers win the coin toss. 70 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: They go on a nine minute, eighteen second drive ends 71 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: with Deante Johnson touchdown. Uh, they get a three and out. 72 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh does get the ball back, score another touch on 73 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: it's fourteen. Zip. They're in complete control. It gets by 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter it's seven, and you know, my I 75 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: start wandering. I'm saying, oh, what's going on in the NFL? 76 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: Marx Browns are having some fun with the Bengals, like, 77 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: but then all of a sudden, the Titans start doing 78 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: the Titan thing and they get back into the game, 79 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: and uh, they fall short because Gaskowski can't hit a 80 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: kick that he's got a hit in that spot. So 81 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: that's where we're at the Steelers. To me, um, as 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: good as they looked in the first half, the second 83 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: half was a little bit concerning. But listen, you can't 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: take away what they did in those first two quarters. 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger looked really good in the first have did 86 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: not look very good in the second half. James Conner 87 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: is really doing good things for them. Uh this season. 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: I've really been impressed by him so far this year. 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: And um, the defense was able to make enough stops 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: even if it wasn't their best effort to get the W. 91 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: So the Steelers moved to six. And oh the Titans, 92 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: they're kicking themselves because they had a golden opportunity here, 93 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: uh for a huge comeback and want to come back. 94 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: That would have been down twenty seven seven to the 95 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: mighty Steelers. It didn't happen, and they're they're the reason 96 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: they lost third downs. Titans were unable to stop the 97 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: Steelers on third downs. Pittsburgh thirteen of eighteen third downs 98 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: in the game, and they only had the ball for 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: one minute and twenty one seconds in the first quarter. 100 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: So keeping the offensive field was huge for Pittsburgh. I 101 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: thought they took in the in the first half, Tennessee 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: out of the game, and you know, this is a 103 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: team that's played three games in thirteen days, and it 104 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: showed a little bit. I thought, UM early on here, 105 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: but we've talked about Big Ben's various troubles on on 106 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: deep shots down the field, but what he's doing very 107 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: well is carving defenses up mid range. And I think 108 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: that they just this just strikes me as the most 109 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: complete team, UM in the a f C and maybe 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: in the league, because of what they can do on defense. 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: But also you know, they got one catch from Chase 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Claypool today and so in return, you know, Deonte Johnson 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: steps up. You mentioned James Conner. I thought, you know, 114 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: he's been up and down, but he made big plays 115 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: for them. And Tennessee to come back from a seven 116 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: to seven deficit the way they did, um, I thought 117 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: it was impressive. You know, Gauskowski has been a real 118 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: roller coaster ride, a true adventure, and you got the 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: dip today. UM, the ugly part of that. But to me, 120 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee this doesn't take the shine off of who they 121 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: are and what they want to be. They just had 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: a first half where they played un characteristically. I mean, 123 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I think they had like thirty yards on the ground 124 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: well the last two weeks for Guskoski, So that's something 125 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to think about. I know he 126 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: hit a big kick at the end of the game, 127 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: but he had his struggles last week. I see this 128 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: as as a Steelers defense game, even in the second half. 129 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: The fact that you know, they got the ball on 130 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: a Ben interception and then the Steelers defense shuts down Tennessee. 131 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: That was one of six drives, so to Tennessee. At 132 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: ten drives in this game, on six of them, they 133 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: didn't have a first down. I mean that. I know 134 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: they scored some points on the other drives, but it's 135 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and the Titans are awesome. They only end up with 136 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: fifteen first downs on the day. If you have six 137 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: drives where you go three and out or four and 138 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: out like some of those drives were. I mean, that's 139 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive, and you would expect the Steelers to 140 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: take care of business when they do that. Yeah, I 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: was really excited to um do like a reverse when 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: middle dunk on your Ben Roethlisberger game manager assassination from 143 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Thursday Show, Greg and after the first four two weeks ago, 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't. I'm not painting it as negative as you saying. 145 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's kind of the style they're playing. 146 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: I know, but through four four drives against an undefeated 147 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: Titans team on the road, Pittsburgh had put up twenty 148 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: four points and Ben was seventeen of twenty four for 149 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: one sixty and two touchdowns. Deep shots or are they Johnson? 150 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think short and mid mid reign shots. Yes, 151 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: So that's kind of his his game, which I guess 152 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: is to your point of the big breeze uh moniker 153 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: that you've tagged him with as well. The rest of 154 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: the game after those first four drives, three points fifteen 155 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: and uh three interceptions. The first pick was just you know, 156 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: threw it up for grabs at the end of the 157 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: first half, but the last two were definitely on him. 158 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: Although the third pick, the one that's set up the 159 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Titans to nearly tie the game, was Juju Smith Schuster 160 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: in coverage against the linebacker, you know, running around against 161 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: the linebacker, couldn't get any separation. I don't know what's 162 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: going on with Juju. Is he just not a guy 163 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: that separates? I don't know, but Ben put it in 164 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: a really good spot um, but Juju, the coverage was 165 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: so tight that he couldn't like hold onto the ball 166 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: and it got knocked out of his hand ends and 167 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: then picked off on the deflection. So nice win for 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers. But also, you know, the shot of Big 169 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Ben on the sideline after Gaskowski went wide right was 170 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: one of we got away with one here, because that 171 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: could have been a killer loss. But they escape it, 172 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: and uh man, they're looking good. I think we're gonna 173 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: get to the Bucks in a bit. Mark. That's my 174 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: pick for the most balanced team in the league right now. 175 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: But the Steelers when things are clicking right as they 176 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: were early in this game, it is a reminder that 177 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: their tops gear is pretty much ahead of everybody else. 178 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: I think in a f C maybe the Chiefs have 179 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: something to say about that. Let's move on. In the backfield, 180 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: two receivers left, one a right, may feel back to 181 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: pass looks going towards the end zone and it's caught 182 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: by down petals. Joe touched down. Hey got it, Hey 183 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: got it. The Rocky fromfis got it back. Children throw 184 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: unbelievable catch, unbelievable throw. Jim Donovan and Doug Deacon w 185 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: k r K. I can't believe Donovan People's Jones is 186 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: a real name. Like I'm I'm thrilled that that there's 187 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: a person that goes by that name. It's like that 188 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: old Key and Peel sketch, Like that's what that name 189 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: sounds like. But he made a name for himself today, 190 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield hits Donovan People's Jones. Also the name you also, 191 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: you always have to say the full names. It's so 192 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: wild with eleven seconds to play, ceiling a wild one 193 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: win over the Bengals. This also featured after that play, 194 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: Hail Mary that very nearly completed. That would have been 195 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: a fitting way to a wild game. Mark. Per the 196 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Elias Sports Bureau, this is the first game in NFL 197 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: history with five go ahead touchdown passes in the fourth 198 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: quarter by the two teams. Mark the Cardiac kids are back. Yeah, 199 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: it's um. It was. It was a game of two. 200 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: It was two sides of a coin for Cleveland because 201 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you know, and he has had his troubles 202 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: in the last couple of contests. We know that started 203 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: over five and for the second game in a row, 204 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: through an interception on the first play and and that 205 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: brought more news because on that play Odell Beckham. One 206 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: of the reasons Donovan People's jones was, you know in 207 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: there at the end, was that Odell Beckham went down 208 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: with a knee injury. That Ian Rappaport has Um put 209 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: a tweet out saying he'll get an m R. I 210 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: but the concern is that it's very serious, and I 211 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: think we usually know how those go when we get 212 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: those Sunday reports. He was out of the game immediately, 213 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: um Baker when he hit it, missed his first his 214 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: fifth pass. I tweeted out because at that point Joe 215 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: Burrow looked lights out. And we've been seeing it week 216 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: after week. That is Cleveland, okay, with having the fourth 217 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the a f C North, and then 218 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: and then he the last week or so. I'm not 219 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: really jumping ship. Just look at the other quarterbacks in 220 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: the division. I mean, I I don't think he's the 221 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: equal of Joe Burrow, but Um, perhaps psychically to lash 222 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: me and and to shut me up. He completed twenty 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: one passes in a row to finish the game before 224 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: spiking the ball um on the at the end, and uh, 225 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: he looked good. He looked good throwing the ball. I 226 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: thought today, Um, he made some money throws. And on 227 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: that final drive what what what to me looked like 228 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: growth was they had no time outs and he had 229 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: to go you know, near length of the field with 230 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: no time outs and and it wouldn't have happened without 231 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: some insane catches along the way. Um, you know Rashad Higgins, 232 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: who Richard Higgins, who has shown chemistry with Baker Mayfield 233 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: two years ago then last year was out of the loops, 234 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: seemed to be in the doghouse with the coaches. Has 235 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: come on um again and he and he's a big 236 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: part of that passing attack and he's gonna need to be. 237 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna be without Odell Beckham. I wanted to see 238 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: what would happen with a thin receiving corps once he 239 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: went down, and I thought they showed perhaps more chemistry 240 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: than they have through the air and really any other game. 241 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Um, I'd want to 242 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: go watch that again. But another hair prison Bryant and 243 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: today is I just found this out today with one 244 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: of the more absurd um holidays that seems completely created 245 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: out of finnair. It's tight end day apparently, Um, George 246 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Kittle made it up. So is it for Please tell 247 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: me it's for a charity, because I I stomached it 248 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: today because I was like, it must be for a cause. 249 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for a cause, I am furious. Yeah. 250 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: Now kiddo came up with it last year, and I 251 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: think they just they ran. If it's for a cause, 252 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's for you know, George Kittle's personal enjoyment, 253 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: that's what it is, right, but here to celebrate such 254 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: a day. Um, Harrison Bryant, the rookie who we've talked 255 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: about on the show before who looks legit. Um two touchdowns, 256 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Austin Hooper was out with a pendicitis Uh, David and 257 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Joeku caught a past. You have to touchdown past. You 258 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: have to wonder if it's the last action he will 259 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: get in Cleveland. He's on the trade block. Um. I 260 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 1: can't say enough about Joe Burrow. I just thought that 261 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: there were Um, there was one play that really Uh 262 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: it was third and eleven and Joe Burrow um took 263 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: off on a run and it just like Cleveland defend. 264 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense is a disaster and defended it poorly and 265 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: he ran for a first down, but he made froze 266 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: all over the field and their offensive line was banged 267 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: up to at one point Jonah Williams went out with 268 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: a neck injury. Um Trey Hopkins, their center was out, 269 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: and it showed I mean that that it's they had issues. 270 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Um In Borrow, like he does week after week, made plays. 271 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: So I think it's fair still to say that Baker Mayfield, 272 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: in a very good division, is the quarterback looking up 273 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: at the rest of these. But this was sort of 274 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: a well it's different, you know, if it's Thursday night 275 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: football and like I am able just to go, you know, 276 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: sitting do that. I I mistakenly thought that I was 277 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: covering Pittsburgh, Tennessee and was tracking that heavily the entire time, 278 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: taking all these notes, and I'm discovered two minutes into 279 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: the show that I had completely botched that and I 280 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: had made a mistake. But anyways, um, I give Cleveland 281 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: credit for being five ways to figure it out in 282 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: the middle of the show. I think it it out 283 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: four minutes ago. When you when you're um, when you're 284 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: intro to that game went on and on. I thought 285 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: he's at some point is Dan tossing this to me? 286 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: I was a communication issue this morning that I read incorrectly. 287 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: That's another it's another deep died that I'd like to 288 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: take us down and how our show is produced. But 289 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: I will I will stop there five and two, but 290 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I you know, we'll get some of my radar teams 291 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: that have a clear ceiling. And I think Cleveland, this 292 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: is this is good progress. But they're not five and 293 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: two the same way that I look at UM other 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: five and two teams we've encountered. But they could be different. 295 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: You know, all these teams are gonna be different in December. 296 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: I still really believe that, And so you you want 297 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: to be five and two with a chance to be 298 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: different and hopefully better in December, with Myles Garrett potentially 299 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: UM trying to get a Defensive Player of the Year 300 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: award in December. Every every game, like one of the 301 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: first things I do check the Brown's box score, and 302 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching this one is like, Okay, 303 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: did Myles Garrett get his forced fumble today? It's like, yeah, 304 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: he got it, and he got two sacks and another 305 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: tackle for loss. And and in these games where there's 306 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: not a lot of defense, and the Browns don't have 307 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of defense. A lot of times it comes 308 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: down to Kent, do you have a guy that can 309 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: make one or two plays? And Garrett kind of makes 310 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: one or two huge plays every week, which is pretty awesome. 311 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: And not to the labor this point, but when we 312 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: had our discussion about the importance of sacks and getting 313 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks, and it was deemed that Jadeveon Clowney 314 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: doesn't need to get sacks, and by the way, he 315 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: still has zero sacks this season. He's struggling. He's not 316 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: even getting his hurries this year. Listen, Miles Garrett is 317 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: an example why you could say stats is an overrated 318 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: stat or something. But that guy changes games because he 319 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: gets to the quarterback and he knocks the ball loose. 320 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: He's a big time player. You know what. The Browns 321 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: strike me as Mark, I see what you're saying with 322 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: the ceiling, But they, to me, they feel like a 323 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: nine and seven team. Maybe a bounce goes their way 324 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: and they go ten and six, and they're playing in 325 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: January in the playoffs, and they're giving someone a hard 326 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: time on the road, like you're signing up for that 327 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: in a second. Right, absolutely, So I'm not I'm not 328 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: trying to be like, you know, covertly down on the 329 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: whole situation. I just I'm trying to view them the 330 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: same way that I viewed on the teams. Go be 331 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: a really good team. That's the next test for them. 332 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: But good job getting off the mat after last week. 333 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Let's move on. Ricky's not sitting at her desk. Uh 334 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: where we live? Maybe she lost her connection? She's now 335 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: she sat down, Now she got up again. Oh she's 336 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: had the connection. Uh, Ricky, we should keep all this in, Ricky, 337 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: come back to us, Ricky, what's happening? So you see 338 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: that guy that just walked in my window? He just 339 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: like he's my I guess just moved in next door. 340 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but he knocked on the door with 341 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: the pizza and he was like he kind of speaks 342 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: broken English. He's like, can you cut the pizza for me? 343 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Because I don't have anything? And I was like, oh, 344 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: I can give you a knife quick, and then he 345 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: just asked like, what are you doing tonight? Like and 346 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: I just gave him like a freaking butcher knife and 347 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm home alone and I don't know he just he's 348 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: just knocked on my door and asked me to cut 349 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: his pizza. Like, what am I supposed to? I don't 350 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: want a strange man, Eric Erica. When a strange man 351 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: knocks on your door and your home alone and he 352 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: asked for something to cut with, you don't get your 353 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: biggest knife from the kitchen and give it to him. 354 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: This is like the skills one on one. Well, what 355 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: could have you done? Not answer the door? That would 356 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: be an He's literally knocking on my thing and I'm 357 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: like hot like and then he's like, can you cut 358 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: my pizza? And then he just asked when are you 359 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: going to be done? Like the show, Let's let's keep 360 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: the show moving. Let's close the curtains behind you because 361 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: right now he has a free view for whatever. All right, 362 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: where are we? Let's move on. Let's let's move on. 363 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: Alert Alert, Alert, or maybe asker is to call on 364 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: first and Chenna Jeff Wilson Jr. Back in takes the 365 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: wide run right, breaks a tackle five touchdown San fran 366 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: Cisco and that feels great, baby, Greg Papa Tim Ryan 367 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: with the call deadbolt that door, Ricky Hollywood. Jeff Wilson Jr. 368 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Ran for a buck four team three touchdowns. Cam Newton 369 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: threw three picks before being bench for Jared Stindham in 370 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: the second half. The forty Niners cruise to a thirties 371 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: three to six win over the Patriots. New England falls 372 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: the two and four in what was the most lopsided 373 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: home loss of the Bill Belichick Eraic greg After the game, 374 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: The hood had One said that Cam Newton, quote absolutely 375 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: close quotes, will remain his starter. Should it be so definite? Yes, 376 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: because when Jared Stidham has played this year, he has 377 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: not looked any better, including in the in the cameo 378 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: in this game, I know it wasn't a lot of 379 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: tape um, and I just think this ceiling for this team, 380 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: especially offensively, you know it's not too high, but it's higher. 381 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: With Cam Newton getting out of this crazy funk that 382 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: he's in. You have to give the forty Niners defense credit. Um. 383 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: But Cam is as streaky a quarterback as I've ever 384 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: seen throwing the ball. I think that's been true his 385 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: entire career. And he came out and you could just 386 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: tell right away like he was off, like he was 387 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: missing guys. He's been holding the ball a ton the 388 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: last two weeks not seeing things clearly, and then when 389 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: he does pull the trigger, it's like his interception was 390 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: just you could almost see his mind like saying should 391 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: I throw this or not? Interception, missing receivers like that 392 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: was all bad and it wouldn't have mattered, like he 393 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: could have been the best Cam Newton today. And the 394 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: Patriots defense was never gonna get enough stops for them 395 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: to compete in this game. They were very lucky to 396 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: be only down at how off time. It was as 397 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: one sided varsity j V as any half I would 398 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: say of any two teams all year. The forty Niners 399 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: had eighteen first downs at halftime and the Patriots had 400 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: fifteen plays. And it's a reminder Kyle Shanahan not saying 401 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: that like he's a better head coach than Bill Belichick, 402 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: but if I I would rather have an offensive head 403 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: coach that can cook up magic with a whole bunch 404 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: of craziness and injuries rather than a defensive coach with 405 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: the game you know, with who can manage a game 406 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: and have certain things, but has a team with clear flaws. 407 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: Because Kyle Shanahan can still have these game plans where 408 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy g made a couple of nice plays early didn't 409 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: have to really do much, And it's a coaching game, 410 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: and their coaching was better. From a different perspective. Along 411 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: similar lines, maybe Kyle Shanahan has a better GM than 412 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, whose GM is Bill Belichick, Because it feels 413 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: like to me that the Chickens are coming home to 414 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: roost here with a roster that's talent deficient and a 415 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: quarterback that is at this stage of his career hot 416 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: and cold, and there's gonna be games like this when 417 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: a team comes in that has more talent than you, 418 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: that's well coached, that the Patriots maybe aren't special anymore, 419 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: and the fact that these games can happen for a 420 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: team that no longer has a legendary quarterback behind senator 421 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: to clean up the mess that no longer has UH 422 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: can beat you one on one on offense, that the 423 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: defense isn't special like it was for long stretches last year. Um, 424 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't like watching the I guess you're supposed to 425 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: be like Mark. Let me know if you agree. I 426 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: think you're supposed to be like watching the Patriots get 427 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: getting whipped in Foxborough and be like, I can't believe 428 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: this is happening. This is so weird, but none of 429 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: it felt surprising to me, So I didn't like take 430 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: any like Jet Miserable, Jet fan joy out of it 431 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: because it just made sense. The Patriots aren't very good. Well, 432 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it should surprise anyone who watched 433 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos Patriots game with the same cast of characters 434 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: and Julian Edelman Um in time for Halloween becoming a 435 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: complete ghost in an offense that has no direction, and 436 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: and you are fair making a fair point on the 437 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: GM side of things that a lot of this were 438 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: systemic issues a year ago for New England. You just 439 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: had Tom Brady masking over things that I think someone 440 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: like Cam Newton um in a huge funk could not. 441 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: The defense massed over a lot of that last year, 442 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: so the defense falls through the floor. I mean, you've 443 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: got nothing to save you. And you know it's like 444 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Um, where I'd agree with you, Greg, is 445 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: that he's put up, he's placed. He's faced Belichick four 446 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: times and put up thirty an average of thirty points 447 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: on him. And that came by the way he had 448 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: him in the Super Bowl too. You can say whatever 449 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: you want about that game ended. They put up thirty 450 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, they put up enough points to win that game. 451 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we knew it would be a great duel 452 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: between I think two coaches that have like immen's respect 453 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: for each other. But the forty Niners have war parts 454 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: right now. They're pretty broken themselves. I mean, the minute 455 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson comes in and does a very Shanahan s 456 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: thing by running for a hundred and twelve yards and 457 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, Bang, he's being taken off on a cart. 458 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: They can't get healthy. But I would look at the 459 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: Niners overall globally and say they've had a lot, you know, 460 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: maybe west of the Eagles. Their injury issues have been 461 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: um second to none, and they're winning games. I mean 462 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: the whip they took care of the Rams. Uh, they 463 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: absolutely decimated the Patriots today. That makes you think, um, 464 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: when they get healthy, when that time comes, Even with 465 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy g looking quite average to me, um at best, 466 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: I still give them a chance um to sneak into 467 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: the wild card. I do too, because I mean, look, 468 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: they've they've they put it on some teams, but they 469 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: lost Deebo Samuel at the end. Of this game in 470 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: a blowout was a tough spot. Um, I don't know 471 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: how serious that was. And you lost Wilson and the 472 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: reserves on defense like Sherman and d Ford and some 473 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: of the bigger name guys. They're coaching through it, but 474 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: they're probably not back for another month. Um, it's amazing 475 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: what they've done. I also think they're a terrible matchup 476 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: for the Patriots because that the Patriots can't stop the run, 477 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: and that's how Belichick's defense is normally start. They're so 478 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: slow at linebacker, I mean Bentley and Jennings, who's this 479 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: rookie like the outside zone like they they're set up 480 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: to stop some passing teams, and so I think the 481 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: Bills next week, like that's sort of the Patriots last 482 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: stand in this division. They're set up to possibly stop 483 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: some passing teams, but they cannot stop the run and 484 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: they just run it so well. The Patriots, by the way, 485 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: also lost Joe Tuoney, their center in this game to 486 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: kill Harry had a concussion. You mentioned Edelman was in 487 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: and out. He's been so slow and injured this year. 488 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: He had two throws to him today. Both of those 489 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: throws were intercepted. Uh So, the Niners are now four 490 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: and three, and you just it's it's incredible how quickly 491 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: things have changed for them, because you know, they were 492 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: coming off loss to the Eagles in primetime, tough loss. 493 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Then you get blown out seventeen GM G gets benched 494 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: and there's just like panic in the streets about the 495 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: fort with the schedule up ahead. Then they beat the 496 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Rams and the Patriots on the road. What lies ahead 497 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: And we'll dig into this more as the week goes along. 498 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: But at Seattle home Packers, at Saints, at Rams home, 499 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: Bills all coming up now, So they're not out of 500 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: the woods by any stretch, and at four and three, 501 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: they're very vulnerable to get knock kind of out of 502 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: this wild card race. And Jimmy G looked a lot 503 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: better today. I know they're two picks. One of them 504 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: was just you know, at the end of the half um. 505 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: But he did make three or four throws, including on 506 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: third and long. He looked like he was moving better. 507 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: Uh that he looked like Jimmy G kind of from 508 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen today. So they're gonna need that because 509 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: because they're so banged up. But man, they're they're so 510 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: uh talented even despite all the losses. You're right, I 511 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: mean that the Patriots have no players with juice that 512 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: are just gonna win one on one. Ricky, you are 513 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: still available to us. You're aw Yeah, you're still around. 514 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: Good God. We're gonna check in on you periodically, just 515 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: like what do they call those well being checks? Yeah? Um, 516 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: you are in your you know, mid to late twenties. 517 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: Lady never tells, so you've never known anything as a 518 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: Patriots fan like this. How are you doing right now? Um? 519 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, as perfectly stated in the best football film 520 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: of our generation by Coach Boon and remember the Titans, 521 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: it would be perfect in every aspect. You drop a pass, 522 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: you run a mile, you miss a blocking assignment, you 523 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: run a mile, you make a fumble, I'll break my 524 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: foot off in your John Brown hind parts, and then 525 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: you will run a mile perfection. Well, you guys, the 526 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: Patriots will be running mile after mile today. What's happening? Okay? 527 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: All right? Think Dan set that up or something. Listen. 528 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to give her the floor. Hey, speaking of 529 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: um the demise of the Patriots um dynasty. What did 530 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: Zolac have to say when they pulled Newton out of 531 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: the game. Meanwhile, off the sideline for the Patriots incomes 532 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: number four in the blue jersey. Jarrett stood him quarter 533 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: too late, so no helmet, no ear piece on for 534 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: Cam Newton. How does he know what playtist? Oh? Boy oh? 535 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: A hit piece on camp from Zolac. Well, they's like 536 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: coming very clear though that Patriots fans who have listened 537 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: to this show for um seven eight years are heading 538 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: into complete darkness. If if they're going to be dressed 539 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: up this way every time they stumble, it's gonna be 540 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: a long ride for those listeners. How did Zolac get 541 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: from here to here? Quarter too late? So no helmet, 542 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: no ear piece on for Cam Newton. How does he 543 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: know what playtist? I hate to hear it? How does 544 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: he know Cam totally checked out? All right, listen, this 545 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: is all I have. Let's move on. Brady Ball told 546 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: the quarter intel, Scotty Ller, it's got the ball. Touchdops 547 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Touchdouck Tampa Bay Bucketeers, Scotty Miller. Great throw 548 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: by Brady, Oh, Tom Brady, that guy Tom Brady kicked 549 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: him out the door. Gene Decker off with the call, 550 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: and that was one of the prettiest touchdown passes you'll 551 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: see all year, the Brady to Scotty Miller corner end 552 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: zone pass. Tom Brady threw four touchdown passes, moving moving 553 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: him ahead of Drew Brees for number one on the 554 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: all time t D throw list for the time being. 555 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: As the Bucks battled then pulled away from the Raiders, 556 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: Sizzler Watching Brady today, he looked vintage. He looked like 557 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: a master of his craft. You know, the Bucks might 558 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: be the best team in the league if he's this guy, 559 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: I would agree. I mean, we can argue about the 560 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: most complete team, and I hear you with Tampa Bay, Um, 561 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: i'd give it to Pittsburgh in the a f C. 562 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: But one thing, Um, that we were always waiting for 563 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: with Brady in the Bucks offense was you know, it 564 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: was clear that in the first couple of weeks that 565 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: there were issues. Um, were they going to overcome them 566 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: or where that was? That just who they were? Well, 567 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: they're overcoming them, and you just feel this operation heating up, um, 568 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: And I think you could see it in the eyes 569 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady. You could see it in the eyes 570 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: of Bruce Arians, who at one point came over and 571 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: just put an arm around his quarterback. I mean, Bruce 572 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: arians is having fun. I think I mentioned last year 573 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: that I thought he seemed like he had a bit 574 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: of a thousand yards stare didn't necessarily want to be 575 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: involved what what with what he was doing. That's not 576 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: the case now. And I mean, this is a game 577 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: where Mike ever bore there were you know what, that's fine, 578 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: it is absolutely I don't I don't really I not 579 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: claiming that that was a home run. Takes a guy 580 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: for Fox for a season or so. He didn't seem 581 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: to be having much fun doing that. He seemed checked 582 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: out for That was a checkout. That was a checkout. 583 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I was continuing at off of that, but this 584 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: was a game where Mike Evans was essentially not a 585 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: factor until the game was out of hand. Um, and 586 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: it just didn't matter. And it makes me wonder, you know, 587 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: we've there are the reports out there essentially they're they're 588 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: they're adding Antonio Brown, um and there are a variety 589 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: of responses to that move. But it's like, Okay, let's 590 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: see how you can squeeze Antonio Brown into a into 591 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: an offense where Rob Gronkowski starting to look better and 592 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: better every week. Scottie Miller is becoming exactly what you 593 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: thought he might be. With Tom Brady, Chris Godwin was 594 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: all over the place today. They get just enough from 595 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: their ground game when they need to. Uh, their offensive 596 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: line is playing well. Tom Brady is throwing the ball 597 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: as well as he has in years. Uh, he's totally 598 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: in a game like today when he was totally dialed in. 599 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I actually have to give the Raiders credit for hanging around, 600 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: and they really did hang around in this game. There 601 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: was a backbreaking moment for Derek Carr and it was 602 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: they were at this point down I think it was 603 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty or so, but car got picked 604 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: by Antoine Winfield Jr. Who is becoming an awesome safety 605 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and that basically ended it because that 606 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: set up a quick short drive for the Bucks in 607 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones Um to pop him in for a touchdown. 608 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: That was two touchdowns and forty two seconds. The Raiders 609 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: were broken at that point. And I watched this Bucks team, 610 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: guys like Devin White on defense who had three sacks, 611 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: who had a play where he uh saw a a 612 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: a ball handler like seventeen yards away and just single 613 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: handedly sprinted at him and knocked him down. I mean 614 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: he blew up Derek Carr in a play where I 615 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: thought Derek Carr got hurt. Uh. It was one of 616 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: the better games in the second half by Devin White 617 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: that I've seen a defender player the year. It was 618 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: very impressive. So they are extremely complete. Uh, there aren't 619 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: There's not an overt weakness. And you just have to 620 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: look at the offense. Um. And I know that I 621 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, was I got for the way I phrased 622 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: as saying that they would score forty points on on 623 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: the leg. But I would just say that that you 624 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: see it now they can do it. Um, they are 625 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: that attack in everywhere. Well, they haven't had they haven't 626 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: been totally healthy. Now getting Godwin back his key to me, he's, 627 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, the second most valuable player on that on 628 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: that offense. And they're different. And now they add Antonio Brown. 629 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they knew they need Antonio Brown. You know, 630 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know, listening to Bruce arians have to 631 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: answer the question that that well, if if Antonio Brown 632 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: did what he's accused of doing, which you know to 633 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: be clear as sexual assault and rape, Um, then then 634 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: the legal system will take care of that and he 635 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: won't be on the team. And I just I don't 636 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: like him being added to this mix right now in 637 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: arians answering questions like that after this game, because I 638 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: think it's unnecessary. I I lad uh my my debrief 639 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: column last week with the Bucks saying like this team 640 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: can win the Super Bowl. I mean, I think that 641 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: was I think that's an obvious take. I think they're 642 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. I I'm not. I 643 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: didn't need to see much more out of Brady. With 644 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: a good offensive line and the high quality of throws 645 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: he's been making, like he just needs to be a 646 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: top ten to twelve type of quarterback, they could be 647 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: even better than that even as an offense. I think 648 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: if if they do their best, but with this kind 649 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: of line and with this kind of defense, and and 650 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: with this kind of depth of playmakers, to me, they 651 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: are they are the They are the team. If I 652 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: had to pick one out of the NFC, they would 653 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: be my team. Yeah. And you saw what they did 654 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: in the final three quarters against the Packers last week 655 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: when they put it all together and just blew out 656 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: a very good Green Bay team and this game to me. 657 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: And I know he hasn't been this isn't this isn't 658 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: two thousand seven Tom Brady or anything, and he's not 659 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: gonna throw fifty touchdowns, but the way he played today 660 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: was just to me. And I'll again mentioned the Scotty 661 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Miller touchdown past. I mean just the way he's moving 662 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: the pocket, the confidence he's playing there, to the accuracy 663 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: that he's throwing the ball with the zip that he's 664 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: throwing the ball with um, he's playing unbelievable. And you know, 665 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: with the Antonio Brown situation, there's the component of it 666 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: with the off the field issues and the criminal behavior, 667 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: alleged criminal behavior, which is messy, and that's that's a 668 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: separate conversation. But I think in terms of team building, 669 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: it's it's a no brainer. Uh, In terms of building 670 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: your roster out. I know they have three really good 671 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: wide receivers and Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Scottie Miller, but 672 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: Miller has been banged up, Godwin's misstime, Evans hasn't been healthy. 673 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: You never know how this sport works. It's a war 674 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: of attrition. So if you get Antonio Brown in the 675 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: mix and he is on the field and making plays 676 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: he's going to, I think make this offense better. I 677 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: understand why they did it from a team building standpoint, 678 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: but it's obviously fair to get on them for uh 679 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: some of the moral implications of bringing out a player 680 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: like Brown. I would also note that arians after the 681 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: game was said that the decision to bring on Antonio Brown. 682 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: He said, Tom had nothing to do with this. Now, 683 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy a word of that 684 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: now two years like he even said he like admits 685 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: how much he lies to the media. He says, it's 686 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: a it's a good thing. I don't know. He's not 687 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: getting paid much Antonio Brown. He's getting paid the minimum 688 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: with a little bit of incentives. So they like the 689 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: Patriots a year ago, there's very little risk in terms 690 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: of finances, and you could cut them as quickly as 691 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to if if you if you felt like it. 692 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: But I'm telling I mean, we we're talking a lot, 693 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: and I want to see them do it against a 694 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: good defense. I mean, you said, we're not that surprised 695 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: about the Patriots. Well, when they put thirty six on 696 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders, we thought their offense might be pretty good. 697 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: This year, everyone puts thirty everyone's falling apart. My point 698 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: is everyone puts points on the Raiders. Um. So that's 699 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: that's a huge part of the today's equation. It's not 700 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: taking anything away. It's just saying that I like this 701 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: Raiders team, but their defense is maybe the worst in 702 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's certainly one of the three or four 703 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: four worst. And that's why it was so crazy for 704 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: Erica to uh go in a lock off against me 705 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: and Tom. How do you go against Tom Brady right now? Erica? 706 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you come at the king best, not miss Yeah. 707 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean it was a long, a long game. Did 708 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: you guys see my storybook? Um for Gruden and and 709 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: that whole thing, And I just I went with it 710 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: and I lost really hard one. And what is right 711 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: now with the one win being anti Jets, Dan, I 712 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: think you're muted. You were frozen there for a second. 713 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: Are you back? Tough? Sitch there? Ricky? I did one thing. 714 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: I want to get on and just I want just 715 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: check in her welfare at check she's okay, good. I 716 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: just wanted before we move on, get on the Raiders 717 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: and um John Gruden hated, hated, hated, fourth and one 718 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: at the Tampa Bay seventeen yard line, three to play 719 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, they kick a field goal to 720 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: cut it. All year to cut it, I mean a 721 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: year to cut it. It was seventeen game. They were 722 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: down a touchdown to cut it. As if this was 723 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: a team that was going to get multiple stops on 724 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: a locked in Tom Brady with his supporting cast, this 725 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: would happened. After that, Kansas City got the ball back 726 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: eleven Place sixty seven yards touchdown. Next drive for the Raiders, 727 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: interception on the first play, following drive for Kansas City 728 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: to Place twenty four yards touchdown, followed by a four 729 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: and out by the Raiders filed followed by six Place 730 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: thirty two yards touchdown. It went from congratulations on your 731 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: field goal, Well they, I will say, they were hanging 732 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: in there and trying to, you know, not completely go hey, 733 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 1: we're off. And then they scored two touchdowns in two seconds. 734 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: So that was all packed into a crumbling a huge 735 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: melt play to win the game. Let's move on, Sorry, 736 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: sepred It's dann Sorrenson. Sorenson, here's true. Lock throws a 737 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: fifty yard pick six, dirty dance Arenson. How about that? 738 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: The Chiefs got a two yard kickoff return for a 739 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: touchdown by Byron Pringle, another name I Love, a hard 740 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: charging TV run by Clyde Edwards, Hilaire A Mahomes, the 741 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: Tyreeke t d connection, and yes dirty Dance. Sorenson with 742 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: the pick six and Drew Lock added up to a 743 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: fortin over the Broncos at a frigid and snowy mile 744 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: high mark. You know, this is a game again. This 745 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: is one of the coldest days in the history of 746 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: Broncos football, which you would never think would happen this 747 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: time of year, but it was, so that's gonna affect 748 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: the passing game for the second straight week. Kansas City 749 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: weather elements played a part, I think in how they 750 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: were able to attack the opponent, but they were hitting 751 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: Denver from so many angles that it turned into a 752 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: blowout even with a single Mahome is touchdown. Well, and 753 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: if you're gonna, if you're gonna try to challenge Kansas City, 754 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: who is not a team that can't operate in cold weather. 755 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,479 Speaker 1: I mean it was beautiful to look at the snow. 756 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: The Broncos were hideous to look at. And you know, 757 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: this is a game for those you measuring Drew Lock 758 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I know a couple of close, 759 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: die hard Broncos fans that came away from this one 760 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: just very concerned about what they have under center. I mean, 761 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: you have two killer fumbles from Melvin Gordon, uh, two 762 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: interceptions from Lock and they never really got untracked. And 763 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: and you know, you we saw our first taste of 764 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: Levy on Bell for the Chiefs. I thought he looked 765 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: it looked pretty good. They didn't use him a ton, 766 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: but it's just another we're talking about Antonio Brown. It's 767 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 1: another piece to add and you can question why they're 768 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: doing it, but to me, it's just like, you know, 769 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: load up, load up, down the stretch and uh, there 770 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: was no This game was just not a competition. And 771 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: I think that the Broncos, for all their parts, um 772 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: parts are great, but you need you need like the 773 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: quarterback play to equal it. And it just didn't happen 774 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: today at all. Well reminds me a little when the 775 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: forty Niners suddenly had all their players back and then 776 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: they got blown out that first game with the Dolphins. 777 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and the Broncos obviously aren't at the stage 778 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: of development at the fort You still gotta start playing 779 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: together a little bit um and uh, the offense you 780 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: would expect to do more. I'll take the l on 781 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 1: this that I thought. I thought the Broncos were gonna 782 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: be in this game. But you have a first half 783 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: where it's a pick six and a kick return against 784 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: it Saint the Chiefs. Forget about it. I mean that 785 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: that's it. It's over. I mean they the Chiefs were 786 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: held till like five and a half yards to play. 787 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: They didn't have a they didn't have a third down 788 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: in the game, they didn't convert a third down in 789 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: the game, and they put up forty three points like 790 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: they had under three yards in this game the Chiefs. 791 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 1: So I think the Broncos defense was up for a challenge, 792 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: but it's if you're giving away points on special teams, uh, 793 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: in your offense, eventually the defense is gonna cave it. 794 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the better defenses around, but 795 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: it's just you can't be put with you can't have 796 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: that weight put on you dealing with the Chiefs. It 797 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: was terrible performance by the Broncos. I still have an 798 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: open mind with Drew Lock, but now eight starts in 799 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: and I just don't see anything special there. He's gonna 800 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: need to improve his play. Um, he wasn't good enough 801 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: in this game. Just But at the same time, if 802 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna give the homes a past for not lighting 803 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: it up in in these elements, and let me just 804 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: give you a little hardcore information on this kickoff temperature 805 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: of fourteen degrees tied for the fifth coldest game in 806 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: Broncos history, the third coldest home game in franchise history, 807 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,959 Speaker 1: and the coldest pre Halloween home game in franchise history. 808 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like a like a Jake Jillen Hall natural 809 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: disaster film taking part. Let's hear it for climate change. 810 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: Way to go. It's racking up the scores this year. Uh. 811 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: Levon Bell did look pretty good. He had to sixteen 812 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: yard runs. Uh in limited work he ran six times 813 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: for thirty nine yards. He had one run of sixteen 814 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: yards in two d and six the four carries with 815 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: the Jets. So I think he tweeted after the game, 816 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: man that felt so good. Uh. So he's happy to 817 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: be on a winner. You know. It goes to show 818 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: you if you complain enough, you could get into a 819 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: better situation than the modern NFL. Good for him, Um, 820 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: but Yeah, total effort for the Chiefs here and the Broncos. 821 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: Running out of time to write this thing. Let's move 822 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: on to Rogers looks rainbows right side, He's got his 823 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: Bandavante Adams to the ten of the five, right side 824 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: to the end zone, cutting it back, touts down Green 825 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Wayne Larravy with a call. W T MJ 826 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: with the call. Aaron Rodgers look vulnerable last week against 827 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 1: the Bucks, who was back to m v P form 828 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: against the Texans, throwing four touchdown passes too to an 829 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: uncoverable Davante Adams in Houston for the Packers, Mark Uh, 830 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers looked like Aaron Rodgers again. Yes, and this 831 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: is a game that I was supposed to cover, but 832 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: I did catchum many elements of this and for me, 833 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: because of coming off of last week, it was one 834 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: of those games where heat check on the Packers are 835 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: are We had entered in into a place where they're 836 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: a myth. They aren't what we thought the first four weeks. Well, 837 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: I think they are what we what we thought they 838 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: were because they were and they were dialed in from 839 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: the beginning with literally no with no, with no reservations. 840 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean in the first half two fifty yards nine 841 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: point four yards per attempt, and you know you're playing 842 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 1: a Texans team that's been frisky. But the Texans opened 843 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: with basically three points a miss field goal, and then 844 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: they went to half where the the Packers like right 845 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: right out of the gate, a fifty five yard drive 846 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: and eighty eight yard drive, both of those taking up 847 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: ten and nine plays, eating up the clock. They score 848 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: a third touchdown before the half game over, and then 849 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: you know their defense has not been special, but that's enough, 850 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: that's enough to get it done. And so I look, 851 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: I think it's I think what happened last week was 852 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: we just talked about the Bucks you were dealing with. 853 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: It's one of the two or three super legit defenses, 854 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: and that's your concern. Can they operate? Can the Packers 855 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: get to a higher level against that kind of a defense, Well, 856 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: they'll probably see them again mm hmm. Like this is 857 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: a spot where you know, you the Texans are one 858 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: of the few teams that travel their cornerback, you know, 859 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: Bradley Roby with the opposing number one, and then you 860 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: have him matched up against Davante Adams. He has his 861 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: struggles and he gets hurt and uh, it all all 862 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: falls apart from there. I mean, Packers defense is all 863 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: they gotta do. Force three punts in a row to 864 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: start a game. You're gonna win every one of those games. 865 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: It's like you just need the Packers defense to show up. 866 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: And that half is as good a half, you know, 867 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: production wise, as they've had in a long time. The 868 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: Packers defense, they need to start having some building blocks 869 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: as I'm not worried about the Packers offense. They did 870 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: this without Aaron Jones today. I mean they found out 871 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 1: before the game Aaron Jones is inactive and they still 872 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 1: they still put up points like that. And Davante Adams 873 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: he's a special player because he he's he's the guy 874 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: in the league that and you know, maybe DeAndre Hopkins 875 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: is another one that when he is gets into his zone, 876 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: he could just put up Madden on easy type numbers. 877 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: He had a career high one yardage, the most yards 878 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: by a Green Bay player since Jordy Nelson went for 879 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: two oh nine back in Week two, and Adams was 880 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: one catch shy of tying the franchise record shared by 881 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: himself in Week one of this year. And Don Hudson 882 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: back in two, so like when him and Rogers are right, 883 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: there is no more devastating tandem in the league. J J. 884 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: Watt uh spoke after the game about where the Texans 885 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: are at. Let's listen to that. About the way Rogers 886 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: played today, and I'm compared to the ways you've seen 887 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: him play earlier and when you guys played against him, 888 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: he played very well. To her, what do you do that? 889 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: What made him play well through the ball to receiver? 890 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: In my cart? I if you could see the look 891 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: on JJ Watt's face, it's why I wanted to man 892 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: he was He had this like gritted teeth look. He 893 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say anything like he's look he sounded like 894 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: he wanted to jump through the screen and strangle John McClain, 895 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: who was asking that question, probably from Houston, Poor John McLean. Well, 896 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: it's also a team that you know they're There are 897 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: whispers out there that they could be heavy, um, very 898 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: active before the trade deadline. And I think the trade 899 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: deadline is not going to be a deadline this year 900 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: because to get players in with the Corona business, they're 901 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: saying the trades are gonna happen sooner, and guys like 902 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: Will Fuller have been mentioned um this week, this week 903 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: because a week from Tuesday. But yeah, you could see 904 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: in the next forty eight hours. I think we could 905 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: see trades because it's like, if you're gonna let him go, 906 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: move on, I think with what to you know? They're 907 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: one in six as they hit thereby. His brother t 908 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 1: J has not that this is part of the reason 909 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: it's frustrate, but kind of surpassed him, perhaps as a 910 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: talent in the NFL on an undefeated Steelers team. And 911 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 1: here's j J wat Um, a proud player, future Hall 912 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: of Famer, on the other side of thirty in the 913 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: middle of a mess in Houston. I can imagine it's 914 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: got to be very frustrating from where he kind of 915 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: saw his career arc as on a Super Bowl contender, 916 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure he thought. And now to see where they 917 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: are now, tough sitch as they say, as you say, okay, 918 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 1: as I said, let's move on. Here we go, Let's 919 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: see it the money plays, Let's see what the Lions 920 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: dial up. Two seconds to go. Stafford in the out 921 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: of the gun. He's got it back looks looks talks 922 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: watch steps up, looks talk, J get it. That's tied 923 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: it and then extra point away. I'm winning this game? Wow, Babby, 924 00:48:53,440 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: how big is that? Big is that? Oh man? That 925 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: might be the call the year from Dan Miller with 926 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 1: Lomas Brown w j R. Yes, Maddie Stafford uh found 927 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: t J. Hockenson in the end zone with no time 928 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: on the clock, a game tying score that's set up 929 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: a long after a penalty p t by Matt Prader 930 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: from forty eight yards to nail down a win. So 931 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: there you go. The Lions, who lost so many games 932 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: like this win one. And for the Falcons it's the 933 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: same thing over and over. Greg lots to unpack here, 934 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: but I want to start here. Actually with the Todd 935 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: Gurley touchdown that costs the Falcons the game. Yeah you 936 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 1: heard that right. Everyone knew it was coming. Everyone watching 937 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: that game knew that the Lions had to be thinking 938 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 1: of allowing the Falcons to score a touchdown. The situation 939 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: was about a one ten to go. They had just 940 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: gotten inside the ten yard line. They could have just 941 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: run the clock out that the Lions were out of 942 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: time out and the only cha they could have for 943 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 1: you know it would be blocking a young Way coup 944 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: kick from from you know, a couple of yards away, 945 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: or they could have kneeled and then scored a touchdown 946 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: after that, after birning some clock, and you thought, I 947 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: wonder if Matt Patricia is gonna think back to the 948 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: Patriots Super Bowl where they, you know, they let the 949 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: Giants score, whether they do it again. And I think 950 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons coaching staff told Todd Gurley, don't score a touchdown. 951 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: So he breaks a tackle right at the line of 952 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: scrimmage where they kind of have tried to tackle, and 953 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: then they let him in and he decides about the 954 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: one yard like oh no, oh, no, oh no, tries 955 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: to get down on the ground, tries not to score. 956 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: It was too late. He scored by mistake. It is 957 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 1: the most Falcons thing ever that you are allowed to score. 958 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: You're you're told not to score, and then you score 959 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: by mistake. And you could still you could have still 960 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: stopped the Lions at that point. But after Gurley scored 961 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: that touchdown, there was no doubt in my mind. I 962 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: don't care that the Lions had no timeouts. There was 963 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind they were gonna go right 964 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: down the field and score down. And you do have 965 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: to give Stafford and Kenny Golladay, who was a total 966 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: difference maker today, credit for making some great plays in 967 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 1: that drive, especially Golliday which set up that game winning touchdown. 968 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: But what a dart, What a beautiful dart to Golliday 969 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: to set up the Hawkins and score. Yeah, and in 970 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: in true Falcons fashion, Falcons zooming up the pain rankings 971 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: the fact that when as he loses his balance and 972 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: he goes down to the ground, it's like this like 973 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: fun house mirror reverse scenario of how football works, where 974 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: it's like did the ball cross the plane for the touchdown? 975 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: But that's not what you want, of course, Yes, of 976 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 1: course with the Falcons, it's gonna go the wrong way 977 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: for them and just another crushing loss. I mean maybe 978 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: in the long term. Honestly, Mark, this is kind of 979 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: good for the Falcons who are playing for two thousand 980 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: twenty one anyway. But at the same time, for a 981 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: team that's had so many stomach punch loss is this 982 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: year to just add another one to the ledger in 983 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: a new and unique way. You just don't need that. 984 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: Well there, I wouldn't trust them to not be in 985 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, no matter how that will they 986 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: played for fifty eight minutes. Um, but look at these 987 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: frisky little three and three lions. Oh you're jumping back 988 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: on because they're and you you were sinking them. I mean, 989 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: get on. I built my own vehicle wagon with my 990 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: own vehicle. You know that as as horror horrific this 991 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: matchup was in terms of the uniforms and the stadium lighting, 992 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: which I know Chris Wessling got a lot of tweets 993 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: at him and he was retweeting them, and you know, 994 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: it was an all time bad looking game. You know, 995 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: it was a very evenly played, you know, good football contest. 996 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Julio Jones played well. It was like 997 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: very even, very tense, but to end that way was 998 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: just the most falcons. And they have mentioned that any 999 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: sort of trade rumors around Ryan and Julio Jones, I mean, 1000 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: I guess you get blown away. Are simply wind at 1001 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: this point that they're not moving them this season. I 1002 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: noticed that. I guess it was whenever their previous home 1003 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: game was. And that's a beautiful building, Mercedes ben Stadium. 1004 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: We were there for the Super Bowl a couple of 1005 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: years ago, and it was kind of the first of 1006 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 1: its kind. Having the in the round visual scoreboard that's 1007 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: now going to be the rage everywhere, and we see 1008 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: it in the new Hollywood Park facility here. But there's 1009 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,919 Speaker 1: something off about the turf, the coloring of the turf 1010 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: and the lighting in the stadium that just kind of 1011 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: everything feels muted and a little bit depressing. That feels 1012 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: like a fairly easy fix. Thousands of so many things 1013 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: they need to fix. That feels like something that could 1014 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: be handled pretty quickly, maybe even during a bye week 1015 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: or something. Um Mark, I'm picturing you like on like 1016 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: a like a donkey or like you know, you're on 1017 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: your like borrow and you're you're trying to catch up 1018 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: to the sputtering Lions bandwagon. So you could do like 1019 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: an Indiana Jones, do the whip and pull yourself on it. 1020 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: You're strugg going to catch up with the borrow. You 1021 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: can you can do it. Maybe, I mean you're putting 1022 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: me on a on a farm animal. I'm not. I've built, 1023 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: I said I built and enjoy. It's not going to 1024 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: be an animal this. If this game doesn't convince you, 1025 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna, you know, roar to the playoffs. So 1026 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: what will I just said they're frisky, and they are 1027 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: they're suddenly suddenly, they're back in the conversation. Sitting at 1028 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: five hundred. A lot of season left, Greg and Dan 1029 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: moving on. Here's the snap on second and two and 1030 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: this passes. This really interestinger ship that Jerry Hughes has 1031 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: the ball and he has goes down. He gets a 1032 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: late hit, but Jerry Hughes comes up with the pick somehow. 1033 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 1: What a call. Listen, the Bills had six field goals 1034 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 1: for their scoring, not a lot to choose from in 1035 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: this one. Yes, the Bills losing streak is over because 1036 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,439 Speaker 1: their defense finally took a game over Buffalo's. The health 1037 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: Sam Donald in the Jets the four total yards on 1038 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: sixteen plays from scrimmage in the second half, allowing the 1039 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: Bill's offense to dig out of an early double double 1040 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: digit deficit and an eventual eighteen to ten win. Donald 1041 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: was sacked five times and through two picks, including the 1042 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: game stealer, a deflection u corralled by Jerry Hughes late 1043 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Um. Jerry Hughes was awesome in 1044 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: this game. He played like a man possessed. Um had 1045 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: two sacks tackles for loss. The interception, just around the 1046 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: ball all game in a strange game, because we talked 1047 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: about it on the preview show that this was an 1048 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: obvious get right game for the Bills. Uh, you kind 1049 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: of imagine this could have been a thirty four to seven, 1050 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, forty two to six type game, and they 1051 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 1: get right. Well, that wasn't the way things started out. 1052 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: They fall down ten nothing in the second quarter. Uh, 1053 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has a fumble uh and deep and Jets 1054 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: territory that he loses. Um. He is showing some accuracy 1055 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: issues again and you're you're wondering what's going on here. 1056 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: But they are able to get back in the game 1057 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: because the Jets offense with Donald uh struggling in the 1058 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: first game for dal Loggins who took over play calling 1059 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: duties from Adam Gates, which I guess is just gaze 1060 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: and total desperation mode mode at this point, just trying 1061 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: to do anything to spark matters. But it didn't work 1062 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: and uh, Josh all couldn't get Buffalo into the end zone. Um. 1063 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: But they also didn't punt as far as I can recall, Uh, 1064 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: they settled for eight field goal attempts, hitting six of them, 1065 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: and that accounted for all the scoring. So not you 1066 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: guys did not miss a golden game here, but the 1067 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: Bills will take it and they get back on the 1068 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: winning side of things, and they're five and two. How 1069 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: are you, uh on Donald's return because you know, early 1070 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: get you know, he made some big throws which I saw, 1071 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: and then you look at it and in the second half, 1072 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: the Jets at four yards. I don't know if I've 1073 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: ever seen that four yards as a team and on 1074 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: sixteen places, you know, there's just basically a three and 1075 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 1: out machine, and you know the way, and I tweeted 1076 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: about it this week. So like, if you're trying to 1077 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: figure out what do you want out of this Jet season, 1078 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: at this point, it's like, alright, ten games, let's see 1079 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: what Sam Donald has. Because you're kind of like as 1080 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: Mark alluded to on our preview show, and a bit 1081 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: of a catch twenty two situation where like you don't 1082 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: want to give up on Sam Donald because you have 1083 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: a lot invested in him and you you've seen the flashes, 1084 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: but at the same time, like he needs to improve 1085 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: and really make it a tough decision for the Jets 1086 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: if they do indeed end up having uh, perhaps the 1087 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: number one overall pick, and this game, to me was 1088 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: like a huge red flag because the Bill's defense hasn't 1089 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: been any good this year and the Jets didn't have 1090 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: Jameson Crowder, which is a huge loss for that offense 1091 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: because he basically is the offense for most of the season. 1092 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: But they did have Perriman back, and they got Denzel 1093 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: Mims back, and early on they were they did have 1094 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a connection. But the fact that you 1095 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: face planted in the second half, you're You're just gonna 1096 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: make the decision easier for the Jets if you have 1097 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: a couple more of these performances. So yeah, I was 1098 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: disappointed by his play. I mean, I guess if you're 1099 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: you can't you can't kill Jets fans if a couple 1100 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: of months from now, if this season plays out as 1101 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: it has um to switch loyalties because a Jets fans 1102 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: job has been an awful job. But you're not sitting 1103 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: there just to not enjoy life. Um, so a ton 1104 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: of changes coming. I did see DJ in terms of quarterbacks, 1105 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: not in terms of teams, because I wouldn't blame him 1106 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: for tweet switching teams. I mean, life's too short. Well, 1107 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: that's well, I don't think that. I don't know too 1108 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: many Jets fans that would do that or any To 1109 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: be honest, they're very loyal, man. I wouldn't blame them. 1110 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: But I saw Daniel Jeremiah. Jeremiah tweet that their Jets 1111 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: rookie class um. He was gushing about how promising it was. 1112 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's because Mims came in and made some plays. 1113 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: Mims got out of the game healthy, made some catches 1114 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: and that's you know, you get excited about that. And 1115 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: McKay Beckton came back in and he looks like a 1116 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: potential all Pro level left tackle, which is a huge hit. 1117 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean DJ was happy to see a 1118 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: positive tweet about the Jets once because you don't see 1119 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: many of them. But yeah, Donald is up to about 1120 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: thirty starts now, and you can't just continue to hope 1121 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: that he's going to kind of pull it together at 1122 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: a certain point, especially why it did cross my mind 1123 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: during this very ugly second half. You know, Joe Burrow 1124 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: lightening up the Browns, and he's been lightening up teams 1125 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: all year, justin Herbert, what he's been able to do. Uh, 1126 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: you know what that's what you expect at some point, 1127 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: and you just haven't. You haven't seen it from Donald 1128 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: And even though he's been in a horrible situation, you 1129 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: gotta have results at some point. So that's where I'm 1130 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: at on I'm starting to kind of mentally begin my 1131 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: break from Sam Donald and and mentally preparing for the 1132 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: idea of hitting the reboot. Well, it's competitive, although the Jets, 1133 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, look as bad as you know any team. 1134 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: Certainly there are only there. I counted their seven teams 1135 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: with one winner. Less, there's a lot of bad teams 1136 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: this year. The battle. Uh, there's a lot of three 1137 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 1: gaul You could your seven teams right now where it's 1138 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: week seven right now, and there's seven teams with one winner. 1139 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Take a look at the jets upcoming schedule and tell 1140 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: me where you see the three games. You're lucky because 1141 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 1: their schedules brutal ba game as they got. All right, 1142 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: let's move on another team in the tank for Trevor Sweepstakes. 1143 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Steps back now, throw it deep down the left sideline. 1144 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: That's Terry mcclord. Wide open pitch catch, touchdown, touchdown, Washington. 1145 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: You are not gonna double cast that one. Bram Weinstein 1146 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: and Julie Donaldson w t M. Good to hear the 1147 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: female perspective in the calls, and you don't get much 1148 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,919 Speaker 1: of that might be the only one, right scary. Terry 1149 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: McLaurin and Kyle Allen hooked up on a fifty two 1150 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: yard touchdown and the Washington football team coasted to win 1151 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: over the moribund Dallas Cowboys. I mean, a team that 1152 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: could be headed towards major changes in the near future. Greg, 1153 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys really are this bad? They are. UM, it 1154 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: was unfortunate to see Andy Dalton go out with UM 1155 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: a concussion after a dirty hit UM by John Bostic. 1156 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was intentional, but it was 1157 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 1: a late hit on a slide and he'll he got 1158 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: kicked out of the game and he'll probably be suspended. 1159 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think that should um distract from how 1160 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: thorough a total beat down the game already was before that. 1161 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: I think you could have had Andy Dalton out there 1162 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: for twelve drives and I don't think they were going 1163 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: to score a touchdown with him or UM. Who was 1164 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: who was their quarterback? Ben Denucci? Like just I don't 1165 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: even I don't even want to, I don't even want 1166 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 1: to professional and look, he actually made one one good 1167 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: throw and in his limited time, but wow, they were 1168 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: overmatched on both sides of the boss, just totally overmatched. 1169 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Forget Washington being in the in the mix for Trevor. 1170 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Their their defense is too good. I think they're gonna 1171 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: win too many games, and their offense is better with 1172 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen. I do think it was a smart move 1173 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,919 Speaker 1: to go to Kyle Allen. I kind of I thought 1174 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: so at the time too, And I think he's not great, 1175 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: but they're better. I mean, we liked Kyle Allen for 1176 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: games last year and then you know, the floor fell out. 1177 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,439 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson yards on the ground. I think you're right, Greig. 1178 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: They're they're a little too frisky. They're a little too 1179 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: talented on defense to be in that race. This is 1180 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to me um this season. Mike McCarthy answering 1181 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: questions after the game about the Dalton hit from Bostick 1182 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: and acknowledging that one of the things that threw him 1183 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: that he found concerning Let's hear it, we speak all 1184 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: the time about playing for one another, you know, protecting 1185 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 1: one another. M So definitely was probably not the response 1186 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: that would yeah, that you know, when your quarterback goes down, 1187 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: you want everyone around him and and and that was 1188 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: done with Dak Prescott obviously, but people get after Boston, 1189 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: but I mean that's what he's saying. It's it's rally 1190 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: around your quarterback and show show Washington that you're not 1191 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 1: taking that and instead, um, this lifeless roster which has 1192 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: had a complete disconnect a with the coaching staff and 1193 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: be with anyone observing the Dallas Cowboys this season did nothing. 1194 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: And I think that speaks to me about the A 1195 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of the criticism you started to hear about the 1196 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: player coach relationships and everything going on weeks ago that 1197 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: had you concerned, but you saw the talent and now 1198 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: it's just like, talent is fine. Every team has talent um, 1199 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 1: they're not playing up in any level to where they are. 1200 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know how you come out of this 1201 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: season if you're Jerry Jones and things stay a pace 1202 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 1: um with a vote of confidence and Mike McCarthy it's 1203 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: one and done and you know what the rest of 1204 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the thing moves on with. And I mean, this is 1205 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: as bad of a coaching job as I've ever seen. 1206 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: I think that is well within the range of outcomes 1207 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 1: if this continues, and especially who knows what Dalton I mean, 1208 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with a concussion, was a nasty head. 1209 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: You know, these guys can come back five days later 1210 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: from concussions, it's just the way the sport is, or sometimes, 1211 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: depending on the severity, could disappear for the rest of 1212 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: the year. So we don't need to know his status 1213 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: right now. But the fact that he has come out 1214 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: and looks so helpless, uh, puts this team into a 1215 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: really dark place now where uh if he can't play. 1216 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: And Benny Denucci, who we you know, we like his name, 1217 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 1: but he's a seventh round pick. Uh, so you're not 1218 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: expecting a lot for him. This thing could really create her. 1219 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: And again you have a aging results wants results now 1220 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: level owner. And I would even put a sandwich wager 1221 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: out there that this this could end up with McCarthy 1222 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: being sent out of town. And I don't think I 1223 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: take you on it. Because you want to do it, 1224 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: let's do it. I just just I's not a crazy 1225 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 1: sandwich to put up there. I think there's cases for 1226 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: both sides. I don't know if Jerry Jones gonna want 1227 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,919 Speaker 1: to admit he's wrong that quickly. It's gonna be slow 1228 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: water torture though for this season, because because of how 1229 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 1: bad the NFC East is, they're gonna have to like 1230 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: not give up. Like it's like the games are gonna 1231 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: keep mattering as they keep playing this bad and and 1232 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: I thought like, when I, you know, heard about the 1233 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you know Dalton not you know getting near him, I 1234 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: thought about, like, well, how many of these guys know 1235 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: each other that well, it's like an offensive line of 1236 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: just total replacements. I'm not saying that justifies it. I'm not. 1237 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell you these aren't even the Cowboys. 1238 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: It was only one starter left, um from the offensive 1239 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: line as before, Andy Dalton's not there. I just want 1240 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 1: to throw this out before he goes. By the way, 1241 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I think Scott Turners doing a good job as their 1242 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: coordinator considering how little talent there is, and that I 1243 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: think it again shows um how poor like Dallas is 1244 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: coaching the The Washington football team had a hundred, two 1245 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two yards at halftime. Washington, they had 1246 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: their season high and running for the year at halftime 1247 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty five yards against this Cowboys d 1248 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 1: and their health. They're pretty healthy on the Cowboy, so 1249 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, let's not forget about that Cowboys. The wow. 1250 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I should have locked up the Cowboys 1251 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: this week. Hey, Eric, are you there? Did we lose 1252 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 1: her again? I think I think this is this is 1253 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: a periodic welfare check if you're just joined. Eddie Spaghetti 1254 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: is here now he came. He's a hunk of bees. Yeah, 1255 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: so Eddie was just outside checking the perimeter. I like it. 1256 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Eddie brought in. I got Staten Island in the house, 1257 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: full investigator on the case. I'm glad that Eddie's in 1258 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: the building because that's a guy that I would trust. 1259 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Nothing else in that apartment A right good. I just 1260 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 1: also want to make sure you're not like wandering around 1261 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: the city handing drifters, stunned guns and lead pipes, and 1262 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: after what we saw earlier with the butcher knife being 1263 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: handed to the stranger here. Yeah, no, I'm I'm very 1264 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: very properly scared. So Eddie and there's nothing in the apartment. 1265 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 1: He sounds like he maybe just moved in and he 1266 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: ordered a pizza because has he's he has no groceries, 1267 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 1: and so he maybe it's legit and he's a very 1268 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: nice person that needed a night for you. Yeah, let's 1269 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 1: get shook over there. That's you know, Eddie's a nice 1270 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: piece of meat over there for protection. But let's welcome 1271 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: and Nick shook Erica in a little bit of danger. Potentially. 1272 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: We're keeping an eye on it, Nick, but we're gonna 1273 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: send you over if we feel it to be necessary. OK. 1274 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't go to the gym five days week for 1275 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 1: no reason. What a piece of meat himself? All right? 1276 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: Shook is with us? Uh to continue with the highlights, 1277 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: And here's a shootout of fun game down at the 1278 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: super Dome. Shall we sly will attempt an NFL record 1279 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: sixty five yard field goal? It kicks away. It is 1280 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: getting dangerously close and just short. Mm hmmm mmmmmmmmm. Zack 1281 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Street with the all for w w L sixty five 1282 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 1: yards dead red down the middle but fell about two 1283 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: yards short of the crossbark. Was that close to NFL history, 1284 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: But it didn't work out for the Panthers and Joey 1285 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Sly and that rule with BA to the Saints. Drew 1286 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Brees completed past the eight different pass catchers through for two, eight, 1287 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 1: seven and two touch INDs and added another score in 1288 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,719 Speaker 1: the ground. That's three straight wins for the Saints. Shook. 1289 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: Let's give New Orleans some credit here. They are shorthanded 1290 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 1: on offense and they're still getting it done. Yeah. No, 1291 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and yet Drew Brees really spread the ball 1292 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 1: around really well. Yeah. Yeah. Deonte Harris had his first 1293 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: career touchdown catch today. He went to a number of 1294 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: different other different receivers album camera doing it again, of course, 1295 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: over a hundred all purpose yards for the seventh straight game, 1296 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 1: which is the longest active streak in the NFL. I mean, 1297 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, this is the offense even without the guys 1298 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: that we knew. You know that the names aren't there, 1299 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 1: but this is still the offense that we expected from 1300 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: the Saints. And yeah, the only one by three points, 1301 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 1: but it was it was enough of a back and 1302 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 1: forth the fair where when you stepped away from it afterward, 1303 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: you're like, that was a quality win. I mean, the Panthers, 1304 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, they're not a team that we expected much from, 1305 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: but they're pretty competitive and it was a competitive game today. 1306 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 1: So it still is a good win for the Saints. Well, 1307 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: it's also a game you look at, you know, the 1308 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: yardage and the game's close, but the yardagees and the 1309 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Saints moved the ball a lot better um, and that 1310 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,679 Speaker 1: goes to I think the Panthers overachieving. But the Saints 1311 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 1: are pretty deep, even though they're injured, and we get 1312 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: to Michael Thomas because I do, I do want to 1313 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: talk about Michael Thomas, but they're pretty injured in various parts, 1314 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 1: but their lines are are getting healthy, and like they're 1315 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: deep along those lines. And Marcus Davenport, who's back and healthy, 1316 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: had a huge sack to back up that Joey slide 1317 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 1: field goal and not to me like that has that's 1318 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 1: a huge moment in that game. Yeah, I mean there 1319 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: was only two sacks the entire game, and and that 1320 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: was the biggest defensive play I think of the entire game. 1321 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: The other one was Brian burns Uh forcing a fumble 1322 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: near the end of the first half which let do 1323 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 1: a touchdown and the Panthers, I mean, he took a 1324 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen leading in the second quarter and looked like, oh, 1325 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: they might pull this off. And it was close throughout 1326 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: the game, but you're right, the Saints, you know, out 1327 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: gained them, and it was really them. It was really 1328 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: the Panthers finding way to remain the game late, and 1329 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 1: you know that that sack kind of put him in 1330 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 1: a position where you already knew that was gonna be outcome. 1331 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: You're like, are they really gonna do it? Is this 1332 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 1: really gonna happen? But I will say I'll give Joey 1333 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Slye this. If Teddy bridge Water doesn't take that sack, 1334 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,719 Speaker 1: that's the tie game and went over because from sixty 1335 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 1: five missed by about two ft. And this is a 1336 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 1: guy that was on the Corona list a few uh 1337 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,719 Speaker 1: some things ago. Yeah, that's start of the week. Um, Greg, 1338 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 1: you I think you deserve credit for standing by Teddy 1339 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 1: Bridgewater during this offseason ramp up to the season. He 1340 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 1: they moved the ball and they could put up big plays. 1341 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson and d J. Moore are now the only 1342 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 1: teammate duo in the NFL with five plus receiving yards 1343 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 1: through Week seven. Uh entering Sunday Night Football. Uh they 1344 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 1: this is not a dinkin duck. The average air yards 1345 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 1: per tempt um myth around Teddy Bridgewater has been proven false. 1346 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: Uh So listen, they're now three and two in five 1347 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 1: games without Christian McCaffrey. I believe they're playing Thursday night 1348 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: and they're expected, uh to potentially get McCaffrey back. He 1349 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: has not played since week two, So I mean, you're 1350 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 1: signing up, You're you're signing up for three and four 1351 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 1: probably if you're Matt Rule, even though you're disappointed tonight. 1352 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: I got sandwiches on Teddy having more yards than Josh Allen, 1353 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 1: which uh, I would have would have thought it with 1354 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: Teddy's in like the top seven right in passing yards, 1355 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,839 Speaker 1: he'd be in good shape. But he's he is trailing, 1356 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: but he's in that mix. I do think we should 1357 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: mention how weird this Michael Thomas thing is. I don't 1358 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 1: know what's going on here. Dude, he was supposed to 1359 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: be back like three or four weeks ago. Dude gets 1360 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: in a fight and get suspended before the bye week. 1361 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Everyone thought he was gonna play the week four. Then 1362 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 1: there's like rumblings he returns to practice that he might 1363 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 1: get traded. Then there's Sean Payton going after someone on 1364 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 1: Twitter saying that's a bunch of nonsense. And I have 1365 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 1: found over the years when there's weird things coming out 1366 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, it's for a reason, and usually when 1367 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: Sean Payton is going out of his way to deny things. Uh, 1368 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: usually it's the Saints that are putting out that story 1369 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: in the first place, like something something that you know, 1370 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers are so tough sometimes because they're so volatiles 1371 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 1: at times personality wise, And it seems to me with 1372 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: the smoke that's coming out of there is that this 1373 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,400 Speaker 1: guy is causing issues behind the scenes. You don't find 1374 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: the latest hamstring hamstring tweak, then I don't know, he 1375 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 1: could be banged up, but I Mike Florio reported um 1376 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 1: on NBC tonight what you were just saying, Greg that 1377 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: they kind of potentially were floating Thomas before the trade deadline, 1378 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and now this injury kind of has thrown cold water 1379 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 1: on that. And uh, I mean, this guy set the 1380 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: all time catch record last year. This guy had been 1381 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,679 Speaker 1: the most productive wide receiver since Antonio Brown. Oh yeah, 1382 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, another all world talent that's personality and off 1383 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 1: the field issues torpedoed his career until recently. Now, I mean, 1384 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 1: it's it is very interesting to see how this plays out. 1385 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: And it is weird that the injury stuff wrapped around 1386 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 1: me the punch. I mean, it's they're also still like 1387 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: sneaky two months away from probably Drew Brees walking away 1388 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: and becoming the notre dame announcer and looking themselves at 1389 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 1: least on offense in a pretty deep rebuild. I mean, 1390 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: he was healthy enough to be practicing to get into 1391 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 1: a fight with the car I don't know, you know 1392 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 1: what I mean, And that was like three weeks ago, 1393 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 1: so that, yeah, yeah, Mark, does that Does that speak 1394 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 1: to you think Michael Thomas couldn't handle the struggles over rebuild? 1395 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,639 Speaker 1: Or is it the fact that because like that guy, 1396 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: a guy at that age that he was that good 1397 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: of a receiver, you would want that to be one 1398 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 1: of your key pieces, and I think he would too. 1399 01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be surprised that they trade him. But 1400 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 1: when you throw in the fact that he's punching teammates, 1401 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and that's the part of the story that we know, 1402 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: there might be the experience of Michael Thomas becoming a 1403 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: little bit too much for everyone. If there was ever 1404 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 1: a player that were to unfollow his team on Twitter 1405 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: and Instagram after an O and two start with a 1406 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: new quarterback that's struggling, it is Michael Thomas. Maybe they're 1407 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 1: trying to get ahead of this. The unfollowed. That's a 1408 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,560 Speaker 1: good call. All right, let's move on. There was a 1409 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 1: there was a false alarm unfollowing on Twitter and Instagram 1410 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 1: today of Harrison Smith and the Vikings. I want everyone 1411 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 1: to know that it was out there that Harrison Smith 1412 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 1: had unfollowed the Vikings on his social but it then 1413 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: was later learned via reporting that he in fact had 1414 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 1: never followed the Vikings in the first place. So everyone 1415 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,680 Speaker 1: stand down. Harrison Smith is not on his way out 1416 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. Now we move on. I got to get 1417 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 1: that out there. Greg Coms rose right sideline for guiding, 1418 01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 1: caught right sideline Ted Giten to the touchdown Chargers Herbert 1419 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: to Giten seventy yards just too much speed, Matt Money 1420 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,560 Speaker 1: Smith Daniel Jarremiah with a call k Y s R. 1421 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 1: Man Money has got a n DJ have a front 1422 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,960 Speaker 1: row seed for something special here justin Herbert is a 1423 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,799 Speaker 1: man on fire. The super rookie went off with another 1424 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 1: big passing game, also set a charges rushing record for 1425 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks uh four touchdowns, including that game winner at the 1426 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Guiten win over the Jacks at Hollywood Park. Herbert 1427 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 1: finally gets that elusive first win, but we all know 1428 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,639 Speaker 1: he's played well enough to win a bunch of games already. Shook, 1429 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: this kid looks like an instant Stars is a huge 1430 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,919 Speaker 1: story in the league. You know, I was really startled. 1431 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean we followed the league from each week obviously, 1432 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,680 Speaker 1: but I was just startled for a moment when I 1433 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 1: was watching the end of the game today and heard 1434 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 1: the broadcast say, and Justin Herbert officially has his first 1435 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 1: career in because you think he's been playing well for 1436 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: a month, like that type of performance from a quarterback 1437 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,160 Speaker 1: usually leads to victories, and yet the Charges have found 1438 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 1: ways to lose and and have you know, had some 1439 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 1: close calls. So I was like, wow, that really is 1440 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 1: his first career win, but it's it's the first of many. 1441 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean at this point, some of the passes that 1442 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 1: he threw today were just absolute times, and he seems 1443 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 1: to be getting better with more experience week by week. 1444 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of in the mold of Joe Burrow. But 1445 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Burrow looked better from the start I think, or has been. 1446 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if they started he was here and 1447 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,680 Speaker 1: he keeps going up. Um, but they're both improving on 1448 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 1: a weekly basis and it's really exciting to watch, and 1449 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 1: especially for a Chargers team that I mean when when 1450 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: we entered this season, we didn't know what they were 1451 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 1: getting out of him. They kind of took Justin Herbert 1452 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 1: because he was the guy after Tua and they had 1453 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,639 Speaker 1: Tyrode as the bridge quarterback, and you didn't know when 1454 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Herbert was going to see the field at all. There 1455 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 1: was some thought that he wouldn't see the field at 1456 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 1: all this season, and yet he comes out and he's 1457 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: playing like like a stud. So it's really exciting. The 1458 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 1: thing that is interesting to me is like you watch 1459 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: his touchdown run, which was I mean his arm set 1460 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,320 Speaker 1: up that run because because they didn't know what to 1461 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: do with him, and it's like, okay, I mean from 1462 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 1: a team planning angle, they wanted Tyrod Taylor to red 1463 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 1: shirt this season for Herbert because also he's um and 1464 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn favorite because he's a mobile scrambler and in 1465 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 1: fun on the grounds, like sorry, Justin Herbert can do 1466 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 1: basically anything on the ground that Tyrod Taylor today is 1467 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna do for you, and he can do a billion 1468 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 1: more things through the air. I just wonder how they 1469 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,080 Speaker 1: scouted him beforehand, I mean to the eye. He is 1470 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 1: a complete wonder. Well you gotta pay I don't. You 1471 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: can't know until they're in the games. I feel like, yeah, 1472 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 1: when when coaches say like we will love we love 1473 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,600 Speaker 1: this guy in practice, like that's why Colin Kaepernick is 1474 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 1: replacing Alex Smith, it's like, oh, well, coaches are with 1475 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: him all week long. So it's kind of like, could 1476 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 1: bend it anyway you want? I mean, well, you think 1477 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: they've they struggled to evaluate just how awkward is it 1478 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 1: for Daniel Jeremiah having to call these games. I'm sure 1479 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: he's like interviewing with Justin Herbert and he has to 1480 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 1: be like, oh, sorry, bro, I had you ranked twenty 1481 01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 1: in my top fifty rankings behind and Drew Thomas struggling 1482 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: weekly behind Kenneth Murray and thanks in your world DJ versation. Well, 1483 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean Herbert knows. I mean he's analyst. He's a 1484 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 1: great behind Ross Blacklock. I don't even know if he 1485 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 1: went in the first two rounds um graded behind all 1486 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 1: those guys. And here's one of the greatest quarterbacks as 1487 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: a rookie we've ever seen a lot of what a 1488 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:32,519 Speaker 1: hit piece by y I can done it, but um, 1489 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 1: anything else on this game shook than the Herbert. Well, 1490 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: on the Herbert point, I think the one thing that 1491 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 1: has helped him so far as he's doing a lot 1492 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: of the things that he did well at Oregon, including running. 1493 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, anybody remembers that Rose Bowl win that he 1494 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 1: closed his organ career with. I mean, that's a prime 1495 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: example of basically what has helped him through the first 1496 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, five weeks that he's played football in the NFL. 1497 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 1: So you know, I think you're right on not figuring 1498 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 1: out where these guys are headed. But at the same 1499 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 1: time they get out there just kind of do with thing. Now. 1500 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: Jacksonville wise, there was some rumbling about Gardner Minshew, right, um, 1501 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 1: who is gonna lose his job? He was okay, I 1502 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 1: mean he had a couple of touchdown pass the day, 1503 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 1: hundred seventy three yards. He kept him in the game. 1504 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 1: But then it was the same Gardner Minshew outcome at 1505 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 1: the end fourth and two, he gets the conversion fourth 1506 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 1: and eight, he misses an open DJ Shark by five yards, 1507 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 1: and that was basically the ballgame. So you're ceiling is low. Sure, 1508 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 1: it's exciting from time to time, but these Jaguars, we 1509 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: know they're not really going anywhere they're gonna play. How 1510 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,560 Speaker 1: is it? How is the head coach today floating that 1511 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,680 Speaker 1: story out there to our reporters saying that we're going 1512 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 1: to We're We've made a decision that Mike Lennon will 1513 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 1: give us a better chance when when they're down thirty 1514 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 1: nine and they need, you know, points when he's trying 1515 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 1: to push the ball downfield. You can see the frustration 1516 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 1: on the receivers on the two misses he had there. 1517 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's just a limited guy when 1518 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: you have to open it up a little bit. But 1519 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 1: they're certainly in the tank for Trevors. So stakes at 1520 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: one and six, now off six straight losses. Now Sunday 1521 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Night Football, Sunday nine, can you make this one? It 1522 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:21,679 Speaker 1: is in a sixty nine minute at forty five second game. 1523 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 1: It is the only time that Arizonas had to lose 1524 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,759 Speaker 1: Al Michael's with the call friend BC Zane Gonzalza tones 1525 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,600 Speaker 1: for his error at the end of regulation when he 1526 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,519 Speaker 1: shanked a forty one yard or hitting the forty eight 1527 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 1: yarder in ot Arizona Cardinals thirty seven, Seattle Seahawks thirty 1528 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 1: four and a thriller the Cardinals improved to five into 1529 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,559 Speaker 1: the Seahawks finally lose their first game of the year. 1530 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 1: They fall to five and one. Uh shook. This one 1531 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: was wild. The Seahawks seemed to have it in hand. 1532 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 1: They were up thirty four with less than six minutes 1533 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 1: to play. Uh they are unable to close the game 1534 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,799 Speaker 1: out on defense and no surprise there, and then unable 1535 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 1: to take advantage of there are opportunities when Russell Wilson 1536 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,640 Speaker 1: was on the field. Yeah, I felt like once the 1537 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,400 Speaker 1: scramble to get it to second and short at the 1538 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 1: two minute warning, it was basically, well, you know, they 1539 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 1: get this first down and it's all but over and 1540 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 1: then you know, Arizona gets to stop and suddenly have 1541 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 1: a ball game. But even at that point, the Cardinals 1542 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 1: still have to go down the field. I mean, there 1543 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 1: was there was. It was such an unlikely and I 1544 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 1: haven't looked at the probability metric on for next Gen 1545 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 1: in this game, but I'm worked up. I'm sure it 1546 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 1: just shot down because like this was unlikely. This was 1547 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 1: definitely unlikely. But I mean it speech to the moxy 1548 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,400 Speaker 1: and the the ability of of a young guy like 1549 01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to be able to leave it, and also 1550 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 1: the Larry Fitzgerald forgetting the ball to the center in 1551 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,000 Speaker 1: order for them to snap in times. People love that 1552 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 1: love that unlikely. It was insane. How did they They 1553 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,599 Speaker 1: blew the Seahawks blew this game a thousand different ways. 1554 01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,360 Speaker 1: The Cardinals, you know, tried to um in over time 1555 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,680 Speaker 1: a couple of different times too, But there were so 1556 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 1: many parts of this game that was that were absolutely insane. 1557 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the inverse of that six six 1558 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Seahawks game, which happened when I was in London 1559 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 1: and you guys weren't. I remember it ended up like 1560 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,240 Speaker 1: five in the morning and there was a gate all year. 1561 01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: Was that like the worst game of the year or 1562 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 1: the best game? Like this one tonight. It was sloppy 1563 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:24,840 Speaker 1: as hell, but it was the best game of the year. 1564 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: And I go back, um like to that overtime period 1565 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 1: or what set it up rather and the decision from 1566 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and you mentioned uh Nick shook that Russell 1567 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 1: Wilson scrambled to set up a second and short where 1568 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 1: all they need is two yards to to finish off 1569 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 1: the game, and the first run loses yardage and I 1570 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,960 Speaker 1: and I was. I remember thinking like, are they going 1571 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,040 Speaker 1: to have the guts to throw the ball here? Because 1572 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 1: if they throw the ball here, they're gonna win the game. 1573 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,640 Speaker 1: And I don't kill them for running it there. But 1574 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 1: you went run, run, run in that spot, you went backwards. 1575 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 1: In the end. It was like the only time all 1576 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 1: year where they didn't have the guts. And Kyler Murray 1577 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 1: directs one of the craziest uh late minute regulation drives 1578 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,120 Speaker 1: I've ever seen fifty four seconds where they had two 1579 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 1: designed runs. They spiked it three different times. Uh. You 1580 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 1: never seen something like that, And it was really like 1581 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 1: courageous and smart. And then Cliff Kingsbury did as much 1582 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 1: as he could in overtime to make us think they're 1583 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily courageous and smart or in or in regulation, 1584 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:32,320 Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, had that gone down poorly 1585 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, you've got the talking point that Zene 1586 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,719 Speaker 1: Gonzalez kicked the would be uh game winning but would 1587 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 1: be not game winning field goal on second down, which 1588 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing that what you with, especially with 1589 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 1: the kickers, like the last thing they do is all 1590 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 1: we remember and it wipes out all these other storylines. Um. 1591 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 1: But I will say I will footnote this by saying 1592 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 1: that I thought that one of the biggest things that 1593 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 1: that Arizona did in regulation and the overtime period was 1594 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,880 Speaker 1: UM getting to Russell Wilson. That Byron murphy sack was huge. 1595 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, coming off a regulation period that saw them, 1596 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, combined for nine two yards. The minute this game, UM, 1597 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 1: the minute that the Bucks Raiders was moved out of 1598 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 1: this slot in Arizona seatll got moved in. UM, We've 1599 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 1: been through this enough. A mental note UM rolled through 1600 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: my mind that said, you will be up at least 1601 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: an extra hour and twenty minutes that you would have 1602 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 1: been up. Um, Cliff Kingsbury there, I'm sure we'll have 1603 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 1: a victory Monday. On Tuesday morning at the team meeting, 1604 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,560 Speaker 1: he should have Rolex watches for everyone on the Arizona 1605 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 1: defense for bailing his ass out UH on this game, 1606 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,640 Speaker 1: because Yeah, I could not get over it, and I 1607 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,760 Speaker 1: couldn't believe Alan Chris are usually still locked in on things. 1608 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,519 Speaker 1: Didn't even make any note of it that he settled 1609 01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: for the forty one yard field goal second right after 1610 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 1: a five yard loss. It was a reminder that head 1611 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 1: coaches can lose their nerve too in a really big spot, 1612 01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 1: and I think that's what happened. Uh, sorry, I think 1613 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,280 Speaker 1: that's what happened here. Uh. He they lost five on 1614 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,479 Speaker 1: a run and he just said, okay, send Zane out there. 1615 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 1: He lost and you and what you would he really 1616 01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: failed to realize is that the Seattle defense was guessed. 1617 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,800 Speaker 1: Even Kalsworth was making note of it, that these guys 1618 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,519 Speaker 1: were done and all you gotta do is run it. 1619 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,560 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna damn was gonna break either for a 1620 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,639 Speaker 1: game ending touchdown or for another five, ten, fifteen yards. Instead, 1621 01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 1: he brings up Gonzalez and he misses the kick. But yeah, 1622 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 1: I was really surprised. So a good job by the 1623 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Arizona defense for like Mark said, getting to Wilson in 1624 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 1: overtime and at the end of regulation and in general 1625 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,200 Speaker 1: Seattle's offense, which has been so unstoppable. Uh, they end 1626 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 1: the game going punt punt interception. Uh that was not 1627 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,960 Speaker 1: expected either, and the interception was crazy, Like they didn't 1628 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,479 Speaker 1: really discuss that either. Because Isaiah Simmons, a top ten 1629 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 1: pick who's barely played this year. He played under five 1630 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 1: snaps tonight, and one of those snaps was that interception. 1631 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Because Arizona was so injured by the end, Russell Wilson 1632 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 1: just threw that to no one. There's no receivers anywhere 1633 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 1: remotely here. The pressure was coming and and they had 1634 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,639 Speaker 1: blitzed them advanced Joseph, give him, give him some credit 1635 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,280 Speaker 1: for coming up with these crazy blitzes. And overtime they 1636 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 1: just cooked him up. Russ was cooked like he lost 1637 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,640 Speaker 1: his mind a little bit. I I wrote that I 1638 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 1: don't want to go on too long, but this game 1639 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,439 Speaker 1: was so insane. I just like wrote down. I was 1640 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 1: starting to, like, you know, right down like a top 1641 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 1: five plays from this game because this game was so incredible, 1642 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 1: and then it got longer and longer. Here are the 1643 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 1: things that this in no order, but here are things 1644 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,599 Speaker 1: that happened in this game. Uh, Kyler Murray being cool 1645 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,439 Speaker 1: enough to smile when he sees sees Hopkins one on 1646 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 1: one and then throw a touchdown to him. The three 1647 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throws to lock it, We're all insane. The 1648 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,920 Speaker 1: one hander to start the game was one of the 1649 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,879 Speaker 1: best catches of the year. The bomb touchdown was ridiculous, 1650 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 1: and the in the touchdown on fourth down to lock 1651 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,600 Speaker 1: it was just like that two point conversion in the 1652 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,679 Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship, that alone was amazing. That Kyler 1653 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Murray scramble touchdown where he just you know, joked them 1654 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 1: out of their shorts was outrageous. The Kyler drive we 1655 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 1: mentioned to force overtime, Kingsbury's brain fire Simmons is uh interception. 1656 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 1: And then almost the biggest thing was I thought the 1657 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks one on a on a game winning touchdown and 1658 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 1: overtime that was over same game and you didn't even 1659 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,479 Speaker 1: mention the Bens in Myowa unsportsmanlike conduct that took the 1660 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 1: field goal off the board and allowed Arizona to get 1661 01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,400 Speaker 1: the touchdown instead that then set up the game tying 1662 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,400 Speaker 1: field goal at the end of regulation. I mean, that's 1663 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 1: Seattle has been dancing with the devil all season, I 1664 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,960 Speaker 1: think with their defense, and they've gotten away with it 1665 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 1: a couple of games. It finally came back to haunt 1666 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 1: them too. I think that's something to take out of 1667 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 1: this game as well, that they're gonna remain vulnerable, uh, 1668 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 1: even with a great Russell Wilson, as long as this 1669 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,160 Speaker 1: defense cannot make stands. Yeah, you know, you bring the 1670 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: Bens and Myowa thing is huge because we could point 1671 01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: scapeboats out of a bunch of different people here. I 1672 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 1: mean we could we could go to Brian Schotheimer for 1673 01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 1: calling not only did they go run, run, run, And 1674 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 1: you're fine with that, Greg, I was fine with that too. 1675 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,760 Speaker 1: They called the same play three times. It was a 1676 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 1: stretched round of the right three times. Do you think 1677 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 1: the third time they might actually anticipate a little bit 1678 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:09,680 Speaker 1: and try to shoot the gap, which is exactly what 1679 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 1: they did, stuffing him in the hole. I mean, Carlos 1680 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 1: hides on a guy who necessarily gets stuffed like that. 1681 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,639 Speaker 1: They knew that was coming and and so you can 1682 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 1: point him as escapegoat to keep my oas escapegoat if 1683 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,920 Speaker 1: you go down the line. But I think the one 1684 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: thing that really stands out to me about this entire 1685 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 1: game is centers on Kyler Murray and it centers on 1686 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,879 Speaker 1: the fact that he's been doing this like like scrambling 1687 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 1: for the touchdown for example. It's almost a near weekly thing. Now. 1688 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that he's I don't know 1689 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 1: if you would say added to his arsenal or whatever, 1690 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: but it's something that's helping their offense reach that next level. 1691 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 1: But what we haven't seen him do is do it 1692 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,479 Speaker 1: in a position like tonight where he had to go 1693 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 1: down the field where you had to leave a drive 1694 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 1: lead a drive like that, and they had to execute 1695 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 1: on every single play. You found a way too. And 1696 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,599 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is really a turning 1697 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 1: point for them, but it's really encouraging because we had 1698 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 1: some high hopes for them. They kind of, you know, 1699 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 1: they hit a lall early in the season. They're coming 1700 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 1: on strong now and and it's it's a lot of fun. Well, 1701 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 1: we called it a doorway game on Thursday, and that's 1702 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,880 Speaker 1: my word for it, because nick I thought the same 1703 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 1: thing about Cleveland facing like Pittsburgh, Like you go through 1704 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,760 Speaker 1: that doorway, you show that you can get through, then 1705 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,840 Speaker 1: we think about you differently. And I think about that. 1706 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, I know that they beat Seattle last year, 1707 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 1: but that's last year. I mean this this after after 1708 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,719 Speaker 1: you know, a two or three weeks sort of semi 1709 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,759 Speaker 1: funk where I wasn't sure what to think about Arizona's offense. 1710 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 1: I come out of this completely different than This game 1711 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,400 Speaker 1: also was a study in variance because how different football 1712 01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 1: games can be. Like we talked about the Cardinal, the 1713 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 1: Carolina New Orleans game had four teen possessions, seven each. 1714 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of unusual. This had possessions, I mean, and 1715 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,640 Speaker 1: it looked like it's the point where if you were 1716 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 1: one of the lost Soul being asked to write the 1717 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 1: what we learned for this, I would have I would 1718 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,400 Speaker 1: have like literally run out of the building at this 1719 01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 1: point because I don't do well with those things. And 1720 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,600 Speaker 1: there was like seventy five different plot points. Please to 1721 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,960 Speaker 1: Grant Gordon, who's writing this, thank you one of the 1722 01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,439 Speaker 1: great guys on the desk and NFL dot Com. Yeah, 1723 01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 1: there's only a handful of special quarterbacks in the league, 1724 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,479 Speaker 1: and we got to see two of them tonight. Just 1725 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 1: a wild game. All right. That's Week seven Sunday, Look 1726 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,080 Speaker 1: at us, Look at us almost mid season. Now we're 1727 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,559 Speaker 1: flying along. Coming up this week on UH the Around 1728 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,600 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, we're going to dive deep with the 1729 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 1: trade deadline coming up UH Tuesday show, we'll have our 1730 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,880 Speaker 1: preview for a week eight of course, and then the 1731 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 1: NFL Network program, which you should DVR or watch live 1732 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:34,599 Speaker 1: Saturday mornings UH every week, so check that out. Shook 1733 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,280 Speaker 1: Thank you as always, and now we're all going including 1734 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 1: show who's it's very late in downtown Cleveland. But he's 1735 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 1: gonna hop on a red eye and we're all gonna 1736 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,600 Speaker 1: go straight to Ricky Hollywood's apartment to protect her. So 1737 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 1: we are. We're just getting started tonight, Nicky. We're coming 1738 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 1: for you baby. Yeah. For a little update, Um, the 1739 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,360 Speaker 1: person does not live there. Tech text of the Landlord. 1740 01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 1: The cops have been here. It's been quite the quite 1741 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,920 Speaker 1: the Sunday Night Escapade. We're gonna form a human wall. 1742 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 1: That's why I'm coming out. I'm gonna be in the 1743 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,200 Speaker 1: middle or on the edge, and me and Dan will 1744 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: be in the edge. Greg and Mark in the middle. Yeah, 1745 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:16,679 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna yell at them, like annoy them 1746 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,599 Speaker 1: until our shields will be frozen. Our shields will be frozen. 1747 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:26,680 Speaker 1: Pizzas nice alright, Ricky, stay safe and all seriousness. Um, 1748 01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,200 Speaker 1: all right, this is Dan Hands is signing off for 1749 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,760 Speaker 1: oh we I asked the listeners to come up with 1750 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 1: a nickname for Nick Shook. I'm gonna debut it next 1751 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Sunday Night, so on that one. So Stan Hands is 1752 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 1: signing off four the Unshakable Nick Shook, the Quiet Storm, 1753 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood in West Hollywood, Stay 1754 01:31:50,760 --> 01:32:02,560 Speaker 1: safe until Tuesday. Don't safe, don't spit the stoy S