WEBVTT - Ronny Chieng 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.160 The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascal Stand Up Tour continues throughout 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.440 twenty twenty four. For a full list of dates and tickets, 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.680 go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.800 See you out there, the Greig Ferguson show dot com 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:19.079 slash Tour. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.880 this podcast is Joy. I talk to interest in people 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:30.560 about what brings them happiness. Today on the podcast, my 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:39.080 guest is Ronnie Cheng. He's a Chinese Malaysian American comedian who. 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.040 Is a huge He's huge. He's like blowing up all 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:43.680 over the place. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.880 He's like the biggest deal on the Internet and TV. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.480 He's very, very, very funny and very interesting. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:01:01.560 Here he is. That's a bearing night watch. Thank you. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.280 I kind of like I got it, Brightling, Brightling, the 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:11.160 watch of white guys people. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.400 No, no, no, white guys, no whit guys. I don't 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.360 think white guys are anything brightly really yeah, yeah, I 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.920 think like people who I don't care about watches, but 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.520 in a cool way, not in an ignorant way, you know, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:24.840 like I'll just war you know. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.640 I want to see I have to watches. Yeah, there 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.800 you go, and they're both brightly. Yeah you don't care. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.880 It's not that I don't care. Yeah, I don't care 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:35.319 about in the. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:41.000 Cool way absolutely. All right, all right, let me. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.520 I wanted to ask you something before we start, because 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.520 I mean I watched I've watched a law of your stuff. Oh, 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.800 thank you, and it's very funny. I want to talk 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:55.760 to you about Australia. Oh please, because you. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.480 Went to you went to school in Australia, right, you 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.520 went to university and I only went to law school there. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.840 But which I you know, it's undergraduate, right, I went 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.160 to undergrad law school there. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.639 So are you are your lawyer? Then? Yeah? I passed 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:06.600 the buy in Australia. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.799 Yeah, so but you can only do in Australia, which 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:13.399 is like sheep, yeah, it's all it's all criminals anyway. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:14.680 So yeah yeah yeah. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.959 But what happened in Australia I think is that if 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.000 you can trace yourself back to the original criminals, that's 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:22.480 actually cool now, right. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.160 Or oh no, it's cool if you're them, right. They 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.440 may it sound cool, but it's not cool. I don't 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.040 think it's cool. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:30.920 Well, they had they had a pretty bad. They get 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.960 a pretty bad record, I think so. Yeah, I'm not scared. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:35.400 Yeah, I'm the only one who will say, you know, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.960 everyone else's everyone else either it doesn't know about it 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:39.760 or bassing it. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.280 I'm like, yeah, you guys, kind of it was pretty bad. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:43.360 It was not a good time. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.600 No, it was pretty I mean they just kind of 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.480 wiped out everybody who was there, wiped out. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:52.200 Never never formed a symbiosis Indigenous, not that anyone really did, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.400 but you know, at least at least uh the Maori's 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.400 I think they had a treaty. Yes, you know, and 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.680 you can when you go to New Zealand, Maori's on 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.320 the money. Yeah, you know Mari language, you come in 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.720 to greet you in MARII. You know, the the Mari 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.880 art is kind of embedded into society New Zealand. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:10.120 You know. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.280 Australia, they not so much. They didn't do a good 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.080 job of I wouldn't think. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:15.840 I would when I was in Australian I've never been 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.600 in Australia sober so I haven't been there. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.280 I've been in a long time. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.919 But I worked with an Australian comedian called Ernie Dango. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:23.840 Do you know Erny danger. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.480 I heard of Erny Dingo. Yeah, Erny Dango is cool. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.760 He's an Aboriginal comedian. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:29.960 Please continue. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.760 Well, I'm just saying I worked with him, but you 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.840 didn't know them. So no, I've heard of him, but 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.320 you're not. I'm not trying different generation. I'm not trying 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.520 to dick here. You've got a couple of generations on me. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.960 I came on this podcast to talk to you, honestly 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.560 because I want to hear about these stories. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.040 Well, when when were you? When did you hear anything time? 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.240 The kaiser was a massive his arms on the border. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.280 When did you mean Ernie did Dingo circumstances we were? 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.320 I was at the Melbourne Comedy first, Yes, my home festival. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.960 Really yes, And I don't think I want to talk 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.600 to you about right, Okay, So I was at Melbourne 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.480 Comedy Festival and an area called Fitzroy. Yes, what year 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.080 is this? Roughly got it would be about nineteen eighty seven, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.160 eighty eight. It's freaking that's too crazy, right, it's too long. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.080 I know, that's way too nuts. He worked with another 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.200 Australian Communian called Anthony Morgan. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:13.720 You know Anthony. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.640 I know him very well. You know I talked to 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.800 him all the time. I make his website. He's a 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.760 great he's a great comedian, great guy. He exited the 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.520 game a little bit. He moved to Tasmania. Lives kind 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.479 of off the grid, but he okay, she's kind of 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.159 an off the grid sort of a guy. Even in 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.880 the eighties he was that was but I know that 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.400 he was a legendary. He was probably the original modern 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:35.840 Australian folk hero. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.640 Well, Anthony Morgan and I we used to play this 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.039 because we had we had this drinking game we used 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.559 to do and it was a place called the Last Laugh. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.000 Yes, Roy's still there. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.440 No, the Last Laugh moved to Collins Street, okay, at 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.080 the Athenaeum, right, you. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.640 Know, and remember the Athnyum. Doug Anthony ol stars used 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.320 to play there. I know Doug was a right and 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.760 and and then unfortunate. So it was a comedy club 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:04.240 in Collins Street when I started, right and then unfortunately 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.440 closed down, But it had Australia at that time. I 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.680 had a certainly in the eighties, which is you were 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.360 probably being born. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.840 Then I was born. I was just born. You born. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:20.720 You were a tiny little beeB fucked up with yes, yeah, 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.159 well that's great. Please I don't interrupt you. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.760 But no, no, please interrupt me because I can do 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:26.440 this podcast. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.240 So I gotta do this one with you without you. No. 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.040 Because So I started doing comedy in Australia in two 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.400 thousand and nine, right, so I was too late. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:39.640 It felt pretty late to me. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.400 I started when I was twenty four, right, Yeah, I 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:44.080 stot twenty four. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.279 I think I was a good age to start. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.800 You know. I wasn't ahead of the curve, but I 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.800 wasn't behind it, I think. And I because I'm a 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.599 fan of comedy. I just love comedy history. And because 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.440 I started in Australia, I have a fondness for Australian 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.880 comedy history. That's why when you say these names, it's like, 0:05:59.920 --> 0:06:01.680 I know, to use not even history to you, that's 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:02.120 just your cure. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.400 But I am not a liv history. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:10.160 I'm like Colonial Williams, but as a person. But the 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.000 thing is, Anthony Morgan and I used to have this 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.279 but there was upstairs at the Prince pat and we 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.919 had this deal. We had to drink and you weren't 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.000 allowed to have anything in your head when you go 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.200 to the microphone, and you. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:22.919 Had to do it ten minutes. Yeah, you guys are 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:23.920 crazy that it was. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.200 I don't know that it was good, but it was 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:31.080 well Morgan, Anthony Morgan comes from this very prolific type 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:31.640 of comic. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:33.080 That category. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.520 There's there's some geniuses in the world who are just 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.440 they just go on stage and you know, for me, 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.479 comedy takes so much work and it's scary and I 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.080 have to work at it for months and months and 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.600 months and hopefully I'll have five minutes that's good or decent. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.800 But for some people it's just like they're so prolific 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.039 that it just comes and goes. And part of that tradition, 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.560 I think is like an Edinburgh thing. Yeah, that's you know, 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.600 because I've been to Edinburgh for festival. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.880 I've done it a few times, right, and so you know, 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.679 and Anthony went there and that it is so because 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.200 I was touched with him after Australia. I don't know, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.960 I like, because I'm still drinking then and I got 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.520 so I'm so glad. I can you give me a 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.960 reason to message him again? I'll just be like, he's maybe, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.560 I would say, maybe the best stand up I've ever 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:16.040 seen see. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.440 I hear legends of this, I hear legends of this, 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.080 and unfortunately it was a time before you know, writing 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.200 was invented, so there's no record of any of this. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.800 There's some high hieroglyphics, there's some hieroglyphic, but there's no 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:31.360 record of this. 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.960 But this is all I hear because he was to 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.640 ground this in a bit of facts. He I think 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.600 the is fair to say the biggest comedy management company 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.160 in Australia is Token Token Management, and the guy who 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.480 founded is Kevin White. And Kevin White, so he imagined 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.840 this guy who founded the most successful comedy management company 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.120 in the country. He when he was eighteen, he managed 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:52.920 Anthony Morgan. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:53.600 Wow. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.000 So meaning this wasn't this is not just a case 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.080 of comic saying someone's good. This guy was commercially he 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.080 was considered the best. You know he was he was. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.280 But he was he was. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:08.000 I remember we had a couple of nights and and 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.400 you know he he was pretty pretty wild. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.440 Oh he was when I met him. He was in 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.160 my sitcom. He was in my sitcom. Yeah, so I 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.720 knew of him before, but I wrote this sitcom about 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.800 being a student intersral student. Yeah, and I wrote him 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.920 a part. I mean it kind of came organically. Wasn't 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.880 like I was out looking to write him a part, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:33.360 but of the kind of weary, bitter law lecturer and 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.920 my co writer Declan Faye, also Australian, he suggests Anthony 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.920 Morgan for this. I was like, yeah, that's that's great. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.360 So we had him in and I was a bit 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.800 worried because I never met him before. I thought maybe 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.480 he'd be like, don't come at me with your stupid 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.520 you know, whatever your new ideas are. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.400 I don't care about this. You know who I was 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.720 at all. He came very collaborative, he got it. He 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:55.240 was down. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.440 He played with us, very very down to earth, you know. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:00.520 But he but he in. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.320 Essentially he lives off the green Tasmania. I'm pretty sure built. Yeah, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:07.920 I'm not not pretty sure. I know for a fact 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.600 he built his own house with his own hands. And 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.199 then he'll go and do the local pub gig every 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.520 few months, and I'll kind of harass him to like 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:21.000 record it, or I'll harass him to digitalize cassette that 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.080 he's recorded from years. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.800 A funny because he's kind of like, you know, like 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.000 in the movies where they have to go and get 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:31.000 the detective, you know, and he's retired, but he works 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.679 on his boat and they say, you're the only guy 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.440 that Morgan's kind of like that as a comedian is 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.240 like I didn't give up on comedy. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.199 Comedy gave up on me. It's a bit of that. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.120 Yeah, and he I think he tried to come to 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.520 America and he I think he toured a bit in America. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.240 And I think there's a there's sun comics who know 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.080 him very well, you know, And so I'm so surprised 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:50.880 that you mentioned him. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.280 Yeah, you know, like I say, I think he may 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.760 be the I mean, look in my memory, he's the 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.360 He's the best I've ever seen. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.240 It's the fate of all legends to be forgot. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.000 Yes, but he's Yeah, he's still in Australia and I'll 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.960 put you guys to touch it. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:10.240 But how did you become a fan of comedy? Like 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:11.880 you grew up in Singapore? 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.600 Right, yes? So is there a big scene of comedy there? 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.920 Uh no, there was like a TV thing. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.199 I grew up in Singapore, but they had they have 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.760 their own type of comedy, you know, where it's not 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:29.480 stand up, it's kind of TV sketch, a little slapsticky, 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.400 there was one stand up comic in Australia, but. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.160 Uh, it wasn't. It's not a known thing. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.559 Sou Comedy is not a known tradition in Singapore right 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.040 the way it is in the UK or Scotland, Australia. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.679 You know, where it's very established. You know what you're 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.200 supposed to do. You go to the pub, you watch 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.000 a comic, right, you know how you're supposed to behave. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:48.560 But we don't have that. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.679 We don't have those norms. But when I started there, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.040 there wasn't. There was Billy. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.520 Conley and oh okay, well then maybe we're not so different. Yeah, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:55.439 maybe not so different. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.440 When I started in Scotland there was Billy Connley who 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:03.040 was huge, like Billy's twenty years old toy. Absolutely, and 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.240 then there was there were no comedy clubs. There was 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.320 no places to go, so you would go to like 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.520 a it would be like a music club or a 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.760 discord or something. For yo, is this that would be 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.839 like mid eighties mid eighties still okay? 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:15.120 Yeah. 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.280 In America they were the you know, they had the 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.200 all the comedity clubs, the guys with the piano key 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:20.880 ties and all that. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.800 But we didn't have any of that, you know, you 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:23.440 know what's interesting. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:28.520 I was, I'm very lucky to meet Jerry Seinfeld and 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.760 I got to ask him. I asked him about this, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.319 and he said the same thing as you did. He 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.440 said when he started, there was nothing that's right. I 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.160 think he I think he's he said he said, and 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.120 he wasn't he you know, I don't think he was 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.720 saying he definitely wasn't saying this to just be arrogant. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.439 He was just saying like we were the ones who 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.600 started it. He's not in the rooms. Him and Lano 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.600 at the time as well. I mean, these guys, Uh, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:50.559 do you ever meet Lano? 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:50.880 No? 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.440 No, man, Lano's an interesting guy. Not many people know 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:55.679 how good a stand up. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.319 Yes he is. I believe that. I believe he's a 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.600 great stand up. He really is. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.360 Robinson at the Seller will always tell me how good. 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.439 I did some dates with Jay this summer. We did 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.920 this like old dudes of late night thing that's funny, funny. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.160 It was great funny Me and Jay in our senior hall. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.480 Jackie Mason was great. I met. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.800 He's lovely, lovely and another great stand up. I mean, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.320 it's like but it's not I think stand up is 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.840 a little bit like like playing electric guitar. There's a 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.280 lot of people who are good at it, but you've 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:37.160 got to have something that's maybe just a little different. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.400 I mean, make you stand out. Yeah, that's all. That's 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:41.079 all I think. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:41.559 I know what. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.040 You're right, So what was it with you? 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.560 You think that they made you because you have to 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.360 do this thing. I think all stand ups have to 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.480 do this. You go on stage and you dine it 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.960 doesn't work. And that's the when you do that, like 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.480 a real stand up laughs when you say that, because 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.160 that's what Because I remember the first time that happened 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.760 to me, and when I was terrible, and when I 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.840 came over when people were going on, I'm sorry that happened, 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:06.760 I was like, oh. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.880 No, I got to do that. I can't. I got 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:09.520 to do it again. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.679 And I think there's something about stand up comedians that 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.320 male female doesn't matter. It's like you're drawn to that 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:22.959 weird kind of love of Yes, failure is a failure. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.559 What is it? I don't know if that's ours. I 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.000 don't know if that's a level failure. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.800 I do think that I do think if I'm looking 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.080 for a common thread there, I would say that it's 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:40.080 probably that all the great comics I know don't think 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.199 that they're good at comedy, right, and so you naturally 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.560 think that you're bad shit. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:46.840 Yeah. 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.679 And so when you bomb, if you feel like, oh yeah, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.559 I'm supposed to bomb, I'm not good at it, Yeah, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.280 you validate right, right, And then that's kind of how 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:55.920 you quote unquote be a good comic. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:57.360 That's a sign of being a good comic. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.280 Because when you not that you enjoy bombing, but you're 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.640 able to process in a way where of like, oh, yeah, 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:02.200 I'm not good. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.400 The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascals Stand Up Tour continues throughout 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:13.320 the United States in twenty twenty four. For a full 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.920 list of dates and tickets, go to the Craig Ferguson 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:24.120 show dot com slash tour. So you are there, My 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:28.160 wife has this theory that all stand up comedians have 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:33.280 the same type of mother. Oh interesting, it's cold with 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.160 bad boundaries. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:39.360 That's what she says, bad boundaries. That's pretty close. That's 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:39.800 pretty close. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.560 Did it to Lewis Black and he was like, oh 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:46.080 my god, that's like that, that's great, that's funny. He 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.320 said that he only Lewis said that he he only 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.600 made eye contact with his mom on or deathbed, but 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:52.680 she was one hundred. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:53.320 And four men. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.880 Oh man, But do you know it's kind of it 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:58.200 resonates a little bit. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.560 I mean, she met obviously my mom's past, but she 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.040 met my mom. She's like Jesus. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:08.520 And for the record, my mom is very warm, but 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.200 there is some no boundaries in there and can be 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:11.640 very harsh. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.560 My mom can be very harsh. So yeah, so you know, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.240 a different world for cold. Yeah, but it's that kind 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.920 of thing. It's like whenever whenever I see a good 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:19.600 stand up. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.480 Like their mom must be very tough. Yeah, very tough. Mom. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:26.840 My mom is tough. That's fair. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.320 Was she upset that you went in a stand up 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.600 because obviously, if you're going to law, that's one say 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:33.680 of expectations. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.200 You just say not to practice. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:39.840 Well, I had a few things to answer a question. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.120 She was not as upset as I thought she'd be. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.520 Wasn't It wasn't thrilled, but not upset. But one of 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.320 the few reasons for that was that we actually I 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.120 went to university in a different country, so she wasn't 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.920 even did. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.280 Yeah, I didn't tell her. I didn't make a big 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:56.920 deal about it. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.000 I just went to go do it because I kind 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.600 of instinctively knew like, hey, if this is going to 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.520 work for me, I kind of have to do it 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.160 on my own. I can't be you know, asking friends 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.120 to come. I can't be like, you know, making like. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.640 You never have friends. It's hilarious now now even now, 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.360 I don't want friends now. I don't like, I don't 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.440 even like my wife coming to that. Yeah, it's like, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.800 please don't because you know then for you, yeah, it'll 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.360 be in my hand. Yeah, yeah, it be in my 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:24.520 head that you're out there gone. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.760 And also comedy is like it's different to music in 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.000 that you have to be you have to want to 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.480 be there. You can't just be background. So if you 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:36.840 don't want to be there, just don't you know what 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:37.080 I mean. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.640 Have you done any corporate of course, yeah, because that's 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:42.760 when that's the taste. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.360 They don't want They don't really want you, but they 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:46.520 have anyway. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.920 Because it's corporates are so weird that they want you, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.400 but they don't. They sought you to come and p 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.760 they will pay you and they'll pay you money, but 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.560 they don't want you to be there. I know, it's 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.600 the weirdest gig. It's horrible, nobody wants she'll be there. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.600 I talked to a musician, very famous. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.760 I'm going to tell you what that you know, Josh 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.679 Homie from Queensland Stone Age, Right, Okay, they don't corporate 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.880 gigs anymore. He said the last time he did it, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.159 he was like playing down the front and there was 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:19.639 a natural cheese fountain and there was a woman taking 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.040 that and he was like, yeah, we can't do this. It's 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:23.560 not a rock and roll it's not it's. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:24.120 Not rock and roll. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.320 And you know, comedy and rock and roll are very 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.600 kind of countercultural. That's why it's it's at the Edinburgh 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.840 Fringe Festival. It's at the Fringe Festival, not the Edinburgh Festival. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.800 It's a fringe thing. Where did you Where did you 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:37.800 play in Edinburgh? 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:38.439 Underbelly? 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.800 Unfortunately I don't know where that is. Oh that's I 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.879 don't even know where that is. The Caves, the Caves. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.960 We started in Edinburgh in the eighty four, right, right, 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.400 and I did it for I guess until about early nineties. 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.080 I guess Edinburgh boy. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.560