1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday, 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: January twelfth. It is a glorious Friday, Ladies and gentlemen. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: The weekend is here. We have Super wild Card Weekend 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: six games, two on Saturday, three on Sunday, one on 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Monday night. Oh, it's gonna be great. And to help 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: preview it, we got a great guest on today's podcast, Ta, 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: faithful listeners of Straight Fire. Dating back to my radio show, 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: I think it started in twenty fifteen on Fox Sports Radio. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, jeez, I can't believe that's nine years ago now. Damn, 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: time really flies when you're having fun. Anyways, it started 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: talking to Ta on Twitter and he started coming on 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: the radio show every week and gambling. Now he's blowing 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: up big time. It's pretty awesome to, you know, talk 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: to people on the Internet and actually they're normal. They're 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: normal human beings. It's very rare, but it does happen anyways. 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: It just so happens world different sides for a lot 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: of games this weekend. Now, it's weird because when we 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: talk obviously you know what I do the Herd headline segment. 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: They just want me to pick winners and we talk 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: spread in you know, like for instance, heads up, shocker, 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm taking the Bills. I did bet the Bills, and 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: then Ta comes on is like, I don't know, man, 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm on the Steelers. Ten is a lot. Look at 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: that total, and yeah, you know, Buffalo has not been 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: overly imposing the last couple of weeks, and you're like, okay, 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: win game. Buffalo just wants to get either with the win. 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: If it's seventeen, you know, seventeen to three, Buffalo goes 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: into the prevent tee, Mason Rudolph maybe comes in with 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: the back door cover touchdown late. Buffalo doesn't care. They 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: just want to win. So, you know, it is a 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: big number, and I get that. I just I can 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: see Mason Rudolph choking in as badly in his first 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: cold game, in his first playoff game, in the wind 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: and cold in Buffalo, and I can see this being, 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, twenty three six Bills. Bill's steamroll Pittsburgh. At 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: any rate, we'll talk about that shortly. I did want 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: to open the pod with obviously the big news, which 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: drop Thursday morning ish. The legend, Bill Belichick stepping down 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: slash fired, depending on who you talk to or listened 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: to from the New England Patriots after a glorious run, 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: a two decade run. It's weird. I don't want to 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: parse words too much, but if you listen to so 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: Kraft took the podium, then Belichick, and then they said all, okay, 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: we'll take questions later on today. I was like, oh, 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: that's interesting. Clearly something not great happened and they just 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 2: wait and come out we're professionals. And then they were like, yeah, 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: I want to get the hell far away from the 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: other one. And it sounds again, this is just spitballing, 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: you know, reading reading the tea leaves, which we love 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: to do, is that Craft was unhappy with the direction 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: of things post Brady. This felt like rock bottom and 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: a good time to reset, and he wanted to make 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: some changes. Belichick, you know, had a year left on 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: his deal. Clearly thought like, I can turn this around. 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: I got to be a cap room. I got the 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: number two pick, and Craft is just like, no, thanks, 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: we're done. So now they're in a search for a 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: GM and a coach and we'll see what happens. It's 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: I had this funny thought. You know, you look around 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 2: the league and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Mike Vrabol got fired. Huh. And Bill Belichick is now 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: on the market. I know he's seventy two, but he's 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: on the market. And then Nick Saban up and retired 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: in Alabama. He's seventy two. Wow, market's pretty Oh, Jim 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: Harball may be leaving Michigan here in the next I 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: don't know, ninety six hours. It's like, damn all. Usually 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: it's slim pickings. It's like, oh, who do I want 70 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: to some retread? Don't want to take a chance on 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: a guy like Ebraflu's Do I want to take a 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: chance on an Eric b enemy? You know, you know, 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: you look back at Washington goes out in high there's 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: Ron Rivera a few years ago. It's like, what do 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: we do? Those are the options? Well, now, hell, you 76 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: look around the league and oh, damn Harball, Belichick, Rabel 77 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: and Nick Saban. 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: No. 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: I know, Nick Saban sounds like he's retiring and he's done, 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: And I get that. I totally get that. But if 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: you're an owner of a team and you've got to 82 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: say Matt Friggeniberflus as your head coach, you don't think 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: as the owner, you at least reach out to Jimmy Sexton, 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: the most powerful agent in the industry, and say, hey, 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: he is there a number that would entice Saban to 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: come here? Like do we even need to start a port? 87 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: Or is he done done? Like you got to make 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: that call, right, So then it gets a little more interesting, 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Like Saban Okay, college football, I get it. Maybe he's 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: just done done and he's gonna retire at Alabama. He's gonna 91 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: keep his office and he's gonna do some consulting, uh 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: for the school and the next coach and onboarding and 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: all that fun stuff. Okay, that's fair. Well what about Harball, 94 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Rabel and Belichick. If you're saying I don't know my 95 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: New York Jets and you're Woody Johns and you were like, 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: you know, a month ago we gave the vote of 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: confidence to Robert Salah, well holy shit, things have kind 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: of sort of changed. No, I could keep a coach 99 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: who's eighteen and thirty three a defensive guy eighteen and 100 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: thirty three, or I could kick the tires on Jim Harble. 101 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: He probably doesn't want to come to New York, but 102 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: I got at least call, don't I it's very rare 103 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: that like excellent coaches come on the market. Now. I 104 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: consider Rabel probably one of the best coaches to hit 105 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: the market because they were fired in a while. No, 106 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: I mean, remember Peyton stepped down, retired, went to TV 107 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: Like that wasn't fired. Like this is Mike Rabel on 108 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: the open market. That doesn't happen. And I don't think 109 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: you're doing your job as a billionaire owner to not 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: at least inquire about a guy like Mike Rabel or 111 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. And you got to wonder if there's a 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: lot of coaches around the league who are maybe a 113 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: little nervous that the market's kind of flooded with really 114 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: talented guys. You know, not only does Mike McCarthy have 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: to be wondering where the mindset is of his guy, 116 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn as Seattle bounces Pete Carroll and sounds like 117 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll may stay, but I don't know. There's a 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: lot of chatter that he doesn't want to be done. 119 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't be looking to get in the Pete 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Carroll business. But if you're like the Carolina Panthers and 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: you have zero culture and you're not going to be 122 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: getting anybody. Like there's no way Vrabel's going to Carolina 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: right to work with that owner. Like Tepper's not going 124 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: to have his pick of the litter. But if you're 125 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: a guy like Pete Carroll, not Pete Carroll's probably not 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: going to take it. He's a West Coast guy. I mean, 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: what happens if Tepper calls up and says, hey, Pete, 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: you know, we need a culture badly. I clearly have 129 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: no clue what they f I'm doing. I would love 130 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: it if you would come in and, you know, run 131 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: things here. What do you think is there a number 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: that interests you? I don't know. I don't know twenty 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: million years. I have no idea. Now I know he's 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: paying two fired coaches, but it's like, huh, I could 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: get Pete Carroll? Like what else are you look at it? 136 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: If you're Carolina. Ben Johnson's not going to Carolina. Sorry, guys, 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: it's not happening. Ben Johnson. He's in a great spot 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: in Detroit and he's only gonna leave for a really 139 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: really good head coaching job, like to work with Justin Herbert, 140 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: maybe to work with Caleb Williams. It's in the division, 141 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: so it seems unlikely. Does he go to Washington if 142 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: they're gonna get Drake Bay, I don't know, Like these 143 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: guys are gonna have options, and like Tennessee's gonna they're 144 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: not gonna get anyone. They're like the guy who waited, waited, 145 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: Waded didn't want to ask any girl to the dance 146 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: because he was shy, and then he's getting fomo like 147 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: two weeks before the dance and he's like, oh man, 148 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: everybody has a date. I guess I'm not even you know, 149 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't even really know this girl, but I'm just 150 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: gonna ask her, so I go with somebody, so so 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: I could hang out with my friends. Like that's where 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: Tennessee is headed with their coach, and we know that 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: ain't gonna end well, like unless they strike absolute gold 154 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: with something completely outside of the box. Hey, you know what, 155 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: let me uh hmm, let me take a swing at 156 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. There's this coach at Clemson who doesn't 157 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: want to go to Alabama, and could we pry Dabo 158 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: Sweeney out of Clemson and bring him to the NFLTIC 159 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: have him have a shot. I don't know. I mean, 160 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: you got to get creative at that point and really 161 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: take some chances. But a lot of these college guys 162 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: have it great. What the hell are they leaving for now? 163 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: Of course, you could say the counter is also true. 164 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: They have it crappy in that they have to recruit 165 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven nil has changed the game. Not 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: only do you recruit and land players, you've got to 167 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: then keep recruiting them and probably play them instantly. There's 168 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: not a lot of developmental stuff going on anymore in 169 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: college football. It's like, oh, you're not playing. You have 170 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand and nil money and you're not playing. 171 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: And Pittsburgh comes and says, hey, we got three hundred 172 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: for you at nil and you start, well, are you 173 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: gonna get better sitting on the bench. I don't know. 174 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: Do you want to go? I don't to Pittsburgh and 175 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: start and make more money? Who knows if you're going 176 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: to the NFL. It's just college is in a weird space, 177 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: and I just wonder would a college coach take a 178 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: chance on a Tennessee at Carolina. I have no clue, 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: but all I know is the NFL market right now 180 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: is just totally popping off with all sorts of stuff. 181 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: You got Vrabel out there. I don't think he's a 182 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: slam dunk to go to New England following Belichick. I 183 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: just don't know how enticing that is. Roster in New 184 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: England is kind of garbage. So I know they got 185 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: cap Bruhm. I know they got a high draft pick. 186 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: But again, you know, I'm a Jets fan, so I'm 187 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: not gonna say anything nice, but Woody Johnson, can you 188 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: call Harball? 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How are you ta good? 223 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Jason? Haven't been here for a while, so just talking 224 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: the NFL with you. 225 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: I think we had you in the preseason. You gave 226 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: out just winners galore. You said that if I remember 227 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: this one, that Arizona was not tanking. What happened with 228 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: their win total? I didn't bet it after you came on, 229 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: because you you know ginning pretty well. 230 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that win total plummeted. I think it closed at 231 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: like three and a half. It was Wow. It was 232 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: like as low as you can get. And obviously nobody 233 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: had any faith that the Arizona was even trying to win, 234 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: so they did clear that closing number, but there was 235 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: I think early on it was like five five and 236 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: a half, like way before all the tankings. So anyone 237 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: who got in early actually won on the under, and 238 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: anyone got in late one on the over. So but 239 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: I think all in all was a good season for 240 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: them for base off. 241 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: Were they your second favorite team after the Browns. 242 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously I have a little little connection 243 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: there and rooting for them, and you know, they played 244 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: hard all year, like they were never really out of 245 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: these games, and limited talent, especially on defense. They had 246 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: no talent on defense towards the end of the year, 247 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: and they were you know, they go into Philly and 248 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: win outright. So there they're sitting with a top five pick. 249 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: Hopefully they can't get a guy like Marvin Harrison be 250 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: perfect for them. They got tons of cap space, tons 251 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: of draft picks. Like they're sitting really pretty if they 252 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: utilize that. 253 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny how Gannon goes leaves, the Eagles goes 254 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: to Arizona, and the Eagles defense just falls apart. It 255 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: is abysmal this year. They can't stop anybody. We'll get 256 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: to Tampa Philly in a minute. But well, let's start 257 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: with your other favorite team, the Browns. They're in Houston. 258 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: Interesting line here, I think a lot of people, casual 259 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: betters are stunned that CJ. Stroud is a dog. The 260 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: Browns were I think one and a half at the open, 261 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: now two and a half. I bet your Browns here, 262 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: But now I'm starting to have buyers remorse as it's 263 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: gone up. But you know the CJ. Stroud factor, Like listen, 264 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: he's been phenomenal this year. He was incredible in almost 265 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: every game, but he has struggled against a bandon man defense, 266 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: which your guy Schwartz loves to do. 267 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has struggled against pressure. If you look 268 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: at his numbers when he's pressured versus a clean pocket, 269 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: I think he is one of the largest dropoffs in 270 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: the NFL once all quarterbacks, so and that's not surprising. 271 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: That's how he was at Ohio State, and that's just 272 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, young quarterbacks don't deal with pressure very well. 273 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: So if the Browns can get to him, then they're 274 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: gonna likely have success. I find this line interesting. I 275 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: personally didn't bet it. I thought that I thought that 276 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: this might be, you know, like a pickum or maybe 277 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: Houston minus one. So when the Browns are favored and 278 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: then you know, the line kind of crept up towards three. 279 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I was really stunned the way I looked at it. 280 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, they these two teams played a couple of 281 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: weeks ago and early that was right as the week 282 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: after Stroud had just missed a game due to a concussion, 283 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: and most of these quarterbacks come back after one missed game, 284 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: so everyone assumed that he was going to play. The 285 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: line opened two and a half in favor of Houston, 286 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: and it was there for about two days until the 287 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: announcement came that you know, he wasn't gonna practice and 288 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: he might not play, and then you know, the line 289 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: flipped and I think the Browns closed minus three. So 290 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: the market was telling you initially just a couple of 291 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: weeks ago, that Houston was a two and a half 292 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: point favorite at home. So for this line to completely 293 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: this is essentially are almost the same number as when 294 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: we saw case Keenum starting for Houston. So I think 295 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: you're paying a little bit of a tax for the 296 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback thing, right, like the you know, rookie quarterbacks 297 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: or first time quarterbacks in the playoffs. Obviously that there's 298 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: a little tax there, you know. There, there's the the 299 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Browns have played well the last couple of weeks with Flacco, 300 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: They're getting some buzz, so you know, it's clearly a 301 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: premium here, but I think it's a little expensive personally, 302 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm just rooting for the Browns, so 303 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm not betting it, but I think this number might 304 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: be a tad high. And now you heard Devinzel Award 305 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: got hurt in practice today, which is odd, so hopefully 306 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: that's not a big deal. But you know that Will 307 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Anderson didn't play in that first game either, by the way, 308 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: for Houston, so he's still he's still hurt. He played 309 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: the last last two games of the of the year, 310 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: so he should be fine to play. Jonathan Grenard, who 311 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: has twelve and a half sacks, he didn't. I think 312 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: he left after two or three snaps in that first game, 313 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: so he's Questionable's he's more questionable I think the Will Anderson. 314 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. But you know, if they 315 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: get those guys back, like this is a completely different 316 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: team than the Browns world just three weeks ago, so 317 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I think it'll be it'll be a really close game. 318 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: He did play, You're right, in the indie game at 319 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: the end he had it looks like he didn't play 320 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: a ton of his normal stats that he was playing 321 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: earlier in the year. But yeah, no, he's a game 322 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: changer off the edge, and the Browns are down both 323 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: starting tackles, right that's been the case for a few 324 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: weeks maybe. 325 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: Actually their top three tackles. So to rookie Dwan Jones 326 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: out of Ohio State, who was playing really well. 327 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: He was. 328 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: Filling in for Jedrick Wills and Jack Hanklan on the 329 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: right side. Yeah, he's out for the season a couple 330 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, so you know they're playing with backups 331 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: out there. And it's amazing what Stefanski and this offense 332 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: is done between Flacco and Jerome Ford instead of Watson 333 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: and Nick Chubb, and then you're down to your fourth 334 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,479 Speaker 1: and fifth tackles. It's just incredible what they've done offensively 335 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: to hold this thing together. 336 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: Speaking of injuries the Dolphins, it looks like they're gonna 337 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: be down five starting defenders and a rotational guy at six. 338 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: Moster is back, which is a huge help. This is 339 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: a tough game for me. And by the way, do 340 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: you have Peacock or are you one of these guys 341 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: who's like going to do the trial for Peacock and 342 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: then cancel. 343 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: No, I have all these streaming services like that. You 344 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: know when when COVID hit, like me and my wife, 345 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: we were binging everything. My wife was pregnant, so we 346 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: bought everything and I what a couple of bucks a month. 347 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: I just keep them all. 348 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: So have you seen bell Air or no? 349 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: No, I am not. 350 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: I think it's good man, the fresh per three boot. 351 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe not for you, but I greatly 352 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: enjoyed it. So we have peacock okay, And I don't know, 353 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: maybe I'm dumb. I bet the Chiefs here at the 354 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: outset very early a juice minus three. It's up to 355 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: four now. I do have problems with the chief getting 356 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: separation here. Maybe maybe McDaniel just says we're just going 357 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: to run Mostert and a chin all day and make 358 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: them stop us. It worked largely against Buffalo, but is 359 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: it going to work in casey rested Chiefs Miami kind 360 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: of a short week. I don't know, man, it's. 361 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: A tough game. So I think three's a good number 362 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: for you. I think that's the right number. I actually 363 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: just took four and a half, and I took under 364 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: forty four and a half earlier today. I just thought 365 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: it was I thought the numbers were too high, and 366 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: I did more. You know me, I like to really 367 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: dig in, and I've got a database going back to 368 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: two thousand of every game. I even have you know 369 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: some weather data. So I was just curious, like the 370 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: more and more I'm looking at some of this weather, 371 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: these weather forecasts, like it keeps getting colder by the day, 372 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: and we're talking about I saw a pickoff temperature at zero, 373 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be negative tempts during the game, and 374 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fifteen mile hour wins. And obviously when 375 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: you have a weather issue like that, that usually brings 376 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: the underdog closer, right, a higher variance game, a lot 377 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: of things can happen. And so I know it's Miami, 378 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: but I think everyone's gonna be cold. Like I don't 379 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: think it matters whether you're from Miami or you're from Ohio, 380 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: you're from Missouri, like it doesn't you know, it doesn't matter. 381 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna be freezing when it's below zero. So it's 382 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna affect everybody. And when you look back, I just 383 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: did a quick search like I did temperatures from six 384 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: degrees and lower because at that at the time, that's 385 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: what the expected high temperature was going to be. And 386 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: since two thousand, I'm talking regular season and playoffs, the 387 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: underdog is actually seven to zero to one against the spread. 388 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: Only one game. Yeah, only one game was decided by 389 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: more than three points if you could believe that the 390 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: under was seven and one in those games too, and 391 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: no game had more than forty three points scored total. 392 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: So I do think like you'll see some stuff. People 393 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: will post things that like, oh, no, you know, temperature 394 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: doesn't matter when it's twenty five or thirty degrees below. 395 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: You know, the overhits, but like it really as you 396 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: get to the single digits, it drops off precipitously, and 397 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: you know you're in La guys, you don't know how 398 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: it is. I'm a Cleveland guy. There's a gigantic difference 399 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: between twenty five to thirty degrees and five degrees or 400 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: negative tests both. Like literally you you don't feel your 401 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: face after like thirty seconds. So like to me, you 402 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: got a hard and ball. You got a Chiefs team 403 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: that I mean, these receivers can't catch the ball anyway, 404 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: like they're gonna catch up thro football. So both teams 405 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: are gonna run and a lie and look that the 406 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: Dolphins are one of the best run offenses in the 407 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: NFL between eighth han and if most are plays like 408 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: they could keep the ball on the ground and to 409 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: a know, probably is gonna struggle because he's not used 410 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: to this weather for sure. So I just think it's 411 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a lower scoring game. I think both teams 412 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: are gonna run the ball a lot. You'll see a 413 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: lot of Pacheco and even though the Miami defenders all 414 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: those edge rushers are gone, you know, it doesn't matter 415 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: as much if you can't push the ball down the 416 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: field with a frozen football, and you know, in these temperatures. 417 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: So I just think it just plays out to be 418 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: a lower scoring game, and that you know, obviously favors 419 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: for a team getting four and a half, It just 420 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: brings it closer closer to the favorite. So I just 421 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: decided to take the points there. 422 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many people do you think are just gonna 423 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: see cold weather to Miami and instantly bet KC. Which 424 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: is I mean the books seem fine with that, huhts 425 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: up to four and a half. 426 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, and that's what I mean. I think that's that's 427 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: all the mop in. There's no way, like any I know, 428 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: the injuries matter, but there's no way, based on how 429 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: the season has gone, that you can ever favor Kansas 430 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: City by four and a half, right, Like just purely 431 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: based on statistics and how the season's gone, because they 432 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: just they don't blow anybody out. I mean, they were 433 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: just favored by seven over at Jake Browning led Bengals team, right, 434 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: So tell me, like that team is two and a 435 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: half points worse than Miami, you know, I mean, they're 436 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: a lot worse. So it's clearly all that is baked 437 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: into between the two of stuff and the injuries and 438 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the weather. I think that's all baked into this being 439 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: inflated here. So you know, like I said, your number three, 440 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I think is a good one. I think that's a 441 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: perfectly fine bet, and then I think my four and 442 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: a half is good. On the other side, I think 443 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: it's you have two good bets there. 444 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: This is kind of an open question and a difficult one, 445 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: but what the hell's wrong with k C. It can't 446 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: just be the drops. I know they lead the league 447 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 2: in drops, and they'd be better if they didn't have them. 448 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: And there was a couple high leverage plays that they 449 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: lost out on with the turnovers against the Eagles and 450 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: the pass interference against the Packers, and you could make 451 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 2: all these excuses, but they just they're not destroyed like 452 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: the Eagles aren't destroying teams like they were last year. 453 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: The Chiefs just don't look crisp at all in any 454 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: facet offensively, don't Can you put your finger on one 455 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: one thing? 456 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't have all the tracking data, 457 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: but I just don't think the receivers are getting any separate. 458 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, Look, he's getting older now, he was hurt 459 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: earlier in the year, and you know he's just not 460 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: He's just not getting as open as he used to. 461 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: And then you have no speed on the outside yet. 462 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: Rashid Rice, who's fine, but he's a rookie, right, and 463 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: he's a he's a good player, but he's not an 464 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: elite receiver, so you just don't have those options outside. 465 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: And I think Patrick Mahomes offensive line hasn't played well either, 466 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: especially in that Raiders game. You saw it. He got skittish. 467 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: You know, you're not used to seeing it. But and 468 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't blame him. He's panicking a little bit early. 469 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: He's like trying It's like he doesn't feel comfortable in 470 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: the pocket like he used to, so you know he's 471 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: trying to get out of the pocket a little bit early, 472 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: trying to make a play. He's not just you know, 473 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: taking those quick throws. So I think it's a combination 474 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: of all of that. So but their defense is a 475 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: lot better, right, So it's making up for some of 476 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: the offensive deficiencies. And we'll see, Like I'm always you know, 477 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Eagles in Tampa. I'm always skeptical 478 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: of these teams to quote unquote turn it on, you know, 479 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Like we we thought we were gonna 480 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: see that with Tampa and the Bucks last year, right, 481 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Like everybody thought, oh that the Bucks once they get 482 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: to the playoffs, like they're gonna turn around, because all 483 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: year they struggled, and then they got to the playoffs. 484 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Everyone bet them as a home dog against Dallas and 485 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: they got destroyed. So we just got to be careful, 486 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: you know that these teams. Just can't assume that these 487 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: teams are gonna you know, turn the lights on. But 488 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: you do have the best quarter but you do have 489 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the NFL there, so that's always 490 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: a possibility. 491 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: And so it's funny with the Chiefs last year, my 492 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: big thing was, Okay, they'll be okay in the regular 493 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: season without Tyreek, but in the playoffs, like, who's going 494 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: to be that guy who you could third and nine 495 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 2: you just need it, and Mahomes was like seven touchdowns, 496 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: no turnovers, amazing postseason run, and then they win the 497 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: super Bowl. It was just all Mahomes. I don't it 498 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: doesn't look like he can be Superman again, at least 499 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: from what I've seen this year. 500 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: And he's amazing. Least twenty second in the NFL in 501 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: completions of twenty plus yards down the field, Like they're 502 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: taking away all the all the deep stuff and they 503 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: just don't have many options to go deep. And then 504 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: when they do throw a deep, guys like MBS are 505 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: dropping it right, like I guess in that Eagles game. 506 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: So it's just a combination of all of that. I 507 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: think is just playing into it. And I think even 508 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: last year he had a similar wide receiving corps, but 509 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: he had a you know, Travis Kelcey was still playing 510 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: an elite level and he was getting so that was 511 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: a big difference there and that clearly has made the difference. 512 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: And you know, the offensive line isn't as good as 513 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: it was last year either. So yeah, I said, I 514 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: think it's all of that, but maybe they turned it 515 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: on here and you know it's it's Mahomes and Indie 516 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: Reid and that's all you need to get to the 517 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl again. Stuff. We'll see. 518 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers are it looks like as we record this 519 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: year Thursday, they're getting some money against the Bills. It 520 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: looks like this is headed toward nine and a half again. 521 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, this was ten and a half. 522 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: It seems like Buffalo's to slam dunk. It's Mason Rudolph, 523 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: first time quarterback. The Buffalo Bills went from out of 524 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: the playoffs to the number two seed. A massive wind 525 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: game here, which actually kind of helps the Steelers. I 526 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: don't know, man, I'm that idiot who just said give 527 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: me Buffalo at ten, and it looks like I'm on 528 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: the wrong side at least closing line value. We'll see 529 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: what that means. But I don't know anything for you 530 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: on this one. 531 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually again along with that Kansas City or that 532 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: Miami and under, I took Pittsburgh plus ten and it's 533 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: you know, not saying my cause, my bet cause, but 534 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: it's just good timing. I guess that the number is 535 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: starting to dip it again. It's like you just mentioned, 536 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: with these you know, twenty plus mile an hour sustained wins. 537 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: I've seen gus over thirty. You know, the temperature should 538 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: be okay, in the twenties. It's not like as cold 539 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: as it will be in Kansas City. But again, that 540 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: brings in, especially a big underdog like this, that brings 541 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: in the level of variance and you know, kind of 542 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: levels the playing field. And when you're getting a double 543 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: digit underdog at this and so Mike Tomlin, you know, 544 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: back team like you know that that increases the ability 545 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: of these dogs to cover in this run game. For Pittsburgh, yeah, 546 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: they faced you know, Seattle and Cincinnati and the backups 547 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: for Baltimore. But they've really turned it on the last 548 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: three weeks with Mason Rudolph. There's the second best run 549 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: offense in the NFL in the last three weeks. And 550 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: when you look at success right logic, Yeah. 551 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: God, who did they play in the last three weeks. 552 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: Well that's what I just said. So Seattle, right, and 553 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: the backups for Baltimore. But Buffalo, Buffalo's run defense is solid. 554 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: They're eleventh, but they have allowed you'd be surprised at this. 555 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: They've allowed the or they've played the single easiest schedule 556 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: of opposing run offenses, so they haven't been tested. And 557 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: they've allowed the second highest rate of explosive runs, so 558 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: fifteen yard runs they've allowed the second highest rate. So 559 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, maybe not on a down to down basis. 560 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: You know Pittsburgh will have a ton of success, but 561 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: you know they can't break off a runner. Two. Jalen 562 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: Warren's tough to tackle. This isn't the greatest tackling Buffalo defense. 563 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: Jal No, he is not. He's out for the season. 564 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: So they're line yeah, and so their linebackers are a 565 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: little smaller and not as great a tackling. So again 566 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: it's still solid defense. But you know this, I think 567 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: this Pittsburgh team can at least run the ball. Naijie 568 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: Harris has like turned the corner like he used to 569 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: look like he was stuck in mud. But the last 570 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: three weeks, even against the competition, he's facing like He's 571 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: rushed for over three hundred yards the last three games 572 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and he's looked good doing and he's broken a bunch 573 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: of tackles. I think they could do just enough on 574 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: the ground. You know, Mason Rudolph, he's not going to 575 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field in this weather. But 576 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: all he needs to do is throw quick slants to 577 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson and George Pickens and they do the rest, right. 578 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got back to back or two of 579 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: the last three weeks quick slants have taken it, you know, 580 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: seventy plus yards for a touchdown. And they're playmakers. So 581 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, and Russell Douglas is Buffalo's top corner. He 582 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: got hurt last week. He hasn't practiced yet. You know, 583 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: who knows if he'll play. Dave Davis is out for 584 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo likely, you know, as good as you know Buffalo 585 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: is on offense generally, you know, their bottom ten in 586 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: explosive pass plays like they have not pushed the ball 587 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: down the field, and you're gonna be without your your 588 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: top you know, deep ball receiver and Gave Davis. It's 589 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of running. I expect Fournett and 590 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: James Cook and obviously Josh Allen. Take a look at 591 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen rush props. You know, he could have a 592 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: big game. I think they're gonna keep it on the 593 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: ground and I just think it's it's gonna be one 594 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: of those lower scoring games. And you know a lot 595 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: of people will talk about the taj Watt injury, and 596 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: I totally get it. A lot of back in the 597 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: prior years, like his backups have been really, really poor. 598 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I think last year, combined all that edge rushers behind him, 599 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: so obviously not Alex Highsmith on the other side, but 600 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: all the backups had like thirteen total pressures and no 601 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: sacks in action without t J Watt. This year, Nate 602 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: Herbig was a really promising rookie out of Wisconsin. Marcus Golden, 603 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: who's an underrated veteran who's kind of been all over 604 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: the place. Those guys have played really well. Both have 605 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: a PFF pass rush grades over eighty. They have seven 606 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: sacks combined, so I think they can do just enough 607 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: to fill the gap and you might not need that 608 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: pass rush as much with the weather and then win 609 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: the way it is so again, I think lower scoring. 610 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean the totals thirty five, so you get an 611 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: underdog nine ten points, it's becomes highly valuable. And I 612 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: think as long as they limit the turnovers, I think 613 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: it's just kind of one of those twenty to thirteen 614 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: time games, and you know, to me, the points are 615 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: just too valuable. 616 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: Here, it's probably the smart play. I'm looking at Josh 617 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: Allen's playoff history against the spread. I don't have the 618 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: full number, but I have the box scores. So in 619 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: his first one against the Texans, did not cover. I 620 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: know he did not cover the next year against Philip 621 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: Rivers because I think you would come on. That was 622 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: when you were coming on. Yeah, they covered the Colts 623 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: did Then they did cover against the Ravens. I had 624 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: lamar in that one. They did not cover against the 625 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: Chiefs in a blowout. The following year covered against the Patriots, 626 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: did not cover in the overtime loss to the Chiefs, 627 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: remember the great game. And then last year didn't cover 628 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: against Miami and then got their butts kicked by the Bengals. Right, 629 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: so Alan, Yeah, but he's not a covering machine in 630 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 631 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: How about this one? You want a trend? Because I 632 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 1: was looking it up because I was like, I felt like, 633 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, when you see the Chargers game that going 634 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: to l a couple of weeks ago and almost loot 635 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: outright to what as an eleven twelve point favorite? Yeah, 636 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: do you know they're oh for their last nine covering 637 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: a double digit spread. They're two to nine in the 638 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: last eleven instances that they haven't covered a double digit 639 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: number since Week five of last year. Like, they are 640 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: not blowing teams out that they're supposed to. They play much, 641 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: but they step up in competition really well. But when 642 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: they play teams inferior teams, they're just not blowing them out. 643 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's a function of just the offense 644 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: isn't as explosive as it used to. You know, Stefan 645 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: Diggs isn't as active. They're not pushing it down the field. 646 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: And you know now with Joe Brady a little bit 647 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: more conservative running the football. So again, all of that 648 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: to me points towards towards Pittsburgh here just to keep 649 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: it closer. Look, you got the Mike Tomlin voodoo that's 650 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: always out there. I mean, if the game's gonna be close, 651 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: like you never know with this team. 652 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't know about on the road. I mean, Mason 653 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: Rudolph is rough. Although he's eighteen of twenty in the 654 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: rain against the Ravens. I was stunned. I had Baltimore 655 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: last week, all right, So then the next game is 656 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: probably the second best game Packers Cowboys. And you said 657 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: you don't have a side on this one. This is 658 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: for me the toughest one to bet because I want 659 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: the Packers, but I don't know. I just feel like 660 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: Dallas might just blow them out. I had some Dallas 661 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: futures to win the Super Bowl and NFC, I don't know, man, 662 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: this is you were the guy who was telling us 663 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: the Packers are like the most boom bust team in 664 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: the preseason, right. 665 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. That was my top kind of sleeper pick 666 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: from an NFC standpoint was the Packers just because I thought, 667 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, everyone just assumed Jordan Love was not good, 668 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: right because of like very limited action. And I said, look, 669 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: the guy's got a pedigree, he's a first round pick, 670 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: he's got all the tools, he's athletic, got a good arm. 671 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: We just hadn't seen them. So I said, well, why 672 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: are we just assuming he's going to be really bad? 673 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: And it's not like Aaron Rodgers was great last year, 674 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: so the bar was not very high. And knew they 675 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: had an easy schedule, so I thought that if he 676 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: was just above average that they could make the playoffs. 677 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: And he's actually way better. Number five in EPA per 678 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: dropback this year. He was awesome in the last He 679 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: was awesome in the last half of the year. If 680 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: you look at the last I think, like eight or 681 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: nine weeks, number three in the NFL among all quarterbacks 682 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: in EPA, eighteen touchdowns, one interception, Like he kind of 683 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: snuck up to be one of one of the best 684 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. So, if the thing is again, 685 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: this is his first playoff start in a tough environment 686 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: in Dallas. He didn't face a ton of great defenses. 687 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, he did face Kansas City and played well. 688 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Hasn't really faced a tough defense on the road. I 689 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know this. This is like one of those I 690 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are gonna want to tease 691 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: Dallas down to one and a half. I'm a little 692 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: worried if i'm if I'm a Dallas Packer. Like Green 693 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: Bay when they're on, like the way they played against 694 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: Detroit on Thanksgiving, they could beat anybody in the NFL. 695 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: We saw obviously, we saw them beat the Chiefs. We 696 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: saw them beat the Lions or two of the best 697 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: teams like they can. They can you know, pour it 698 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: on you and Jordan Love can get hot. So it's 699 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: one of those teams that like, I don't. I would 700 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: not want to lay any amount or you know, tease 701 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: them because they could they could lose by twenty or 702 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: they can win outright, Like I think it's a lot 703 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: of boom er bus like. So I haven't bet anything here. 704 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Green Bay because I just like the story. 705 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: And again I was rooting for them all year and 706 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: I think they're fun, a lot of young talent. On offense, 707 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna get Christian Watson back, I will say so. Defensively, 708 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: they've been horrible this year, especially the back like month 709 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: of the year. They actually made Bryce Young look look 710 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: like a real good quarterback, which nobody has. But they 711 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: they've been really banged up all year. Jay Era and 712 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: Xanders get up play. We think he got hurt today supposedly, 713 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: but Thevondre Campbell, their best linebacker, the heart of their defense. 714 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: He's came back last week. They've only played a couple 715 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: of games together, and when they've played together, they've been 716 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: really good. They've been a top ten defense. So again 717 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: limited sample size, but now they essentially have their lineup 718 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: that they've they've wanted from the beginning. So we'll see 719 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: how they how they match up against Dallas. It's hard 720 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: to stop, but you know Exander's playing, he can slow 721 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 1: down ceedee lamb. You know he's a guy who got 722 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: the match. So I think it's gonna be the most 723 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: I think that game in the Rams game with the Lions, 724 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: or the two most fun games for sure. 725 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: Football is back. No more preseason games. The regular season 726 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 2: is here. 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I know you can't quantify it, but that's 744 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: got to put a little added pressure on McCarthy, who 745 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: has had two not great playoff games against the Niners 746 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: in losses the last you know, the last two years. 747 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: I just wonder close game in the fourth quarter, Lafloor, 748 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: we're with house money, we didn't expect to be here, 749 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: and McCarthy we've seen him get super conservative. And again, 750 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: you can't put numbers on it, but how do you 751 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 2: how do you factor that in? Yeah? 752 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: I think there. I think Lafleur has a big coaching 753 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: edge when it comes to game strategy, especially late. I mean, 754 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: we've seen McCarthy screw things up constantly. Uh and again 755 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: maybe maybe like all week it doesn't affect him, but 756 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: maybe towards the end of the game, you know, he 757 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: gets pressure and he you know, you know, win that paray. 758 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: I gotta win this game, Gotta win this game. Got 759 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: to make the right call or got to call the 760 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: right time out or you know, there are you know 761 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 1: there is there's opportunity for him to make mistakes there 762 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: when the pressure is on. And I do think now 763 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick's available, I you know, tell me Jerry 764 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: Jones wouldn't salivate to have him if Mike McCarthy screws 765 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: up here or loses this game or even the next round. 766 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: So that definitely that pressure doesn't matter. And I think 767 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: the coaching edge, you know, definitely is on Lafleur side. 768 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: That's a good I was thinking hardball, but yeah, Belichick 769 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: sure certainly the best game. I think everybody agrees that. 770 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: With the story lines that Lions hosting the Rams. My 771 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: problem t A I got Rams here, but see, I 772 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: haven't seen one person that I respect or that's credible 773 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: take the Lions. I don't know who you want. 774 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm behind the Rams too, but I got a three 775 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: and a half. So it depends, right, that's nice. Yeah, 776 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: it's different than if you get at three and like, 777 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: I get it. It's kind of a trendy dog. But 778 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. I mean there's you know, to me, 779 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: when I when I ran my numbers, I wasn't gonna 780 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna like the Rams because 781 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: I haven't been on them much this year, but some 782 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: really smart guys I know have been on them for 783 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: the last half of the year. And the more I 784 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: kind of dug in if you look at this this offense, 785 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: and you look at them when they have a healthy lineup, 786 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: So that means obviously Matthew Stafford, Nikua, Cooper Cup, and 787 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Kyrin Williams, because Kyrin Williams missed a handful of games. 788 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: Stafford missed, missed a game, Cooper Cup obviously missed early 789 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: in the season. Those guys have played eight games together. 790 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: They've averaged nearly thirty points per game. They are the 791 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: NFL's number one ranked offense in those games. We look 792 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: at EPA, so some of the advanced metrics better than 793 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: the Niners. If you could believe that this twenty six 794 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: plus in six right games, and they've done so. It's 795 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: not like they're doing it against like the dregs of 796 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. In terms of the defenses. They've scored thirty 797 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: plus against the Browns, Ravens, and Saints. That's the number one, 798 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: number two, and number five EPA defenses in the NFL. 799 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: Like they're they're no joke, they're for real. You got 800 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: obviously a great offensive mine and Sean McVay is gonna 801 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: have a week to prepare against you know, Aaron Glenn. 802 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn is not the He's a great players coach, 803 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: he's not a good strategic coach. And we saw that. 804 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, the Lions have really struggled. The Lions defense 805 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: is bottom ten in most metrics, and they're one of 806 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: the they've they've generated some of the highest rate of 807 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: turnovers in the NFL, so they're getting They're lucky they're 808 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: not the worst defense in the NFL because of these turnovers. 809 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: So I just think you get a week to prepare. 810 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: Big advantage. Obviously McVeigh and Rahee Morris, no Jared Goff. 811 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: Inside out, you have Sam Laporto who's probably not gonna play. 812 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: You have Khalif Raymond. So the one area that I 813 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: would be concerned about, So keep an eye on. The 814 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: Rams have the worst special teams in the NFL. They're off, 815 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: they can't make a field goal, and they're not good 816 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: on special teams. Khalif Raymond, who's a really good returner 817 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: for Detroit, he got hurt last game. He may not play. 818 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: That's a big that's a big edge that could be 819 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: lost if he's not able to go. But that's the 820 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: one area that like maybe you know, the Rams need 821 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: a field goal to win a game or to tie it, 822 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: or they allow a punt return, or you know, there's 823 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: a block somewhere, Like that's the one area that this 824 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: thing could go down, go down south. But you know, 825 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: the Rams defense is not great, not a lot of 826 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: household names outside of Aaron Donald. Kobe Turner has been 827 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: really good find as a rookie along the defensive line. 828 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: But they're kind of, you know, you know, middle of 829 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: the pack in every category. But they have not created 830 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: many turnovers at all. They're opposite of the Lions. So 831 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: I like that because you know, turnovers are typically fluky, 832 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: and so when you're relying on turnovers to kind of 833 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: save your butt as a defense, it's just not something 834 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: that's picked each week and going forward. And so the 835 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: fact that they're still kind of middle of the pack, 836 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: they face a tough bunch of tough offense between the 837 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: Niners and the and the and the Ravens, et cetera. 838 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: Like they've played some really good teams and they've held 839 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: their own uh, and they're not creating any turnovers. If 840 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: they create any turnovers, they get the lucky bounces during 841 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs they can make a run. So I don't know. 842 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Rams are gonna win. I just 843 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: think that you get a veteran quarterback who's won a 844 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl just two years ago on the road in 845 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: a tough environment. That's why I want if this was 846 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: like Jordan love Manning, you know, or c J. Stroud 847 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: in this spot, it might be a tough sell because 848 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's a really hostile environment and you got 849 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: a rookie or a young quarterback making his first start. 850 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: You know, maybe you don't produce the same, but you 851 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: got Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay, Like, I feel very 852 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: confident those guys that have gone through it, they're gonna 853 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: be fine in this environment. And I just don't see 854 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: Detroit stopping them at all. So I'm not sure if 855 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: they'll win, but I think I think the three and 856 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: a half or three is a good number. 857 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 2: Is this the biggest coaching edge in the playoff wild 858 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 2: card round? McVeigh and Campbell unless you're a Campbell guy. 859 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily Campbell. It's more McVeigh versus like, 860 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: like I said, versus Aeron Glynne. Probably that's probably the 861 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: biggest edge. 862 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: Let me reframe it the high leverage moments. I trust 863 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: McVeigh a ton. I don't know if Dan Campbell's going 864 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: to do the right thing. I feel like he just 865 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: goes with his gut to I'm guessing because that end 866 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: of the game sequence against the Cowboys was just bewildering. 867 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 1: You know, the thing with him is he actually goes 868 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: for it, like analytics. People love him because he goes 869 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: for it so often. He'll do stuff like he'll run 870 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: a fake punt in his own territory, which is the 871 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: great time to do it. Like you'll hear announcers, by 872 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: the way, this is great whenever like, okay, they're at 873 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: the opponent's forty or forty five. Oh, watch out for 874 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: a fake. No, that's actually the worst time to fake 875 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: because everyone knows it could be coming right, it's the 876 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: most obvious. The best time to do a fake is 877 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: in your own territory when nobody thinks, you know, you 878 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: would ever do it. So he actually does stuff like that, 879 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: which is great. What he did at the end of 880 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: that game last week when after the penalty he just 881 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: got blinded. It was the hole he was so upset 882 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: with the refs that he got blinded. He said, I'm 883 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: just going to go for it. That's where he got 884 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: screwed over where he screwed himself over should not I'm 885 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: going for it. He didn't have a good excuse for 886 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: it after the game. But in general, I actually don't 887 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: mind his aggressiveness in his fourth down play cauling. It's 888 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: just it's more coordinator related with Aaron Blyin. I mean, 889 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's great on offense, but Aaron Glenn on defense 890 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: as a joke. So that's probably the biggest mismatch. 891 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: Finally, and I don't have a ton on this Eagles Bucks. 892 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: I took the Eagles. I feel like everybody thinks, oh, 893 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: Bucks are live for an upset. You actually are the 894 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: lone voice I heard that was hyping the Bucks, not hyping, 895 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 2: but saying they could be better than advertised. Meanwhile, I'm like, oh, 896 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: they'll be selling Evans and god Win at the trade deadline, Like, 897 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Bowls is going to keep his job. Baker 898 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: looks like he's going to get a couple like probably 899 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: a three two or three year deal or a genosmid deal. 900 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: But I mean, Tampa Bay was not bad. The division stunk, 901 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: but they're kind of limping to the finish line. The 902 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: Baker ankle injury two wins over the Panthers down the stretch. 903 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just couldn't take Tampa. Here. I'm 904 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: on the Eagles two and a half, and I. 905 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: Feel like we're oppos at every game. I'm on Tampa 906 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: at three. 907 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, no way, So I did too. 908 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: I split it up because I'm on Tampa plus three 909 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: and I'm in the team total under for Philly twenty 910 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: three and a half. And so let me let me 911 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: walk you through that. I didn't again, I didn't think 912 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna take them. But once it jumped to three, 913 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: did you get it at three or do you get 914 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: it like two and a half. 915 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 2: But then I felt so good about the Eagles, I 916 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna take it a three. It's but significant. 917 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: Getting Tampa plus three is different than two and a half, right, 918 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: so you get you got a better number. It's just 919 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: like with the Miami Kansas City game. So it's not 920 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: a problem just for me, Like, Okay, if I put 921 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: a blindfold on you, uh, and I said, you're not 922 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: allowed to know who these teams are, and I just 923 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: gave you the numbers and the results for the year. 924 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: There is no way in the world a you would 925 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: ever make Philly a three point favorite, and probably be 926 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: you would never bet them here like using season long 927 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: data and season long stats, Tampa should be favored, to 928 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: be honest, at worst, it's a pick them. But Tampa 929 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: should be favored because do you know that Phillies. You 930 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: know what their point differential was this year? Guess what 931 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: They're five? Yeah, let me guess you read it somewhere. 932 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: No, No, we talked about it earlier wend. 933 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so the second worst in the NFL behind Pittsburgh. Okay, 934 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and you know, typically when you get 935 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: something like that, Okay, maybe Jalen Hurts missed a handful 936 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: of games and they got blown out a couple of times. 937 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: At the backup, maybe they had the you know, maybe 938 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: the toughest schedule in the NFL. So it's not apples apples. No, 939 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: they faced like one of the ten to twelve easier 940 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: schedules in the NFL. Jalen Hurts played every game like 941 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: there is no like they did not produce. Even when 942 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: they were winning games earlier this year, it was essentially fluky. 943 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: They were. They were keeping every game close. They beat 944 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: Washington by seven twice, like when they were They're actually 945 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: losing in Washington and at one point they could have lost. 946 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: Remember that one game that went went to overtime early 947 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: in the year. You know, so they they kept They 948 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: lose to Arizona at home as eleven point favorites. They 949 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: get blown out by the Giants with Tyrod Taylor like 950 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: they I don't know. Like again, back to what we 951 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: said with Tampa last year, we all thought, okay, uh, 952 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: you know this Bucks team and Tom Brady, when they 953 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, they're gonna turn it around, right, 954 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: They're just gonna turn on the light. And they just 955 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: never had it. These teams tell you who they are, 956 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: Like I've come to learn that these teams will tell 957 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: you who they are. They have not covered six straight games, 958 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: they have not covered. The market's been wrong on them 959 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: every time, assuming that they're gonna turn the lights on. 960 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: And look, you're telling me that they're just gonna turn 961 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: turn everything around while they have a quarterback in Jalen 962 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: hurt who hurt his finger, middle finger of his throwing end. 963 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: You know, he has not thrown the football since Sunday. 964 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 1: They interviewed him today and he has not even thrown 965 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: a football. That tells me there's something really wrong with 966 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: his hand. You're not even like warming up, you're not 967 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: even trying to throw it. He hasn't even attempted to 968 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: throw the football yet, So who even knows if he 969 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: can be effective or if he's gonna play. A. J. 970 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: Brown did not practice today. He left the game last week. 971 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: He's got some sort of you know, potentially like an 972 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: mcbl sprain. Maybe he goes, but he's not one hundred percent. 973 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: Devonte Smith did practice. He's gonna play, but again he's 974 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: coming off with sprain ankle. So you've got your three 975 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: three best players on offense who are all banged up, 976 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: that are not one hundred percent. Defensively, You've been a 977 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: joke like they're the third worst team in the nf 978 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: defensively by every metric. In the last six weeks they've 979 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: allowed they went from the the third lowest exposed to 980 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: play rate allowed in the first eleven games of the year. 981 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: They've allowed the third most or third highest rate in 982 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: the last you know, handful of like like seven weeks. 983 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: So like everything is going wrong for Philly. You you know, 984 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: I just can't justify laying points on the road against Yeah, 985 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: Tampa's not great, but they're they're solid, Like they actually 986 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: have one of the best against spread records this year 987 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, they've hung with it. You know, 988 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: it hung tough, especially as underdogs. They've been really good. 989 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's a veteran defense. They're not not going 990 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: to be afraid. You've got good players on the defense, 991 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: are fully healthy, like they they have no injuries at 992 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: all on defense. And the one reason why I did 993 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: take I did split up my wager between the under 994 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: the team total, and Tampa is just a case like 995 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: like you said, with Baker Mayfields, he heard his ankle 996 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: last week. He's got bad ribs from two weeks ago. 997 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: He seemed a little bit off last week. If he's 998 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: not not not you know, playing well, maybe they it's 999 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: a lower scoring game and they lose, you know, twenty 1000 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: to ten or something. At least I can get that 1001 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: under I'm just I'm baking on Philly's offense. Just not 1002 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, turning things around with all those injuries and 1003 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: then just hoping that Baker's not totally banged up and 1004 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: they can make some plays against this Phillilly team. I 1005 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: just I just don't agree with the whole They're just 1006 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna turn around like they there's zero evidence, Like what 1007 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: evidence is there that this team can turn it around 1008 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: right now? I just don't see it. 1009 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: So let me ask so Bak. They had a walk 1010 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 2: through here on Thursday, but according to Tampa Bay Media, 1011 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 2: had they conducted a full speed practice, Baker, Tristan Wurf's 1012 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 2: and kJ Britt would not have participated. I don't know. 1013 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: Baker's got the ankle. I guess ta. If you look 1014 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: back at their earlier meeting this year now it was September, 1015 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 2: which feels like forever ago, they just totally dominated the 1016 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,439 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Swift went while I think they rushed 1017 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: for two hundred yards, Tampa didn't quite have two hundred 1018 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: yards of total offense. Now you could argue it was 1019 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 2: Baker early. I think Evan played, but Godwin didn't. I'd 1020 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: have to look back at all that, all the particulars. 1021 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 2: I just wonder if this is just not a great matchup. 1022 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 2: When you look at the x's and o's for Tampa Bay, 1023 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1024 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I was on filling that game. I just 1025 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: think it's a totally different team. First of all, the 1026 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: defense was way better. Yea, you know, they just were 1027 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: were much better. I don't you know. Again, I just 1028 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: think it was a totally different situation. If you watch 1029 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: that game again, I was on filling that game. You know, 1030 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: they dominated to an extent. You know, they tried to 1031 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 1: throw the ball, they weren't as successful. Mike Evans dropped two. Really, 1032 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: he does this a lot. Dropped two easy play, easy 1033 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: deep balls that would have changed complexion of that game. 1034 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: One was on third down. You know, a little things 1035 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: like that. And you know, one thing I forgot to 1036 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: mention because in that game, you know, Philly was fine, 1037 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: but they had I think, I gotta I gotta find it. 1038 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: They had maybe their sixth lowest or seventh lowest offensive 1039 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 1: performance or seventh worst off performance all year in that game. 1040 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: So they were okay and amazingly you know, I'm not 1041 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: some of these splits are kind of random, right, like 1042 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: they're not always telling. But I was looking at the 1043 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: Eagles offense and said all right, what are like the 1044 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: worst games of the year. They were all on the road. 1045 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: Their six worst offensive games all went on the road. 1046 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: I have no idea why. And if you look last year, 1047 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: remember they almost lost to the Colts on the road. 1048 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: Last year, like they played, they played these road games 1049 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: very very down to their competition. You know, they weren't 1050 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: really that dominant. And for whatever reason, this year, you know, 1051 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: they're five worst and six of their seven worst games 1052 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: on offense all came on the road. They've only gone 1053 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: over there. By the way, another reason why I took 1054 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 1: the team total ender. They've only gone over their team 1055 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: total twice in nine road games all season. One of 1056 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: them was by a half a point in the opener 1057 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: against New England, which you remember that was they had 1058 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 1: to pick six at that game, right, So they've completely 1059 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: over you know, underperformed on offense on the road, and 1060 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks defense have held they've held opposed offenses under 1061 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: their team total in seventy one percent of games at 1062 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: three points per game. That's the third best in the NFL. 1063 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: So you know they're exceeding expectations defensively. It wasn't a 1064 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: high scoring game last time, and you got all these 1065 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: in it's really just the injuries you've got. It's not 1066 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: just one. It's not like one receiver, it's both receivers 1067 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: and just starting quarterbacks. So like, I want to see 1068 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: Philly prove it to me that they're going to turn 1069 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: this around before I before I believe in them. 1070 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think Sirianni's in any trouble if he loses 1071 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: this game? 1072 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: Man, with all these these coaches out there, between Rabel 1073 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: and Belichick, and you know, I could see it being tempting, 1074 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, if they're able to land one of the fish. 1075 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: But I don't. I mean, it would be crazy to me. 1076 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: But you know, who knows what's going on in that 1077 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: locker room. 1078 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 2: They just they they lose both coordinators and they look 1079 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: like a totally different team this year. 1080 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: Now. 1081 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it's like, hey, we got our super Bowl ring 1082 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 2: and half the guys in the locker room are like, yes, 1083 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 2: we got it, and they're good. But it's something feels 1084 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 2: off for them to go from so dominant, blowing teams 1085 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: out with the big plays to like AJ Brown stirping, 1086 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurt banged. I don't know, man, I'm a little now. 1087 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 2: You got me worried about the Eagles here, but we'll see. 1088 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 2: I mean, anyways, all right, any futures bets that you 1089 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: want to toss in. 1090 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: There, No, I don't. I typically if I if I, like, 1091 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, any underdogs to make a run, I would 1092 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: just rather roll over their money line all the way through. 1093 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: You probably you typically get better odds doing that. Like, 1094 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: if you like the Rams, just just keep taking their 1095 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: money line every game, prying roll it over till you 1096 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. I don't. I mean, I 1097 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: have a Browns ticket from for the year as a 1098 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: fan at like thirty five to one, so you know, 1099 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: that's perfectly fine with me at this point. But I 1100 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a fun playoffs. But I just 1101 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, the Rams are very trendy picked and not 1102 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: only in this game to make a run. Like everybody 1103 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: thinks they can make a run, and maybe they can. 1104 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: I do think the special teams will hold them back eventually. 1105 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: But you know, so that's one maybe you can consider. 1106 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: But you know, nothing really stands out to me. You know, 1107 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: all the values sucked out of Buffalo. This is kind 1108 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: of a laun shot sleeper. You know, if Miami was 1109 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: not playing with all those injuries, I would have thought 1110 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: about them, because they've got, you know, a lot of 1111 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: the attributes that that these Super Bowl teams, especially like 1112 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: with the explosive plays in top pass games that you 1113 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: typically see in the super Bowl. But there's just not 1114 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: a lot out there for me to to, you know, 1115 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has no value. Again, I have the Browns, So 1116 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: to me, I'll just roll with my Browns and see 1117 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: if we can get both as a fan and as 1118 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: a as a better long shot, better ticket to the 1119 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl. 1120 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: All right. T A good stuff, as always, good luck 1121 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 2: wild Card weekend. Even though we're opposite on some games, 1122 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 2: we're on the same rams side, so that there's just 1123 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 2: always that that's true. 1124 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: Maybe to get that one, all right, I appreciate you, 1125 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: Thanks man Hav