Speaker 1: Caw from Angie.
Speaker 2: Hi. What's your name?
Speaker 1: Angie?
Speaker 2: Angie? What's up? Angie? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing doing great? Geck doing? What are you up
Speaker 1: to delivering the mail? Currently?
Speaker 2: Oh? What's what's Have you opened up anyone's letters?
Speaker 1: No? No, I I always get that uh that one
Speaker 1: person who says I got their million dollar check, but uh,
Speaker 1: it's always in my pocket. I never delivered that one.
Speaker 2: I got you. I got you well, Angie? What uh?
Speaker 2: What brings you to to the to this gecko thing
Speaker 2: that I'm doing? What brings you to call it? To
Speaker 2: call a gecko on the phone today?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, Uh, I don't know. I've been watching you for
Speaker 1: almost two three years now, you know, since you started,
Speaker 1: I've been keeping up with you.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Before I did mail, I used to sell ice cream.
Speaker 1: I had nothing but time to listen to you on
Speaker 1: my you know, doing ice cream.
Speaker 2: Mmm, what kind of What was the most popular flavor
Speaker 2: of ice cream that you sold?
Speaker 1: I sold sauce served. So it's just like vanilla and chocolate,
Speaker 1: and the amount of people who love chocolate but like
Speaker 1: hate vanilla is crazy.
Speaker 2: What do you prefer?
Speaker 1: I'm a vanilla girl. I'll do vanilla with everything. I
Speaker 1: just destroy it with toppings.
Speaker 2: People hate chocolate but love vanilla.
Speaker 1: You say, no, the opposite.
Speaker 2: I's so surprising that people hate vanilla. I'm a big
Speaker 2: fan of vanilla. Did you sell Oh it's a soft serve? Okay,
Speaker 2: did you serve it out of a truck? Did you
Speaker 2: serve it out of a truck?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you've probably heard of mister Softies.
Speaker 2: You worked in a mister softy.
Speaker 1: Truck, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, the only one in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area.
Speaker 2: Wow, well, yeah, I guess the Bay Area. Well actually, wait,
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. They of course they would need They
Speaker 2: have hot summers, don't they.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we got hot ass summers down here.
Speaker 2: What did you How often were you sneaking cream?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Dude, every day? Every day. I was being ice cream.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to work out of this place called
Speaker 2: you Spoon, and it was a frozen yogurt store that
Speaker 2: nobody was, a failing frozen yogurt store that I, as
Speaker 2: a sixteen year old, worked in alone and nobody would
Speaker 2: come in. So it was literally I just would fucking
Speaker 2: make huge, disgusting milkshakes out of red velvet and cookie dough.
Speaker 2: It's so awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's my shit right there. I make the
Speaker 1: best shakes, best shape.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Why'd you get out of the ice cream
Speaker 2: business and into uh mail? Ah?
Speaker 1: Money, money, And I moved and I moved too far
Speaker 1: away to keep doing my ice cream gig. Otherwise it's
Speaker 1: like a four hour drive there and back.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: So now I just I deliver mail in a really
Speaker 1: small town. It's really nice, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: What's the which job was was more hectic? The mail
Speaker 2: or the ice cream? Ooh?
Speaker 1: Uh? Ice cream was more hectic because there was more
Speaker 1: things going on. But the mail is just angry people
Speaker 1: just everyone's always mad.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm mmmm what was I going to say? Uh?
Speaker 2: What's what? What's What's one of the more interesting experiences
Speaker 2: perhaps that you had while you were delivering ice cream?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, I had h We do all sorts of events.
Speaker 1: If you know, mister Safty from New York, New Jersey area,
Speaker 1: they're all like serving in the streets and everything. But
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area we're a lot smaller, so we
Speaker 1: do a lot of like parties and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite and more crazy stories is
Speaker 1: I did a wedding at like a like a wedding night,
Speaker 1: so it was all of the and it was starting
Speaker 1: at ten thirty and ending at one am. So I
Speaker 1: worked my whole day, Like I got to work at
Speaker 1: nine am, and I worked and served ice cream all
Speaker 1: day and then I went to this wedding afterwards. It
Speaker 1: was like a sixteen hour day for me. And the
Speaker 1: whole day was like horrible. Everybody was like all a grumpy,
Speaker 1: and then I got to this wedding and they were
Speaker 1: just raving out. It was great.
Speaker 2: Sounds that sounds really nice. That sounds really nice. What
Speaker 2: about uh serving? What about serving mail? Like you said,
Speaker 2: people are people are crazy? What in what way? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm a substitute for everybody in this small town.
Speaker 1: I'm the only sub so of course there's like the
Speaker 1: regular who runs it every day, and whenever you're not
Speaker 1: the regular, people are upset, like I'm late, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I you know I don't I'm always lost, I'm a
Speaker 1: little late. Sometimes I'm not as fast as the regular
Speaker 1: who's been doing it for like twenty years, you know,
Speaker 1: so they're always like you forgot this piece of mail,
Speaker 1: or or I had a lady the other day called
Speaker 1: my office and say that I cut her off and
Speaker 1: flipped her off. But then she knew my name because
Speaker 1: you know, she was pulling me over all grumpy, and
Speaker 1: she was like, what's your name? What's your name? And
Speaker 1: I was like, Angie, just happy to you know, be here.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Complaining?
Speaker 2: What's going on in your life? Angie? Are you are
Speaker 2: is severing? Are you enjoying the experience of being alive?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Currently, I'm I'm trying to decide if I should move
Speaker 1: on from mail, but but I seem to be the
Speaker 1: only happy person delivering mail. I try to keep it,
Speaker 1: keep it peppy, you know, like I had a rough
Speaker 1: growing up, and you know, I'm I'm able to do
Speaker 1: what I want to do right now, and so I'm
Speaker 1: just having fun with it. Like uh, like October. The
Speaker 1: every day of October, I was dressed up in a
Speaker 1: different costume every day delivery mail.
Speaker 2: What were your costumes?
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, I did a clown. I did a cow,
Speaker 1: like full on cow with tat ear tags and everything.
Speaker 1: I did scarecrow. I did an angel with some big
Speaker 1: old wings.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Uh, literally, if you could see if you could see it,
Speaker 1: from a block away and be like, I know what
Speaker 1: that is. That's I dressed up as that.
Speaker 2: That's so funny. This is a really cool thing because
Speaker 2: you're saying that you're one of the only people who
Speaker 2: deliver mail that you feel as happy, and you say
Speaker 2: it's just because you're keeping it peppy, because I always,
Speaker 2: I always really feel like so much so much stuff
Speaker 2: is like it's it's just about like the perspective that
Speaker 2: you have on it and whether you're going to choose
Speaker 2: to have fun and enjoy shit.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm a big believer in that. I'm a
Speaker 1: big believer like a lot of the regulars or maybe
Speaker 1: like forty five and up, and they're just so gloomy,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I come in, I'm like, good morning,
Speaker 1: and they're like, Angie, just give it ten more years
Speaker 1: and you won't be all excited about good mornings. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I hope that I turn eighty in my
Speaker 1: clown costume delivering the mail happy.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, that's so awesome. Have you always been this way?
Speaker 1: I've I've heard from other people that I am, but
Speaker 1: I personally feel like I'm just so grumpy in my
Speaker 1: personal life that there's no point in being grumpy all
Speaker 1: the time, you know.
Speaker 2: So you say you're you so you feel like you're
Speaker 2: grumpy in your personal life?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how so in what way?
Speaker 1: Like? Uh, like right now I'm living with my future husband.
Speaker 1: We just you know, we're struggling. We're not rich or anything.
Speaker 1: I'm living paycheck to paycheck with a little debt a
Speaker 1: little bit. But you know, it's like, what am I
Speaker 1: going to do grump around all day and just fucking
Speaker 1: be MOPy about it? Like, you know, I still got
Speaker 1: to like eat and do things, you know, so I
Speaker 1: might as well do it with a little bit of pep.
Speaker 2: Well how'd you meet your future husband?
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, tender?
Speaker 2: Huh cool?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we met eight years ago on Tinder. We both
Speaker 1: just got out of high school and both of our
Speaker 1: like friend groups were like just downloaded, it's fun. And
Speaker 1: we were the first people that we met on Tinder
Speaker 1: and we just stopped there. We were like all right,
Speaker 1: locked in.
Speaker 2: Wow. So they so high school? So are you you're
Speaker 2: like may you're like twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm actually twenty five.
Speaker 2: Oh cool? Cool? Cool? What you say? So you say
Speaker 2: you want to get out of mail potentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well what did you go in? I want
Speaker 1: to go back to ice cream. I really like serving
Speaker 1: ice cream, but I got a job offer from my
Speaker 1: father in law to do something way boring but it
Speaker 1: pays more, you know, and it's a way high position
Speaker 1: than I am now, and it's like a career that
Speaker 1: I could do without busting my back. M. So it's
Speaker 1: just like it's one of those things where I've worked
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs, and I'm a believer in if
Speaker 1: you don't like what you're doing, you're not gonna be happy,
Speaker 1: so you might as well enjoy your job a little bit.
Speaker 1: But like, this is a job that I guess I
Speaker 1: could see myself doing, and everybody else says that I
Speaker 1: will be great at it, but it's it's a computer job,
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm not with the technology these days,
Speaker 1: you know. M.
Speaker 2: What's your dream job? Like, if you could do anything,
Speaker 2: If I could.
Speaker 1: Do anything while I'd be back in my ice cream
Speaker 1: truck serving ice cream all day. Yeah. Yeah. I I
Speaker 1: served ice cream for five years and I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was one of those jobs I got where I
Speaker 1: was I was training dogs, and I was walking dogs,
Speaker 1: and I was serving ice cream and that was like
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of my life, even though I was deadbeat, broke.
Speaker 1: It was like the highlight of my existence serving us.
Speaker 2: That's so cool. Why was Tell me more about why
Speaker 2: was it the highlight of your existence?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Just it's really freeing. Like when we started the Softy
Speaker 1: Company down here in the Bay Area, I started it
Speaker 1: sort of with my boss. I was like the first
Speaker 1: five employees we had down here, and we only had
Speaker 1: like four trucks, so I was like in charge of
Speaker 1: my own truck. Essentially. It was like my thing. I
Speaker 1: cleaned it up, I took cre of it, that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And it's really nice when I get to just,
Speaker 1: you know, drive around my neighborhood and wave and just smile,
Speaker 1: you know, and just hand out ice cream, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of times where we have like
Speaker 1: events where it's like prepaid and there's nothing better than
Speaker 1: looking someone dead in the face and going, it's free,
Speaker 1: it's free ice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You're like a hero of those people.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I'm like, no, it's free, and
Speaker 1: they're like trying to pay me. I'm like, I'll take
Speaker 1: tips you that twenty I will not argue. But the
Speaker 1: ice cream itself is free, but it was really free.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I got to essentially do what I want within reason,
Speaker 1: you know. And then on top of that, I get
Speaker 1: to eat ice cream and then food trucks. Food trucks
Speaker 1: will trade ice cream for food. So if I ever
Speaker 1: want a burrito or anything, I just pull up to
Speaker 1: the next food truck. Hey, you'ren't trade, They're usually down.
Speaker 2: That's that's so, that's so funny. I was I a
Speaker 2: couple nights ago. I shout out the Parkway Theater in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: I did a show there and they I went to
Speaker 2: the concessions that the manager was like, you guys can
Speaker 2: have whatever you want from the concession stand. And we
Speaker 2: were so fucking stoked and we took popcorn and we
Speaker 2: put mic and ikes and bunch of crunch in it,
Speaker 2: and we were like so giddy, and we were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've been traveling around doing like these crazy shows and
Speaker 2: just nothing made us happier than like getting free shit
Speaker 2: from the concession stand. You know, it's power. There's really
Speaker 2: power in that. There's power in that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to even now free step is
Speaker 1: on the rise.
Speaker 2: I want to take if anyone in the chat has
Speaker 2: any questions for Angie. I want to take some questions
Speaker 2: from the chat, if they if they have any Somebody
Speaker 2: in the chat already somebody said, you can take Angie
Speaker 2: out of the ice cream truck, but you can never
Speaker 2: take the ice cream truck out of Angie.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. That's an honor. Yeah, yeah, you truly cannot.
Speaker 1: I can't live without it.
Speaker 2: It's true. Yeah, I really I feel. I feel deep
Speaker 2: ice cream truck energy within you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Even when I was doing ice cream, I
Speaker 1: did the every day of October in a different costume,
Speaker 1: and you'll pull up to the ice cream truck and
Speaker 1: there'll be a clown in there or cow, and it's great.
Speaker 2: Somebody wants to know it's your personal favorite ice cream flavor.
Speaker 1: Flavor out of all the flavors in the entire universe,
Speaker 1: mint chocolate chip is my favorite. But like basics, it's vanilla.
Speaker 1: I gotta go Vanilla.
Speaker 2: A couple of people want to know if you've ever
Speaker 2: thought about starting your own ice cream truck, like going
Speaker 2: entrepreneurial about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have, And I have a really beat
Speaker 1: down old popsicle truck sitting in my driveway right now
Speaker 1: currently on the mend really, but it's yeah, yeah, I dude, Lyle,
Speaker 1: when I tell you I'm in ice cream, I'm into
Speaker 1: ice cream. But it's like it's more work than it's
Speaker 1: going to be worse for the next two years, you know,
Speaker 1: like I just don't have it in the budget, you know.
Speaker 1: But it's getting there.
Speaker 2: It's getting there, Okay. I love I under I just
Speaker 2: want you to know. I understand the idea of like
Speaker 2: putting something off until you feel like it's just possible.
Speaker 2: But I'm giddy at the idea of you starting your
Speaker 2: own ice cream truck. I think that would be the
Speaker 2: coolest thing ever.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Lyle. Yeah, no, when you when when I have
Speaker 1: it up and running, they'll be Lyle stickers all over it.
Speaker 2: Well you will. It be called Angie's because that is
Speaker 2: a perfect name for an ice cream thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Angie's. And then it's gonna have
Speaker 1: like the little Angie's List star on the bottom.
Speaker 2: You know, dude, please do that. That's so fucking cool.
Speaker 2: So I mean not to keep going, but somebody said,
Speaker 2: does she know how easy it is to get a
Speaker 2: business loan from the government right now? You don't even
Speaker 2: have to pay it back. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: true or not. Somebody I don't know if that's true
Speaker 2: or not, but somebody in a Twitch chat did say that.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like sort of true. I guess it
Speaker 1: depends on the county you're in. Mike County has a
Speaker 1: ton of small businesses and they're like looking at my
Speaker 1: case quote unquote, you know, looking at my case.
Speaker 2: Let's see here. Someone said, well, what's the what do
Speaker 2: you think is the worst ice cream chain?
Speaker 1: Ooh uh, it's either Baskin Robbins or Coldstone.
Speaker 2: Really I love Coldstone? Why do you hit Coldstone?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Coldstone is it's so good in like specific flavors,
Speaker 1: but most of their stuff is like, uh, it's got
Speaker 1: like freezer burn on it and it just doesn't hit right,
Speaker 1: you know. Or like you go to one and there's
Speaker 1: always some like cranky fifteen year old behind the counter.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, dog, you literally an ice cream shop.
Speaker 1: You need to have more pets, like.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah yeah? Are you like, like, do you are
Speaker 2: you very uh critical when you go when you have
Speaker 2: your own ice cream experiences? Are you like this person's.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, my my my boyfriend Scott loves
Speaker 1: to like like shut me down because I'm like, behind
Speaker 1: the counter going man, he's not really scooping that very sturdy.
Speaker 1: I bet I could flip that conupside down. There's no
Speaker 1: way he can like stuff like that. Like I'm always
Speaker 1: My big thing too, is customer service. Because before I
Speaker 1: did ice cream, I worked in a restaurant, and before
Speaker 1: that I worked in a library, and before that I
Speaker 1: worked for my parents. I did house cleaning and gardening,
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of stuff. But it's like, I'm
Speaker 1: always customer service first, you know, because that's the face
Speaker 1: you're putting out there. If you want something in return
Speaker 1: or you're selling something, you should have at least have
Speaker 1: like a good attitude or aura around.
Speaker 2: You, you know. But well, well also mainly just because sorry, sorry,
Speaker 2: say I want you to let you finish.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially if someone's like miss mishandling stuff Like
Speaker 1: if I feel like somebody putting scoopers back where they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be, I'm like, that's not food safety.
Speaker 4: That's not good.
Speaker 2: Well it's also I mean it got it's good for
Speaker 2: it's good for you too, because if you're like upset
Speaker 2: about what you're it, see, it seems to me like
Speaker 2: you know, just like good customer service and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Like for you personally, it seems like it gives you energy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, somebody asked. Somebody asked, what's the trick to
Speaker 2: a perfect scoop?
Speaker 1: So, if you're going ice cream scoop? You know that
Speaker 1: like pretty ball that everybody tries to do, that's not it.
Speaker 1: You want an oval, yeah you want to and yeah,
Speaker 1: an oval shape like like an egg sort of you know,
Speaker 1: you want sort of a point. That point goes into
Speaker 1: your cone and that cone. I promise you can flip
Speaker 1: it with three scoops on top, no problem. And then
Speaker 1: if it's like a soft serve, it's all in the
Speaker 1: cone fill, everything's in the cone steal. If your cone
Speaker 1: is filled perfectly, then the rest of the cone is
Speaker 1: set up, you know, perfect, Angie.
Speaker 2: I want you to make this ice cream truck so badly.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, when it happens, you will know, well, I
Speaker 3: guess speaking of that, somebody in the chat did say,
Speaker 3: and this this is totally up to you, but somebody
Speaker 3: in the chat does want to know if you have
Speaker 3: any plugs or socials or anything.
Speaker 2: Somebody said, do you have any socials? So we can
Speaker 2: watch this stream come to life only if you want,
Speaker 2: only if you want random folks following yet to see,
Speaker 2: if your dreams, if the truck comes to fruition.
Speaker 1: All right, So if anybody wants to keep up, I
Speaker 1: actually I'm not on the internet, like I have zero
Speaker 1: social media, zero Instagram. I have zero. The only Instagram
Speaker 1: I have is for my dog, and it's just because
Speaker 1: I want. I want him to have photos forever. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want a bazillion photos on my phone,
Speaker 1: but I like taking pictures of him. Uh, that would
Speaker 1: be the only thing. And then you guys, don't worry.
Speaker 1: From there you will see my ice cream career blossom.
Speaker 1: But it would be that's the only thing I have.
Speaker 2: What's the what's the what's the dog Instagram?
Speaker 1: If you want, it's WINSTONB dotch Nedman.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to spell that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Winston w I and he s O
Speaker 1: n Winstone.
Speaker 2: And then b win win win win st Yeah dyslexic.
Speaker 1: I'm a little dyslexic. Winston like Churchill, like Winston Churchill,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then B dot und Man s n
Speaker 1: E d Man.
Speaker 2: Winston b Winston b dot Sndman Let me see if
Speaker 2: I can find this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, yeah, sorry, he's my first he's my
Speaker 1: first dog that wasn't a rescue, so I had to
Speaker 1: name him something extreme.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there he is, there, he is there is Wow. Man,
Speaker 2: you got a cool life, dude.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Lyle.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I just I just enjoy what I have, you know,
Speaker 1: I if I have it and I can, you know,
Speaker 1: breathe every day and eat food and stay warm, you know,
Speaker 1: then it's all good.
Speaker 2: Hey, this was I really enjoyed talking to you, Angie.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm inspired by by your your attitude on life.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Lyle, forever wile forever, dude. I'm watching your stuff for
Speaker 1: so long, and I'm so happy I got on a call.
Speaker 1: This was my first time ever trying to call, and
Speaker 1: and I really like what you do, Lyle. Like even
Speaker 1: though you say you dog on yourself a lot, like
Speaker 1: you always say that you don't know anything and all
Speaker 1: this stuff, but a lot of the stuff you do
Speaker 1: say is pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's all right, thank you, Ange. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I well about Actually I had one more question if
Speaker 2: you don't have any social media, how did you find
Speaker 2: that I exist?
Speaker 1: I actually my husband Scott, he's he's on Twitch and
Speaker 1: stuff and he does art and he was on Twitch.
Speaker 1: Like we like to go on Twitch just to see
Speaker 1: all the outrageous like big booby ladies who are on
Speaker 1: Twitch just shacking it. Yeah, And I were like, that
Speaker 1: does There's no way this is getting through guidelines, and
Speaker 1: it does. It's crazy, Lyle, but we always laugh at
Speaker 1: that stuff. And I was like, who's that little green
Speaker 1: guy in the corner. He was like that, I think
Speaker 1: that's Lyle and I was like, oh, and then I've
Speaker 1: been onto you ever since. I always watched the podcast
Speaker 1: on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Well kick ass, Well, thank you Angie, you rock. It
Speaker 2: was great talking to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks Lil YouTube man. Are you have a great.
Speaker 2: One you two dude?
Speaker 6: Bye?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? That what a what an awesome What
Speaker 2: an awesome caller? Man, what an awesome caller, she reminds.
Speaker 2: So I went to I went to I was in
Speaker 2: Minneapolis a couple of days ago, and I went to
Speaker 2: the Mall of America and it was the most stimulating
Speaker 2: thing I've ever There's no porn on the internet that
Speaker 2: says stimulating to the senses as the Mall of America
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, and uh we went to the Beef Jerky
Speaker 2: Experience and there was a guy there who uh like
Speaker 2: was guiding us. He like knew everything about all the
Speaker 2: beef jerky and he was like very joyously guiding us
Speaker 2: through the He literally provided a fucking beef jerky experience.
Speaker 2: And he was talking about his life and he was like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: I fucking work here, and I work at the uh
Speaker 2: the the Spicy Sauce place, uh right next door, and
Speaker 2: I'm chilling. I love beef jerky and I love life
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm sitting over here trying to figure out
Speaker 2: the meaning of how to not be depressed and ship.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I don't know, man, some people
Speaker 2: they just have these like great perspectives and fucking great
Speaker 2: kick ass energy and they're just good at being a
Speaker 2: person and it's it's uh, it's really cool. So thanks
Speaker 2: thanks for sharing your stuff with us, Angie. Once again,
Speaker 2: if you want to keep up with her, that's Winston
Speaker 2: b dot Snedman. Good stuff. Good. Hello.
Speaker 5: My name's Aaron Nice meining you man. I've been watching
Speaker 5: the show for a minute biggest, uh, biggest stream that
Speaker 5: I watched was a little YACHTI one I want to
Speaker 5: went crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks Aaron, Well what's up? How you doing? You
Speaker 2: have a I like your demeanor. You have a calm demeanor.
Speaker 5: Thank you man, I appreciate it. I wanted to call
Speaker 5: today because I'm currently twenty one about it, going on
Speaker 5: twenty two in January, and ever since, like seventeen, I've
Speaker 5: been fighting a new addiction every year. But like, I
Speaker 5: don't know if this is like in like a self
Speaker 5: deprecated way, like if life is just going crazy for me.
Speaker 5: But uh, do you want to hear a little bit
Speaker 5: about that.
Speaker 2: You've been fighting a new, a different addiction every year
Speaker 2: since seventeen?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what the l it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you want to talk about it, so check
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 5: Seventeen right seventeen, I was in high school. My first
Speaker 5: ever addiction was it was admirable, I believe.
Speaker 4: It or not?
Speaker 2: Oh, I believe.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Are you familiar with how the stimulant works?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Basically, you feel like you want to die and
Speaker 2: you can't do anything right, and that you're never gonna
Speaker 2: achieve anything at all, and you're gonna h everything. You're
Speaker 2: basically you spiral and then you take a pill and
Speaker 2: then you and then you all of a sudden get
Speaker 2: flipped and you're like, oh my god, I can actually
Speaker 2: do anything I ever want to do in my life
Speaker 2: and everything's gonna be okay, and then you crash boom.
Speaker 5: Right, That's exactly how it was going for me.
Speaker 4: I'm uh.
Speaker 5: I was a junior in high school and I was,
Speaker 5: you know, going on to the SAPs and I was like,
Speaker 5: all right, here we go, and I spiraled crazy. I
Speaker 5: lost it and then you know, I was like, screw
Speaker 5: that terrible, terrible to have and it wasn't really helping
Speaker 5: my pockets. So I was like, instead of buying it
Speaker 5: and using it, why not sell it and distribute it?
Speaker 5: And so on eighteen, I just started pushing it. But
Speaker 5: you know, that's not really an addiction. But to get
Speaker 5: out of it, I started flipping shoes and I got
Speaker 5: really addicted to selling shoes at eighteen. Man, you ever,
Speaker 5: uh you ever heard about selling shoes at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like the hype beast thing is that you call
Speaker 2: that an addiction. It sounds like you're just you're being
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I was just addicted to shoes. Man,
Speaker 5: you've you brought me any payer? Well, uh, what is
Speaker 5: chatting about?
Speaker 4: That? Is it? Is it an addiction?
Speaker 5: If you just it doesn't even matter if you're making
Speaker 5: money at that point, Well you're just pushing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, well what's what? What was nineteen.
Speaker 4: Nineteen? I went to weed.
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, I was, I was having
Speaker 5: my eyes with something that made me feel really up.
Speaker 5: What's on the flip side? What don't make me feel
Speaker 5: really low?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 5: So, I mean, you know, we it's it's one of
Speaker 5: those things where you're either you know, you're really productive
Speaker 5: on it and you're just someone who's like a superhuman
Speaker 5: and I don't know.
Speaker 4: How the hell these people do it.
Speaker 5: Or you just start like spiraling and like I guess,
Speaker 5: losing uh, losing control of everything in front of you.
Speaker 5: You know, you just start wanting to change what kind
Speaker 5: of person you are. You start looking at stuff like
Speaker 5: marshmallows all day. You know, you start you start researching the.
Speaker 4: Most random craft like hmm, what's what's a crazy one?
Speaker 5: I remember I started looking at water and like pH
Speaker 5: levels and like looking at different types of cups to
Speaker 5: sip from.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm more of a of a of a horizontal like
Speaker 5: short cup type of guy.
Speaker 4: What kind of stuff do you like drinking?
Speaker 2: Hold on, brother, I'm so confused right now because you
Speaker 2: were talking about weed. Now you're talking about looking at
Speaker 2: cups on the internet.
Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You like hyper fixate on anything.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know what we does to me,
Speaker 5: but I'm just like it just makes me really want
Speaker 5: to learn about everything, and like everything just becomes really chill.
Speaker 4: You know. It's like one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like I'll smoke weed and I'll look at
Speaker 2: the instant I'll look at the Wikipedia page of subjectivity
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, I'm gonna sit here and look
Speaker 2: at the Wikipedia page, read the whole Wikipedia page on subjectivity.
Speaker 2: But then I but then I get like, you know,
Speaker 2: two sentences in and I go do something else. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know, is there hyperfixation? How long does it
Speaker 2: stay on a track for it? Because mine is a
Speaker 2: very EIGHTYHD. I'm I'm just going all around, driving in
Speaker 2: circles around Wikipedia.
Speaker 5: I'll go like forty five minutes to an hour if
Speaker 5: a topic doesn't have me hooked and then I'll just
Speaker 5: start pushing crazy if something's like got me going. Like
Speaker 5: I remember at twenty, I just I dropped weed and
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, Crypto, you know, let me
Speaker 5: just get addicted to the big mean thing. Let me
Speaker 5: get let me get addicted to.
Speaker 4: Well what was I addicted to? It?
Speaker 5: Basically should coins just what everyone's doing now. I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, this is terrible. I'm losing all my
Speaker 5: money left and right. I'm no longer in school now,
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I went from computer science when
Speaker 5: I was like eighteen to going into being an accountant afterwards.
Speaker 5: That shit was terrible.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I feel like one of the man one of the
Speaker 5: worst addictions that I've had is definitely Crypto, just because
Speaker 5: I kept pushing you know, like a different fucking I
Speaker 5: guess strategies every single like week or so. I was
Speaker 5: started looking at trading, and you know, just you start
Speaker 5: going into all these like degenerate shits, like you start
Speaker 5: going on like all these degenerate plays. But after crypto
Speaker 5: and now twenty one, this is you know, I'm twenty
Speaker 5: one right now, I got into gambling, and so life
Speaker 5: has just been weird. I looked at what I make
Speaker 5: in a year, and I've gambled my entire salary. I
Speaker 5: went from zero to hero with this.
Speaker 2: Did you go from zero to hero and back to zero?
Speaker 2: Or are you still a hero?
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm actually breaking even right now, which
Speaker 5: is crazy.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, that's a good time to quit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'm glad you brought that up so before
Speaker 5: I turned twenty two. My thing is, if I don't
Speaker 5: break even, I'm done, you know, like I'm no longer
Speaker 5: hitting it.
Speaker 2: Hold on, what do you?
Speaker 4: What do you?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, here's here's here's I'm gonna stop you for
Speaker 2: a second. Okay, Okay, so you've you've almost broken even,
Speaker 2: is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is I'm still above the water. I'm
Speaker 5: still I'm like maybe like a grand a grand profit
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 2: Oh so why don't you? Why don't you quit now?
Speaker 5: The goal is to just keep riding the wave, you
Speaker 5: know what. Like, here's the thing. If I'm someone right
Speaker 5: who's got the I don't I got not shitty.
Speaker 2: Look, but.
Speaker 5: If I'm someone who's able to just ride the waves,
Speaker 5: and like, so far nothing bad has happened to me,
Speaker 5: why not just keep going. There's there's definitely like there's
Speaker 5: definitely like a I don't know, I feel like.
Speaker 4: It's a sign or something. You know.
Speaker 5: It's like I haven't I haven't really lost. I guess
Speaker 5: the only what do you what?
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you mean? What kind of sign?
Speaker 2: What are you? A sign of? What?
Speaker 4: I feel like it?
Speaker 5: It's it's obviously not my thing.
Speaker 4: Gambling isn't.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying I feel like my sign is that
Speaker 5: once I'm able to continue on something for a year
Speaker 5: plus and and this is right now, is this has
Speaker 5: all been negative?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: All these addictions have been pretty uh, I guess, uh,
Speaker 5: spiraling right. I feel like once I find something that's positive,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna ride that way for like ten years
Speaker 5: or some shit. And and so far I haven't I
Speaker 5: had like I don't know, I just haven't hit big
Speaker 5: on something positive.
Speaker 2: I like, my literally is, but what's your what's your name?
Speaker 2: What's your name again?
Speaker 4: Aaron? Aaron? Uh?
Speaker 2: And you're twenty one?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, what hold on? What are you
Speaker 2: in school?
Speaker 5: I was in school for computer science and I switched
Speaker 5: to accounting and after that, I'm like going on literally
Speaker 5: the whole year of just going to work instead of
Speaker 5: instead of going to school.
Speaker 4: So I'm like a year into it.
Speaker 2: And you're you're, I, look, I'm the Here's and you
Speaker 2: know this. Everyone knows this. I'm not a real therapist,
Speaker 2: but I'm interested in you. It's an interesting issue. So
Speaker 2: you're trying to find you sound like you get you
Speaker 2: get obsessed with things, like every year you have a
Speaker 2: new thing that you're obsessed with. And you're like, all right,
Speaker 2: I know that I get obsessed with stuff, so let
Speaker 2: me at least find something to get obsessed with that's positive, right.
Speaker 2: That's and then and then and you're and you're like,
Speaker 2: let me get let me see if I can land
Speaker 2: the my crazy plane on a positive runway. And then
Speaker 2: once I do, I'm gonna rock it down that runway
Speaker 2: for for forever. This is what you're saying to me.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. I feel like, once you find
Speaker 5: something positive, you are you Definitely I had the waves longer,
Speaker 5: because you know, it's like impacting you in a positive way,
Speaker 5: like from fourteen to seventeen. I Uh, I had a
Speaker 5: girlfriend in high school and uh, you know, like that
Speaker 5: shit was just great, Like I remember like, you know,
Speaker 5: it was all fucking rainbows and happiness and sunshine and shit.
Speaker 4: Now at that's.
Speaker 5: Gone, it's like, oh shit, you know, you're just you
Speaker 5: start spiraling out of it, and that's uh, maybe that's
Speaker 5: where it all started.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Maybe I just became like destructive ones once me and
Speaker 5: the girl's lazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But you feel like you became destructive once you broke
Speaker 2: up with your girlfriend four years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2: So tell me, I guess, tell me this. You're saying
Speaker 2: that you want to land this plane on something positive,
Speaker 2: right to get obsessed with what what ideas do you have?
Speaker 2: What have you been leaning towards?
Speaker 5: So, I you know, I guess I've noticed that every
Speaker 5: time that I pick up something, it's always because I
Speaker 5: started doing research on Reddit or something like. I've always
Speaker 5: just been heavily focused on using my computer to find
Speaker 5: out whatever it is I'm gonna do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 5: I guess maybe using my using my uh using my
Speaker 5: computer or something good like, I don't know if that's
Speaker 5: why I picked up coding like that was fun for
Speaker 5: a while while last year. Yeah, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: it's just with the current field that I'm in in work.
Speaker 5: I haven't touched the computer in a while to like
Speaker 5: make a program or anything.
Speaker 2: So well, well let me tell you. Well, can I
Speaker 2: just say this because this just popped into my brain.
Speaker 2: I just want you to I want you to know something, Aaron,
Speaker 2: You're not You're not insane. You're not insane. You're not insane.
Speaker 2: And the reason I think you're not insane and maybe,
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm by the way, I'm insane, So
Speaker 2: so me saying that you're not insane actually probably isn't
Speaker 2: worth much because I'm only saying you're not insane because
Speaker 2: I identify with your issue. But yet I am also insane,
Speaker 2: So maybe you actually are insane. But what what I
Speaker 2: The reason I said that is because the does Sometimes
Speaker 2: I really feel like life is just uh you need
Speaker 2: to distract yourself until you die, uh because if you don't,
Speaker 2: you will slip into a pit of existential dread and
Speaker 2: uh some and it's like you you can either really
Speaker 2: distract yourself, well, most most people on Earth are distracting
Speaker 2: themselves with their own survival. That's like most people. And
Speaker 2: then if you are fucking lucky, if you're a blessed
Speaker 2: lucky human being. Survival doesn't doesn't isn't the main thing
Speaker 2: that's distracting you from the void. And if you're that lucky,
Speaker 2: you can be distracted from the void through your relationships
Speaker 2: like this girlfriend you were talking about, or through passions,
Speaker 2: a career that you chose or whatever, like like the
Speaker 2: fucking sneakers, or you distract yourself, or you distract yourself
Speaker 2: with drugs and getting high all the time and doing
Speaker 2: getting drunk all the time. But yeah, the struggle that
Speaker 2: you're having of like I need to distract myself with
Speaker 2: something or else I will go my my idle hands
Speaker 2: will reach for the nearest fucking gun. And yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: not that far, but but you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you just will just go insane, You'll go crazy. So, yes,
Speaker 2: I understand the whole, the whole. I'm getting a d
Speaker 2: You're framing it like it's such a crazy thing to
Speaker 2: need something for your brain to land on, for you
Speaker 2: to not not want to kill yourself. But it makes sense,
Speaker 2: So I get you. I'm in the same boat as that,
Speaker 2: and I think I think it's true, and I want
Speaker 2: you to hold that thought for a second, but I
Speaker 2: think I'm just in my personal experience with this, and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm also you know, the the idea of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: let me at least find something that's good, that's not
Speaker 2: gonna drive me crazy, that's not gonna cause me to
Speaker 2: lose all my fucking money, that's not gonna cause my
Speaker 2: health to shoot into the fucking gutter. Yeah, you have
Speaker 2: a you're on a certain I think that makes sense
Speaker 2: to try to take all this energy and putting into
Speaker 2: something else, but something that's good. So what were you
Speaker 2: gonna say?
Speaker 4: Man? You lost me.
Speaker 5: Those are beautiful words. I lost my thought going on
Speaker 5: to that though.
Speaker 4: Man, it's.
Speaker 2: Why I was talking and you said, I hold on,
Speaker 2: I was talking and you said, you know, you said
Speaker 2: you said to me, You're like, you know what it is,
Speaker 2: you know what it is, And then you're gonna say something,
Speaker 2: you know what it.
Speaker 4: Is, you know what it is. It's that, Uh. I think.
Speaker 5: Throughout all the drugs that I've taken, throughout all the
Speaker 5: you know girls that I've talked to, whatever it is,
Speaker 5: it's the the addictions that I claim to have that
Speaker 5: like I guess you said weed was really an addiction,
Speaker 5: and like searching for something positive isn't always an addiction.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I said weed isn't an addiction,
Speaker 2: but go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 5: Throughout throughout the space. I've noticed that, like, I guess
Speaker 5: I just became like, well, I went from being like
Speaker 5: a shooting star. You know, I really patted myself on
Speaker 5: the back at seventeen for having like a I think
Speaker 5: it was like a one hundred and thirty four i Q.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I was some fucking I'm I'm somewhat smart, right,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm someone half smart. I have somewhat of a brain.
Speaker 5: From from being a shooting star to now, like you know,
Speaker 5: just living a regular life.
Speaker 4: You know, at one.
Speaker 5: Point with the shoe that I was making like a
Speaker 5: good I think it was like eighty ninety grand from
Speaker 5: being a shooting star making some decent money. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: now just like feeling burnt out. I feel like the
Speaker 5: distractions has helped me along the way to, like I
Speaker 5: guess remind myself that, like I could have it way worse,
Speaker 5: you know. I feel like, yeah, maybe know just being
Speaker 5: burnt out, maybe just taking losses along the way, shaping
Speaker 5: myself back up being a regular person. Yeah, maybe maybe
Speaker 5: it was for the better man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I think so too. That's that's
Speaker 2: the journey I'm on right now, is I'm I just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't, But I don't know if this is resonates
Speaker 2: with you or if it's what we're talking about. But
Speaker 2: I've I've I just finished my uh final like tour,
Speaker 2: and I've been running around for two years trying to
Speaker 2: distract myself from uh, you know, existential thought and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And I'm also it's been very high highs and low lows.
Speaker 2: And I'm also like, let me just kind of keep
Speaker 2: get things normal, get things on a steady chill, not
Speaker 2: crazy pace. Okay, is that is that? Did I interrupt
Speaker 2: what you were saying to talk about something completely random
Speaker 2: or does that make sense?
Speaker 5: No, it makes sense that you've had high highs and
Speaker 5: low lows, but you just like cut yourself off.
Speaker 4: Made sense?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry? Oh I thought I thought I finished that thought. Shit,
Speaker 2: what the fuck were we talking? What were we talking about?
Speaker 5: Being burnt out?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, yes, yes, being burnt out. Yes, being burnt out,
Speaker 2: and yes I feel burnt out. And now I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know, I don't know. Man, I
Speaker 2: wish I had fucking answers for you, but this, uh,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't at all. I don't at all.
Speaker 2: I think I think. I mean, you're twenty to your
Speaker 2: you're you've got uh I'm like five six years older
Speaker 2: than you something like that, and I'm feeling pretty burnt out.
Speaker 2: And it's like, if you're feeling burnt out, now, maybe
Speaker 2: cut yourself a little bit of a break and step
Speaker 2: back and try to approach it, approach this a little
Speaker 2: more patiently, I suppose.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm not. I'm not one for patience. I think
Speaker 5: that's that's part of the issue.
Speaker 2: I've definitely like, if if that's your wiring, go ahead,
Speaker 2: just don't don't hurt yourself or other people or or
Speaker 2: lose all your money. Just just I think it's okay.
Speaker 2: I think it's okay for you to be uh, be
Speaker 2: a be a crazy guy and and and and do
Speaker 2: you know, go ham and do your crazy stuff, but
Speaker 2: just be careful a little bit. Have have a couple
Speaker 2: of of uh, you know, rules in place, you know,
Speaker 2: don't you know what I mean? Like like like, it's okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay to be obsessed with things and keep keep
Speaker 2: going down following your obsessions. But don't don't kill anyone,
Speaker 2: including you know, don't yourself. Don't do anything too fucking crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's tough. But I gotta ask about the tour.
Speaker 5: So did you take any drugs on the tour?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, not like every day?
Speaker 4: Not every day? Damn.
Speaker 5: Can you get into specifics about that on on stream
Speaker 5: or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it's nothing, I dude me, it's I was.
Speaker 2: I was just in Europe and uh, me and my
Speaker 2: buddy David, who went with me, we were sitting in
Speaker 2: our hotel room, uh eating Mike and Ikes, were just
Speaker 2: eating a bunch of mic and Ikes, and we were like,
Speaker 2: we were like, man, people people people keep people are
Speaker 2: People are like, oh, tour must be so crazy, and
Speaker 2: it's just us in twin beds eating Mike and Ikes.
Speaker 2: I mean I did cocaine once, but just a little bit.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that crazy though, it was. It's whatnot. It
Speaker 2: wasn't that. It's not that crazy. It's more it's like
Speaker 2: it's like one time doing that and then most nights
Speaker 2: just eating drinking a Coca cola at night. I don't
Speaker 2: usually drink it. I don't usually drink them at night
Speaker 2: because there's too much caffeine.
Speaker 5: Man, we are on different boats. I I guess that's
Speaker 5: the one that I never beat.
Speaker 4: Caffeine.
Speaker 5: That was like since I was like three four years old.
Speaker 5: My grandma gave me like a cup of coffee and
Speaker 5: a pizza bread, and I've just been running with it
Speaker 5: ever since, you know, drinking coffee every day. But I
Speaker 5: think that's the one thing that I'll never do. And crazy,
Speaker 5: you know, I've fucking I've been on LSD seen my
Speaker 5: fucking future and shit fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's you said you said you saw your future
Speaker 2: on LSD.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's well, you know, it's you're you're hallucinating,
Speaker 5: so it's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: But I saw some pretty crazy shit.
Speaker 5: Like I saw myself basically like living.
Speaker 4: In a.
Speaker 5: It was like a high rise or something with my
Speaker 5: feet like like I was like sitting down a little
Speaker 5: like deck looking over the city.
Speaker 4: Of Chicago because that's where I'm from. Like just.
Speaker 5: Like and I woke up and I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 5: Like it started off with me, you know, just closing
Speaker 5: my eyes and I was loosening just seeing ship. And
Speaker 5: then I wake up hours later and I was like, oh, shit,
Speaker 5: like it was like this hallucination was just like it
Speaker 5: also just expended into a dream and like seeing ship
Speaker 5: like that, Like it's like, how do I put this?
Speaker 5: Like basically seeing what a hallucination version of my life
Speaker 5: would have been and then going back to like just
Speaker 5: being a burnt out star. I was like, either I
Speaker 5: fixed my.
Speaker 2: Life, now I'm gonna let you finish, and then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna let you finish and then I'll.
Speaker 5: Okay being on that like bright bright star, being like,
Speaker 5: you know, fucking pushing myself to the limits, hat holding
Speaker 5: myself up to high standards and being in the one
Speaker 5: percent of amongst my peers, like I guess financially and educationally,
Speaker 5: so now fucking losing it all and basically like feeling
Speaker 5: like I have no you know, I'm not even I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not, I'm not I'm not even in college anymore.
Speaker 5: And I see all of my peers about it, fucking
Speaker 5: get their bachelors and ship, like seeing seeing the difference
Speaker 5: in life among the years where I kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: just spiraled out. It's kind of like blowing. It's kind
Speaker 5: of like fucking with my head where I'm like I
Speaker 5: can either make that hallucination true, or I just fucking
Speaker 5: blew it all and like picking up the drugs fucked
Speaker 5: me up?
Speaker 2: You're can I I have so many observations about uh
Speaker 2: what you what you just said? If I can't, what's up?
Speaker 4: What up? Go for it?
Speaker 2: A few of them and by the and also by
Speaker 2: the way, my hypocrites. So everything I'm telling you, I'm
Speaker 2: just telling myself because I struggle with a lot of
Speaker 2: these things too. Is one is that these what just
Speaker 2: I mean, the greatest poison is comparing yourself to other people,
Speaker 2: especially when you're young, just being you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: being like, oh, my friends are graduating and I'm doing
Speaker 2: It's like who gives a who fucking cares what anyone
Speaker 2: else is doing? It was number one and then two
Speaker 2: is like this, You're you're You're playing a crazy game
Speaker 2: with yourself right now.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: You're like, You're like, oh, either I either I need
Speaker 2: to be in the top one percent financially of everyone
Speaker 2: in my age group and I need to you know,
Speaker 2: uh uh uh uh fucking have a have a super
Speaker 2: successful whatever, or I lost it all and I suck
Speaker 2: and I need to die. It's like, well, don't that's
Speaker 2: too much. That's too much. There's too much. And also,
Speaker 2: by the way, a lot of those things don't matter.
Speaker 2: I've learned this because I've been there, and now I'm
Speaker 2: looking back at things kind of retroactively, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff I thought matter doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: There's a few things that matter. And it's like, are
Speaker 2: you when you wake up? Are you do you feel
Speaker 2: sane and happy? And are you are you are you
Speaker 2: genuinely enjoying whatever it is you're about to go do?
Speaker 2: And then two, are you around other people who you
Speaker 2: like and make you and don't make you feel like
Speaker 2: you're alone?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Those are really the two things that I've identified matter
Speaker 2: because you can because everything else isn't really a road
Speaker 2: to anywhere, right, Like, like, you could have the most
Speaker 2: successful sneaker company ever, you could be the kingpin of sneakers.
Speaker 2: But if you don't if you don't actually care about
Speaker 2: selling sneakers, if you don't care about the process of
Speaker 2: selling your sneakers, and and if you've made enough money
Speaker 2: and now you're just making more just because I what
Speaker 2: are you even doing?
Speaker 5: Just you know, show No, I'm not even at sneakers.
Speaker 5: I ended up losing at all. They long story short,
Speaker 5: there's a way you can sell your sneakers where you
Speaker 5: put them in different sneakers stories around the country, and
Speaker 5: once they sell it, they take us like pen ten
Speaker 5: percent and they give you back your money. A whole
Speaker 5: bunch of stories during COVID just kind of ran off
Speaker 5: with everyone's money and I lost that, so I had
Speaker 5: to build up my money again by working. But that
Speaker 5: that whole comparison party about, you know, just being an
Speaker 5: extremist and having comparison just like deeply engraved into me.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I've just been kind of like always drilling
Speaker 5: that into my head to kind of be wanting to
Speaker 5: be the very best, like fucking ash catch like it's
Speaker 5: just it's part of I guess, just well do it.
Speaker 2: Just do me a favorite. And I actually think I
Speaker 2: don't want to discount that fully because I don't think
Speaker 2: ambition is inherently bad. I don't. But just just do
Speaker 2: me when you when you when you will. I can't
Speaker 2: do this for you, but like take a second, whether
Speaker 2: it's today or tomorrow, just really sit down and journal
Speaker 2: or meditate and just be like take that that that
Speaker 2: thing of like I gotta be the best and take
Speaker 2: your ambition and throw it on the table and go, okay,
Speaker 2: in what and be honest with yourself and go in
Speaker 2: what arenas has this thing made my life better? And
Speaker 2: then in what arenas has this thing made my life worse?
Speaker 2: And try to be honest with yourself about the answers
Speaker 2: to that, and then see see what you find it
Speaker 2: could be helpful information.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that. I just.
Speaker 5: I guess off of that, you pick out what areas
Speaker 5: of life you'd like to focus on, and then you
Speaker 5: start pushing towards those general categories more and building up
Speaker 5: something positive.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh well, I guess so well, like one other thing,
Speaker 2: one another thing before or just what is the whole
Speaker 2: the whole concept of you lost everything? Just so you know,
Speaker 2: is that whatever is inside of you that was able
Speaker 2: to create anything in the first place is no no
Speaker 2: one can ever take that away from you. That can't
Speaker 2: be lost. That's like, that's the only thing you truly
Speaker 2: even have. And so when you think you've lost everything,
Speaker 2: you you really haven't because you're a young guy and
Speaker 2: you have the you have whatever it is that caused
Speaker 2: you to ever have anything in the first place. So, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, don't don't forget that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Well don't don't do cocaine. I always said I did cocaine,
Speaker 2: but don't do it. I didn't even do that much.
Speaker 5: Look that's an upper man you. It was so bad
Speaker 5: off admile man. I'm telling you, it was so bad
Speaker 5: that I'm just like, coke is just a whole nother
Speaker 5: drag and I never want to ride.
Speaker 4: On you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that, Yeah, well I do you can? I just
Speaker 2: drink celsius. That that's my that's like my mini at
Speaker 2: a role.
Speaker 5: It's awesome, And celsius is nothing. I remember, like, like
Speaker 5: I'm telling you. The caffeine thing, it's actually the one
Speaker 5: that I'm trying to fight right now, is actually like
Speaker 5: a month a month and a half of the caffeine.
Speaker 5: But right before I decided this, I remember I was
Speaker 5: doing like maybe like four three cels three celsius a day.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have you have no idea, You
Speaker 2: have no idea how much celsius related diarrhea. I am
Speaker 2: trying not to, trying to contain so I can talk
Speaker 2: to you right now, Aaron, Aaron, is there anything else
Speaker 2: you want to say? To the people of the computer
Speaker 2: before we go.
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, to the extremists that might be
Speaker 5: on the same boat as me. I guess Gecko is
Speaker 5: really taught, is that, you know? It's just it's all
Speaker 5: on your heads.
Speaker 2: Guess Gecko's got to teach himself. It's all on his.
Speaker 4: Head, you know what.
Speaker 5: After the tour and everything, man, you kind of have
Speaker 5: to feel yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My words to you men, hopefully it's not a year
Speaker 5: that you're going to take off that you know, you're
Speaker 5: gonna maybe lose forty pounds or whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what exactly your goal.
Speaker 2: Is with that. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, but.
Speaker 5: Everyone, I guess it's about the friends you make along
Speaker 5: the way, you know what?
Speaker 2: It surefucking is it, surefucking is. Thanks for calling Aaron.
Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 5: It's been a pleasure, man, Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'll keep watching. Have a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good call. I like talking to
Speaker 2: that guy. Uh, It's it's cool. It's cool when I
Speaker 2: like doing this because it's fun. It's fun listening to
Speaker 2: other people trying to figure out life, and I kind
Speaker 2: of get to in this one little moment sort of
Speaker 2: talk talk with them about figuring it out. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I really do feel that way sometimes. I
Speaker 2: really do feel that way sometimes that like we're just
Speaker 2: I'm just I just need to distract myself, even like
Speaker 2: beautiful things like uh, like you're like relationships with people
Speaker 2: that you care about and passions that are meaningful, they're
Speaker 2: all I guess there are you. They're just distractions that
Speaker 2: you need. You need distractions or else you're gonna go
Speaker 2: and go completely insane. So I don't think that well,
Speaker 2: I guess what I heard from Aaron as I heard
Speaker 2: a guy who was looking for something to get into
Speaker 2: so that you can. I don't know when it comes
Speaker 2: to like it just I'm speaking purely of my own experience.
Speaker 2: When it comes to like depression and anxiety, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm always you're always running away from it. Hey,
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I'm trying to deal with it,
Speaker 2: but I'm always you're running away from it, and you can.
Speaker 2: There's healthy ways to run away from it, like through
Speaker 2: building positive relationships and uh passions and hobbies and things
Speaker 2: that keep you grounded in real life. And then there's
Speaker 2: of course uh fentanyl and uh uh mike and ice.
Speaker 2: But I hopefully you find something and then you do okay,
Speaker 2: and then uh you die surrounded by dogs, and and
Speaker 2: that was it. I hope, I hope, I hope I
Speaker 2: made any amount of sense rambling just now. And and
Speaker 2: let's and and let's take another call. Hey man, what's
Speaker 2: your name, Jeremiah? Jeremiah? What's up, Jeremiah? How's life?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: Going good? Going good?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: A little nervous, don't be, don't be. There's this is
Speaker 2: this is This might be one of the lowest stakes
Speaker 2: things you ever do with your entire life. You've taken
Speaker 2: math tests in elementary school with higher stakes than this.
Speaker 2: What's up, Jeremiah? What would you would you want to
Speaker 2: talk about today?
Speaker 6: I don't know, kind of just uh, just sided the call. Okay,
Speaker 6: let's see.
Speaker 7: I've been thinking a lot about joining.
Speaker 6: Like the military right now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I don't know how like like a
Speaker 7: lot of my friends and stuff aren't very uh supportive
Speaker 7: of it. They don't like, they don't they don't like
Speaker 7: the idea.
Speaker 2: How old are you? Twenty twenty? Okay? What what are
Speaker 2: your reasons for joining the military.
Speaker 7: So this is where this is where a lot of
Speaker 7: my buddies are like, so I'm wanting to join. I've
Speaker 7: always thought of joining, Like I'm a physical guy, like
Speaker 7: going to the gym, working out stuff like that. So
Speaker 7: it's always seemed pretty cool. But it was always like
Speaker 7: the like the like the loneliness of it, like going
Speaker 7: in by yourself, scared of making friends and stuff. But
Speaker 7: now you know, I got a girlfriend and stuff. She's
Speaker 7: in the military, and I can go in, go through
Speaker 7: basic and stuff, and then be in her unit and
Speaker 7: be like just like in the military with her. But
Speaker 7: my buddies are like, ooh, that's you know what if
Speaker 7: it didn't work out and then you're in the military
Speaker 7: by yourself.
Speaker 2: So I have to add I I think that's a
Speaker 2: bad reason to join the military, right, right do you
Speaker 2: have if your girlfriend were not in that unit and
Speaker 2: you were going in alone, would you still want to talk?
Speaker 7: See that's where because like it's like right now, I
Speaker 7: worked at like h org at the gas station, and
Speaker 7: I don't know, it's just getting it's getting. Uh what's
Speaker 7: the word monotonous? Sure, I think it's the word, or
Speaker 7: like I just wake up, come to work, go home,
Speaker 7: or go to the gym, then go home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking you're looking to spice up. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: looking to spice things up? Yeah, why did you? Is that?
Speaker 4: Ok?
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with the military is like you have
Speaker 2: to sign a little contract where it's like they kind
Speaker 2: of right. Yeah, that's what that's the big thing I
Speaker 2: don't like about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, that's that's what's always kept me from doing it,
Speaker 7: because it's like, oh, man, you know, I signed this
Speaker 7: piece of paper and that's it, and there is no
Speaker 7: Well I don't want to do it no more.
Speaker 2: Yeah tick backs no, Yeah, twenty twenty is a little
Speaker 2: young to I mean, look, here's the thing I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna I've I have a friend who joined the military,
Speaker 2: and it's he's had a really positive experience. And you know,
Speaker 2: I've talked to people on this show who've had positive
Speaker 2: experiences joining the military and conversely people who've had horrible
Speaker 2: experiences joining the military. But I think, again, it's it's
Speaker 2: one of those sort of individual decisions. And if you're
Speaker 2: only if your only thing is well, my girlfriend's in it,
Speaker 2: I think that's a bad thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah no, I mean so like she tells me, so
Speaker 7: she's been in there for a little bit, and you know,
Speaker 7: she'll tell me about like what she does and stuff,
Speaker 7: and like, you know, it comes back to the like
Speaker 7: her life in the military seems so much more interesting
Speaker 7: than it does cleaning up shit after truckers, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's let's get into that. What is it
Speaker 2: about her life in the military that's exciting to you?
Speaker 7: I don't know, like being around a bunch of people
Speaker 7: kind of all doing the same thing. Yeah, they get
Speaker 7: in Like I love I love working out. Being in
Speaker 7: the gym is a big part of like just what
Speaker 7: I really enjoyed doing. Yeah, and you know they do
Speaker 7: that as like things like they do that as a job.
Speaker 7: They travel, and it just seems just like that's just
Speaker 7: that's that's really cool, you know.
Speaker 2: Cool. So look, here's what I would say is you
Speaker 2: have these you don't expressly want to join the military,
Speaker 2: but you expressly want to. You've ident this is good,
Speaker 2: You've identified like, Okay, I want to be around other people,
Speaker 2: I want something that's communal, I like things that I
Speaker 2: like being physically active, and I want to travel. And
Speaker 2: I would I would I would write those three things
Speaker 2: down and I would be like, let's come up with
Speaker 2: some ideas that are just joining the military where you
Speaker 2: can kind of fulfill those goals because those are I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you can do under the
Speaker 2: umbrella of those three things that aren't just joining the military.
Speaker 2: Have you thought about that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, it just seems it seems very uh.
Speaker 7: I guess, like I don't know how to put it.
Speaker 7: Like I just like when I try to think of
Speaker 7: something like you know what I could do, I pull blanks,
Speaker 7: you know, like, Okay, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to expressly dissuade you from
Speaker 2: it because now that now that you have identified three
Speaker 2: things that aren't just the fact that your girlfriend's in there,
Speaker 2: how long how long do you have to sign y'all
Speaker 2: your your life away for?
Speaker 7: So I think it's like it's like five years of
Speaker 7: like on, yeah, on, like like you're working, you're doing
Speaker 7: military stuff, and then I think it's another like three
Speaker 7: years of like, yeah, hey, if World War three happens,
Speaker 7: we're coming to get you. You're coming with us, and
Speaker 7: they're gonna, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, they want you for eight years.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's typically they want god.
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, you can look, brother, you could find a
Speaker 2: better job to just work outside, you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is good though.
Speaker 2: This is you've identified uh three things that you want
Speaker 2: out of your life. Mm hmmm, Uh are you have
Speaker 2: you have you sort of really tried to brainstorm other
Speaker 2: things that could satisfy that, but that aren't just signing
Speaker 2: an eight year contract.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, I've always like I've always like thought about so,
Speaker 7: like I got a bunch of buddies. They like the
Speaker 7: gym too, and we've always like said that we would
Speaker 7: want to like, uh like start a gym up and
Speaker 7: like just on our own gym because like in my mind,
Speaker 7: that sounds like that way I could be. I'd be
Speaker 7: around people that work out, I'd be making money off
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 2: Uh cool.
Speaker 7: Like anytime I would have like friends or something come
Speaker 7: to the gym with me for the first time, I've
Speaker 7: always like it. It It made me feel good to
Speaker 7: like teach them something that I've been doing for a
Speaker 7: long time and helping them reach their goal. That sounds
Speaker 7: you know, I like that, But it's a that's I
Speaker 7: feel like, that's like starting up a gym. That's just
Speaker 7: something you know, I'm twenty, I ain't got a whole
Speaker 7: lot of money, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, how that like, can you become
Speaker 2: a personal trainer?
Speaker 7: I've looked into it, but it seems like there's like
Speaker 7: a lot of uh like you gotta like.
Speaker 4: A lot of them.
Speaker 7: Is like you got to like go to college and
Speaker 7: be like uh like good with uh like you know,
Speaker 7: on the specifics and stuff like I don't know.
Speaker 2: How about a having that thing much? How about like
Speaker 2: being being like a firefighter.
Speaker 7: You know, I've definitely I'll put thought into that, but uh,
Speaker 7: i'd have to stop smoking. That's one of the few
Speaker 7: things that kind of stopped me from doing that.
Speaker 2: But weed or cigarettes, uh we oh, I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a terrible idea to stop smoking weeds.
Speaker 7: No, No, it's it's not.
Speaker 2: Well, definitely, go ahead.
Speaker 4: You go ahead.
Speaker 7: No, I've definitely thought about being a firefighter, but it's
Speaker 7: always what's always worried me about that is just like
Speaker 7: the like the pay and stuff, which I know you're
Speaker 7: not supposed to worry about pay. I guess, you know,
Speaker 7: you know, but like I kind of live. I still
Speaker 7: live with my parents right now, which is you know,
Speaker 7: it's good, you know, I don't I don't have to
Speaker 7: pay bills or nothing really, so that's you know, it's
Speaker 7: always good to save my mind, but you know, eventually
Speaker 7: I kind of want to I'm wanting to move out,
Speaker 7: try to get an apartment.
Speaker 2: M hm, well, he like here, I guess. Here's what
Speaker 2: I would say is if hopefully, if you gleaned anything
Speaker 2: from the phone call, it's like you've identified three things
Speaker 2: that you want is to work outside, be around other people,
Speaker 2: and uh, travel, And I would say I'm a big
Speaker 2: fan of like kind of doing away with commitments to vessels,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, Like, like the military is just
Speaker 2: a vessel for these underlying desires that you have. And
Speaker 2: I believe that there's there's a multiple different vessels that
Speaker 2: you perhaps haven't thought about yet that could fulfill those
Speaker 2: underlying desires. So I wouldn't I wouldn't laser focus in
Speaker 2: on the one vessel that you've identified that require is
Speaker 2: you to you know, sign a contract for eight years
Speaker 2: and go kill a bunch of people in some place, right,
Speaker 2: unless unless you like killing people. Some people like killing
Speaker 2: people some people.
Speaker 7: What's your name again, Jeremiah?
Speaker 2: Jeremiah? Was it? Did you? Was this a good phone
Speaker 2: call for you? Did you? This is helpful?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I'm surprised that I even got through nice.
Speaker 2: Well, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: Ah? God, bless I hope you have a good one get.
Speaker 2: Thank you Jeremiah, you take care you too. Life is crazy,
Speaker 2: goes on line taking was teaching you exp