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Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake gets suspended Cow's COVID rules causing Arizona win.

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Speaker 1: And of course we have to recap week ten, preview

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Speaker 1: week eleven, and you know what else, college basketball is starting.

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Speaker 1: I'm George rice Stir, He's Ralph Ampston, and this is

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Apostles. This is the podcast BIPAC twelve fans,

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Speaker 1: four Pack twelve fans and college football fans alike who

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Speaker 1: to have somebody come in and like demand that kind

429
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: of attention, to demand the ball the way of Drake

430
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: London uh is at usc So you have to say,

431
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: if everybody's just kind of above average on the outside,

432
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: then you have to give more credit to Anthony Brown

433
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: or there's people who would look at that and say,

434
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: maybe it's his fault. But I don't know. I think

435
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: there's still not a single player on the team. Uh,

436
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: that is a receiver that is averaging three catches a game.

437
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Not even Travis Dies averaging three catches a game. He's

438
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: just below it. And so it's pretty wild that Oregon

439
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: is sitting where they're at right now without a dominant

440
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: offensive performer, uh in the receiver position. Yeah, that's coming

441
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: that it's being done by committee and yeah, and a

442
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: lot of that is Devin Williams stepping up now onto

443
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: the game from Friday night, Utah at Stanford. This was

444
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: a blood bath, dude, fifty two to seven, I mean,

445
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: good god, ta Bean Thomas is probably gonna be Packed

446
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: twelve Player of the Year, I mean, or maybe Michael

447
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: Bernard or t J Pledger who all all, yes, all

448
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: three of those guys rushed for one hundred yards against Stanford.

449
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Stanford gave up four hundred and forty one yards rushing

450
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: and six touchdowns. Ro I, those are passing numbers. Those

451
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: are numbers that you give up when you're playing against

452
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: USC in a shootout, or or Mike Leach Washington State teams.

453
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: This is that was embarrassing, Bro, that was a new

454
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: load for Stanford. I shut this game off. I almost

455
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: never do that. I shut this game off at it

456
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: was thirty eight to zero at at half. Yeah, that's

457
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: that's that's where I quit. Um, I didn't. I just

458
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: I did not think that there was a single thing

459
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: that I was gonna learn from Stanford and the second half,

460
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: no matter what I knew, they weren't gonna come back

461
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: to win. But I just didn't think that there was

462
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: anything that I was There's just not a single thing

463
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: that I would know about Stanford based on the last

464
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: two quarters that I didn't already know. And come to

465
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: find out, you know, Utah scoring two more times. It's

466
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: just incredibly disrespectful. Uh, that way put everybody in Bro.

467
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: They ran it forty they only threw the twenty two times.

468
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: What else do you want him to do? Due to

469
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: fifty two to seven. I mean, this was a case

470
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: of Utah just bloodgeoning them. I mean, what what what

471
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: other word can we can we use? And Utah has

472
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: now won five out of their last six games. The

473
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: only game they lost was against Oregon State, and they

474
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: have just been just road grading people. Yeah, Hey, how

475
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: sick was that Devin Lloyd in or reception? Yes, like

476
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: that was You never replicate that again if you tried.

477
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: And he also had five tackles for a long he

478
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: pretty much wrapped up Pack twelve defensive Player of the Year. Um,

479
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: assuming assuming voters look at Devin Lloyd and say, like, oh,

480
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: he got three more games in th Cabon. It's really

481
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: the games between Utah and Oregon are actually probably gonna

482
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: matter most for whether or not Cabon, Thibodeau or Devin

483
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: Lloyd has taken home hardware at the end of the season,

484
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: or or Travis die or Um or Thomas. Yeah, I

485
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: could see that it took Thomas a while to get there.

486
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: Um It's crazy to me is that Tavian Thomas could

487
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: be the feature back at Cincinnati right now had he

488
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: not transferred. I know, that's that's wild, dude. I mean

489
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: he's got he could help Cincinnati. He could help Cincinnatibody

490
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: beating Oregon. He could help his old team. Can't do

491
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: it all right? Uh. The next game up, we had

492
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: cow at Arizona. Arizona broke their twenty game losing streak

493
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: over seven hundred and some odd days, two full years

494
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: from uh the time that they won a football game.

495
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: They won ten to three. It was zero zero at halftime. Ralph,

496
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: this was I felt like a crazy person for watching

497
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: that game. I was like, I must be a sicko

498
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: because I saw you tweet that out. Uh. It is terrible.

499
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: And I've heard a lot of people in the aftermath

500
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: of this Arizona win say that a win is a win,

501
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna remember that it came against a team

502
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: that had one third of their team held out by

503
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: the state of California or the city of Berkeley or whatever.

504
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Um No, that is not true. I absolutely put a

505
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: giant asterisk yes, big time. I think it would. It

506
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: could have been competitive either way. Uh, And if I'm Arizona,

507
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: then you know I'll take the win. But I'm also

508
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: frustrated that like that there are people like me out

509
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: there that are gonna look at that win and be like, Okay,

510
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: nice win, Like nice win. Come on, dude, it just

511
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: took all and and I know this that this had

512
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: to take all the wind out of Arizona sales because

513
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: it was a win. But you're sitting there like, but

514
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: but did we really what we have won this game anyway?

515
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: They uh, yeah, that that's a good question. They did

516
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: move the ball pretty well, um in in stages in

517
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: this game, I think they uh they outgained Cal like

518
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: three to one one three forty yards two hundred two

519
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: total yards for Cal. Cal had nobody though, ye like

520
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: literally had nobody. It was. It was really terrible to watch.

521
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: Will Plummer showed some toughness. He still threw two pigs,

522
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: but he got his shoulder banged up. He had a

523
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: cut in his hand. There's blood everywhere, and they stuck

524
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: it out and you could you could genuine like when

525
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: that game was three three in Arizona was driving at

526
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: the end, it felt very inevitable. Like the depth of

527
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: Cal was so low that the fact that they were

528
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they were playing true freshman that shouldn't be

529
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: on the field yet it was. It was brutal man

530
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: it was and and and shout out to the guys

531
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: who went out there and and and and just did

532
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: what they could for cal Um. I'm not mad at them.

533
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: You know, Daniel Scott eight solo tackles. They um, Cameron

534
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: good had a sack, Ethan Saunders had a sack. They

535
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: had three interceptions as a team. Um, they did what

536
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: they could to put the offense in in a position

537
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: to win. I was at one point yelling at the

538
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: television because they Ryan Glover just wasn't getting it done.

539
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: And they had a guy named Kai Milner who I

540
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: watched play at Arizona High School football of course, uh

541
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: down here and I just wanted, you know, them to

542
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: to give him a shot to go out there and

543
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: do something. And and they stuck with Glover all the

544
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: way through. He finished with yards passing. He didn't turn

545
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: the ball over. Um, but they didn't move the ball.

546
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: And that was the um. You know that that was

547
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: definitely the worst part. And in Arizona's defense, you know,

548
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: Keian Bars had uh two and a half sacks plus

549
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: a dick punch. I don't know if you caught that. Yes,

550
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: I only saw it because you posted it on Twitter.

551
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: That's the only reason why I saw it key on

552
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: bars Dick punch was worse than Jimmy Legg's back shove. Yeah, dude,

553
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: because he turned around on the ground and just full

554
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: on just you could see him slowly make a fist.

555
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh that was bad. Bad. Don't do that if you,

556
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: if you're out there you're considering doing it, don't. It's awful, man.

557
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to completely rain on Arizona's parade.

558
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: They gotta win. I when the students rushed the field,

559
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I had two thoughts. One, hell yes, because if you

560
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: go to University of Arizona, this might be the first

561
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: time you've ever seen a win. Uh. And two Cow's

562
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: entire team just got held out due to COVID. Please

563
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: don't breathe on the players, right, they only had like

564
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: thirty players. I was like, you're gonna find out Arizona

565
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: next week is now missing thirty players because the students

566
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: rust the field. Alright. Uh. Oregon State at Colorado this

567
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: was a shocking result. Shocking result which led to Oregon

568
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: State's defensive core Neator, being fired. Because Colorado they have

569
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: not They got their third win and they won this

570
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: game in overtime thirty seven to thirty four, Colorado scoring

571
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: thirty seven points. Let me read to you their previous

572
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: point totals seven seven, zero, thirteen, fourteen zero, three, twenty

573
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: nine and now thirty four. Bro, I'm sorry thirty seven.

574
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: I apologize. How shocking. When as the game was going on,

575
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is going on? Because

576
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Colorado was up I think ten, ten, zero, then I

577
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: think zero, then thirteen ten at halftime. Then I was like, Okay,

578
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: Oregon State starting to come back. And it never materialized.

579
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: Bro never did right. And I think the one thing

580
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: that Oregon State has shown this year is that they

581
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: are not to come from behind team they need at home, man,

582
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: um um you know. And and so for for Brendan

583
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: Lewis to lead to scoring drives in the first quarter

584
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: that really won them this game because it put it

585
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: put Oregon State in a position where there back was

586
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: against the wall all game long. Um, Brendan Lewis. Say

587
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: what you want about his inability to move the team

588
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: down the field, he still didn't turn the ball over much.

589
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't. He doesn't like take away chances for your team.

590
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: He's got how many how many uh interceptions do you

591
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: think he has? Over the course of the season nine games,

592
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: three that is correct, three interceptions and so he and

593
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: that also is more infuriating because they're not able to

594
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: score more even though they're like that's the thing, like

595
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: they're not turning the ball over and still couldn't couldn't score.

596
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: But but ship Shiver Reeny has clearly gotten the message,

597
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: like there was probably come to Jesus like listen, you

598
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: score points or you're getting period. Yeah, someone someone was

599
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: losing their job in this game, and it was either

600
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: going to be probably Colorado's offensive coordinator who has lasted

601
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: through three different head coaches, or Oregon State's defensive coordinator.

602
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: And you know, we we saw the result. I do

603
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: wonder if if Oregon State had pulled this off in overtime,

604
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: if they make that move, because I think it was

605
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: probably justified. Regardless, Colorado has got to be pretty proud

606
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: of themselves though, because b J. Baylor had thirteen carries

607
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: for eighteen yards in this game. That's a tough dude

608
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: to stop. And the fact that Oregon State was even

609
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: able to come back without him helping um is incredible.

610
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean, over total rushing yards, total rushing yards in

611
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: this game, uh was wait for a way. Oregon State

612
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: had eight total rushing yards twenty seven attempts for eight yards.

613
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: And look at Oregon State, Colorado, they worked for two

614
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: d and twenty yards. Colorado did no. Oregon State rush

615
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: for two and twenty yards. No they didn't, No, they didn't.

616
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: B J Baylor had thirteen attempts for eighteen yards. Jack

617
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Coletto had two attempts for nine yards. That was their

618
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: leading rushers. What am I looking at? Then you're looking

619
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: at Colorado? Colorado had from on the ESPN site right

620
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: now with they got it, then they got it mixed

621
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: up for sure. They have b J Baylor twenty two

622
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: carries ninety eight yards in a touchdown. What am I

623
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: looking at? I'm on College Football Reference, bro that Okay,

624
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up the way.

625
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: We gotta go to Yahoo or something we gotta No, No No,

626
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm going straight to the pack twelve. Alright, So um,

627
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: I'll go to Yahoo so that we have four different

628
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: sources on. I'm on college Football Press press Box where

629
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: we are? Oh god, forgot my damn uh password? All right,

630
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: So I'm on Yahoo. I'm pulling up the game right now.

631
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: It says b J Baylor had twenty two carries for

632
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: ninety eight yards and a touchdown. What in the hell

633
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to send you a screenshot of what

634
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at? Insane? Right? So which, so which is it? Dude,

635
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: It's gotta be that. It's got to be that Bro

636
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: was in the world. Did it just stop taking stats

637
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: at halftime or something? I don't know, Bro, I don't know.

638
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: And that's why when when you were talking, I was like,

639
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: what the hell is Ralph talking about? I am, I'm

640
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: on here, I'm I'm gonna I'm sending it to you

641
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Speaker 1: right now. That's it is insane to me. Yeah, I

642
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: have b J Baylor at thirteen carries for eighteen yards.

643
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: That is a big difference between Well, uh, I'm gonna

644
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: assume that you're telling the truth because we have two sources,

645
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: two sources that that that say otherwise. Um, anyway, still

646
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: held them under a hundred yards regardless. Oh my gosh,

647
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: I just need you to click the link I just

648
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: sent you, just to prove that I'm not insane. Alright, alright, alright, okay,

649
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: so I will click the league. Bro. This is hilarious,

650
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, so I guess we can move on

651
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: to the next game. I guess we we have, uh,

652
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: we have a conflicting sources college football, sports sports references rare.

653
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen the time what they were wrong,

654
00:41:52,680 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. That's weird. Well, it is

655
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: what it is. I guess. I pulled up college press

656
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: box and b J Baylor had rushing Well all I watched,

657
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: full disclosure, I only watched the fourth quarter in overtime

658
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: of this game. I watched from I watched from uh

659
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: the Trishawn Harrison touchdown reception and then the Montanalimonious Craig

660
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Um touchdown catch. So when I started watching, it was

661
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: seventeen UM Colorado late in the third quarter. And I guess,

662
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I did see b J Baylor score in

663
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: overtime in the first overtime UM, and I just assumed

664
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: maybe that was all the yards he got for the

665
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: whole game. Yeah, I was wrong, all right. Onto the

666
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: last game USC at Arizona State USC sixteen Arizona State

667
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: thirty one, and Jayden Daniels was eleven for twenty for

668
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty five yards, no touchdowns, two picks,

669
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: and they won a football game. How how because they

670
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: rushed the ball forty two times for two hundred and

671
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: eighty two yards and four touchdowns, So everybody was all

672
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: excited for USC. They're like, oh my god, ket Ingram

673
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: rushed for two hundred yards last last week. Well this

674
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: week fourteen for fifty four. They ran for ninety two

675
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: total yards, and they split reps between Jackson Dart and

676
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: Keaton Slobi's Jackson Dart didn't look good, neither Dick Keaton Slope.

677
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: It's both through an interception. I guess we can start

678
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: with the USC situation and their quarterbacks. Why are they

679
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: doing this? Why are they doing this two quarterback then,

680
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: because if you have two quarterbacks, you have none. I

681
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: don't really know, Um, unless Dante Williams has some type

682
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: of indication that he's actually in the running to get

683
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: this job. I honestly I don't know. I I don't know.

684
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know because if he I would assume that

685
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: if he did have an indication that the job was

686
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: going to be his, then maybe you just roll with

687
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: the young guy in in Jackson Dart start planning for

688
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: the future. I honestly don't know. They're looking for someone

689
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: to win the job at the end of the season

690
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: when they're trying to become Bowl eligible, taking people out

691
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: of rhythm. It was weird because for the majority of

692
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: the game, the quarterback that looked the most comfortable was

693
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Keatan Slovis. But I think ten of the sixteen points

694
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: all in the first half were on Jackson Dart drives. Yep,

695
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: but Dart looked very bad. Correct in the second half.

696
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: He was eight for seventeen. They run an air raid

697
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: and they both averaged less combined less than three yards

698
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: an attempt. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that. Yeah,

699
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: it was bad, dude, it was bad. Um what did

700
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: you make of of this? Of this team? And they're

701
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: like of USC just in general, because without without Drake London,

702
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: who's one of the best wide receivers in the country,

703
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: if not the best, they got nothing, dude, to get

704
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: Todd Todd Washington had a nice game, nine for seventy six.

705
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: Gary Bryant up to his total six for sixty four.

706
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: This team looks terrible, dude, terrible, And like firing Clay Hilton,

707
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if this made them better or worse.

708
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: This team's horrible. Sitting at four and five, I do

709
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: think GET made them worse. I don't think the players

710
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: completely understand what it is they're playing for or who

711
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: they're playing for the coach. The recruiting doesn't match the philosophy,

712
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: which is good for whoever comes in next, in my opinion,

713
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: because they have got They got guys like Malcolm X

714
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: and Eric Crowman Hook and a couple of other tight

715
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: ends actually that all would fit within a traditional offense

716
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: and actually would have been able to do some damage

717
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: against this Arizona State defense. And I'll make use of

718
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: any of them. They have talent like Gary Bryant Jr.

719
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: You and I both know is very talented. Todd Washington

720
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: has proved it on a high level at USC and

721
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: then and as well at Memphis. Michael Jackson is going

722
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: to be a very good receiver. Um Kyle Ford is serviceable.

723
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Like the the idea that they're not able to use

724
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: the players that they have to inflict damage on other

725
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: pack twelve teams is inexplicable. It just doesn't. It doesn't

726
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: make sense to me. But I do think that whoever

727
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: is going to come in and take over has to

728
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: look at what isn't being used and say, like I

729
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: could probably do some stuff that because it's not an

730
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: untalented team. Yeah, but they're not as talented as USC

731
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: is quote unquote supposed to be. You know what I mean?

732
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, and even their best defensive player,

733
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: Drake Jackson, doesn't look effective at all. I don't. I mean,

734
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, is it Todd Todd Orlando? Is it? What?

735
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: What is it? He's only Drake Jackson only has twenty

736
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: one tackles on the season. Drake Jackson has a pass

737
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: rushing specialist. How often have they been up forcing the

738
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: other team to throw bro I don't know. Man, like this,

739
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: this look like a kid who was going to be

740
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: able to come out and for sure be a first

741
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: round draft pick. I don't even know where he lands

742
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: right right now if he does come out, but he's

743
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: got he's gonna do it like he's got to. I

744
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: look at I look at USC schedule, and I'm a

745
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: little bit worried because they gotta get two wins to

746
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: be Bowl eligible, right. Are those two wins gonna though?

747
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: I think Dante probably does, Like are the players and

748
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: on that? That's what I'm saying. That's a good question.

749
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: It's a it's a good question. Um. I think that

750
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: they need the extra practices. I think that, um. I

751
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: think that it would be good for them to go

752
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: to a bowl. But they're gonna have to beat Cal

753
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: and B y U or Cal and U c l A.

754
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Or if they lose to Cal, they're gonna to beat

755
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: U c l A and B y U. Do you

756
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that can happen two wins in their

757
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: next three. That's tough, man, I give that. I give

758
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: that a less than Yeah, they are lucky they get

759
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: B y U at home. I think that they would

760
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: be shook the last week season. They're not beating B

761
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: y U. They're not. Might as well get that out

762
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: of out of their brain. They're not beating them. So

763
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: can they find Can they beat Cal and U c

764
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: l A. The answer to that is no, to they're

765
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: not gonna beat both. They may beat one, they're not

766
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: gonna beat both and then and I don't think they

767
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: beat U c l A because Chips coaching for his

768
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: job right now. So, yeah, do you think that that

769
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: U c l A game matters more to USC or

770
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: U c l A U c l A by far?

771
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not even close. USC season is over.

772
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of if they can get to

773
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: a bowl game. But then if you go to a

774
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: bowl game, who's gonna coach your bowl game? Like the

775
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: recruiting at USC right now is weird because Dante is

776
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: out recruiting and the guys are out recruiting. But when

777
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: the new coach comes in, who's going to keep that? Like,

778
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: who are are they gonna keep anybody on that staff?

779
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems logical to keep Dante, but like what,

780
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: he's acting head coach, and he was associate head coach

781
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: prior to that, so like he would have to take

782
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: a demotion to to stay there. It would be very tough.

783
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: If I was the most in demand coach in college

784
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: football and I was wighing whether to go to USC

785
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: or l s U or anywhere else, and LSU was

786
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: telling me do whatever you want, and USC was telling me,

787
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: you have to keep Dante, right, Like, I think that

788
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: would be a deal. Acer If one team is giving

789
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: you complete control and the other one has the university

790
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: uh president or athletic director telling you who you can

791
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: and can't keep, that automatically makes one job better than another.

792
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: Dante Williams is an asset somebody's gonna scoop him up

793
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: if USC doesn't hold onto him, and they're gonna be

794
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: better for it talent wise. But my whole thing is

795
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: the massive advantage that USC has in that all those

796
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: players that if this was any other school might jump

797
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: into the transfer portal to find a better situation for them.

798
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: I feel like most of these players are at USC

799
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: because they want to be at USC. Yeah, I don't

800
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a bunch of players hit the

801
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: transfer portal once Dante Williams is demoted and a new

802
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: coach comes in. They might there might be something that

803
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: are forced out because you could do that now, you

804
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: can straight up cut players. Chip Kelly did it, HERM

805
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: Edwards did it. Like there might be some players that

806
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: are they're pushed out, But I don't think you're gonna

807
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: see a flood of talent trying to get out of

808
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: l A No, no, because they feel like they will

809
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: be in a better situation going forward with whoever the

810
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: next head coach is gonna be. So that's what I'm

811
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: saying is whoever, like whoever takes this job, they're gonna

812
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: immediately be better because there's gonna be the same talented

813
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: kids they're gonna be more bought in. Um, the Pack

814
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: twelve is a mess. You really only have to worry

815
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: about Utah in the South right now. And but would

816
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: you even take the job if they were already mandating

817
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: that you had to keep certain coaches on staff, especially

818
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: once they confuse the power of not going to do

819
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: it a a big name. If they get a quote

820
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: unquote big name head coach like they like they want,

821
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: they're not gonna force him to keep anybody on on staff.

822
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: We don't want to confuse the signals or the power

823
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: dynamic in the first place. Keep Dante Williams on and

824
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: then the players don't know who's in charge. Yeah, because

825
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: then because they that creates the situation to where, hey, man, Dante,

826
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: it no matter what, so you know, so so I'll

827
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: go to him for this. Yeah, it creates a weird

828
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: You don't want anybody in your program with made man status. Yep,

829
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: that's a fact, all right. Um. Now onto our Pack

830
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: twelve power rankings, and they have gotten continuously more difficult

831
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: as the weeks have gone on, aside from the number

832
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: one spot and for the first time, our consensus number

833
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: two team did not lose Ralph so congratulations to Utah.

834
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: You were able to hold on to the spot and

835
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: our consistent number three team didn't lose because they didn't

836
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: play so um from from last week. So, Ralph, what

837
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: is your twelve through seven? I have Arizona still at twelve?

838
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: Forgive me, you have a fans uh. Stanford dropped down

839
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: to eleven from ten. I'd Colorado go up one spot,

840
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: and they probably should have gone up more, but that

841
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: the way the middle of these brankings are. I don't

842
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: really know what to do. Washington stays at number nine,

843
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: usc UH stays at number eight from last week, and

844
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: then I actually had cal drop from four to seven.

845
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: Um they were at ten two weeks ago, so they're

846
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: the team that seems to have bounced around the most.

847
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: All right, I have Arizona at twelve. I have Stanford

848
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: at eleven. I mean I should probably put Stanford at

849
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: twelve because because because I feel like that if yep,

850
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: I'm putting Stanford at twelve because with the way that

851
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: I just saw them play football football, I think Arizona

852
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: would probably be favored against them. So Stanford is the

853
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: worst team in the conference now. UM. Arizona's number eleven,

854
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: USC ten that team is in shambles. Bro Washington at nine,

855
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: Call at eight, Oregon State at seven. Okay, um, I

856
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: have Oregon State at six, which it's hard for me

857
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: to have them four spots ahead of Colorado after what

858
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: just happened, But I'm trying to look at it on

859
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: the season as a whole and not just the results

860
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: of of what happened in over time. Um U c

861
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: l A at five. They did not play last week

862
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: and managed to move up to in my ranking, so

863
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: who knows how that happened. Arizona State at four up

864
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: too spots from six last week, Washington State at three,

865
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: Utah at two, and Oregon at one. Right, so we

866
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: have I have Colorado at six. Results matter and it's

867
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: a recency bias, I know. Um uh U c l

868
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: A at five. They didn't play. Arizona State at four.

869
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: They got a nice win, um A despite Jayden Niels

870
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: not playing well, which is I mean, he'll be back

871
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: next year somewhere, um, even if it's not an Arizona State.

872
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: Washington State at three, you taught too in Oregon at one,

873
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: like one through one through four, we're pretty easy. Um.

874
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: But now onto Arizona State because before we get to

875
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: this week's preview, Um, there was a controversy that happened

876
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: at Arizona State, and so I just said that Jayden Daniels,

877
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: their quarterback, did not play well through two picks, was

878
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: only eleven for twenty and this season he's looked extremely underwhelming,

879
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Like this is not the guy that we all thought

880
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: was going to be a potential first round NFL pick

881
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 1: last year, right, Like it's no, I'm sorry. Two years

882
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: ago after his freshman year, I remember I wrote about it,

883
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: was like, yo, if this this dude is the future

884
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: of the pack twelve, he's got a shot, and Antonio

885
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: Peers retweeted it everything, And now this season we're looking

886
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: at it. Due with eighteen hundred yards, seven touchdowns, seven

887
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: picks through the through the air, and another couple of

888
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: another few rushing touchdowns on the ground. But bro, this

889
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: is not I don't even know what to make of

890
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: him at this point point in time, like is it

891
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: him or is it the coaching? And then that led

892
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: to Jordan's Simony, who is a long time what was

893
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: an Arizona State football player beloved worked for the university

894
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: sort of in a third party play role where he

895
00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: represented the university would be on the sidelines doing poll game,

896
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: pregame interviews, all that stuff. And he went on to

897
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: speak of the Devil's Podcast, and Ralph got him fired.

898
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: I did not get him fired. So speaking of those

899
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: podcast is a It's a podcast that covers UM Arizona State.

900
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: It is run by Brad Denny and Joe Healely. It

901
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: is put out by the local CBS TV station UM.

902
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: Their website Arizona Family dot com. It is non controversial,

903
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: it is super informational, it is very fan friendly. I've

904
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: been a guest on the show a bunch. You've been

905
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: a guest on the show. They had Jordan's Simony on

906
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: I think twice in the last month, and this last

907
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: time Jordan Simony just said, like, look, the players don't

908
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: even realize they're not getting the best coaching. I don't

909
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: think Herm is the guy. I don't think Jane Daniels

910
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: has shown the leadership skills necessary to fill the leadership

911
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: vacuum that obviously exists in this team. It just lost

912
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: thirty four to seven, or they were down thirty four

913
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: to seven to Washington State at home in front of

914
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: the nineteen nine Rose Bowl team that was being honored

915
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: at halftime. It's not fair to that team, it's not

916
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: fair to the paying fans, it's not fair to the

917
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: boosters for Arizona State to be playing this way. So

918
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm off the herme train right and that, and and

919
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: I think he also may be alluded to the fact

920
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: that he believes some assistants are getting ready to head

921
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: onto whatever their next thing is, UM, based on the

922
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: direction that the n C Double A investigation is headed.

923
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: So he UH is contracted out. It's one of those

924
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: things where the school runs the broadcast, but not officially,

925
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: he's not technically university employee, UM, but it has the

926
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: broadcast the sideline reporter role. He it does need to be, UM,

927
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: you are sort of in a cheerleader role. And so

928
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: they got offended. They reached out to a bunch of

929
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: media members and said, like, Hey, tell your people and

930
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: your subscribers and your readers that the stuff that Jordan

931
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Simoney said about our coaching staff is not true. And

932
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: so some of those reporters started to disseminate that information

933
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: UM without having even listened to the show or anything

934
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: like that. And then UM, Jordan Simony announced on social

935
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: media that he had been fired. Arizona State fans came

936
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: out almost universally in support of Jordan's Simony uh. And

937
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: then from that point the university kept reaching out to

938
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: media members to say like, hey, you know, I see

939
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: that everybody seems to be on on Simony's side. He

940
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: actually can't do this, he can't do this. You had

941
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: some media members say like, as you reached out to me,

942
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: and I'm still on Simony's side, and so, you know,

943
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: it was a weird thing. People made some free speech

944
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: arguments that probably weren't necessarily appropriate for the situation. And

945
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: then a su goes out and wins, and you have

946
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: Chase Lucas after the game say like, hey, if you're

947
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: in operating in the capacity of media and you're saying

948
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: stuff like we quit on our team, or we quit

949
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: on our coaches or coaches quit on us, you're doing

950
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: nothing but tearing this UH him apart. And if you

951
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: are in the city of temp and you are not

952
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: supporting the team no matter what, you know, all you're

953
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: you're you're creating the division and uh, the lack of

954
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: buy in and the results that you're upset about. And

955
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: so it's just kind of an interesting week of you

956
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: know where Jordan Simony, whose beloved Chase Lucas for the

957
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: most part is beloved, and uh and and these I

958
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: think these are the hallmarks of a team that's kind

959
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: of in peril, and they're they're embroiled in all sorts

960
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: of weird stuff right now, and the results haven't matched

961
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: what I believe that they would do. I don't know

962
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: where you thought they'd be before the season. I thought

963
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: that they'd be an eleven win team. I think that

964
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: you you you probably at least thought that they'd be. Um,

965
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have gone down seven yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

966
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: with their schedule. I think I had them in nine wins, right,

967
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: which is still within reach technically. Um, but yeah, so

968
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty dramatic week in Arizona State football.

969
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Simony not only gets fired from his broadcast, but

970
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: his ultimate dream of being part of the PAC twelve

971
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,959
Speaker 1: network probably dead. Now, why do you say that? Because

972
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: they're not gonna hire on somebody who who one of

973
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: the schools is uncomfortable with? Why not, bro Because you don't,

974
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to agree with people. And

975
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: then if you're in an analyst role, you don't have

976
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: to like Yes, some people aren't gonna like you because

977
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: you do have to say some uncomfortable things. So I

978
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: don't see any problem with him getting on at the

979
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: PAC twelve net networks. It's just a matter of what

980
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve networks are gonna look like at that

981
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: point in time, right. But I do know that a

982
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: SU would protest. They absolutely would, and they thought that

983
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: they were doing the right thing by protecting their quarterback,

984
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: protecting the player. I don't think they were as worried

985
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: about the coaches, um as they were believing that they

986
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: were doing something good for the players by dismissing Simony

987
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: from his responsibilities. Um Simony would trade losing his job

988
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: for UH some more SU wins because he's a crazy person.

989
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: But UM, you know, I don't know, it's a it's

990
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: an interesting situation. I don't know where you land. I

991
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: think the A s us fully within their uh purview

992
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: to do what they did. Um. But you know, if

993
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: they had the option to just tell him and reiterate

994
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: to him what his contract said and what he is

995
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: and isn't allowed to do, that probably would have been

996
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: better than having everybody jump on his side. Even though

997
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: his side isn't really even a side and say that,

998
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, they fired the wrong person. They should have

999
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: got rid of everybody but him. You know, obviously that's

1000
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: not going to be the reality of the situation. No,

1001
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: I I agree with you there. Um, Now on to

1002
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: this week's preview. Uh, the games this week, because these

1003
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: games matter. The lines on these games are tough. Dude.

1004
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't on its face look like it's going to be,

1005
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, any close games. But we know that this

1006
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: is the Pack twelve. Weird old stuff happens. So first

1007
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: game up we do not have another Friday game, thank god. Uh,

1008
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: first game up we have is an eleven am kickoff

1009
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: on Saturday on the Pack twelve network, Utah at Arizona.

1010
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: Utah's favored by twenty four over under fifty four. Where yet, Ralph,

1011
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: if they run the ball and only run the ball,

1012
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: then it's probably gonna be a rap early. And I

1013
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: promise I'm not just reacting to what happened against Stanford.

1014
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: This Arizona team defensively is improving. They have a lot

1015
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: more buy in, but they are still super short on

1016
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: depth and they cannot handle a varied powerful physical rushing attack.

1017
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: They can't. And so as long as Utah is not

1018
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: turning the ball over and as long as they stay committed. Um,

1019
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: and I believe this is in in Salt Lake, right, yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1020
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: it's in Tucson. Oh, it's in Tucson. Okay, twenty four

1021
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: and a half. I'll still take Utah. I'll still take Utah.

1022
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised if we lost on

1023
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: this one. Well, I got you, and are you taking

1024
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: it over? Under? I like man, I think four. I

1025
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with the over. Well, I'm taking

1026
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: Utah and the under. All right, next game up in

1027
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: chronological order, we got we have USC at cal usc Is.

1028
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: The line has moved from one and a half where

1029
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: USC was favorite to two points. Who you got? I like? Uh?

1030
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: I like U s C in this game. Um. I

1031
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: mean it's just a when all else fails, I go

1032
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: with talent. Um. But again, would not be surprised, as

1033
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: we have continued to show in our picks by the way, um,

1034
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: which I think we you went two and three. I

1035
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: went two and three last week against the spread. Um,

1036
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: you went three and two. I did not do very well. Um,

1037
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: but I like I like usc even though I know

1038
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: that Cal's piste off. Chase Garbergs just issued a long

1039
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: ass statement from his uh his Twitter account saying that

1040
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: he's piste off at University Health Services because the COVID

1041
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: tests that they received George want mandated by anybody. They

1042
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: were just giving them to give them, and then the

1043
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: fact that people tested positive and got contact traced made

1044
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: it turn into what essentially would have probably been appropriate

1045
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: last year, but this year um kind of possibly inappropriate

1046
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: for for the way that some of the players got

1047
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: held out, including him. So it's possible that they play

1048
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: piste off. It's also possible that it serves as a distraction. Um,

1049
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: I think I just talked myself into flipping my pick.

1050
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go count wow. Wow, I'm taking the Trojans,

1051
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: even though that they are a disaster if they lose

1052
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: this game. Bro, it's it's a it's it's a rap

1053
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: for them. I mean, like, I don't even know how

1054
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: fairt Like, how do you show up to watch this?

1055
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: This is brutal, but but I'm gonna watch it on television.

1056
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: Are you taking the over? Under? Fifty three? Over? Okay,

1057
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: I'll go under, all right? Um, next game up is

1058
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: the two thirty game between Stanford and Oregon State. When

1059
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: the hell has Oregon State ever been favored by twelve

1060
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: points over Stanford. That's a great question. But they were

1061
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: favored by two scores last week and they lost. But

1062
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: but but you could say, like, oh, well, that was

1063
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: Colorado at Stanford. But Colorado leading into that game had

1064
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: done nothing offensively all season until the fourth quarter of

1065
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: the game. That didn't matter. So we're gonna have to

1066
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: go revisit our preseason picks. I don't want to. Why not,

1067
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: because first of all, we're talking about Oregon State right now.

1068
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: I think I had them at two wins, so they've

1069
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: already completely, you know, blown that out of the water.

1070
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: I had Arizona State at eleven wins, which it is

1071
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: literally impossible for them to get to unless Utah loses

1072
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: out and they went out. Um, I had Washington at

1073
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: ten wins. For the love of God, I think the

1074
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: only thing I might get right is if Arizona gets

1075
01:08:52,880 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: a second win. I have that brow brow But I

1076
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: did have I think I think I had calip five

1077
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: and seven and they're mixed. Yeah, yeah, And I had

1078
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: U c l A At eight and at eight and four. Dude,

1079
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 1: I was two of these teams except for USC is

1080
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: the only team I blew it on. I thought that

1081
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: their talent was gonna get them to nine wins and

1082
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 1: the coaching was gonna have them lose three. But nope,

1083
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: I didn't even get there. I had I had USC

1084
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: at nine and three, u c l A at eight

1085
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: and four with a win over Utah who also went

1086
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: eight and four. So at Utah fourth in the PacTel South,

1087
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 1: and they're probably gonna win it by maybe two games.

1088
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: So yikes. All right, um so, next game up is

1089
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: Colorado versus No No, no no, sorry, Arizona State versus Washington.

1090
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: That game's in Seattle. Arizona State's favored by five and

1091
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: a half points over under forty four. That means they

1092
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: think that this is gonna be a struggle. Fast give

1093
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: me Washington plus five and a half and the over.

1094
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: I'll take the opposite of you and the over as well.

1095
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: What what makes you think that Arizona State after watching

1096
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels throw the foot football? So if Washington can

1097
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: get them to stop running the football, never never mind,

1098
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: never mind. Hey, here's what I have to say, Arizona

1099
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: State is facing its third straight interim coach, which I'm

1100
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: pretty sure is a first in the history of college football. Yeah,

1101
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: but Junior Adams is gonna go no risk it, no biscuit.

1102
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: All right, final game up, which is the game I

1103
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: care the most about, but I'm also terrified. Oh and

1104
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you the networks. The Arizona State

1105
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: Washington game at four o'clock is on FS one, Stanford

1106
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: Oregon State at two thirty is on PAC twelve. Utah

1107
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: arizonas on PAC twelve at eleven a m. Colorado U

1108
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: c L as on PAC twelve at six pm, and

1109
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: USC Cow is on FS one at twelve thirty PM.

1110
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: And the Oregon game is uh Washington State at Oregon

1111
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: is on ESPN at seven thirty. This is PACK twelve

1112
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: after dark. This scares the hell out of me, Ralph.

1113
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: It should it should Washington State's not messing around game.

1114
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: Washington State's coming off of by They have won four

1115
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: out of their last five games, except against b y U,

1116
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: which gives me more confidence. But then that was the

1117
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: week after. But then that was the week that they

1118
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: lost their head coach. So I don't really know what

1119
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: to make of that. Oh, yeah, here we are. Oregon's

1120
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: favored by fourteen points over under fifty six and a half.

1121
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: This is gonna be because it seems like every single

1122
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: game Oregon secondary gets banged up at some point during

1123
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: the game. They're gonna need to keep players on the

1124
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: field because depth is going to matter very very much.

1125
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: Jaden Dolora is a serious competitor, and he's got two

1126
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: receivers on the outside that do damage. Travell Harris and

1127
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: Calvin Jackson are are gonna put uh They're gonna put

1128
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: Oregon's defensive backs to the test. I'm looking forward to it.

1129
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be

1130
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I ultimately think that Washington State

1131
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: you might even give the edge to as a more

1132
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: complete offensive team. So Oregon's offense is going to have

1133
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: to carry them. They're gonna have to get points on

1134
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: as many drives as possible. I don't care if their

1135
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: fields got to run the football on Washington State and

1136
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: forced them. If they can get them down a little

1137
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,959
Speaker 1: bit early, then Jayden Dolora sometimes gets a little reckless

1138
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: with the football, so then then that will allow you

1139
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity to pile on. So Oregon fourteen over under

1140
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: fifty six and a half. Who you got. I am

1141
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: going to take Washington State. Uh, not to win, but

1142
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: to cover because Oregon has covered um like twice this year.

1143
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: And I'll take the over fifty six and a half. Oh,

1144
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: give me the getting note, give me the over and

1145
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: give me Oregon minus fourteen. Easy. This is a layup, Ralph,

1146
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: This is an absolute layup. Okay, all right, um, but no, no,

1147
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: But on a serious note, I am very concerned because

1148
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: this is a trap game. Almost they're five and four,

1149
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: Oregon is coming off a super emotional win. Then you

1150
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: gotta come back refocus against the team coming off of

1151
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: by sketchy. All right, So last week we you you

1152
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: predicted that we'd be at three Bowl teams and John

1153
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: Willinger and I said four? And where if you're right,

1154
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: I think we're at three? Oh hold up, yes, we

1155
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: only have Oregon, who's Bowl eligible, Utah and Arizona State. Yep. Right.

1156
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: So the question is this week we have the opportunity

1157
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: for Washington State to become BOL eligible, organ State to

1158
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: become Boll eligible, and when you see LA to become

1159
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: Bull eligible. How many Bowl eligible teams will we have

1160
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: at the end of this week, we will have the

1161
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: options are five or six or is gonna win and

1162
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: get Bowl eligible. Washington State's going to lose, so they

1163
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: won't be Bowl eligible. Um, and Arizona State will win. Yeah.

1164
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: So that's three no, sorry, that's two more teams that

1165
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: will be Bowl eligible to bring the total to five. Okay,

1166
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: So you have Oregon State winning and you have u c.

1167
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: L A winning, which will make five. Okay, all right

1168
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: with you. I'll say at the end of this week,

1169
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 1: we'll have five Bowl eligible teams and then that means

1170
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: that uh. And then Washington State will get a win

1171
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: against Arizona the following week, so then they'll be Bowl

1172
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: eligible after that. Um, we have two teams three teams

1173
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: that might lose Bowl eligibility altogether. This week Colorado loses

1174
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: their out, Stanford loses their out, Cow loses there out

1175
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: yep yep. So yeah, and then you're gonna have the

1176
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: week after that, like Arizona State and Oregon State going

1177
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: for like seven win dude. It's gonna be a very

1178
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: interesting down the stretch matchup, all right. Um. Now, the

1179
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: last thing that we got for you guys is it

1180
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: is basketball season and Um, yeah, it is basketball season

1181
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 1: and the Pack twelve power rankings have come out, and

1182
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: we are excited because there's a lot of talent in

1183
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: the conference. A lot of people are expecting a lot

1184
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: out of these teams, particularly U c l A. And

1185
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve power rankings start U c l A one,

1186
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: Oregon two, USC three, and then dot dot dot dot

1187
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: dot dot dot dot dot dot Colorado, Washington State, Arizona

1188
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: coming in at six, Oregon State at seven, Arizona State

1189
01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: at a, Utah at nine, Stanford at ten, washing Tin

1190
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: at eleven, and call it twelve. Thoughts, Well, you know

1191
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: Arizona State's gonna finish in the top six because they

1192
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: were predicted to be outside of the top six. And

1193
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna finish outside the top six if

1194
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: they're predicted to finish in the top six. So I'm

1195
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: thinking Arizona State will probably be closer to five and

1196
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: six than they are at seven. I do not feel

1197
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: as strongly about U c l A running away with

1198
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: everything as most of the Pack twelve media does. I

1199
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: think that Oregon looks pretty tough. Um. I also, I

1200
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: just I don't know this U c l A team

1201
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: a little streaky. Um. I am excited though to see

1202
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 1: them run it back Johnny Jusang and all those guys.

1203
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fun. But I think um overall,

1204
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: I do, though I hate to watch games on their

1205
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: home court. I do think we're gonna see Oregon when

1206
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve this year. Um, I do think U

1207
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: c l A finishes top three. I don't think that

1208
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: they drop all the way out or down. UM I am.

1209
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: I am skeptical of Arizona being up there tied at

1210
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: fourth with Oregon State, and I'm skeptical of USC as well.

1211
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: I think that Colorado has started to build a really

1212
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: great culture and I would not be surprised if the

1213
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: top three actually ended up being Oregon, U c l A, Colorado. Yeah.

1214
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: I think that we actually have a shot this year

1215
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: at a national championship. And we am that Patty and we,

1216
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean the Pack twelve. I think that Oregon and

1217
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: U c l A are legitimate title contenders, even with

1218
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: Penny putting together a mini pro team and uh and

1219
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: and uh the coach k farewell to her. Yeah, nobody's

1220
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: gonna be paying any attention to the Pack twelve this year. Well,

1221
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: we gotta pay extra attention just because of the fact

1222
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: that nobody's pay pretty much everybody has U c l

1223
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: A either number one or number two coming into the year.

1224
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: And there's five teams in the coaches Poll, which I

1225
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: found to be very interesting. That's a lot more respect

1226
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: than the Pack twelve has gotten in a in a while. Um,

1227
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: I think they have U c l A At seven,

1228
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: USC at nine, Oregon at seventeen. Um, what are you

1229
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: looking at bro USA today? Oh that was the final

1230
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: poll of last year. Damn man, I'm off today this

1231
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: this year they only have the coaches poll only has

1232
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: two Pack twelve teams, right, and so does the eight

1233
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: peopole week. All right, well we'll see. We've proved him

1234
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: wrong last year, maybe we'll do it again. The only

1235
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: thing that I know to be gospel truth is that

1236
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: if you believe Arizona State is gonna be good, they're

1237
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: gonna be mediocre. And if you believe that they're going

1238
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: to be mediocre, they will be good. Yeah. Well, all right,

1239
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: well you guys. That is the PAC twelve apostles for

1240
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: this week. I'm George Rice Stir, He's Ralph Amston. Peace out.

1241
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: Catch you guys next week. Oh and leave a five

1242
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: star ready