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Speaker 1: other than Rajon Rondo who did it in spurts, And

432
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: we discussed this a lot, but like just him being

433
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Speaker 1: able to attack the basket when there's nothing going, like

434
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 1: when a d is kind of just holding in, Lebron

435
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 1: is at the corner of the wing, doesn't want to

436
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: attack this possession. Give it the Shrewder go right at

437
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: his matchup. Doesn't even need a screen sometime, just go

438
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: right at Devin Booker to be able to draw a foul,

439
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 1: draw contact, get to the line, which I think is

440
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 1: huge for him. He had eight free throws tonight that

441
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: second behind um Anthony Davis. Like that's eight free throws

442
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: for at the guard position. It's just something we haven't had.

443
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 1: He's still only one for four from three, none of

444
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: the teams really shooting well. But I thought he was huge.

445
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of huge dumball passes, four assists.

446
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: Game to the rim had three turnovers, but I thought

447
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: they were I didn't think they were too bad. I

448
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: thought they were just they had the right idea in

449
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: the flow of the game, aggressive turnovers, right, And I

450
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: thought he was I thought he was really good. He's

451
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: had two straight really good playoff games. I'm I'm really

452
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Speaker 1: impressed with him. Um So, I guess the only thing

453
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Speaker 1: I had. The other thing I had written down here

454
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 1: was just those shots not going in? Do you see

455
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Speaker 1: them kind of going in in game four? Like? What

456
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: do you see from that? Do you see there's anything

457
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 1: they could do? Is just just open Like these are

458
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: NBA players, they have to hit their open looks. So

459
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: I think that they're inevitably going to go in. And

460
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: for a couple of different reason is one, we've seen

461
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: the Lakers go through stretches like this where they don't

462
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: shoot the ball well and then they inevitably snap out

463
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: of it. And then two, and this is probably the

464
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: most important part because they're doing everything else, which is

465
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: again something you and I have preached ad nauseum over

466
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Speaker 1: the last two years is you know what, KCP, if

467
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: you make shots, great, but what we really need you

468
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: to do is guard. You know, that's the primary thing.

469
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: And they've all done that, and as a result, they're

470
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Speaker 1: up to one in the series. And to be honest,

471
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: since basically halftime of basically in the last two games,

472
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 1: the Lakers have never really been threatened, um, you know,

473
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 1: with the biggest threat being that crazy run they went

474
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Speaker 1: on at the end of Game two, which Lebron pretty

475
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: much immediately rested back control of. So from that standpoint,

476
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: like there's less pressure. This isn't the Clippers, you know,

477
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: this isn't we're down two oh in the series. We're

478
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Speaker 1: in Dallas. If I missed this shot, I'm going to

479
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: be the lead story on I Disputed tomorrow. You know, Like,

480
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: what this is is a team that is winning and

481
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: everything else is going a d looks great, Lebron looks great.

482
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: The only thing that's not really working is the jump shots.

483
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: And so because of that, they're still winning and that

484
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: relieves the pressure. You know, the Lakers don't have to

485
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: hit shots in Game four to win. They just need

486
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: to defend the way they did tonight, and so that

487
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: that will relieve some of that pressure. And I think,

488
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, this is the biggest thing that that I

489
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: uh was thinking about in that second half. This series

490
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: is just a knockdown, drag out fight. And the Sons

491
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: you could tell they're still they're so sick of us,

492
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: like they're like they're they're hard boarding the screw these

493
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: guys mode, you know, like they hate they hate us.

494
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 1: And Jay Crowd is sick of it, He's sick of Lebron.

495
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: Devin Booker is literally so sick of it he's shoving guys.

496
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: You know. Chris Paul inevitably when he gets back into

497
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: this series is going to be a physical, uh nightmare

498
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: to deal with the Sun's. This is gonna be two

499
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: games here, if the Lakers pull it out in five,

500
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: that are going to be extremely physical. That could have

501
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: some dirty plays. And and for the record, KCP already

502
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: has a pretty bad by contusion and bad enough to

503
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: get him out of the game. And Dennis Shrewder turned

504
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: his ankle over a little bit there in the third quarter.

505
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: So you know, they have two days off here, they

506
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: don't play again until Sunday. This this is a great

507
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: opportunity in this next five days to close this series

508
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: out and put their arguably the toughest opponent they'll play

509
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: in the West. If the Clippers lose, arguably this team,

510
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: this team is you. You have been preaching this NonStop

511
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: over the last week. The Suns are good. Really, You've

512
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: had to temper my expectations a bit because I underestimated

513
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: them a bit and so of how good they are.

514
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: If you can get him out of here in five

515
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: and not lose too much physical wear and tear, things

516
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: are gonna I'm not gonna say get easier, but they're

517
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna be like this could arguably be the hardest task

518
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: that they have, you know, this unpolished version of the

519
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: Lakers beating the second best team in the league by record. Yeah,

520
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: I've been saying I think Phoenix is good. I think

521
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: they're still really good. I'm not sure where they had

522
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: just from here, but just going out to your physicality

523
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: point there, I want to give Andre Drummond some love,

524
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: like it felt like before this series, and I guess

525
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: rightfully so a little bit just with his up and

526
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: down play, it was kind of like, let's just survive

527
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: the first five minutes or you know after the Game

528
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: one loss, all right, don't start him, don't start him,

529
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: Let's get someone else. And again he can be really

530
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: scapegoaded a lot. I thought he's been. He was great

531
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: again tonight, like the second straight game. Um. I think

532
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: his ability to kind of be in the defensive stance

533
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: coming off those screens, getting hands in passing lanes, being

534
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: able to get back to eton like, be able to

535
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: deflect some of those not let all of those go through,

536
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: some of them are going to ge through, but just

537
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: getting his hands in passing lanes. And again three more

538
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: offensive rebounds tonight. Um, I think his physicality is how

539
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: to has an impact in this series. Um twelve rebounds

540
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: in Game two, eleven rebounds. Tonight, Again he had one

541
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: huge block. I was not expecting that was that on

542
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: Devin Booker. Yeah, I was in the first quarter, little

543
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: left hand Yeah yeah yeah. So again I thought that

544
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: was again part of what they were trying to do,

545
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, not let Devin Booker get easy ones, allow

546
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Speaker 1: everyone else to kind of get going, even if Chris

547
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: Paul wants to kind of create fantastic Um. I like

548
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: that they've tied his minutes to Lebron right, so he's

549
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: not playing with like uh not that shooter is not

550
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: a good good shot creator, but he's playing with the

551
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: best shot creator on the team, so he doesn't have

552
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: to wait. There's no there's not really any Drummond post

553
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: ups as there were before. I think there were a few,

554
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: but very little now you I don't really notice them

555
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: throughout the game. So, um, he's playing with Lebron, playing

556
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: with the shot creator that's finding him. Lebron finds these

557
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: angles that I just don't see. Um, he gets he

558
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: gets the ball to him down low. Drummond still misses

559
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: some easy ones, but I again just credit to him.

560
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: Just another really good game. I think his physicality is

561
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: sending the tone um and it's a it's trouble for them.

562
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: It's allowing Anthony Davis to come in and crash the board.

563
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: Cale Kuzma had a bunch of utimates and remounts tonight

564
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: because of Drummond as well. They have to go box

565
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: him out. I just wanted to give him an ode.

566
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: I thought he was good again. You hit the most

567
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: important part there, which is like, you know, he has

568
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: been scapegoaded, but the reason why he escape coded is

569
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: because he was having issues on both ends and early on,

570
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: and in the last two games he's been unbelievably good defensively,

571
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: which at that point it's like, who cares if he

572
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: fumbles the ball out of bounds a few times or

573
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: misses a few layups around the rim, which, by the way,

574
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: as our friend Alex Regular pointed out today, he's been

575
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: finishing really well around the rim with the Lakers, especially

576
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: as of late, and so the things are kind of

577
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: coming together for him offensively in a way that they

578
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: weren't early on. And a lot of that is it

579
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: being tied to Lebron, which we we we figured might

580
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: solve some of those problems, but none of that matters

581
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: as long as he's defending, Like I think k c

582
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: P said, a pretty good series, aside from the fact

583
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: that he can't make a shot. But but it's because

584
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: he has arguably one of the toughest jobs on the team,

585
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: chasing around Devin Booker, and he's done. He's done a

586
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: good job of taking that responsibility, especially in the last

587
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: couple of games. And so, you know, again, Drummond, the

588
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: bar is low there. He's a he's a veteran minimum

589
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: signing at the center position. You know, on a team

590
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily need him, and and he just needed

591
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: to hold his own on the defensive end. And I

592
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: think he's been excellent on the defensive end in the

593
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: last couple of games, and that I agree with you,

594
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: Like he deserves his flowers, because that dude has taken

595
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: way too much a lot from me, you know, like

596
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: it was really frustrating for me to watch him, you know,

597
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: kind of float around defensively, not really knowing where to stand,

598
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: constantly turning his head, not seeing man in ball, just

599
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: getting lost. Uh, and then all so hurting the team

600
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: on the offensive end as a spacer and as a finisher. Well,

601
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: now he solved a huge chunk of that with with

602
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: what he's been doing defensively, and that makes everything else

603
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: so much easier to deal with, right, And I guess

604
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: the final kind of adjustment that was, well, it wasn't

605
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: made tonight. It was made in game two. But we

606
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: saw it again. No Mantres Harold again, right, No Mantresnasol

607
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 1: is fully in the rotation. He's not just in the rotation,

608
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: he's closing, which like brings a tear to my eyes,

609
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: and almost every lake up to her eyes. Just it

610
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: gives a d the chance to be the five down

611
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: low and the ball just looks like it flies around

612
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: even if he's hitting. I think he hit one three tonight.

613
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: Just that threat of him out there. Um, to see

614
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Gasol back in the rotation again. I don't think Tres

615
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: needs to go DMP the whole playoffs. I don't think

616
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. But just seeing Gasol, it's nice to

617
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: see Vogel kind of make the adjustment that we wanted

618
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: to see. Um. Even though Treads had an okay game one,

619
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was getting killed defensively and we saw

620
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: that Gasol was Again. I think he did his job

621
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: on eight and like you gotta beat a couple of times,

622
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: had a few weird blocking fouls at the rim, but

623
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Speaker 1: it was good to see him. Good to him in

624
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: the rotation. He got your guy Ben macklamore in there. Um,

625
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: you could tell, yeah, he's thinking about the shooting right,

626
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: just might as well. Ben maclamore always takes the shot

627
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: that's like the least open right he called it. He's like, oh,

628
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: let me just go up, which just doesn't get him

629
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: in any rhythm. Um. And again, defensively, he's still kind

630
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: of lost like I didn't. No, yeah, you're right, you're right,

631
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: play with he did not play with Lebron, but yeah,

632
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: that's probably not the best way. He's Ben mclore. But

633
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: they needed shooting man, No hit a shot, and I

634
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: think bog would just was like can I get three

635
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: points out? Have been? But yeah, it was cool to

636
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: just kind of see the rotation is really tightened. No

637
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: th HD tonight either, right, I think it was what

638
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: we kind of expected. Um, he had a really tough

639
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: two games in Phoenix, so so good to see the rotation.

640
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: Titan Man, did you have kind of anything else from tonight? Um?

641
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: I thought Marcusol was awesome in pick and roll defense

642
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: in a way that yeah, it wasn't in game two.

643
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: I thought, uh, just and so much of that is

644
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: the whole unit, like so much of it is a again,

645
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: but you know, uh, the guys from like A Film

646
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Room talked a lot about this after Game two. But

647
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons that Marcusol was having issues

648
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: and pick and roll in the second half of Game

649
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: two was the ball handler cutting across his face so

650
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: instead of like snaking the pick and roll is what

651
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 1: they call it, but essentially just switching directions on him.

652
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: It's it's basically a crossover after the screen, and Marcusol

653
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: just was having trouble anticipating that and just was a

654
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: step slow. And I thought, I thought several occasions in

655
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: the second half in particular, he just because again, like Marcusol,

656
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: it's the same issue that you see with a lot

657
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: of older players, Like this guy used to be the

658
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year. He's got all of that

659
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: in him. Uh, he's got all the experience. It's just

660
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: his body that has been failing him. And uh, and

661
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: the truth is is like you can make up for

662
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: a lot of that by being savvy. And I thought

663
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: tonight he was much better at anticipating, uh that type

664
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: of movement out of the pick and roll, was much

665
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: more capable of staying in front and actually protecting the rim,

666
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: and and that just, you know, again made it so

667
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: that all the stuff he brings offensively was that much

668
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: more valuable because he wasn't hurting you on the other

669
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: end of the floor. But ye, Mark, Mark was fantastic. Yeah,

670
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: and we're going on here around forty minutes, So if

671
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: anyone's kind of jump in, I'll add you in at

672
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: you in here. But yeah, I was just looking at

673
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Aton's line here. Um, he only had one free though tonight,

674
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: and I think, like that's just not enough offense, right

675
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: if they're just feeding him even though he shot Levin

676
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: for fifteen, but he's not getting to the line, not

677
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: putting any actual pressure on the guys, Like I think

678
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: they'll live with that. He went and living for fifteen

679
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: and they only scored ninety five points. Um, that's just

680
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: that's the scheme they're gonna go with. Um. I guess

681
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: my only other thing is like Phoenix, the only adjustment really,

682
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: I guess is Devin Booker and Chris Paul to kind

683
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: of fire away, right. I expect to see that. But

684
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: when you go into that game four, most teams, you

685
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: have your adjustment, then you have the adjustment adjustment, and

686
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: now it's just who's the better team. But we'll let's

687
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: we'll get some people up here. I guess we gotta

688
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: be requested. While you're bringing somebody up, go ahead and

689
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: add the first person the What has been interesting to

690
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: keep an eye on is, you know, Monty Williams has

691
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: talked about this, Um, you know the way that the

692
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Suns are interpreting this is that it's a fistfight. And

693
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: and the problem is is is I think they're going

694
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: to respond to tonight by just upping their physicality even

695
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: more on Sunday. And so again, it's just gonna be

696
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: important that the Lakers kind of maintain that edge because

697
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: I think this is a classic series where the Sons

698
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: are the Sun's. No, they can't out skill the Lakers.

699
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: The Suns, No, they can't out defend the Lakers, but

700
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: they might try to kick their ass, you know, for

701
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, um, just by using using

702
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: Jay Crowder, using Chris Paul, using Devin Booker, just to

703
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: be super physical everywhere. Anyway, Let's get someone on yep

704
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: a j Can you hear us? Yeah? I can hear ye. Yeah,

705
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's uh, it's funny, man. It was

706
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: like the Lakers played like asked the first half, Bro,

707
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: it was just you know, it was almost like they

708
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: were going through the motions. Lebron was kind of pasting himself,

709
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: and second half it just switched. Lebron just kind of

710
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: went like, Okay, get out of my way, Let's let

711
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: me take over this game. And it's almost like the

712
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Son's new at that point like, Okay, we're out matched,

713
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing we can do at this point, like

714
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why I think. You know, once

715
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: you get in Devin Booker's head, he gets real sassy,

716
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: and he gets real piste off and he does dumb

717
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: ship like pushing people in the back, you know what

718
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like that's what they I feel

719
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: like they've been needing to do this whole you know,

720
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: from game one, two and three is just get up

721
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: on them. And I think putting in West Matthews was

722
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: the perfect thing to do because I mean he was

723
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: the only one to me that was consistent all night

724
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: on defense. You know, his shots were his shots were

725
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: going in I mean massive, you know what I'm saying.

726
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: Like he he changed the whole outlook of what that

727
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: lineup looked like. And you know, I think another positive

728
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: thing is like who's is yet to still get going?

729
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: K cps yet to still get going? And once that happens,

730
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a wrap, it's a rap, you

731
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I Mean, we know what we're

732
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: going to get out of a D and Lebron, but

733
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: our guys are still yet to really actually get going,

734
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: so that that's actually something to look forward to. And

735
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Game four is going to be close, honestly,

736
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: I really don't. Well, it'll be interesting to see because

737
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: if they if the role players keep missing shots, it

738
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: will certainly be contested to a certain extent. You know

739
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: what you said, it was really interesting, like the first half,

740
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Lakers weren't playing their best. Frank Vogel

741
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: actually came out and said that wasn't like her basketball,

742
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: at least on the offensive ent, and this is what

743
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: he said. And then I agree in a lot of ways.

744
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: The funny thing was, you know, like you said, in

745
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: the third quarter, Lebron came over, came out and kind

746
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: of took the game over. And in the first half

747
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: he was plus no I'm when Lebron was on the floor,

748
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: and I think the Lakers went in to half time

749
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: up three if I remember correctly. Um, But anyway, the

750
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: point is is, like, you know, these games have all

751
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: these different phases, right the first game was like the

752
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: ship Show. For the first half was like the ship

753
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: Show phase where neither team could score and it was

754
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: super competitive, and and then obviously most of the fourth

755
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: quarter was basically a house of highlights reel with like

756
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: bloopers and and and and and fun stuff. But they're

757
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. You know, in that first seven

758
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: minute shift, Lebron came in and just stepped on their neck.

759
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: And then the end of the third quarter, Anthony Davis

760
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: just completely executed them, um with his physicality. And so

761
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: it was a Lebron in a d execution in a

762
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: twelve minute quarter. And I think of what did they

763
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: hold the Suns to like twelve points in that quarter?

764
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: Like it just was it just again It's it's these

765
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: decisive moments of the games where where you kind of

766
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: put it all together and and it ends up swinging

767
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: the outcome. And I thought that's what happened to night

768
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: right right. And the crazy thing is, I mean, if

769
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: you if you really watch the first half Lebron, I

770
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: feel like he was just trying to get his guys going,

771
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: because when he was driving in him he was really

772
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: just looking to pass. And I felt like, you know,

773
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: watching that, it was like, okay, let's let's get everybody

774
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: going and see what we can do, and didn't really

775
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: work out that well. So second half he was just

776
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: like okay, you know, let me let me take control

777
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: of this game, and that's when everything switched. It's just

778
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: it's it's honestly, it's incredible to watch how he can

779
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: literally just take over a game. Yeah, I'm with you

780
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: on that. I feel like he took their belief right

781
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: and at third quarter, I know that's more like an

782
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: intangible kind of thing, but you can kind of see it.

783
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Um when he goes on those runs. Man, playoff Lebron.

784
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: That's that stuff. It's really like he didn't have to

785
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: tap into his full bag tonight, but when he turned

786
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: it on, he got he got them up. He knew

787
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: that was the time to kind of build the lead

788
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: from like ten or fifteen. He started attacking the rim,

789
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: getting to the basket, getting hand ones, getting dunks as well.

790
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: He could just see he was feeling feeling it might

791
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: agree with you. There my favorite thing. Man. It's going

792
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: around on Twitter right now, but he's literally has his

793
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: back towards it, towards Crowder and he has a smile

794
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: on his face like I'm about to cook this dude.

795
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm about to cook this man. It's incredible to watch. Man.

796
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: We joked earlier that that was like kind of like

797
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: Lebron psychology, you know, just him him, you know, in

798
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: a series tied at one in a fourth quarter against

799
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: the two seed, you know, uh, in a series that

800
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: after Game one the Lakers are only a minus one

801
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: twenty favorite. And uh and in him my kind of

802
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: toying with Jake Crowder like that, it just sends a

803
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: psychological message to the opponent. And and and a lot

804
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: of team there are teams that won't shrink from that.

805
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: And we'll see what happens with Phoenix. They very well

806
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: my fight to the to the bitter end. But there's

807
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: a there's a long, long laundry list of teams in

808
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference that just simply folded when Lebron did

809
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And that's why he does it.

810
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: It's a psychological warfare. Yeah, I agree, a you. We

811
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother. I'm gonna trying to get a few

812
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: more because we're gonna appreciate you. Man, Yes, sir, get

813
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: my guy the pettious Laker fan. Yo, what guys? What's

814
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: going on? Man? Hew y'all doing? What's up? Are you there?

815
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Okay? I can hear you? Yeah? Yeah?

816
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, My man, I

817
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: was saying, I love what you guys do. Man, I

818
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: try to get getting here whenever. I just wanted to say,

819
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: I just really appreciate that. Like, I don't know, I

820
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: haven't been able to see the team put it all

821
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: together in one game, and to an extent, we still did.

822
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: But I feel a lot more confident about this team

823
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: after seeing them put it put it together on the

824
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: defensive end. Fully, I feel like this game was like

825
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: the first game. They were fully you know, firing on

826
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: all cylinders for most of the game and then and

827
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: then um offensively in the third quarter. It showed what

828
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: the Lakers can do when Lebron's just decides, Hey, I'm

829
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: gonna put my head down against the basket. So um,

830
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: I want to kind of what you guys thought about

831
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Lebron and and the I know you guys talked about

832
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: playoff Lebron a little bit, But what did you guys

833
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: see different than the third quarter versus like, you know,

834
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: the first half. Well, I thought that was the first

835
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: time since the Denver game before the Lebron and a

836
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: d injuries in the second half of that game earlier

837
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: this year. Tonight was the first time since then that

838
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: I've seen their defensive ceiling, because if you remember, that

839
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: was when Denver had Yoka Jaanbury and everybody, and the

840
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: Lakers just shut their water off and they couldn't do anything.

841
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: And and you know, we talked a lot earlier in

842
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: the pot about how you know that's their defensive ceiling,

843
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: which is different than their day to day effort. That's

844
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: like when everyone's engaged in Lebron in an a D

845
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: or on the floor, and what they can do on

846
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: the back line defensively, how how it can take even

847
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: super high end offenses and just make things extraordinarily difficult

848
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: for them. And I, as as I've said for two

849
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: years now with Raj, I think this Laker defense is

850
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: an all time great defense. And when they flipped that switch,

851
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: it just flat out wins games. And I thought, I

852
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: thought that was the driving force in combination with Lebron

853
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: at the start of the third quarter and a D

854
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the third quarter doing what they

855
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: did offensively, Lebron driving the basket and passing the ball,

856
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: and then a D just as a as a physical uh,

857
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: just mammoth around the paint, grabbing offensive rebounds and just

858
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: beating the hell out of the Sun's physically. Yeah, I

859
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: agree with you, and just with the Lebron point. Like

860
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: you could tell I said this earlier, but he's kind

861
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: of pacing himself, right. This is when too, he's trying

862
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: to get to win sixteen, right, and he knows even

863
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: though for us like every game is like a you know,

864
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Game seven, need to put your heart out every every night. Um,

865
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: you could tell he picks his spots in that third quarter,

866
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: he really picked that. He picked his spots to go

867
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: to the rim. Miles Bridges couldn't couldn't handle him, Jake

868
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: Crowd or all those dudes he spun Baseline a bunch

869
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: of times, getting to the rim, getting dunks, doing stuff

870
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: that he wasn't doing. And with the defense like this

871
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: is this is a top level. I thought the Lakers

872
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: last year had probably the best defense I've seen. Um

873
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: this year, I think they can probably get get to

874
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: that as well, maybe even a little better. I think

875
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: Jason believes a little better. But um that when those

876
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: when those dudes are engaged, Lebron and a d to

877
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: me are still the best off ball defensive players in

878
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: the league. And when you have your guards mixed with that,

879
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: like it's a tough thing to score on. Phoenix is

880
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: a good offensive team. I'm not sure where they finished.

881
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: I think they finished top five or something offensively, I

882
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: have to check with that, but to hold them under

883
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: a hundred is is huge. So I agree with you

884
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: on that that third quarter and that defense looks legitimate

885
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: and ready to go. Dude. That last thing I want

886
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: to say before I get out of here, and I

887
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you that's having me on is on that same point,

888
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: I love. I wish that Frank Vogel got his flowers

889
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: more because I think, um, a lot of people thought

890
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: he was an all time great defensive line even before

891
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: it before even coming to the Lakers, but he hadn't

892
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: really had anything to kind of show for it as

893
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: far as like in the highest level stide from those

894
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: you know Pacers series that really you know, took Lebron

895
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: to the limit. But I'm really hoping that like in

896
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: the next you know, from his um stint here at

897
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: the Lakers, and also like that that marriage between him

898
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: and a D, those things that he could do with

899
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: a D is just like amazing. So I really hope

900
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: that he gets the flowers and the appreciation that you

901
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: guys are giving them too. I'm with you, man, I

902
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: think I think he doesn't get enough. He gets some.

903
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: He has some lineups that drive us crazy right to

904
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: the regular season. These experimental the Dramma minutes kind of

905
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: drove us crazy the Rondo minutes last year. But I

906
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: think these are all the means to an end. I

907
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: think they have an idea of what they're trying to do,

908
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: even if we all kind of disagree with it at times. Um,

909
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: there's a means to an end here and and we'll

910
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: see if it continues. But he just definitely deserves some

911
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: credit for what's going on here. Getting a number one

912
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: defense without Lebron and a d for pretty much halfter

913
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: season is is no joke. Yeah, the guy that the

914
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: guy to uh to listen to a little bit more

915
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: detailed excess and those version of this is that Tim Cranes.

916
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: That Cranze just Cranze, just mack basketball. He does an

917
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: awesome job of kind of mapping this stuff out from

918
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: what I saw it live, and I'll try to look

919
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: more when we were watching when we watched the film,

920
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: but I really just thought the Lakers were much more

921
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: physical off ball in that pick and roll, because, like

922
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: it just seemed like that that two man game was

923
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: so free flowing through the first two games, and there

924
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: just was no contact around the rim as that stuff

925
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: was happening. And I thought the Lakers set a tone

926
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: early that lasted throughout the game where they were just

927
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: going to be more physical, and I thought that that

928
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: was a big part of the way it shut it down. Um.

929
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then you're right, Frank deserves a ton

930
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: of credit for being a part of that chess match. Alright, Yes,

931
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: thank you, appreciating me, Thanks, thank you, We appreciate you.

932
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: Thanks man. Let's try to get two more here. I

933
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: think we're running up on an hour. Sounds good, two more, okay, Basilio,

934
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: are you there? Hey? What's up, my guys? How are

935
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing fine? All about you doing well? Well?

936
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? Oh good? Oh good? I have

937
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: four thorts teams between the leap and one thing is

938
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: the A D Snake crowd is really quiet right now.

939
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: And there's the second thing, Booker, I think he dropped

940
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: twenty four in the first game. Are you know that

941
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: juts Man boggle may for him to keep paying nineteen points? Yeah,

942
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: they they definitely have the Biggs coming up higher on

943
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: the stream, So like when Booker gets a screen, drumming

944
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: is kind of at the level of it. Instead of

945
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: being back in like this help and recover, there's kind

946
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: of no no, no Roman behind kind of coverage that

947
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: let's Booker kind of get right into his jumpers and

948
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: they've decided to get the ball his hands, so when

949
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: he has an isolation at the top of the key,

950
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: they'll send a double and it really makes him to

951
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: take really tough shots over contests, and that's why you

952
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: see his scoring output. It kind of go less and

953
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: less as these games go on. They're they're allowing eight

954
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: and to catch the ball at the rim, and that's

955
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: that when when Bookers passing to him, he's not taking

956
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: shots and the shots he does get are are pretty

957
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: tough or in transition do agree chasing, Yeah, it's it's

958
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: all adjustments, Like you gotta you gotta think about it

959
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: with respect to uh uh, what will work outside of

960
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: a one game sample. I mean, look at even beyond Booker,

961
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: look at Cameron Payne, but he went off there at

962
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth quarter when the Lakers totally

963
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: let their foot off the gas and let him get

964
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: loose and transition and catch wide open, catches you threes.

965
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: But the pick and roll stuff campaign was doing the

966
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: stuff that he killed them with in game two was

967
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: all shut off. And the same goes for Booker. Booker

968
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: in game one was just killing the Lakers, uh curling

969
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: off of hin downs and and then in ball screens

970
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: just getting to a shot too comfortably just inside the

971
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: three point and and and the Lakers have just made

972
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: a simple adjustment of just leading him at the screen.

973
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: Uh and and just being more physical in general. And

974
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: as Are one of our previous colors pointed out, it's

975
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: starting to really frustrate him and he's starting to lash out,

976
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: which is good for the Lakers because that can kind

977
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: of cause things to go off the rails and cause

978
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: you to do something stupid like shovel player in mid air. Okay,

979
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: And the last two things is are you a real

980
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: concerned about the a D he said he punstands his knee.

981
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: And the last thing, Chris Paul has been your in

982
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: the series, but Coming On Pain has kept the songs

983
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: in in kind of rounds. He made some a couple

984
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: of tree and I guess I think Coming On Pain

985
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: has been really great this series, he's been he's been amazing.

986
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: And look, if they have to go to Cameron Pain,

987
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: I think you've done your job. Pretty much Like if

988
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna hit tough step factor, he's he got a

989
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: few open ones, but he's driving to the rim kind

990
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: of finishing these tough layups. I think you live with

991
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: those throughout the flow of the game. Um, he's had

992
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: a great series. Credit to him getting himself back in

993
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: the league. But like the game planning for him is

994
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: tough when you already have Booker and Chris Paul, they

995
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: and eight and you're trying to, you know, manage all

996
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: these guys, and if campaign gets off on a few shots,

997
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: I think you live with it. I think most of

998
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: the shots are contested. Um, he's kind of he's been

999
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: guarded by Caruso. I trust him to kind of make

1000
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: that a tough matchup as a series goes on. But

1001
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: he's been great. I agree, he's hit tough shots. His

1002
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: speed has been a factor. He's getting by guys and

1003
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: he's hitting pull up reason transition. Just he's been amazing

1004
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: in this series. Credit to him. He's just in a

1005
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: groove too, man Like. I mean that that's kind of

1006
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: basketball in a nutshell too, Like sometimes some of this

1007
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: is beyond XS and os. You know, there's there is

1008
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: a certain amount that you can control with XS and

1009
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: os and effort and focus and blah blah blah and

1010
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: all the stuff that Rogs and I talked about every day.

1011
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like there's all

1012
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: things equal. You know, why is Alex Cruso, guy who

1013
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, shot the lights out all year, incapable of

1014
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: making anything? And Cameron Payne who has had a good

1015
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: season but it's playing way above his capabilities in this series,

1016
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: Like why is that the case? It's just because Alex

1017
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: Crusoe's not in the group right now, and and Cameron

1018
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Payne is very much in a group right now. And

1019
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: all you can hope is that at various points in

1020
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: the in the postseason, certain Lakers will make runs, just

1021
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: like Markith Morris went on a crazy run last year's postseason,

1022
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: or you know, Rondo had his moments, or you'd have

1023
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: KCP in the finals. You know that there you just

1024
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: hope that guys will pop up and make their runs.

1025
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: In this case, unfortunately for the Suns, campaign hasn't been enough. Um,

1026
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: but the Lakers You're gonna have Lakers role players to

1027
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: have their moments as well outside of what other teams

1028
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: can control. Yep, thanks, I appreciate you, man, Man, I

1029
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I hit the last last one up here.

1030
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: I think it was, uh, big seven are you doing? Hey, hey,

1031
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: what's going on? What's going on? Man? Not much? Pretty

1032
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: stoked we got the win tonight, even though we came

1033
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: out looking and it was really tough to watch that

1034
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: first half. I'm not gonna lie um with all the

1035
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: miss shots, wide open shots, you know. And I kind

1036
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: of liked how Um Frank brought in Ben Mapplemore for

1037
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: a little bit um before the before k CP went down.

1038
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: I think that, I mean, even just to try it

1039
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: out for a little bit. I think it was nice

1040
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: and it kind of hits the way he were saying

1041
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: earlier with you know, he's actually trying new stuff verses

1042
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: in the regular season when everyone was getting all upset,

1043
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, over him. Not I'm not trying new lineups.

1044
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: But you know, I think he's doing what he's supposed

1045
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: to do as a coach, and he's showing everyone like, hey,

1046
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: we won the finals last year and he is he

1047
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: is a champion. You know, as a coach, So I

1048
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: think he knows what he's doing. And yeah, I think

1049
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: I think he's really underrated for how well we're playing

1050
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: right now. I think that uh, as Roger and I

1051
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: have said throughout the last two years, Frank Vogel deserves

1052
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. He has shown that when

1053
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: push comes to shop, you'll make the adjustments that are necessary,

1054
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that we've talked about, like, think

1055
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: of it like this. We preached for Caruso all year

1056
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: last year as the better player than Rondo and as

1057
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: the player needed more minutes and who started Game six

1058
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: of the finals. So you know, we preached dumping centers

1059
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: last year because you know, even Dwight and uh Um

1060
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: Javal weren't as good options as Drummond or Gasol. And

1061
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: guess what, he dumped the centers for the most part

1062
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: in the postseason. So as far as I'm concerned, like

1063
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: we can, you know, express our concerns, but he deserves

1064
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt because he's shown the willingness

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Speaker 1: to make the necessary moves. Yeah, coach, coach. Coaching is hard,

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00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: man Like, it's not easy, like Bogol was what coaching

1067
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: in Orlando and had a bad team and sometimes you

1068
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: just never know what happened. Look at I think Tyler

1069
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: is a really good coach, um, and you know they're

1070
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: down oh two and he's having trouble finding lineups even

1071
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: with that same rondo. So it's tough. Man. Bogo deserves

1072
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: his credit. I think keeping keeping the defense where it was,

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00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: it's just so impressive to me. Go watch, I mean,

1074
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: go watch these other teams. Man. Look go watch Denver

1075
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: Portland tonight. Yeah, I think it was like sixty. So

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00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: just watching like him have a defensive kind of system

1077
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: that he's kept even with different personnel. Right, Drummonds different

1078
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: than like Dwight Howard. His skills are different. Being able

1079
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: to adapt to that is is key to me and coaching.

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00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: And he seems very transparent with his guys, and that's

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00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: all you can ask from a coach. And when you

1082
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: have Lebron and a d that's kind of your job.

1083
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Stay out the way and make sure you deal with

1084
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: everything else. Let the stars kind of take care of

1085
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: what they do. I think the last thing I just

1086
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: have to say is I don't know when people will

1087
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: start to understand, like if you talk trash or Lebron

1088
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: like throughout the game campaign kind of you know, talking

1089
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: to him throughout the game, and it's like, what are

1090
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: you trying to do? Because when he came out that

1091
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: third quarter, it was you know, and I was listening

1092
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: to the halftime show with Charles you know, saying, oh,

1093
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: he's hurt. He he looks bad, he does not look good.

1094
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Lebron saw that um and

1095
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: was like, okay, watch this, because he literally came out

1096
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: that second half and all those little you know, the

1097
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: rumors all he doesn't have that explosive jump. It's like

1098
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: he literally showed that way. He scored like six or ten.

1099
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many scored in a row right

1100
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: when that thing sorry, but you know, it's I don't

1101
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: know when people just get It's like the same thing

1102
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: with Kobe. You know, it's like if you're gonna be

1103
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: poking at him, he's gonna get you. So, I mean,

1104
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's funny to see it because

1105
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: it just keeps happening. So I don't think there's anything

1106
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: wrong with talking trash. I think you just gotta be

1107
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: prepared to face the consequences, like you know, for me

1108
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: personally that my time playing basketball, I've always been the

1109
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: kind of guy that like I'll talk when someone talks

1110
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 1: to me first, but I'll never started. But they're they're

1111
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: completely different guys out there that will start it all

1112
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: the time. And you know, like I'm like, like, you know,

1113
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: Lebron kind of strikes me as that kind of guy,

1114
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: like the guy that isn't he's not out there actively

1115
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: seeking that kind of thing, but you know, inevitably there

1116
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: are guys that come his way with that type of deal.

1117
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: And like that's the thing like Crowder, Crowder got Crowder

1118
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: got into it with Lebron in the fourth quarter and

1119
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, nobody cares what happened the rest of the game.

1120
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: That highlight play on that spinoff is gonna end up

1121
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: being what leaves everything for the next twenty four hour

1122
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: news cycle. And it's like that's the price you pay.

1123
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: Like Patrick Beverley talked a bunch of trash to Luca,

1124
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: and what went viral is is Luca just spamming him

1125
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: into the basket and then him saying that he's yelling

1126
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: at too I think small and screaming into the Clipper

1127
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: bench like it's it's a dangerous game and if you play,

1128
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: if you play the game, you know, sometimes you win,

1129
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: sometimes you lose. But I I personally don't see the

1130
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: advantage and starting that kind of thing. But they're they're

1131
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: players who do and I'm not going to tell them

1132
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: they're wrong, you know, I don't. I don't mind it.

1133
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: And like that. There's guy like Draymond Montraz Harrold even

1134
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: it looks like a little bit campaign. They live off it, right,

1135
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: like they that ship needs to be something on their shoulder,

1136
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: and they create it anyhow they can um and I

1137
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: don't mind if you can bet him back it up.

1138
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: John Moran another guy really aggressive when he gets going,

1139
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with it. It's a line there. You

1140
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: don't want to be dirty playing like you know, dirty

1141
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: pouls and stuff like that. But a little trash dog

1142
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: that's part of basketball around the world. I don't have

1143
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: a problem with. And Lebron is probably you're right, not

1144
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: the guy to do it too, but these guys do

1145
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: it to everyone, so kind of how it works. Well,

1146
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: much love guys, Thank you, I appreciate you all right, everybody,

1147
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: thank you for hanging out with us for the last

1148
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Speaker 1: hour and some change. UM. We will be going live

1149
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: again on Sunday. I will be immediately taking the screen recording,

1150
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: converting it into a podcast and I will tweet it

1151
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: out and Rog will tweet it out as well. UM.

1152
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: As is always the case, we appreciate you guys choosing

1153
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: out with us UM to talk some Lakers and well

1154
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Speaker 1: we'll see you on Sunday. Thanks everyone, ASTs