Speaker 1: A quick warning. This story contains adult themes and strong language.
Speaker 1: Summer nineteen ninety seven. Somewhere in the Alps. It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful day and a young man is sitting in a
Speaker 1: white van. He's expecting a call any second from his boss.
Speaker 1: Once he gets the call, the operation is on, but
Speaker 1: timing is everything. Until he gets the call, he has
Speaker 1: to sit tight. He looks out the window. The view
Speaker 1: is stunning. Majestic peaks rise up on either side of
Speaker 1: a vast glacial lake. Beyond that the border, but he's
Speaker 1: not here for the view. He checks his map yet again.
Speaker 1: It'll take around twenty minutes to drive to the border crossing.
Speaker 1: He turns to check the back of the van. The
Speaker 1: bags are there, bags big enough to carry a lot of.
Speaker 2: Cash, millions for hundreds of thousands of certain currencies.
Speaker 1: And the man in the van, Yes, it's Lars, Lilah
Speaker 1: and Evelyn's trusty butler. And it's the first time he's
Speaker 1: told this story on the record.
Speaker 2: I remember distinctly finding out the specific weight and volume
Speaker 2: of dollars uros pounds.
Speaker 1: Lars lets out a long breath and glances at his phone. Nothing.
Speaker 1: Everything is going to be okay, he tells himself. It's simple.
Speaker 1: All he has to do is drive over the border,
Speaker 1: pick up the cash, and sneak back. You were being
Speaker 1: asked to smuggle. Yes, the most important thing is this.
Speaker 1: He can only make the crossing at a very specific time.
Speaker 2: When a customs official who had been bribed and prepared
Speaker 2: would let us through both ways without checking the vehicle.
Speaker 1: Lars waits and waits. There's a problem, something has gone wrong.
Speaker 1: The mission is aborted. Lars has to get out of
Speaker 1: there fast, but Lilah and Evelyn's butler is rather enjoying
Speaker 1: the thrill of it all. In fact, this is exactly
Speaker 1: the sort of adventure he's always dreamed of. Did you
Speaker 1: realize what you were doing?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I did it with my eyes open, knowing that this
Speaker 2: is not good.
Speaker 1: It was illegal.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Now we haven't found anyone who can corroborate all this,
Speaker 1: but if it's true, it makes me wonder. Was there
Speaker 1: far more to Evelyn's swindling operation than meets the eye?
Speaker 1: Was it far larger than anyone new from usg Audio
Speaker 1: Blanchard House and exactly right, media, this is royal swindle.
Speaker 1: I'm Becky Milligan. Episode five, starting over six months later
Speaker 1: spring nineteen ninety eight, the Hague Holland Evelyn, Lilah, and
Speaker 1: their loyal butler Lars, are on the run. They know
Speaker 1: that back in the UK, Detective Jim Frost is well
Speaker 1: and truly onto them. The the trio are having breakfast
Speaker 1: in a rather modest hotel. It's not smart or exclusive,
Speaker 1: and the service is far from impeccable. In fact, it's
Speaker 1: rather run down. This is not what Lilah has become
Speaker 1: accustomed to, and it's not the life Evelyn has always promised.
Speaker 3: Her miserable little hotel.
Speaker 1: Was, But the couple don't have much choice because their
Speaker 1: pot of cash has almost run dry.
Speaker 3: Horrible place.
Speaker 1: Just a few more days, Evelyn reassures Lilah. Normally, of
Speaker 1: course they'd be staying in a five star hotel and
Speaker 1: just not paying the bill. But after Sopwell House, Evelyn
Speaker 1: isn't taking the risk anyway. She's expecting funds to be
Speaker 1: wired from America any day now, a windfall.
Speaker 3: There was a huge amount of money coming in, and
Speaker 3: Evelyn said, we are going to be fine, don't worry.
Speaker 3: Organized more money and we will be all to survive
Speaker 3: for a long time.
Speaker 1: And it really is a huge amount. Now, it's not
Speaker 1: entirely clear where this cash is coming from. But on
Speaker 1: that cassette which Evelyn recorded for her never published memoir,
Speaker 1: she says an American associate owed her fifty million US dollars.
Speaker 1: If she's about to call in that debt, it will
Speaker 1: set the couple up for life, a life of real luxury.
Speaker 1: Lila will want for nothing. Evelyn will deliver on her
Speaker 1: wedding day promise. So despite the horrid hotel and Lilah sulking,
Speaker 1: everything is looking pretty peachy. Except a whole week goes
Speaker 1: by and there's no sign of any money in Evelyn's account.
Speaker 1: Probably wise not to stay in one place for too long,
Speaker 1: Evelyn thinks. So it's back in the car lars at
Speaker 1: the wheel.
Speaker 2: We continued from there to Amsterdam, stayed for one week
Speaker 2: at the Tulip Hotel.
Speaker 1: Another city, another cheap hotel. Evelyn keeps reassuring Lilah. But
Speaker 1: another week goes by, still no sign of the money.
Speaker 1: Evelyn is chasing her American contact, Come on, where's the cash.
Speaker 1: Then at last the money lands in Evelyn's account. But
Speaker 1: there's a problem the money. It's not millions, far from it. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's little more than a few grand that's it. Evelyn
Speaker 1: has no idea what has gone wrong, but she doesn't
Speaker 1: have to to find out. The longer they stay put,
Speaker 1: the greater the risk of being tracked down by Jim
Speaker 1: Frost in the UK. They have to get going. But
Speaker 1: where they need a place which is far away, a
Speaker 1: safe haven where no one will know who they are.
Speaker 1: Evelyn and Lilah discuss where on earth that could be?
Speaker 3: Where do you want to go? As I don't know, Jen,
Speaker 3: and we haven't been near to Auckland, why don't we
Speaker 3: try there? That might be really nice?
Speaker 1: And I suppose it was a place where you the
Speaker 1: police went after you yet.
Speaker 3: Well, au Gusto.
Speaker 1: So that's decided New Zealand it is.
Speaker 3: We paid our hotel bill. What's far as I knowing you?
Speaker 3: M you ever thought about that?
Speaker 1: Very funny, Lilah. Lilah and Evelyn are packing up, ready
Speaker 1: to leave, but there is one thing they have to do.
Speaker 1: It's Lars, with his sweet smile and blonde hair. He's
Speaker 1: not going with them. It's time to bid farewell to
Speaker 1: their loyal butler, their confidante. Lars holds his arms up
Speaker 1: to the two women.
Speaker 3: I gave him a hag, sort of a hag. Well,
Speaker 3: I don't quite know what Lar's called tugs, but sideways hag,
Speaker 3: you know, the sort of thing I said. You know,
Speaker 3: this brings to an endo lovely relationship.
Speaker 1: Lars has been with them for over a year. The
Speaker 1: bonds are deep.
Speaker 3: It was horrible, was absolutely horrible. It was like saying
Speaker 3: goodbye to a really really, really really really best friend person,
Speaker 3: not a battle. He was too sweet, just too lovely,
Speaker 3: and we didn't want to see the last of him.
Speaker 1: So not just a butler and also not just a friend.
Speaker 1: Lars has become an accomplice. Don't forget this guy was
Speaker 1: willing to smuggle money across borders for our duo. The
Speaker 1: two women tell him to return to Sweden and lie
Speaker 1: low for Lars. It's the end of the adventure.
Speaker 2: Time to ride into the sunset and disappear.
Speaker 1: So as Lars boards his playing to Sweden, Evelyn and
Speaker 1: Lilah are boarding their plane to New Zealand, a brand
Speaker 1: new place and a fresh start. It's just what they
Speaker 1: do over and over again. They want to get as
Speaker 1: far away from Detective Jim Frost as possible.
Speaker 3: Goodbye crowl Goodbye England, Goodbye what is that?
Speaker 1: And Hello New Zealand. Lilah is impressed. She loves their
Speaker 1: new home.
Speaker 3: Look at this place. They messed sweep all the roads
Speaker 3: every day. It was gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And so their new life begins. But it's not so easy. Remember,
Speaker 1: they've hardly got any cash. Their money just about stretches
Speaker 1: to a small motel. Lilah has to wash their clothes
Speaker 1: in a communal laundry, and there's certainly no room service.
Speaker 1: This is not a suite at the Berkley. They've really
Speaker 1: come down in the world, and it's tough for the couple,
Speaker 1: not only because they're running out of money, but also
Speaker 1: because Evelyn, the confident, funny chatterbox. Evelyn, well, she's not
Speaker 1: quite herself.
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to get some things sorted out in her head.
Speaker 3: She said, I haven't got anyone here. I need to
Speaker 3: talk to someone about what's going on in my life.
Speaker 1: But that someone isn't Lilah.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you all right yet, I'm fine, you sure
Speaker 3: talk to me. I don't need to talk to you.
Speaker 3: I'll talk to someone else.
Speaker 1: Lilah's hurt. Those intimate chats they used to have in
Speaker 1: bed late at night, those haven't happened for a while.
Speaker 1: They've been together for years and it's never been like
Speaker 1: this before. They've always been so in love, Evelyn's always
Speaker 1: been so doting. Now it feels like they're drifting further
Speaker 1: and further apart. Then Lilah has an idea, an idea
Speaker 1: which will get Evelyn out of the house, meet people,
Speaker 1: take her out of herself. They could join a local
Speaker 1: lesbian so social.
Speaker 3: Group, and I said, we really should. In that way,
Speaker 3: we'll get fringed, we'll be able to talk our own language.
Speaker 3: It should be quite fun. Would you like to do it? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So that's what they do, and it is fun.
Speaker 1: But then something happens, something unexpected. Evelyn meets someone, a
Speaker 1: woman from the lesbian group. They start spending time together,
Speaker 1: and at first it's fine, they're just friends. Lila doesn't mind.
Speaker 3: But then I said, I've got to go out with
Speaker 3: them more often, and I thought, Hello, something's going on here.
Speaker 3: And I think that they've been sleeping together. Whatever they
Speaker 3: were doing.
Speaker 1: Now, we have no idea whether that's true or not,
Speaker 1: but in any case, Lila doesn't feel good about it.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I think I felt jealous. I would have
Speaker 3: felt jealous because it wasn't nice.
Speaker 1: Lilah realizes something.
Speaker 3: I said to him, I'm unneasing you anti dalling.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, now Evelyn is feeling a
Speaker 1: bit better. Magically, their cash flow improves as well. And
Speaker 1: if the money's coming in, that always makes Lila feel
Speaker 1: a bit better too. Do you start going shopping again
Speaker 1: and having a bit of cash? Of course, of course
Speaker 1: on clothes, furniture, fancy food and all the lovely things
Speaker 1: that Lilah loves. Not only that, they move to a
Speaker 1: new part of town, one of the most desirable suburbs
Speaker 1: in New Zealand, with friendly neighbors and most importantly, very
Speaker 1: rich friendly neighbors. There's just one thing, a question which
Speaker 1: it seems Lila never stops to ask, where is all
Speaker 1: the money coming from? Meanwhile, back in England, Detective Constable
Speaker 1: Jim Frost has no idea that Evelyn and Lilah have
Speaker 1: fled to New Zealand. He's still busy gathering evidence about
Speaker 1: their antics with the Horsey set, and he's made another breakthrough.
Speaker 1: He's obtained Evelyn's bank statements and their dynamite.
Speaker 4: We can see money is coming in from investors, and
Speaker 4: we can see Evelyn and Lilah having a whale of
Speaker 4: a time on this one particular shopping spry eight thousand
Speaker 4: pounds in a day at John Lewis.
Speaker 1: John Lewis is like the British version of Macy's.
Speaker 4: Buying curtains and bits and bobs and furniture. God knows
Speaker 4: what they were doing it they didn't have a house.
Speaker 1: This is real evidence, in black and white, in print,
Speaker 1: there for everyone to see. Jim can categorically show that.
Speaker 4: None of the money was invested, not one dime, not
Speaker 4: one penny he was invested. No, No, they just spent
Speaker 4: it on having a good time.
Speaker 1: And in a court case before a judge and jury,
Speaker 1: he calculates.
Speaker 4: That's cast iron evidence, which is so compelling. You know
Speaker 4: you're you're onto a winner.
Speaker 1: Really, he thinks he's got everything he needs to put
Speaker 1: our duo behind bars. But of course, when he goes
Speaker 1: back to Evelyn and Lilah's last known address.
Speaker 4: We found out that they disappeared, vanished.
Speaker 1: Jim kicks himself. He realizes that decision to call Evelyn
Speaker 1: in question her, well, it's backfired big time, and now
Speaker 1: he knows it.
Speaker 4: I was pissed off. We were all pissed off.
Speaker 1: And that's putting it mildly. He's been working on this
Speaker 1: case for months.
Speaker 4: I know that I've got the evidence to convict them,
Speaker 4: and I don't want to lose that.
Speaker 1: But Jim's dogged. Remember he's a thief taker. He isn't
Speaker 1: about to throw in the towel. Far from it.
Speaker 4: That was just not gonna happen because I wasn't gonna
Speaker 4: let them go.
Speaker 1: But for now, Detective Jim Frost has no idea whatsoever
Speaker 1: where his thieves are hiding away, no clues, in fact,
Speaker 1: no leads at all. Auckland, New Zealand.
Speaker 4: Marine Prague was a very old and established street in
Speaker 4: a very old established suburb in.
Speaker 1: Bay Lilah and Evelyn's new neighborhood, A perfect place to
Speaker 1: hide a bungalow in the back of beyond deep in
Speaker 1: suburbia where nothing ever happens. Meet the couple's new neighbors,
Speaker 1: Katherine and Greg Buckley.
Speaker 5: We were number forty and ours was a little nineteen
Speaker 5: sixties brick and tile place, quite low to the ground.
Speaker 5: They were number forty two, so slightly uphill of us.
Speaker 5: There was a big hedge between us and these was
Speaker 5: one of the slightly grander bungalows.
Speaker 1: A few days after Evelyn and Lila move in, Katherine
Speaker 1: and Greg pop round to welcome them.
Speaker 5: We're not muffin bakers, Greg and I. But if you
Speaker 5: were a muff and baker, you would have arrived with
Speaker 5: your box of muffins.
Speaker 1: But we didn't.
Speaker 5: We just arrived and said hi.
Speaker 1: They meet Lila first.
Speaker 5: Well, she's just this beamy, smiley little woman.
Speaker 1: Little does she know who she's really dealing with, though
Speaker 1: she does sense Lila's concealing something.
Speaker 5: I'm a natural red head, and I think I can
Speaker 5: spotted not natural red head.
Speaker 1: But of course Lilah's concealing much more than that. Lilah
Speaker 1: tells them that Evelyn is a financial advisor. Right, okay,
Speaker 1: pretty well to do, thanks Catherine. But then she notices
Speaker 1: the decor inside the house. Now she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: come across as a snob, but when she pokes her
Speaker 1: head in the door, she thinks.
Speaker 5: You know that weird, like not stylish, not classy at all.
Speaker 5: And the most outstanding thing for me was that there
Speaker 5: were just like little China ornaments everywhere.
Speaker 1: It was quite old Lady Nana style. Now Lilah would
Speaker 1: certainly take issue with that description. She loves her new
Speaker 1: house and she's got it just how she wants it.
Speaker 3: Gorgeous, a gay guar's house, what can I say?
Speaker 1: Of course, Greg and Catherine don't let on. They find
Speaker 1: it all rather chintzy. And more importantly, their kids love
Speaker 1: Evelyn and Lila's dogs.
Speaker 5: They had the fattest little pug one or two two two.
Speaker 1: They could barely move they were.
Speaker 5: So fed, probably overfeed clearly, you know, the apples of
Speaker 5: their eye.
Speaker 1: But the kids don't care how fat the pugs are.
Speaker 1: They just love playing with them and taking them for walks.
Speaker 5: But you couldn't walk them very fat because to drag
Speaker 5: them the poor little things hit you know, leagues about
Speaker 5: three inches long.
Speaker 4: They just love the dogs and this quaint old lady
Speaker 4: in the house.
Speaker 1: Quaint old lady. That's Lilah they're talking about. But Lila
Speaker 1: is happy. She's loving life in the suburbs. Cash is
Speaker 1: abundant and they're a long long way from the clutches
Speaker 1: of Detective Jim Frost in England. All that business with
Speaker 1: the Horsey set feels like another lifetime, all in the past.
Speaker 1: Their new neighborhood in Marine Parade is the perfect place
Speaker 1: to keep their heads down and their mouths shut. And
Speaker 1: as far as all their neighbors are concerned, Evelyn and
Speaker 1: Lilah are just a couple of sweet old ladies from
Speaker 1: Australia with a pair of pugs. Until it's a regular
Speaker 1: day in marine parade in Auckland. Katherine is out front
Speaker 1: when she bumps into Evelyn and Lilah's landlord, Kevin, who
Speaker 1: she knows well.
Speaker 5: And he said, oh, I've just got something to let
Speaker 5: you know. And he came either and he didn't stand
Speaker 5: on the street and chat.
Speaker 1: He insists they go inside, which is very unusual. He says,
Speaker 1: it's about your new neighbors.
Speaker 5: How much of you had to do with Evelyn and Layla.
Speaker 1: Catherine looks at him perplexed.
Speaker 5: And I said, oh, you know, not match the dogs
Speaker 5: and waving over the fence and what have you.
Speaker 1: And he said, well, don't now she's listening like coul
Speaker 1: carry on, fill me in, don't what. As Kevin speaks,
Speaker 1: Catherine's eyes widen. She can't believe it. Evelyn and Lilah,
Speaker 1: he says, are known fraudsters. Kevin warns her.
Speaker 5: Do not let them talk you into doing anything with money.
Speaker 5: Don't let them borrow money from you, don't suggest that
Speaker 5: you know you can invest with them, just have nothing
Speaker 5: to do with them.
Speaker 1: Then Kevin says, one last thing. They have to keep
Speaker 1: this information to themselves. They cannot they must not talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: We weren't supposed to go Blair Blair Blair because Auckland's
Speaker 5: a small town.
Speaker 1: And that's it. Kevin says goodbye and shuts the front
Speaker 1: door behind him. Catherine stunned, she replays the conversation in
Speaker 1: her head. Known fraudsters, the question is known by whom
Speaker 1: who knows where they are? Well, I can tell you
Speaker 1: one thing. It's not Detective Jim Frost in the UK.
Speaker 1: He still has no idea where they're hiding out. For
Speaker 1: Evelyn and Lilah, life carries on as normal. There's no
Speaker 1: sign at all that trouble might be brewing. Catherine and
Speaker 1: Gregg prove to be rather good at keeping secrets. No
Speaker 1: in Marine Parade, everything's as it always has been. Evelyn
Speaker 1: and Lilah have plenty of money coming in, so Evelyn
Speaker 1: decides to treat herself. One morning, she turns to Lilah.
Speaker 3: She said, look, I want a flet tummy. I think
Speaker 3: I need to go and have a flet tummy.
Speaker 1: Evelyn has always been generous with her money, well not
Speaker 1: her money exactly, but for once she actually wants to
Speaker 1: do something for herself. Evelyn decides to have liposuction. It's
Speaker 1: a cosmetic procedure, kind of like vacuuming fat from her
Speaker 1: belly and then followed up with a tummy tuck. She
Speaker 1: books herself into a private hospital. On the day of
Speaker 1: the procedure, all seems to be going well. The doctor
Speaker 1: says they'll be in touch once Evelyn is out of
Speaker 1: the operating room, so Lila goes home and takes a nap.
Speaker 1: Lila wakes up. She expects the voice on the other
Speaker 1: end of the call to be the doctor at Evelyn's
Speaker 1: private hospital, but it isn't. It's from a public hospital
Speaker 1: and it's an emergency.
Speaker 3: We've got evil unburdening here. Do you know who? And
Speaker 3: I said, yes, I do. Why Oh, They've just brought
Speaker 3: her in in an ambulance.
Speaker 1: Lilah rushes to the public hospital. She finds Evelyn in
Speaker 1: her room in terrible pain. Something has gone wrong with
Speaker 1: the operation, very wrong.
Speaker 3: She was looking really bad and she was just everything
Speaker 3: about it was just awful.
Speaker 1: Evelyn is not okay.
Speaker 3: Larly, I feel terrible. I feel terrible. I'm dying. I'm dying.
Speaker 3: I'm dying. I know I'm dying.
Speaker 1: Were you scared?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, because she was dying.
Speaker 1: I swear the wound from the stomach procedure has opened
Speaker 1: and become very seriously infected. And then even worse, they
Speaker 1: discover Evelyn's had a stroke in her apartment. Lila shows
Speaker 1: me a photo of the wound taken at the time.
Speaker 1: It's really shocking to see a huge wound gaping open,
Speaker 1: red and raw and weeping. The way Lilah tells it,
Speaker 1: Evelyn was discharged in a pretty dire state.
Speaker 3: So that was the wound, right, That is shocking. I
Speaker 3: actually dicked that up for her.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you did that, because that looks right.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't know. I just do things. You just
Speaker 3: do it anyway. I was able to put two fists
Speaker 3: in who bury.
Speaker 1: Into the wound in Oh. Evelyn eventually comes home, but
Speaker 1: she's a shell of the woman she used to be.
Speaker 1: She needs a lot of care and tension, and Lilah
Speaker 1: spends all her time looking after her.
Speaker 3: I would wait night and day looking after her, feeding her,
Speaker 3: cleaning her up, doing her wounds.
Speaker 1: Slowly, very slowly. Evelyn begins to improve, but there's no
Speaker 1: money coming in. They're falling on hard times. Unless Lila
Speaker 1: can earn they'll be thrown out of the bungalow. So
Speaker 1: Lilah does what she knows best.
Speaker 3: I opened another little B and D place within the
Speaker 3: house that when we're living.
Speaker 1: Of course, yes, Lilah brings bondage and discipline to Marine Parade.
Speaker 1: Did you get some customers?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, right, and what was your name there?
Speaker 3: Madame's Via.
Speaker 1: So you return to the old job, hehew, Madame zav
Speaker 1: The era is back in business.
Speaker 3: And I was doing maybe an hour, hour and a
Speaker 3: half a work a day, and that was bringing in
Speaker 3: maybe three hundred dollars a day from one client. And
Speaker 3: our great clients, they really were, they were excellent.
Speaker 1: Now, Catherine and Greg might know that they're living next
Speaker 1: door to known fraudsters, and of course Evelyn and Lilah
Speaker 1: have no idea. Katherine and Greg know that, but Catherine
Speaker 1: and Greg have absolutely no idea. Lila is running a
Speaker 1: B and D business right next door to them. So
Speaker 1: things are starting to get very interesting in Marine Parade.
Speaker 1: More interesting than they've been in a very, very long time,
Speaker 1: and things are about to get even more interesting. So
Speaker 1: Evelyn's recovering and Lilah's working because the cash run dry,
Speaker 1: and Lilah hopes that as soon as Evelyn is back
Speaker 1: on her feet, things will all go back to normal.
Speaker 1: But they never will. Their world in their leafy suburb
Speaker 1: in Marine Parade is about to implode. Nothing will ever
Speaker 1: be the same again, because where did all that cash
Speaker 1: come from? Well? Remember that woman who Lilah was jealous of,
Speaker 1: the one Evelyn had been spending all that time with. Well,
Speaker 1: she's Evelyn's latest victim, who Evelyn swindled tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars out of. It's the usual m O. Evelyn
Speaker 1: promises miracle returns on a modest upfront investment, an upfront
Speaker 1: investment that goes straight into Evelyn's pocket, and as usual,
Speaker 1: Lilah pleads ignorance.
Speaker 3: I don't know, so.
Speaker 1: You didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the transaction at all.
Speaker 1: So yes, they rent on their lovely new home in
Speaker 1: Marine Parade, all the Chinsea China ornaments, the two overweight pugs,
Speaker 1: even the botched tummy tuck It's all paid for unknowingly
Speaker 1: by Evelyn's friend. But guess what that friend She's just
Speaker 1: called the cops. You've been listening to Royal Swindle at
Speaker 1: Blanchard House, production for USG Audio in partnership with Exactly
Speaker 1: Right Media, hosted by me Becky Milligan. It's written in
Speaker 1: used by me Becky Milligan and Sarah Jones. Original music
Speaker 1: is by Daniel Lloyd Evans, Louis Langmannell and Toby Mattimon.
Speaker 1: Sound design and mixed engineering is by Vulcan Kisseltok, Toby
Speaker 1: Mattimoon and Daniel Lloyd Evans. Story development by Duncan Barber.
Speaker 1: The managing producer is Amka Schortino Nolan. Production support from
Speaker 1: Josh la Longi at USG Audio. The creative director at
Speaker 1: Blanchard House is Rosy Pye. The executive producer and head
Speaker 1: of Content at Blanchard House is Lawrence Grisell. Our executive
Speaker 1: producer from USG Audio is Josh Block