1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to battle Ground. This is a 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: podcast where battling friends talk all things wrestling and laugh 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: with comedians that are way funnier than him. And you 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: never know who's going to stop by. Here is your host, Battle. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: And we're back. It's another episode of battle Ground. My 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: name is Battle Thank you guys so much for hanging 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: out and downloading the podcast. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: Eli is not here today. He had to go out 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: of town. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: But there's a big event happening tomorrow night over in Morrison, Tennessee. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: It is at the Victory Center, Sideshow Wrestling putting on 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: their big Super Showdown show. The main event the Carneys 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: versus Billy Gunn and James Storm. And it just so 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: happens that one half of the Carney's is going to 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: be hanging out with us in the studio today. Carrie Awful, 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: And if you'd like to get your tickets for this 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Super Showdown Sideshow Wrestling on Facebook, just search Sideshow Wrestling 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: and the bell rings at eight o'clock. So, without further ado, 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: why don't we just go ahead and jump on into it. 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: Carry Awful, one half of the Carneys in studio. 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: Let's get ready to rumble all right, it is going 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: down tomorrow Morrison, Tennessee Side Show Wrestling, Super Showdown. 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: Tons of people gonna be there WW Hall of Famer, 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: Billy Gunn, former Impact Wrestling star James Storm, and some 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: guys that are gonna be wrestling him on tomorrow on 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: a tag team match. The Carney's gonna be there. Carry 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Awful is in the buildin. 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: How you doing, man, I'm doing excellent, wonderful despite my 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: last name being Awful. Everything's coming up Milhouse like on 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: The Simpsons. I am so excited about this opportunity at 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: Side Show Wrestling on Saturday to wrestle two people who 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: defined tag team wrestling. I mean, look at James Storm, 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: his work with America's Most Wanted and beer money. And 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: even if we go back to America's Most Wanted. I 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: remember to the asylum, lying to my parents in high 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: school saying it's going to go study yep. And I 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: would drive to downtown Nashville to the sketchy Legendary Fairgrounds 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: every Wednesday night. Yeah, And so getting to wrestle him 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 4: and the state of Tennessee is really cool. It's super 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: cool to wrestle Billy Gunn, who's it's not any secret. 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: Billy Guns like one of Nick's, if not Nick's favorite wrestler, 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: So like things like that are always going to be special, 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: especially considering and I think this might be his first 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: match after going into the Hall of Fame. 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: I think it is, according to everything I've seen. I mean, 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: he hasn't done anything since then. So yeah, yeah, first 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: match for you guys against them. 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is great, especially because we're gonna dump them 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: with a force destroyer right on their brain and tell 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: them to, you know, get out of our state because 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: we are tag team wrestling in the state of Tennessee now. 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: And as great as there accolades and contributions to professional 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: wrestling are, they're not the circus. They're not the Carnies, 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: the ring leader, Nick Giggee, the dog Face Gargoyle carry awful. 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: It's funny you meet a lot of your idols in 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 4: wrestling at sometimes it's real cool and sometimes it's real bad. 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, the only thing 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: I'm really worried about is beating them. Because even though 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: that Billy just went into the Hall of Fame, and 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: even though James Storm has done all this for Tennessee, 61 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 4: the last eight years of my life and my tag 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: team partner's life. I've wrestled all over this country getting 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: paid to do so, helped buy my house, and punches 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: and wristlocks and finger torture, pile drivers and power bombs. 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people there are going to 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 4: think and expect one thing, and I'm going to do 67 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 4: the exact opposite of that. I'm gonna flip that. I'm 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: gonna invert it by inverting and flipping them upside down 69 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: with our finishing maneuver, the Force Destroyer. 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: There it is right there, let's talk about it. So 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: Sideshow Wrestling all seats only ten dollars. Bell time is 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: at eight seven o'clock. You can actually meet the stars. 73 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: So for people who don't know, who are new to 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: the Carnies, let's just talk about this. Let's go back 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: to where it all began. How did you get into wrestling? 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: I mean we talked a little bit before we cracked 77 00:03:59,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: the mics. 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: So, like I always like to ask, I asked my 79 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: students and people at meet like, what's your earliest memory 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: of wrestling? Because I'll never forget mine. I was sick 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: at home. I was a very sick kid. I was 82 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: like one of those bubble kids, you know, ten kids 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: underdeveloped lungs. I had what's called a nebulizer. It's like 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: a breathing machine from my lungs and all this other 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: crazy stuff. Just super sick. So as a kid, I 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: didn't get to play a lot or go out a lot, 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: because it's not bedridden close to it a lot until 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: I got over those health complications. I had a babysitter 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: named Miss Kiki, and Miss Kiki was awesome, and she'd 90 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: watch wrestling on Saturday mornings. And the first time I 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: can remember that, like vividly, was a cocobe Weearer and 92 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: Owen Hart and then Coco's doing the Birdman dance with Frankie, 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: and I'm looking at these guys and they got these 94 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 4: bright heights and they're colorful, and there's a bird and 95 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: my babysitters doing the Birdman dance waving her hands. I'm 96 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: like five years old, so I'm up dooing the bird 97 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: dance because it looks fun. And then I watched him 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: wrestle and it was game over. Or you couldn't convince 99 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: me otherwise that superheroes weren't real. You couldn't convince me 100 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: that I couldn't have superpowers of my own. You couldn't 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: change my mind that when bad things happened, some form 102 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: of good would come and find restitution for that, and 103 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: it was game over for a guy that couldn't be 104 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: a football player or a baseball player, t ball player whatever. 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: As a kid, you see that, and sometimes it's cool 106 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 4: because you see that transformation between really nice guys that 107 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: turned into these larger than life things when time demands it. 108 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: And I think the seeing that as a kid so 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: profoundly affected me. It's why I love comic books and 110 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: dragon ball Z and TV shows and music and art, 111 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: all of it, because that, to me, was the realest 112 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: representation of that I could see. I couldn't touch Wolverine 113 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 4: from the X Men in real life, but if I 114 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: paid my money, maybe he was lucky enough to get 115 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: on the front row. I could high five own hard 116 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: on his way to the ring. 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: Right. 118 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: That's how it started for me, and I fought it. 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 4: I always wanted to be a pro wrestler. As a kid. 120 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: I was convinced I'd either be an nex manner or 121 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: a professional wrestler. And his years go by and stuff happens. 122 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: You get older in life, and I was like in 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 4: my early to mid twenties, and I was like, oh, man, 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm doing with my life. I 125 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: don't have a college education at the time, lucky enough 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: to have one now. I was working a dead end 127 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: job at serve tables for years and years and years. 128 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: I had a talk with my girlfriend at the time. 129 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: He was like, Ah, that's a horrible idea. You shouldn't 130 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: do it. And thought to my dad and he's like, Oh, 131 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: you'll never make any money doing that, and we're going 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: to do and my mom too and everybody. And I 133 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: had this like weird thing with the universe where I 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: asked the universe like, hey, give me some kind of 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: sign that I'm not crazy and I want to do this. 136 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: You know, I'm a fire at my computer when I 137 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: go to bed that night, wake up the next morning, 138 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: get on my computer, and I see this website that 139 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: I go to for news and stuff, and it said 140 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: Dutch Mantel was opening to wrestling school. When I was 141 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: a kid, we would get Memphis Wrestling on TV after 142 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: WWTV or Ubert Bryns's TV or whatever, and I'd see 143 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: Dutch and Dutch was like a hero. And later on 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: in life, I remember watching Music City Wrestling. They come 145 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: on at it was like it was a death slot, 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: like three in the morning. Yeah, it was after Memphis 147 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: wasn't airing anymore at the time, and I was like thirteen, 148 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: and Dutch would have his AOL screen name at the 149 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: bottom of a segment to be like, do you have 150 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: any questions about today? Message me dirty Dutch Mantel, which 151 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: his screen name was a Sosio Dutch, which was like 152 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: dirty Dutch and like whatever. And it was part of 153 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: his shtick in Puerto Rico, and so I'd message him 154 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: as a thirteen year old getting he'd be telling me 155 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: like wild stories. And the years later I saw that 156 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: and I was like, well, this is a sign. I 157 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: had a tryout class. It was the most physically destroying, mentally, 158 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: you know, crippling experience I had. I knew I wasn't 159 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: cut out to wrestle. I wanted it so bad, but 160 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: I was in such bad shape and I just had 161 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: no self confidence, you know. And Dutch called me and 162 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: wanted me to take it, and I didn't do it, 163 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: and he called me a couple months later, Hey, you 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: want to wrestle yet? And I'd make excuses on no, no, no, 165 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to do that. Are you sure? You 166 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: know you're horrible? But maybe if you tried for a 167 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: million years, you might be able to do something. Oh no, no, no, no, no. 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: Two more months ago until finally I gave in. And 169 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: it was crazy because he'd asked me to go to 170 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: a class, but instead of just hanging up the phone 171 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: because he didn't get my money, he'd say, hey, you 172 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: know what, I would have booked for this, and we 173 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: just talked. It was so crazy to me. I was 174 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: just happy to have that relationship with someone I grew 175 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: up watching. I trained with him for a long time. 176 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: He had had one student before that named Jeremiah Riggs, 177 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: who'd just got into it tough enough, really started advertising 178 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: his school and then he would teach, but his body 179 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: was so hurt. That is Uh. He would get Josephus 180 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: from the NWA now, but he was Josephus Brody to 181 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 4: us then. For anyone listening to this, also, if you 182 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: watch the Vice documentary that just came out about Bruiser Brody, 183 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: uh that's out there right now. He actually plays Bruiser 184 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: Brody in it. Right, ballistic and identically looked with him 185 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: and it was crazy. And then he went to go 186 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: book Krinka King after I had my first match, and 187 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 4: that led me to Tasha Simone, who's a three time 188 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: NWA Woman's World Champion who's helped people out like Nick, 189 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: myself and Sue Young. You know, she was trained by 190 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: Chris Adams. I mean, just tough, toughest woman I've ever 191 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: known in my life. I call her mom lovingly now. 192 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: But because of all that, I ended up wrestling, and 193 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 4: I met Nick Iggy at a show around town and 194 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: then another one and we got into an angle and 195 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: all this stuff. And I'm very much like a goal 196 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: oriented person when it comes to wrestling. I think that's 197 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 4: what keeps us saying and I think a lot of 198 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: successful wrestlers feel that way. And I told Nick Nick 199 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: was like what some people would call like a top 200 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: bill talent. He was made of venty and all these 201 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: shows and maybe somewhere at the bottom of the middle. 202 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: When I was talking to him, Nick never grew up 203 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: watching the Independence. He didn't even like watching WCW as 204 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: a kid because he felt like he was cheating on 205 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: ww F. 206 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: I think a lot of kids kind of thought that 207 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: growing up. 208 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know, because they teach us brand loyalty 209 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: at that ag. Oh yeah, oker PEPSI, you know. But 210 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 4: I was talking to him, and I was getting booked 211 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 4: out of state before him, you know, and I was like, hey, man, 212 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: you should come on the road with me out of 213 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: this idea. We're having some fun being these two generic 214 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: white guys being a tag team. What if we put 215 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: something behind it? And I had a buddy named Jimmy 216 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: Felcher who actually helped me get my first ideologies or 217 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: thoughts of who were what I was inside of the ring. 218 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: And then we worked it all together until we found 219 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: out what we really were. We were TMOU, which was 220 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 4: a I thought I was a dog, Nick thought he 221 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: was a boy, and man in a man's body, and 222 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: we found some good success, real emphasy. Some would even 223 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: say Chakara influence style characters. And then we did that 224 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: for a while and weren't getting to where we wanted, 225 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 4: so we had to like reevaluate it, and so we did, 226 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: and then we everyone no matter what we did, we 227 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: wanted to be like people like tag teams like the 228 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: Young Bucks or Davey Richards, Eddie Edwards or whatever. By 229 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: the end of the day, that's not who we are, 230 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: no matter how hard we tried, and we realized we 231 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: weren't getting booked into places or matches that that did that. 232 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: So if you get stale, what do you do? Reinvent yourself? 233 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 4: We became the Carney's team. You just unapologetically Southern a Carney. 234 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: A lot of people don't know the wrestling was founded 235 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: in the circus. That's actually, if you look into it, 236 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 4: that is the birthplace of our profession. And then when 237 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: they split off and realized that professional wrestling didn't have 238 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: to live in the circus with a trio of gentlemen 239 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: that are sometimes referred to the gold gold Dust Trio 240 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: and stuff, they legitimized it. And then of course that's 241 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: the roots. Though carnival shows professional wrestling, tough man competitions 242 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: of people, and some people will use corny as a 243 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: derogatory term, just like we do in modern culture, like 244 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: as an insulting colloquialism, right, and it's very much the 245 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: same in wrestling. Oh they're all right, but they're just 246 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: nothing but Southern carnies. Well you're gonna call me that, 247 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: I'm aware. Does a bear of honor badge of honor, 248 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: right yeah, and I'm going to throw this on my 249 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: throat and I'm gonna do every dirty Tennessee tactic we could. 250 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: We're lucky enough to do a We're lucky enough to 251 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: do a camp for a very prominent company that we've 252 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: had a couple of matches for and someone that I 253 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 4: looked up to was actually, I'll just say it right now, 254 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: like I've never really like publicly. 255 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: Said it, but like we did that. 256 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: We did the try out seminar camp with them, and 257 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: Chris fred Niels was the guy and that oh wow, yeah, 258 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: yeah he was. He was like, I get it. I 259 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: understand why your team I owe you. We've all like 260 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 4: we've heard the name and stuff, but when we see 261 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: you're the Cornies, and he like helped give us the 262 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: rough idea of what we would become later in life. 263 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: And it was crazy because once we committed to that. 264 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 4: We were both big fans of American horror story anyway, 265 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: so we were already leading to that with our stuff, 266 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: but when we jumped a full in on the Circus deal, 267 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: it was crazy. Our bookings went up, our merch was 268 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: selling way more. It was easy to digest for people 269 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: to be like, oh, that dude's clearly a sideshow freak, 270 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 4: and that guy's the ring leader, that's the brains, that's 271 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: the bronze, and people were just it was much easier 272 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: to identify as such. And that's right, That's how I 273 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: got into wrestling. I'm very long winded in a diatribe kind. 274 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: Of guy, right, And you know that kind of answers 275 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: the question because a lot of people want to kind 276 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: of know how that Carne gimmicked came about. 277 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: But now you answered that, so let's move on to 278 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: the next one. 279 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: The big main event tomorrow night is the Carneis versus 280 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: Billy Gun and James Storms. What's going through your mind 281 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: when they call you and say, okay, look here's what's happening. 282 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: You're gonna wrestle these two guys. 283 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: So a lot of stuff, right, You always wonder you're 284 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: thinking if this was a couple of years ago, like 285 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have slept for three days already, and you 286 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: know I'd be sweating through I'm watching watching all the 287 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: kinds of tape I can, you know what I mean, 288 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: and just really overthinking it right, Unfortunately, like this is 289 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 4: probably gonna be like disappointing to everybody. At this point, 290 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: it's another day of the office. Dutch and Tasha both 291 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: in separate ways and separate words to tell me and 292 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: my buddy Jimmy Felcher, also, why are you nervous? They're 293 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: in the same locker room you're in. They lace up 294 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: their boots the same that you do. This is professional wrestling. 295 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: It's a sport. Right any given day, an underdog could win, 296 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 4: right and maybe they don't. But the way I see 297 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: it as a professional as this is what I do 298 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: to keep my lights on. They are great, They're they're 299 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: unstoppable forces. I couldn't dream of the life that they've 300 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: lived provided through professional wrestling. I can't think of the 301 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: moments they've experienced in front of crowds bigger than I've 302 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: been in front of. And at the same time, that 303 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: ain't gonna stop me from experiencing it now because I'm 304 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna beat them. I'm not gonna sweat it. 305 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna worry about the Hall of Fame for Billy, 306 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna worry about the legend of the cowboy 307 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: James Storm. I don't care about how many titles or 308 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: accolades because when it rings, the bell rings, Like, I'm 309 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: there to do my job, and my job is to 310 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: be a pro wrestler that wins, right, which is crazy, right, 311 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: I don't. I know that's a weird thing. But if 312 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: you're asking about like how like how I approach it both, 313 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: like it's so weird because wrestling is this weird veil 314 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: of reality. Right. But like at the end of the job, 315 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: if you're paid to contract a house and you've got 316 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: to work with a world famous you know whatever, guys 317 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: say it's a TLC show and you get hired on 318 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: because you're good at walling, you know, doing something with 319 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: the walls, right, But you're in here with this world 320 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: famous dude. Is that makes you nervous? Maybe, But if 321 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: you're there to do your job, you know, the front 322 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: and back of your hand, nothing to sweat. I hope 323 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: they you know, honestly, I hope that they're ready. I 324 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: hope that they're ready to do something special because I am. 325 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: I am at the bottom of my heart my days 326 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: of being cowered or intimidated by people by their own 327 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: success on. I'm here to make a moment. I want 328 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: no doubt in any fans of mind. Whether they watch 329 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: it on TV, YouTube, or in every one of those 330 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: chairs every eight inches, they're gonna remember that Carry and 331 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: Nick stood up nose to nose with them, because that's 332 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: what my character in my life is. I know my 333 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: worth as an awful guy. I make no qualms about 334 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: going to like the lowest common denominator to win matches 335 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: by any means necessary. So Hall of Fame's all nice 336 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: and good until Nick and I grab a folding chair 337 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: when no one's will get smashed on you. 338 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: Once that bell rings, it's off, yeah man, and it's 339 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: gonna be crazy. Tomorrow night at the Victory Center in Morrison, Tennessee, 340 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: Sideshow Wrestling the Super Showdown, one half of the Carnees 341 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: is hanging out in the studio with this Carry Awful. 342 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. Let's say someone wants 343 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: some advice about wanting to get into wrestling. I saw 344 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: on your Instagram that there is a Carnee's Wrestling seminar. 345 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: Tell me about If somebody comes to you and says, hey, 346 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: I really want to be a professional wrestler. 347 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: The first thing I would do is tell them, are 348 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 4: you sure? Because I don't want to be a professional 349 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: wrestler on some of my bad days, which is it's 350 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: true and not true, right because you love it so 351 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 4: much at least. So I have a wrestling school called 352 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: Crux Wrestling. I run it out of Tollahoma, Tennessee, even 353 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: though I live in Middle Tennessee, and we carpool down 354 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: there every week like a little rag bet or what's 355 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: a ragtag group? You know? I have trial days and 356 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: that's that's something I picked up from Dutch wrestling is 357 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: not easy. When Hulk Cogan learned how to wrestle, you know, 358 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: overseas from Baba, he had to get He asked Bob 359 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: Boba teach me to be a professional wrestler, and Bob 360 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: was like, cool, get down on your hands and knees 361 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 4: Gregor Roman style and Hogan's like, okay, we're gonna wrestle. 362 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: Baba dropped a knee on his ankle and shattered it 363 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 4: and says, you want to be a wrestler, come back 364 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: in a year. Hogan did. He waited the year, got 365 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 4: healed up, came back and did it. It used to 366 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: be a pro wrestling. Professional wrestling used to be something 367 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 4: of a You had to prove your your merit and 368 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 4: worth to go into it, and you had to protect 369 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: it right and because of that you had to you 370 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: had to kind of show your grit, you know. And 371 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to say like a vetted by any means, 372 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: but you have to be tested. 373 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 374 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: For me, I make them condition and drill, like if 375 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: you go when you go into an actual wrestling school. 376 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: Like the amount of conditioning and just physical pain that 377 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: goes into it is soul crushing sometimes. But if you 378 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: can persevere through it, then yes you should go and 379 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: you should try it. If it was me, I say, 380 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: do your research. You should contact reputable schools, schools that 381 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: are ran by people that have done something, been something, 382 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: or contribute something. And that doesn't always mean an next 383 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: WWE WW or WWE Impact Ring of honor necessarily. Not 384 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: that I would discredit any of those, because they're all amazing. 385 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: All those guys have made money in this business. But 386 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 4: there's even other schools that are credited with the guys 387 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: that have never stepped foot in there while the school's 388 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: not active anymore. The third member of the Corney's trip, Cassidy, 389 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: was trained by this man named Billy Rock. Billy was 390 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: a great guy, traveled all through the indies when he 391 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 4: had his own like following on that level almost like 392 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: a favorite obscure punk band. 393 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: Right. 394 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 4: He also trained Ruby Ryt, who's you know on ww 395 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: E Raw and Man's Warner. So there are schools out there. 396 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: Just got to make sure that you're going to the 397 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: school and like finding the right one. Go and see 398 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: if they do a try out day. Definitely do that, 399 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: think about it. Make sure that it's something that you 400 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: can dedicate my body finances to, you know, because it's 401 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 4: it's hard. Good education isn't cheap, you know, don't be 402 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: surprised if there's a two three four thousand dollars. 403 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 3: Tuition on it, right, and you get what you pay for. 404 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, I can learn from somebody. It's it's 405 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: weird because it almost contradicts it. Some of the best 406 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: trainers I know have never been on national TV. Right. Also, 407 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: some of the absolute worst trainers I've experienced don't even 408 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: wrestle once a month in their training people, or have 409 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: only wrestled for a year and our training people, and 410 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: that's equally just frustrating. Due diligence will solve it for anyone. 411 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: Do the research and most importantly, if you want to 412 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: be a wrestler. It's better to try and fail that 413 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: tryout class than to sit at home and wonder what if. 414 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: Right, that's that's good stuff right there, carry off a 415 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 2: one half of the Carnes is hanging out with us 416 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: right now. Side Show Wrestling is going down the Super 417 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: Showdown Victory Center and morson Tennessee tomorrow. 418 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: Let's it's kind of jump into some other stuff. I've know. 419 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 2: You've wrestled, you talked about, You've wrestled all over the country. 420 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: What's been the craziest thing you've seen an Evan I 421 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: can tell you one that I saw and it was 422 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: years ago, and it was in the back of a 423 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: discount tobacco and beer store in Madison. There was like 424 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: this little wrestling promotion that would be in there. Chicken 425 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: Hat was there. 426 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: You know, he was missing for a while. 427 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: That's what everybody's been trying to figure out what's been 428 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 2: happening with Chicken Hat at the moment, I swear I 429 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: heard that some For anyone listening that doesn't know who 430 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 2: Chicken Had is, he's like a legend in Nashville wrestling. 431 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: As a fan like he is, you would see him 432 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 2: on raws every every TNA event at the very and it. 433 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: Was the same seat every time every. 434 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: Time, big thick mustache, and he'd have this like almost 435 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 4: like Seawn michaels like dad cowboy. 436 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: Hat, like that Richard Petty hat. 437 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get worked up, you know, in a one day, 438 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: he was just gone. Like even when T and A 439 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: was done, he would still come to the local televised 440 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: show for n WA saw and then it was just gone. 441 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: He was just he disappeared, evaporated. I swear I saw 442 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: something on Facebook on a comment on a thread where 443 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 4: someone was like, I think he went to Florida. 444 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: That's what everybody keeps saying, but no one knows. 445 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: But and somebody was like, he's he came from a 446 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: rich family and and there's crazy stories. So we're sitting 447 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: there at this discounterbackup thing, and we would go every week. 448 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: It was like maybe like on a Wednesday or Thursday night, 449 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: and it was like the ring of the top rope. 450 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 2: You had to like duck because you're hitting the ceiling. 451 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: Something happened and I want to say it was Chase 452 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: Stevens and another guy that now owns a karate studio 453 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: in Gallatin. I think his name is Eric or yes, 454 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: I think he owns a karate studio in Gallaton. Now 455 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: what yeah, baldhead guy yea. So they were a tag team. 456 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: They were feed him with somebody. Something went down and 457 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: the match got completely botched. Chris had a cinder block 458 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: smashed on his nads with a real like real cinder block, 459 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: real sledge. That match then guaranteed, and like Athena was 460 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: a part of the thing. Chicken hat and Athena always 461 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: had issues. Of course Chicken had literally and this is 462 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: like those wooden folding chairs, man, real quick. 463 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: How awesome was Athena? By the way, she was sick, 464 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: like right, you know, like what's her name in w 465 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 4: W was Texas Athena in ber Moon? But Athena to 466 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: me is always her yeah and it. 467 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: And so she was there and he like she would 468 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: always give him shit every week, like she would mess 469 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: with him every week. As the story, he got pissed, 470 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: took that wooden chair and like threw it as hard 471 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: as he could at her. Like security came out, Boogie 472 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: Woogie boy came out, like all these guys are coming out, 473 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: and it was a shit show, like people were going 474 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: crazy and he's screaming and yelling and that was the 475 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: last time I ever went to that event. 476 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: Oh of course, So like I miss sometimes I miss 477 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 4: wild stuff like not I don't ever want any fan endangerment, 478 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: but like I think if you achieved Massis area at 479 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: a wrestling event without having that like the crowd interactions 480 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 4: at it, like the like crowd dangerment, I guess for 481 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: whatever because he got worked up. That's wrestling used to 482 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 4: be that. 483 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like you said. 484 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: Like, oh, I'm never coming back. I don't blame you 485 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 4: for that, but think about all the people who came 486 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: back there, like yo, what's happening next? And rocks, seamiers 487 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: to the Nords, the people throwing cheers, fans throwing jeers, 488 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 4: like that's. 489 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: It was crazy. So let's let's hear something like crazy. 490 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 4: I mean it might be okay, So like this might 491 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 4: take a second, because I've really, I we I've seen 492 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 4: some crazy stuff and uh, without naming a lot of them. 493 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 4: One time, uh, while working in the like the Kentucky 494 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: Anda area, I watched it very well to do Hall 495 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: of Famer now from a couple of years ago, get 496 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: into a fight with a promoter over money. Uh, this big, 497 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: big house event inside of a of a venue I saw. 498 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to give out too many details. Long 499 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: story short short, uh. 500 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: I watched as he's sitting over here, this. 501 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 4: Is going and I got my buddy in and in 502 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: the in the room here with me without naming name, 503 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: but he already knows. He's like sitting here knowing what's 504 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: about that? Like this is like crazy crazy, and like 505 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: we've worked for this company. It's a it's a publicly 506 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: as a well respected company. Like it's a place that 507 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: guys like AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan Cizarro, Chris Hero, you know, 508 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: Eric Cannon, you know, Like it's good. I'm just gonna 509 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: say it, like I like I want you, but I'm 510 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: not going to. 511 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: Anyways. 512 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: It was like a spot that like most accredited like 513 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 4: independent wrestlers while they're doing that grind to the next level, 514 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: go to and you'll learn a lot. I learned tons there, 515 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: tons and tons and tons there. 516 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: Like it's crazy. 517 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: Made some lifelong friends there and stuff too. But watching 518 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 4: this Hall of famery, I've also like grown up watching 519 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: wrestling getting this like crazy five locker rooms getting ready 520 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: getting involved, like and they're like no one out there. 521 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: Is and nobody knows what's going on. 522 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. You get resolved up put 523 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: it that way, It all got resolved. Everything's cool. But 524 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: at the time you were like your knife getting pulled out. 525 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: Cool, you're kind of waiting to see Yeah yeah yeah, man, 526 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: that's crazy stuff. Carry Awful is my guest right now, 527 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: one half of the Carnes that is going down Morrison, 528 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Tennessee at the Victory Center Side Show Wrestling Super Showdown. 529 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: One last question I'd like to let ask wrestlers this, 530 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: if you could call your dream match right now, who would. 531 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: It be and what kind of match would it be? Okay, 532 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 4: the bucket list it breaks down its two different lists 533 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 4: that then going to sublist, right because like everybody wants 534 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: to like Rustle the greatest of all times? Yeah, like 535 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: who wouldn't want Russell, Shawn Michaels or Clear Jericho, you 536 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 4: Stone Cold. 537 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: Rocks or whatever. 538 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 4: And I think that like a lot in takeer too, 539 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: especially take her Mankind and stuff like that. Like so 540 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 4: like I have like fantasy Fantasy side, complete fantasy side, 541 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: and like stuff I applicably use and take from that. 542 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: I would like to see where I'd measure up at 543 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 4: the problem with us is a lot of our dream 544 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: matches get taken because of their stances out of our control. 545 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: Like it was crazy to me, like some of the 546 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: matches we've had lately because like opportunities like that, we 547 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 4: were so used to them just like not happening, right, 548 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: you know, but uh of all time, Like that's that's 549 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: the tie between Like I would love to wrestle the Undertaker, 550 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: not even necessarily out of mania, but I'd wanted to 551 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: be like a blowoff match after like a four No, 552 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: let's go a little three four month feud, five month 553 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: feud with avoiding and ducking, and then finally we have 554 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 4: the match, and I wanted to be supernatural. I want 555 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: him to shoot lightning at me. I want the plods. 556 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 4: I want a coffin to be shot or lit on 557 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: fire with his like an effigy of his logo while 558 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: I slowly try to fight my way out. 559 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: Ker. 560 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want that. I want like crazy, like is 561 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 4: he really dead? Undertaker? You know? 562 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: I take a lot. 563 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: It's like no serior day one that knows me, or 564 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: watches like my work or even how I look like 565 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: I love mcfoley. If I get aspired to be the 566 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 4: professional wrestler, that mcfoley was and the man that he is, 567 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 4: then I would feel accomplished in wrestling. And I just 568 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 4: want to see. I just want to see where I 569 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: line up with him, because there's not to me. Almost 570 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: no one can get a crowd to go from cheering 571 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 4: and crying out of happiness to crying out a complete 572 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: and utter sadness for watching human suffering. 573 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: Right. 574 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: I always talk about, like the moment that I thought 575 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: mcfully became super popular was actually after a match and 576 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 4: beyond the Matt came out and you watched him handcuff 577 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 4: taking chair shots to in front of his crying kids 578 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: and wife. Why got to put a roof over the 579 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 4: baby's heads? That job became a fan so like I 580 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: want that also my guilty pleasure to Jerry. I have 581 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: this irrational love of to Jerry from WWE, his body language, 582 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: the way he carries himself. From my entire career, I 583 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: based stuff off of him. When I was the dog, 584 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: he almost was like a pet for William Regal, where 585 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: like you know when you talk to your dog and 586 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 4: your dog like doesn't understand what you're saying, but it's naughty, 587 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: but he's so like Regal would say something to Jerry, 588 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: and to Jerry would say something back and he's like, oh, 589 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 4: I don't understand you, Jerry, we need to do this, 590 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: And to Jerry would be so hyped, so yeah, and 591 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 4: you could you can know exactly what he was thinking 592 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: through his body and his eyes without I'm saying one word, 593 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 4: the way he'd stalk people in the ring and problem dude, 594 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 4: there's like this like random throwaway match with him and 595 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 4: Taker that's insane. Ye, Like He's got so many just 596 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: like little hidden gems like you ever get. I tell 597 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: I make my students watch these a lot, and my 598 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 4: friends who has for advice If I'm trying to get 599 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: a job like a TV studio or a TV a 600 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 4: Tellfi show, right, watch televised matches, you'd be surprised what 601 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 4: someone that to Jerry or a crash all you can 602 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: get accomplished in like six five four minutes, you know, 603 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: and still feel like I watched a fulfilling story and 604 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: professional wrestling match and learned something new about either his characters, 605 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: the story they're telling, or maybe myself from even watching 606 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: him do it. Uh. Jerry was in Tennessee a little 607 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: while ago. I almost cried because I just I want 608 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: that match so bad, so bad. 609 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: Well, well we're just gonna throw it out there that 610 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: this this match should happen. 611 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna put it out there in 612 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: the universe just to make it happen. 613 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: Oh. Absolutely, Like I don't know, I'm a carneye lie 614 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 4: cheat steal. Let's keep the circus open. If it meant 615 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: that I could get a match with Jerry, I'd step 616 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: on broken glass. At this point, I don't care who 617 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 4: tells me that looks stupid, Well it is stupid, you know, 618 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: be good to me. To Jerry means that much to me. 619 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: So whatever, if anyone's listening here and wants to do that, 620 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: let's go. 621 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: There and we're back Victory Center tomorrow night, Morrison, Tennessee 622 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: Side Show Wrestling, Super Showdown. My guest today one half 623 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: of the Carneies carry offul in the building. Man, thank 624 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: you so much for taking the time out and hanging 625 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: out with us today. 626 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much for having us despite this 627 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: horrible Like why Nashville's traffic was never bad. This population 628 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 4: boom that we're getting killing the traffic. 629 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: It's all the condos. 630 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 4: Oh, it's brutal, it's miserable if you don't mind some 631 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: cheap plugs. 632 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, that's what I was gonna say. Go 633 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: ahead and play everything. You want everybody to follow you 634 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: social media whatnot. 635 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: So anybody who's listening to this or right now, you 636 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: should come out tomorrow and watch me beat Billy Gunn 637 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: and James torm with my tag team partner in the Carneyes, 638 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: Nick Iggy. If you're on social media, please follow me. 639 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: It's very easy at k E R R y awful 640 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: carry offfl across the board, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. I don't 641 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: have a Tumblr, Nora Zanga or a live journal, but 642 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: I'm sure if I did at one point it was 643 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: probably at carry Awful. Also follow the corneys at the 644 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: Carney's TN and for wrestling teas on comback slash the 645 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: Cornies because every T shirt you buy puts money in 646 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 4: keeping our circus up in a float, and I gotta 647 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: keep the lights on there. 648 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: It is carry off of my guest today. Thanks man, 649 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: thank you so much. 650 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: I gotta say so awesome having carry Offful in the studio. 651 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: I got to sit there and talk wrestling with the guy. 652 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: He told me all about the Carneyes, how they all started, 653 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: and what's it like getting to wrestle WWE Hall of 654 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: Famer tomorrow night Billy Gunn Tomorrow nights in Morrison, Tennessee 655 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: at the Victory Center. Tickets only ten dollars. You can 656 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: get all the info you need to know like Sideshow 657 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: Wrestling on Facebook. 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If you've seen on Twitter, you 664 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: have seen that me being stupid, have called out Mark 665 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: Henry on Twitter, Well he left a little video and yeah, 666 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: so Mark Henry in studio Monday. 667 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: Enjoy, have a great weekend. 668 00:31:51,720 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: I will see you guys on Monday.