1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Hey, newts World podcast listeners, this is Rob Smith. I'm 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: part of the Gangridge three sixty podcast network. Newt is 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: out this week working on finishing his new book, Beyond Biden, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Rebuilding the America We Love, so he asked me to 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: take this opportunity to fill in for him. New episodes 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: of my podcasts, Rob Smith Is Problematic, are available Tuesdays 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: and Fridays on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. On this episode of Newts World, 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about critical race theory. It is 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: something that you've probably heard a lot about. You've probably 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: heard the name mentioned a lot, but what is it so? 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Critical Race theory is a hot button issue across the 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: country right now. Is local school boards are challenged by parents, teachers, administrators, 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: and students about what to teach in the classroom. In 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: Loudon County, Virginia, on June twenty second, a school board 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: meeting was cut short to limit public comment. The crowd 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: became unruled as people argued for both sides, and ultimately 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: the school board had the room cleared and Loudon County 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: is not alone and Westlake, Texas members of a school 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: board were voted out of their positions for supporting the 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: idea of having an outside consultant come in to evaluate 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: the need to teach critical race theory in schools. So 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: parents are becoming local activists and speaking out across the 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: nation for more context and to provide an update on 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: exactly what is happening, I'm pleased to welcome my guest, 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Gurdsky. He is founder of the seventeen seventy six 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Project Pack, which is dedicated to electing school board members 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: who oppose critical race theory. And he's got a new 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: book that is out right now. It is called They're 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Not Listening How the Elites created the National Populist Revolution. Ryan, 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me on news World. 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me Rob absolutely so if you don't mind, 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: and if some of news listeners follow me or if 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: they watch any of my stuff. I guess hosted for 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly on another network last week and I had 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: you in and what you did was you explain critical 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: race theory to me in a way that really broke 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: it down and simplified it. So I would like you 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: to explain to us exactly what critical race theory is. 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: So Critical race theory is a political theory and social 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: theory start in the nineteen seventies, and what it does 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: is it reanalyzes the relationship between race and power. And 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: there's three main tenants to critical race theory that all 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: critical race theorists really believe in. One is that non 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: whites suffer through racism on a daily basis, that whites, 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: regardless of their economic status, all benefit from racism. And 47 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: that the institutions created all either reflect some kind of 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: racist value or are created inherently to keep non whites oppressed. 49 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: That's the basic tenets of critical race theory. How it's 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: being applied is a little different in every school district 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: good's being applied in but that's the main points of 52 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: critical race theory. Your goal is to kind of like 53 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: get this out of the school boards. And so I 54 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about some of the more outrageous 55 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: examples of critical race theory that are in schools today. 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, new listeners, I'm a black American. 57 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm very much against critical race theory. There's a lot 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: of viral Twitter videos that are going on right now 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: with a lot of black parents right all across the 60 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: country that are speaking out against this. So I don't 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: even believe that it's a left right issue. I believe 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: that it's an issue about either you think you're a 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: victim or you think that you're not a victim. And 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: the left is very, very insistent on treating Black Americans 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: like victims. So what are some of the more outrageous 66 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: examples of critical race theory in schools today? In Kreupertino, California, 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: and elementary school forced first graders these are first graders, 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: mind you, to decons struck their racial and sexual identities 69 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: and rank themselves according to their quote power and privilege. 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: In Springfield, a middle school forced teachers to locate themselves 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: on an oppression matrix. This was based on the idea 72 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: that straight, white English speaking Christian males are members of 73 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: the oppressor class and must atone for their privileged and 74 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: quote covert white supremacy. In Seattle, the school district told 75 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: white teachers that they are guilty of quote spirit murder 76 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: against black children and must quote bankrupt their privilege and 77 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: acknowledgement of their thieved inheritance. So this is what's going 78 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: on in schools across the country, and this is why 79 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: so many parents are rising up against this. And I 80 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: will say for me, when you talk about the education system, 81 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: when you talk about schools, what is being taught? The 82 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: first question is how does this help teach kids? And 83 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: this obviously does not help teach kids. And a lot 84 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: of these schools, especially public schools, all across the country, 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: there are kids that are performing all below grade level 86 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: in reading, math, the basics of what they should be learning. So, Ryan, 87 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: the sixteen nineteen project is being taught in thirty five 88 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: hundred classrooms across the country. You have spoken out against 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: this as being historically inaccurate. So I want to talk 90 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: what would you talk about the sixteen nineteen project and 91 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: why it is so dangerous to teach children this. So 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: the sixteen nineteen Project was an essay in the New 93 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: York Times magazine a few months ago, and it immediately 94 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: got a lot of fanfare want Uphold Surprise, and was 95 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: started being adopted into the school curriculum program across the 96 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: country in elementary and high schools. And it's basically factual inaccurate. 97 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the most glaring inaccuracies in the 98 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen project was the idea that the American Revolution 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: was fought over slavery, the idea that the British wanted 100 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: to get rid of slavery, the American colonists didn't, and 101 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: so we fought a revolution over it. That just didn't happen. 102 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: There's no facts to back that up. It's completely inaccurate. 103 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: The British did get rid of slavery before America, but 104 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: it was decades after the revolution, and it was a 105 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: few decades before us. It was further from our revolution 106 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: than it was from our Civil War. It's just a 107 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: complete inaccuracy. Another one is that capitalism was created specifically 108 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: to promote slavery and dentured servitude. That's also factor in accurate. Actually, 109 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: slaves overall performed at a lower rate than free black 110 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: and white Americans. They oftentimes produced at a fast rate 111 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: because they had the incentive that they were getting paid. 112 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: It's just full of inaccuracies, and it's not just from me. 113 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Major historians have also last shout saying that it's just 114 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: not true most of the sixteen nineteen project and it 115 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: is just a tentacle critical race theory. There's just no 116 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: reason to teach it because it's filled with lies, and 117 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: it's part of critical race theory. And you could read 118 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: this in Richard Delgado's book, which is an introduction to 119 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: critical race theory. Critical race theory is inherently activism. It 120 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: is an activist organization to try and change the way 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: political power is structured. Is not done to create a real, 122 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: more accurate telling of history. Two of the most major 123 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: flaws in the essay series. That's a really good point. 124 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: There is this sort of rush by the left to 125 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: say that critical race theory is the study of black history, 126 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: African American history, it's just American history itself. And there's 127 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: a rush to say that when conservatives and certain people 128 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: are coming up with these sort of bands on critical 129 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: race theory in the classroom, I want to read you something. 130 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: So this is from the American Bar Associations, a lesson 131 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: on critical race theory, and this is what they say 132 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: about CRT. CRT is not a diversity and inclusion training, 133 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: but a practice of interrogating the role of race and 134 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: racism in society that emerged in the legal academy and 135 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: spread to other fields of scholarship. Crenshaw, who coined the 136 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: term CRT, notes that CRT is not a noun but 137 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: a verb, and this is important. It cannot be confined 138 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: to a static and narrow definition, but is considered to 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: be an evolving and malleable practice. And that is very 140 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: interesting to me, because when I see the left's freak 141 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: out over this, and the left's freak out over the 142 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: fact that people are actually starting to stand up and 143 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: say this is not right black people, white people, etc. 144 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: They always say, well, that's not real CRT. And they 145 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: talk about Robin DeAngelo, who authored a book called White Fragility, 146 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: and Ebra mc kinney who wrote this book How to 147 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: be an Anti Racist. And so this doesn't make any sense. 148 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: And so I want to ask you, Ryan, why do 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: people think that this is something that is positive and 150 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: necessary to be taught in schools. Well, I think that 151 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: it's to restructure and reorganize the way our system marks. 152 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: At the heart of critical race theory is the idea 153 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: that Western civilization, people who came from Europe, all of 154 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: those main ideas that they brought with them in the 155 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: post Enlightenment Europe are wrong. They explicitly sit there and 156 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: talk about and you could read this one again in 157 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Richard Delgado's book at Introduction, that the idea of judicial 158 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: blindness is wrong the idea of capitalism is wrong. They 159 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: don't believe in the institutions the way they are, and 160 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: the way to end these institutions, as Marx try to 161 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: do many many times, was through class consciousness. Now it's 162 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: being done through race consciousness. This is simple Marxism. It's 163 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: funny because they don't talk about Marks specifically, but they 164 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: talk about people who were clearly influenced by Marx, from 165 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Puco to a Grimisi, and using these neo Marxists or 166 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: these post Marxists who all got their influence from Marx 167 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: is a way for them to have Marxism without mars 168 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: It's very weird, weird thing. It's the way that establishment 169 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: Republicans always want to have Trumpism without Trump, which is 170 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: basically rural, white working class voters, without having to actually 171 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: deal with any of the promise with Trump made, or 172 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: his personality or his tweets. This is what they want 173 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: to do with Marx and with critical race theory. They 174 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: want to have CRT, they want to have Marks, they 175 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: want to have their revolution they've always wanted, but they 176 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: don't actually want to have the negative attachment with both 177 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: Marx and CRT. And I think people are becoming much 178 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: smarter to the idea that the foundation of everything they 179 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: teach is based on critical race theory. So it's like 180 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: sitting there and saying you've given up soda and now 181 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: you're drinking orange crush. Doesn't make it a fruit because 182 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: you have the word orange in it. But that is 183 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: exactly what they're trying to sit there and sell people 184 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: on it. This is not a critical race theory, so 185 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: you don't understand it. Well, it is foundationally critical race theory. 186 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. When we come back, I 187 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about how critical race theory 188 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: is different from civil rights movement in the teachings of 189 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Jr. We're going to hit that up 190 00:10:42,160 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: right up to the break. Well them back to Newts World. 191 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: I am your guest host, Rob Smith, host of the 192 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: Rob Smith's Problematic Podcast. If you like what you're hearing today, 193 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: you can download that at iHeart Radio, podcast, Apple Podcasts, 194 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. So we are talking 195 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: about critical race theory and I'm breaking this down with 196 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Gerdusky, who founded the seventeen seventy six Project Pack, 197 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: which is dedicated to electing school board members who oppose 198 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: critical race theory. Now, before the break, we said that 199 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: we were going to talk about how critical race theory 200 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: is different from the Civil Rights movement and different from 201 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: the teachings of Martin Luther King Junior, and I should 202 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: say very different from just the teaching of Black American history, 203 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: African American history. Right, So, critical race theory or anti 204 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: racism should not be confused with the Civil rights movement, 205 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: MKA Junior, any form of tolerance, any sort of African 206 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: American history. Okay. Critical race theorists believe that we need 207 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: to undo the cornerstones of American society, including classical liberalism, 208 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: legal reasoning, and capitalism, in order to promote their version 209 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: of cultural Marxism based on race rather than class. And 210 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Ryan talked about this beautifully in the last segment. They 211 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: want Marxism without marks, and from my perspective, they are 212 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: preying on what I like to call the identitarians. There 213 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: are the identitarians of the left who are completely utterly 214 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: obsessed with race at every turn, or any other identities. 215 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: They are obsessed with their blackness, they are obsessed with 216 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: being Latino, They're obsessed with being immigrants, they obsessed with 217 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: being gay, anything that they can do to create an 218 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: entire mind frame and view of the world based on identity. 219 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: These are what I call the identitarians. These are the 220 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: people that are being manipulated by the Marxists of the 221 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: left right now. So these CRT people believe that every 222 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: aspect and every fabric of American society is based on race. 223 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: Every factor of inequality is socially constructed exclusively based on 224 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: the topic of race. So all differences between the races 225 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: were created with the sole purpose of disadvantaging non white people. Ryan, 226 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: am I getting this right? Yes, that's exactly what it is. 227 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: And that's why critical race theory isn't just about trying 228 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: to change us history, but abolishing things like advanced math 229 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and science, which overwhelmingly favors Asian Americans. I mean, they 230 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: just excel on them. So because we are not exactly 231 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: proportional the population, then therefore we have to abolish anything 232 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: that creates inequalities or what Some schools have even proposed 233 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: the idea of accepting wrong answers as being correct. I mean, 234 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: it is literally insane what they want to do in 235 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: the name of equity, which is different than equality, and 236 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: that is the craziest thing to me. And you know 237 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: you'll hear a lot of black conservatives talk about this. 238 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: This is the soft bigotry of low expectations. So I'm 239 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: infuriated when I read this stuff where they're talking about 240 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: like math is racist and reading is racist, and there's 241 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: even somebody said being on time as a white supremacist construct. 242 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: So this is all completely insane, right, And I've referenced 243 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: this a lot over the past couple of weeks when 244 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: talking about this stuff. I was at an event for 245 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: a Turning Point USA a couple of weeks ago Canadas. 246 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: Owens was our keynote speaker, and she brilliantly drew the 247 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: direct line between this stuff and the schools and the 248 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: left's desire to turn out nothing but angry little victims 249 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: out of these schools. They want them to get angry 250 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: in elementary school, so they can be angry in middle school, 251 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: so they can be angry in high school, so they 252 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: can go get indoctrinated in undergrad and then they can 253 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: turn out to be angry Democrat voters. Right. And also 254 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: the fact that they want them to believe certain things 255 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: as fact, the idea what Critical Race series doing a 256 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: lot of our schools is they're instructing teachers and professors 257 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: to accept the ideas that things like systemic racism is 258 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: a fact. It's not a question. It's like the earth 259 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: is round and you know there's three hundred and sixty 260 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: five days a year. These are facts, and so systemic racism. 261 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: So they learn an early age, and teachers learn through 262 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: things like equity training or anti racism training, how to 263 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: incorporate these the ideas as the go to facts, and 264 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: the world then is built around these facts. Yeah, I 265 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: feel like that's dangerous and that's scary because, look, I'll 266 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: speak from the perspective of somebody that used to be 267 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: on the left and I was very malleable to all 268 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: of this messaging. And when you create a generation and 269 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: when we're talking about millions of black people, Latino people, Asians, etc. 270 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: In this country, when you just push the idea that 271 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: the world is fundamatically racist and America is fundamentally racist 272 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: as a fact, and you put this into people's minds, 273 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: it does something with your mental state. Literally, you will 274 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: walk through the world think that every perceived slight, everything 275 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: that you don't get, everything is based on racism. And 276 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: I think that that for me, is something that's fundamentally 277 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: damaging to America and to Americans of all colors, because 278 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: either you have the black people that are taking this 279 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: message on hook client and sinker and they're becoming angry, 280 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: and then you kind of have these sort of weak 281 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: white liberals who always running around apologizing for being white 282 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: because they actually feel in their bones that they are 283 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: smarter and superior to black people, so that they need 284 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: to always apologize and they need to say, well, the 285 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: world is so racist and this is the reason why 286 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: you can't succeed, and then they will lead to the 287 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: things that you said before, like saying wrong answers are right. 288 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: So this stuff is ridiculous. And I want to talk 289 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: a little bit about You did an article for Media. 290 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: You wrote that abolishing critical race theory in public schools 291 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: is a winning issue for conservatives in the culture wars. 292 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: So this culture war between conservatives and liberals, what do 293 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: you think this culture war is over? I think the 294 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: culture war for white liberals is basically how to energize 295 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: and to aggravate non whites, especially blacks and Latinos, into 296 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: believing that it's not enough to elect a Democrat. We 297 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: had our first black president. Inequalities didn't get better. I 298 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: guess something much different under Trump, where quality these were 299 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: actually getting slightly better for working class people. But we've 300 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: had many different cycles of electing leftists, of electing right wingers, 301 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: of electing now a black president, of electing a black 302 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: female vice president, and there is true societal issues and 303 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: true societal problems, and the mass diversity of America. The 304 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: changing demography of America is not making a lot of 305 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: those problems go away. And I think that the cell 306 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: that people have had for thirty or forty years is, oh, 307 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: wait till whites are no longer, the majority of things 308 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: will get better. And they haven't. And so now the 309 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: problem isn't the party in office or the president office, 310 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: or the demography of the country. Now, it's the country itself. Now, 311 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: it's the institutions itself. Now everything needs to be broken 312 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: down and change and rebuilt in order for them to 313 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: kind of get their way, Especially since the George Floyd Riots, 314 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: the number one institution on their target is the police, 315 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: and in everyone left wing cities where the police have 316 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: been marginalized and have been really deconstructed in many ways, 317 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: you've seen the number of young black men, especially the 318 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: bodybags build. You've seen more of their deaths now than 319 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: you did in the previous ten years when it was 320 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: supposedly even more racist or even supposedly even more anti black, 321 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: or more pro white supremacy or more pro whiteness, or 322 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: whatever terminology you want to adopt to it. At the 323 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: end of the day, that's what they're trying to sit 324 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: there and sell is that, yes, you've given us all 325 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: these election victories, you've given us all these liberal judges, 326 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: you've given us all these things, and yes, it's not 327 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: working out for you. But the real problem is because 328 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: we just weren't looking far enough. Now we need to 329 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: deconstruct the entire liberal system. Small leberalism. That's very interesting 330 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: that you bring that up, because I've noticed there is 331 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: this push right that we've seen coming from the leapon. 332 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: It's a hardcore push, and so this push is to 333 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: deny the gains and the new people that have sort 334 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: of like come around to being conservative and Republicans, right, 335 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: people like myself, Black American, lots of black people. That's 336 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: of let's people. The gay vote I guess went up 337 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: to like thirty percent or something like that in the 338 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: past election. So things are switching right now. There's a 339 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: shift that is going on, and there is a fundamental 340 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: need among people on the left to sort of deny 341 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: the existence of that shift and to frame every single 342 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: thing around race. And I think that that is some 343 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: of the root of what it's all about. If you 344 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: look at like this, look in the last thirty years, 345 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: I mean since you and I were young children, the 346 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: number of black men incarcerated is down significantly. Black women 347 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: born in the same economic class actually outperformed now white women. 348 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: You have Black female graduation rates surpassing most other races 349 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: except where I believe Asian and white women. You have 350 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: black homeownership up. Life is getting a lot better. And 351 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: you need to make people angry. You need to keep 352 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: people in a frenzy. And this is how they're keeping 353 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: people angry and in a frenzy. There was once they'd 354 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: done at Zach Goldberg, who was I think from the 355 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: University of a Georgia, pushed out that found that black 356 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: people now believe that country is more unequal than they 357 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: did in nineteen sixty three. It's just not true. But 358 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: perception becomes reality because this is what the media has 359 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: pushed constantly and now they're trying to get it in 360 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: children's brains from an early age. That way they never 361 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: grow up questioning it. Yeah, that is really interesting and 362 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: it's a good segue until the next part of our conversation, 363 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: because I want to talk about the media's role in this, 364 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: and I think that for me, like I said before, 365 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: you know when I was a liberal before, and I 366 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: make it a point of mind. I feel like, if 367 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing this, I need to be reading and I 368 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: need to also be exposed myself to media that comes 369 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: from the left and the right correct, because I want 370 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: to see what the conversation is and I want to 371 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: see what they are talking about. And when I watch 372 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: this stuff, it is nothing but race, race, race, race, race, 373 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Their entire lives are about being oppressed, 374 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: and it's about the suppression that they have to sell 375 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: to young black people in this country. So you will 376 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: have people and it drives me nuts. Hollywood actors, actresses, 377 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 1: the most wealthy, famous, powerful and privileged people in the 378 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: entire world. Look at Megan Marco, look at Michelle Obama. 379 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, these are the most privileged and powerful Black 380 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: people in the entire world, and they will talk about 381 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: how a pressed they are. This is insane, but so 382 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: you recently wrote an article that was called the media 383 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: is gaslighting America on critical race theory. These are a 384 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: couple of quotes from MSNBC and CNN. O favorite. This 385 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: is Zerlina Maxwell and MSNBC. Let's make it completely clear 386 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: at the top of this interview that critical race theory 387 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: is not taught before law school. That's a lie, Natasha Alfred, 388 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: who is an analyst on CNN. These are both black women. 389 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: Juneteenth is elevated at the time when the truth is 390 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: under attack in America. Lies about the so called dangers 391 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: of critical race theory have spurred legislation against teaching what 392 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: is normally taught in law schools. The sixteen nineteen project 393 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: has grown up. Politicians throw tantrums worse than the children 394 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: who they don't want reading it. What is the media's 395 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: goal in all of this? I wrote this in my 396 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: book They're not listening. The number of times the media 397 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: used terms like whiteness, and use, intersectionality and use these 398 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: hyperbolic terms exploded around the year two thousand and twelve 399 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: two thou and eleven, right before Ferguson. What is their goal? 400 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: Their goal is to introduce it as regular language for 401 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: people so that they understand it, they believe it, and 402 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: they can sit there and use that as a general practition. 403 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: You know, there was a time not too long ago 404 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: in this country where it was fashionable to be liberal. 405 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Now it's not fashionable to be liberal. It's fashionable to 406 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: be a progressive, and not just a progressive, but to 407 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: be a woke progressive. And the way that they're operating, 408 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: it's just that they're unincorporate as many of these phrases 409 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: and as many of these beliefs so that they understand 410 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: that not only Jesus is what you're supposed to believe, 411 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: But if you don't believe it, and you want to 412 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: be in the intelligence class and the media in Hollywood 413 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: or in academia, if you don't believe it, you'll be 414 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: ostracized for it. It's kind of like throws back to 415 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: the friend or Revolution with eventually Rogue Pierre ends up 416 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: getting the guillotine and a lot of these progressives who 417 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: sat there and were activists, the Amy Schumers of the world, 418 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: end up getting eaten by their own It's kind of 419 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: it's a little sick to actually watch, yeah, and we've 420 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: been seeing this more and more. It's really sad to watch. 421 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: And it's also sad to watch people that I know 422 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: are good people. I have friends that are on the left, 423 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: the friends that I lost when I became a conservative. 424 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: That was their decision. It's whatever. But I've managed to 425 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: keep a couple of friends in the left. And the 426 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: toughest thing to watch about the ways in which they 427 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: comport themselves and they conduct themselves when they're having conversation, 428 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: is that there's so much that they are afraid to say. 429 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: They are so much that they are just terrified to 430 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 1: say because if they speak up, and if they say this, 431 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: then they are afraid that they will get ostracized, just 432 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: like those mean conservatives, just like those mean Republicans. So 433 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: people like me when I get exommunicated from a fing group, 434 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: and there are people that literally just will not even 435 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: look at me when I walk down the street in 436 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: New York City, people that I'd known for years, and 437 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: they sort of in this fear that that will happen 438 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: to them. And this is that fear that comes from 439 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 1: the elites that push this stuff in the media. This 440 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: is the fear that comes from the progressives on the 441 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: left to put a button on this media thing before 442 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: we talk about, you know, how parents can actually get involved. 443 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: I have to say, and have to be honest and 444 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: have to be a little bit optimistic. I see the 445 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: tides slowly starting to change about this stuff. I see 446 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: people starting to become tired of being told what they 447 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: can or cannot say, what they can or cannot think. 448 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: The very far left stuff I see is I don't know, 449 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: I hope it's kind of going out of vogue. But anyway, 450 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: we know that it is all in the public school system. 451 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: We know that they are trying to get the tentacles 452 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: of critical his theory. As you've said, in every public 453 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: school system in the country. There is a way that 454 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: parents can get involved. And I want to have you 455 00:24:50,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: talk about that and your pack right after the break. So, 456 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: as we've seen during all of these viral videos that 457 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: have been you know, all across the internet, all of 458 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: the stuff, parents and regular citizens and regular people of 459 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 1: all races are standing up against critical race theory. They 460 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: are going to school boards, in some cases they are 461 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: flipping school boards. They are getting involved because they realize 462 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: how dangerous this is. So there are other successes like 463 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: the Florida Board of Education approving new academic standards opposing 464 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: critical race theory, and Texas Governor Greg Abbott banning critical 465 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: race theory. Do you think that this fight against critical 466 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: race theory is at the national state level. Do you 467 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: think that this is something that should be controlled at 468 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: the national or state level, or do you think that 469 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: it should be focused on the local level with taken 470 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: into these school boards. I think at which one should 471 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: be banned. At the state level, I think that what 472 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: the state governors and state legislators are doing is very important. However, 473 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: it is not enough because a problem with a lot 474 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: of these laws is they have no punishment. So the 475 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: new lawsuit in Texas, there's one in Oklahoma and one 476 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: in Idaho. I think flors was an executive order, but 477 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: these laws don't have any punishment. So if a teacher 478 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: continues to teach critical race theory or intersectionality, their punishment 479 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: is nothing. It's like not getting out tickets for jaywalking 480 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: or littering. If that's the rule, then people just will 481 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: continue to do it. I think you need to take 482 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: over the school boards, and there needs to be more 483 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: of an aggressive push by the governors as far as 484 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: reforming education. I think that one education is, I give 485 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: liberals credit in this comment, education is to Western focus. 486 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: We should be learning more about what happened to other 487 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: cultures and other countries than not just Europe and talking 488 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the world, because it's important to also 489 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: know how horrible many of these places were before Americans 490 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: got there. Like I reference this point all the time 491 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: Media matters wrote me up. But before the white man 492 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: got to America, it wasn't the Disney's version of Pocahuntas 493 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: where everyone was having a woodstock festival singing to trees. 494 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: It was a very brutal place. Parts of Africa and 495 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Asia and the Indian subcontinent and Aboriginal Australia, and yes, Europe. 496 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean we learned about the horrors of Europe and 497 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: the horrors of the Western civilization with slavery, the which Trials, 498 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: the Black Plague, the Inquisition. We've learned about all those things. 499 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: We don't learn about what happens on other contents and 500 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: other cultures that are similar. Because what happens is what 501 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: teachers try to prescribe to children, is that all of 502 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: these terrible things, well, these are Western problems, These are 503 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: American problems. These are liberal problems, when in fact they 504 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: are problems that are symptomatic in the human race. Humans 505 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: as a whole can be pretty horrible to one another 506 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: throughout history. That's the lesson of history, and I think 507 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: that also we need to create better narratives. It's not 508 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: just about learning about certain dates and names in time. 509 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: It's about learning the trajectory of who we are as 510 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: a people and who we are as a country, and 511 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: that is very, very important. We are not made, as 512 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: current North Carolinian Lieutenant Governor Mark Robins said, we are 513 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: not made from weak stock, and I think that that 514 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: is something they need to grapple with. So that's why 515 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: I created the seventeen seventy six Project Pack is to 516 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: take over school boards to win school board elections. School 517 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: Boards have an enormous amount of power, from everything from 518 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: hiring superintendence to buying textbooks or creating budgets, to pushing 519 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: back against teachers who make people read critical race theory 520 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: influenced books like White Fragility. All of those things are incredibly, 521 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: incredibly important, and that's why I hope to continue what 522 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: we've already started seeing, which is conservative and conservative groups 523 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: taking over school board elections across the country. This is fantastic. 524 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: So are the teachers unions? Are the schools upset about 525 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: the creation of your pack? And what have their reactions 526 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: been to you into this? Yeah? The New York Times 527 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: wrote up this entire piece that included my pack, where 528 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: historians said about the creation of my pack was like 529 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: a grenade being thrown. And I'm going to start instituting 530 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: politically oriented visions of history. What conservatives need to understand 531 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: very explicitly that I don't think some of them do. 532 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: Public schools are always been political. They are part of 533 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: the state, They are state financed, they are state sponsored. 534 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: What we teach in school, we can't obviously teach everything 535 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: that ever happened in school, so we pick and choose, 536 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: and those are oftentimes political choices. I want to choose 537 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: to sit there and make sure that children know the 538 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: greatness of our country, the greatness of our founding, and 539 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: in a country that is increasingly more and more diverse, 540 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: we need a national narrative that if you are a child, 541 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: regardless of your race, a man like George Washington is 542 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: your founding father, and also your heritage includes that of 543 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas, includes that of Abraham Lincoln, includes that of 544 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: great people of many different races and many different times, 545 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 1: and they are all our united founding and it does. 546 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: And yes they look different than us. You know, I 547 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: am of Italian and Polish ancestry. I don't have any 548 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: that share with the Founding Fathers. Yet even though they 549 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: don't have my skin tone exactly, they are still my 550 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: founding fathers. I think that unified form of bringing people 551 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: together around our common nationality is essentially important, and that's 552 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: what I would like to emphasize, you know, It's really important. 553 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, I feel like this 554 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: is why there's so many people on the left that 555 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: are so against that. The left and Democrats and all 556 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: that they want to slice and dice Americans into smaller 557 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: and smaller and smaller groups. They want to CiCe and 558 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: diise them by religion, by race, by sexual orientation, by whatever. 559 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: And they think that if they slice and diise these 560 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: people into enough small groups, then this is a quote 561 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: unquote coalition that's good enough for them to win elections. 562 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: But they are doing this by sort of destroying the 563 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: idea of America then sort of trying to make these 564 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: people hate the idea of America and all that stuff, 565 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: and that is very bad for our country. I don't 566 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: believe that conservatives or Republicans or anybody sits around and 567 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: that they are just terrified that America is starting to 568 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: become more black and more brown and more to verse 569 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. I think that people are afraid that we 570 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: are losing a sense of civic pride and patriotism in 571 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: our country, because if you do not have a sense 572 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: of togetherness in a country, that country will fall. And 573 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: if you ask me, they're trying to push this country 574 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: into socialism and communism, which is exactly what this is 575 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: all about. So I want to ask you, if somebody 576 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: wants to run for school board opposing critical race theory, 577 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: how can they get involved with your pack. Go on 578 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six projectpac dot com pacpac dot com and 579 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: sign up and you can get our newsletter which will 580 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: be coming out of the next few weeks about critical 581 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: race theory and schools. You can email us tell us 582 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: where you're running for school board and when you could 583 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: donate to us. We have over seventeen hundred donors. We 584 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: raise over one hundred and forty thousand dollars and under 585 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: a month and get involved. And I'm trying to keep up. 586 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: It's really grassroot production. It's basically me and my dog 587 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: on my bed every day trying to answer emails and 588 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: keep up with everything. Will be announcing very quickly the 589 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: ten states we're looking at for this twenty twenty one 590 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: election in November and hopefully by September, obulisting some endorsements 591 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: in which candidates I plan on supporting across the country. 592 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: And it's very very exciting. This is very exciting. And 593 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: what I love about talking to your number one, Ryan 594 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: is one of the smartest people that is in this 595 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: entire field. There's a lot of people that run their 596 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: mouths about a lot of things that they really don't 597 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: know about. Ryan. It's not one of these people. Highly 598 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: intelligent and I appreciate the fact that you are actually 599 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: out there in the fight doing something about it. Very 600 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: nice of you. So I want to ask you one 601 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: final question. Where do you think this goes? If we 602 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: continue to let CRT take a hold of the school 603 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: system and we let the left win on this, what happens? 604 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: What are the consequences for this country? What are the 605 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: consequences for schools. What are the consequences for our sense 606 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: of American unity. I really think that it's over. I mean, 607 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: I genuinely do believe that it's over. And we saw 608 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: this with Joe Biden's administration where they're trying to give 609 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: non white farmers more money than white farmers for funding. 610 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: And I think it will go just beyond the basic race, 611 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: and I think it will go after capitalism. I think 612 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: it will go after science and math. What happens when 613 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: we sit there and say no, children who can barely 614 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: do math can sit there and go become a medical doctor. Yes, 615 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: that sounds fictitious, but we really don't know where this goes. 616 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: I think the one thing I'm very hopeful for is that, look, 617 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: school boards are very cheap to run in. These are 618 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: not multimillion dollar races, and there's just a few thousand dollars. 619 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: And luckily for US, people very rarely vote on school boards. 620 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: If I could just energize ten percent of the conservative 621 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: base to get involved in vote, we can flip school 622 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: boards in some of the bluest areas. Just last month 623 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: in Lower Manhattan, in Midtown Manhattan, Asian and white parents 624 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: who are quote unquote moderate but by left wing standards. 625 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: They're conservative, but they're moderates. They just don't like critical 626 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: race theory. They unseated seven of eight school board members 627 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: in midtown Manhattan. I think this is a cable anywhere. 628 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: And when you have people of diverse background insteading and 629 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: saying this is crazy, I really think there's a big 630 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: coalition of people and we can start taking this over. 631 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: And then the next step is how do we rebrand 632 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: education because I don't want it to just go back 633 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: to the way it was. So we didn't really love 634 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: the way it was beforehand, but I want to be 635 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: able to sit there and incorporate a level of patriotism 636 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: and understanding the basic facts of this country to children 637 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: so they grow up really loving it, regardless of their economic, racial, religious, 638 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: or immigrant background. I think that that is the only 639 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: way we move forward as a country. I think you're 640 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: absolutely right, and you know this country in America and 641 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: all of this stuff is worth fighting for. And thank 642 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: you for bringing your intelligence and your drive and all 643 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: of that stuff into this fight. Ryan, thank you for 644 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: joining me today. We'll have a link to the seventeen 645 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: seventy six Project pack and your new book. They're not 646 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: listening how the elites created the national populous Revolution on 647 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: our show page at newtsworld dot com. Thank you so much, 648 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to newts World. 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