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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show,

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. We hope all of you

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Speaker 1: are having a fantastic time wherever you may be as

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Speaker 1: you get ready for the weekend. I am out in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I have to say it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: different of an experience to wake up with young kids

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Speaker 1: here before. The kids think Vegas is pretty awesome. They're

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Speaker 1: running around. Appreciate iHeart Studios hosting me out here. And

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Speaker 1: Buck obviously Nevada big time battleground state for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. And this morning I am up

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Speaker 1: and I am reading, and I can't stop thinking about

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Speaker 1: what exactly might happen in twenty twenty four. Because we're

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Speaker 1: almost at the end of January. Joe Biden is addressing

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Speaker 1: Congress with the State of the Union, I believe on

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Speaker 1: February seventh, Buck, and almost as soon as that address

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Speaker 1: is done, I think we start to hit the spring

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Speaker 1: announcement season and New Hampshire is in an interesting spot

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Speaker 1: because New Hampshire has historically been the first primary state,

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Speaker 1: but maybe because he's trying to head off a primary challenger.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden now is trying to elevate South Carolina, which

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Speaker 1: is his bastion basically right his reliable James Clyburne infused

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Speaker 1: win and New Hampshire is uncertain about how exactly they're

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Speaker 1: going to factor in. Iowa was uncertain about how they're

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Speaker 1: going to factor in. And really it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: very long until campaigning begins in earnest all over the

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Speaker 1: place in some of these early states, and there are

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Speaker 1: numbers out and I wanted to hit you with some

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Speaker 1: of these numbers, Buck, because first of all, the Democrat primary,

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Speaker 1: Mayor Pete in New Hampshire is beating Joe Biden. Does

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Speaker 1: that surprise you at all that if there were a

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Speaker 1: primary right now, Mayor Pete, who is maybe the worst

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Speaker 1: transportation secretary of all time? According to this University of

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire poll, Mayor Pete's at twenty three percent, Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's at eighteen, tied with Elizabeth Warren. Does it surprise

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Speaker 1: you that New Hampshire are friends in the granite state

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire rights would be liking Mayor Pete more than

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Speaker 1: they do Joe Biden. Not really, you know, you look,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire is not a highly diverse electorate when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Democrats are going to be in this primary, right,

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Speaker 1: or who would be voting in a primary? So I

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Speaker 1: think that this is a It's always interesting, it's always

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Speaker 1: instructive to go back lay and look at who was ahead,

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Speaker 1: just any election. You know, who is ahead in Iowa

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Speaker 1: and how to New Hampshire go? Would you find out?

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Speaker 1: Is crazy? Stuff happened the Remember Howard d before he

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Speaker 1: did it, Yeah, that was actually pretty good impersonation. And

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Speaker 1: then he fell out. He fell off. He was the

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Speaker 1: Democrat front runner before the shriek, so you can pick

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Speaker 1: any individuals. Came in fifth in New Hampshire and everybody

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Speaker 1: said he's basically dead, and then he went down to

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Speaker 1: South Carolina won the primary and it was over right,

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Speaker 1: So I mean it is kind of fascinating. Yeah, New

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Speaker 1: and Mayor Pete being the being their choice. A lot

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Speaker 1: who has no shot in the actual general Remember John

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Speaker 1: John Edwards. I mean, you go back, you look at

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Speaker 1: two things that this polling. I saw the Axios piece,

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Speaker 1: the Emerson College survey, Harvard Caps Harris poll that they

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Speaker 1: just did all this together. Actually, lets just put this

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Speaker 1: Morning Console poles. There are a bunch of poles that

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Speaker 1: are out. The Morning Console poll has Trump expanding his

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Speaker 1: in a hypothetical primary field. But Biden leads Trump according

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Speaker 1: to the Morning Console forty four percent forty one percent. Now,

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Speaker 1: it is super early, we all know that. But one

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Speaker 1: But I do think that what it shows us is

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Speaker 1: the sentiment change around Trump, specifically that the whole home

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Speaker 1: are trying to tell us buck, Hey, Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 1: the future of the Democrat Party. Remember when Joe came in,

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Speaker 1: after two years of being the heir apparent in this

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Speaker 1: heisman to Kamala Harris two percent. So it's important though

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Speaker 1: to look at how the Democrats. You know, we're sitting

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Speaker 1: here talking about New Hampshire. The Democrats have changed the

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Speaker 1: primary calendar for the twenty twenty four election to This

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Speaker 1: is actually getting complicated, Buck, because some of these states

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Speaker 1: are not sure that they can get through, like they're

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Speaker 1: trying to elevate George. They've proposed this, but Biden has it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Yes, Biden has recommended this, but

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Speaker 1: think when the print, when the sitting president and a

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Speaker 1: lot of Democrat Party insiders have all endorsed this change,

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Speaker 1: you would think it could happen. So they want to

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Speaker 1: have South Carolina go first with its primary on February

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Speaker 1: that you would have Nevada, and then New Hampshire. Georgians

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Speaker 1: we're also used to the Iowa. You know, every every

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Speaker 1: who won. Remember it couldn't figure out of Ted Cruise

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Speaker 1: because South Carolina is his Ballywick, his you know, his

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Speaker 1: the hesitancy when you have a Democrat president and and

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Speaker 1: perspective of the narrative change the Democrats won't, which is

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Speaker 1: we want a more diverse electorate earlier on to help

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Speaker 1: pick our help pick the candidate. It obviously would also

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Speaker 1: really benefit Joe Biden, what you know, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would benefit somebody in his position. So

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Speaker 1: Or you know what I mean, like Pete Buddha Judge

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Speaker 1: in that calendar would I'm talking about now even just

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Speaker 1: you know, to have South Carolina go first. No, I

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Speaker 1: think you're one hundred percent right. And what's also interesting

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Speaker 1: if you think about that is remember it was Barack

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire Democrats are are too white, but it was

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Speaker 1: Now I wanted to hit you. You were just saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: forget this. A lesson we should always remember about Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: and it was hammered home twice, is that the politically

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Like Hillary was supposed to win in

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Speaker 1: and they actually rigged everything for her, the DNC did.

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Speaker 1: But based on this calendar two buck. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there is the possibility that, unlike in past years where

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Speaker 1: Trump has shown a lot of national strength. You were

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Speaker 1: Listen to this in New Hampshire right now, Ron de

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Speaker 1: Santis up twelve points on Donald Trump. So what I

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Speaker 1: to be very strong in New Hampshire. I think that

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Speaker 1: On a statewide basis, I think New Hampshire is likely

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Speaker 1: sense of Trump's invincibility in a certain way, meaning that

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Speaker 1: they try to Yes, I know he's not president right

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Speaker 1: now when we all know what happen in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and but the sense that you cannot the machine, the

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Speaker 1: from everybody we know, every legal analyst that you and

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Speaker 1: I had two former attorney generals tell me Republican attorney

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Speaker 1: polls of the audience and things like that. And so

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Speaker 1: the conservative audience, this is about ten years ago, eighty

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Speaker 1: or eighty five percent of our conservative readers and audience

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Speaker 1: back in the day. We're on Facebook. Less than five

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Speaker 1: percent on Twitter, but maybe five percent or on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Meaning everybody listening to this, you may not be active

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Speaker 1: on Facebook, but you have a Facebook account. Some of

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Speaker 1: you're probably very active on it. There's Trump being back

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Speaker 1: on and this is my fundamental point with this. And

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Speaker 1: then there's what do we do about the fact that Facebook,

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Speaker 1: with very minor behind the scenes algorithms, shifts and games

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Speaker 1: that can be played for our safety. But really it's

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Speaker 1: just you know, libs getting their way can change the

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Speaker 1: course of an election when you look at how many

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Speaker 1: votes are really being tallied in the final you know,

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Speaker 1: in the final hours that make the difference. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: for people out there who haven't heard me talk about this,

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Speaker 1: I actually testified in front of the House Judiciary Subcommittee

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Speaker 1: on Big Tech back in twenty twenty one, I believe

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Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty one. And by the way, Buck,

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Speaker 1: picture of us wearing a mask the only picture that

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Speaker 1: I am aware of that out there of me wearing

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Speaker 1: a mask. This is going to go down and infamy

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Speaker 1: of how stupid this was. You know, you couldn't testify

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Speaker 1: in front of Congress in the spring and winter of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one unless you wore a mask. I mean that,

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Speaker 1: it is how crazy it was. The so I testified

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Speaker 1: in front of that subcommittee, having to wear a mask

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Speaker 1: during the testimony, which is so stupid, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but there are pictures of me trying to sit there

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Speaker 1: with a big, oversized mask and speak in front of

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Speaker 1: Congress because Democrats were in control and they mandated that

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Speaker 1: everyone who was in that room had to wear a mask.

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Speaker 1: But one reason I felt comfortable ultimately making the decision

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Speaker 1: to sell the Fox was because of the power of

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Speaker 1: big tech algorithms. When you're trying to run a business,

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Speaker 1: and I've seen this running a media business. You can

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Speaker 1: go from absolutely dominating, you feel like you are on

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Speaker 1: a roll, and then those algorithms to and they don't

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Speaker 1: like what you're posting. And I saw it happen directly

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Speaker 1: when we had Donald Trump on the very first time

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Speaker 1: on my radio show, a sports talk radio show at

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Speaker 1: the time, and OutKick wrote all about it. Our traffic

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Speaker 1: positive stories about Trump. That costs real money. That's money

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Speaker 1: directly out of my pocket, didn't we do with the

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Speaker 1: demonetized for a period or something. I'd have to go

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Speaker 1: back and dank they wouldn't allow our interview that we

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Speaker 1: to allow us to share our interview with Trump like

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Speaker 1: they had done for Rand Paul as well. And that's

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Speaker 1: my argument, regardless of your politics, you should want as

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Speaker 1: much public discussion from your political candidates as possible, so

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Speaker 1: you can go watch the interview and be like, I

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Speaker 1: like this guy, I don't like this guy. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: donate to him. I'm gonna donate to his opponent. They're

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Speaker 1: actually rigging the election and also making people less informed

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Speaker 1: at big tech, and it's infuriating that that's even possible,

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Speaker 1: and buck from our perspective, we're actually interviewing someone. You

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Speaker 1: are not allowing us to be heard because of the

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Speaker 1: answers that someone who we interview gives. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: next the level censorship. That's not even just censoring Trump,

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Speaker 1: it's censoring our ability on the biggest radio show in

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Speaker 1: the country to actually talk to Trump and share that

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Speaker 1: interview with everybody out there who might not have heard

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Speaker 1: it live. It's going to be a big battle here

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Speaker 1: to see how because I know, again, people that work

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Speaker 1: in media, because it's part of our day to day existence,

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Speaker 1: think about social media a lot more in these ways

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Speaker 1: than everyday folks. And that makes sense. These social media

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Speaker 1: companies can deliver the election to candidates if they want to.

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Speaker 1: We just need to understand that that is the amount

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Speaker 1: effect on social media, it's just not something we can ignore.

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Speaker 1: So Trump getting back on Facebook, which already there are

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Speaker 1: how how dare you get the U leave a dangling

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Speaker 1: Um and uh, and you have more power to you

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Speaker 1: for me. I just thought it was awesome too that

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Speaker 1: you used to say the state Nevada incorrectly. People blamed me,

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Speaker 1: and I want to be like my Clay's keeper, like

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Speaker 1: I don't understand, like why is this on me? Like

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Speaker 1: And hopefully I'm pronouncing the state right. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you this buck. Speaking of I think I mentioned

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Speaker 1: this to you yesterday. I got a listener who sent

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Speaker 1: a mixtape for you for your wedding. And I guess

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Speaker 1: mixtape is not necessarily if those of you's not actually

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Speaker 1: retaining the day. What's a CD? But I don't even

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Speaker 1: know that I have the ability. I can you do

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Speaker 1: a mix CD? Like I think you still call the

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Speaker 1: burn a CD. It's a CD. Yeah, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: the thing in my generation play we have CDs in

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Speaker 1: college songs for you for your for your wedding. So

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Speaker 1: that was I got me. Know what when I opened

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Speaker 1: my mail, do we know what the songs are, like,

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Speaker 1: were they written out? I'm just sort of curious. Is

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Speaker 1: endless love on there? I mean, are we Uh there's

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Speaker 1: just a meat loaf? Like, what are we talking about here?

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Speaker 1: I I it's at my house in Nashville right now.

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Speaker 1: And uh, every now and then I get mail at

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Speaker 1: Um and uh. And most of the time it's nice,

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Speaker 1: although uh, sometimes we get negative things into the house.

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Speaker 1: Um and I do think it's funny. This is the first.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm like, if if you do something though, it

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Speaker 1: that they're bothered. Like what if I got it. I

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Speaker 1: got a letter the other day, buck. All it was

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Speaker 1: was a big blown up piece of mail, and when

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Speaker 1: I opened it, it just said loser. That's all that

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Speaker 1: for you that I had to get to you for

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Speaker 1: the wedding playlist. I don't know what carry's gonna think.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can take it on the honeymoon, you know,

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Speaker 1: toss it in the CD player. Sometimes people are really mean,

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Speaker 1: but they're mean and it's kind of funny and so

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Speaker 1: then it's okay. I will always remember being told that

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Speaker 1: that's strangely very specific, but strangely very specific too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember. That's also like a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: yeah when he cheat, well, when Missus doubt Fire, the

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Speaker 1: character is gonna come up against being canceled. As you know,

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Speaker 1: the show wildly popular show, Friends started to get into

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Speaker 1: for that. Um. Look, people just want people just want

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Speaker 1: good content, So start with that. And I know we

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Speaker 1: white people anymore. I don't think you could do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: But I think you wouldn't do would be so unacceptable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't put money behind it.

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Speaker 1: They would be terrified of being called, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that all tie together. One is

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Speaker 1: the border as we know, yes, wide open, the worst

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Speaker 1: fascinating to see how the conversation has shifted here even

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Speaker 1: New York. And that's coming from the Democrat Mayor of

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Speaker 1: New York, Eric Adams. But also we started out today

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Speaker 1: talking about the polling in New Hampshire. And the truth is,

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Speaker 1: I think Eric Adams is looking looking at the next

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Speaker 1: big job. I think he's thinking about running for president.

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Speaker 1: And I know, look is Biden gonna just be the guy?

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Speaker 1: I believe that's probably the case. But Biden would only have,

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Speaker 1: it's very interesting to see some of the maneuvering. And

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Speaker 1: also right now, I think Clay that Democrats are paying

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Speaker 1: more attention two possible Biden challengers because it's not official yet, right,

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Speaker 1: so you can sort of you can get a little

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Speaker 1: going if you're Gavin Newsom, Eric Adams, not Pete Buddha Judge,

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Speaker 1: although he's in the administration some capacity. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that when we come back. And then also maybe

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Speaker 1: if you want to talk Russia Ukraine. It's getting pretty

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Speaker 1: scary over there. Yeah, and it doesn't feel like it's

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Speaker 1: going to be changing anytime soon. But I think your point.

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Speaker 1: I think you were the first person to say it

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Speaker 1: that I heard. Hey, Eric Adams clearly laying the groundwork

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Speaker 1: to challenge Biden regardless. In twenty twenty four,