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Speaker 2: Kevin is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up. He's getting ghosted by a woman named Katherine,

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Speaker 2: and I really hope that when we call her and

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Speaker 2: find out why she's ghosting him, it's cool and they

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Speaker 2: go on another date, because Catherine and Kevin should date.

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Speaker 3: It sounds very good together. I just cute Kevin. What's up, man?

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Speaker 4: Hey, not much? How are you man?

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 2: Before we get into your date, how long has it

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Speaker 2: been since you heard from Catherine?

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Speaker 4: It has just been like five or six days now.

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Speaker 5: Were you the last one to contact her, like, or

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Speaker 5: was the last time you saw each other the last

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Speaker 5: time you talked?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well she you know, she texts me that she got

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Speaker 6: home safe, enjoy herself, and then I've been texting her

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Speaker 6: the past few days.

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Speaker 4: And nothing, so I just don't know.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's go back to the beginning and hear about

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Speaker 5: how you guys met, what your date was like, and

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Speaker 5: see if we can figure it out.

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Speaker 4: I was there with a couple of friends.

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Speaker 6: I just got promoted, so we were just celebrating my promotion,

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Speaker 6: like nothing real big just something small night.

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Speaker 4: You know, I had been seeing her. She was with

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Speaker 4: some girlfriends, and you know, I finally got the courage.

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Speaker 4: I said, hello, tour. You know, she was cordial, she

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Speaker 6: You know, I bought her a drink and we just

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Speaker 6: started chatting it up. And as the evening went, She's

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Speaker 6: starting you know, she just felt more comfortable, I can tell.

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Speaker 4: And I mean we just clicked.

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Speaker 3: Were you at a bar?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we were had a nice littlepot. Yeah, we

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Speaker 6: were just at a bar. I was just celebrating my

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Speaker 6: commotion with some friends. Yeah, I mean so so like,

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Speaker 6: you know, it was cool, and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 6: you know what, here's my numbers, exchange numbers. I would

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Speaker 6: like to take you out to the dinner, you know,

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Speaker 6: just a proper date because I wasn't I wasn't going

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Speaker 4: I was just going with my buddies.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, so, like we met a couple of

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Speaker 6: days later, you know, and I took her.

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Speaker 4: Out, you know, which was cool.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: We had a great time.

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Speaker 6: I mean, went out on the town just hanging out

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: It was crazy because our conversation was good, you know,

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Speaker 6: like we've been knowing each other for years, so.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It was just weird.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: I mean then, dude, I'm so puzzled. You know.

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Speaker 6: That's why I called you guys, because like I was like, hey,

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Speaker 6: you know, you want to see my place?

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Speaker 4: She was like sure, So we went back to my place.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say I.

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Speaker 6: Was a slow because of college, but you know, I

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Speaker 6: got a promotion. Man, My money's a little good now.

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Speaker 6: So I got a nice little spot. You know, I

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Speaker 6: got in a little guitar. Even though I'm learning to

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Speaker 4: You know, I got a nice loan spot. Man. I

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, So like you know, she comes in, it's

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Speaker 6: it's cool, man. She enjoyed it, and she's like, you know,

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Speaker 6: we're chatting up. She's like, hey, you know, play me

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Speaker 6: a song, and I'm like, oh lord, I played a

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Speaker 6: couple of songs and I nailed them.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: I mean we just had a great time.

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Speaker 3: Did you kiss?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man, we kissed. We had a good time. We

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Speaker 6: Okay, we went full of adult She had told me, hey,

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Speaker 6: I got to wake up early. You know, I gotta

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Speaker 6: me when you get home safe and you She's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Thank you for a great night. You know, I'll see

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Speaker 4: you tomorrow. That was fur days ago, dude.

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Speaker 3: And so you don't have any idea why she may

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just I'm at a loss. That's

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Speaker 5: You sound like a very nice person, so please don't

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Speaker 5: take this the wrong way. But I just wonder if

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Speaker 5: there's a little bit of like overconfidence that maybe was

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Speaker 3: Bit I don't know much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know from the I'll play the guitar and

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Speaker 5: I have a really nice spot. I just got my raise,

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Speaker 5: like that's a lot of showy things. So I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it was something that just maybe got too much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it could be. I didn't think about

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Speaker 4: it that way, but it could be. I was just

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was there celebrating my promotions.

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Speaker 5: I should and I understand you get excited. I'm just

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Speaker 5: saying maybe it came off that way. You know what,

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Speaker 5: I've wondered that about. That's a good point, Nina. I

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Speaker 2: Sometimes if I start talking to somebody new right, I

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Speaker 2: am interested in a lot of things. I also get

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Speaker 2: seems like I'm trying to like show off or something,

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Speaker 2: or I'm trying to be like, look at all the

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Speaker 2: but they don't know me well enough yet to know

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Speaker 5: It's an easy thing to come off wrong, but I

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Speaker 3: Maybe she was a little bit thrown.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm getting more insight on maybe the times I've

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Speaker 2: been ghosted that was probably why.

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Speaker 3: All right, Kevi here for you.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a song come Back, and then call her

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Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you

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Speaker 2: and hopefully get you another date. Okay, all right, all right,

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Speaker 2: well play song come Back, Get your first date follow up, Next.

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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for today's first Date follow up,

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Speaker 2: Kevin is on the phone. He's getting ghosted by Catherine,

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Speaker 2: and we're about to call her and ask her why

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Speaker 2: she's ghosting him and hopefully get him another date if

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Speaker 2: he still wants one after here's the reason. But before

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Speaker 2: we call her, ken Evan, why don't you refresh everybody's memory?

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Speaker 2: What tell us about your day with Catherine?

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Speaker 4: Dude?

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Speaker 6: We just, you know, like I said, we met when

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Speaker 6: I was out celebrating my promotion.

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Speaker 4: Then we went out for a date couple of days later,

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Speaker 6: We had a good time, went back to my place

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Speaker 4: After that, I hadn't heard anything from her. So it's

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Speaker 4: spent like a week now, five days. So I'm just

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out what's going on, you know. And

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Speaker 4: I don't know now that I think about it.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's because you know everything I have going on,

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Speaker 6: and I made her where of my stuff, and you know,

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Speaker 6: I didn't think I overkilled, But who knows now that

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Speaker 6: you guys got me thinking.

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Speaker 3: Kevin has a bunch of stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: He's excited about a promotion, he's learned to play the guitar,

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Speaker 2: on in his life. All right, man, well about to

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Speaker 2: we can figure out why you're ready.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's just do it.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I may speak to Catherine please, yep, this is Catherine.

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Speaker 2: Hi Catherine, how are you. My name is Jewbell. I

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Speaker 2: host a radio show. It's called The Jewbel Show. Hi, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: we're keeping it so formal.

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Speaker 3: My name is Nina. I'm also here. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're calling you because we do a segment on

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Speaker 2: the show. It's called the first Date follow Up. What

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Speaker 2: that is is if you go on a date with

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Speaker 2: someone and ended up ghosting them, that person can email

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Speaker 2: us to get you on the phone and ask you why.

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Speaker 2: So you are ghosting someone and they really liked you

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Speaker 2: and they want to know why you're not calling them back.

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Speaker 7: Kevin Ryan, Yeah, I wish you to hint why you

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Speaker 7: wish he took the hint?

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Speaker 5: Yes it is Kevin, by the way, Sorry, but what hint?

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Speaker 5: I mean if you don't mind telling us what happened?

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Speaker 5: Because he said your guys in date was.

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Speaker 7: Excellent, I mean he was great. At dinner, you know,

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Speaker 7: we hit it off. Then once you got back to

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, his.

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Speaker 7: Place was very nice, don't get me wrong, but he

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Speaker 8: And I get it, you got a promotion.

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Speaker 7: It's okay to be, you know, happy about the things

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Speaker 8: And then the way he spoke about me was.

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Speaker 7: Like I was an accessory and he was adding me

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Speaker 7: to like a trophy, Like I was like a trophy

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Speaker 7: to him, Like I don't know, it was weird. And

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Speaker 7: then he just kept talking about money, and I feel

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Speaker 8: Was just so ghost. You know, there are things that you.

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Speaker 7: Just like really don't talk about. And just just the

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Speaker 7: way he made me feel, it's like he was adding

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Speaker 7: I don't want to be treated like an object.

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Speaker 5: You did stay there though, you guys were intimate though.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And then another thing, the guitar. He literally win the

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Speaker 7: song do you know Wonderwall?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, actually love that BIOasis, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 7: Chronic iconic song, but he completely Oh I have nightmares.

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Speaker 8: I don't even want to.

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Speaker 4: Think about it. No wonder.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that one got yeah, yeah, I keep going. So

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Speaker 3: he ruined it.

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Speaker 7: He ruined it.

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Speaker 8: And it's not like he was just like singing it

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Speaker 7: He was singing it like while he was getting a

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a little that's that's interesting. I just don't

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Speaker 7: I mean I was just so stumped, like I don't know,

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Speaker 7: a I don't know. He sang it during the warm

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Speaker 7: he sang it. Absolutely had sex and we were laying

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Speaker 8: What wonder Wonderwall? Yes, now you know why I'm traumatized.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was into someone and that started singing

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Speaker 3: Maybe he was that good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I have to go to work tomorrow. And I completely

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you for being honest. That's cool.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that yeah, we'll make sure that we give

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Well, actually.

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Speaker 2: We don't even need to do that because Catherine Kevin

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, it's not a problem. I'll learn more songs.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we think about it. Wonderful, wonderful, it's a

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Speaker 6: think your trophy, Yeah, you're hot as hell, but.

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Speaker 7: What the vibes weren't there? So yeah, I don't. I

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Speaker 8: I mean it wasn't really the song, the song added,

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Speaker 7: But like I said, the bragging, just the overall vibes,

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Speaker 6: Really, But yet I was able to do whatever I

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can learn more songs. It's no big deal.

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Speaker 6: I don't understand, Like I'm not bragging. Hell, I've been

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Speaker 6: down and out. I mean, I'm just telling you what

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Speaker 7: I hear you, but that's my perception. It was just

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Speaker 6: I'm stoked, really really so, I'm stoked that I got

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Speaker 4: I'm making the most money that I've ever made. I

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Speaker 4: got a pat There you go. How is it for me?

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Speaker 4: It could be crappy to someone else, but for me,

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Speaker 4: all right, whatever?

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Speaker 6: I mean, but listen, I have no problem learning more songs.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Catherine, would you like to go on another

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Speaker 2: date with Kevin? Will pay for it? Sounds like it's good?

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Speaker 6: learning more songs. I mean, you're you're crazy.

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Speaker 8: I'm okay, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I still want to go out with her? That you

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Speaker 4: No, I would, I would. I would be willing to

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Speaker 8: I think I'm just gonna end it here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's that's fine. I totally understand, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I wish you the best.

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Speaker 6: I know one thing, somebody out there, somebody somewhere will

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Speaker 6: love the war.

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Speaker 4: I've sung wonder Wall and never love my singing, so hey.

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Speaker 3: Yes they will, sure will, Yes they will.

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