WEBVTT - Unreal Dynamite Show!/Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:14.560 Let's get it all. How's going everybody? Brian Alvarez here 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.599 on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.000 Monday through Friday. Now Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:25.160 sixth Eastern. It is Thursday here on the program. You 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:26.480 know what that means. We've got a lot to get 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:31.880 into today. Last night a w Dynamite Holy Smokes. Was 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.519 there some great wrestling on that show. If you're a 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.960 fan of wrestling and violence, I got the show for you. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.120 We'll talk about that here today. Full review of Dynamite 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.919 more tonight on the Brian viny Show only for subscribers 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.520 Wrestling Observer dot Com, Video dot for w online dot Com. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.400 Sometimes I review the shows here on this show or elsewhere. Oh, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.760 I can't believe they didn't talk about I got a 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:58.600 limited amount of time a national radio But tonight on 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.040 the podcast, we do not have limited time, so much 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.039 more detail obviously on the Brian and Vinney show, but 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.480 I will go over all of the main stories on 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.440 the program here today. We've also got to the n 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.520 x T ratings from this past Tuesday night. N x 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.320 T did not do as well as RAW did. Raw 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.080 had a huge number for their go home show. N 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.640 x T did what it normally does. I'll tell you 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.639 about that. And also we have the full lineup for 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.959 the Stand and Liver Show, the full lineup for Night 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.560 one and Night two of WrestleMania, and obviously there's a 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.800 big SmackDown tomorrow night with DeAndre the Giant Memorial Battle 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:42.680 Royal and this poor geek Ricochet. We'll be facing Umberto 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:48.240 and Angel in a match he asked for a three 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.520 way facing an established tag team that's coming up tomorrow. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:57.880 We've allays gotten notes on Nick con You talked a 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.640 lot about w w E, and of course it's uh, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:02.960 you know, it's Nick kNN talking about w w we's 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.680 we can tell you about that. I got a new 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:11.240 U w w E scripted series that's coming out and uh, 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.440 what an irony, What an irony. We'll tell you about 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.600 that later on and so much more. MIXIV joins us 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.720 after the break back in the moment, Everybody Observer Live 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.320 back in the show. Brian Albert is here Wrestling Observer 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:54.680 Alive MIXIMBURMV, also of Wrestling observer dot com. So we 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.280 had some some bloke he's actually I don't know. I 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.120 started to tell with these these twitch geeks whether they're 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:07.880 they're trolls or or geeks. You know what I'm saying, Well, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.880 whether they're being ignorant to be ignorant, or whether they're ignorant. Well, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.400 some people just say such stupid things that it's like 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.560 they can't possibly be serious. But then there's such a 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.200 consistency to their stupidity that then you start thinking, is 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.640 he actually this dumb? So anyway, one of these guys goes, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.760 aren't there eighty thousand tickets out both nights for WrestleMania? 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:31.600 Eighty thousand? Ruh, here's the numbers for WrestleMania right now, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:36.600 Night one, Night one? And by the way, do I 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.840 need to throw out in my original prediction for WrestleMania 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.360 was fifty five thousand both nights. Do I need to 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:48.920 remind everybody of that? Yes? Okay, well Night one, Night 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.800 one is it fifty eight thousand, one d and fourteen? 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:59.880 And uh night to is that fifty seven thousand? So 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:05.040 you're wrong? No, I'm actually dead on because you don't 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.640 get in. Everybody was talking about how this I shouldn't 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.480 say everybody, but people were very confident that this we 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.280 could do eighty thousand both nights. And I said, brother, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.120 it ain't gonna do eighty thousand both nights because I 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.760 ain't the only one who's not flying down there, because 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.159 I'm not doing two nights in a row. And here 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.560 we are fifty eight thousand for night one and uh, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.799 fifty seven thousand for night to Now, as I said 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:34.080 at the beginning, yes, if you're running a business, then 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.120 should we use some math here? I'll have to use 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.360 a calculator because I'm not very good at it. Fifty 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.200 eight thousand plus fifty seven thousand, Uh, They're they've sold 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.760 a hundred fifteen thousand tickets. So in fact, uh, this 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.920 is the most tickets ever sold ever for wrestle media. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.520 So yeah, if you want to look at it from 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.039 that perspective, that's great. But what they have also done 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.200 is it is true unless you are one of those 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:03.280 people that you can't passly believe that there's fifty eight 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.200 or whatever thousand the first night and a completely different 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.560 fifty seven thousand one night too. And nobody is going 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.919 to bull shows. I think we all know deep down 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.719 that what has actually happened here is as opposed to 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.760 having eighty to eighty five thousand people flying in for 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:24.080 wrestle media, now we've got fifty five thousand people flying 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.760 in for wrestle media. So you've actually you actually what 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.359 you've done here is in terms of like people that 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.440 are interested in going and traveling traveling to Mania, there's 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.279 actually less here than there's been in forever. But you 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.320 have successfully sold more tickets than you've ever sold because 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.400 the fewer number of people that want to go are 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.360 buying tickets for two nights. That's what's happened here. So 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.839 from a business perspective, you can look at this however 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.960 you want. Obviously, the way w w E is looking 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.239 at it is the short term. We sold hundred fifteen 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.120 thousand tickets way to go, We've broken all of our records. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.000 We can tout it on social media. It's the most 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.760 attended to wrestle media. However, they're gonna put it or whatever, 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.000 and of course you know they'll they'll inflate that to 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.080 thirty thousand tickets sold. But the fact of the matter 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.960 is this is the short term thinking. The long term 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.960 thinking would be, we really want to move from eighty 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.600 thousand people willing to travel to now whatever. That's where 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:24.920 we're at. You're you're right, but you're right and you're wrong. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.440 I think there's actually I'm right and I'm right. Whichever 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.120 one you think is the way to look at it 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.360 is is you're right or wrong, but they're both. They're 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.760 both true. There's less people going, but they made more 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:42.200 money and sold more tickets. But they've been looking at this. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.080 But you say it's short term. They have been looking 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.960 at this for a long time, and they did jump 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:50.840 ahead of everybody by going to two nights. And you 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.840 can debate that as a fan and as a viewer, 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.400 whether it is a good production, whether it gives you 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.880 your time's worth, all that sort of stuff. But the 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.039 flip side of that is it's a lot easier to 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.479 contract it to this point than it is to expand, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.600 and we'll find out with Los Angeles next year being 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.200 a really good example of that. With having the Rock there, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.000 you only need to have it, Okay, if that happens 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.960 the Rock and Roman range, you only really need to 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.360 have one night, and to me, you would want to 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.880 maximize that. But they probably won't. They're going to go 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.560 with multiple nights because this is what their plan has been, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.680 and it is not that it is not solely WW 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.000 that's done this. We brought it up many times. This 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.000 is the way a lot of these events have. This 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.600 is the way that they've gone, and they want to 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:41.240 dominate every night. So you're right, it has shrunk, but 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.400 the fact is that number was probably going to shrink 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.520 and contract a little bit anyway. So now you have 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.880 given the people, if you look at this from a 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.640 marketing point of view, the ability to show up any 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.200 night and see Rustlemani and the ability to show up 0:07:55.240 --> 0:08:00.480 any day and see multiple WWE things happening. So it's 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.160 a catch. It's again, I see how they want to 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.200 extract as much money as possible out of the most 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.560 amount of people, and that's what they're doing right now. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.760 And it's a lot easier for them to shrink this 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.480 back to one night if they want to, as opposed 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.520 to running to you know, two nights. Look, they could 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.720 lose their minds and go three nights at some point 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.480 if they think it's going to make business and financial sense, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.240 and god knows, maybe they will, because they still have 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:30.040 about sixty thousand people that have flooded that area for Rustlemania, 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.720 and that's what they're there for. So I don't know. Well, 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.480 all I know is they they got fifties seven and 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.280 fifty eight, and uh, next year, I mean, I don't 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.520 think they're gonna have Stone Cold Steve Austin. I still 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:48.520 don't think they're gonna have the Rock. So what are 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.720 we gonna have next year? Johnny Knoxville comes back? What else? 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.080 I mean? Look at these cards and what do they 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.640 do to get these? Uh? Fifty seven and fifty eight? 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.280 I got Becky and Bianca, so I'm sure next year 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.160 they're big match is gonna be Becky and Rhonda. They're 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.000 hoping that's gonna be a big one. We've got brock 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.400 Lessner and Roman Reigns, and obviously next year they want 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.079 Roman Reigns and the Rock, which I don't think it's 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.480 gonna happen, but they think it's gonna happen. So, uh, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.520 you know, what else do we got next year? We 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.040 got Omas, the giant Omas, the undefeated Omas against somebody 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.600 Omas and brock Lessner. Is that gonna be their big 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:29.080 match next year? Uh? Edges already come back? You know, 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.760 we've got Pet McAfee. Maybe you can come out of 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.480 the booth again. Yeah, we got we got Cody, who 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:39.680 they're not even announcing, and that's on Night one. But anyway, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.079 here are the lineups Night one, Becky and Bianca, Ray 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.240 and Dominic versus MS and Logan, Paul Drew McIntyre and 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.760 Happy Corbin, Ussos versus Knackamar and Boogs, New Day versus 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:56.400 Shamus and Ridge Holland, Seth Rollins versus Cody and Charlotte 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:02.679 Flair versus Rhonda Rousey and apparently, as always, as always, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:04.920 the left hand does not know what the right hand 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.000 is doing. Kevin Owens and run A Rousey both believe 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.360 they are the main event of WrestleMania. So we'll see 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.600 what happens on Saturday Night Sunday. We got to multiple 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.079 main events, don't they? I heard this story with Ronda 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:19.920 being told she was in the main event. I mean, 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.000 don't they Don't they look at their shows as having 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.000 like three main events on each Well, you know, I 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.280 think if they if if they consider Ronda Rousey like 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.440 the kiss Demon, They're signed a contract that you always 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.560 be in the main event, so they put him on 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.079 second and said they called it a main event even 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.160 though it's on second on the card. Yeah, you could 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.760 do that if you wanted to. But I'm pretty sure 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.800 that Kevin Owens and Ronda Rousey both believe that they 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.280 are going on last. Well, I think you tell Ronda 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.720 Rousey anything and then she can get angry about it 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.559 later on down the line. But yeah, closing the show, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.120 if it's not Steve Auston in Texas, I mean, it's 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.760 well dumb. We have got Lena Carmela versus Sasha, Naomi 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.440 versus Rhea and Live versus Natty and Shana this night too, 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.960 Johnny Knoxville versus Sammy's an then goes Pat mcvieouson theory. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.120 By the way, no Vince, So unless they do something 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.760 on Friday, which they could do because Pat McAfee is 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.120 of course the commentator there. I mean, I guess we'll 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.040 see what happens, but he was always supposed to be there, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.280 so we shall see. R. K. Bro Street prophets alph 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.559 Academy Triple Threat for the tag titles, Edge and A J. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:29.439 Bobby Lashley and Omas and Lessner and Roman Reigns for 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.480 the universal title. So that is the that's the lineup. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.280 I hope Shane McMahon's music hits first when seth goes 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.400 out there, I really do. I hope he comes dancing 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.760 out there. Then everybody loses their mind, and then Cody 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.880 comes out and then hits them with a sledgehammer or 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.360 whatever it is Cody's gonna do. They also have the 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.280 n x T Show pre show Toxic Attraction versus Raquel 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:59.160 and Dakota Carmelo, Santo Sesco, bar Solo, Sakoa Grays and 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.240 Waller Cameron Grimes for the North American title and the 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.559 ladder match Tomasa Chump and Tony D'Angelo and Chomp his 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.840 last match, Mandy Rose, Cora, jade Eo, Shirai, Kaylee Ray 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:15.160 four Way for the Women's title, Imperium versus Creeds versus 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.959 M S K for the tag titles, l A. Knight 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:24.080 versus Gunter, and Delve Ziggler versus bron Breaker. That next 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.599 t at nine am Pacific, How fun. Everybody back in 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:41.480 a moment. It is ther Live back in the show. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.000 Bran Elvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live, Mike umber viv also 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.679 Wrestling Observer dot Com and x T. Tuesday six six 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:54.840 thousand viewers down slightly from last week, still the best 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.280 studience for the show since January eleven. There's a bill 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.520 to stand in the liver. Point one were in eighteen 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.320 forty nine, which is about what it's been doing. That's 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.120 that's good, by the way, for a next it's compared 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.160 one down four point three and overall viewers down to 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:18.079 thirty three at eighteen to forty nine. I think we're 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.439 comparing a year to year where they were going head 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.200 to head with Dynamite. They're doing worse. Remember when they 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.520 got rid of Hunter, Remember that, and they got rid 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.280 of that guy, and they rebranded it and they made 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.880 it all colorful, and they came up with a bunch 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.640 of stupid gimmicks and everything like that. Now it's doing 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:40.760 much worse. That's weird. And it's not even had to 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:46.000 ad anymore. Think about that. It's got a better theme 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:52.520 though with wallet or now it's been young pay that much. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:58.000 That's true. During a podcast appearance, Nick Cohn was asked 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.080 about an address complaints from wrestlers that have left the company, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:08.120 citing negative experiences and preferential treatment. Speaking on The Town podcast, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:14.079 con said everyone is treated humanely because you know, I 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.240 was I don't like to hear about places that treat 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:24.920 people inhumanely, but that's what he said. These are These 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.840 are exact quotes. Everyone is treated humanely, and he adds 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.840 they deserve to be treated that way. We don't stick 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:39.920 him in the bell tower anymore. I'm sure someone's gonna 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.760 get really mad at me for this, but I'm actually 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:46.280 reading these are the words that Nick Con said, So like, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:47.440 I don't know why you would get mad at me, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.240 but let me read that again. Nick CON's responses to 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.320 wrestlers who say that the soiling green is people said, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:59.000 he said, this is a direct quote. Everyone is treated 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:05.920 humanely and deserves to be treated that way. Oh no, God, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.600 And you know, I I hope they actually turned that 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.440 back and they they really start wrestling tear eating wrestlers inhumanely. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.280 So Sarah McLaughlin can have a song and we can 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.600 have a slow montage of sad w W E faces 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.960 like Ricochet getting beat up in a hundred and five seconds, 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:29.520 and just a whole line of those things. Just well, 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:36.400 may I continue. Sure. He compared their situation to win 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.880 the NBA's l A Lakers at Superstars Kobe Bryant and 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.120 Shaquille O'Neil at the same time, noting that they weren't 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.000 treated the same as some of their other teammates. Was 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.240 Scheck treated better than any other player other than Kobe? 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.440 Said Nick con Yeah, that's the way it is. He 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.000 then brought up Will Smith was not removed from the 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.480 Oscars following his slap of Chris Rock partially because he 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.520 was a star. Well, that's a very complicated story, because 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.400 according to the Academy, they asked him to leave and 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:11.760 he refused, so they didn't make him. Then. Of course, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.440 there are others that say they actually never asked him 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.600 to leave officially. You unofficially asked him to leave. Listen 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.000 in an unofficial capacity. Could you leave after slapping that guy? No? 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.120 Al right, well, anyway, we got a Best Actor award 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.600 for you, so stick around. Anyway. He co produced the 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:31.080 show too, it said. Uh, he says, here was Shock treated. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.440 Oh yeah, I heard that. It's the same with us. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.040 It is a meritocracy. If you're at the top of 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.400 the card, maybe you have a bigger dressing room than 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.040 someone at the bottom of the card. Everyone has the 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:49.240 same opportunity to earn their way there, he said. He 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.880 also said the company is open for business when asked 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.000 him about a potential sale. It's not like I've been 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.720 saying that for like a year and everybody thought I 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:01.840 was an idiot. Open for business, everybody's been saying it. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.680 Come on, he says. There a treasure trove of I 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:13.120 p go there, he said. The Vince McMahon Netflix docuseries 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:18.200 is set to debut in three w w E is 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.800 for the masses, he said, and the company can never 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.920 lose sight of that, he said. He said this publicly. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.560 The average viewer is someone that grew up in the 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.080 eighties or nineties and went to public school because of 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.240 the availability or lack thereof, of cable in many times. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.560 What what does that mean? Con talked about how he 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.920 came to w w E. This is way a nice 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.400 way to say demographic is they're old and broke, which 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.119 used to be the whole stereotype of wrestling fans as 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.879 they were well broke. He's not necessarily saying they're broke today. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.840 They were broke then. Didn't we all grew up broke? 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:05.000 Nick Con? You know, poorer than he was. He was 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:12.200 poorer than dirt, which is very poor, although dirt is 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.600 rich in nutrients now that I think about it. But anyway, 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.639 that's a story here. I'm sure this is I'm sure 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.280 he's a great guy. I actually have nothing against Nick 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.359 con But you know what this is, this company is 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.800 being permeated with people that know nothing about a wrestling 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.960 That's what we've got here. And and maybe, you know, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.400 maybe we're gonna find out. Let's be honest here, maybe 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.520 we're gonna find out because historically this has certainly been 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.920 the case, then you don't need to know anything about 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:43.680 wrestling to run a wrestling company. We might find that out. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.800 Maybe times have changed because it's always worked out really 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.640 really well. Yes, um, one thing he's he's he said 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.840 that was absolutely right. That I don't know if anybody 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.280 wants to flex about, and I'm sure somebody's in their 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.359 feelings about it. Is the whole thing of the meritocracy 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.160 and all that's all true, that's all fine, that's all fair. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.600 And to have a bunch of stars, you know, you 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.080 want to pack your team with stars at the expense 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.119 of maybe you know, the other role players on the 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.080 team don't get the shine. You know that that's all fair. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.600 That the whole thing is the opportunity to succeed because 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.040 in sports, if somebody started out shoot Kobe and somebody 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.600 started to run up and down the floor. Look, the 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.920 Showtime Lakers are a good example of this, and the 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:31.880 whole deal on HBO right now, the Winning Time uh documentary, 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.440 that's a documentary, whatever the hell you want to call it, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.680 the movie that the miniseries that's taking place where Norm 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.399 Nixon was an all star guard for the Lakers. But 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.600 then Magic got there and then it wasn't really long 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.120 after that the Norm Nixon was gone. But they put 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.160 him in the same backcourt. They wanted him to see 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.879 who's going to be that guy who's going to be 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.240 there with Kareem you know, who would be shock in 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.760 that equation, and they let them. They really did give 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.080 them an opportunity to go out there and win the job. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.520 And that's would w W E doesn't do. And that's 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.720 where all that bs that he talks about, all that 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:10.000 business stuff is business makes perfect sense even to a 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.080 wrestling fan if it doesn't tickle your wrestling sense. A 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.439 lot of what nik Con does and as far as 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.600 if you're looking at this from a w W point 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.240 of view, a lot of what Nikkan says makes a 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.639 lot of sense. Hey, do you know is pissing on 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.359 you and and thinking that it's raining because the people 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.840 on the outside don't see why that's all bs and 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.800 what he said and look at the show from an 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.000 an an ignorant point of view, a fair you know, 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.560 just an ignorant and not knowing point of view, and 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.840 and believe what he's saying. And that's the thing that 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.440 we all know is is a croc a crap. And 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.520 the thing that really hurts them, do you know that 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:53.400 they they let Tony Storm go Wohn Moxley, Yeah, keep going, 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:55.800 let me go on. But you know what, I could 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.600 not help but notice, but well, yesterday we read an 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:03.160 article where the one guy whose name I've forgotten, God, 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.920 that dude. Sure he's a nice guy as well about 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.000 how you know, we don't needed wrestlers, we need we 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.280 need to get these young athletes straight out of college 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.240 on our ni L deals because you know, this business 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.240 is easy. We can teach it to anybody. You said 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:17.560 to be able to do a flip, We can teach 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.960 you how to be a great worker. So anyway, I 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.320 can't help, but knows I read that article yesterday and 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.960 then I read this article. Today, w w E is 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:31.040 producing a new scripted series based on a fictional pro 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:36.639 wrestling promotion for NBCUniversal. It was announced today w w 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.560 A Universal Content Productions have partnered together for a drama 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:45.400 series called Penned. Here is the description of the show 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.879 and adrenalized. I'm gonna trying to read this because this 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:55.639 is a lot of words. And adrenalized upstairs downstairs soap 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.360 that gives a behind the scenes look at fictional wrestling promotion. 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.359 Come out, I gotta mute you. I can't do this twice. 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:08.920 And adrenalized Upstairs downstairs soap that gives a behind the 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:13.240 scenes look and a fictional wrestling promotion and the unforgettable 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.280 characters that populated Pinned offers a front row seat into 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.399 the eccentric wrestling culture and the mayhem that exists between 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:26.080 the locker room and the boardroom. God, that was excruciating. 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:33.760 Go ahead. Upstairs Downstairs was a show from the seventies, 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.320 the seventies that was played on PBS. Well, they didn't 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:42.639 capitalize upstairs downstairs, so that's a term. Mike, Okay, I 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.440 thought they look with with the way that they to 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:51.000 this day referenced things from the eighties to their fans, 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.280 as if their fans most of them have any idea 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.440 of what the hell they're talking about is something. So 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.680 I thought that was right in line with with some 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:05.080 of their thinking. But I mean, are you surprised talk 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:09.840 about controlling your narrative? Actually, yeah, very surprised at speak 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.000 series about pro wrestling. Dude, right up their alley. This 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.080 is where they're at in this day and age. And 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:16.879 you know what they'll be able to say, Brian too, 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.200 when everybody comes to the production and they roll this 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:22.560 show out and everything and heaven forbid, god knows if 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.639 it's successful and last more than one season with like, 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:30.640 you know, three episodes before it gets canceled. The crazy 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.040 part about this is the fact that they will now 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:39.320 take this and look and go, this is what wrestling. 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.280 This is the fake wrestling. This is what we do 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:45.520 for real, where all these other people in independent wrestling, 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.800 the way that people actually come up and become professional wrestlers. 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.119 They are going to further teach the public that know, 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.879 all you need to do is go to college, be 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.080 somewhat of an athlete, will give you an n I 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.600 L deal and then that's how you get into wrestling, 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.920 such a great bastardization and another controlling how to break 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:16.880 Observer Live back in the show. Ran Elbare is here 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:21.960