WEBVTT - Jaguars Draft Possibilities: Best Available Player vs. Filling Needs | Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:08.440 It is Thursday, March twenty First, this is Jackuars Happy Hour. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.080 Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by the Saint John's River 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:18.880 Water Management District and now Mother of Maximus, Dog of 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.800 the Week, and she's got the hardware. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:25.279 To prove it. TVs. Kai n Ace Stevens. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.920 Guys just butter me up every time with these JP 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:29.720 gets the mean ones, but I get the nice ones. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:31.800 So whenever you bring up my dog, I'm very happy 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:33.880 to hear that Kai Nanni Stephen's filling in for JP 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.280 once again. Jeff Logman is back with us this week, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.440 and we're dog lovers all around, so yeah, we love 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:38.800 the mentioned. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:39.600 We both are. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.519 It's been a busy week, Jeff. You haven't been here 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.320 for a little bit, so free agency a lot has 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.239 been going on while you've been gone, a lot of 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.760 fresh faces. When you were kind of seeing all these 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.559 moves go down, what were your thought process? Because last 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.040 year they didn't do a lot of free agent signing, No, but. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.000 I figured that they would be active. And of course, 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.400 even though I wasn't here, you always follow it because 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.680 I mean literally, you step away from your which is 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.120 our source for news nowadays. When you step away from 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.400 your phone for an hour, you miss a whole bunch 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.560 of stories. So I was keeping up with my phone, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.840 especially with the start of free agency, pretty much NonStop 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.759 throughout the day. You know, I'm probably a little annoying 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.640 at times. You're, you know, at spring break with the 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.560 family and you're checking your phone to see what's going on. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.240 But uh, but I thought it was very impressive. The 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.080 thing that impressed me the most that I've always been 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.040 a big fan that free agency should be an opportunity 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.679 to plug holes, and not necessarily necessarily to plug holes 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.520 with high priced free agents, but to plug holes with 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.600 good players, some expensive, some not, so that when you 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.960 go into the draft, you can address the draft in 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.360 not a needs way, but in a best available player's way, 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.400 because I think that's the only way that you survive 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.520 in the National Football League year after year. 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.480 So many moving parts. Welcome into Jaguars Happy Hour here 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.880 brought to you by the Saint John's River Water Management District, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.680 Florida's water It's worth saving. Kai Stevens here with Jeff Logman. Jeff, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.320 we were just talking about this big free agency class. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.200 They also were kind of adding they added via trade 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.040 to their backup quarterback obviously, and then signing Mitch Morres 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.720 before free agency started. We've been talking about this offensive 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.680 line for months now at this point. Obviously the back 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.119 end of last season that was a huge problem. Does 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.800 kind of sharing up this center, which was an issue, 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.360 does that hurten you a little bit that they're taking 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:23.000 it seriously? 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.519 Well? I remember me and JP had this conversation and 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.280 JP was kind of the mind that, hey, you gotta 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.800 upgrade that. And my whole point was that, look, you 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.520 can call it that, but I like to refer to 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.320 it as competition. You can bring in more competition because 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.799 it's not the It would be wrong to assume that 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.040 Luke Fortner can't compete for the starting job, but to 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.360 bring somebody in to compete with him. And I thought 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.359 Mitch Moore signing, I think it was very good. There's 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.799 a little history there because Doug Peterson spent a year 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.000 with him in Kansas City when he was I think 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.720 a fourth round draft pick for the Kansas City Chiefs 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.320 way back. When he's a good football player. He is 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.560 much better I think in past protection than he is 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:11.440 in run blocking. But to create competition with signings in 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.840 some situations to I don't want to say shore up 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.200 a weakness, but to get better, I think is a 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.640 better way to put it. Is a great thing. I 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.400 love that signing. I think it's cost affordable. The money's 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:26.239 not crazy, and with Eric Armsett it's a little different. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.600 Money goes up a little bit, but you're talking a 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.240 premiere player at a premium position and so the cost 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:34.079 goes up a little bit. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.480 Yes, I like when you bring up competing because I 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.480 think a lot of the issues. I mean, people were 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.280 you know, maybe mad a little bit. They kind of 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.040 ran it back if you want to say it last year. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.280 But you have to have that competition because if you 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.440 don't have someone kind of behind you pushing you, you're 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.120 may not get the best out of some people. Some 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.480 people aren't built that way, right. They need that kind 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.640 of oh someone's behind me kind of push them along. Yes, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.000 they're professional athletes. You should be motivated on your own. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.280 There's plenty of other reasons, but sometimes you need that 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.600 friendly competition in camp, like, hey, I need to go 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.800 in or some is gonna take my job. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.920 Yeah, there's a there's a saying out there and I 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.320 hate it. Iron sharpens iron. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.600 Oh, Trent Bulky loves iron. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.880 I hate it. It's like, wait a minute, look, great 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.240 players make make other players better, you know, and and 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.440 competition makes everybody better, I think is an easier way 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.760 to put it. And so even like an Eric Armstead, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.080 I mean he's going to come in, he's going to 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.839 come in and he's going to come in and compete. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.880 I mean, clearly he's going to have a step above 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.320 the rest because he's a proven player and he's been 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.040 a proven player for a long period of time. But 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:33.800 the one thing that he has to do, he's got 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.840 to be able to compete with himself to get healthy 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.360 because from I understand, he's going to be having an 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.599 off season surgery and to get back to the form 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.360 that where if you look at him a couple of 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.240 years ago, and he was a double digit sack guy. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:47.680 And I'm not saying he's got to be a double 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.599 jit digit sack guy, but his availability obviously is a 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.440 big thing. You want to make sure that he's available 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.279 so that he can play for you and have the 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.279 impact that he's had in the past. For the forty 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:58.000 nine ers. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.880 We're gonna hear from Eric Armstead a little bit later 0:04:59.920 --> 0:05:01.880 on the show. He was great kind of in the 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.400 press conference what we've heard from him so far, he 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.520 brings in an interesting aspect I've talked about just kind 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.360 of that that leadership. A lot of these free agents 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.640 are from winning franchises and franchises that have sustained that, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.680 you know, playoffs every season. You know, if it's a 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.920 San Francisco Buffalo, the Ravens, they understand what that's going 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.320 to take in the day to day basis. And I 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.680 think sometime bringing in a veteran presence like that to 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.720 have someone to look forward to, like, hey, this is 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.200 what we need to do every week if we want 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:26.680 to continue and make the playoffs. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.120 Well end quality people, Yes, of course, I think that's 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.760 a big tast that standard. Yeah, And that's one thing 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.640 that I give Trent ball Key credit for. And you 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.279 can debate some of his draft picks, but the one 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.000 thing I think that you can't debate with Trent and 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.599 what Doug has done, what they've done together, is the 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.240 quality of people that they've brought in. Have That's been 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.719 something that they're not going to, you know, soften up 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.599 on at all. They believe that that works, and I 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.320 believe it does too. And Eric Armstead is a perfect example. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.360 I mean, talk about a high quality guy, high character guy. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.280 I mean, exactly what you want on top of the 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.600 leadership thing. So those were positives, and you know, but 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.880 the beginning line to okay qualification is he a good 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.120 player or not? I mean, because they got to fill 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.719 that category first, and then you want to make sure 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.279 that they have the other qualities as well. And from 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.520 the looks of it, it seemed like all of these 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.760 guys have that or those qualities. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.680 And do you want to touch on someone that's not here. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.559 We were talking about it, you know, for weeks. Calvin 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.440 Ridley seemed like, you know, maybe he's coming back. Obviously, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.520 they wanted to wait until free agency so they didn't 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.480 lose that second round pick, and they didn't, but they 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.599 ended up kind of losing their guy. Do you feel 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.679 like this was an opportunity that maybe the Jaguars messed 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.719 up with or was it just kind of the Titans 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:42.640 caming out of nowhere. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.359 With a bag they did not mess up. I'm going 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.360 to stay true to what I said a while ago, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.600 and me and JP had this conversation. I've asked been 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.840 asked many times by different fans around the city and 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.720 They've asked me, what do you think about Calvin Ridley? 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.640 I said, I like them. I like them. They're like, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.320 you know, should we tag them? We want to keep 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.000 them right, I'm like, oh no. I mean, first of all, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.239 if you tag now, you're giving up a higher draft 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.000 pick number one and number two. You're committing a lot 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.480 of money to what may be only one year. Now 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.600 what sense does that make to give a third round 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.400 pick for what may end up being one year of 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.280 service and the cost of the money. I don't forget 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.000 what happened during the course of the year with Calvin Ridley. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.200 There were times where the quarterback and him were not 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.800 on the same page, that Calvin didn't seem to have 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.240 awareness on certain plays. And I'm not saying that he 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:31.960 was a bad player. I think he's a good player. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.280 I think in year two he would have been even better. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.480 But everything wasn't great last year. So let's not act 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.200 like that this was Christian Kirk of two years ago, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.960 you know, because that's not the case. And the amount 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.440 of money that the Tennessee Titans paid you can't compete 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.520 with that. I mean, if somebody wants to pay him that, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.400 then what power to him? But not you. I mean, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.600 you can't commit that kind of money or resources to 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.600 that because you've got other holes that you need to 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.400 be filled on your football team. And the thing that 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.440 this team needs to do they need to draft and 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.400 develop wide receivers. And there's nothing wrong with that. But 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.920 here's the other thing. Gabe Davis is a really good 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:12.200 football player. Last time I checked, he was averaging seventeen 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.920 yards of catch the last two years. And he's a 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:20.000 big guy. He's not a burner, but he's a guy 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.240 that I think that uses his size very well. He's 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.840 very smart, and when you average seventeen yards a catch, 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.640 you're doing something right. And so I'm a big fan 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.120 of that signing. And a lot of people may kind 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.680 of push it off and say, well, it's not Calvin Ridley. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.000 Wait a minute, Gabe Davis. If you look at his 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.520 numbers from a production standpoint, I think he's averaging like 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.079 seven touchdowns a year. He's given you seventeen yards a catch. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.600 He's six foot two to two hundred and twenty five pounds. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.960 He's a good football player and he'll fit, I think, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.240 into this offense very well. So I think the Jaguars 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.240 did a very good job with the signing of Gabe Davis. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.440 We've been talking a little bit about it on jagsam 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.920 John Oser and I have a little bit about you know, 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.280 maybe two years ago, when Trevor had a little bit 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.080 more of you didn't necessarily have a receiver you felt 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.880 you had to feed all the time, like maybe Calvin, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.800 where if you're not giving him a certain amount of balls, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.160 he might not be into the game. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:13.880 We saw some of that last year. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.520 He could spread the ball around a little bit more 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.880 when they had Marvin Jones Junior. And is that kind 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.360 of maybe a dynamic they might move forward with now 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.199 where they have kind of Gabe Davis, Christian Kirk again, 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.720 you know Zay if he's healthy, and Evan Ingram where 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.800 they'll spread the ball a little bit around instead of 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.440 having to feed one person. 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.240 Well, if you got Justin Jefferson, you feed him the ball. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.760 Sure, no one's going to say that. Of course, there 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.000 are exceptions to. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.960 The rule, so it's all dependent upon what the talent 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.800 level of your players are telling you you should how 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.040 you should utilize them. Calvin Ridley, to me, wasn't a 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.680 player that you should force him the ball because he 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.240 he's that kind of a player. I think he's a 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.200 really good player, but not the kind of player to 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.640 the level of a Justin Jefferson where you feed him. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.440 But I think that there were times that they felt 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.960 like that they had to feed him the ball to 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.720 keep him involved and to keep his attention throughout the 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.560 course of a game. And that's not what you want. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.959 You want to let things happen organically in the system. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.360 And that's the way Doug Peterson's offenses have always worked. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.880 And again, you don't go into it saying, Okay, you 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.480 know what, we don't need the guy. When you have 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.280 a guy and he turns out to be that guy 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.719 and he commands that, then you give it to him. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.800 But right now you don't have that. Until you do 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:29.160 you run the offense. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.160 Where do you look at in terms of everyone says 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.360 this is a deep wide receiver draft. We'll have a 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.960 couple more weeks to go into every single particular person 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.520 they might be looking at. But is that going to 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.280 be one of the higher picks? Does it have to 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.640 be wide receiver? There's other needs on this team and 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.800 some of those are harder to draft later on in 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.520 the draft. So do you maybe go cornerback early. Where 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.160 are you kind of looking at in terms of the 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.240 wide receiver group. Are they going to establish a lot 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.800 of draft picks to that or is it going to 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.520 be a higher pick. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.599 I think it's a great question, and I'm going to 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.800 go back to what I kind of said a little 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.439 bit ago, and because I think that's the answer for 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.320 everything when it comes to the draft. Take the best player, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.760 and if it's a wide receiver, then you take it 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.280 a wide receiver. If it's a defensive tackle, even though 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:18.080 you drafted Eric Armstead, okay, then you draft the best 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.200 defensive tackle. If he's the best player. It's the greatest 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.520 chance of continuing the lifeline of a franchise in the 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.880 future is by drafting the best player, not somebody who, well, 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.959 he's going to plug a hole here. Now could defensive back? 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:32.800 You know, is that going to be something that's going 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.440 to be addressed. Sure it is, because you draft corners 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.600 every year, and you should because that's one of the 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.479 most if you look at it from a number standpoint, 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.120 defensive back. I mean, there's there's five guys on the 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.160 field for the most part, sometimes six on your defensive 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.320 side of the ball. So it's a position of importance 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.839 just because of a number standpoint. Wide receiver is also 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.240 a position of important from a number standpoint because this 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.319 offense runs three wide receivers all the time, sometimes four, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.000 so you need to have those two positions. But again, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.920 I'm not a big fan of saying, well, you know, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.000 you take the wide receiver in two and then the 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:10.439 corner in three. I will say this in the league today, 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:15.160 the corner position and the wide receiver position have become 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.360 more premium positions than they have been in the past. 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.800 You know, typically the big guys are always kind of 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.800 up there with the quarterbacks, but because it's such a 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.160 passing oriented league now it's become even more important to 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.640 get those two positions. So yeah, it'll be interesting to 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.280 see what their mindset is. I mean with the release 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.559 or the weakness that they have at defensive back. And 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.720 they did have a signing in free agency that is 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:47.520 up because what's his name Williams that left Darius Williams 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.760 and that was surprising to me. But then you sign 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.600 a guy in free agency again, you plug that hole 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.000 so now you can draft best available player. So it'll 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.160 be interesting to see what their mindset is. And I 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.720 haven't jumped into the draft deep enough yet to know, 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.800 but from what I understand, there's a lot of wide 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.400 receivers and a lot of corners, so you should be 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.840 able to get what you want in different places. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.760 We say that, but identifying and getting the talent is 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.480 always is always difficult because before the draft we think 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.800 we have everything planned out, but well, the draft, you know, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.280 never goes the way we think it's going to go. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.160 And the reality is it's a it's a numbers game, 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.520 you know, a percentages game, whatever you want to call it. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.160 The draft, you do, you typically have less than a 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.719 fifty percent chance of hitting on a pick. I mean, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.280 just look at it. I mean, and this organization has 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.640 not drafted very well. And it's history even going from 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.600 the first round, which you know, your percentages should be 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.640 higher in the first round. And so the organization needs 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.679 to do a better job of drafting so that the lifeblood, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:54.160 the supply of talent continues to roll in to supplement 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.120 this football team year after year. So it's going to 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.360 be interesting to see what they do with the draft, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.480 you know, hopefully this year also from a production standpoint, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.800 because last year's draft class didn't get a whole lot 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.520 out of Hopefully there's more out of that this year 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.280 in year two. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.280 And I think that's going to definitely be part of 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:11.960 the plan, right because of some of those players that 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.720 we drafted last year, you need to see them on 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.559 the field more because we just don't know what's there 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.880 right now. Right whether it's Tank Bigsby or you know, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.080 Brenton Strange, A lot of them we didn't see enough 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.640 of to really know. So I know that's predicated by 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.600 whatever's happening on the field, whether you can actually give 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:25.240 them the ball or not. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.280 Obviously, I like Strange. I mean, I think Strange showed 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.960 me enough that the one issue that I would have 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.840 with Strange is that they didn't really use him in 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.440 a role that justified him being picked in the second round, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.880 because it kind of used him as a full back, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.840 blocking tight blocking tight end and it wasn't he wasn't 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.960 really a big part of the passing attack. Well, if 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.880 that's kind of was your role for him, then that's 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.120 not really where you draft that at. And but I 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.960 think that there will be an expanded role for him 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.880 going forward. I hope so. And I hope Tank Biggs 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.160 biggs By gains confidence because what we saw in training 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.920 camp last year, and not just me, but the coaches 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.360 and all of his teammates were very excited about his production. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.480 And then things didn't happen very very good at the 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.400 beginning of the year, and then I think the confidence 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.400 from him and then also from the coaching staff waned, 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.800 and then it's hard to kind of get back up. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.840 And once you kind of get in a so called slump. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.440 And running back is one of those positions you need 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.000 the ball right to be able to do something. So 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.440 he wasn't getting a ton of carries either. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.480 Well yeah, I mean also, but you know. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.400 Got to earn it. I get it. It's tough. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.200 It's one of those things where, Okay, you handle the 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.680 ball a few times, then you want to see some 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.160 production when you give it to him a few times. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.880 And if you looked at last year, they handed it 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.840 to him a few times and there were some plays 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.200 that didn't go so well. So now the coach's confidence 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.480 wanes a little bit, and then all of a sudden, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.200 the opportunity starts to drop. And then when he has 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.600 the opportunities in the future, then I think you could 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.200 kind of see that he was pressing because he wanted 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.040 to make up for maybe the mistakes that he made 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.760 or didn't want to mess up. And then so when 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.520 you get in that situation, I don't think it's good 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.360 for anybody. And I think he'll be better in year 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.280 two because I mean, look, he's been a good football 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.960 player before, and good football players just don't all of 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.280 a sudden just lose it. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.800 Yeah, and he's played, you know, he was at Auburn. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.000 There was tough situations there. He never transferred out, he 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.040 stayed there, battle through. He's got the mentality for it. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:18.200 So I'm hoping to see the same thing. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.600 He'll be fine, He'll be fine. But I'm looking forward 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:24.080 to seeing what his production is this year. And in 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.080 Breton Strange, I want to I want to see him 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.440 with a similar role but also a different role because 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.080 he's a really good blocker. But I want to see 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.880 him get the ball at times because. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.320 We least see if he can, like we got to 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.960 know he's got some talent. All Right, We're here on 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.080 Happy Hour presented by Saint John's River Water Management Districts. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.560 Coming up after the break, we're going to hear from 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.160 new defensive lineman Eric Armstead what he has to say 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.360 what he thinks he brings to the mix here on 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:48.320 Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.399 The Jags were a good team before me. And you know, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.880 whenever I enter a situation, you know, not just football, 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.720 but in life in general, and when I meet people, 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.520 when i'm you know, enter a situation working with people, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.120 you know, I want to make the place better than 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.600 what I founded. I want to make a positive impact one. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.520 So I think this team was already. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.120 A phenomenal team, and I think I can help get 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.280 them to the next level. So having that opportunity is 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:31.760 something I look forward to as well. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.920 Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Our Ka, Nannie Stephens, Jeff 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.240 Logerman in JP is off today. We're brought to you 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.000 by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's water 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.720 It's worth saving. Eric Armstead, the newest addition to the 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.920 defensive line, saying all the right things he does bring 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.159 that veteran presence. We talked a little bit about battling 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.640 through that injury, but if he is healthy and when 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.120 he returns he's healthy, that could be something to kind 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.520 of see what he's able to do on that line. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.080 We talked about needing more and just stronger, bigger guys 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.160 on both sides of the line. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.960 Yeah. I thought was the most important thing for this 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.399