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Speaker 1: All right, welcome o wow to Patriots Unfiltered. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to talk much. I tapped my first KEG. Now

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Speaker 1: you would think, Brett, you went to college. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: this is a real case. So you're saying in college

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Speaker 1: when I many times just kind of pushing twist that

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Speaker 1: never even did that. He just showed up by people,

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Speaker 1: I got so mad I had to blog about it,

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Speaker 1: saying Mac isn't the guy and that he's over Max.

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Speaker 1: So you get mad, though, Chad get mad. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the opinions that you want. That's difference

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Speaker 1: between you and Fred. Fred just reads them without bias.

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Speaker 1: He just reads the emails. Am I allowed to call

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Speaker 1: out other PU listeners slash callers? If so, I would

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Speaker 1: like to call out Todd and North Carolina for being

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Speaker 1: a fraud. A week or two ago, you called him

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Speaker 1: out for all the background noise when he called into

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Todd and North Carolina. Todd, if you

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Speaker 1: that was well done. My friend is Patriot's Unfiltered fueled

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Speaker 1: by Dunking. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is

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Speaker 1: Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium, and uh, it's Deuce, it's Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's me, it's Matt Evan will be by later. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well a lot of visitors today, A lot of visitors. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, Andy round, maybe we get Wednesday

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Speaker 1: shows must listen, that's the thousands. You never know, who's

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Speaker 1: ever know who's gonna come in. What kind of Wednesdays

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Speaker 1: Wednesday Fun Day flashback with Andy will film talk with

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Speaker 1: we'll see everybody's at Bill right now, so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they'll be trickling. I got my voice back. That was

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Speaker 1: most tough listening to that, U rejoiner. It wasn't a rejoiner,

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Speaker 1: I'm learning the lingo. So while Bill is in the

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Speaker 1: to be in a decent mood. Jets of the Jets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that people are taking this one seriously. But biggest,

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Speaker 1: think this is the biggest game here since since that

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know now that you say you

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Speaker 1: I think a coach can only do so much. I'll

425
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Speaker 1: give an example. You know, it's we know for I

426
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Speaker 1: know for a fact that Bill has like stood up

427
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Speaker 1: in front of the team when they're playing a certain

428
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Speaker 1: other opponent and say, you know, okay, the offensive coordinators,

429
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Speaker 1: this guy he learned his offense from it. He gives

430
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Speaker 1: them like a history lesson. So there was a day where, um,

431
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Speaker 1: I think Brady was about to or had just broke

432
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Speaker 1: a record that Babe Parilli had. You know, Babe Parilli

433
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: was an old time So we flew in Baye Perilli

434
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Speaker 1: was living in Colorado to meet Brady, you know, because

435
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Speaker 1: Brady just broke his record. So I was to meet

436
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Speaker 1: Brady off the practice field and walk him into the

437
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Speaker 1: visiting locker room where they had it set up where

438
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Speaker 1: he's going to meet Babe Parley. Some walk up with Brady,

439
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Speaker 1: He's like, okay, so what kind of offense did he run?

440
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Speaker 1: And I look, I don't know, but those he wonderful

441
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Speaker 1: after you kissed. He wanted to know all that information

442
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Speaker 1: about Babe Parilli before he met him. I know he

443
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: got that from from Bill, the type of you know, yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: be prepared, Yeah, I don't know who you're meeting with.

445
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: The conversation starter absolutely, But I mean, I mean, I

446
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Speaker 1: think the most recent example was when they went to

447
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Speaker 1: Green Bay and and you know, you got the history lesson,

448
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, and those things. Sometimes I

449
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: feel like it's is there really a lot of value

450
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Speaker 1: to that, like you know, like, did we really just

451
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Speaker 1: spend a half hour talker? I mean, I appreciate that,

452
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: and that you know it he's passing that along to

453
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Speaker 1: another generation, especially of kids that you know, at this

454
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Speaker 1: point half my age and you know, our it might

455
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Speaker 1: not have a sense of those kind of things. So,

456
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Speaker 1: M I don't know, it's just it's interesting. I think

457
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Speaker 1: he's an excellent coach. But but you know, trying to

458
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Speaker 1: parse it out of like anyone saying that it's more

459
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Speaker 1: him than Brady, Like that's it's hard to make that

460
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Speaker 1: in any situation with a coach and a quarterback, Like

461
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Speaker 1: I don't think I could argue a high school team

462
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: would be you know, it's all the coach, Like it's

463
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, you got to have guys to execute the

464
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Speaker 1: end of the day. But but I can still really

465
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Speaker 1: admire him as a coach and think he's great. And

466
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Speaker 1: but I'm not sitting here trying to tell you that.

467
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Speaker 1: I mean we've seen the results, you know, right all right,

468
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Speaker 1: and the fact that he could keep it together. I've

469
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Speaker 1: often said this, you know, we see the teams that

470
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Speaker 1: win and then they can't consistently win, they can't keep

471
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Speaker 1: it going, you know, Um, it's rare. Like the Steelers

472
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Speaker 1: are a good example of a team that has been

473
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Speaker 1: able to do that. You know, they they don't win

474
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Speaker 1: it every year like the Patriots were doing every other year,

475
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Speaker 1: but they're always in it. You know, they're always competitive,

476
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Speaker 1: they're always strong, um, you know, And that to me,

477
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: that's you know, Bill's organization. The way he kept this

478
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Speaker 1: team together during the dynasty for twenty years. You know

479
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Speaker 1: what it's like, Well, they had that one gap where

480
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Speaker 1: they hadn't won in ten years, but they got to

481
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl twice. That was still winning. That was

482
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Speaker 1: twenty years of winning and being right right every year

483
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: they were a factor, you know, And that's that's that's

484
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: the hardest thing in this league. It's because guys getting

485
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Speaker 1: entitled and you know, it's hard to keep it together.

486
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Speaker 1: And he was able to do that. Yeah, I think it.

487
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Speaker 1: And that goes to another part of his coaching philosophy

488
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Speaker 1: that I just I really admire, just you know, more

489
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Speaker 1: than a coaching philosophy, just as like the short term

490
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Speaker 1: focus and you know, I think that that kind of

491
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Speaker 1: mantra that he's kind of consistently had of you know,

492
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Speaker 1: just like today where how do you feel about three

493
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Speaker 1: games in twelve that were on the jets. I mean,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, I know it's become kind of a cliche

495
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Speaker 1: that we're just you know, focusing on the next opponent.

496
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Speaker 1: But I think he really lives that. I think he

497
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Speaker 1: lives the moment, he lives the day. Um, And I

498
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Speaker 1: think that short short term focus has been you know,

499
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Speaker 1: key part of teams not getting complacent, not relying on

500
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Speaker 1: past successes, those kind of things where, um, you know,

501
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: he was able to continually put together competitive teams. And

502
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Speaker 1: I think just what's kind of distressing of recent years

503
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Speaker 1: is just some of the bad football that's popped up,

504
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Speaker 1: the turnovers this year, Like those are the things that like, okay,

505
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Speaker 1: that that's not acceptable to me as far as like

506
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Speaker 1: from a coaching standpoint, when your team is continually loose

507
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Speaker 1: with the football and you're down near the bottom, like

508
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: to me that that's a bad sign. So they got

509
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Speaker 1: to turn that stuff around immediately and huge key going forward. Yep,

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Speaker 1: all right. I eight five five past five hundred is

511
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Speaker 1: the a sticket hutline eight five five pats five hundred

512
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Speaker 1: Web radio at pages dot com is the email address.

513
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Speaker 1: Got emails coming in, We're gonna have guests coming in,

514
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Speaker 1: you know who knows who Ever? Wednesday is what do

515
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Speaker 1: we call? What we should have a name for Wednesday shows?

516
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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen Wednesdays? Something like, you know, the the

517
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Speaker 1: who Who's gonna pop in? Show? Or the pop in

518
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Speaker 1: Show or so I don't know show, I don't know,

519
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Speaker 1: we don't know. Nobody's even popped in your popping show.

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Speaker 1: M m H. Todd's in North Carolina on the A

521
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Speaker 1: sticket huntline. What's up? Todd? Walk in Wednesdays? Walk in Wednesdays?

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Speaker 1: Bad's not bad, not bad bad. So my question is,

523
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Speaker 1: if our defense can get two turnovers and the offense

524
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Speaker 1: scores between twenty four and twenty eight points, can we

525
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Speaker 1: beat the Jet? Yes? Probably? So what we need going

526
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Speaker 1: on is what two turnovers a game roughly from our

527
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Speaker 1: defense to be able to get a positive thing. Is

528
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Speaker 1: that what we're looking at, and one or none from

529
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Speaker 1: our offense that would be that would be the cant

530
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Speaker 1: plus two in the turnover plus two in the turnover.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible? Of course it is? Every game? Probably not. Yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: that's you don't want to go into every game saying

533
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Speaker 1: we've got to be plus two today to win, right,

534
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: that's not that's not a good formula. Yeah, you go

535
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Speaker 1: into a game assuming there aren't going to be any turnovers.

536
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Speaker 1: That's how your game plan for and if you they happen,

537
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: they happen. You know, that was the famous with Micaelholod Right. Oh, yeah,

538
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: you always assume that team plays well, right, Yeah. They

539
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: usually have five or six games a year that they

540
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Speaker 1: have no turnovers, and they have yet to have one

541
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Speaker 1: this year. So, um, last year they only had four.

542
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: But going back a few years, I mean it's just

543
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, they've had turnovers in every single game. So

544
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: and that doesn't even count the ones that don't turn

545
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Speaker 1: out to be turnovers, you know, the drop one turnovers

546
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Speaker 1: the game for the rest of the year. What is there,

547
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Speaker 1: What is their record for the rest of the season.

548
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Speaker 1: I mean, they might win. I'm with Fred, like, how

549
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: many times do the Patriots turn it over? Yeah? I

550
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: get so, you know, get just one. But Mike just

551
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: told you that they've turned it over in every game.

552
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Speaker 1: So if you're getting too when you're giving two, probably

553
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Speaker 1: probably four and four, you know, Yeah, that's what I

554
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Speaker 1: was thinking. Okay, all right, but if you're forcing two

555
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: and you're plus two every game, you have a good

556
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Speaker 1: chance to be like seven and one, right, But that's

557
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: not the way you want to live, you know, hoping

558
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Speaker 1: for turnovers and thinking that that's how you win. That's

559
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: not how you win. You know, you win by just

560
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: being better than the other team on that day. Plus,

561
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: I think there's like style points to the turnovers they've

562
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: had this year that they're they're bad. They're not like

563
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: punched out from behind, you know, bad decisions ball security,

564
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: just questionable decisions, which, as you said, some of those

565
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: didn't even cost you because they dropped those interceptions. But

566
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: you know you can you can live with them when

567
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: they're deflections or you know, you didn't see the guy

568
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: coming he got sacked and fumbled it. But you know,

569
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Speaker 1: I just think there'd been too many here where there's

570
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: been bad situations, especially like the Agalore one, when you

571
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: think if you have a chance to come back, the

572
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Speaker 1: team's got some momentum all of a sudden in your

573
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Speaker 1: mart you know, you give it right back to them.

574
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Speaker 1: It's just those kind of things just they kill you,

575
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: right Michael from bar Vermont, Right soon? How early does

576
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Bill have the boys on the field for practice? And

577
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Speaker 1: does Bill also have the boys practice in the snow

578
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: and rain? Of course, Yeah, yeah, there's there was once

579
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Speaker 1: or twice. I remember big snowstorm that they didn't they

580
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: didn't practice outside. That was like, well, it was just yeah,

581
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean it. Yeah, yeah, they I've seen them do

582
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: that both ways. And I think a lot of times

583
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: it's depended on where that game is going to be

584
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Speaker 1: that particular week. You know, if they're playing in Foxborough

585
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Speaker 1: and it's snowing out, they're probably gonna practice outside. If

586
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Speaker 1: they're playing in Minnesota and it's snowing out, you know,

587
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: there's a chance they might go inside. They're not necessarily

588
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: preparing for that. Yeah. Um. In terms of time, they

589
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: generally practice around noon, you know. Yeah, I think they're

590
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: what do we have, right, I think they were twelve

591
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: forty today? What it was players go out on They

592
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: all kind of trickle out on their own, right. Yeah.

593
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: In terms of how how much before practice they're on

594
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: the field, and I think there's a there's a horn

595
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: that goes off and they have to be ready to

596
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: go when that horn goes off. So I think it's

597
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: up to the individual player. Yeah. Every now and then

598
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: you'll see somebody, you know, chogging out, not late, but

599
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: like towards the end. Trying to know. It's funny. Over time,

600
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: they've done it different ways, like they've kind of settled

601
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: into like new niche now. But I remember there was

602
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: a time where they practiced toward the end of the

603
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: day and then open locker room. You know, they'd be

604
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Speaker 1: coming in with their pads and they'd just practice. And

605
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: then I remember they used to do it in the morning.

606
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: You know, they have done at different times, different time

607
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Speaker 1: of the day. I mean, this seems to make sense

608
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: to me, lining it up with kind of your start time.

609
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I know sometimes teams adjust their practice times

610
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: when they're off schedule a little bit, or playing night

611
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: games and things of that. I mean, we've had so

612
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: many one o'clock games, so maybe you know, but you know,

613
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: we've got a brutal stretch coming in after this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in my four years, I think it's always when you're

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Speaker 1: on a regular week, it's always been kind of in

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Speaker 1: the middle. I don't ever, I mean, unless it was

617
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: just a weird yeah, I know they've they've settled into

618
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: the middle of the day since you've been here. But friends,

619
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Speaker 1: going back twenty five years, like they've done Paul Brown.

620
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: They've done it all kinds of different ways. That fourth

621
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of ground swell for moving

622
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Speaker 1: that fourth primetime game. That's the only one that can

623
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: call the Vegas one. Vegas one is the only one

624
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: that can get moved. Yeah. Um, I know that. They

625
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: were talking about a little bit with Mike Greece on

626
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: the Sports Hub yesterday, sort of throwing a couple of

627
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: games out there is potential games that could get Please

628
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Speaker 1: God move right, all right, who am I game? You're ready? Yeah? Uh?

629
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Speaker 1: Neil from Warwick sends it in. Uh. He doesn't have

630
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: a criteria as to like if they're all Patriots or

631
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: but let me look at the answers. Um, yes they're

632
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Speaker 1: all Patriots, all right ready right. My first name is

633
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Speaker 1: one of Paul's favorite groups, Earthwin Mold. Yeah that was

634
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Speaker 1: That was wow. I just made up for the next one.

635
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: My first and last name have the same letter. Okay,

636
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: less Welker, Nope, you're out. But I like the bold,

637
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: just like the bold nature of the guest. I also

638
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: played two positions. I have a Super Bowl ring, but

639
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: not with the Patriots. Wow. And finally I went to

640
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: the Ohio State. I'll add it is one of uh

641
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Bill's favorites. I think at one point like he liked

642
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: this guy. Mhm, Tom Tupah. How Bill's gonna tell him

643
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: what hint was wrong? Um? I would never I would

644
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: never have gotten that. But I who did he win

645
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with Tom Tupa? He's a round forever.

646
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't know to check. I mean that I wouldn't

647
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: have That's not why I didn't get it. I never

648
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: would have gotten the Jets. Yeah, we know he didn't

649
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: get it with the Jets Cleveland. Yeah, uh do so

650
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: look that up. Next one is I would a first

651
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: round draft pick from Tamara's school. First round West Virginia, right, No,

652
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech. Is that Eugene Chung? That's correct?

653
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: Ding Ding Ding? You go two more. I feel like

654
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm redeeming myself. Tampa he went with he was with Tampa.

655
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Did not know that? Like Tupa, I have the same

656
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: letter as my first and last name. Okay. I went

657
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: to the same school as Khalil Mack, who I don't

658
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: know anyone else that went to Buffalo. I played on

659
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: the old line and that's it. Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeh,

660
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: ed Ellis, I don't know, you know what I do?

661
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: Remember that ed Ellis went to Buffalo? Yeah, final one? Yeah, good,

662
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: that's a good one. My first name is an Organ Liver.

663
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: I was the last first round pick made by Raymond

664
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: bar I was the last Hartley did football card. Heartless.

665
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: He's one that could have been good. One of my

666
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: all time great interviews with Steve Grogan. Ye and remember

667
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: the old Digital Gold Club Freddie Yes with cyber sidelines. Yeah.

668
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: Um so I sit with Steve Grogan and we're asking

669
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: all kinds of questions you know about his career and

670
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: any you know, some of your most fond teammates, any

671
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: any guys that you'd played with that you didn't particularly like. No,

672
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I really can't. That's a lie. Hartley Dikes like he

673
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: stopped in the middle of a sentence, Right in the

674
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: middle of a sentence. He's like, no, No, Hartley Dikes

675
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: would be one. Didn't he like break his knee cap

676
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: or something? He did? He had a very serious I think, yeah,

677
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: fractured patella something like that. Yeah, very serious knee and

678
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: he's heartlessly he broke his knee. Oh no, but I

679
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: think he had some issues before that. Um, yeah, he

680
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: was not well liked evidently, according to Grogs, Calvin and

681
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: Denver says, Deuce, I'm one hundred percent with you on

682
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: the not liking Stefan Diggs. He's a great talent, but

683
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: acts like one big a hole. Last season at home

684
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: against the Bills, he went around to the fans screaming

685
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: smd Yeah, what does that mean? What do you think

686
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: to save my drink? Oh? I know, and I think

687
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: that I think that is uncalled for. Also agree with you, Deuce,

688
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: with the mac tantrum super annoying and uncalled for. If

689
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: after this season the Patriots were to get rid of

690
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: any wide receiver, who do you think it would be?

691
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: I personally think it would be Born, Although I don't

692
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: want him to go. The Patriots should then look into

693
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: getting a guy like Curtis Samuel. He could be a

694
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: good wide receiver. Binkie for whoever the quarterback next year

695
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: will be, and I think he would love playing closer

696
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: to home, being from Brooklyn, New York. Okay, the Jets maybe,

697
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: but I really wonder what they're gonna do. I wonder

698
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: about Jacobe Myers. I wonder if they don't retain Jacobe Myers.

699
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: What the reaction with Mac is gonna be? Uh, you know,

700
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Nelson Agil are probably as good as gone. So are

701
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: you gonna You're gonna get rid of Born too? And

702
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: then you just have h you know, Parker and Thornton

703
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: as your two receivers. I don't know. I think they

704
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of decisions to make a receiver. They

705
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: need to get better. I'd love to see Thornton. I'd

706
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: love to see Myers come back, but I still think

707
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: they need to add, you know, another rookie. But I

708
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: don't know how I'd be surprised if they just got

709
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: rid of Born. I think he's still kind of manageable,

710
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: and you just you don't have the numbers. I mean

711
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: he's been okay. Like I just I can't blow the

712
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: whole position up because nobody's really had a chance this year. Yeah,

713
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: Anthony from Delaware catching up on pass shows and gotta

714
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: say Andy's cameos have been have me pitching a tent

715
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: a little smaller than Paul's little pole. Get ready. I

716
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: wish Andy was back on the show and Evan and

717
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: Andy argument would clear three f bombs a show. Yeah,

718
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: carried over from social media questions since the Big Man

719
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: was at Germany last weekend. Something that Sauce Gardner said

720
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: about the Packers last week was interesting to me. He said,

721
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: the Packers, as the home team an international game, could

722
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: have had a bye week or chose their opponent. They

723
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: chose the Jets. Has this been common practice during international games?

724
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Does that mean after the Mexico game we picked Miami

725
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: or is this new? I don't know. I don't Yeah,

726
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't have any information in that. I don't really

727
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: know if Paul still has this little pole going put

728
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: me down for mac even though I am not a

729
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: fan of his, of his predraft. Okay, all right, your

730
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: little poles. You my little pole's been retired. We'll revisit

731
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: it in training camp. Then he Anthony email back said

732
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: never mind the last part of the email. I see

733
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: that the Raiders were the home team and faced the

734
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: Broncos the next game. So I was just having some fun,

735
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: because you know, I like these things like intrigue me.

736
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: The Curtis Samuel Will thing close at home. Yeah, it's

737
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty nine miles from Washington to Brooklyn.

738
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: It's two hundred and fifteen from from Boston to you

739
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: those So he's right a little close up. I like that.

740
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: I like the name though, I mean, I like the

741
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: I like I like Curtis Samuel. I like him as

742
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: a player. I think he's I think he's a Belichick

743
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Like the versatility of being used out

744
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: of the backfield and as a strict wide receiver, you know.

745
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: I like those kinds of players have always sort of

746
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: intrigued Belichick. Um jacket and Abah. Matt Jones cannot be

747
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: fairly evaluated until the Patriots provide him with a competent

748
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: offensive line, which they have not done yet this season.

749
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: Given the likely departure of Isaiah Wyn in free agency,

750
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: and given that Yadney could Uice has not yet demonstrated

751
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: that he is a starting level of NFL tackle, the

752
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: Patriots will likely enter the draft next needing a right tackle.

753
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: Can the Patriots afford not to draft to tackle in

754
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: the first round of the next draft, given that they

755
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: are going to need a plug and play tackle who

756
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: will become the starter on Day one? I think that's uh,

757
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: that's a great question. It is a great question. But

758
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: so i'd like to you're just dropping off another year

759
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: because they won't have a great offensive line next year

760
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: then either because you're gonna lose more players. Like, at

761
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: some point, you gotta just do it. Yeah, yeah, they

762
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: gotta do it. They got they gotta draft to tackle.

763
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's what we're talking about now,

764
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: receiver or tackle and what you know, it's a chicken

765
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: or the egg. What can fix the paper? It's like

766
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, there are a lot of reasons.

767
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: There are a lot of external factors that I think

768
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: are mitigating factors with Mac Jones's second year dip here um,

769
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: and they're in they're valid, But at some point you

770
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: just have to play. Like Joe Burrow had among the

771
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: worst protection protecting offensive lines that you'll ever see in football,

772
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: and he found a way to get his team to

773
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Is you know, like a lot of

774
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: people tell you what's the difference between Joe Burrow and

775
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Right, I mean, I personally see a lot

776
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: of differences, But some other people, you know, snap back

777
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: at are cut from a similar clause, right, So and

778
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: I and I understand, Okay, they went out and got

779
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. They got so you're gonna get a tackle

780
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: in the first round. So then you're gonna have the

781
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: excuse that while you lost Jakobe Myers and you lost

782
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: Nelson Agalore and you know, maybe they let go of

783
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: Kendrick Borne and DeVante Parker. Now what do you got?

784
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: Just Tae Kwon Thornton and that's it. And you know,

785
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: like you see, like this pattern is establishing. And I

786
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: talked about this all during the off season. No matter

787
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: what happens, it will not be blamed on him. It's

788
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: gonna be blamed on the structure and the coaching. And

789
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a factor. I don't think it made

790
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: any sense to do it the way that they decided

791
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: to do it. But at some point he's got to

792
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: play better too. Some of this has got to be

793
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, I think, uh, because nothing you've we've

794
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: seen so far where you can say Max's playing well,

795
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: it's just everybody else isn't around him. You can't say that,

796
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: you know where you know, take a guy like Dan Marino,

797
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: like even you know, like you knew he was good

798
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: by just looking at him, you know, and he never

799
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl, but you know he was great,

800
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. But like like Mac hasn't shown that. Wow,

801
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: that you know, it's obvious he's really good, you know,

802
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: even if and I like Mac, I'm happy he's our quarterback,

803
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: but like, I don't see that talent that can overcome

804
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: you know things. I think that's what you're realizing this

805
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: year is that, I mean I always knew. Look, he's

806
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: not gonna be a world beater as far as arm

807
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: strength or size or you know, ability to run. We

808
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: knew he was limited coming in. I think last year

809
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: gave you the at least the belief that, yes, he's limited,

810
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: but he can make it work. Like he's smart enough,

811
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: he's accurate enough, he can process quick enough that he

812
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: can get around it. And you know, I mean I

813
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: think those things are we was talking about Brady like

814
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: no one ever sacks him because he gets the ball

815
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: out so quick, you know. And I think like the

816
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: hope was that Mac would get to a level where

817
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: some of the protection issues could maybe be mitigated because

818
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: he's you know, has good ability in the pocket. And

819
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: I think this year has shown you like how much

820
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: how perfect does it really have to be? I mean,

821
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: how narrow of a path do we have to walk

822
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: with Mac? Uh? The other thing I would just say

823
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: is like I just I get I'd get an offensive

824
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: line coach. I would maybe tap free agency with the

825
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: offensive line. And I think, to Paul's point, you gotta

826
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: get the receipt you gotta get the weapons in the draft.

827
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: You gotta get the weapons early so that they're around.

828
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: You don't know how long you're gonna have them. You

829
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: might not even have them for the full you know,

830
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: full contract as we're seeing with like A J. Brown

831
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: guys like that. I think that's that's how you do it.

832
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Drafted one in the first round. It feels like I

833
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: don't think it's really going to fix anything. Like it

834
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: might make you feel good that, hey we got a

835
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: right tackle for the next four years, but like right tackle,

836
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: I mean, we see it now, I've done we see

837
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: it now. Where you know, teams are drafting these receivers

838
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: early and they're making big impacts right away, you know,

839
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: like right away. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I just I just thought,

840
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: does any need a theme song? Do we do? We

841
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: do we tap the girl the ladies for a you know,

842
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: a return from practically happen. It's just an on your

843
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: own time. Are you not getting any sleep? You look

844
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: really tired. I'm always tired. Why work hard, Fred, you

845
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: work hards business. I've chosen Andy Hart's there from w

846
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: E I and the Six Rings podcast. Is you were

847
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: wondering where you went? The Six Rings podcast and the

848
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: post game show? Right? Yes, the Six Rings post game show.

849
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: Tune in Sunday afternoon. Patriots Jets? Did they get fourteen

850
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: in a row? Would be tough? Fourteen in a row?

851
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: What over the Jets home? So you don't I know?

852
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Do you not read releases like bullet points time? I

853
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: don't read the releases. I don't either, but I knew

854
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: that I happen to know that one broke the biggest

855
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: game since twenty ten playoffs against the Jets here. Oh yeah,

856
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: huge on so many levels for both teams. Playoffs also sneaky.

857
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: Huge for the quarterback narrative of last year's draft. Justin

858
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Fields already jumped past you by whooping your ass if

859
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson whoops your ast as he jumped past you too.

860
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: Bill mentioned that he expects he expects the Jets to

861
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: have some wrinkles for the Patriots, and the Patriots will

862
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: have some wrinkles for them. What wrinkles could the Patriots

863
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: have for the Jets? Andy Hart Wrinkles Well, one of

864
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: our callers to the postgame show, very specific wanted John

865
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: Ousmith in the eye formation in the backfield more often,

866
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, what are we doing here? Well,

867
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: that's you know, worse for me and Madden's when you

868
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: don't have a fullback and that should cut right to

869
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: your corn when you're relegated to Siberia. That's the kind

870
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: of calls he gets, All Right, you don't have to

871
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: be mean, Jesus. Um, I think it's a great question. Fred,

872
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: I actually think it's a great question, because I don't

873
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: Bill was asked about it. I don't know if you

874
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: guys listened to the end of his press conference. He

875
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: was asked, Dow, I'm pointing down the hall. I thought

876
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: you were doing a d I'm doing the mic Reas

877
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: stand up or he points to the practice out here.

878
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: David Inn returned to action Um, like, can you make

879
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: dramatic changes in a week? They had like one extra practice,

880
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: like just a bunch of stuff, and Bill typical, Bill goes,

881
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: if you want to make big changes, gonna make big changes.

882
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: You want to make little changes. A little change depends

883
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: what you think you need to do. Do they think

884
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: they need big changes, is the first question in my mind, Like, okay,

885
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: so I'll go back before the buy um. They told,

886
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, they had that typical time for self scouting.

887
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: What are the things you're gonna be looking at? And

888
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: he says, well, we'll be making some scheme adjustments. Yeah,

889
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, but what does that mean? I don't know.

890
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we already dropped the zone running right. What

891
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: else are we gonna drop that you instituted in August

892
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: that you need to fix in November. It feels like

893
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: a step back reset to me, more than a step forward,

894
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: a new twists installed kind of thing. Like this seems

895
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: like get right, stop turning the ball over, like, hey,

896
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: you guys block better. Hey you throw it to your

897
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: color jersey not the other. Hey you get open a

898
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: little more often a team on three. I really do

899
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: think it feels like it's so cliche, like do your job.

900
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: It felt like to me like coach speak. Yes, just

901
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: we have to play better, we have to execute better. Now,

902
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: are there issues with play calls? I'm sure there are, yeah,

903
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: but that's not the I don't think that's the be

904
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: all end to protect the football. But I think it

905
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: starts with the line, and I don't know if that's

906
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: fixable day Andrews save us. Yeah, that's a good step forward, right,

907
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: Like Bill was quick to say, like I thought James

908
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: did a good job and he was out there, but

909
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: you're better with David Andrews on the field. James farens

910
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Is he's a four A player, Like he's a good backup,

911
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: but you don't really want him playing significant reps. And

912
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: now whether that's the excuse for your first round left

913
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: guard because a lot of people are saying that's you

914
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: know why his play dipped because the guy, well, then

915
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: how good is he? He's got to rely on the

916
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: guy next to him to tell him what to do. Like, no,

917
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: that's your first he should be better, but you need

918
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: to feed Isaiah Win. I don't know where he plays.

919
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: One thing we did learn today is Mike on Win

920
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: was a guard. Yeah. Bill likes Mike on Win It

921
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: skills his build, he's a guard. So if you thought, yeah,

922
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: if you thought, because I know some people were speculating

923
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: maybe Isaiah Win at guard and move on out like

924
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: Bill seems to like on win It at guard. So

925
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: when I assume as your right tackle and then you

926
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: get Andrews back. So that I think means Cole Strange

927
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: has to be your left guard because I don't really

928
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: want Farn's at left guard. Or there was the other guy,

929
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: Chason Hines or whatever his name, iss I all right

930
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: now said whatever, who's the call up they had recently,

931
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: like Bill Murray and the Yeah, I certainly don't want

932
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman. We got major problems if the d

933
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: lineman is better than our first. So we had a

934
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: wrestler and he worked out at guard, you know, and

935
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: we drafted Tom three years later round. So let's just go.

936
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Let's play all the hits around here. We're the Raiders.

937
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: We're the team of the ages. We live in the past. Athletes, athletes. Wow,

938
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna let him talk like that. Yeah, no, but

939
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: it starts with the offensive line, because like we're going

940
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: back to what they started with and hoping I would hope.

941
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, and now some of that is also the coaching.

942
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, Billy Yates and Mattie Patricia, you guys got

943
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: to get Dante used to do it. You do it.

944
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: You guys were around Dante. Figure it out. Make them block.

945
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: But that'll make the passing game. That'll make the passing

946
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: game better. That'll make the like those Romandre Stevenson's two

947
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: yard law. There's like the very first play of the game,

948
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: how demoralized, completely right right right off the bat, like

949
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: that in the absolute nuts right off the bat, or

950
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: even the the punt, the block punt, first play on

951
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: the two yard line, Well we can run it from

952
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: the three now, we're fine. Like that is so demoral

953
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 1: It seems like a little thing, like in the course

954
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: of a game where you have seventy snaps and you're

955
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: gonna have hopefully hundreds of yards of offense to lose too,

956
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: no big deal, but it just felt like more than that,

957
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: and this team, it's a big deal. It is you

958
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: can't can't be behind the sticks? Off script, Paul, what

959
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: does that mean that football talk? We'll see they have

960
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: sticks and then you're behind you behind them. I means

961
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: you just have to make yards just to get more sticks,

962
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: let alone move them. What about my other idea? But

963
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: do you guys, you guys like the idea of Marcus

964
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: Jones on offense apparently not next topic. No, I hadn't

965
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: really given it any thought. But I don't need playmakers,

966
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: so I'm in don't you need playmakers guys. I mean,

967
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: I'd love to believe in it, but I just like

968
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: another guy that you can't get the ball too. You

969
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: can't but bubble screen. Get him into a buble screen.

970
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: He's a punt returner. So that's how the scheme change.

971
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: How about Marcus Jones on defense? Why don't week start there? Well,

972
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: but aren't we good on defense? No, but I think

973
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: he could always use depth there and he eventually he's

974
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to play out, I know, but they're good

975
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: on defense. Their secondary is actually displayed a little bit

976
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: of depth because they've stayed healthy and they've been out there. Now. Yeah,

977
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 1: like I think Marcus Jones just in theory as simple

978
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: as that. Throw him a bubble screen and say, beat

979
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: a couple of guys here. If we pick up seventeen yards,

980
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: don't it'll be the opposite of the two yard loss

981
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: on the run play. They'll be about, oh, oh we

982
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: got a little boost and now maybe we got remember

983
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: the Brandon LaFell drive starter days. I'm not saying Marcus

984
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Jones now catches eight balls a game for one hundred

985
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: and forty one play where I feel a little maybe

986
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: ignites something and maybe that gets Born feeling good and

987
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: then you and then maybe it's snowball. I do like it, Andy,

988
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: because I feel like, and I said on the show yesterday,

989
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: like I feel like they're missing that quick inside guy.

990
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: And I wonder if almost, like, do you think that

991
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: Lynn Boden thing last week was a flirtation with that

992
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: at all of that kind of player. I'm not saying

993
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: he was, but they didn't really do anything either. But

994
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I just think they're missing

995
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: the third down back and they're missing us a lot.

996
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: If you're looking for someone to just suddenly emerge in

997
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: the second half, it has to be like I think

998
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: he has to be the leading candidate Kendrick Bourne. Yes,

999
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, but why did I don't have a rational

1000
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: explanation as to why he has been, you know, an

1001
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: out non factor right in nine games, he's been a

1002
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: non fact. Has not been Deebo, Samuel Light. But if

1003
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: you tell me, But if you were going to say,

1004
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: lots of people the streets are talking Fred, well, first

1005
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: of all, he kind of started it by saying that

1006
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: that was kind of the way they wanted they wanted

1007
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: to use it, and people like you ran with it.

1008
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: I don't see. I got to give Fred credit on this.

1009
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: I said like him. I didn't say him people like him.

1010
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: But if if you were going to say they're gonna

1011
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: get and you know a significant contribution from either Kendrick Bourne,

1012
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: well Lynn Bowden or Marcus Jones offensively, what do you

1013
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: think is the better chance? It's it's got to be

1014
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: born start with the wide receiver. I've got to have

1015
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: said that coming into the year, but I wouldn't know

1016
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: the unseen reason he does nothing. I don't know either.

1017
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't have the answer for I don't like I can't.

1018
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: I can't accept the fact that they got mad at him,

1019
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: so he was a non factor for nine games like that.

1020
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: It is way more to it than that. I don't

1021
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: know what this same theories. So what was his former team?

1022
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Fortan Francisco. I think I'm glad Evan Lazars here because

1023
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: he might be able to fill in because this is

1024
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: just totally me pulling something out of my bung hole.

1025
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: Well that's what you do. So Kendrick Bourne's former team

1026
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: was the forty nine ers who let him go, right,

1027
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: you acquired him for Josh mcteam. Maybe he wasn't a

1028
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 1: fit for that offense. You wanted to become more forty

1029
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: nine ers like this year, and suddenly Kendrick Bourne doesn't fit.

1030
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: Am I connecting dots that are illogical or logical? Heaven?

1031
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: It's kind of a Felger fact. Everything you said is true,

1032
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily mean that all of it's true.

1033
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: Are you sure it's not true? No, I'm not sure, Victory.

1034
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: It's a Felger fact though, Yeah, I don't know, Like

1035
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: who's felder? He goes out on a route, like, how

1036
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: does he not fit? Just throw the ball to him.

1037
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand, what's that he's not open? But

1038
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: that's not true. I mean on a lot of your

1039
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: film study, we show that he is open. Yeah, there's

1040
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: some instances where he's open. That's fair, I think. But

1041
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: we're Max's eyes because his eyes, he where eyes. That's

1042
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: another point. That's I mean fair point. If he doesn't

1043
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: see him, then the tree falls in the wood. Nobody

1044
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: hears it. Yeah, one hand clap right and we're back

1045
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: to eye right. I think the biggest thing a lot

1046
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: of shots here, it's not inappropriate. I don't think you

1047
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: need to be smiling back there and gets I don't

1048
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: want you going on that show. It's not open. I

1049
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: don't want you playing with those kids anymore. They're bad anfluence.

1050
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, go ahead of he's not open. Well, I

1051
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: think that I should take back he's not open because

1052
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: Fred is right there are plays where he has been

1053
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: getting open. But I think the biggest issue this is

1054
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: sort of what where my brain is at now with

1055
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: ten days or so to digest this entire offense and

1056
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: what the issues are. I think the biggest thing that

1057
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: you look at is, Okay, last year they're running dig

1058
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: routes at eight to twelve yards. Now, all of a

1059
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: sudden I turn on the tape and it's a sixteen

1060
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: yard and cut and I'm just thinking to myself, well,

1061
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, like, why did we go away

1062
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: from the stuff that was working last year from this offense?

1063
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden I watched Kendrick Bourne

1064
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: and he's trying to cut his route off at sixteen

1065
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: yards down the field instead of eight to ten, eight

1066
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: to twelve, whatever you want to call it. And I

1067
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: just don't think that he's that guy. And I think

1068
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: this goes across the table with all their receivers outside

1069
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: of maybe Taekwon Thornton, and I guess Nelson Aglor when

1070
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: he plays is they got a bunch of singles and

1071
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: doubles hitters that they're trying to hit into forty you know,

1072
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: turn into forty home run guys. And it's kind of

1073
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: like you come into spring training and you know, you

1074
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: hit three hundred last year, just trying to hit for average,

1075
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: and then the coaches say to you, this year, we

1076
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: want you to hit forty dingers, like we do hear

1077
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: about that, like, and he says, you know what, we're

1078
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: more of a launch angle team now. Yeah, And you're like,

1079
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that's really me, and but hey, you're

1080
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: the coach. I'll do what you tell. And all of

1081
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's you know, July, and he's hitting two

1082
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: hundred with one hundred strikeouts, and everybody is like, well,

1083
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what happened. That guy told me to

1084
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: do it over there blame Yeah, yeah, and I need biceps.

1085
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: I talked to some of their receivers about it on Monday,

1086
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: because I went back and during the bye week, I

1087
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: had some extra time, and I looked at a lot

1088
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: of the cutups that I had from last year's passing

1089
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: offense and just went, Okay, this is that last year,

1090
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: this is this year, and tried almost like a side

1091
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: by side to kind of see the bigger picture of

1092
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: what the differences are. And a lot of the guys

1093
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: were saying, well, last year they'd walk the extra safety

1094
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: down and they play single high man to man on us,

1095
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: and nobody was afraid of us. Nobody worried about the

1096
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: outside passes and all these kinds of stuff. So we

1097
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: wanted to be more explosive. We wanted to be more

1098
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: of a on the outside. And it's it's cool to

1099
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: want things, but you're just that field to want that.

1100
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: That's not your like Jacobe Meyers. It it's not you

1101
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: getting down the field and trying to break out on

1102
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: a route that's you know, gonna hit twenty yards down

1103
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: the field. Kendrick Bourne clearing out the sideline for a route.

1104
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, that's not why they're here. And I would

1105
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: also say the tight ends same thing. You know, those

1106
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: guys are guys that are gonna win at the shorten

1107
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: and intermediate levels of the field as well or up

1108
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: the seams. If you want to get a little bit

1109
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: of a vertical element with them in the game. So

1110
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: the biggest thing coming off this buy for me is

1111
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: you tried this other thing for a long time, like

1112
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: going all the way back to the spring really, and

1113
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: as soon as the pads came on and as soon

1114
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: as there was a live pass rush in mac Jones's face,

1115
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: it's been a disaster. So you think there's any chance

1116
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: that I said it last weekend? He here's you tell

1117
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: me what you think? Okay? Any chance that Bill is

1118
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, saying yeah, I am collaborative and Matt and Joe,

1119
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: I listen to you and it's not working. So the

1120
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: scheme adjustment is we're going back to you know what

1121
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: we do best. I would yeah, why wouldn't you? Like,

1122
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't. I don't think Bill.

1123
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: I know people love to throw around like his ego

1124
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: and he's stubs and he'll never admit I don't think

1125
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: he is. I don't think he is either, yea, And

1126
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean to some degree, I think they've done it

1127
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: in the Running Game like they've If it works, we'll

1128
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: do it. If it doesn't work, we'll find something that

1129
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: does work. Like he said it so many We're not

1130
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: going to run the ball into a brick wall. We're

1131
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: not going to do these things, or you know, back

1132
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: in the three four four three, like the willingness to change,

1133
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: even though sure he's probably a three four guy if

1134
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: that's not the right thing for his person. He changed

1135
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: even over the last twenty years. That right, Yeah, So yes,

1136
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: I think he would now, and it doesn't seem to

1137
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: me that difficult. Like I know, Phil Perry asked Bill

1138
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: about dramatic changes, and like, I don't think it's that difficult.

1139
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I also think the offensive line would be like, oh yeah,

1140
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: if you guys are gonna run eight to twelve yards

1141
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: instead of sixteen, we'll be better too. We'll be And

1142
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: then Max says, I can trust those guys. We lived

1143
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: that last year and I felt comfortable with him. It's

1144
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: this year that I freaked out when people weren't open

1145
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: and I have to point and run and roll out

1146
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: and all those things. So yeah, I don't think it's

1147
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: that hard. Now. I'm guessing defenses will probably presume this too, like,

1148
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, if they're gonna make some changes, one of

1149
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: them might be getting back to what they did a

1150
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: year ago, so they may be ready for that. And

1151
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: then you get back to more personnel and can you

1152
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: run your battles. But but we know, as Evan said,

1153
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: we saw those work last year. We really haven't seen

1154
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: this year's version work. So if you're going to roll

1155
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: the dice in the second half to try to make

1156
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: a rundoad the playoffs rather than trusting the process as

1157
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: Mac used to say, or this faith based offense, how

1158
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: about we go back to a video based offense where

1159
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: I can put a clip on and say you did

1160
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: it last year to do it again. Yeah. I think

1161
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: that's that's spot on, because it would be one thing

1162
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: if we had seen the Baltimore game, for instance, was

1163
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: every week where there were flashes, but it just was inconsistent. Hint,

1164
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: And maybe we work through these problems and we get

1165
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: it to be more consistent. But I would also say

1166
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: that the big reason, the big knock on this style

1167
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: of offense, I always call it like the Bruce Arians

1168
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: offense because that's like basically what it is. The knock

1169
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: on It is always at it's volatile, like yes, you're

1170
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Jameis Winston. You're gonna have thirty touchdowns

1171
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: and thirty interceptions, Right, that's the style of the offense.

1172
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: So that's never been the Patriots. And that's what shocks

1173
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: me about this whole transition is that Bill Belichick has

1174
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: always been death by a thousand paper cuts, right, Like,

1175
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: that's always been his adage. That's always been who they've been.

1176
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: Outside of having Randy Moss in two thousand and seven,

1177
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: they've never been an air it out, you know, chuck

1178
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: and duck kind of offense. And now all of a sudden,

1179
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: that's the right thing to do. I'm gonna push back

1180
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: a little bit about it worked last year? Did it really? See?

1181
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: Are we talking about games where they ran up the

1182
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: score and it's skewed the numbers. But it works so

1183
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: regardless of it. But it didn't work right with you,

1184
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: it worked better than this, and right now you have

1185
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: to find what you do best. I'm not saying you're

1186
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: ready to win a shootout with the Bills or the Vikings.

1187
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, beat the Jets this week, Like, figure out

1188
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: a way to beat the Jets this week. And that's

1189
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: the probably wrestling with Bill is saying, you know, like,

1190
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: do I try to salvage this season? Yes? Or do

1191
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: I continue down this path because we have to fight

1192
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: through this and figure out how to be better offense.

1193
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: We're not ready to do that. I'm not telling you

1194
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: that that's wrong, okay, because that whole idea, the gap

1195
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: and like being a downfield team, Like can we put

1196
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: that like we agree that doesn't work, right, Like, they're

1197
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: not ready to do that. Whether it's Mac they align

1198
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: the receivers or everybody involved. I agree with everyway Evans analogy,

1199
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't think they have the pieces

1200
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: to do what they wanted to do. Yeah, it's it's

1201
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: post All Star breaks, So let's tell the three hundred

1202
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: hitter to just slap the ball into right field and

1203
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: get on base for me, right. I just think that,

1204
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, I posted on on Friday because this is,

1205
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, the degenerate that I am during the bye week.

1206
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm watching film. It's not like your counterpart who's watching

1207
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: The Raiders evidently said yes, like what, yeah, I mean,

1208
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm not quick. I don't put as much time into it.

1209
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: So they ran this play against Indie, which I thought

1210
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: perfectly exemplified all the issues that are going on with

1211
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: this offense, where it's it's an under center play action

1212
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: play seven step drop and they're trying to hit Taikwon

1213
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: Thornton on a deep over route like forty yards down

1214
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: the field and it's there, but the pockets not perfect,

1215
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: And I just don't think the quarterback right now has

1216
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: the confidence in his arm to hit it off platform,

1217
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: Like if he's not going to be able to step

1218
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: into it and put his whole body behind a forty

1219
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: yard throw, I don't think that he's got the confidence

1220
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: in it. And the other thing that he doesn't have

1221
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: the confidence in is that Tai Kwon is not out

1222
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: of his break yet, so that he has to anticipate

1223
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: that Tai Kwon and him are going to be on

1224
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: the same page. So when you drop a route like that,

1225
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: you have a landmark where you say, you know, hit

1226
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: the the thirty literally the thirty written on the field,

1227
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: like that's where I want you to run, and I'm

1228
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: just gonna punt it up to you and throw it

1229
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: deep to you and you're gonna run underneath it. If

1230
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: he had that kind of confidence that Taekwon was going

1231
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: to come out of the break and get to that landmark,

1232
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: then he couldn't let it go a little bit sooner.

1233
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: But instead he holds the ball. He holds the ball

1234
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: and the pocket collapses and he has to check it

1235
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: down to Johnny for like a two yard game. So

1236
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: on so many levels, the protection, the trust and the

1237
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: receivers or the routes that are being run by the receivers,

1238
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: the physical ability of the quarterback, like all these things

1239
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: are just not good enough to run this kind of offense.

1240
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: And then you're you know, your first and ten, you're

1241
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: running into a brick wall. Then you're second and ten

1242
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: and you're throwing play action incomplete. Now we're a third

1243
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: and nine, right, and it's like, yep, now what like

1244
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: that's that's been their offense for two weeks? Now, Yep.

1245
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: It's a tough way to live. Tough way to live.

1246
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: How will you live? John? Day by day? All right? Um, Paula,

1247
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: do you water food? I think Matt just went to

1248
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: get it. Oh good, Oh that's that's uh No, sucks

1249
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: back there, Um and you're gonna stop stay around for

1250
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, should I get nothing to do? Uh?

1251
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: Spiar Fresno says that was good on that When I

1252
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: let that one go? Fred with the ernest what does

1253
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: SMD mean? Instant classic? Jake Steele, You're a national treasure.

1254
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: Never shame absolutely. At least he didn't come after me this.

1255
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it meant. What does SMD mean?

1256
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: Thank you? Think about it for a second. If someone's

1257
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: yelling asked my yeah, yea yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm not down in the field to hear this. But

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Speaker 1: get that energy, says Big Digg's energy. Yeah, Big Digs energy.

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Speaker 1: H CJ in the Bay Area. I do think that

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Speaker 1: That part, I agree. Are we doing Brady Belichick again?

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Speaker 1: I think so we're talking are we bringing Brady back

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Speaker 1: Tom wouldn't be great without Bill. We made like those

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Speaker 1: at that shell station down next to Lucianos on one fred. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fill it up for gas. So I go in to

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Speaker 1: pay the cashier, this woman who's been there for I know.

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Speaker 1: I like to go in and pay prepay. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Why there, I just like it better. Oh oh, come,

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Speaker 1: don't get me on it. Don't get why just cap it?

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Speaker 1: It's just twenty bucks on or fill it up? No,

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Speaker 1: I usually put in a certain amount that at the pump.

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Speaker 1: I know you can Jerry Seinfeld from the commercial that

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Speaker 1: he did back in the day when he remember you

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Speaker 1: did that? Oh oh, and he pulled the credit card.

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Speaker 1: Apparently you don't all the way in there, all the way.

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Speaker 1: It's not like you're walking fifteen miles. I can't understand

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Speaker 1: if you didn't have a credit card, all you have

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Speaker 1: understand anyway, So I go into the store. It makes

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Speaker 1: no sense anyway I go into the spot is well,

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Speaker 1: stop it and let me finish the story. Why would

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Speaker 1: you go in? Oh, it's just such a hassle. It's

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Speaker 1: not a hassle. You're the laziest person I've ever known

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Speaker 1: that they did this at the I'm walking ten steps

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Speaker 1: I'll have this. It's such, it's for our convenience. Have

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Speaker 1: of places say pre go inside and pre pay before

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Speaker 1: you pump? A lot of places won't let you do

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Speaker 1: that thing at the pump. You know, where the hell

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Speaker 1: Still waiting for my Bridgestone tires to arrive in the mail?

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Speaker 1: I haven't done him yet the mail into yeah big boxes. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: Andy has left. He couldn't take it anymore Italy. But

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Speaker 1: Evan's still here. And uh, did you come from practice?

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Speaker 1: I did? When did we get to that? And so

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: what do We got almost perfect attendance for the Patriots

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Speaker 1: to Marcus Mitchell, the only player missing from the active

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Speaker 1: roster time Montgomery though reported just a few minutes. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you guys covered that that he is

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Speaker 1: not coming back. Jim McBride reporting he has done for

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Speaker 1: the year. Your shoulder surgery is what McBride said. So,

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Speaker 1: no time Montgomery this season. Yeah, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: him yesterday and we're like, yeah, it doesn't look good.

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Speaker 1: You know. Now there's a two year deal. He'll be

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Speaker 1: back next year. I mean he's on a contract with him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you talk about disappointments. I was

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Speaker 1: a little disappointed. I thought that he would be a

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Speaker 1: contributor this year, you know, because absolutely I thought he

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Speaker 1: looked the best of anybody running the wide zone and

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Speaker 1: training camp. He looked like the only guy who kind

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Speaker 1: of seemed to get it and was able to like

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Speaker 1: pick the hole. And you know, there are a couple

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Speaker 1: runs with him up up the sideline. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a spot they're missing. I mean, I love Ramander Stevenson,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're they're lacking that you know, third

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Speaker 1: down kind of scat back, kind of thing. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see what they do when Harris gets back. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I don't want to make a huge

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Speaker 1: deal out of time Montgomer being the savior of this

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Speaker 1: offense or anything like that. But for two years now

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Speaker 1: they haven't had the James White, Shane Vereen, Kevin fall type.

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Speaker 1: And Ramander has grown leaps and bounds in the passing game,

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Speaker 1: but that's just not his game. You know, He's a

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pound running back. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: break down at the top of the route and get

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Speaker 1: open on a linebacker on third and three and make

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Speaker 1: an easy throw for the quarterback. So I thought, especially

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Speaker 1: against the Colts, they got him isolated on Ocarecki. I

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Speaker 1: think it's how you pronounce it, Bobby Okarecki on the Colts,

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Speaker 1: who's an athletic player, but they had him isolated on

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Speaker 1: him a few times, and Mac wanted to go there,

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Speaker 1: but Reminder just couldn't get away from the coverage. So

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Speaker 1: I think that Montgomery, like kind of like Mike was saying,

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Speaker 1: and training camp, was by far, in a way, the

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Speaker 1: best receiving back that they had on the roster, and

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Speaker 1: he was making plays and making plays in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: so I think it would have been nice to have

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Speaker 1: somebody else, especially just to keep the pressure off of

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Speaker 1: Vermontre and allow him to play a little bit less. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get Harris back this week hopefully and get him

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Speaker 1: back in the mix. I also saw to Marcus Mitchell

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Speaker 1: that said Chris Mason reporting he's dealing with an illness.

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Speaker 1: So it's been going around Wednesday. Were they in pads, Yes,

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Speaker 1: they were. They were in pads for this time of year,

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Speaker 1: so they do. Mean, oh well they I don't always

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Speaker 1: think that they have leg pads on. They just have

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Speaker 1: the braces on on the lowers, but they have the

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Speaker 1: real shoulder pads. So there's there's going to be some

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Speaker 1: sort of you know, light contact or something like that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: tackling or anything. But yeah, I mean we saw that

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Speaker 1: out in camp all the time, where they don't actually

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Speaker 1: tackle guys to the ground, but they kind of play

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01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: too more physical, too hand touch you know out there today, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty windy. Um, it's certainly starting to feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know, second half of the season. Weather, you know

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Speaker 1: where we're going to start to have weather games and weather.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a factor. Today it was a

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Speaker 1: little chilly, windy, rainy, foggy, you know, just kind of

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Speaker 1: a gross day out there right now. So it didn't

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Speaker 1: look cold, but I think we're starting to trend towards

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Speaker 1: that time of year certainly where we might get into

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Speaker 1: some weather games here. How much of practice were you

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Speaker 1: allowed to see? We saw the very first period of

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Speaker 1: positional drills, so stretching and then a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a positional drills, So we did see a little bit

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Speaker 1: more than we've seen probably since before the bye last

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Speaker 1: week the one day they kicked us out really really quickly,

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Speaker 1: and then on Monday we got kicked out after stretching.

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Speaker 1: So today was the first time when we saw maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't know, ten minutes of practice start rainy weather though.

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Speaker 1: So during that ten minutes, what was the mood of

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Speaker 1: the team. The mood of the team is always the same.

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Speaker 1: Mood of the team never really changes too much, just work,

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Speaker 1: not annoyed. The mood of the of the media, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're look, it's it's starting to get chilly

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Speaker 1: out there, right and then you gotta stand out there,

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01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,520
Speaker 1: and you gotta get get your pen out and your

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Speaker 1: roster he out. You gotta get the roster from sulking,

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, and you stand there and you start checking

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Speaker 1: off names and then your hands get cold. So the

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Speaker 1: gloves are coming out soon, not not the boxing gloves,

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Speaker 1: the regular cloves, to make sure that you uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: your hands don't go don't go numb. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and m are there is already talk from the media

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01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: about the short week and you know, oh yeah, travel

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01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: playing three games in twelve days, a lot of rousing,

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: run the gauntlet, Thanksgiving on the road. You got a

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01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: right of a football or lives are so difficult? A

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01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: lot of harrump thing. Yeah, all right, all right, good stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's there's your practice report. Um lot going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got the emails coming in, so maybe we'll read some

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Speaker 1: of them. Read Pedro from Connecticut. He said, it's been

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Speaker 1: sometimes since I've emailed in. Hope you're feeling better, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, something you think COVID. I wanted all of

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on how important this game is. As of today,

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01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots are currently the last seed in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this game could make or break the season?

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01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: I feel the outcome will have big implications later in

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Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, I don't

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01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: think their season is completely toast if they lose, but

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Speaker 1: it's pretty close to it. And I think it sets

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Speaker 1: the possibility that you're going to be the last place

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Speaker 1: team in the AFC East. I mean, I think it

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01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: sets the floor. Yeah, I don't think that you win

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Speaker 1: anything per se by winning, but I think you lose

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Speaker 1: a lot by losing. I feel like a lot on

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Speaker 1: the line. I feel like a play in game to me, Like,

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Speaker 1: this is a game you gotta win. You're beating this

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Speaker 1: team a lot. You're probably maybe a little bit better

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Speaker 1: than them, I guess, but you know, win this game,

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Speaker 1: then you get the opportunity to play, like slide ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Jets, at least with the tiebreaker, so you

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Speaker 1: know you have a path. You know, we could start

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Speaker 1: getting in front of some of these teams. And if

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Speaker 1: you lose your two games, more than likely you'd bet

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Speaker 1: two games behind the entire division. Everybody would be seven

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01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: and three, you'd be five and five. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm assuming Buffalo wins at home against Generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: what I'm most interested in is what changes this year.

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01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: Like you've owned the Jets forever, does that finally change

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01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: and you lose a big game to them. You haven't

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01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: only been able to win a big game on the

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Speaker 1: road against a good team in a while. I mean,

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Speaker 1: can you do that in Minnesota or Vegas or the Cardinals.

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01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 1: You haven't beaten Miami or in Buffalo in two years, So,

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Speaker 1: you know, are you able to get one of those wins?

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01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of things that I'm curious,

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01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: curious if they're going to change flip the script from

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Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last couple years, because if

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01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: it goes like it went the last couple of years,

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about two wins, and you know

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01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: they'll they'll kind of fade down the street. So, Evan,

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Speaker 1: you watch Bill today, I did. I. You know, he mentioned,

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01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, having wrinkles for the Jets, Jets having wrinkles

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01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: for us. Which team do you think is best equipped

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01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: to have the biggest wrinkle? Probably the Jets. Honestly, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's a talent thing. I just

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01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: as of right now, I maybe not on defense, but offensively.

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Speaker 1: I trust their coaching staff more to come up with wrinkles,

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01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 1: to do things differently. When we were talking about changing

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01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: your offense on the fly, and is it possible and

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01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: things like that. I go back to twenty eighteen when

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Speaker 1: they reinvented themselves down the stretch into that twenty one

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Speaker 1: personnel base package, and that was all the conversation during

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01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Week when we talked to the coaches, was

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Speaker 1: we really we changed? Right? We got to that point

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh loss in Pittsburgh, and we kind of changed

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Speaker 1: the way that we were playing. And they had those

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Speaker 1: last two games at home against I think it was

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Speaker 1: the Jets in the Bills before the Bills were good,

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Speaker 1: and they were able to kind of practice again those

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Speaker 1: teams this new way of doing things. But that staff

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Speaker 1: had McDaniels running it, Scarneckia coaching the line, Fears coaching

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Speaker 1: the backs like that was a totally different animal, right

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Speaker 1: in terms of coaching chops on that side of the

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Speaker 1: football to be able to not only morph on the

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Speaker 1: fly and change how they were identity wise, but then

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Speaker 1: also to have compliments off of some of the things

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Speaker 1: that they were doing. So it wasn't all the same

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01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: thing over and over again. Have you even seen Fears

1670
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: of practice at all? I mean, he was around a

1671
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: lot earlier. He pops around. Yeah, in time, and you

1672
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: know he's like partially retired, right, He's not running the

1673
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: room anymore at the running backs, but he's he's around.

1674
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: I saw him. I came in with him the other

1675
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: day and I saw him driving as we're trying to

1676
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: treat them. I didn't get I didn't get a chance

1677
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 1: to talk to him. He just he drove by as

1678
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: I was walking through the parking lot. Eric's got that

1679
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: retirement piece. It's still still cued up, still waiting, Dwayne

1680
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: and Boston writes in I want to first acknowledge all

1681
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: of the following excuses for Mac Jones's poor offensive performances.

1682
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: As I've heard from Patriots dot Com in the local

1683
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: Boston media. Can't compare Mac to Brady because Brady's the goat,

1684
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: no QB compares. Can't directly compare Max's production to other

1685
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks because he is not as physically gifted as

1686
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: this pit. I have not heard that one can't compare

1687
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: Max Zappy because Mack is the starter. No, I have

1688
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: not heard that one either can't blame Mac for losses

1689
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 1: when the defense couldn't stop a running quarterback. I haven't heard.

1690
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that either can't blame Mac when he

1691
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: can't find an open receiver that I've heard. Can't blame

1692
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: Mac when the offensive I can't blame him. Yeah, I've heard.

1693
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: I've heard people, no one can get open, you can't

1694
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: blame I've heard people blame no one's getting open, no one,

1695
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: no time. I've heard those excuses. Yes, can't blame Mac

1696
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: when the offensive line gives up pressure. Okay for that,

1697
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: Mac can't feel his toes after the angle injury. Bill

1698
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: Belichick embarrassed back by benching him on Monday Night Football.

1699
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,879
Speaker 1: That might be true, that's accurate, But that's Matt Patricia

1700
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: and Joe Judge gave Zappy more straightforward in more creative plays.

1701
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: Aren't they kind of different? And Matt Patricia and Joe

1702
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: Judge are ruining Mac Jones very true. If we can't

1703
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: have a discussion about any of those statements, let's look

1704
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: deeper into how Mac Jones has performed. Mac had only

1705
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: one game winning drive in his career, and that was

1706
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: against the Houston Texans in the twenty twenty one season.

1707
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: In an alternate universe where Deshaun Watson never slides into

1708
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: the DMS for home delivered happy ending Mac Jones would

1709
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 1: Mac Jones would have zero game winning drives. Cam Newton

1710
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: in an underwhelming twenty twenty season, had three by your estimation,

1711
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: What can Max Jones do at an elite level as

1712
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: an NFL starter? What does Mac need to do to

1713
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: better score when the team needs points to win? What

1714
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: do you want to start? I mean, look, I mean

1715
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't And I think this goes to Paul's thing of,

1716
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: you know, thinking that Max's gonna kind of escape. I

1717
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 1: don't think he's escape criticism here. I mean I think

1718
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: he's He's a part of the problem pie not on

1719
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: our show. Yeah, not maybe the biggest part. But I mean,

1720
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: I just go back to we've been talking about a lot,

1721
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: go back to last year, what you've been doing. You know,

1722
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: show some pocket presence when guys are open to deliver

1723
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, when you get creamed, like it's

1724
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: that's not your fault. But he's got to at least

1725
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: have a baseline. I mean, I think what Evan last

1726
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: week you said something about Jared Goff being below the

1727
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: line with the Rams, Like I feel like Max play

1728
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: has been below the line even despite the issues that

1729
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: they've had. Now, I don't think it's fair to put

1730
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: it all on him, but I just think there have

1731
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: been plays to be made that he hasn't made. I

1732
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: don't think he had the same pocket presence that he

1733
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: had last year. He doesn't look comfortable, he doesn't look

1734
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: like he knows what they're doing. So I know it's

1735
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: asking a lot, but welcome to the NFL, your quarterback.

1736
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: It's it's all on you, you know, and I you

1737
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: know you weren't here earlier. I like Mac, you know,

1738
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm happy he's our quarterback, but but I have to

1739
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: be honest. There's nothing he's done this year where I

1740
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: can honestly say it's not back, you know, like he's

1741
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: contributed to the poor play. I just I think the

1742
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: why I roll my eyes and get get a little

1743
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: agitated by emails like that is because when did we

1744
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: ever say that Mac was elite at anything, like, at

1745
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: any point, Like he wasn't elite last year as a rookie.

1746
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: Was better last year as a rookie certainly than he's

1747
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: been this year, way better, but nobody put him in

1748
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: any upper echelon category ever. So I have always thought

1749
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: the same thing about Mac Jones, going all the way

1750
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: back to when he was drafted out of Alabama, which

1751
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: is that he's a Kirk Cousins, He's a Derek Carr.

1752
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:45,919
Speaker 1: He's in that category of quarterback where if you surround

1753
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: him with good pieces and you coach him up and

1754
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: you make things, you know, Cushnie Jimmy Garoppolo, like, if

1755
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: you make things nice for him in the situation that

1756
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: he's in, that he will not anchor what you're doing offensive.

1757
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,759
Speaker 1: No one's ever thought that mac Jones is a driving

1758
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: force to offensive. I'm going to push back on that

1759
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I agree with your assessment, and

1760
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: I think that's you speaking for yourself. I think there

1761
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: were people last year that got all kinds of upset

1762
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 1: when you use Kirk Cousins as a comp all kinds

1763
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: of angry. I think a lot of that stems from

1764
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: the fact that that was mac Jones. We thought thought

1765
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: that that was mac Jones's floor because he was coming

1766
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: in as a rookie and being the sixteenth best quarterback

1767
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: in the league instantly, so we all thought, Okay, well,

1768
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: he's going to just get better, right right, But the

1769
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: problem is is that everything, the situation around him, has

1770
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: significantly regressed. So now he is nowhere close to where

1771
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: he was even last year. So we've rediscovered that now

1772
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: there's a lower floor for mac Jones in the NFL

1773
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: than maybe what we were hoping or what we had thought.

1774
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: But to go back to Kirk Cousins, if you turn

1775
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: on that tape against the Bills from Sunday, he was terrible.

1776
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: He was horrible in that game. He threw four would

1777
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: be interceptions and they drop two of them. He threw

1778
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,879
Speaker 1: one interception where he threw it directly to a Buffalo

1779
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: defender right to him. The only reason why the Vikings

1780
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: were in that game were because of Justin Jefferson and

1781
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: because Josh Allen fumbled the ball in his own end zone.

1782
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: Those are the two reasons why they were in that game.

1783
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: So I just come back to all the time and

1784
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: say the same thing with Kirk Cousins. I think it's

1785
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: a great example. When I watched Kirk Cousins play, like

1786
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: when I watch that tape yesterday, it's the same guy.

1787
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm staring into a mirror like the

1788
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 1: Spider Man meme. Because he's jittery in the pocket, his

1789
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: arm strength down the field is limited when his first

1790
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: read is open or his All Pro receiver is making

1791
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: a ridiculous play on the ball. They move the football

1792
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: down the field. So if you put Mac Jones on

1793
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: this Minnesota Vikings team, I don't think it really falls

1794
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: off that much. But the problem is is that the

1795
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Patriots have a worse play caller. They don't have Justin

1796
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Jefferson on the team, and so now we have the

1797
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: product that we have. Travis and West Virginia says sorry

1798
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 1: for the caller on caller mudslinging yesterday, will stick to

1799
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: football today. I always find myself comparing Mac Jones to

1800
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks from the past, and they came up with

1801
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: a good one to contemplate. Has Mac Jones shown you

1802
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,879
Speaker 1: anything that makes you believe he is better than Jay Fiedler,

1803
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, jaf Fiedler, I I couldn't tell you

1804
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: off about And I think I think they're pretty similar. Yeah,

1805
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: I think you can. I think you can win. I

1806
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: think the only difference that I have is I think

1807
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: that's the ceiling. Like the Kirk Cousins, like Derek Carr

1808
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: think that to me, that's the best he can be,

1809
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: and other people think that's the worst he can be.

1810
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: No like that to me is where I's That's that's

1811
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: the expectation. I'm hoping Simms, that's gone back way too

1812
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 1: far from me. You only Phil Simms. I think it's you.

1813
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: You're talking about kind of the same thing. Yes, yeah, ye,

1814
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: I don't different era, but but same kind of thing.

1815
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't think kirk Cousins's floor. I think that that's

1816
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: what I hope, like he would be on that level

1817
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: of a player and the floor is lower. Yeah, And

1818
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: don't take that as a shot. I didn't mean that you.

1819
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 1: I mean like last year, and Fred will tell you.

1820
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: If you brought up the Andy Dalton's, the Kirk Cousins,

1821
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: the Derek Cars, people got very upset, very very hurt.

1822
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 1: They got very upset at you for underselling their quarterback. Yeah,

1823
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: and like, believe me, I took it all last year

1824
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 1: and and like that's I'm fine with that. I'm a

1825
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: big boy. I can handle criticism. But if you said

1826
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 1: that that was that it was his ceiling, people attacked

1827
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 1: you right for that. Oh, he's gonna be much so.

1828
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: Paul asked me a question today and I had to pause.

1829
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: I was a little upset about that. I'm not gonna lie.

1830
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't ansating it being a real question, would right now,

1831
01:31:55,280 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: would you take Zach Wilson or Matt Jones? So you

1832
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: had a pause too, didn't expect him to pause either.

1833
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. The reason why I'm should have

1834
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: brought this to the table and show prep. The reason

1835
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: why I'm pausing is because I guess like it's hard

1836
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: because if you give Bill Zach Wilson's that's my answer,

1837
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: that's my answer. Can he coach? That's my answer. I'd

1838
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: be intrigued to see what Bill could do with those skills,

1839
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: assuming he's coachable, assuming he's coaching. Right, And I also

1840
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: said that right, we just had the same conversations right

1841
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: if Bill, Like I just could never imagine a world

1842
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 1: that Bill would have gone into that game two weeks

1843
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: ago and said, we're gonna throw at forty one times.

1844
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: We don't need to score any points to win the game,

1845
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have our guy who's not ready to

1846
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: throw the ball forty one times throw at forty one times.

1847
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Like I just could never envision a world where Bill

1848
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: would go into a game and think like that. And again,

1849
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: the game was never out of hand. They didn't have

1850
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: to get away from the run because of the score.

1851
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a one score game in

1852
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: the four quarter. Yeah, like they stopped running it because

1853
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: they didn't want to run anymore. Well, they couldn't run it.

1854
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a bit they didn't try. They ran

1855
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: twelve times. Every single time they ran it though it

1856
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: was I mean, they had a couple of like four

1857
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: or five yard games in there. But the Patriots run

1858
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: defense played a good game. They did, they did, but

1859
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:23,759
Speaker 1: they ran it twelve times. Yeah, like you never allowed yourself.

1860
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: And again, there's a million games that I could think

1861
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: of off the top of my head where you run

1862
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: the ball eight times because you fell behind twenty one.

1863
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Nothing in that game was a one score game in

1864
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Yeah, Like they did not have to

1865
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: stop running. Well, this is like one of those things

1866
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: that you know to go like I was, you know,

1867
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: taking a shot at Shot McDermott earlier when Andy was here. Like,

1868
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: this is one of those things I feel like that

1869
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Belichick still has on the rest of the league, and

1870
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: that is feel for the game during the game, right

1871
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 1: like when Bill when you're in a game against the team,

1872
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: I feel like he has such a great sense of

1873
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: game flow like what what's how's it going? Game? Right?

1874
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Like what what are we? What are we doing? You

1875
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: know we like, to Paul's point, okay, we're up ten

1876
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: to nothing early. You know, let's not have Zach Wilson

1877
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: dropped back forty times because we don't need we can

1878
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: win this game ten to nothing, so let's just That's

1879
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: why it was so surprising to me in that particular

1880
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: game that they passed up field goals, right, because that

1881
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: that to me, was very out of character for Bill. Yeah,

1882
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: I've seen them pass up field goals in a game

1883
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: that ended up, you know, thirty four to twenty eight, right,

1884
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: but that game was was apparent that you weren't going

1885
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: to need thirty five points to win, right. And you know,

1886
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I go to the Bill's game from Sunday because you

1887
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: look at that Vikings offense and it's like, if Justin

1888
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: Jefferson doesn't beat you, then who is? Because Adam Thieland

1889
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: is not Adam Feeland anymore. Hockinson just got there. I

1890
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: guess it Dalvin Cook in the run game potentially, But

1891
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: that was a myriad of probably we've spent like the

1892
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: whole show yesterday, like they they did so many things

1893
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: wrong in that game. Yeah, fundamentally wrong that you lost

1894
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: track there. Just there were like major plays that they

1895
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: screwed up that you don't even remember because it was

1896
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: like the eleventh most egregeous thing they did wrong. Maybe

1897
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: maybe we ecro on Thursday night next week on Thanksgiving

1898
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 1: and the Patriots give up one ninety and a touchdown

1899
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 1: to Justin Jefferson, But I highly doubt it because there's

1900
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 1: no way that Bill is putting his rookie sixth round

1901
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: pick corner on an island against the best receiver in

1902
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: the league the entire game and just saying to Ben

1903
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: Ford or what's the Jackson Drake Jackson? I think is

1904
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: the other corner on Buffalo? Like you got eighteen Dane,

1905
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Dane got it. I would even say, like you can

1906
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,480
Speaker 1: even have the same plan that you had, like schematically

1907
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: just on fourth and eighteen, tell him don't try to

1908
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: pick the pass off, like just make the tackle or

1909
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:51,759
Speaker 1: knocked the ball down. Either one would have worked because

1910
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: if he had gone in and hit him, he can't

1911
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: catch it. And if he had just knocked the ball down,

1912
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: he couldn't catch it. He allowed him to get his

1913
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 1: hand on the ball because he was trying to catch it,

1914
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: which is like a cardinal rule fourth and eighteen. You

1915
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: don't need you don't need the pick, just to watch

1916
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: your corners go out there and get beat like a

1917
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: drum time and time and time again by Justin Jefferson.

1918
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: And we don't jam him, we don't bracket him, we

1919
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: don't do anything to stop him. And that to me

1920
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: is you could say what you want about all the

1921
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,879
Speaker 1: other extracurriculators with Bill. He would never allow Justin Jefferson.

1922
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: It would have to it would be harder. Well, I

1923
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: mean I shouldn't say it would be harder. If that's

1924
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 1: gonna happen, I would think they would be more plays

1925
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: like that fourth in eighteen because I mean it's hard

1926
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: to sit there and say, oh it was so easy.

1927
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't easy. They had great coverage on him a

1928
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 1: lot of those plays. They just didn't make the play

1929
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: because the other guys better than you, right, Like I

1930
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: mean that that that was the the ultimate player thing,

1931
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: like when we talk about you gotta have players like

1932
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: that wasn't Because Kevin O'Connell is such a great coach,

1933
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: his player was better than the guys covering them, or

1934
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 1: Ker Cousins a quarterback. You know, he was just better.

1935
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: M Taylor says, So a lot has been said about

1936
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: the offensive line because it's frankly offensive. What worries me

1937
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: is that we have three first round picks on the

1938
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: line and the only one not benched by poor performance

1939
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: was the guy we didn't actually draft. I'm terrified to

1940
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: invest any draft capital into that line too, because I

1941
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: don't trust that the pick will work out. Trent was

1942
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Trent now, Trent said, third day three guy, he was

1943
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: like a six or seven three. Yeah, so it's just

1944
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: a win winning strange the first round picks. We've known

1945
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: this about win and one of those fourth round pick

1946
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: apparently win should have been fourth round pick too. Yeah.

1947
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Stop it. We gotta get that line right. Yeah. I mean,

1948
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: what would you think of of a bill saying and

1949
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: when us a guard? Fine? I think a problem is

1950
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: is that you're you're putting two guys out a position

1951
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: to maybe save one spot if you move him right,

1952
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 1: because now you have a backup playing at rank guard

1953
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: and a backup playing at right tackle. So you hope

1954
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 1: that it fixes right tackle. But what was they going

1955
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: to do to right guard right? You just don't know.

1956
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to, though, to a degree,

1957
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: where would you rather the whole be? Like if you

1958
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: know that you're gonna have a weak link, like it's

1959
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: not you're not you don't have five playable linement. Man,

1960
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: so you know that one guy is going to be

1961
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,879
Speaker 1: a weak link. Would you rather be on the interior

1962
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 1: or would you rather be a tackle? In theory, I

1963
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: think that it's easier to mask a tackle. Sure, right tackle,

1964
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: you got your eyes on him right, terior pressure gonna

1965
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: kill you right off, the step up in the pocket,

1966
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: chip slide, the protection, that direction, like all those types

1967
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: of things are more doable, I would think for a tackle.

1968
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: But with that being said, just because you can maybe

1969
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: help out a Yadney could uice. He can't be a

1970
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 1: turnstyle either, Like you can't. It's still the NFL. So

1971
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 1: that Marcus Cannon snap where he's just got like what

1972
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 1: or was that wins first snap? Yeah, it gets on

1973
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: skates right, Like you can't. You can't be a turnstyle.

1974
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: You still have to be a representable blocker. And I

1975
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: still fall back on in that situation last year when

1976
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: Trent Brown was out all that time and they didn't

1977
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: just put a when you out there like he ended

1978
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 1: up not starting at all and some of the games,

1979
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 1: but I think he started like three of the games

1980
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: at tackle. Like the fact that they had all those

1981
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 1: moving parts and still didn't want him out there tells

1982
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: me that they really feel strongly about him being a guard. Yeah,

1983
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 1: he's their next Shack Mason um occasionally free agent after

1984
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: next year. I'm yeah, not I I don't know, that's

1985
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 1: that's what I think they'll sign him. I think, why

1986
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: why not? They won't and then they'll draft a guard

1987
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: in the first round. I think, just based on I'll

1988
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 1: say it right here, and Manu will be on the

1989
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: Patriots in twenty twenty three. See, that would irritate me,

1990
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna let I'm not gonna blame them for

1991
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: as Felger likes to say, I'm not gonna blame them

1992
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: for things that haven't happened yet. But with all of

1993
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: the guys that they let walk, they're gonna resign a

1994
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: guard like great, the only Sun guy, but he'll be

1995
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: one of them. They're obsession with yards drives me nuts. Yes,

1996
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,879
Speaker 1: it really does. Like they resigned Tuny to the franchise

1997
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: and they resigned Mason to an extension, Like that's not

1998
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 1: what I want to spend my money. If you want

1999
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: to talk about like the big picture stuff with this

2000
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 1: team right now, that that kind of stuff worked when

2001
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 1: you had Tom Brady, Like when you had Tom Brady

2002
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 1: and you knew you and a good roster on defense,

2003
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 1: and like you knew you were loaded and you were

2004
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: either Super Bowl or bust, and you're in the AFC

2005
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: Championship game every single year. You can draft a guard

2006
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: in the first round and you can be like, all right,

2007
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like, you know, we we have no holes

2008
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: anywhere else that we really feel strongly about. We need

2009
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 1: a guard plug and play. We draft the guard at

2010
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: this point of this organization, like the very the first

2011
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: round pick needs to be the best guy available on

2012
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: the board, regardless of position. And it wasn't they It

2013
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 1: wasn't even cold strange for them, right, So that that's

2014
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, they drafted a guard because they had a

2015
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 1: hole at guard, Like that was it? Ye Jamie and

2016
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 1: Omaha rights And I've heard oh Lineman not play well

2017
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 1: if they don't like or respect their coach. Also, our

2018
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 1: QB play seems to have regressed. We heard that both

2019
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Mattie p and Judge lost the locker room as head

2020
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: coaches and weren't very liked. While Mattie p might be

2021
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: an okay coordinator, could he really be a crappy old

2022
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: line coach? Same for Judge. We talk about how Mac

2023
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: isn't progressing and isn't seeing it well? Is Judge seeing it?

2024
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,759
Speaker 1: Is he able to coach Mac up? I'm not trying

2025
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 1: to give Mac a pass, but even the wide receivers

2026
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: started started aren't looking all right and now we're having

2027
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 1: clubs for hands. Has our offense stopped believing this could work?

2028
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 1: Have the two head offensive coaches lost the locker room.

2029
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't I don't

2030
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: I don't think yet, But I'll just say this, I'm

2031
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna see on Sunday, but

2032
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: I would hope that it seems like a team that

2033
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,839
Speaker 1: has refocused and you know, has some of that energy

2034
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 1: that you talk about, because I did feel earlier in

2035
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 1: the year it felt a little bit like the offensive

2036
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: line maybe a little bit disengaged. I mean, I still

2037
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 1: feel out a little bit about about win. I mean,

2038
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: Brown Is I think settled in a little bit and

2039
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: and been better. But I don't know, I'm kind of

2040
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 1: trying not to jump to conclusions right now, right before

2041
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: we got these big eight games, because this is where

2042
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: this is going to be the defining part of this

2043
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,759
Speaker 1: season and everything we talk about the whole lost season.

2044
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 1: I think it is going to be within these eight games,

2045
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 1: not really what happened earlier in the season. I think

2046
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: those games are like preseason games essentially to me. Now,

2047
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 1: hopefully Andrews coming back solidifies two positions center and guard. Yeah,

2048
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 1: you know, I try not to look into the five

2049
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: seconds of practice that they let us watch, But Isaiah

2050
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: Winn was taking some reps at left tackle and Trent

2051
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: at right. So could there be a major scheme change. Yeah,

2052
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: they could be switching back to where they were last year.

2053
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: That is a scheme change a little bit, not really, No,

2054
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 1: I mean personnel change. Yeah, We've talked about Whin all

2055
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: over the place, Tier about how he just hasn't transitioned

2056
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: to right tackle. You know, it's footwork, it's been awful

2057
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: at right tackle. It's just it looks like he's he's

2058
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: backwards right, it looks like he's he's been flipped, and uh,

2059
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they feel like go back to where

2060
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: it was last year and and that will see I

2061
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that gets enough attention. I think

2062
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: everybody just loves to kill Isaiah Winn. And it's just

2063
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: like slightly in his defense, like all of a sudden,

2064
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 1: he's playing on the right side, and it's just like, no,

2065
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: they are, that's where you're playing now, like like it's

2066
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: it's not the Bill said, you know, some people can

2067
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 1: do it, but not everyone can go from one side

2068
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 1: to the other trans gone from one side to the

2069
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: other like nothing, like he can do it yeah easily,

2070
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's like, you know, if you're

2071
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: righty and someone hands your dependance says you can only

2072
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 1: right left handed all day, like just right Paula that

2073
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: because unless you're unless you're what's it, you know, use

2074
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: both hands like it's for some guyshibious. You know, when

2075
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: did Trent Brown or like, you know, two different makeups.

2076
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: You know when is a big guy, but he's he's

2077
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: shorter obviously in a little bit, you know, yeah, Trent

2078
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 1: Brown's taller. Does this do anything? Like if they decided

2079
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 1: we are going to run the RPO a little bit more,

2080
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: does this change that? Now Trent's on the other side.

2081
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 1: You know, with with Matt being a you know, a righty,

2082
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: does that change it and how they you know, might

2083
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 1: approach RPOs? I think what it does, is it your

2084
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 1: two best run blockers are Trent Brown and Mike on Winnu.

2085
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: So now that you put them on the same side

2086
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 1: of the line, that can be a hopefully that could

2087
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 1: be a something that works consistently, right like, we're just

2088
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna run it. Meanwhile on the other side

2089
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: during passing. So now now I mean to your think,

2090
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: like you know, a scheme change. Maybe they're gonna power

2091
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: up on that right side and they're going to become

2092
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: a power running team and predominantly to the right right right,

2093
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't know who knows, Well, that's what they did

2094
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: last year. And then you know you have you get

2095
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: Trent Brown and on Winnu. You get them on a

2096
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: on a double team, you pull the guard and now

2097
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're moving people and then you

2098
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: hit the play action off of the pulling guard and

2099
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 1: now we have an offense, right like, now we're starting

2100
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 1: to sequence things together. That's the Josh McDaniel's offense, right,

2101
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: That's what they were doing last year. So if that's

2102
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,759
Speaker 1: the direction that we're moving in, then yeah, okay, maybe

2103
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: that's the step in the right. I mean last year

2104
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: was Shack Mason and Trent I should say, but same idea, right,

2105
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: same philosophy. I just think like them passing down power

2106
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 1: rushers off the left side when you got Winning Strange,

2107
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: now that that's a concern, right, Like, that's something that

2108
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 1: now you really have to think about. And it's mac

2109
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: mac backside too, so I know there's always give and

2110
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: take with everything that they do. I mean, I guess

2111
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: it speaks to why they might have initially done it.

2112
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm not looking too much into the

2113
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: fact that they showed us that today because I just

2114
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of issues with Win in

2115
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: strange next to each other on the left side. I mean,

2116
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Mike on Weddow couldn't play next to Win on the

2117
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: left side left guard last year Cole Strange with him there.

2118
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: It just that seems like a disaster. We'll see, well,

2119
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 1: you know, just something to keep in mind on Sunday

2120
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:02,480
Speaker 1: when they start at one up and whatnot. Yep. Um

2121
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: David Bethlehem wants to know why has John hu Smith

2122
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: been in effective this season. Who else can run snappy

2123
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: routes besides Myers? I don't know. It's the same thing.

2124
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same thing as last year. I

2125
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: was gonna say, why was he ineffective? Way? Yeah, yeah,

2126
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: it's been. It's been. It's one of those guys that

2127
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: just doesn't really fit. But don't you get a sense

2128
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: he's starting to get a little bit more integrated not

2129
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: other week. And the only time he ever catches passes

2130
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: when they throw screens to him. I mean, I know

2131
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: everyone will probably have numbers that, but I just to

2132
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 1: my mind's eye, they have to design a play to

2133
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 1: throw the ball to him for him to contribute. The

2134
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 1: biggest issue that I have with a guy like Johnny

2135
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 1: is not necessarily his production. It's more the evaluation of

2136
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 1: the player in free agency versus your plan for him

2137
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 1: as a coaching staff. Like, if you're going to sign

2138
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 1: a guy you know, don't you have to have some

2139
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: sort of a plan of how you're going to use him?

2140
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: And what was the plan plan with Johnny Smith? Because

2141
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 1: he is the type of receiver that needs to be

2142
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 1: schemed open and needs to be his screens or misdirection,

2143
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 1: and he's a catch and run player. He's not a

2144
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: route runner. He can run the seam a little bit,

2145
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: but for the most part, he's a straight line guy.

2146
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Like you get the football in his hands and he

2147
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 1: goes like that's the idea of Johnny Smith. So when

2148
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: you acquired him in free agency, when you signed him,

2149
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 1: there had to have been some semblance of a plan

2150
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 1: of how exactly we're going to use this player because

2151
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: he is a unique player. This isn't you know, Hunter

2152
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Henry is a traditional tight end, right, you can put

2153
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: him on a tight end rout tree, you can put

2154
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 1: him in line and just have him play why like

2155
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: the whole game. Like that's just Hunter Henry is just

2156
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 1: your natural, traditional why tight end. Johnny Smith's his own thing.

2157
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 1: So if you don't have a plan for him, he's

2158
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: not going to be good. Now, he's not a smooth athlete,

2159
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: like he's just he's very choppy. And it's funny because

2160
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: he is an incredibly good athe but he just agree

2161
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: with you at all and and and to your point

2162
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 1: of than like like at this point, part of me

2163
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: just feels like we got money to spend, we have

2164
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: no tight ends. It's an absolute like just black hole

2165
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: in terms of production in twenty nineteen to tight end,

2166
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: let's just grab these guys who who have been you know,

2167
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 1: and to the other guy to wonder, like with Henry,

2168
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 1: not that Henry was like George Kittle last year, but

2169
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 1: Henry had a good, solid year and this year he's

2170
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 1: kind of been an afterthought. And you know, I still

2171
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 1: I've been wrong because they haven't done it. But I

2172
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 1: still wonder when you get down there and you're having

2173
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 1: all these struggles in the red zone, why they haven't

2174
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: really tried to integrate him anymore. Yeah, in the red zone.

2175
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's funny you said that, Paul and

2176
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: one touchdown, and I'm like, it seems like everybody after

2177
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 1: Myers is an afterthought, Like everybody like the receivers. I mean,

2178
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 1: I guess Stevenson you could say he hasn't been an afterthought,

2179
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: but it's like every touch year nobody's involved, every touchdown

2180
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 1: they get in the red zone is like they finally

2181
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 1: execute one of those routes, right like as opposed to

2182
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna remember last year, like Henry would

2183
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,600
Speaker 1: just run run a little too, He'd run into the

2184
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: end zone, turn box a guy out, No nothing, fancy no,

2185
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 1: like you know, he'd be like a yard yard over

2186
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: the goal line, use his big frame like a basketball player,

2187
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 1: and he'd catch a touchdown. I mean, I think Evan

2188
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: might back me up on this, but I've seen like

2189
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: a fair number of those plays this year where it's

2190
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: it's been you know, and you kind of see him

2191
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: and he turns and he's I think, gets us back

2192
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:25,679
Speaker 1: to Mac. I can't honestly say that he's not part

2193
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: of the problem. I think last year he had just

2194
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: so much more trust and everything that was going on

2195
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: around him, where this year we're talking to you know,

2196
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 1: the route that Paul's talking about, you gotta throw that

2197
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 1: before the receiver comes out of the break, right, So

2198
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: if if he doesn't trust this guy, all of a sudden,

2199
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: now it's a pick six going in the other direction.

2200
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: And I think that that's in his head. You call

2201
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 1: it trust? Was it more just I'm just doing what

2202
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 1: they tell me to do, and then this year he's

2203
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: thinking too much. I think it's trust because it's he's

2204
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: thrown so many picks already this year that if you're

2205
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: on the three yard line, let's call it, and you're

2206
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 1: trying to run a sit route to Hunter Henry on

2207
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 1: the goal line and he falls or he stumbles, and

2208
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's to pick six going

2209
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: in the other direction, and it's like, oh here, you know,

2210
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 1: here we go again, right, you know? So, I think

2211
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the instances with Mac that you're seeing

2212
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 1: on tape is that he wants he's no longer anticipating throws.

2213
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 1: He needs to see it open. The only guy that

2214
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 1: he anticipates throws with his Jacobi. Everybody else needs to

2215
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: show Mac I am open, throw me the ball before

2216
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: he's going to throw the football because so many bad

2217
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 1: things have happened this year off of those trust throws

2218
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: that he just won't pull the trigger. And that's the

2219
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 1: thing with him. And by that point is too late

2220
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have like if he's he sees it late,

2221
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: he can't get it there extra quick to make up

2222
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: for that disc difference. And I think that you know,

2223
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 1: that goes to just the problem and not seeing it

2224
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: like he did. He has to see it, He has

2225
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: to anticipate, he has to be able to throw with

2226
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: confidence to these guys. And I mean, it's just it's

2227
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:53,759
Speaker 1: all connected. Alex writes in says he loves the addition

2228
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 1: of Evan. I wish he could be in every show

2229
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 1: a regular Well he is in Catch twenty two, right, Um.

2230
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: He really is relatable to millennials growing up as a

2231
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 1: fan of this team and just adds unmatched context that

2232
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: a normal viewer wouldn't know. I also think he brings

2233
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 1: the best out of Paul when Evan is in the room,

2234
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 1: Paul seems to want to bring his a game to

2235
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:20,600
Speaker 1: try to match Evan's football prowess. He also seems he

2236
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 1: also seems to be extra contrarian to everything. Evan says, Wow,

2237
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 1: these compliments, thank you. Perhaps Paul is in a Brady

2238
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 1: Bledsoell situation he sees a young stud in the making

2239
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: his concern. Yeah, I don't really buy that. But I

2240
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: think Paul's consistent. I think you're you're always you just

2241
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 1: always have your I never care about any event than

2242
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm very consistent. Sounds very nice, Thank you. I just

2243
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: wanted to feel at home. Mike's and Florida on the

2244
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: A sticket outline. What's up, Mike, Mike Stinky Florida. Yeah,

2245
01:51:55,160 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 1: you guys can hear me? Yes? Hey real quick? Ums

2246
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: were touching on it a little bit what's your opinion

2247
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 1: or your thoughts on max ability to as we like

2248
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 1: to say, or people call it, throw people open. Is

2249
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 1: that something he can do something you can't do. I

2250
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: think just gets back to what Evan was just talking

2251
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: about trust. You know, I don't think right now he

2252
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: does that. He doesn't do that like throwing it on

2253
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,879
Speaker 1: the break when you're when you see the guy's numbers,

2254
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 1: throw it anyway because you're confident he's going to break

2255
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: the right way at the right depth and the ball's

2256
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 1: there as he makes his break. But yeah, he's not

2257
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: doing that. He's not, I mean personally. That's why I

2258
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 1: liked the you know, it was a small sample. I

2259
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 1: admit that the handful of plays they made in the

2260
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: Baltimore game, because I thought there were some examples of

2261
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: that at the back shoulder to Davante park They weren't

2262
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: just it wasn't like he was just streaking free the

2263
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 1: whole time. He kind of threw them open, and Parker

2264
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 1: made adjustments on the ball and made they made some

2265
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 1: plays that you know, when they would developing, you weren't

2266
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 1: sure that that was there. You know, I go, I

2267
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: the trust thing is the biggest thing for me. Because

2268
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: I think the Jacobe Myers pick six that didn't count

2269
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: is the perfect example of that, right, Like he throws

2270
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,639
Speaker 1: it before Jacoby comes out of the break. He thinks

2271
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 1: he's breaking out. Jacoby breaks in pick again, And those

2272
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: types of plays, even the ones that don't count, those

2273
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: you log that in the computer, right, And then all

2274
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's like, I'm not one hundred percent

2275
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 1: sure that we're on the same page here, and there's hesitation,

2276
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: and I when it comes to throwing guys open. Look,

2277
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 1: I know that the guys that he played with at

2278
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 1: Alabama were supremely talented players. But if you go and

2279
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 1: turn on that his twenty twenty season Abama and watch

2280
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: Davante Smith and John Metchi make plays on the ball

2281
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 1: down the field, they're not always wide open, right, And

2282
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: and Mac is throwing the ball in spots and just

2283
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: letting them go up and pluck the ball over defenders,

2284
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 1: because so he had that in him. This has been

2285
01:53:56,040 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 1: trained out of him, right, is point. It's also that

2286
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 1: trust knowing that the guy I'm throwing too is better

2287
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: than the guy covering him. Yeah, but I'm not saying

2288
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 1: that back shoulder passes have you know, don't need to

2289
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 1: be accurate. They do. They need to be Oh, I

2290
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: think they need to pinpoint. But it's to me, that's

2291
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: not the same as like hitting a guy before he

2292
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: makes his break, you know, knowing you know, it's a

2293
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 1: little it's a different type of of play. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's more of a jump ball where it's very hard

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Speaker 1: to defend the back shoulder pass, you know, but when

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Speaker 1: you throw a guy open, he could be defended. You know,

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Speaker 1: the guy could be on his hip, but you know

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Speaker 1: he's gonna make the break and he's gonna he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get that step out of the break and the ball's

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Speaker 1: going to arrive on time. He doesn't know any of

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Speaker 1: those things right now. He doesn't know the guy's going

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Speaker 1: to make the break. I think he doesn't notice that. Mike, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Mike. Yeah. I was just gonna say, how

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Speaker 1: how much do you think that limits this offense? And

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't have those guys to be able to

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Speaker 1: do that with Oh, I think it's it's you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: I think it's usually it's hugely limited. Yeah, it really

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Speaker 1: is a huge part of it. I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: think it just goes back to the point of like

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Speaker 1: getting back to you know what Max strins were and

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Speaker 1: what he was good at coming out, And I think

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Speaker 1: you know, if you can't get back to those things,

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Speaker 1: then you're never gonna hit any kind of ceiling with him.

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Speaker 1: He's got to do the things he did well coming

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Speaker 1: out first and foremost. All right, that's gonna be it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Uh, stay tuned for

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Speaker 1: Catch twenty two with Evan and Alex Baffy. They'll be

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Speaker 1: breaking it down. They'll tell you how the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: going to beat the Jets on Sunday. Oh, I gotta

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Speaker 1: read something. I assume I only have two things every one.

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Speaker 1: Oh lucky fee, you ended the show three minutes earlier.

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