1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Locker Room Show, presented by Arizona 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals Podcast, Visit Hazycardinals dot com Slash podcast ol Man. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Come on, let's get back to the stadium for analysis 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: and exclusive interviews from the Cardinals locker room. Here's Dave pash, 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, and Paul Calvicy. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Well and several of the Cardinals losses this season. The 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: offense just has not gotten it done. Only two hundred 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: and ninety eight yards of offense, three of twelve on 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: third down, forty nine rushing yards, and fourteen of those 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: came on a deMercado run at the end of the 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: half that really meant nothing in the second quarter. So 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: it's awfully hard when you scored just six points and 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: again the interception returned for a touchdown. When that's enough 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: to win the game and your offense isn't getting it done, 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: it's a tough one because your defense, despite all the injuries, 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: was not perfect, certainly not in that last eight minute 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: drive by Seattle, but wolf ultimately they're playing about as 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: well as you could ask. 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: My goodness, there are two things I just am having 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: a hard time wrapping my arms around right now. Number One, 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 3: the fact that Seattle scored sixteen points and won this game. 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: Coming into this game, if you would have told me 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: that Seattle was only going to score sixteen points, I 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: would have almost guaranteed you the Arizona Cardinals were going 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: to win this game. I think the defense came out 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: here and really did an excellent job once again. Offensively, 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: the biggest disappointment was the how. It wasn't the what 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: that they only scored six points. It was how they 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: only scored six points. They could not run the ball 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: against a defensive front. Now, I know, this defensive front 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: for the Seattle Seahawks has actually played so much better 32 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks. Stand that, Yet at 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: the same time, man, you could not run the ball 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: against this Seattle Seahawks defense. That is number twenty six 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 3: and rushing yards per game allowed and number twenty six 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: and rushing yards per play allowed. They're at the bottom third. 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: And it wasn't like they were jamming up the box. 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: They were not jamming up the box. Even when the 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals would jump into thirteen personnel, the Arizona Curdles 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: could not run the ball because of their offensive line 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: got whipped at the point of attack. And you know what, 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: I would challenge every member of the offensive line to 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: tell me that that wasn't the case, and I guarantee 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: you they would say we got beat. We did not 45 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: do our job at the point of attack. That's why 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: everything broke down offensively for the Cardinals. That's the way 47 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: I see it, because they were not able to run 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: that ball. 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Final score Seattle sixteen Cardinals six interviews and much more 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: you'll hear from coach Jonathan Gannon coming up on the 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: Cardinals Radio network. Season low in points, six first downs, fifteen, 52 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: rushing yards forty nine and first time since Week four 53 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: against Washington, the Cardinals held under three hundred total net yards. 54 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: They finished with two ninety eight. So the Cardinals get 55 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: their first division loss. They're now two to one in 56 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 2: the division. They're six and five, tied with Seattle. They'll 57 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: play the Seahawks in two weeks. Cardinals are in Minnesota 58 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: next week. The Vikings are nine and two. You'd have 59 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: to think wolf at some point. Again. The Cardinals have 60 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: had great defensive efforts. That's a big reason why they've 61 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: won games. They've had some big first quarters offensively, which 62 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: have helped, but just not enough to day, and at 63 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: some point that pass game is going to have to 64 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: get unlocked. But when you can't run the ball, and 65 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: the Cardinals could not run the ball today, makes it 66 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: awfully hard for that to happen. 67 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, once again the offensive line as well, David. 68 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 3: It wasn't just not being able to run the ball, 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: but it was also breaking down in terms of protecting 70 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray as well. And you know, sometimes a quarterback 71 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: can get into a rhythm if you will, I'm going 72 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: to take my drop one, two, and if it's not 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: there the primary win, I'm going to start looking for 74 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: the secondary quickly and if that's not there, I'm gone. 75 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 3: And it never was a situation where Kyler Murray looked 76 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: comfortable in the pocket to me today, And I think 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: a lot of that has got to do with the 78 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: fact that they were not able to run the ball 79 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: and use the play action that we've seen in the 80 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: past effectively. Man, that is one of the I can't 81 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: get it out of my head, David. What a disappointment 82 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: it truly is that the Cardinals could not run the ball. 83 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: Actually in between the tackles, when we talk about cramming 84 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: it north, that opens up so much of the passing 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: game using that play action, and they were never able 86 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: to get that really going here today because they were 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: never able to actually run the ball in between the tackles. 88 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: With Jonah Williams back too, right, you expected now that 89 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: you're getting healthier on the offensive line, you know will Hernandez. 90 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Of course he's done for the year, but you thought 91 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: maybe you'd have a better performance from that group with 92 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 2: him back. 93 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. And yet again, it was 94 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: not just the offense. It was also the defense out 95 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: there not being able to come up with the stop 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: when they needed to come up with a stop. But 97 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: it's hard to criticize them at all when you give 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: up sixteen points to the Seattle Seahawks. Look at the 99 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 3: Seahawks coming into this game. They were number fifteen as 100 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: a matter of fact, right in the middle of the 101 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: league in points giving up twenty are allowed or score 102 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: twenty three point three, number fifteen in the league. 103 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: Ten points a lot by the defense. Because again, to 104 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: have the defensive touchdown. 105 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: Let's go to Paul all right, we have Michael Wilson 106 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: alongside of the Cardinals visiting locker room. 107 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 5: Just tell me about that game. 108 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 4: And how and where you think it turned today. 109 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: I know you're in the moment. 110 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: It's tough, your moment's removed from the field, But I mean, overall, 111 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: what sort of game? 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: How would you describe it? 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: Yeah? 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 6: I feel like our offense. I think the defense played 115 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 6: a tremendous game. I mean they only gave up outside 116 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 6: of the pick six, they gave up ten points. 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 118 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 6: I really think that the game comes down to a 119 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 6: couple tight games like that. Difference makers are a couple 120 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 6: of plays here and there, and I think offensively, we 121 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 6: just didn't do a good enough job of converting on 122 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 6: that fourth down, and I feel like that's kind of 123 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 6: what changed it. Off the top of my head, that's 124 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 6: the play that I keep going back to, is that 125 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 6: just didn't do a good enough job executing offensively. I 126 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 6: mean the touchdown we got called back that was another 127 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 6: big play, but comes down to a bunch of the 128 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 6: little things. I don't think we did a good enough 129 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 6: job of executing on offense doing the little things right. 130 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 5: Did you see a variety of looks? 131 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's known for disguising a lot of coverages. 132 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 5: He's being very multiple. 133 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, they're known to ROLLODECKX A lot of calls 134 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 6: at seems like at random times, got cover six, got 135 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 6: cover one, Cover three, Cover four, I mean pretty much 136 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 6: every coverage in the book we got thrown at us 137 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 6: this week, and at a variation of downs and distances, 138 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 6: which I think is difficult at times because you kind 139 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 6: of don't really know what you what you're gonna get, 140 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: except I think on third down there that was probably 141 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 6: their most consistently. They've played a lot of a lot 142 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 6: of man on third down. But yeah, they did a 143 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 6: good job of mixing up coverages and giving us different 144 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 6: looks to digest. 145 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: What does that mean for a receiver? I mean it 146 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: just you have to be obviously on the same page 147 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: with the quarterback and you have to read it exactly 148 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: the same way. 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: Correct. 150 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, I think it's at times it can be 151 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 6: it can present challenges because you might think you have 152 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 6: to beat man on display and then it turns into 153 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: zone or vice versa. You might think, okay, based off 154 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 6: the show of the defense, looks like I'm getting zone, 155 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 6: and then they it's man, and so the mindset kind 156 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: of changes a little bit. But like I said, we're 157 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 6: trained enough to be all different types of coverages from 158 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: every single position on the field, and we just as 159 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 6: it collectively wouldn't do enough job. 160 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: All right, So the last field goal drive by the 161 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: Cardinals in the fourth quarter, it's third and four at 162 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 4: the forty and the balls in the air, and I 163 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: literally from the sideline said, oh man, that's impossible, and 164 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 4: then you came down with it. So tell me about 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 4: that over the shoulder catch and at what point did 166 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: you even pick it up in the air. 167 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, that's one of those plays that probably was 168 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 6: the best catch in my career so far. And guys 169 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 6: that are in that position know it's actually a lot 170 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 6: harder because I'm literally looking vertical on the ground. But 171 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 6: I think it just comes down to trust with Kyler 172 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 6: and all you can ask for his receiver's opportunity. And 173 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 6: I was I was a little distraught about the fourth 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 6: down pick sick because I know, next time the ball 175 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 6: is coming by the way, I'm coming down with it. 176 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 6: I don't care what it looks like. And in that moment, 177 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 6: I just decided in my mind there's no way I'm 178 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 6: letting this football touch the ground and just trust my training. 179 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 6: That's why we catch a thousand balls a week on 180 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 6: the drugs just for opportunities like that. So just happy 181 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 6: the preparation is paying off. 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 4: And is there a moment where you actually lost the 183 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: ball in the air because you had to adjust right? 184 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 185 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had. 186 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 6: I was running a corner route and I took it 187 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 6: high because a dB was playing on my back hit 188 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 6: and Kyler kind of laid the ball and floated it. 189 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 6: And originally I had to turn over on my other 190 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 6: shoulder because I thought it was gonna hit on my 191 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 6: on my on my inside shoulder. 192 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: That wasn't right. 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 6: I had to turn back again. But like I said, 194 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 6: a lot of times in games, is just trusting your training. 195 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 6: That's the reason why the week of preparation is so important, 196 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 6: because it gives you the confidence and the muscle memory. 197 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 6: When your brain shuts off, your body knows exactly what 198 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 6: to do. 199 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: So you get another shot at these guys in a 200 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: couple of weeks. 201 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 5: How much do you look forward to the rematch? Can't wait. 202 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 6: I'm not thinking too far ahead. We obviously out in 203 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 6: Minnesota next week. But they're a good football team and 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 6: they outplayed us today, so I know everyone in the 205 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 6: building is not going to let that happen. 206 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: Again in two weeks. Michael, thank you, thank you, Michael Wilson. 207 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, that was just an amazing play. His back 208 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: at his head were bent back as he's trying to 209 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: see the ball looking up into the sky, and then 210 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: the thing just comes down and he adjusted to make 211 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: the catch. Unfortunate the Cardinals couldn't get into the end zone, 212 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: and obviously the eight minute drive by Seattle after that 213 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: really didn't matter because they just weren't going to have 214 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: a real possession at that point. But still, just an 215 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: incredible catch. Just not enough of those in this game. 216 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what it was? The say, hey kid, 217 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: it was Willie Mays. That's what it was. Catch right over. 218 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: I mean it's the hardest catch that a wide receiver 219 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: can actually make on a football field to be looking 220 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: for the ball, and it wasn't like he was looking 221 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: one over one shoulder or the other. He was looking 222 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: straight over his head for that ball to come down. 223 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: Incredible throw and an incredible catch by Michael Wilson, and 224 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: a disappointing outcome from that point forward. 225 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: Cardinals are now six and five, Seattle is six and five. 226 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: San Francisco lost now five and six, and the Rams 227 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: are about to play Philadelphia. Minnesota moves to nine and two. 228 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 2: They beat the Bears today in overtime, Sam Darnold three 229 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty yards and two touchdowns. It's been an 230 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: incredible story. They drafted a quarterback in the first round 231 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: last year. Donald just bounced around people won when he 232 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: was called upon that lot of people thought Minnesota is 233 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: going to be a four win team this year, and 234 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: here they are wolf one of the better teams in 235 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: the league. 236 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: You know, It's one of the things I love about competing, 237 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: and one of the things I love about the National 238 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: Football League is, well, David, just the fact that if listen, 239 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: if you're in the NFL, you're talented. You've got a 240 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: lot of talent. How many upsets did we actually see 241 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: today as well? They're out there, There's no doubt about it. 242 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: How many contested games we saw. They're out there. And 243 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: the reason being again is the fact that everyone in 244 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: the National Football League is capable the old any given Sunday. 245 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: It's been around for a long time, but it's been 246 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: around for a long time because it's truth any given Sunday. 247 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: Once again, it just blows my mind how competitive this 248 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: league is and it's not because of parody. It's such 249 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: a negative word for me, David. It's because there are 250 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 3: good football players on every team, and because of that, 251 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 3: they're able. 252 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: To compete defensively. I don't know again, how much more 253 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: you can ask for offensively. I'd be curious to see 254 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: what kind of adjustments what the Cardinals do offensively next 255 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: week on the road again against Minnesota, if they can 256 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: find a way to run the ball. It just wasn't 257 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: happening today. James Connor really never got going, never got 258 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: unlocked there, and for the longest time, their longest run 259 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: was that De Mercato fourteen yard run. Connor finished with 260 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: eight yards on seven carries. 261 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: Leonard Williams, That's what I think of right there. Leonard 262 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: Williams had himself a day. He destroyed, single handedly destroyed 263 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals' ability to run the football today, and 264 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: that was really really disappointing. Once again, this is a 265 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: strength for the Arizona Cardinals to be able to line 266 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: up in twelve personnel, line up in thirteen personnel and 267 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: run the ball and do it in a very cram 268 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: ad vertical kind of way. That is who they are, 269 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: and to come out here and get shut down the 270 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: way that they did at the point of attack, getting whipped. 271 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: We just haven't seen a lot of that. We have not, 272 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: and I'd be very curious to hear the offensive line 273 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: talk about that and be accountable as to why they 274 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: were not able to actually do what they have been 275 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: doing all season long. You know a lot of things too, David, 276 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: whom who knows maybe it's coming off the by I 277 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: did not expect this team to have a down game 278 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: coming off the bye. And you know what, I think, 279 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go home and take a look 280 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: at this on tape and watch it, because once again, 281 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: the defense came out here and competed. Yeah, they only 282 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: gave up ten points. But if you told me, David, 283 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: that they gave up sixteen points to the Seattle Seahawks, 284 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: I would have said, the Arizona Cardinals win this game 285 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: hands down, without even blinking an eye. And yet the 286 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: defense only did give up ten points and the Cardinals 287 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: still lost offensively. It was all because they couldn't run 288 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: the ball. 289 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Two and a half sacks for Leonard Williams. He got 290 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: a game ball for good reason. The ten year pro 291 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: out of USC and that Seattle defensive line they along 292 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: Obviously Leonard Williams was the centerpiece, but that d line 293 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: was awesome today. Gave the Cardinals fits. It was hard 294 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: to protect Kyler Murray. It's hard to run the ball. 295 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: And again I think that just with Jonah Williams back, 296 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: maybe it took some time for that group to gel again. 297 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: They weren't sure if he was going to play. It's 298 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: his first game back coming off the buy. Maybe that's 299 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: what it was. But again, the Cardinals will get back 300 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: to work and they'll go home tonight and get ready 301 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: for Minnesota next weekend before Seattle comes calling, and then 302 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: they'll play the Patriots. They have an interesting stretch where 303 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: they have two games against teams with bad records, New 304 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: England and Carolina, although Caroline is playing much better, and 305 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: then wrap up the season with the Rams and the Niners. 306 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: All right, JG is ready, here's Paul. 307 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: All right, the head coach, Johnny and the Gannon coach. We 308 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: just talked to Michael Wilson. He praised the defense, say collectively, 309 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: as an offense, we just didn't do enough. 310 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: What do you start in assessing the O? 311 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you know, we gotta we gotta protect 312 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 7: the football. I thought that was a big play, you know, 313 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 7: on the pick six there, and then we just gotta look, 314 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 7: we got to take a good hard look. I thought, 315 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 7: you know, give credit to those guys, they played extremely well. 316 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 7: I thought Leonard kind of wrecked the game a little 317 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 7: bit in the running pass game. But we got to 318 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 7: have just answers everywhere, you know, first and second down, 319 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 7: run game, pass game. We got to protect a little 320 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 7: bit better, we got to get open quicker. We just 321 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 7: got to collectively play a little bit better. 322 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: But we will. What'd you think of the old line overall? 323 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: Was it that interior, you know, pressure and penetration that 324 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: was the most problematic. What'd you think of the old line? 325 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 326 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 7: I thought that, you know, they started the game pressure 327 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 7: and a bunch and then they calm that down, and 328 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 7: I just feel like, you know, it seemed like he 329 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 7: was a little Kyler was a little under duress for 330 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 7: a lot of that game. So we got to take 331 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 7: a look at it and make sure we're protecting better. 332 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 7: Buds just told the media it's not just the old line, 333 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: it's the backs, it's the tight ends, it's the receivers, 334 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 7: you know, getting open at the right appropriate amount of time. 335 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 7: So collectively, we got to play better in the past game. 336 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's known for, you know, a variety of looks 337 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: and disguising a lot of stuff. 338 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 5: Did did you get a little bit of everything today? Yeah? 339 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 5: We did. We did. 340 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 7: They do a really good job. I mean, he's he's 341 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 7: a head coach for a reason. You know, he's a 342 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 7: he's a really good defensive mind. I thought he mixed 343 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 7: in some different looks, some different packages. Like I said, 344 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 7: give credit to them. They played better than us today 345 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 7: and we'll learn from it and be a better football 346 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 7: team when we play next. 347 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: Ended up being a season lowe rushing yards. How does 348 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 4: that trickle down? And does that you know, impact Kyler 349 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: as well when you're not balanced. 350 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you know that. 351 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 7: I would say, like the fourth quarter kind of was 352 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 7: a little bit of a different game because where the 353 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 7: score was at. But I think when you don't get 354 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 7: the run game quite going like we wanted two or 355 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 7: what we have been doing, you know, we're in some 356 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 7: longer third downs, which makes it hard when it's loud 357 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 7: and you're on the road and versus a really good 358 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 7: third down defense. So we'll get back into lap. 359 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 4: You know, Michael also said, and you mentioned a little 360 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 4: bit too, it's just one of those games that seems 361 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 4: to come down to two, three or four big plays. 362 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: Obviously the pick six on the pick six, was that 363 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 4: just an overthrow basically college. 364 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he's just missed them. I liked the decision. 365 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 7: I think he just kind of missed them there. But 366 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 7: you know, again, give them credit because they the one 367 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 7: kid played with his responsibility and that's kind of a 368 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 7: run pass option there. 369 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 5: But it was good play by. 370 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: Them late first half, the Jackson Smith and Jigma the 371 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: quick wide receiver screen middle screen that went for forty 372 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: six yards. In a lot of those situations, you were 373 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 4: bringing pressure and dialing things up right in those key 374 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: passing downs. 375 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're a good screen team. I mean, they caught 376 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 7: us in a zero there. That's it's my fault on 377 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 7: second and long. But yeah, I think, like you know, 378 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 7: we did a good job pressure in a quarterback. They're 379 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: a huge screen team. I thought we made some plays 380 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 7: on some screens. They made some plays too. They made 381 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 7: some Hey, that one obviously hurt because it gave up 382 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 7: points there at the end of the half. But you know, 383 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 7: I think, you know, just as a whole. I thought 384 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 7: we put good pressure on Gino. We got to make 385 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 7: sure we're doing a good job with four man rushing 386 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 7: coverage because I thought some of his plays that he extended. 387 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 7: They converted some third downs where he had a little 388 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 7: bit of time and they extended to play. So hats 389 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 7: off to him. He's a really good player. He can 390 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 7: do that. But we just collectively got to play better 391 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 7: there in those situations. 392 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: And obviously they only got sixteen points in the game, 393 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: but that final drive, the final field goal drive went 394 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: more than eight minutes. 395 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 5: What made it tough to get off the field. 396 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought the run game, we got a little 397 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 7: bit leaky in the run game, and they converted some 398 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 7: third downs, and one third down I think was an 399 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 7: explosive So that hurt. But you know, like I said, 400 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 7: hats off to them and we'll learn from it. 401 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: Did you get an explanation on the challenge that failed 402 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: on the Marvin Harrison junior touchdown? 403 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: It was in a touchdown? Okay, all right? 404 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: In terms of the rematch here in a couple of weeks, 405 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: I'll how much do you look forward to that one? 406 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 5: To anticipate that I won't look forward to that at all. 407 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 7: We're going to look forward to tomorrow and getting better tomorrow, 408 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 7: and we got a really good football team going to 409 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 7: probably a harder place to play in my opinion, to Minnesota, 410 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 7: or it's a really good football team again, so we 411 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 7: won't look forward to Seattle at all. We're going to 412 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 7: put all our energy and focus in tomorrow getting better 413 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 7: and start knocking down to day and make sure we're 414 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 7: winning each day here coming up versus going towards heading 415 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 7: towards Minnesota. 416 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 4: In any particular takeaway you left the team with, if 417 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: we can ask just. 418 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 7: Just that urgency and energy to get better from this 419 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 7: tape because we didn't play our a game that that happens, 420 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 7: but we got to make sure it doesn't happen again. 421 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 7: So we got to learn from the tape and get 422 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 7: back to it and then get out of Minnesota. 423 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: Okay, thanks for the time, guy, guys, thank you. There 424 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: we go, Jonathan Ginna. 425 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: And you heard coach say you're playing the team of 426 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: the second best record of the NFC this week, Minnesota 427 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: nine and two and again a great story with Sam Darnold. 428 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: It's a really good team, very well coached, and the 429 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: Cardinals will look to bounce back. He mentioned the pick 430 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: six and he mentioned mentioned Leonard Williams wrecking the game. 431 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: I mean, those are the that's it in a game 432 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: like this. Those were really the differences totally. 433 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: And you know, once again, it's good to see that 434 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: the three technique is alive and well in the National 435 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: Football League, being able to ruin rushing attacks because you 436 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: cannot block an interior defensive lineman. That is something that's 437 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: been around the NFL for a long long time right there. 438 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: Unfortunately that happened to the years of the Cardinals here today. 439 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: Their interior offensive line really struggled to block Leonard Williams. 440 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: And that guy has a ton of talent, is one 441 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: of the best three techniques in the league when he's 442 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 3: healthy and when he's right, and he proved that here. 443 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: Today, all right. 444 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: Our executive producer is jim O Mahundro, our associate producer 445 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: Cody Fincher, Engineers Brian DuBose and Matt Harden, Technical director 446 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: Alan Narini, in studio coordinator Jamal Gummel, Vice president of Content, 447 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: Creative and Brands Or Melendez, Craig grieluku Vandenbosch coming up 448 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: with Cardinal talk after a sixteen to six defeat at 449 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: the hands of the Seattle Seahawks, and there's a tie 450 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: for first. Seattle technically as the spot, the number one 451 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: spot because they have the tiebreaker right now in the 452 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: head to head with the Cardinals, but six games to go, 453 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: three more in the division, but one of the better 454 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: teams in all of football up next on the Cardinals schedule, 455 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: maybe better than all the teams the Cardinals will play 456 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: after that, the Minnesota Vikings and Arizona gonna have to 457 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: find a way to get more offensive. It's going to 458 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: win that game. Ron Wolfley Dave Pash saying so long 459 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: from Lumenfield on the Cardinals Radio Network