1
00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,920
Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

2
00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,440
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

3
00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,640
Speaker 2: Cowboys.

4
00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:19,520
Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

5
00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,319
Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within

6
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,000
Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

7
00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,000
Speaker 3: All right, welcome on into Draft one oh one, brought

8
00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,240
Speaker 3: to you by Miller Lte.

9
00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,800
Speaker 2: We are one, thank you, thank you.

10
00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,839
Speaker 3: One week away from right now, Round one of the

11
00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,519
Speaker 3: NFL Draft will be open. Of course, Cowboys have the

12
00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,600
Speaker 3: twenty fourth overall selection. I'm Zach Wolchuk of the g

13
00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,040
Speaker 3: Bag Nation on one O five through the Fan, also

14
00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,360
Speaker 3: of the Draft Show. We've got the great Super Bowl

15
00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,360
Speaker 3: winning scout Brian brought us the Draft show legend.

16
00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,160
Speaker 2: Of course, my partner one O five through the Fan with.

17
00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,680
Speaker 3: The g bagnation, Nick Harris Dallascowboys dot Com, his first

18
00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,520
Speaker 3: year with us and is doing a bang up job.

19
00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,160
Speaker 2: Let's give a round of applase for Nick.

20
00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,600
Speaker 3: Please there, Bobby Belt are Cowboys insider Sean and arj

21
00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,679
Speaker 3: as well one O five through the Fan, and of

22
00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,000
Speaker 3: course Kyle Yemen's another new dad like myself over here

23
00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,320
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kyle, long time North Texas me

24
00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,160
Speaker 3: and to Rain buddy mine.

25
00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,720
Speaker 4: As well, no doubt about it. And hey, let's give

26
00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,640
Speaker 4: it up for Zach Wolcheck here too. He's not gonna

27
00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,720
Speaker 4: get a round of applause, so I wanted to make

28
00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,720
Speaker 4: sure that he's good too.

29
00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,080
Speaker 3: Well, this is pretty awesome that we're sitting in here

30
00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,680
Speaker 3: in the Cowboys meeting room. I think this is the

31
00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,240
Speaker 3: first time in draft one on one history that that

32
00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,120
Speaker 3: has happened. And thank you so much to all that

33
00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,840
Speaker 3: are in attendance. You guys sold this thing out. I

34
00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,959
Speaker 3: think it was what within three hours that we had

35
00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,440
Speaker 3: tickets go up and available. Pretty incredible, and thank you

36
00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,160
Speaker 3: all to your draft passion, for you watching us on

37
00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,680
Speaker 3: the Draft show, all the interaction we get on social

38
00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,320
Speaker 3: media and on the fan. We love doing what we do,

39
00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,640
Speaker 3: but I think it's time we talked some drafts. Will

40
00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,000
Speaker 3: be taking questions from you throughout the entire time that

41
00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,760
Speaker 3: we're here, So if you have any questions, we can

42
00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,400
Speaker 3: figure out a way to get you on Mike and

43
00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,200
Speaker 3: we'll set you up right over there. You can come

44
00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,840
Speaker 3: over ask us a question and we're happy to talk

45
00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,600
Speaker 3: some draft with you.

46
00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,919
Speaker 2: But team.

47
00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680
Speaker 3: I mean, as we're a week out pick twenty four,

48
00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,399
Speaker 3: if we got to kick it around the horn, what's

49
00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,560
Speaker 3: the dream pick right now?

50
00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,679
Speaker 2: Today? I think you guys know who mine is. Who

51
00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,040
Speaker 2: is it? Graham Barton? That's fine, Gram Barton? Is it yours? Yeah,

52
00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,000
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go after It's the Grand Barton fan

53
00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,679
Speaker 2: club right here. Yeah.

54
00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,040
Speaker 3: I love Graham Barton. I mean it is a projection.

55
00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,639
Speaker 3: And we've talked about him a lot. Played left tackle

56
00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,400
Speaker 3: most recently. You go back to res freshman year, you

57
00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,519
Speaker 3: can watch him play some center, But I think it's

58
00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,040
Speaker 3: the attitude in which Graham Barton plays, with the nastiness.

59
00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,639
Speaker 3: He wants to finish you every single snap. I think

60
00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,240
Speaker 3: if you haven't seen him the tape, the one on

61
00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,520
Speaker 3: ones against your Adverse from Florida State sit out to me,

62
00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,360
Speaker 3: it's exactly the reasons I don't want him necessarily as

63
00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,520
Speaker 3: a starter at left tackle, because you see some of

64
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,639
Speaker 3: the limitations again against an athletic disrupt edge like Verse,

65
00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,480
Speaker 3: but you also see a time where Verse will stunt

66
00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,560
Speaker 3: inside and you get a little taste of what it'll

67
00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,720
Speaker 3: be like for Graham Barton in a phone booth there

68
00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,799
Speaker 3: and he just puts Je Verse on his ass, and

69
00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's my dude, right there.

70
00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,280
Speaker 4: He's done that a couple of times. He's so smart

71
00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,919
Speaker 4: with the way that he plays the game. That's the

72
00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,959
Speaker 4: thing is, he's got a high intelligence in the way

73
00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,680
Speaker 4: that he attacks defenders, and he does so against guys

74
00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,800
Speaker 4: like Verse, and he does so against anybody else. But

75
00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,840
Speaker 4: it's the versatility for me. With the way that Tyler

76
00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,839
Speaker 4: Smith is handled right now, left tackle the left guard

77
00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,120
Speaker 4: to left tackle the left guard, you don't necessarily know

78
00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,600
Speaker 4: exactly what you're doing. I think Graham Barton gives you

79
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,200
Speaker 4: a for sure answer. You've got your left tackle of

80
00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,000
Speaker 4: the future. His name's Tyler Smith and he's already in

81
00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,400
Speaker 4: the building.

82
00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:40,800
Speaker 2: There you go.

83
00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,880
Speaker 5: We've talked a lot about Graham Barton being able to

84
00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,040
Speaker 5: come in and play center immediately.

85
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

86
00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well let's say he gets picked. Sure, what is

87
00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,600
Speaker 5: the potential he comes in. Hey, that's a really good

88
00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,360
Speaker 5: left guard you got right there, TJ. Basstbrock Hoffman. Those

89
00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,840
Speaker 5: are options you can still throw in at center left guard.

90
00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,760
Speaker 5: Graham Barton, I mean, with the trace that he has

91
00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,720
Speaker 5: and being able to play up against interior guys. You

92
00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,120
Speaker 5: say that he can handle, or those athletic guys, so

93
00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,000
Speaker 5: let's put them up against three texts, maybe even a

94
00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,280
Speaker 5: five tech that's trying to come inside. I think there's

95
00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,280
Speaker 5: also an option for grand Barton to play left guard.

96
00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,280
Speaker 5: I think for me that's probably why he would be

97
00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,480
Speaker 5: My dream pick is versatil.

98
00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, versatility.

99
00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,159
Speaker 6: The pan over here, Grand Barton, guys on the bus

100
00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:16,560
Speaker 6: with us with.

101
00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:18,880
Speaker 2: Twenty four.

102
00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,400
Speaker 3: You want to welcome in Isisa Morrison of course, Dallas

103
00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,760
Speaker 3: Cowboys dot Com. Thank you as well to those of

104
00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,400
Speaker 3: us streaming on twitch and on YouTube on the one

105
00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,200
Speaker 3: oh five three of the fans YouTube and twitch sites.

106
00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,520
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, We love you.

107
00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,159
Speaker 3: Aisha twenty four, Graham Barton or do you have somebody

108
00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,080
Speaker 3: else that's your dream pick?

109
00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,200
Speaker 7: No, I'm okay with it.

110
00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,599
Speaker 8: I think that somebody made a good point earlier today

111
00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,320
Speaker 8: on the show that even if he does come in,

112
00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,039
Speaker 8: if you were to bring in Graham Barton, is that

113
00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,839
Speaker 8: going to take away from how good he is with

114
00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,840
Speaker 8: communication as a center. And I think that you made

115
00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,800
Speaker 8: that point earlier, Nick, so that would be the only thing.

116
00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,440
Speaker 8: But we know what he's capable of. And then when

117
00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,640
Speaker 8: you look at the Cowboys, so many of the offensive

118
00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,920
Speaker 8: lines that they're playing a lot of the defensive lines

119
00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,640
Speaker 8: that they're playing are strong.

120
00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,159
Speaker 7: On the interior.

121
00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,960
Speaker 8: So to get a guy in, I'm not afraid to rustle,

122
00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,479
Speaker 8: would be nice to pair, you know, right there next

123
00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,840
Speaker 8: to the whatever whatever center they decide to bring in.

124
00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,960
Speaker 3: So, okay, Bobby, I want to get your thoughts here

125
00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640
Speaker 3: in just a second. But Brian, this is way too comfortable.

126
00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,480
Speaker 3: We're all agreeing.

127
00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,400
Speaker 7: It's weird.

128
00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,320
Speaker 2: Why why should GRANM Barton not be the pick of

129
00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,160
Speaker 2: twenty four because Jackson powers Johnson should be the pick.

130
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,040
Speaker 7: He's he always got to make a scene, man.

131
00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know the thing, and I have nothing

132
00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,880
Speaker 2: against Graham Barton at all, And I think the thing

133
00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,360
Speaker 2: that when you look at the Dallas Cowboy was especially

134
00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,680
Speaker 2: with some of the issues that they dealt with in

135
00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960
Speaker 2: the running game, I think point of attack blocking at

136
00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,560
Speaker 2: tight end was poor. I don't think Luke Schoonmaker did

137
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,320
Speaker 2: enough for you there. I don't think the tight ends

138
00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,680
Speaker 2: as a hold it enough and your center was not

139
00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,560
Speaker 2: good enough at reaching wide techniques or getting second level blocks.

140
00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,159
Speaker 2: Graham Barton can do those kinds of things. But I

141
00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,520
Speaker 2: think when you start to talk about power and what

142
00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,320
Speaker 2: you're playing with within this division. When the NFC East,

143
00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,960
Speaker 2: we're starting to see these larger, bigger, more athletic tackles,

144
00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,719
Speaker 2: and so I think you have to be able to

145
00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,800
Speaker 2: combat that. And you know, Graham Barton, I think can

146
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,720
Speaker 2: rustle with anybody like we're talking about. I think that

147
00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,640
Speaker 2: just powers. Johnson has just a little bit more power

148
00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,440
Speaker 2: to him. Is the three hundred and twenty eight pound guy.

149
00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,680
Speaker 2: But you watch him, You watch him reach wide techniques,

150
00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,120
Speaker 2: you watch him play second level, you watch him pull,

151
00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,160
Speaker 2: you watch him like get two blocks on one play.

152
00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,360
Speaker 2: He'll take a down guy, bounce that guy and then

153
00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,160
Speaker 2: bounce to another guy. Yeah. I like the kid from Duke.

154
00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,000
Speaker 2: But to me, if you want to give me the

155
00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,040
Speaker 2: most powerful player at that position, I'm taking Powers Johnson

156
00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:29,600
Speaker 2: from Oregon.

157
00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,880
Speaker 9: Okay, Bobby, Yeah. I mean look, it's funny. The four

158
00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,200
Speaker 9: names I think you see most consistently around the Cowboys,

159
00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,000
Speaker 9: just through mock drafts and everything else right now are Jackson,

160
00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,360
Speaker 9: Powers Johnson, Graham Barton, the two guys we talk about here,

161
00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,200
Speaker 9: and then Amarius Mems and Tyler Geyton. Amarusmims with the

162
00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,680
Speaker 9: tackle at Georgia, Guidon the tackle at Oklahoma. And this

163
00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,159
Speaker 9: is the function of picking at twenty four, is that

164
00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,880
Speaker 9: you're talking about there's a projection, there's a question, there's

165
00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,840
Speaker 9: something about all of them, no matter how much you

166
00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:00,440
Speaker 9: like them.

167
00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,960
Speaker 10: If you like Memes, you like Geiton.

168
00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,840
Speaker 9: You're talking about projecting somebody to left tackle that's been

169
00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,400
Speaker 9: primarily a right tackle. If you like Jackson powers Johnson,

170
00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,920
Speaker 9: you're gonna have to probably get comfortable with some things

171
00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,520
Speaker 9: about his health. If you're talking about Graham Barton, you're

172
00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,680
Speaker 9: talking about kicking him inside to a completely different position

173
00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,560
Speaker 9: than he's played since you know, his freshman year. And

174
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,120
Speaker 9: so I lean towards when I say, what are the

175
00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,200
Speaker 9: Cowboys doing right now?

176
00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:23,960
Speaker 10: Where are they at?

177
00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,400
Speaker 2: Are?

178
00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,040
Speaker 9: You know, they are teams that are rebuilding. There are

179
00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,640
Speaker 9: other teams in the middle of contention. There are other

180
00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,080
Speaker 9: teams trying to, you know, get in while the window

181
00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,160
Speaker 9: is still open. And I think that the Cowboys being

182
00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,040
Speaker 9: in sort of a win now mode right now, it's

183
00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,320
Speaker 9: just what center are you most comfortable with, because I

184
00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,240
Speaker 9: think center minimizes the most risk of all of the

185
00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,320
Speaker 9: picks that they're potentially looking at at the offensive line,

186
00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,360
Speaker 9: because you do have Tyler Smith who can play tackle.

187
00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,200
Speaker 10: You do have TJ. Bass who can play guard.

188
00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,640
Speaker 9: If you commit to Tyler Smith at left guard, you know,

189
00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,960
Speaker 9: are you talking about potentially a center and a left

190
00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,120
Speaker 9: tackle that you got to go find.

191
00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,600
Speaker 10: How comfortable are you with bra Kaufman. I think that TJ.

192
00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,920
Speaker 9: Bass is probably more ready to go right now than

193
00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,880
Speaker 9: I would say Hoffman.

194
00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,640
Speaker 2: Sure, well, we've also gone to see him a little

195
00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,000
Speaker 2: bit more.

196
00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, and so because of that, just where that function is,

197
00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,560
Speaker 9: then I think you got to say, Okay, the win

198
00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,680
Speaker 9: now move right now. That is for the betterment of

199
00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,800
Speaker 9: your team. Would be to me, whichever center you have

200
00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,320
Speaker 9: great at hire right now? I would probably lean Graham Barton.

201
00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,040
Speaker 2: Does anybody are you scared about? And maybe the apprehension

202
00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,000
Speaker 2: I would have about Memes. I think Mems is a

203
00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,800
Speaker 2: hell of a player. And I always get these guys

204
00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,600
Speaker 2: laugh at me because I'm the old guy when we

205
00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520
Speaker 2: start to talk about ceilings and floors and all that.

206
00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,199
Speaker 2: I never talked about that in a war room, but

207
00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,960
Speaker 2: they talk about it today. But I was just wondering

208
00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,840
Speaker 2: with Memes and the lack of games that he's played.

209
00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,800
Speaker 2: You know, you could watch the Ohio State playoff game

210
00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,160
Speaker 2: and you get an idea of like, Okay, this guy

211
00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,520
Speaker 2: can block NFL type players, but is there any apprehension

212
00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,200
Speaker 2: about him playing a different position though, But with the

213
00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,040
Speaker 2: minimal number of games that he's played.

214
00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,800
Speaker 6: You ever been to a wedding, you know you got

215
00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,120
Speaker 6: the loaf.

216
00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,600
Speaker 2: I've been in a couple of them myself.

217
00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,040
Speaker 3: You see these ceilings that are all the subject nick, Yeah,

218
00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 3: I lost I lost my I lost in a wedding.

219
00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,680
Speaker 11: I lost my first one because of the NFL. Okay, okay,

220
00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,160
Speaker 11: just what exact You walk into the venue. You see

221
00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,439
Speaker 11: these high, high ceilings with the chandelier, and you look,

222
00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,920
Speaker 11: You've tried to do this with me before.

223
00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,319
Speaker 5: I would love to touch that chandelier, but yeah, I'm

224
00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,800
Speaker 5: gonna have to get there. That's that's chandelier all the

225
00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,600
Speaker 5: way up there. But also you are looking at your

226
00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,520
Speaker 5: feet and you realize how tall that shandel I've been

227
00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,280
Speaker 5: laying on the ground before weddings. Yeah, I understand that too.

228
00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,280
Speaker 6: You got to.

229
00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,640
Speaker 5: Understand how far you got to get to get there.

230
00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,560
Speaker 5: And I think that that is what Amarus Mims is. Yes,

231
00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,880
Speaker 5: he has this crazy high ceiling, but also at the

232
00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,640
Speaker 5: same time, you don't really know completely the product that

233
00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,160
Speaker 5: you're getting for me whenever I'm looking at guys that

234
00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,880
Speaker 5: you don't have a lot of experience with and a

235
00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,760
Speaker 5: Marius Mims case only eight starts at Georgia. Yes, his

236
00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,160
Speaker 5: first start came in a game against Ohio State and

237
00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,640
Speaker 5: the playoffs in my finals back in twenty twenty three,

238
00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,320
Speaker 5: and I really loved what he did in that game.

239
00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,280
Speaker 5: I think that was his best product that he put forth.

240
00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,440
Speaker 5: What I like to see whenever I'm looking at guys

241
00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,960
Speaker 5: that don't have a lot of experience is okay, what

242
00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,960
Speaker 5: did they show that they can that I know that

243
00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,839
Speaker 5: they can improve on at the next level. What have

244
00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,080
Speaker 5: they shown in that eight games that they've been able

245
00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,320
Speaker 5: to develop? Because you can at least get a trajectory

246
00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,320
Speaker 5: from that line, right, you look at game one, you

247
00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,559
Speaker 5: look at game eight. Okay, I didn't like what he

248
00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,160
Speaker 5: did here as far as his hand fighting was against

249
00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,000
Speaker 5: Ohio State in certain areas. Okay, here in game eight,

250
00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,160
Speaker 5: I see that kind of improving. Yes, there is still

251
00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,239
Speaker 5: ways for him to go, but I know that trajectory

252
00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,880
Speaker 5: is actually going. So with the Marius Mims, I love

253
00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,920
Speaker 5: the frame, I love the size. I think with a

254
00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,080
Speaker 5: guy like that, you bring him in the building, you

255
00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,800
Speaker 5: start to ask, Okay, what do you know from an

256
00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,640
Speaker 5: intelligent standpoint? What do you know from a blocking scheme standpoint?

257
00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,520
Speaker 5: Can you get to the second level? What does your

258
00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,680
Speaker 5: mobility look like? And I think you kind of round

259
00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,480
Speaker 5: that all up in your report, But I think that's

260
00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,880
Speaker 5: when the in house stuff becomes so important, because you

261
00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,240
Speaker 5: want to know the type of person you're getting to

262
00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,400
Speaker 5: if it means that you have to really develop that guy.

263
00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,160
Speaker 2: This is where if I was in the war room

264
00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,520
Speaker 2: with Jerry Jones, being an older guy, I would try

265
00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,960
Speaker 2: and sell Flozel Adams here because the thing I always

266
00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,440
Speaker 2: learned about working with Jerry, you have to tell him

267
00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,120
Speaker 2: this player reminds me of this guy and you could

268
00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,079
Speaker 2: paint that picture for him. If you could do that,

269
00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,079
Speaker 2: then he'll have a better understanding of what he's potentially

270
00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,240
Speaker 2: dealing with. So if I was one of the older

271
00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,719
Speaker 2: scouts like Chris Hall guys that been with him, I

272
00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,400
Speaker 2: would say, hey, potentially this is your flos Oh Adams.

273
00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,480
Speaker 2: At six eight, three hundred and forty pounds. He has

274
00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,280
Speaker 2: a history and understanding of what flows Oh Adams was

275
00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,160
Speaker 2: like as a tackle for him in the nineties. How

276
00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,720
Speaker 2: do you feel about Amarus mems Asia.

277
00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,800
Speaker 8: I mean, I kind of agree with Brian on this

278
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,680
Speaker 8: and this, and I think it goes back to what

279
00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,720
Speaker 8: Bobby said about this being a year where you're looking

280
00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,960
Speaker 8: for this team to take a step forward, and you're

281
00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,000
Speaker 8: relying on the idea that this gentleman is going to

282
00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,640
Speaker 8: come in and be that starter that you're looking for.

283
00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,839
Speaker 8: With some of the development stuff and some of the

284
00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,880
Speaker 8: timing in which he's had experience or the lack of experience,

285
00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,400
Speaker 8: that would give me pause just because you really ain't

286
00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,000
Speaker 8: got time for your quarterback to be getting hit this year,

287
00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,440
Speaker 8: especially with the loss of Tyring. So for me, I'm

288
00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,240
Speaker 8: on the fence about it, but I do see the

289
00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,920
Speaker 8: potential there. It's just like, baby, I don't know if

290
00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,400
Speaker 8: we got time for potential right now.

291
00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,600
Speaker 4: Well, and not to completely like turn the conversation back

292
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,920
Speaker 4: to Graham Barton again, but that's please.

293
00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,600
Speaker 2: I know I would love for that.

294
00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,360
Speaker 4: But the the the whole point about this tackle class

295
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,600
Speaker 4: is that there's a lot of question marks outside of

296
00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,240
Speaker 4: those first couple names. Joe Walt no to Dame check,

297
00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,640
Speaker 4: Olufashan open State check, Tali essay Uaga from Oregon State.

298
00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sean thing you gotta s Yeah, I'm who

299
00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,679
Speaker 3: didn't like Patrick tir Tan coming out always Tave's boring.

300
00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,040
Speaker 2: You're that kind of game year.

301
00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,640
Speaker 6: We'll circle back there.

302
00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,200
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, whenever you're talking.

303
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,199
Speaker 4: About these top tackle prospects, outside of those top three

304
00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800
Speaker 4: or four names, you've got question marks around almost every

305
00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,280
Speaker 4: other tackle prospect.

306
00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,160
Speaker 2: Okay, they're either moving positions.

307
00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,760
Speaker 4: I know there's a move of a position for Graham Barton,

308
00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,280
Speaker 4: maybe not so much for Jackson Powers Johnson as well,

309
00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,640
Speaker 4: but it's a translatable thing to the NFL. That's different

310
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,120
Speaker 4: than sticking a guy at left tackle in Like Aysha's

311
00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,160
Speaker 4: pointing out, you got to play immediately and you've got

312
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,200
Speaker 4: to be good immediately to protect that quarterback.

313
00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,520
Speaker 3: So we do we get we got a lot of

314
00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,920
Speaker 3: guys that we've seen most recently play on the rights,

315
00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,320
Speaker 3: and you might be projecting them over to the left.

316
00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,560
Speaker 3: Bobby out of the most realistic options, and I guess

317
00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,880
Speaker 3: we learned with Ceedee lambfalling to seventeen, maybe everything's a

318
00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,040
Speaker 3: realistic option. You don't know what's going to happen in

319
00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,839
Speaker 3: the draft, But who do you think are the short

320
00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,880
Speaker 3: list of Tackles that you would think the Cowboys would

321
00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,199
Speaker 3: go for there at twenty four.

322
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,400
Speaker 9: I and you mentioning the Lamb scenario there, So we're

323
00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,120
Speaker 9: just talking about who we think can like outside of

324
00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,200
Speaker 9: a Lamb scenario.

325
00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,319
Speaker 3: Outside of a Lamb scenario, and then maybe the one guy,

326
00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,360
Speaker 3: because I certainly have one that if we did get

327
00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,319
Speaker 3: a dream Lamb scenario, that I think would be a

328
00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,160
Speaker 3: home run selection.

329
00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,480
Speaker 10: I think Tackles.

330
00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,880
Speaker 9: It's names we've kicked around a lot recently on the

331
00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,559
Speaker 9: Draft show, Mems, Geiten, those two stand out right there,

332
00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 9: and then to me, I think the other one that

333
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,120
Speaker 9: we should be talking more about, and I think that

334
00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,840
Speaker 9: there's a building awareness of him among Cowboys fans within

335
00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,120
Speaker 9: the draft Muti is Kingsley Suamataiya from BYU.

336
00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,959
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad that you brought him up. Was a

337
00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,679
Speaker 3: visit yesterday here, posted about it at the Star. I

338
00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,120
Speaker 3: think he's better than the other two guys, Geidon and Mims.

339
00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,440
Speaker 3: Would you agree or disagree?

340
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,560
Speaker 4: Felt ready better? Right, He's He's higher on my stack

341
00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,480
Speaker 4: than both of those guys. Yeah, I could see it

342
00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,440
Speaker 4: with Geiton, I don't know if I'm there with Mims.

343
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,600
Speaker 4: Mims has more.

344
00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,960
Speaker 3: Again, I should say potential right upside ceiling.

345
00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,680
Speaker 2: Is that chandelier right up there? But there's so many

346
00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,439
Speaker 2: question marks.

347
00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,040
Speaker 3: I think I know what I'm getting in Kingsley Suamati

348
00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,480
Speaker 3: three hundred and ninety one pass naps and allow a

349
00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,120
Speaker 3: single sack last year. You have seen him at both

350
00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,360
Speaker 3: and I think at first I was a little critical.

351
00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,440
Speaker 3: Does he open up his chest? Is he letting lineman

352
00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,920
Speaker 3: get inside of him there? When it comes to the footwork,

353
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,640
Speaker 3: the athleticism, could he translate? Went back watching him a

354
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,000
Speaker 3: little bit more because he is a name that I

355
00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,720
Speaker 3: think is starting to Hey, we need to know him here, Bobby.

356
00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,000
Speaker 3: I think the guy can do it, and I think

357
00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,160
Speaker 3: he's steady, and you know what he's getting. There's less

358
00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,840
Speaker 3: of a projection to your point, Yeah, And.

359
00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,080
Speaker 9: I mean, look, you you kind of referenced it there

360
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,760
Speaker 9: for all of the projection that we're talking about. Look,

361
00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,000
Speaker 9: Kingsley Suwamatia is still is a raw football player in

362
00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,520
Speaker 9: a lot of ways. But I think that, like you mentioned,

363
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,920
Speaker 9: we have seen a full season of right tackle snaps.

364
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,320
Speaker 9: We've seen most recently full season of left tackle snaps.

365
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,160
Speaker 9: You know that he adjusted well to those sort of

366
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,960
Speaker 9: things and this is look, this is where this this

367
00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,520
Speaker 9: Cowboys scouting staff is so critical and they do such

368
00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,040
Speaker 9: a good job.

369
00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:10,680
Speaker 10: There was.

370
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,760
Speaker 9: So much hand ringing and disappointment and freaking out the

371
00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,000
Speaker 9: night they picked Tyler Smith for a lot of people,

372
00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,480
Speaker 9: and this was a staff that said, look, we've done

373
00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,040
Speaker 9: the investigative work to understand who this player is and

374
00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,720
Speaker 9: why he has the ability to progress forward and reach

375
00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,320
Speaker 9: this despite all these flaws that you may see, we're

376
00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,120
Speaker 9: comfortable with them doing this. So to me, I think

377
00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,240
Speaker 9: that Kingsley Suamati is some of those same sort of

378
00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,000
Speaker 9: issues that you see. It's a similar question with Tyler Smith,

379
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,160
Speaker 9: where if they're comfortable with what kind of a worker

380
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,560
Speaker 9: he is, how he takes the coaching things like that,

381
00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,560
Speaker 9: I think he'd be a great pick because I think

382
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800
Speaker 9: the upside really is fantastic.

383
00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,200
Speaker 3: Well, in a shout out to the Cowboy Scouts, I mean,

384
00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,520
Speaker 3: if they draft Alignment in the first round, they know

385
00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,520
Speaker 3: what they're doing, so I'm not I mean, even if

386
00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,800
Speaker 3: they were to take a guy in at Oklahoma who

387
00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm not in love with and I think certainly has

388
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,880
Speaker 3: to bet on like which one of those guys, I

389
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,360
Speaker 3: don't think translates the best. I think Geiden's got a

390
00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,560
Speaker 3: little bit more work to be done, but you see

391
00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,680
Speaker 3: some traits there that you really like that I could

392
00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,280
Speaker 3: see an offensive line coach say, Okay, bring him in.

393
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,560
Speaker 3: I can bold him and make him something good. What

394
00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,520
Speaker 3: was the offensive tackle that would slide to you that

395
00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,000
Speaker 3: would get you most excited.

396
00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,240
Speaker 9: Bobby, I'm the guy that I would love to fall

397
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,920
Speaker 9: down to them. That the guy that would be my dream,

398
00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,480
Speaker 9: and I just I don't see him getting own. There's

399
00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,040
Speaker 9: just Troy Fatano from Washington. That's a guy to me

400
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,920
Speaker 9: that I think, no matter where you want to play him,

401
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,640
Speaker 9: however you want to use Tyler Smith, I think Troy

402
00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,600
Speaker 9: Fatano can step in and be a above average NFL

403
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,120
Speaker 9: tackle or guard right away. And I think he's somebody

404
00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,360
Speaker 9: who can be a Pro Bowl guard tackle in very

405
00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,000
Speaker 9: short order. And so whichever direction you want to play him,

406
00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,680
Speaker 9: if you can get him to slide down the border

407
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,120
Speaker 9: a little bit too, if you get some of these

408
00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760
Speaker 9: teams that like Fuagamore and fashion new guys like that,

409
00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,560
Speaker 9: then and you can push him down. It's not as

410
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,680
Speaker 9: unrealistic to me heading into draft day as it felt

411
00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,280
Speaker 9: like Ceedee Lamb was and that happened.

412
00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,520
Speaker 3: Brian more realistic guy to slide. Is it Fuaga from

413
00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,440
Speaker 3: Oregon State or is it Fatana? You think from Washington Patano?

414
00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,360
Speaker 3: I think Fuaga. They've done a lot of a lot

415
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,440
Speaker 3: of leg work on too.

416
00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,080
Speaker 2: To me, he was putting one of those guys that

417
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,639
Speaker 2: have kind of viewed as a possible trade up, you know,

418
00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,800
Speaker 2: I know there was all the early mock drafts had

419
00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,639
Speaker 2: him basically with the Jets at ten before you know,

420
00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,600
Speaker 2: they made the deal with for Tyron Smith. I don't

421
00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,640
Speaker 2: think that's going to keep the Jets from doing anything

422
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,560
Speaker 2: like that. But to me, Fuaga is the one. I mean,

423
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,359
Speaker 2: I got him second a second offensive tackle. On my board,

424
00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,560
Speaker 2: Alt would be number one. But you know, I think

425
00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,600
Speaker 2: it's really really interesting, uh when you when you start

426
00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,240
Speaker 2: to talk about uh uh Fatano and what he could

427
00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 2: do and like, to me, there's a lot of just

428
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000
Speaker 2: wow blocks with him. There are you know when you

429
00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:52,040
Speaker 2: watch him, the power, the upper body strength. He had

430
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,240
Speaker 2: a little trouble in the USC game, and you always

431
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,840
Speaker 2: kind of look for the good competition with guys. You know,

432
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,199
Speaker 2: they got a little bit maybe a little bit better

433
00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,199
Speaker 2: edge rushers and stuff like that was a little bit

434
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,920
Speaker 2: of a battle for him. The waste spending stuff was

435
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,800
Speaker 2: getting a little bit of a problem for him. But

436
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,880
Speaker 2: for a man that size, when you talk about six four,

437
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,360
Speaker 2: three hundred and seventeen pounds, the athletic ability has man.

438
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,880
Speaker 2: If he could somehow get to you, boy, that would

439
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 2: be a big get for the Cowboys.

440
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,560
Speaker 3: All right, let's do a little top three, because you

441
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 3: guys know I love my top ten lists, so I

442
00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,400
Speaker 3: want to go ahead and name I'll name my top

443
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,399
Speaker 3: three three round selections. If the Cowboys came away with this,

444
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,760
Speaker 3: I'm having a party on draft night.

445
00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 2: You guys can give me yours.

446
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,359
Speaker 3: If you like anything that I've done here, go ahead

447
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,399
Speaker 3: and share that with me, and then we can go ahead,

448
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 3: maybe take some questions for those of you that want

449
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 3: to ask us anything here on draft one on one.

450
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here.

451
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 3: I think you guys know obviously Graham Barton duke center

452
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,960
Speaker 3: twenty four, I'd be thrilled with. I am willing to

453
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,359
Speaker 3: take the risk at fifty six. Now I don't have

454
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,920
Speaker 3: the medical report, right, I think, talk to me, Peyton

455
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 3: Wilson's the best linebacker in this draft.

456
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 4: And instead of this in the wolf Pack or instead

457
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,200
Speaker 4: of that in the Texas Longhorns.

458
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 3: I thought you were going Jonathan Brooks. No, no, I'm

459
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 3: not going Jonathan Brooks. And the reason is is I

460
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,560
Speaker 3: think that there's a running back in the third round

461
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 3: that I could get that I like quite a bit

462
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 3: as well. And I think this one it's not that

463
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 3: one because I think Trayvinsky's going to be off the board,

464
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,399
Speaker 3: but that's my RB one is Trey Benson. But I

465
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 3: think Peyton Wilson. I think linebacker is more likely. Maybe

466
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 3: a spot you've got to address in the second round,

467
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 3: because I think running back.

468
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 2: Stretches a little bit more to me in the third.

469
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 3: Now, I could see the Cowboys one hundred percent going

470
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 3: ahead and taking Jonathan Brooks out of Texas be a

471
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 3: good pick. He's my running back too. I wouldn't be

472
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,880
Speaker 3: upset with it. But you need a linebacker. Peyton Wilson

473
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,360
Speaker 3: the tape when you turn it on, he's faring away

474
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: the best in the draft. I don't think there's any

475
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: question mark when it comes to rushing the passer, tackling

476
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 3: in space, coverage ability. The questions are all the medical history.

477
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 3: And in the second round, I mean we are in

478
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 3: a building where they've taken some guys a medical history

479
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: because the talent's just too darn good to pass up.

480
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 3: This guy, though, has played two years of clean football,

481
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 3: and I'm hoping that maybe that's behind him.

482
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: I just him.

483
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 3: I'd go ahead and say talent's too good to pass up.

484
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 3: Edgerrian Cooper would be my other name out of A

485
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 3: and M the linebacker there. I'd take them both ahead

486
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 3: of Junior Golson out of Michigan. But at three, it's

487
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 3: Jalen Wright, running back at A Tennessee. I love Jalen Wright,

488
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 3: the explosiveness. I think he's gonna be a three down back.

489
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 3: To me, he's fantastic, and I think he's probably one

490
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: of the more underrated running backs in the drafts. Listen

491
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 3: to Draft show, Bucky Irving, I know his Nicks guy.

492
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: You know I love Jalen Wright. Brian, I know you're

493
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 3: a fan as well.

494
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah I am too. You know, if I had to

495
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: look at my perfect draft, I think Powers Johnson, the

496
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: center from Oregon, would be the guy that would take.

497
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: I really do like Wilson a lot from and I've

498
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: even I'm old enough to have scouted Luke Keigley when

499
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 2: he played when he came out of Boston College. I

500
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: think this kid has those kinds of traits. His ability

501
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 2: to play down hill, the ability to cover, the ability

502
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: to play sideline to sideline. The only thing holding him

503
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: back is this injury history, you know, and again that's something,

504
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: but I would absolutely love the opportunity to have him.

505
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 2: What you did with the I like what you did

506
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: with the running back though in the third round. Me

507
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: personally like Lloyd the running back from USC a little

508
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: bit better than right Alan Irbing. I think that there's

509
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: going to be some value there with those guys. So

510
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: to me, if you could, if you give me that

511
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: that that killer at the at the center, a linebacker

512
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: that will make every single tackle, and then a running

513
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 2: back with some elusiveness, ability to catch the football, make

514
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: people miss, kind of help your offensive line. So you

515
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: think you're doing yourself some good work there.

516
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 5: We're going dream scenario here, dreams, Okay, dreams, sell me

517
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 5: on dreams. Well, my first round pick would be Troy Fatanu.

518
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 5: Then that that would be I think see Lamb situation

519
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 5: and here we go at twenty four. Yeah, it's it's unlikely,

520
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 5: but that would be the dream scenario. Second round, I'm

521
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 5: still going Jonathan Brooks. I I love what he did

522
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 5: in his one season. I love what he'd do with

523
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 5: his one season as a star with the Long Horns.

524
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 5: I mean, you talk about contact balance, you talk about

525
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 5: being able to fight through guys. He's still is elusive

526
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 5: out of the backfield as well as a receiving option.

527
00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

528
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 5: They understand the medical reports in this building with the

529
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 5: Cowboys team doctor performing the surgery on that ACL and

530
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 5: like you said, there is no hesitance in this building

531
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 5: when it comes to injury guys. So second round Jonathan Brooks,

532
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 5: and then third round you would have to address that

533
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 5: defensive tackle or linebacker position. For me, I'm going defensive tackle,

534
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 5: and I would like to go McKinley Jackson there in

535
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 5: the third round out of Texas A and m just

536
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 5: a wide body that you can put at one tech

537
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 5: and be able to fill those running lanes. Look, Mazzie

538
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 5: Smith coming back next year. I don't think anyone really

539
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 5: understands what's going to happen there. He lost a lot

540
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 5: of weight towards the back end of the season last year.

541
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 5: He's dealing with a shoulder injury going into the year.

542
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 5: And as of right now, that's your only one tech.

543
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 5: I feel like that has to be addressed in the

544
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 5: first two days. Go ahead and get McKinley Jackson there

545
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 5: in the third and hope that he can come in

546
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 5: and at least provide a wide body. If Mazzi is

547
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 5: not able to come onto the field or if he's

548
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 5: not what they expected.

549
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: When did you go Jackson in the third? Because you

550
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: know that the one technique defensive tackles it's not deep

551
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 2: at all.

552
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not deep at all.

553
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 5: And I feel like I can get a linebacker there

554
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 5: on day three where you can still have some really

555
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 5: good value. We talk about guys like Jordan McGee out

556
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 5: of Temple. That's an option that you could you could

557
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: possibly throw out at linebacker. I'm trying to think of

558
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 5: guys right off the top of my head. At Afonola

559
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 5: Fohio out of Washington. I think he's another guy that

560
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: you could you could get there on day three. So

561
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 5: I think there's a little bit wall out of Kentucky. Yeah,

562
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 5: I think he goes into the third, and I think

563
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 5: that's probably the discussion you have.

564
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 6: Do you want to go ahead and jump on tray Love.

565
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan. I mean, if you don't take

566
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: linebacker on the second, I'm iin Wallas in the third.

567
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, he brings a lot to the table.

568
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 5: And you have to also understand, if you're picking there

569
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 5: at eighty seven and there's no trades involved, you're not

570
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 5: picking again until one seventy four late in the fifth round,

571
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 5: So you're you'all can sleep in on day three. There's

572
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 5: there's not gonna be a whole lot going on until

573
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 5: that pick one seventy four if there's not a trade mate.

574
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 5: So I want to make sure and I get a

575
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 5: position where I know there's a bigger need, and for me,

576
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 5: that's defensive tackle over line.

577
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: Okay, if there's no trades. Though, to me, where I

578
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: think Jackson from Texas A and M fits for you

579
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: is if you do back up, if you get that

580
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: extra Yeah, because you get that at high frigg. And

581
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: I know if you watched the draft show that we

582
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: did this morning, we went, we traded back and then

583
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: we traded back up. So if you want to go

584
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: back and kind of get an idea how the landscape

585
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: might be for that, we did that this morning. But Yeah,

586
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: to me, I think that Jackson is if you pick

587
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: up that extra pick, you know, but man, he is

588
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: a really good player for texting three hundred and twenty

589
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: six pound guy that plays on the other side of

590
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmag.

591
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah to me, I mean it's funny because you're talking

592
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: about him as a one tech and that's the guy

593
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: typically you think, like.

594
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: What you drafted Mazie, Right, that's what kicking me in

595
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 2: the butt, right, But what excites me the most.

596
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: About McKinley Jackson is actually his disruptiveness up the field, right, Yeah,

597
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: I mean he's got.

598
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: Some pass rush ability for a one tech, Right, what

599
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: about you, Bobby?

600
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Fittano is the dream at twenty four

601
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 9: for me. I don't know how tainable it is, but look,

602
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 9: I think that when you look at what was most

603
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 9: wrong with this football team at the end of the year,

604
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 9: like I think we would say that it was the

605
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 9: running game on both sides of the ball.

606
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 10: Who was stopping the run? It was being able to

607
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 10: generate the running game.

608
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 9: And then you know, you've got some peripheral traits that

609
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 9: you would maybe talk about, like you want the glass eaters,

610
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 9: you want the toughness, you want the guys with the

611
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 9: edge on them, and so to me, I think Fatanu

612
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 9: fits that on the offensive line. It's it's gonna be

613
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 9: tough figuring out center. But I mean at that point

614
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 9: the value would just be too high for me, So

615
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 9: Fatanu there. And then in the second round it's Eddrian

616
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 9: Cooper because I I do think that that's somebody who's

617
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 9: a chance to be really special.

618
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 10: And look, I know you've got a pass to.

619
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 9: Absolutely and that's somebody who like a lot of times

620
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 9: we see, you know, these hair on fire type of

621
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 9: linebackers that have come out in recent years where we

622
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 9: but we start watching them at times and it shows

623
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 9: up in there a lot Brian and your reports too.

624
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 9: A lot of times we end up describing these guys like,

625
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 9: well they're guess or so like when when they gets

626
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 9: the right, when they guess right, they hit it and

627
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 9: it's impressive and when it gets wrong it's ugly. And

628
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 9: I think that with Cooper, to me, I see a

629
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 9: lot of natural instincts that the longer that he's in place,

630
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 9: it doesn't mean that he's always in his run fits

631
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 9: the right way, He misses, he over pursues at times,

632
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 9: but I think the instincts overall are really good. And

633
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 9: and you know, with Eric Kendricks being here for probrobably

634
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 9: just a year, I think that overshown and Cooper is

635
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 9: a dou It would be great. And then in the

636
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 9: third round you're looking at a running back. I mean,

637
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 9: I could say dream and say pray everybody is scared

638
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 9: away by Jonathan Brooks's knee, but I'm not gonna cheat.

639
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 9: So instead I'll say oddric Estime from Notre Dame.

640
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: I Guestime.

641
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: That's another name that we haven't talked about a ton

642
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: and he's a good player.

643
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 10: And that's it.

644
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 9: I mean, for those of you that aren't familiar with

645
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 9: adrog Estimate from Notre Dame, this is not going to

646
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 9: be a Tony Pollard replacement.

647
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: No, that's a downhill between the tackles I'm gonna run

648
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: you over.

649
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 9: But I mean that's something that they could use. Is

650
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 9: they could use physicality, they could use toughness, they could

651
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 9: use that edge in the running game. And so to me,

652
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 9: you remember a couple of years ago in the Tyler

653
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 9: Smith draft that seemed to be a big folks for

654
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 9: them to like, let's identify toughness as a trait and

655
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 9: include that in our prioritization, and I think that they're

656
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 9: kind of back to that spot again. I think if

657
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 9: you get those three, you're getting three really tough players

658
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 9: who really help set the tone in the run game

659
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 9: on both sides.

660
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: You could look at these first three picks and there's

661
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: a lot of names that have been circling that have

662
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 4: those medical red flags. I know Peyton Wilson we talked

663
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: about extensively, Jackson Powers, Johnson has some medical concerns. Jonathan Brooks.

664
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 4: In my dream, there's no hurt guys, none of that.

665
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: I don't want any medical red flags in my first

666
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 4: three picks. So I'm gonna go with Graham Barton early.

667
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: I think Graham Barton is shoulder training camp, it's been passed,

668
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: we're fine, everything's good. But yes, I'm gonna have Graham

669
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: Barton as ze first pick. Overall, the dream continues with

670
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: Edgrin Cooper and for the same thing there, I'm dreaming

671
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: of the world where Demarvin Overshown and Edgering Cooper on

672
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: the field together and interchangeable back and forth, tons of link,

673
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: tons of athleticism, pass rush ability, and really that sideline,

674
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: the sideline that you've been missing, and a physicality you've

675
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: been missing at the second level, and a guy that

676
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 4: hasn't had the same injury history as a guy like

677
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: a Peyton Wilson.

678
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: As fun as Wilson's tape is.

679
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: To watch to watch, I'm still worried overall about what

680
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: he can bring speed the third one.

681
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: My dream is still alive, though.

682
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: I think Trey Benson does fall a little bit further

683
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: with early, and I've got Benson higher than right. I'd

684
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: love it if you were there, I'd take Benson over.

685
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 4: And here's here's the reason why this is not one

686
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: of those running back classes with b John Robinson. This

687
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 4: isn't a running back class with Jimi or Gibbs. This

688
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: isn't that same level of class. We're talking about Jonathan Brooks,

689
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: who barely has an a c L that's up front early,

690
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: and you're still trying to talk about him being the

691
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: pick at fifty six.

692
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: I should thought that you thought I had ride it

693
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: too no one way down to the I was afraid

694
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 3: Benson's my one, Brooks is my two.

695
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 7: Do you think he's gonna fall all the way down

696
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 7: to No?

697
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: I don't. In kyle'sa it is a dream scenario.

698
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: I think it's possible the running back position isn't valued

699
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: as much as he used to.

700
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: Be, and I think there's an opportunity for these guys

701
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: to fall. I don't.

702
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 9: I don't know that he falls all the way down

703
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 9: to them in the third round. I would be very

704
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 9: surprised at this point if Trey Benson went in the

705
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 9: first two.

706
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, But with that being said, if I don't,

707
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: I can be optimistic about this.

708
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 9: I mean, I like Trey Benson. I have him in

709
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 9: the second, but I do I would be surprised if

710
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 9: he in the first two round.

711
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: You've got Braylan Allen sitting there too, and you talk

712
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: about a physical runner and a guy that could be

713
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: that back and forth, that downhill between the facles. I

714
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 4: like Allan out of Wisconsin as my backup scenario. If

715
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: Benson isn't there and I still need to take a

716
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: running back in the third, okay, I would probably just

717
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: go with Ray Davis so the Kentucky and talked them down.

718
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: What do you got an issue?

719
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 5: So?

720
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay?

721
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 8: So are we agreeing that if Talise Fuaga fall to

722
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 8: fail to you, you're just gonna move him to the

723
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 8: other side to left?

724
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah?

725
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 12: Oh, Okay, so we're dreaming. So yeah, we're dreaming as

726
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 12: far as I mean. I've also heard there's some guard love.

727
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 12: There's tell you there's some guard love from scouts. Don't

728
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 12: stress me out, just say it.

729
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 10: Just want to go out.

730
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 8: Just let me go.

731
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 6: Get a little bit more complex.

732
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: But only we're playing Madden. That's what we're doing now.

733
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: Now.

734
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 7: First round pick, I think Talis.

735
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 8: He just comes in and his temperament is just he's

736
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: a tone setter, and I think that's something that you're

737
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 8: looking for on your offensive line. It wasn't that many

738
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 8: times I saw a bat snaps from him, I don't

739
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 8: know about, y'all. And just how quickly he can get

740
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 8: to the second second level, to the second level, like

741
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 8: we talked about, is important to me as well. So

742
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 8: I would go with him for my first round pick.

743
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 8: For my second round pick, I decided, y'all that if

744
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 8: if they not going to address DT, then they just

745
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 8: need to score a whole bunch of points.

746
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: So for me, I I would like Ricky PIERSO, look

747
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: at you, Okay, look at you. I was going to

748
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: ask the question, nobody picked a wide receiver. Everybody.

749
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: Nobody thought about a receiver in the first two. I'm

750
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: so proud of you right now.

751
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 7: I'm only doing it.

752
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 8: I'm only doing it because I I just think that

753
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 8: he could be a really good addition to this, uh,

754
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 8: this offense. Do some things underneath? Is the route running

755
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 8: is there from him? He's really smooth in and out

756
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 8: of his brakes. But then also too, you look at

757
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 8: Brandon Cooks. Yeah, he's here for another year, but you

758
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 8: you need to be trying to plan for the future

759
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 8: a little bit. That wide receiver corps after Brandon Cooks.

760
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 8: I mean there's there's still Jayling tober, but we're still

761
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 8: seeing wait for him to take a step up as well.

762
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 7: So for my third round pick'm uh uh, Brian already

763
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 7: said it.

764
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 8: I think Marshawn Lloyd out of USC will be a

765
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 8: fantastic addition to this backfield runs with some toughness. I

766
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 8: like his vision and how he's able to slash and

767
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 8: things like that. So at this point, if you're not

768
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 8: going to touch DT early, then let's just score a

769
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 8: whole bunch of points in offense.

770
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 6: Offense.

771
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: Offense absolutely sit the return of team forty Burger or

772
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: is that what we're doing?

773
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, somebody who something the draft.

774
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: To fans out there know that they got that, and

775
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm heavy on DT.

776
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 8: I think, like I know, Bobby feels very strongly about

777
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 8: the fact that, hey, you already you did.

778
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: That last year, but you want to take a DT.

779
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 7: Bobby, he doesn't want to take one early early.

780
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: Like I understand that.

781
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 9: Look, you you you gave up a fourth round pick.

782
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 9: You have not really done anything in free agency. You've

783
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 9: signed two outside free agents, right, Royce Freeman the running back,

784
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 9: and then you went and got Eric Hendricks. You've lost

785
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 9: four defensive linemen. So I understand, like you do need

786
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 9: defensive line help everything else. But when you're talking about

787
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 9: what can you afford to do right now, what is

788
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 9: not only within your budget like financially, but what's within

789
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 9: your budget in terms of capital. To me, last year

790
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 9: they had a very passionate argument. We all saw the

791
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 9: miked up segment and like we've heard the discussion about it,

792
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 9: there was a very passionate argument about Matthew Berger on

793
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 9: the offensive lineman or Mazzie Smith the defensive tackle. And

794
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 9: they made their commitment twelve months ago. We were twelve

795
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 9: months removed from them saying this is a first round player.

796
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 9: This is somebody we're willing to take over a premium

797
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 9: position an offensive line.

798
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 10: This is what we're going to do.

799
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 9: So with so many legitimate holes until you figure out

800
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 9: where Tyler Smith is playing, until you settle on that,

801
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 9: you currently have three holes in terms of starting positions

802
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 9: on your offensive line. You've got holes in the linebackers,

803
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 9: you know, the edge rusher's got a lot of holes

804
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 9: with depth. To me, one of the areas where you

805
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 9: can't sacrifice right now is say, we've got to be

806
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 9: able to trust that OsO Degeizua is going to continue

807
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 9: to be a great three technique and the guy we

808
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 9: graded as a top fifteen player or whatever it was

809
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 9: a year ago. We need to bank on that evaluation,

810
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 9: trust the evaluation, and we need to trust this new

811
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 9: coaching staff that we brought in to bring that out

812
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 9: of him, because that at least you have something to

813
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 9: bank on right now with offensive line and other positions

814
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 9: on the field, it's like, well, you don't even have

815
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 9: anything to hope for because there's not a player there

816
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 9: right now.

817
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 10: It's empty.

818
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 9: And so I just want I understand if it was

819
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 9: a if you had six picks in the first three rounds,

820
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 9: you had this wealth of draft capital, I'd be all four.

821
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 10: Taking a defensive tackle as well.

822
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 9: It's just with the limited resources, is that the most

823
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 9: efficient use for a team that needs to win right now?

824
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: What about you bring a wide receiver maybe sneaky need.

825
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: I think I could make the same argument for corner.

826
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: What do you have right now behind Digs and Bland

827
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 3: and Lewis sure that you feel good about But Eric

828
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: Scott Junior, they did move up and draft. Now you

829
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 3: got a different defensive coaching staff in there. I mean

830
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: you have and you're banking on Digs coming back from

831
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: an injury, and we've seen sometimes that doesn't always go

832
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: as you had hoped. Uh, there's some good corners that

833
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 3: you could take from rounds two through four. Maybe it's

834
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: a TJ. Tampa at Iowa State. Maybe it's Kyrie Jackson

835
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 3: out of Oregon. You know, maybe there's a slot guy

836
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: that you like, Jerry and Jones out of Florida State

837
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 3: you could take early day three.

838
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: I mean, would would corner come into your mind at all?

839
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 13: Here?

840
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: Brian? It's such a deep position right now. It's kind

841
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: of like the wide receiver thing. You know, you mentioned Jackson,

842
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: and I know that my colleague here. We our young

843
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: man out of Oregon. We kind of thought about it

844
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 2: and he's an alpha. We kind of thought about him

845
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: as maybe a third round guy. Now he's at the

846
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: bottom of the first You know, there's this you know,

847
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: a guy with length, sticky ability. That's what Mike Zimmer.

848
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: Mike and I go way way back. I've worked with Mike.

849
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: I know what Mike wants in a corner. He wants

850
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: a guy that's got some length to him. He wants

851
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: guys that are five to eleven or better. He's wants

852
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: guys that are sticky, kind of man cover type ability,

853
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: uh to that, you know, interchangeable safeties. There's a lot

854
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: of things that Mike really really desires. But that corner back,

855
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: the position of it is so deep, but there's so

856
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: many different body types there. So to me, again, I

857
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: like what I U should do with the wide receiver

858
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: because it's a little bit different. It's a little bit

859
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: out outside the box. And I love Ricky Piersaw by

860
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: the way, that's one of my favorite players. But to me, though,

861
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: I think I could wait a little bit on the corner,

862
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: you know, if I had to, Because when I'm stacking

863
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: my board. I'm down. I've got two hundred and fifteen players.

864
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: I'm at player one forty two. I can't tell you

865
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 2: how many how hard it's been for me to kind

866
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: of put these corners in spots because you want to

867
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: give them their due, you know, you want to say, Okay,

868
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: this guy's got this, this guy, and then you kind

869
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: of clump them together. You're like, man, does that seem right?

870
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: And you're going, yeah, that's so. I kind of feel

871
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: like though, that in this draft, they're going to look

872
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: at some other positions. Maybe the receivers are the same way,

873
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: but the cornerback is something I feel like that they

874
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 2: could look at through the whole draft and probably grab

875
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: somebody they're really really happy with. That might be the

876
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: ext ron Bland.

877
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 9: I'm curious when you look at the fact that they

878
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 9: don't have a fourth round pick right now. Let's say

879
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 9: they stand in pick in the first three rounds and

880
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 9: so they don't pick again until the fifth round. Receiver corner,

881
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 9: that's where everybody feels most comfortable that.

882
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 10: You've got it.

883
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: That maybe edge in the baby edge.

884
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 9: So in the fifth round you say edge receiver corner,

885
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 9: that that's a position you think you might be able

886
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 9: to still have a fourth round graded player there when

887
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 9: you pick in the fifth.

888
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, receiver, receiver, I think corner, yeah yeah, receiver,

889
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: corner edge might be one of those guys that were

890
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 4: one of those positions where you say, okay, if you

891
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: had a fourth round pick and you're sleeping on your

892
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: board going into day three, you might even have a

893
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: third round grade on some of those guys.

894
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: But when you get into that that that fifth round

895
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: pick was at one seventy one, there might be a

896
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: fourth round player still on your board.

897
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: All right, do we have questions here for draft one

898
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: on one? We'll open it up to questions. We have

899
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 3: the mic right over here. If you want to go,

900
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: step up, go ahead to introduce yourself, tell us your name,

901
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: where you're from, and uh, we're here to answer whatever

902
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: you got.

903
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 10: Hello. My name's Aaron Thacker.

904
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 6: I'm from Sherman, Texas.

905
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 14: And my question would be, if you have like later

906
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 14: round picks, like your fifth and sixth, would you possibly

907
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 14: And again I don't know enough about like the compensation thing,

908
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 14: so that's why I'm asking this, would you be able

909
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 14: to use that to trade up to get that fourth

910
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 14: round pick that you're missing, so that way you could

911
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 14: do that, or would you have to like get give

912
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 14: up next year's capital as well to do that.

913
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 10: That's my question, thank y'all.

914
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: What do you, Bobby, what do do you know, like

915
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: trade char wise or pile? Do you have that up? Yeah,

916
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: I've got the trade jar right here.

917
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 4: So pick one seventy four is worth twenty two points

918
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 4: ultimately to try and move up. And you've got a

919
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: couple picks after one seventy four, but that's the highest

920
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 4: value pick outside of the top one hundred. The most

921
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: you could move up from pick one seventy four, and

922
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: it's still be able if even if you package the

923
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: rest of your draft, the earliest you would even get

924
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: close to is.

925
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: About pick one twenty. That's about all you've got, So it.

926
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: Would most likely to your point, if you're going to

927
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 4: move up at some point and try and finagle that

928
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: fourth round pick back into your possession, you're gonna do

929
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: it using next year's draft capital, either a third or

930
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: a fourth try and package maybe with one seventy four

931
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: one of those other later picks in.

932
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: Order to move up and try and get back in

933
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: that fourth round.

934
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 5: And I think there's an interesting point to make there

935
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: as far as next year's draft capital is concerned, just

936
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: because the one benefit to losing a million free agents,

937
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: it says you might get a million compicks, so you

938
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 5: might be able to package a couple of those next

939
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 5: year with the.

940
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: Expectations that Day three is going to be a blast.

941
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 6: Now yeah here, oh man, Day three, we're gonna we're

942
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 6: ten picks.

943
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 10: It's gonna be great.

944
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: When you when you look at the trading up and

945
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: trading backs, the pick the picks from, Like if you

946
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: go back to Tampa at twenty six, you would pick

947
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: up their one twenty five, which is a fourth round pick,

948
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: such a two spot move for four if you did

949
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: a trade with the Arizona at twenty seven. So I'm

950
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: just going down what we did this morning. You pick

951
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: up pick one thirty eight and pick one sixty two

952
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: from Arizona. Those are two fives. What we did this

953
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: morning is we took those two fives and we tried

954
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: to go up back up into the into the into

955
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: the draft and then and had some options there we

956
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: went to let's see where we went to there. We

957
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: went from the after the Arizona trade, when we pick

958
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: up the two fives, we took pick one thirty eight,

959
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: one sixty two, one seventy four, which was our own

960
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: all fifth round picks, and we tried to take that

961
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: thing all the way to the chargers at one oh five.

962
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: The chargers got two picks in the fourth So what

963
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: you could do is you could take if you made

964
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: a deal with Arizona, if you made it do with Arizona,

965
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: you could you can move those two fifth round picks

966
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: with your own fifth round pick and move that thing

967
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: all the way up to try and get into the

968
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: the one oh five to one to ten range. So

969
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: that's how you would get your four uh, if you

970
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: wanted to do that, But it's gonna cost you your

971
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: the the two picks you got, the two fifth round picks,

972
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: push your own fifth round pick.

973
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that that's when you're talking about trying

974
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 9: to get into the fourth round. If you want to

975
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 9: go get into the fourth round. I don't know how

976
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 9: much you are. Teams aren't going to let you in

977
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 9: there all the time. Yeah, And I don't know how

978
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 9: much you want to sacrifice to move up, Like I

979
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 9: think it is gonna have to be an instance where

980
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 9: you move back, because I mean, we're sitting here lamenting

981
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 9: the loss of a fourth round pick and that could

982
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 9: be a real value to them, and talking about giving

983
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 9: up extra capital. I understand it's later day through, but

984
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 9: you're talking about giving up extra capital or future capital.

985
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 9: And at that point you're kind of chasing your tail

986
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 9: trying to catch those picks back a little bit. And

987
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 9: so to me, I think that if you're gonna get

988
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 9: up into the fourth round, it's gotta be you're moving

989
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 9: back somehow in the first or second and finding somebody

990
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 9: who will give you that extra pick.

991
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: BUTTERI you want to trade with this Kansas City. Kansas

992
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: City and Buffalo are the two that I think are

993
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: the most likely. Well, if they need a wide receiver,

994
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: both teams need to go up and get a guy.

995
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: It's funny because if you look at and the way

996
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: in the NFL what we do is each each selection

997
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: has a value of points, and when you start to

998
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: trade with the teams behind you, if you make trades

999
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: would say Tampa Bay there, your total points would be

1000
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: four oh two. That's the highest you could get by

1001
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: just moving back two spots and picking up that fourth

1002
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: your point total goes to four oh two. Arizona's trade

1003
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: would be the next highest at four hundred. Buffalo's at

1004
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: four hundred, the Baltimore trade is at three ninety seven.

1005
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: San Francisco's trade is at three ninety and then but

1006
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: Kansas City's at four oh one. So if you were

1007
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: willing to go from twenty four to thirty two, you

1008
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: would get the best value for your trade is if

1009
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: you went all the way back to Kansas City and

1010
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: picked up there and picked up there there, because what

1011
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: they're offering you is offering you pick ninety five, which

1012
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: is a third round pick and pick one thirty three,

1013
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: which is a fourth So now you're doing some good

1014
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: right there. That would give you pick thirty two, pick

1015
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: fifty six, pick eighty seven, pick ninety five, pick one

1016
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: thirty one, pick one seventy four, pick two sixteen, pick

1017
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: two thirty three, pick two forty four. Now we're doing

1018
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: some damage here, you know. Now we're now we're making

1019
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: our team a little bit better. But do you have

1020
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: the stomach to go from twenty four to thirty two?

1021
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: That's what you have to That's what they're going to

1022
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: have to determine in this room, you know, and you

1023
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: don't want to trade. We we gave scenarios of guys

1024
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: that we would take at twenty four, and I think

1025
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: we're all committed to those guys. Yeah so or yeah,

1026
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: I think you're more open to that. That's what I'm saying.

1027
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: How committed are you when somebody like Kansas City calls

1028
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: you and offers you a third and a fourth to

1029
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: come down to their spot. You know that's that's that

1030
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: that tests your metal in that room, whether you're willing

1031
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: to trade away from a guy you really like to

1032
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: pick up a couple extra picks.

1033
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 5: Martin Fatanu Fluaga. All those guys are off the board.

1034
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: You're sitting there at twenty four. Mems are still on

1035
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 5: the board, Latham is still on the board. You're getting

1036
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 5: on the phone and going to thirty two. Yeah, I'd

1037
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: probably be open to moving back. Probably what did you

1038
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: think there?

1039
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 9: I was just say, and I mean thirty two. If

1040
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 9: that's a drop, you're gonna have trouble stomaching, Brian. You

1041
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 9: really don't want to drop to thirty six?

1042
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 10: I guess no.

1043
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 9: Nick was trying to talk me in today. But with

1044
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 9: that Commanders, it's it's an exact trade value chart match.

1045
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 9: If you go back to thirty six, you can get

1046
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 9: seventy eight from them, which they've got three picks in

1047
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 9: the third round. Yeah, I mean that's an exact point.

1048
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 9: Can match up if you want to. If you want

1049
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 9: to get let me tell you what I did. Let

1050
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 9: me tell you what we did today on the show.

1051
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 9: We took the Kansas City trade ninety five and one

1052
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 9: thirty one, and we shoved that thing up to the

1053
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 9: Vegas Raiders.

1054
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Nick got seventy seven.

1055
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 7: Nick convinced us.

1056
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so see, you could take you could take the

1057
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: third round pick, that fourth round pick you get, and

1058
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: if you want to go to the Vegas Raiders at

1059
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: seventy seven and get back into this thing, or you

1060
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: want to take it to Washington at seventy eight, So

1061
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: you could do some things. You could get creative. You

1062
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: could even take trade you made with Baltimore and San

1063
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Francisco and go into the second round if you want.

1064
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, if that's the scenario, we can draft Ricky Piersoll,

1065
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: We can draft a wide receiver, if.

1066
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: We can get some pace here and make it work. Yeah,

1067
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: you got to not get the anytime.

1068
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 6: We sneak Mickinley Jackson in there too, that's too much.

1069
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: You're asking too much here. It's a lot. Now you

1070
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: enjoyed the thunder all right? On next draft question, it's

1071
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Chris from Wiley. I'm gonna go first direction here.

1072
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 13: Let's just say, you know, the Cowboys have been very

1073
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 13: quiet this offseason. Let's just say they decide they want

1074
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 13: to get a little aggressive. And let's say all six

1075
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 13: quarterbacks that you know everybody's talking about. Let's say there's

1076
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 13: a run of quarterbacks in the first before the Cowboys draft.

1077
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 13: What player would you guys be We all know the

1078
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 13: Cowboys need as many draft picks as they can, but

1079
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 13: what player would you guys be comfortable for them to

1080
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 13: move up?

1081
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: Ms Fogga, Falton.

1082
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: Either one.

1083
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those would be the two names. Now

1084
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: it depends on I mean, you might need to move

1085
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: up and go get Barton if he's your guy. With

1086
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: with how this thing's looking, you guys, that wouldn't cost

1087
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: you nearly as much.

1088
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 4: You'd have to get up into the late teens as

1089
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 4: opposed to maybe top fifteen.

1090
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: But you're really going you never know.

1091
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: In Philadelphia has a contingency plan in place to play

1092
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: a center with Kelsey retiring, but you also have seen

1093
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: a history of your division rival with Dallas Goddard where

1094
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: Philadelphia'll say, yeah, we like this guy and we're gonna

1095
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: take him, just to stick it to the Cowboys. If

1096
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: the Eagles took Barton at twenty two, I might throw up,

1097
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: what about Steelers at twenty or another team? Right the

1098
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: Dolphins at nineteen?

1099
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: I will say, Graham Barton just sounds like a Pittsburgh

1100
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: Steelers name, Like I just it does sound like that.

1101
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 4: So he would look good in the yellow and black.

1102
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: He'd look better in blue and silver wood. But I

1103
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: agree with you. I think if you're going to go

1104
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: up and get a guy, it's gonna cost you a

1105
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: lot to go get the fuagas, to go get the fatanus.

1106
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: And as much as that sounds fun, if they're sliding

1107
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: in the late teens, let's let's play around with the idea.

1108
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: But go get a guy if you feel like it,

1109
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: and if you're wanting to be aggressive, go get them

1110
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: if if you have the capital to do so.

1111
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: I just don't necessarily think they have the capital to

1112
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: do so. I'll be.

1113
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 10: Like, I'm just I'm reverse to moving up.

1114
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: Well, But so the Cowboys, though, seem to be too.

1115
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: They haven't moved up since Moke label.

1116
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 9: That's why to me, like you're gonna have to get

1117
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 9: some I mean, you're gonna have to get a a

1118
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 9: Laramie tunsil problem or something and push like Joe Alt

1119
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 9: down the board like before I'm gonna go up.

1120
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: He's got the guess I want to say, you think it's.

1121
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 9: Something like like I mean Latham maybe, like I mean,

1122
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 9: I really there's I like, even these guys that I

1123
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 9: like Latham and Alton, stuff like tackle like likely will

1124
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 9: stretch quality down to you at twenty four?

1125
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 10: Is it enough that I want to go up and

1126
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 10: get it?

1127
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: But that's the thing that the guys around the league

1128
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: are talking about right now, is that all the offense

1129
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: when you're sitting there at twenty four, and we again

1130
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: talked about this on the Draft Show today, you're sitting

1131
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: at twenty four and all these offensive players are going

1132
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: off the board, where's the offensive player for me at

1133
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: twenty four? I mean, Dallas best player on the board

1134
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: might be a defensive player at twenty four or no,

1135
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: and not to say they would take him, but if

1136
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: you look at all these quarterbacks going, all these offensive

1137
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: tackles going, some of these wide receivers going, the best

1138
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: player on the board might be a defensive player for

1139
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: this team. Now will they take him? I'm not saying

1140
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: they will, but yeah, well there you go back. But

1141
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: there you go. I've been in a draft room with

1142
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: these guys and the phone hasn't run. Trust me.

1143
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: I dropped on my knees one time praying that the

1144
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: phone would ring. Please, yeah, please ring? This their video

1145
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: of this?

1146
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: What's that? Their video of that? I wish there was.

1147
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: But seriously, you the room, the room gets like deathly

1148
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: quiet and like you you're just you're praying. And because

1149
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: you've laid the groundwork with all these guys, I mean,

1150
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: you've talked all these teams and told them, hey, listen,

1151
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: we're open. Come on, come up to us. We'll trade you. Come.

1152
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: But you know, you look what happened in the in

1153
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 2: the draft with with with the Travis Frederick. They blew

1154
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: the hatch and bailed with eighteen picks down or eighteen

1155
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: thirty one. Yeah, and you know, sometimes you don't get

1156
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: the value on that. Should you've got a second round

1157
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: on that when second round, well they took a third.

1158
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: Sometimes when you blow the hatches like that, you don't

1159
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: get the value of your pick.

1160
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: How late would you be willing to go down what's

1161
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: the last the last pick you'd be willing to ditch

1162
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: out of the first thirty eight?

1163
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 6: Thirty eight is where thirty.

1164
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 3: Eight I was gonna say, Bobby. Scenario with thirty six

1165
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: is that the commanders. It is the commanders, Yes, Dan Quinn,

1166
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: and that would make me. That would make me nervous

1167
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 3: as well. But I think you can maybe cross your

1168
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: fingers and hope. Like Zach Fery, do you feel like

1169
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 3: you could get the BYU tackle at thirty six?

1170
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, I think so too. I think so thank

1171
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: you'll be I don't know.

1172
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: I think if they're a run on tackles like you're

1173
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: talking about, I don't think Kingsley, Sua Matias last until

1174
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: thirty six.

1175
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 5: I think one of these three guys would be available,

1176
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 5: Sue Matia, Jordan Morgan, Tyler Guiden three would be available there.

1177
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: It depends on what they think Jordan Morgan is. Do

1178
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: they think is he a guard?

1179
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: And if so, if Tyler Smith playing tackle right, then

1180
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: Tyler plays tackle. And you feel good about Morgan at guard,

1181
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 3: you'll let bas and Hoffman I or maybe you take

1182
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 3: it center later.

1183
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: Maybe it's hund Nordals. I don't know if they take Morgan.

1184
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're talking enough about him, because

1185
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: if he is viewed as a guard, it's the same

1186
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: scenario as an interior offensive lineman like Barton and Jackson and.

1187
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: The JC Latham conversation I had, I had, I had

1188
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: a scout in the league, not a cowboy scout, a

1189
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: scout in the league. I asked him about Latham. I said,

1190
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: do you think he could play left tackle? And he says, no,

1191
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: I don't. I think he's a right tackle. But I

1192
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 2: think he's an All Pro guard. He's made. That's That's

1193
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: what I mean. That guy, this this guy that scouts

1194
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: the Southwest area for a team, and he says, I

1195
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: don't think he could play left tackle, but I bet

1196
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: she's an All Pro guard.

1197
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 8: I do want to ask, I mean, what do you

1198
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 8: want to come on? Okay, yeah, I do want to ask.

1199
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 8: You mentioned that we haven't mentioned Jordan Morgan that much.

1200
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 8: I feel like at the start of the draft he

1201
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 8: was everybody was talking about him.

1202
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 7: What was the What shifted? Was it the combine?

1203
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 5: I think for a lot of people length, the length

1204
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 5: is a little concerning to a lot of people. That's

1205
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 5: probably where you start to slot him in at guard instead.

1206
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 5: But for me, durable tons of experience forty plus games, yes,

1207
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 5: didn't allow a lot of sacks, really good and pass

1208
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 5: pro really good to run blocking. Does he do anything exceptional?

1209
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 5: Probably not, But I think he does everything pretty damn well.

1210
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 5: I think he's an all round type player that can

1211
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 5: play guard at the next level and be good at

1212
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 5: doing it. Look, I am team Tyler Tyler Smith at

1213
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 5: left guard, but if they were to draft Jordan Morgan,

1214
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 5: I think he'd be great at left guard and Tyler

1215
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 5: Smith left.

1216
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 10: And I would say this, I don't.

1217
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 9: I think most of the time, whenever there's a discussion

1218
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 9: of when we're trying to figure out, you know, what

1219
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 9: changed or other things like that, I think a lot

1220
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 9: of the times it's we catch up to where media

1221
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 9: scout teams are. I don't think teams have cooled on

1222
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 9: Jordan Morgan. I think teams have if he like I mean,

1223
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 9: if he goes to the second round. I think tams

1224
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 9: Alway viewed him in the second round, and there there

1225
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 9: was probably discussion that was putting him more up in

1226
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 9: the first that teams were like, no, we don't necessarily

1227
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 9: agree with that. So I think very rarely is there

1228
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 9: like a strong push for a guy like that or

1229
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 9: or a big change of opinion. I think a lot

1230
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 9: of times it's just we're catching up to where teams

1231
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 9: are aut with.

1232
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: I watched him block a lot two from UCLA, made

1233
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: him go to the other side, his adjustments, like, I've

1234
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: had enough of this guy killing me all day. I

1235
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna go to the other side.

1236
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: He'll find a way to beat our guy standing on

1237
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 2: one foot.

1238
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 6: I mean, it's his balance is let me go to

1239
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 6: you with the freshman from Scottsdale.

1240
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I'm gonna switch sides, all right, Yes, sir,

1241
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: what do you have for us?

1242
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 15: Hey, Allen from Joshua, Texas. I'm just saying I'm tired

1243
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 15: of our defense, the ball getting ran down their throat

1244
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 15: and the biggest games. I don't know if it's fixable

1245
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 15: in one draft, but or Zimmer is going to change things.

1246
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 10: But that's me, man.

1247
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 15: I know we need offensive tackle, but the defense and

1248
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 15: the run game, you know, the run defense.

1249
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, we get it. We're here for you.

1250
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: I know you've Brian, You've made this assessment where I

1251
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: think we think a lot of the time stopping the

1252
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: run is okay. I need to get big bodies in

1253
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: the middle, and they do. They need to add size,

1254
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: and they thought they were doing so with Mosley safeties

1255
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 3: at Linebacker's tough, right, And I'm still hopeful that Mozzy

1256
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: ends up being a good player. You can't give up

1257
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: on a guy based on one year, don't It's just

1258
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: you took it out in the first round for a reason, right,

1259
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: So it.

1260
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: Didn't go well.

1261
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: You hope you're too He develops and he's got a

1262
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: guy in Mike Zimmer who certainly has done a great

1263
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 3: job developing defensive tackles throughout his career. But do you

1264
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: think that more of the issue? And Brian and then

1265
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts Bobby, and we can

1266
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: kick it around. Is it that they are really that

1267
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: weak at defensive tackle? Is it more so the undersized

1268
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: linebackers or is it the constant issue they seem to

1269
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 3: always have as well with being able to set the

1270
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 3: edge consistently.

1271
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think setting the edge is a big issue.

1272
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: I know we focus a lot on inside and what

1273
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, Hankins and those guys were, but you know, Golston,

1274
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: I mean when I saw and I was working on

1275
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 2: the draft with Golston coming out of Iowa. I thought

1276
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: he was a Tank Lawrence type player when he would

1277
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 2: be able with the pass rush and then the ability

1278
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: to play the run. There were times in those Big

1279
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: Ten games you couldn't see the ball go outside of him.

1280
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: I feel sorry for the guy. They play him at tackle,

1281
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: they play him in, they play him and tackled in.

1282
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 2: It reminds me of Tyron Crawford. They can't find a

1283
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: spot for the guy, and all of a sudden, now

1284
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: you you know he's he's gone by the wayside, and

1285
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: you maybe waste a little bit of a guy there.

1286
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: But I think when you start to talk about the edge,

1287
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: you know they missed the guys like with the Layton

1288
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: vander Esher's and the Shawn Leaves, the guys that can

1289
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: run downhill, the guys that could fill the safeties that

1290
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: could fill they kind of figured out a little bit

1291
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: with digs. You know that you could run the ball

1292
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: on the outside there with digs, and with digs come

1293
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: up and play you and force the corner. You know,

1294
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: you need alley players, you need forced players, you need

1295
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: edge players.

1296
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: They were a little bit weak in all those areas, Bobby,

1297
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 3: one area that you fought for is safety. Do you

1298
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: think some of this can be remedied bot at Washington

1299
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: State kid? Yeah, Hicks Jayden Hicks Absolutely. I mean he's

1300
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: seeking Mitchell out there. Do you think some of this

1301
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 3: could be remedied more so since you're not into tackle

1302
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 3: when it comes to the second and third level, taking

1303
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: a linebacker, taking a safety.

1304
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, So, I mean, I guess it comes down to

1305
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 9: when you see the Cowboys struggle and run defense, why, like, like,

1306
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 9: when you look at it, what is the issue? Like

1307
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 9: in years past, their issue was you know, during the

1308
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 9: christ of Charter, they were always coached like how fast

1309
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 9: they needed to play and a lot of times they

1310
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 9: got caught and over pursuit they would leave these massive

1311
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 9: angles where guys could cut back. That that was a

1312
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 9: problem that they were into at different times. Is this

1313
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 9: a talent problem? Is it a problem with you know

1314
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 9: guys in terms of their ability to read and react.

1315
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 9: Is it like you know, a size issue, like there

1316
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 9: there are these different things that you have to says,

1317
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 9: I don't think that when you look at how the

1318
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 9: Cowboys have addressed defensive tackle in recent years. Jonathan Hankins,

1319
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 9: Neville Gallimore, Quintin Bohanna, like, just different guys like this.

1320
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 9: That size hasn't always been the problem, like I mean,

1321
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 9: it's there are other problems with run fits and reeds

1322
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 9: and keys and everything else like that.

1323
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 10: So to me, I look at it and say, you

1324
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 10: need to get better.

1325
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 9: Obviously along the defensive line, linebackers, safeties like that, that's

1326
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 9: all stuff that that has to happen. To me, they

1327
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 9: are before they worry about depth or anything else, they

1328
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 9: have to figure out who is starting. So I'd love

1329
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 9: a safety that can, you know, like Jane Nicks, who

1330
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 9: can do what he does. I love Eddrian Cooper. I'd

1331
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 9: love to have him in here. Love to have a

1332
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 9: defensive tackle like McKinley Jackson if you have the capital

1333
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 9: to spend on that.

1334
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 2: What Yeah.

1335
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 10: And to me though, it's that the reason why I

1336
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 10: saw it the other way.

1337
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: If he just three hundred and sixty pounds not getting

1338
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: blocked and there's daring atch the four look at it,

1339
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: I'll look the other way. Just okay, just keep keep

1340
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: playing in there.

1341
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 9: Steven Stephen Jones said, you know, this week, maybe in

1342
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 9: last week, I can't remember, but Stephen Jones said that

1343
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 9: they are going to play Mazzie Smith more like what

1344
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 9: he was used to doing at Michigan. Yeah, and and

1345
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 9: so that right there, if you're gonna peck that out,

1346
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 9: you've already made the analysis of what type of a

1347
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 9: player he can be. You've got coaches that you believe in,

1348
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 9: and you want to have, you know, bring that out

1349
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 9: of him. And so to me, I think that if

1350
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 9: you're gonna set him somewhere, he's more comfortable and he

1351
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 9: gets here too, and the conditioning is better and everything else,

1352
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 9: I think that that's something that you have to be

1353
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 9: able to bank on, like of all the things they

1354
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 9: can't bank on, Like, I don't know why it would

1355
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 9: be a prioritization to say, well, I can't bank on

1356
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 9: my first rounder, but I can bank on the undrafted

1357
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 9: free agent center.

1358
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: No, you have to you have to bank on Mazie.

1359
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 9: And to me, that so for me, I recognize fixing

1360
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 9: the run defense in a lot of ways will have

1361
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 9: to come from fixing depth at all three levels. To me,

1362
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 9: the most immediate need to fix your run defense in

1363
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 9: terms of talent that you've assessed, you need a linebacker.

1364
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 9: Is there a linebacker that I would take in the

1365
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 9: first round. No, And so to me, it's the defensive

1366
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 9: side of the ball. Is not even really a question

1367
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 9: for me in the first round.

1368
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 4: To that or I think he said it perfectly because

1369
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: you hear about this all the time. Whenever it comes

1370
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 4: to building your offensive line, you build it from the

1371
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: inside out. You build it from center, and you go

1372
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 4: out to tackle, and you work that way from a

1373
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 4: roster building standpoint. Nate Newton says that all the time

1374
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: whenever we're talking about adding some roster stuff on the

1375
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 4: opposite side. You build from the front to the back.

1376
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: You build from your defensive line, you win in the trenches,

1377
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: then you add to the second level and you go

1378
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 4: to the backside. I don't think the Cowboys are horrific

1379
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 4: at safety. Now, is there room to improve? Absolutely, you

1380
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: can improve anywhere on that defense, especially against the run,

1381
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: like this gentleman was talking about a moment ago. If

1382
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 4: you're able to give some help to those linebackers at

1383
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 4: the second level, that's when I start building confidence in

1384
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 4: stopping the run. So I think a big defensive tackle

1385
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 4: can help. I think banking on Mazie and seeing him

1386
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: go back to what he did best at Michigan which

1387
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: was stop the run, clog up the middle, and not

1388
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: try this pass rush stuff that obviously didn't work as

1389
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 4: a rookie. I think Bobby's onto something here of building

1390
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: your team from the forward part to to the secondary

1391
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 4: and making it work from there strong up the middle.

1392
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 5: Let me ask really quick, if Mazie Smith is not

1393
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 5: ready for the start of the season, or he gets

1394
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 5: hurt at some point in the season, who's your one tech.

1395
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: Carl Davis Carl Davis practice squad for most of the

1396
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 5: year last year.

1397
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: I mean, we've moved Chauncey back and forth of one

1398
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: hundred times. You just throw him inside and see what happened.

1399
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 8: I would hope not they would put so he's put

1400
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 8: him back at his home edge rusher edge. I wanted

1401
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 8: to add really quickly. I wanted to add about you know,

1402
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 8: being able to set the edge. I do think it's

1403
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 8: going to be important for them to find an edge

1404
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 8: that is opposite of tank, that's disciplined, because we've just

1405
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 8: seen teams attack you there and have a lot of

1406
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 8: success there, and a lot of time when they when

1407
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 8: teams were running the ball on the Cowboys, it was

1408
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 8: bouncing to the outside. It wasn't just running up the interior,

1409
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 8: and with how teams are trying to attack those angles,

1410
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 8: it's going to become more of an issue. I've even

1411
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 8: talked about this draft is and the DM position as

1412
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 8: a whole is like it's really this or that with

1413
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 8: a lot of these guys. If you find an edge

1414
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 8: in the draft that's willing to rush the passer but

1415
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 8: also can stop the run at a high clip and

1416
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 8: really stay square and do it, then it's a luxury

1417
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 8: at this point. So edge is in need as well,

1418
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 8: A serious wonder that we probably should talk about a.

1419
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: Little bit more.

1420
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 7: Chop Robinson.

1421
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: To get off right. He does not want to shop Robinson.

1422
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: Shop Robinson will blow up the play and then he

1423
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: will not make the tackle or he will not finish

1424
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: the sack. But goodness gracious, the way he gets off

1425
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: the snap is insane.

1426
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: I think I'm done limiting Penn State linebackers or edge

1427
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: rushers coming out of college.

1428
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: I think I'm done waiting on that one. You know,

1429
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: this Michigan thing, we got a line developing here.

1430
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: I like this where we're going, all right, Zach Waldough,

1431
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: Oh it's up man, I'm glad you came.

1432
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 16: I appreciate it. Man, I'm bringing up a talk. We

1433
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 16: talked a lot about it in private.

1434
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: You know, I hate.

1435
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 16: Limiting Jordan Morgan to the interior. I was like, I've

1436
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 16: seen this guy with people that these other tackles haven't

1437
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 16: been able to whoop. I was like, I've seen Tyler

1438
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 16: guiding not being able to finish in the run game,

1439
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 16: consistently not playing.

1440
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: With leverage, even though I know he's a big dude.

1441
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 16: Sure, I was like, but you know, I've been against

1442
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 16: really tall tackles for a variety of reasons. That's one

1443
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 16: of the big reasons. I was like, this guy is

1444
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 16: the perfect size for the for the position. If a

1445
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 16: guy knows how to play with his hands, play with leverage,

1446
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 16: play with k me band, has the foot quickness, this

1447
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 16: guy could play tackle. But I go back to this

1448
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 16: team's done a lot of work with Jordan Morgan. I mean,

1449
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 16: we talked about it. I remember I brought it up

1450
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 16: to you in January. Sure, they asked him, was like,

1451
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 16: who's the team that you talked to the most throughout

1452
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 16: the bar says He named four teams, Arizona remember Arizona

1453
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 16: being one of them, but the Cowboys were one of them.

1454
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 16: He's like, they talked to me. We've talked a lot

1455
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 16: throughout the present.

1456
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: This was January. We go to the combine.

1457
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 16: Nick you had asked him about the Cowboys and he

1458
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 16: brought up the versatility of left tackle and right tackle,

1459
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 16: not necessarily guard.

1460
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: So I was like, we keep trying to limit him

1461
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: to the guard.

1462
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 16: And then they went to his pro day him Baltimore

1463
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 16: and the Jets spent a lot of time with him

1464
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 16: before all the work out. They have to stop the

1465
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 16: workout just because how much time they were spending with

1466
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 16: them pre pre all the other positional drills. That's just

1467
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 16: like for me, it was like I'm just banging that.

1468
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 16: This is me banging the table for sure, staying on

1469
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 16: the table. This guy can come in. He's gonna be

1470
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 16: a lot better than a lot of the guys are

1471
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 16: going to be drafted ahead of them, and I just

1472
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 16: have a sick fill and we're gonna pass on them,

1473
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 16: and he's gonna end up in Washington, who's doing.

1474
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: Their own homework on them, or San Francisco or San Francisco,

1475
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: and we're gonna watch him be a stud over there.

1476
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: That's my only thought there.

1477
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate it. Well, but Brian, did he sell

1478
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: you anymore on Jordan Morgan? I know you were a

1479
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: fan of him early on as well.

1480
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate him, by the way, I got lunch for

1481
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: you for that that speech you just made, right, Walda

1482
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: puts in the bark. Yeah, I do, I owe you

1483
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: for that one. No, I think I issue was right.

1484
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: We talked about this when the Draft show was rolling

1485
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: very early. Uh, this was a guy that Jordan Morgan was,

1486
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: you know, a guy that we watched very early. And

1487
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: I think you're right. There's a lot of qualities about

1488
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: but there's probably some things that you know, with Mike

1489
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: Salari the line coach, it's different with every line coach.

1490
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: You know, he has a certain type of way that

1491
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: he wants to play hands feet length. All these things

1492
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: are things that these offensive line coaches they go around,

1493
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 2: they kind of get their guys, and you know, Jordan

1494
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: Morgan might not fit exactly what they're looking for right

1495
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: now once they get them all together. I think he's

1496
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: a hell of a player and I think he made

1497
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: a great passionate speech. If we were in a war room,

1498
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: I would say you did your job today. He really did. Yeah.

1499
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: I mean I think Jordan Morgan is in play in

1500
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: a trade back scenario, and that would be a Tyler

1501
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: Smith that tackle Morgan at guard, and then you still

1502
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: got to figure out center. But I mean, Nick, you

1503
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: were boots on the ground there at the combine. Did

1504
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: you get a vibe from Jordan Morgan a little twinkle

1505
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: in his eye when the Cowboys came up?

1506
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1507
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 5: I think it's like most teams, it's kind of tough

1508
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 5: to tell at the combine because they're doing thirty two

1509
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 5: job interviews and some guys can't even decipher one from

1510
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 5: the other. But I think with Jordan Morgan, not only

1511
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 5: did they do homework on him at the Combine, they

1512
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 5: did it at the Senior Bowl, so they understand this guy.

1513
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 5: They understand what he can bring to the table. I

1514
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 5: think it's uh. I think it's an expectation of you

1515
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 5: know what you're getting whenever he arrives in the building,

1516
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 5: And that is different than if you get an Amarusmims

1517
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 5: or if you get a Tyler Guidon. You don't quite

1518
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 5: know exactly what you're getting from those guys. But also

1519
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: at the same on the same token, you asked yourself, Okay,

1520
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 5: what does this player look like? In four years from

1521
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 5: now when I'm thinking about this fifth year option, is

1522
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 5: a Tyler Guiden or a Marius Smims going to develop

1523
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 5: at a trajectory that puts them way above Jordan Morgan

1524
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 5: by that time. You also have to be able to

1525
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 5: be comfortable not only your scouting but your development in

1526
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 5: that same sense.

1527
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 9: I also, and look, I think Jordan Morgan's a good player.

1528
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 9: I think that, you know, I think he can absolutely

1529
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 9: play tackle. But I think the idea of saying that

1530
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 9: if teams were to say he's primarily a guard, I

1531
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 9: don't think, especially in today's NFL, where so much of

1532
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 9: it is get the ball out quickly and a gap

1533
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 9: pressure is such a big deal. I don't know that

1534
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 9: talking about somebody's at their guard that that teams would

1535
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 9: think of that as limiting.

1536
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's a negative anything.

1537
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 9: I think that teams view that as that's a valuable

1538
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 9: part of the offensive line and it's part of an

1539
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 9: entire unit that they're trying to build. I also think

1540
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 9: that it's important to when we hear the discussions that

1541
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 9: the Cowboys have when it's like, hey, they talked to

1542
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 9: him here, they talk to him here, they talk to

1543
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 9: him here. Yes, a lot of times that can indicate

1544
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 9: they really like him. Also at other times it can

1545
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 9: indicate we have to figure him out because we're not

1546
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 9: comfortable with things. Sure, And so I think that whenever

1547
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 9: you see that, it can mean one or the other.

1548
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 9: It doesn't have to mean that they're not comfortable things.

1549
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 9: It doesn't have to mean that they're in love with them.

1550
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 9: But I think that when you see a lot of

1551
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 9: attention paid to a player a lot of different meetings,

1552
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 9: I think a lot of times they're saying to themselves,

1553
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 9: we need to get answers here that maybe we're not

1554
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 9: comfortable with yet.

1555
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 4: And I mean you can even look whenever we put

1556
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 4: together this Dallas Cowboys Draft guide, which is beautiful and

1557
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,479
Speaker 4: you should all get it, we tend to put guys

1558
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: on the front that we have a feeling that could

1559
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 4: be the pick or just has name value.

1560
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: He's on the front because he fits the mold.

1561
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 4: He's on the front of the magazine because he has

1562
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: an opportunity to go to the next level and have

1563
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 4: some success. And that was about a month and a

1564
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: half prior to where we sit now, a week ahead

1565
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: from the draft.

1566
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: So there's been thought about Jordan Morgan, and if.

1567
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 4: They do pass on him, to Bobby's point, it's because

1568
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 4: they have a reason, They have something that popped up

1569
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: through the process, or they just have another prospect that

1570
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 4: they had higher on their board and they didn't window

1571
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 4: dress it. He could fit you a need the same

1572
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 4: way that Graham Barton could, the same way that a J. C.

1573
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 4: Latham could or some of these other guys. It fills

1574
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 4: a need, but it depends on where the value is

1575
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 4: with the players around him and who's on the board

1576
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 4: at that time.

1577
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: No question, I usul, do you do you want to

1578
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: bounce for your guy Jordan Morgan? Or or do you

1579
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: kind of agree with where we're going?

1580
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: You guys, have you sailed it?

1581
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 7: He don't care about nothing you talking about.

1582
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 2: I love it.

1583
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 7: He's gonna feel a.

1584
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 6: Way that's good team trade back as well. I would

1585
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 6: assume Jordan, let's go.

1586
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: I know you do all right?

1587
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, all right, Ron, you need to keep

1588
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: this kosher, bro Honey to make sure no f bombs

1589
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: here their children at home.

1590
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, broad Us is probably worried about

1591
01:05:59,160 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 9: what's about to come out.

1592
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm out, we all are. But I have a filter.

1593
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: Everybody's got a notes app. This is impressive. Do you

1594
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: think this.

1595
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 9: Year's draft could be more about next year's draft after

1596
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 9: McCarthy and maybe Dak are both gone?

1597
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's real talk.

1598
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 16: What if Jerry goes with Dion and his son next year,

1599
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 16: or if you can draft up and take Pendix.

1600
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: Junior this year?

1601
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 13: What do you do?

1602
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 9: And remember if you're not hanging out with JORDI ran

1603
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 9: drinking Jim Bean on one A five three of the fan?

1604
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: Where are you at? S A guy?

1605
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 3: We love you, Ron, thank you so much. Yes, run

1606
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 3: of a plus a run he nails it every every

1607
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: Friday at five twenty?

1608
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: What' you're drinking?

1609
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: What you're thinking? Aisha? How do we feel about Ron's question?

1610
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean you immediately went and buried your head behind

1611
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: you and notebook.

1612
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 7: No, I don't have a I don't have a lot

1613
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 7: to say about.

1614
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: I will say, I'll say this, I'll say I'll speak up,

1615
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: I'll speak up here.

1616
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 16: Uh.

1617
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: This is a This is unusual in a lot of

1618
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: different ways for scouts and for coaches, because you do

1619
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: have coaches that are on one year deals, and you

1620
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: have a head coach that's on a one year deal

1621
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: or he's so. Now you're in a situation where, uh,

1622
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 2: you're you're wondering as a as a player personnel department,

1623
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: we just we got to put this board together for

1624
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: who we think the best players are. Whether you know,

1625
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: the coaches have input. I worked here for a long time.

1626
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: Coach has always had input here, always maybe at times

1627
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: too much. You know, I never called a third down defense,

1628
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: you know, but they would come into my area and

1629
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: tell me why this guy could play or this guy

1630
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: couldn't play. So I think they're in a very very

1631
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: unusual situation. I think will Jerry Steven have to manage

1632
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: this in a way that their board is put together

1633
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: the truest board that they could put together for how

1634
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: this team is going to be this season and the

1635
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: into the future. Yes, you could think about you know

1636
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: that you could ask the coaches, hey, what would you

1637
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: how would you like us to draft this board? You know,

1638
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 2: if you have a little bit of more stability to that,

1639
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: if you've had some continuity. They had a lot of

1640
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 2: continuity with Jason Garrett for ten years. Scouts knew exactly

1641
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: what they were doing when they were looking for players

1642
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: for that staff. So to me, it is a little

1643
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: bit of a tightrope that you walk, but you also

1644
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: have to say you know and I know again Mike Zimmer.

1645
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: My relationship with Mike Mike is a hey, I like

1646
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 2: this kind of a player, but bring me whoever you

1647
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: want to bring me. And I think that's the attitude

1648
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: that you have to have going into this as a

1649
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 2: personnel department. You got to put the board to put

1650
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 2: the board together the best you can and play it

1651
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: in a way that is best for today and then

1652
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: for tomorrow, regardless of who's coaching this football team.

1653
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: I think some thought to what you were asking there,

1654
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 3: Ron and Bobby, I wonder your thoughts on this with

1655
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 3: the fact that yes, it is kind of Hey, you

1656
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of future right now locked up

1657
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: with your staff. What do we talk about trading up

1658
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: or your players? We talk about moving picks for next year?

1659
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: Are you more open to do that because I might

1660
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: not be here next year? What do I care about

1661
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 3: those picks for?

1662
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, I mean I think that the front office

1663
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: ain't going anywhere, the front office, but the coach.

1664
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 3: But but Mike McCarthy might be like, hey, no, no,

1665
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: but I want this guy. No, No, don't sell me

1666
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 3: on next year's raft. You know, I don't know that

1667
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 3: I got a job.

1668
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: If I was Mike McCarthy, I would have been to

1669
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: Will mcclay's office every single day going what are we

1670
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: doing in free agency? Why can't we go get what

1671
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 2: are we doing? Explain to me what's going on here?

1672
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: You know, Mike McCarthy took the approach I believe of Okay,

1673
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: I trust you, guys, Mike McCarthy. You got to remember

1674
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: I came from the same program he did in Green Bay.

1675
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy did not He just by way of it,

1676
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 2: head coach coaches don't have it, didn't have a whole

1677
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: lot to say the player. The players were drafted by

1678
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: the front office. The coaches at a hell of a

1679
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: job at coaching. You know, there was some interaction stuff

1680
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: like that. Mike is getting the first opportunity. I mean,

1681
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: this is what it's fifth draft now, fourth draft that

1682
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: we've had here with him. This is the first rule

1683
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: opportunity he's ever had of going in and Jerry Jones,

1684
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: Stephen Jones looking at him and going what do you

1685
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: think here? And then he have an opinion Because in

1686
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: Green Bay Ted Thompson would draft the players, So you know,

1687
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: that's that's really different for him. But to me, I

1688
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: still think that they're going to have a say, but

1689
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: you have to be mindful of that, you know, you

1690
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 2: have to be mindful is this guy the best player

1691
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 2: for what we're trying to do right now? You know,

1692
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: And that's and that's how you have to approach it.

1693
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 8: I think the defensive coach might. I think Zimmer is

1694
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 8: gonna have some input, but maybe not as much as

1695
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 8: dan Quinn.

1696
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn had a ton of it, because lots of it.

1697
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 8: There were plenty of times we would just be like, oh,

1698
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 8: that's a dan Quinn guy. Sure, definitely a dan Quinn guy.

1699
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 8: David Eddie is too, So I wonder if that comes

1700
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 8: in play as well, with Mike McCarthy having a little

1701
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 8: bit more say with that gentleman out of the building

1702
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 8: now and over.

1703
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,799
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't I disagree.

1704
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 9: I think dan Quinn and Mike Zimmer and the way

1705
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 9: the Cowboys have generally built their personnel staff and the

1706
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 9: way that their personnel staff interacts with their coaching staff,

1707
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 9: and the way that they gather information and you know,

1708
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,480
Speaker 9: have open lines of communications.

1709
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 10: Say what do you like?

1710
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 9: You know, what are the kind of things that you

1711
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 9: look for in players. All Right, now we know what

1712
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 9: you like, we're gonna go find it for you. Now

1713
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 9: we're gonna make the evaluation. But you tell them what

1714
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 9: you like, I'm gonna go out there and find it.

1715
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 9: And in terms of looking ahead to next year, the

1716
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 9: Cowboys have had uncertainty with their coaching staff just about

1717
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 9: every single year. It's just with different reasons. You gotta remember,

1718
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 9: they've spent three straight drafts with Dan Quinn thinking this

1719
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 9: could be dan Quinn's last year here. This could be

1720
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 9: Dirty's last year here, this could be Joe Witt, Al Harris,

1721
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 9: whoever else like these could all be their last year here.

1722
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 9: And yet they still routinely go back and go, so, okay,

1723
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 9: dan Quinn, you might be gone next year, but you

1724
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 9: really like Eric Scott, and Eric Scott really fixed a

1725
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 9: lot of what you want.

1726
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 10: Let's go get him, you know.

1727
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 9: They they had a decent sense that they thought, you know,

1728
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 9: Rod Marrionelli twenty nineteen, this might be the end for you,

1729
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 9: and yet they still you like Tristan Hill, that's the type.

1730
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 10: Of player you like.

1731
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 9: So routinely they have shown a history of we are

1732
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 9: focused on what we know right now we cannot get.

1733
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 9: You know, it's control what you can control, which is

1734
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 9: a you know, mantra that's talked about in NFL rooms

1735
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 9: everywhere outside of Dallas, like Dallas and everywhere else talks

1736
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 9: about that. And what they can control is their lines

1737
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 9: of information, their lines of communication with their coaching staff,

1738
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 9: and that coaching staff they have now they can't project

1739
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 9: out and say, well, let me guess who is the

1740
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 9: next defensive coordinator and what they're gonna think or whatever else.

1741
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 9: And so I think Zimmer, even here, you know, just

1742
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 9: year one and everything else, I think one hundred percent

1743
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 9: equally will have the same voice that Quinn does.

1744
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 4: See, I'm right there with you because whenever you look

1745
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: at the way that this contract is one year deal left,

1746
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 4: it's easy to look at him and say, Mike McCarthy's

1747
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 4: going to be here down the road, or he's not

1748
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 4: going to be here down the road, depending on what

1749
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 4: happens in twenty twenty four. It's a year to year

1750
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 4: league anyways, that's the NFL. We've seen coaches fired after

1751
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 4: sixteen games. We've seen coaches fired after sixteen years. I mean,

1752
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 4: look at Bell Belichick. No longer the coach with the

1753
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 4: New England. That's because he couldn't draft at the end,

1754
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 4: which is fair, but that's part of it. He's one

1755
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 4: of the greatest coaches of all times. Tom Landry has

1756
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 4: had the same problem here. He's won six Super Bowls.

1757
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 4: It's a year to year league in the NFL. If

1758
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 4: you is a what have you done for me lately?

1759
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is if they go into it.

1760
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 4: I think the only time that this possibly plays a

1761
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 4: factor is if it's one player versus the other who's

1762
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 4: going to play more now as opposed to down the road.

1763
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: I think it might come into those conversations.

1764
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 4: But whatever it comes to the building the board and

1765
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 4: putting these names on top of another, I don't think

1766
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 4: a lot changes depending on the coaching stat.

1767
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, if they draft anything other than

1768
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 5: offensive line, and with that first pick they are drafting

1769
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 5: for the future, they are not drafting for this season.

1770
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: That's not happened Spicy form, Nick Harris.

1771
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 3: I'm with you, though, I mean, I like what you're

1772
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: saying there, Bobby, and I do think that that might

1773
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: be one of the things the Cowboys do best with

1774
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 3: Will McLay and his scouts going to position coaches, going

1775
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: to the coordinators and saying, hey, give me a description.

1776
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: What are you looking for? What do you like? And

1777
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: they come back and they're able to build their board

1778
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 2: that way. Just real quick. I'm sorry, I'll get Yeah,

1779
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: you brought up about Michael Pennix. Nobody benefited more from

1780
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,839
Speaker 2: a falling quarterback in the first round than Mike McCarthy

1781
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, nobody benefited more. Now I'm

1782
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: saying that Salmon Green, Hey, that's drafted quarterback. Teddy Thompson

1783
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: had no intention of taking a quarterback when he took

1784
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. He was taking a defensive lineman. And that

1785
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: just shows you Sometimes it's like, you know, you step

1786
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: up and you say, we can't pass on this guy.

1787
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things going on. There's a lot

1788
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: of balls in the air in this organization about your quarterback.

1789
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 3: If Michael Pennix Junior is there at twenty four of hands,

1790
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 3: who's considering drafting him?

1791
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 7: Can you hold him?

1792
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 5: You already took your quarterback in this draft with Trey Lance.

1793
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 5: Did you horth round pick? Cause Penix you have to be.

1794
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 6: Quarterback.

1795
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 3: He's got that special about him. Now, and I'm not

1796
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 3: saying that Dak Prescott. Maybe he is the quarterback of

1797
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 3: the future here and they're sold on him, and I

1798
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 3: all right, that's fine. So I don't think that they'd

1799
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 3: really consider that, because I do think that's how they feel.

1800
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: If they had not traded for Trey Lance. I would

1801
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: go with you on this one. I'm with you, and

1802
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: I like Trey. I mean, I'm longing to see what

1803
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: you have with they had they had a second round,

1804
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 2: a high second round grade on Trey Lance. That's on

1805
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: their board. There's probably twenty I have twenty two names.

1806
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: He may be his player twenty who's better for you?

1807
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: Between Penix or Lance? I had Lance higher. He had

1808
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: Lance higher. So you're absolutely not considering that. Then, well no,

1809
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm not. But I mean, like to me, but if

1810
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: you're looking at the situation and you're in your quarterback's

1811
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: not signed, I think you absolutely have to look at

1812
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: a court.

1813
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you've got to have that conversation. Yeah,

1814
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 4: I think guys, you guys want to know something. I'd

1815
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 4: literally just looked this up. I was curious.

1816
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: Trey Lance is one younger than Michael Pennock.

1817
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 7: You're going to jail Yeah, you have to tell was

1818
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 7: born older.

1819
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: Quarterback Trey Lance was born on May ninth, two thousand

1820
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 4: and Michael Pennox Junior was May eighth of two thousand and.

1821
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: Bobby, you don't have to raise your hand. I know

1822
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: how you feel about that.

1823
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 8: Uh.

1824
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 3: But that's a trade back scenario of Pennix is there?

1825
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 3: I think that might be a great scenario for the Cowboys.

1826
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a scenario at all. Sorry, No,

1827
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 3: to trade back for another team wanting to move up?

1828
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 3: Get a phone right?

1829
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1830
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: Oh I thought you said trade back to draft Michael.

1831
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 3: It's great if the Cowboys. Yeah, is on the board.

1832
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 3: Do you get a call from a team?

1833
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1834
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 9: And I would say, just to Brian's point talking about

1835
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 9: the the Aaron Rodgers fault, which Stint Rodgers went twenty four,

1836
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 9: didn't he Yeah, So, I mean it's the same spot

1837
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 9: the the the comp to that for me.

1838
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 10: Would be Drake May falls to twenty four.

1839
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 9: You're talking about a guy who, like Rogers Smith, they

1840
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 9: were like right there as number one pick. Pennix is

1841
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 9: already a guy who you're talking about might be in

1842
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 9: that range is where he's supposed to go.

1843
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 10: And you know, he's He's very impressive. I love him.

1844
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 10: He's my third rank quarterback.

1845
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 9: There's still the question that you have to ask about

1846
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 9: his medicals as well, because I mean, the guy has

1847
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,480
Speaker 9: has had a lot of knee issue.

1848
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: He has throughout his career. Yeah he has. What do

1849
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 2: we got next?

1850
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 3: Up?

1851
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 2: What's up? What's that?

1852
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 17: Jacob from Killer?

1853
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: What's up? Jacob? Okay? So Cooper the.

1854
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 17: Best Iowa prospect draft since Kaitlyn Clark, or like Newton,

1855
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 17: well done, thank you, thank you? Or Newton is on

1856
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 17: the board and that gets Washington to call, or Thomas

1857
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 17: is there the wide receiver that gets Carolina to call.

1858
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 17: I think that's a team that we haven't talked about

1859
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 17: yet to draft up.

1860
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. I don't.

1861
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 17: I wouldn't trust Deontay Johnson to leave my wide receiver

1862
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 17: room in Adam Thielen.

1863
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. So, uh they're there.

1864
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 17: Would you take the defensive tackle, take an offensive lineman,

1865
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 17: or would you try and trade back with one of

1866
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 17: those teams that's calling you?

1867
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 5: Depends on what offensive linemen are on the board. But

1868
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 5: let's assume Barton and Fatanu they're off the board. I'm

1869
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 5: engaging in that call for sure. I think, especially with

1870
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 5: the it's Caroline and Washington you did. I think, especially

1871
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 5: with the receiver conversation, there's a lot of receiver needy

1872
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 5: teams from about twenty.

1873
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 6: Eight to thirty eight, and you can get a team

1874
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 6: to overpay.

1875
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 5: I think you can get a team to overpay and

1876
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 5: jump up to twenty four to go ahead and grab

1877
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 5: a Brian Thomas junor or an Xavier Worthy or something

1878
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:26,919
Speaker 5: something to that sense.

1879
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 3: Any of those players that you would, uh. I mean,

1880
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 3: if Barton's not there, I'm certainly open to moving back.

1881
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: I like Newton. I don't think we've talked a lot

1882
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: about Newton.

1883
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 3: I think Newton you probably don't take considering to your

1884
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 3: point with Mazzi, but Aisha, I mean, tell us a

1885
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 3: little bit about Newton from Illinois.

1886
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1887
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 8: That's what I was about to say, though, is like

1888
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 8: the reason why he's not getting no love like that

1889
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 8: is because Byron Murphy has just taking all of it consistently.

1890
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 8: But if you look at just how disruptive he is

1891
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 8: off the line of scrimmage. I noticed him last year

1892
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 8: when we were looking at the draft. Who's the guy

1893
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 8: that got picked up from Illinois last year? Brown Yeah,

1894
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 8: it was actually quite a and I noticed him last

1895
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 8: year and he just flies off.

1896
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 7: He just flies up field, strong, heavy hands.

1897
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 8: The thing about it is, like we've talked about it

1898
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 8: on the show, is like, yeah, but he's a three

1899
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 8: tech technically, you know, or he's one of those guys

1900
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 8: and the nose tackle position is something that is I

1901
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 8: don't know, it's just hard to come across. So it's

1902
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 8: like I wouldn't take him just because he's a three tech,

1903
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 8: like we talked about. I have seen Byron Murphy do

1904
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 8: some one tech things. I haven't seen Newton have to

1905
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 8: do that as much, So that would make me a

1906
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 8: little bit more hesitant. But him as a pass rusher

1907
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 8: is he's he's going to cause some problems.

1908
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: This guy's a load to deal with.

1909
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a problem.

1910
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 2: He has a problem because you see him split double teams. Yeah,

1911
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, you see a guy play with power for

1912
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: his size, his movements. He's a little bit of a

1913
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 2: shorter guy, but he's explosive and they try and double

1914
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: team him. The next thing, you know, it's a tackle

1915
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: for the loss. He we we we really haven't given

1916
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: him the do that he deserves. There. I think there

1917
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 2: is some verse statility this guy, you know, because they,

1918
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: like I said, they trying to get him in the

1919
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: running game. He's able to beat blocks at the point

1920
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: of attack, when he's past Russ stuff, He's able to

1921
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: get up the field. He could be disruptive in the pocket.

1922
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, Johnny Newton, Illinois, That's that's a guy someone

1923
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about it on the one of

1924
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: the nights and when of the afternoons in the draft,

1925
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: and like he gets picked and we're gonna go, that's

1926
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: a Dan Webber takes and that's a good patch.

1927
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 7: Murphy are closer than what peeped up.

1928
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: I agree. I don't think some people might have Newton ahead.

1929
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, Yes, sir, Hello Sean former U

1930
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: and t Eagle. Oh there we go CA last year

1931
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 2: down to South Texas. This year, drove up from Portlanwaka

1932
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: to see you guys.

1933
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 6: Oh, let's so much Calhoun uh San Crab Oh okay, okay, yeah,

1934
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 6: there we go, there we go.

1935
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: What's okay?

1936
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 18: The first round tackle conversation all had earlier with a

1937
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 18: mimes gotten and a subemtia. What is a conversation in

1938
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 18: the room with these guys if they don't feel comfortable

1939
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 18: out of camp. If Mims are gotten can start week one.

1940
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 18: Uh at Sumatilla has guardflex being six or five as

1941
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 18: opposed to six to eight. For the two guys who

1942
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 18: may like some leverage on the inside, you could let

1943
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 18: the winner take all at left tackle and the other

1944
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 18: guy kicks into left guards.

1945
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 10: Bobby, Yeah, I mean I think that if.

1946
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 9: I think that if they were to take one of

1947
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 9: those guys, they're doing it with the idea that we're

1948
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 9: gonna be ready to go. We're gonna have these guys

1949
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 9: ready to roll with us at the start of the season.

1950
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 9: So I don't think necessarily they'd be picking based on, well,

1951
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 9: what if they're not ready, Like, I don't think it

1952
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 9: would be with that in mind. Uh And I though

1953
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 9: if they were to take mems Geiton Suamatia, if they

1954
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 9: were to take one of those guys, I think that

1955
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 9: if they didn't end up playing right away, it would

1956
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 9: be because they had already determined when they picked them

1957
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 9: what they were gonna do with their offensive line, and

1958
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 9: that they determined it would be Tyler Smith, TJ. Bass, Brock, Kauffman,

1959
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 9: and that that was the plan they were gonna have.

1960
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 9: You got I remember there was there was a lot

1961
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 9: of discussion in training camp before Tyron Smith got hurt.

1962
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 9: There's a lot of people wondering, Tyler Smith is still

1963
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 9: not getting first team reps as a rookie. He was

1964
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 9: not He wasn't getting the reps at guard. Yeah, Tyron

1965
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 9: Smith was getting attack. It was only after Tyron Smith

1966
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 9: got hurt that they went ahead and put Tyler Smith

1967
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 9: in there regularly. So they had drafted Tyler Smith seemingly

1968
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 9: comfortable with the idea that he may not even start

1969
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 9: this year. So I think that if they were to

1970
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 9: make that decision of you're not starting right away, I

1971
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 9: don't know that they necessarily think about it from the

1972
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 9: angle of well, what can we get out of him

1973
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 9: right now?

1974
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 10: What can we do right now?

1975
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 9: And so I think that either they're drafting somebody for

1976
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 9: what they can be in the future and looking ahead

1977
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 9: to their depth and potential holes into the future, or

1978
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 9: you know, they're drafting them with a specific idea of

1979
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 9: mind if you're playing right now and you're playing here

1980
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 9: and yeah, look suamatya, I mean they I think the

1981
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 9: fact that he's shown he.

1982
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 10: Can play left and right.

1983
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 9: Zach Martin talked about this with Tyler Smith that if

1984
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 9: you can flip sides, that's a much more differ transition

1985
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 9: then bumping inside because a lot of the footwork on

1986
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 9: the run blocking is exactly the same, So that doesn't

1987
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 9: really have anything that you got to change up, and

1988
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 9: so it kind of cuts in half what you have

1989
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 9: to learn. So I mean, if they believe that Suamatia

1990
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 9: could do that, then I think they would well.

1991
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 4: And it depends on what you have with Matt will

1992
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 4: Let's Go and Awesome Richards as well. These are two

1993
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 4: drafted players in the past that you have to see

1994
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 4: something out of if you want to see him at

1995
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 4: that point. Now, do you expect Awesome Richards and Matt

1996
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 4: will Let's Go to magically be healthy and magically be

1997
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 4: ready to start going into the year?

1998
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.

1999
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: And I think if you're drafting an offensive lineman in

2000
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 4: the first round, you expect him to be over those

2001
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 4: two guys.

2002
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: But who knows, if they.

2003
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 4: Come back and they're healthy and you're able to roll

2004
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 4: in the right direction, I think there's a way that

2005
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 4: you could see some back and forth.

2006
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 3: Initially, Yeah, I think in Brian, I know we've talked

2007
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: about this on the fan because early on I was

2008
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: arguing with Gavin about this where they that we were

2009
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: talking about, Okay, if Tyre and we're here right, well,

2010
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 3: Tyrone's not, he's a New York Jet. But when you're

2011
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 3: drafting in the first round, you're drafting a player that

2012
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 3: you hope is a five year member of your team

2013
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: and that you get a second contract on, you're not

2014
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 3: necessarily saying, yeah, I've got a massive need right here,

2015
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 3: so I need to pull the trigger on the X

2016
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: player because he fills a need and can plug and play. Now,

2017
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: you're drafting the best player that's gonna be the best

2018
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 3: fit for your team over the course of those five years,

2019
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 3: and I do think that Sue Mattia would probably be

2020
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 3: a great option because of the position flexibility. To that point,

2021
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: even if it got it's frustrating to the fan base.

2022
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 3: You want to see your first round pick play immediately.

2023
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 3: If he's not ready, they're not going to put him

2024
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 3: out there, and they've got some other options, but it

2025
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 3: doesn't change the fact that most likely that guy's playing

2026
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 3: and giving you snaps. Because we've seen how difficult it

2027
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,879
Speaker 3: is to make it seventeen games with a healthy offensive

2028
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: line throughout the entire season. You need that depth. So

2029
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 3: eventually that guy will be a starter, hopefully is day one.

2030
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 3: If he's not, he's going to give you playing time.

2031
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean that it's a bad for Trump pick.

2032
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, cheu media DOGA or a first round pick there

2033
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 6: I think.

2034
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 5: I think I think with with the first round pick,

2035
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 5: you have to have the expectation that he's coming in

2036
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 5: to give snaps. You have to have that expectation that

2037
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 5: there's there's nothing else about it.

2038
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 6: And then that's why.

2039
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: I can't stand you sometimes.

2040
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 5: That's why I have a little bit of pause when

2041
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 5: it comes to the Tyler guidance of the Amarus mems.

2042
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 5: But I will keep that to yourself next time.

2043
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 7: I just you're gonna blame me too, because I feel

2044
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 7: the same way.

2045
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 6: I don't think I'm going come on, come on, bandwagon,

2046
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 6: join the bandwagon.

2047
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 8: Got blame you think you have that luxury with where

2048
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 8: you are contractually with your quarterback and all this other

2049
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 8: stuff going on. And then also to you just this

2050
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 8: team's aerial attack was its strength last year and I

2051
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 8: just think that if you were talking about left tackle,

2052
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 8: I don't want to play around with that at all.

2053
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 7: And also too. I just think you need contributors right away.

2054
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 8: With how last year's draft went, I don't think I

2055
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 8: think you need to count on those first three guys

2056
01:25:58,920 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 8: giving you something.

2057
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,839
Speaker 2: Do you if they if they were to take Kingsley

2058
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: so much? Do you not think he plays, Oh, I'm

2059
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 2: gonna be happy time.

2060
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 7: I think he earns that.

2061
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,560
Speaker 2: But is it a disappointment if he's not ready to

2062
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: go day one? Yes?

2063
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 8: Yes, okay, especially hey listen, I would I don't know

2064
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 8: about other humans. I don't know about other teams, but

2065
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 8: this team has people outside. Like we talk about how

2066
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 8: much offensive line is just a continued developmental thing. They

2067
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 8: have a guy that comes around here often called Duke,

2068
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 8: and he gets a lot of these guys. He's a

2069
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 8: luxury go as opposed to some of these other offensive linemens,

2070
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 8: so he'll get the work he needs. I just you

2071
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 8: can't you need You need stability there right away to me,

2072
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 8: real quickly, just.

2073
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 2: To see how consistent.

2074
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 4: Would you categorize Mazzie Smith as a disappointment this past year.

2075
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 3: Because you didn't play right away? Correct, That's not the

2076
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 3: reason he's not a disappointment, but his play on the

2077
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 3: field was disappointing.

2078
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 4: But if you draft a guy in the first round,

2079
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,879
Speaker 4: you draft an offensive lineman, you expect him to play initially,

2080
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 4: and when he plays well and gives you taped thing

2081
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 4: what Mazzie showed me, it's not a disappointment because he

2082
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 4: didn't start Week one because you had a guy ready

2083
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 4: to rock in Jonathan Hankins.

2084
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 3: But were you not excited about the possibility of Mozzie Smith?

2085
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 3: Did you think Mazzie Smith was going to start? Because yeah,

2086
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 3: Jonathan Hankins, I agree with you.

2087
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 5: I agree with you there, but that's when you factor

2088
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 5: in that offensive tackle was so much more valuable than

2089
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 5: defensive tackle.

2090
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 6: Whereas he when he would needed to be called upon.

2091
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 5: Whenever Jonathan Hankins went down, he wasn't ready to fill

2092
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 5: that role, right and whereas.

2093
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 3: Now if this scenario happened, he wasn't ready to fill

2094
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: that role, then I'd be upset.

2095
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2096
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely, But I think the differences last year you weren't

2097
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 5: necessarily drafting for need. This time you are a lot

2098
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 5: more so. And I think whenever you're drafted for that

2099
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 5: need at there at twenty four, you got to get

2100
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 5: an offensive lineman that can come in.

2101
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 3: I know, we got to get to this question. I

2102
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 3: think they did draft Mazzie for need. I think we

2103
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 3: heard yeah.

2104
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 5: I mean that there was a need obviously, but it's

2105
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 5: not as big of a need as you're looking at

2106
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 5: right now at twenty four because you look, you look

2107
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 5: at all the free agents that have left this offseason.

2108
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Oh yes, last offseason, they have to nail the draft.

2109
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 5: We were talking about either defensive tackle or offensive line

2110
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 5: at twenty four right up until the end, whereas this

2111
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 5: time around, we've been talking about offensive line since the

2112
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 5: season ended against Green Bay's like, well, you gotta go

2113
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 5: get an offensive linean at twenty four and like the

2114
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 5: Audish and Tyrone Smith weren't even out the build yet.

2115
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 3: I hear what you say, if, but to me, it

2116
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what position you take. If it doesn't start

2117
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 3: day one, I don't think it's a It means it's

2118
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 3: a bust of a pick. I just want to be

2119
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 3: able to contribute at some point and eventually be a starter.

2120
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 4: We're not talking about a bust of a pick here, though,

2121
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 4: We're talking about a disappointment, disappointment regardless.

2122
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the difference.

2123
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 4: I haven't given up on Mazie either, but disappointing give

2124
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 4: day yes or year one yes?

2125
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 3: What?

2126
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it was usually didn't start week one

2127
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: for me? God, what I would say question Eric from

2128
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: Fort Worth.

2129
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 19: I know that over the cop overthcap dot Com has

2130
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 19: us for three fifth rounders a sixth rounder for next

2131
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 19: year for the comp picks.

2132
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,560
Speaker 2: One of those I know is Tyron Smith based on

2133
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: his playing incentives?

2134
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 19: Can that move from a fifth to a four to

2135
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 19: a third based on you know, if he's hitting those

2136
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 19: game incentives? And then with that, because we have four

2137
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 19: comp picks for twenty twenty five, do you'll see us

2138
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 19: maybe using potential picks twenty twenty five to hit positions

2139
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 19: of need middle rounds because we have so many holes.

2140
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 2: You can actually trade those two, which is cool. Yeah. Yeah,

2141
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 2: it opens up a lot of options for you. Yeah,

2142
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: it opens with a lot of options. The part about

2143
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 2: the guy at the playtime turns into where he's a

2144
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: starter and all that stuff like that? Does that I

2145
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 2: don't know how that works on that well.

2146
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 9: I mean a lot of it's hard to understand because

2147
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 9: it's a it's not a public FRA secret. It's it's

2148
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 9: not a public formula. I mean, there are parameters that

2149
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 9: are issued in the CBA that you can read, you

2150
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 9: can see generally how they factor it in, but they

2151
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 9: don't give you specific formula of how they come up

2152
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 9: with it. That's why teams sometimes maybe expecting, oh, we're

2153
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 9: going to get a fourth throw on comp for that guy,

2154
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 9: and then they find out it's a fifth and so

2155
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 9: it's not anything that they would that specifically wouldn't be

2156
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 9: like that sort of a specific isn't something that would

2157
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 9: be public. I remember reading though, right after that the

2158
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 9: assumption was based on history of the way you see

2159
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 9: another deals play out, that they don't hit the incent

2160
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 9: like it's it's got to be whatever the straight read

2161
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 9: of the contract is initially rather than potent sentence. But again,

2162
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 9: that's very murky and there's not a lot of great

2163
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 9: understanding on that.

2164
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 4: And they've done that before where they've moved picks. I mean,

2165
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 4: Eric Scott Junior is a great example from this past year.

2166
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 4: They knew they were going to get a fifth or

2167
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 4: a sixth compick at some point in this upcoming draft,

2168
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 4: so they moved to pick along to go and get

2169
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 4: a guy to go and get Eric Scott Junior. And

2170
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 4: that's possible. It goes back to the initial question that

2171
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 4: I think we had right at the beginning, where it's

2172
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 4: depending on the value. Next year's picks are not value

2173
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 4: very high on the trade chart per se. But if

2174
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 4: you can package a couple of them together, then maybe

2175
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 4: you're able to make some moves and go up and

2176
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 4: get somebody that you really think is not going to

2177
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 4: be there whenever your selection rules around.

2178
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 3: Awesome questions. I mean, we could talk draft all night long.

2179
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 3: This has been an absolute last year for Draft one

2180
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 3: oh one. Shout out to Miller White as well for

2181
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 3: sponsoring this. Appreciate everybody who's watched on the Twitch and

2182
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 3: the YouTube on a one oh five to three the fan,

2183
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 3: We love you. Thank you to everybody that came out here,

2184
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 3: whether you asked the questioning, Thank you you're all. Dallascoveries

2185
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 3: dot Com too big. Thank you to Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

2186
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 3: Shout out to Derek Eagleton of course, Gavin Spittle as well,

2187
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 3: and of course the Jones family letting us be in

2188
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 3: this beautiful facility.

2189
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: It's absolutely outstanding.

2190
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 3: Thank you to Aisha Morrison, Kyle Yeomans, Bobby Belts of course,

2191
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 3: Nick Harris, Bryan Brodess. I'm Zach Walchuk, Will be back

2192
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Monday with the next edition of the Draft Show. Will

2193
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 3: be with you all week next week leading into it.

2194
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 3: We look forward to spending all three days of the

2195
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 3: draft with you. Thank you so much, and hugs and

2196
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 3: hampounds everybody, We love you.

2197
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

2198
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.