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Speaker 1: Second date, up date. What's the optimal amount of time

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Speaker 1: If it's best case scenario, how long should that hangout?

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Speaker 2: Last?

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Speaker 1: Best case scenario means we never leave and we get married.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, three to four.

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Speaker 1: But experts say a coffee date could go forty to

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Speaker 1: sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like dinner dates could stretch up to

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Speaker 1: two hours if it's really going well.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Then with activity dates like naked frisbee golf, those can

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Speaker 1: last two and a half hours if the chafing doesn't

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Speaker 1: get in the way. Oh wow, so you probably want

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Speaker 1: to take a time out here and there, ask your

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Speaker 1: date to rub some gold bond medicated powder on your thighs.

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Speaker 2: During the great Yeah you playing frisbee golf.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing it right. But I want to know

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Speaker 1: what does it mean when a first date lasts four

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Speaker 2: Oh cute, it's cute.

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Speaker 1: Goes on for ten full hours.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're lost in the woods. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: go hiking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but we all agree this is something wrong. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's not normal. But one of our listeners

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Speaker 1: said that happened to him. Unless this is a typo

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Speaker 1: or something, Chad.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's one hour.

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Speaker 1: Is this a typo? It can't be ten hours.

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Speaker 3: No, this was a marathon day that started early in

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Speaker 3: the day. It literally kept going. Oh yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: even it wasn't even planned.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it wasn't planned to spend that long together.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no. We so we met on a dating

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Speaker 3: app and we were supposed to get some coffee and pastries.

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Speaker 2: And wait, wait, wait, what's her name?

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Speaker 3: Her name is Samantha.

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Speaker 2: Samantha Okay, yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: We kind of hit it off, definitely kind of liked

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Speaker 3: was playing on going to the gym. Yeah, it seemed

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's got all that cof the energy. Now

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Speaker 1: she's got to burn it off and do something else.

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Speaker 2: Did she suggest like activity or something, go to the

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Speaker 3: She wanted to go to the wine bar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds way more fun.

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Speaker 1: But wine in the morning, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I kind of liked her. It was

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Speaker 1: So you skip glue day? Jeff disappointed. I know, but

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Speaker 1: I mean you must have felt the connection too, if

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Speaker 2: He used those crazy strong words. I kind of liked her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well things are going pretty well. She kept asking

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Speaker 2: You're drinking four hours of wine.

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Speaker 3: Well, we got coffee first and then wine. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: The stomach some set. What's going through your mind at

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Speaker 1: It's like what's next?

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Speaker 2: But it's so fun to get kind of day drunk

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Speaker 2: well today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we actually we took some wine to go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put some public intoxication on this first date.

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Speaker 4: I thought to be lunchtime soon.

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Speaker 2: I know, I feel like they need to eat too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So we're up to like maybe five hours here, and

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Speaker 1: Okay, how are you are you seeing this as an

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Speaker 3: A little bit of column mail, little bit of column beat,

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Speaker 1: It's at the same time you were saying at hour

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like you just don't know how to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I did say at one point, hey, I've

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Speaker 2: Right, So you gave her an out, what I mean,

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Speaker 3: You no? And she goes, are you kidding? The day

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Speaker 3: To kiss her and she pulled away. I have no

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Speaker 1: How many signs can you get from one person that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been making out an hour too,

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Speaker 2: fixed out to say hot at.

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Speaker 4: The wine mark.

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Speaker 1: It's weird that she pulled away from the kiss though,

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Speaker 1: And then where did that happen?

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Speaker 3: She pulled away, and she hasn't returned my phone call then,

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Speaker 2: Any Maybe she was just more intoxicated than you thought.

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Speaker 2: She was actual, or she didn't pull away, she just

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Speaker 3: I mean, all could be true, but then that doesn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great, So would you be disappointed if after

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Speaker 2: She blocked out an hour two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be very upset.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, she's fighting was perfect until he tried

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Speaker 3: I kind of just was carpe DM season a day

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Speaker 1: He was just relieved that it was over. He can

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Speaker 1: We will call Samantha for you and hopefully get some

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Speaker 1: after this Hold on Second Date update. If you're just

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Speaker 1: joining us for the second date update. Our listener Chad

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Speaker 1: went on a first date that lasted longer than most

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Speaker 1: relationships ten full hours. Yeah, wasn't planned that way. It

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Speaker 1: ten hours later he's finally standing in front of her place,

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Speaker 1: going in for the kiss and she pulled away. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it was an awkward moment for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were both drinking the whole day, so

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Speaker 1: who knows what the moment was really like. But just

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Speaker 1: to be clear, Chad, you still want to try to

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Speaker 1: get another date with Samantha here? Or are you just doing

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Speaker 3: I want to know both. I want to know Lie

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Speaker 3: and I would love to go on another day with her.

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Speaker 3: We had a good time.

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting too because every new activity you guys

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Speaker 1: That's true. Maybe in her life, ten hours is a

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Speaker 2: She's like the opposite of life.

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Speaker 4: He does sound like the type that would have gone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that, but I don't know. Let's call her, we'll

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Speaker 1: see if she picks up. And I'm dying to know

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Speaker 2: This, because there's just remember when we get her on

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Speaker 2: the phone, we don't have ten hours to talk to her.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, we'll do it quick. Gosh, what if that's it?

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Speaker 1: She just doesn't stop talking.

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Speaker 1: We might need some help with it, but I'm calling

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Speaker 1: her right now. Here we go, Hello, Hi, is this Samantha?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Who's calling clea?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: This is a radio show calling you called Brook and

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning, not fuck.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's weird. Why are you calling me? Can

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on what happens over the next few minutes here,

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Speaker 1: because this is a segment we do call the second

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Speaker 1: Date update.

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Speaker 4: Oh I think I've heard this before.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's pretty popular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go viral and TikTok and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you're calling me, So who is the person

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Speaker 1: Well, jeff Yeah, I really appreciate you doing my job

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Speaker 1: because I'm not great at it. But there's a guy

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Speaker 1: you should definitely remember because you spent ten full hours

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Speaker 4: Incredible. Incredible.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you think he's incredible.

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Speaker 4: I think it's incredible. You're calling me about him.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so unbelievable. It sounds like you had a great

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how do you spend ten hours ongoing

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Speaker 1: with somebody if there's not some sort of vibe happening.

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Speaker 1: If there's no, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you. So he went out with my best girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait when after you went

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No, no, before months ago he went out with my

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, did you know this before you went on

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Speaker 1: Or you knew Chad before you went out with him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's weird. He didn't mention that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well he didn't know this, but he spent many,

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Speaker 2: Wait, oh boy, he took your best friend to spend

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Speaker 4: Yeah, introduced her, He spent all this time with her, basically,

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Speaker 4: never replied to her, never called her nothing. I know.

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Speaker 4: She didn't do anything wrong. She's adorable, she's sweep. She

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Speaker 2: What So this whole thing, your whole ten hour date

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we girls got to stick together. Yeah, so give

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Speaker 4: him the message. Now you know how it feels give

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know that that's the most mature way

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Speaker 1: This makes sense why she was the one that was

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Speaker 5: The date going on, ye, and why she wouldn't kiss him,

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Speaker 5: our gate Christ was I don't know if he told you,

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Speaker 5: like how much time we spent, how much money he

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Speaker 2: You realize it, like he would have never got the

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Speaker 4: And tell him, Okay, we knew, we knew me and

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Speaker 4: Karen knew.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it was just for you too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely had no idea about this whole thing going.

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Speaker 4: On, but yeah, I could. He should be humiliated.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't have to tell him that, because

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Speaker 4: Great, it's even better.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 3: You're enjoying that.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad about it now, I mean, chat, Are

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'm here.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say right now. That's

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Speaker 3: that's really what was going on the whole time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not interested in you.

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Speaker 3: Who wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, I heard everything

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Speaker 3: you said. But we spent ten hours you mean an hour,

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Speaker 3: eight hour, nine when we've had Sharon May coffee, all

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Speaker 3: types of we've had the most fun all day. You

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Speaker 4: Felt five hours with you and then you you go

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Speaker 1: It feels your friend, your friend Sarah what only went

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you doubled, okay, Tad and I have no regrets,

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Speaker 2: No, there wasn't even a moment in that ten hour

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Speaker 1: He might be a decent guy. A little bit.

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Speaker 4: I was enjoying myself so much. Oh god, I had.

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Speaker 4: I had a belly full of food, I had a

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Speaker 4: And to top it off, you know who else had

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Speaker 4: a great time? Sarah.

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Speaker 3: We laughed for hours.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, we're still laughing about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to tell you that Chad skipped

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Speaker 4: Order to he really needed that day. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh Chad, I mean, do you feel bad about

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Speaker 2: ghosting Sarah? I guess that's what she wanted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was just a tough time, you know,

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Speaker 1: I am curious, Chad, why did you introduce the other

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Speaker 3: I was honestly just dropping off medication. It was just

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Speaker 3: a quick errand it wasn't really like I was introducing

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Speaker 1: Why you monster?

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I know that your friend Sarah was

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Speaker 2: on this show, that ghosting just seems like the normal

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Speaker 2: way that people get out of things these days. I

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Speaker 4: Guys are just playing us all the time, and they're

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Speaker 4: playing games and they you know, we felt like, oh,

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Speaker 4: let's get this one back already about Sarah, and you

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Speaker 2: But I'm also interested. Yes, Chad just happened to be

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can kind of see what Samantha

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Speaker 1: game of would you like to go out with Chad

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Speaker 1: one more time?

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Speaker 4: I would rather I would rather split my eyelids with

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Speaker 1: That's so dark if Chad, are you into that or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Honestly, it just seems like she's so really angry

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Speaker 3: because of what happened with Sarah, And honestly, at this point,

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Speaker 3: I just it doesn't seem like it's going to work out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, man, Oh you think you think he didn't answer

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never know who you're ghosting too, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess yes, seriously, Chad. Now you know, if a girl

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Speaker 1: in the future ever says that she wants to hang

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Speaker 1: out with you more and really likes you, Red flag.

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Speaker 1: Someone's trying to get the we're on three of this date,

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Speaker 1: it must be.

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Speaker 4: And you know what else say you're going to call

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Speaker 4: the person. Don't say that you liked them and you

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Speaker 4: had a great time.

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Speaker 1: She's trying to drag us into our ten of this

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Speaker 1: long time. We appreciate your time, science, We'll let you go,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, all right, it's rookie Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: It used to be that dating apps were scary, like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, is this rando gonna like show up

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Speaker 1: and murder me or whatever? Totally, But nowadays it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, is this person gonna waste all my

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Speaker 1: money and time and a revenge a lot and then

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Speaker 1: ghost me afterwards and laugh about it with their friends

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Speaker 1: on the radio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe there's so few options on dating apps

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Speaker 2: that you run into the same people or people that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how awful. My friend's hitting me up, Like, dude,

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Speaker 1: your girlfriend is still on tender Yeah the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this whole thing just really is not a great advertisement

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Speaker 1: for all the matchmaking apps out there. But I guess

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Speaker 1: this is what's happening right now. And you can hear

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Speaker 1: more of our second date updates. You can find them

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