WEBVTT - Harmonizing Success: A Conversation with Goapele

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<v Speaker 1>But just had an aha moment of like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just put one foot in front of the other, the

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<v Speaker 1>path will appear as you make steps, and the sun's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rise and it's gonna set with or without you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that things come together.

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<v Speaker 2>Time to stay locked in to new episodes. Hey, Money Movers,

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<v Speaker 2>This week on Money Moves, we are joined by an

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<v Speaker 2>R and B and soul icon, whose voices grace our

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<v Speaker 2>hearts and playlists for years. She's not only a powerhouse

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<v Speaker 2>in the world at music, but also a savvy.

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<v Speaker 3>Financial thinker and entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>From captivating audiences with her soulful melodies to navigating the

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<v Speaker 2>ever changing landscape of the music industry, our guest today

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<v Speaker 2>has truly made money Moves of our own. Get ready

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<v Speaker 2>to be inspired as we delve into the financial journey

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<v Speaker 2>and wisdom of this remarkable artist.

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<v Speaker 3>Money Movers.

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<v Speaker 2>Please join us and welcoming the talented Goopola to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, I just I love this subject of conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and just the energy you're bringing with it. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not really something that we're raised to know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about. Our feel like is a sexy thing

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about and it's so important.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so important.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of look at it now as like lifting

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<v Speaker 2>up our skirts. I'm sure that's probably not a PC

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<v Speaker 2>term right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But just like I want to see what's how this car.

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<v Speaker 2>Was built, how we did this, and if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>share the ups and downs, the truisms, like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we don't really have the advancements, and especially in

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<v Speaker 2>our culture today where it's just like let me post

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of how fly, how easy, how great it is,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just not real life, you know, as we put

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<v Speaker 2>decades of work into your artistry, building businesses, being able

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<v Speaker 2>to like beed a family as musicians and entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially in the entertainment world period where so much is

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<v Speaker 1>placed on image and yes, you know, a beautiful desired life.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's easy to get convinced to live beyond your means,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then like Instagram life versus real life,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just you know, as getting grown, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>have a future in generational wealth and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like a whole nother mindset, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so funny. It's like the getting grown thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I, first of all, I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that we introduce you so that people really know

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<v Speaker 2>who we're speaking to. But I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 2>twenty plus years of listening to some of your songs.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like one Closer to Me was like a

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<v Speaker 2>tragic breakup song for me, and I now look at

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<v Speaker 2>it now and I was like, I don't actually know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the meeting has changed for me over time,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, as I've sort of like evolved in my

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<v Speaker 2>own personal evolution. But you know, it's so different when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at musicians and artists like what you were

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<v Speaker 2>doing twenty years ago, where how you look at life

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<v Speaker 2>now where you're like, I'm saving for a retirement or

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<v Speaker 2>what am I going to do when I'm eighty? How

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<v Speaker 2>do I all these thoughts together? So I'm gonna absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>money movers. We're gonna have a great conversation today. But

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<v Speaker 2>let me be quiet, and let's start at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>Go apla.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us introduce yourself to our audience for

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<v Speaker 2>those who may not know you, and tell us a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about your journey into the music industry and entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>I allow you to just put it on the table

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<v Speaker 2>for us, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So my name is Guappole, my real name, my artist's name,

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said, I've been doing this for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>plus years. Closer just hit the twentieth the anniversary, which

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<v Speaker 1>is its lowing my mind, and you know I could

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<v Speaker 1>I always wanted to have longevity and make some less music,

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<v Speaker 1>but you just never know what's gonna stick, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the music business can be such

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<v Speaker 1>a gamble. But I'm a singer songwriter, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's been a huge blessing that's sustained me in

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<v Speaker 1>my life because, aside from performing, which is a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of what I do as an artist, being a writer,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has given me some power and leverage and

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<v Speaker 1>royalties and things like that that's really helpful. And I

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<v Speaker 1>put out my music independently.

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<v Speaker 3>I have about I put it out independent from.

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<v Speaker 1>The beginning with sky Blaze, my family record label, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we kind of have partnered with different distribution companies

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, even Sony at one point and then

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<v Speaker 1>went back to being it. But I'm just thankful that

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<v Speaker 1>I've always felt like I could be empowered and do

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<v Speaker 1>things in a way that felt right for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and consist alignment with my vision. And here I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to put out my.

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<v Speaker 3>Fixed project called Colors.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I cannot, I have to dive right into this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're working on new music now. It's called Colors.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have a date release date? Are we just

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<v Speaker 2>waiting with bated breath?

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<v Speaker 3>I have just put.

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<v Speaker 1>Out the first single called Time Heels, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>like a really reflective song about you know, even in hardship,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I wrote it through the pandemic. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>of such uncertainty, but just had an AHA moment of like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just put one foot in front of the other,

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<v Speaker 1>the path will appear as you make steps, and the

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<v Speaker 1>sun's gonna rise and it's gonna set with or without you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that things come together. And then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>putting out another single that I'm really excited about called

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<v Speaker 1>Purple that's a little more in the sensual vibe and

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by Prince. And we can talk about Prints even

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<v Speaker 1>on a business level because it was a genius in

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<v Speaker 1>more than just music, you know. But the album's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out soon, but people are getting of new music.

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<v Speaker 3>At least. We love a teaser.

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<v Speaker 2>We love a teaser absolutely. I love this Things come together.

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<v Speaker 2>What a beautiful concept. I'm gonna I'm gonna I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>that down. I'm gonna just I love that. I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've had this long legacy and history. I'm want

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to the early days of Goappola. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us a little bit about how you grow up, how

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<v Speaker 2>you grew up, and how money and financial literacy factored

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<v Speaker 2>into that oftentimes. I find like in our community it

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<v Speaker 2>was very stark ends of the spectrum, you know, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>like we ever talked about it in our families, or

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<v Speaker 2>we did.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I come from a diverse background, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that in the most extreme ways. My father, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in South Africa, left the apartheid system, grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in the first generation of being displaced apartheid first started,

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<v Speaker 1>so that he has a financial impact, right and moving

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<v Speaker 1>to a different zone, and you know, segregation in schools

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<v Speaker 1>and jobs and all kinds of stuff, even though his

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<v Speaker 1>family believed in education and all of these things. And

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<v Speaker 1>he went on to he met my mom, who's Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>and first second generation immigrants, so they were both immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>and they met in Kenya of all places.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, moved to CA. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But my family, I'll just say, like race wise, class wise,

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<v Speaker 1>resource wise, was very diverse in a lot of different levels.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like I grew up with my immediate

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<v Speaker 1>family not having a lot of money. But we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about being broke and poor and stuff like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was more like we there just might be things we

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<v Speaker 1>can't buy, you know what I mean. And I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with the feeling of especially my mom instilling in

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<v Speaker 1>me like money shouldn't be barrier. You can do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want in your life. No, just like work hard,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your integrity, have your honesty. And you know, our

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<v Speaker 1>house was really small, but people would come over all

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<v Speaker 1>the time and it was always like, there's enough to share,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of how much there is. And so I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like in that mindset, you know, it was like humbling sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it felt like there are resources and we knew,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. On the other side, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my grandfathers was an investment banker but brought

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<v Speaker 1>art into the banks as a way of investing into art,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Andy Warhol and Bosquiot and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these people. And I would move around the world with

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<v Speaker 1>him sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I would say I grew up with a

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<v Speaker 1>very wide perspective, even though my immediate family it was

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<v Speaker 1>like financially humbling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that is probably one of the best explanations

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of that, you know, we might not have

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot, but it's about the mindset.

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<v Speaker 3>So there wasn't a scarcity mindset. It was we had

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<v Speaker 3>this home.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been humble, but it was always open

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<v Speaker 2>to other people and there was enough to go around.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because I was back home with my

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<v Speaker 2>aunts and uncles the other day and they were telling

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<v Speaker 2>stories about how back in the day they would have

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<v Speaker 2>a party and they'd be like, we would have our

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<v Speaker 2>rotisserie chicken and I love now and they'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was our that was our dinner for like two

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<v Speaker 2>couples or something, you know, and it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, now, it's you make it work. They made it work.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like early day, same thing, first Generationian immigrants

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<v Speaker 2>from England and Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, I mean, if you have people over for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner and you're not serving.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, philet mignon.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty lobsters, like, it's you know, and so I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The right house to have it or the right like

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'll tell you it was not photographical moments back then,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of amazing memories, a lot of community building,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, there were artists that were

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<v Speaker 1>coming from South Africa that were up and coming artists,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like successful artists like Lettumboulu who who was

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<v Speaker 1>like an aunt to me. But I got to see

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<v Speaker 1>how you can live as an artist, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and you know Hima Sekela and Mary and Makamba

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<v Speaker 1>and these different folks and then like students and intellectual

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<v Speaker 1>So there was just a way of like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>common meeting ground even though people have all these different lifestyles.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also just took all the smoke and mirrors away.

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