Speaker 1: But just had an aha moment of like, if you
Speaker 1: just put one foot in front of the other, the
Speaker 1: path will appear as you make steps, and the sun's
Speaker 1: gonna rise and it's gonna set with or without you,
Speaker 1: and you know that things come together.
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Speaker 2: R and B and soul icon, whose voices grace our
Speaker 2: hearts and playlists for years. She's not only a powerhouse
Speaker 2: in the world at music, but also a savvy.
Speaker 3: Financial thinker and entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: From captivating audiences with her soulful melodies to navigating the
Speaker 2: ever changing landscape of the music industry, our guest today
Speaker 2: has truly made money Moves of our own. Get ready
Speaker 2: to be inspired as we delve into the financial journey
Speaker 2: and wisdom of this remarkable artist.
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Speaker 2: Please join us and welcoming the talented Goopola to the show.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, I just I love this subject of conversation
Speaker 1: and just the energy you're bringing with it. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's not really something that we're raised to know
Speaker 1: a lot about. Our feel like is a sexy thing
Speaker 1: to talk about and it's so important.
Speaker 3: It's so important.
Speaker 2: I kind of look at it now as like lifting
Speaker 2: up our skirts. I'm sure that's probably not a PC
Speaker 2: term right now.
Speaker 3: But just like I want to see what's how this car.
Speaker 2: Was built, how we did this, and if we don't
Speaker 2: share the ups and downs, the truisms, like I feel
Speaker 2: like we don't really have the advancements, and especially in
Speaker 2: our culture today where it's just like let me post
Speaker 2: a picture of how fly, how easy, how great it is,
Speaker 2: that's just not real life, you know, as we put
Speaker 2: decades of work into your artistry, building businesses, being able
Speaker 2: to like beed a family as musicians and entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1: Especially in the entertainment world period where so much is
Speaker 1: placed on image and yes, you know, a beautiful desired life.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's easy to get convinced to live beyond your means,
Speaker 1: you know, and then like Instagram life versus real life,
Speaker 1: and then just you know, as getting grown, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: have a future in generational wealth and all that.
Speaker 3: That's like a whole nother mindset, and you know, it's
Speaker 3: so funny. It's like the getting grown thing.
Speaker 2: You know. I, first of all, I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that we introduce you so that people really know
Speaker 2: who we're speaking to. But I feel like I have
Speaker 2: twenty plus years of listening to some of your songs.
Speaker 2: I feel like one Closer to Me was like a
Speaker 2: tragic breakup song for me, and I now look at
Speaker 2: it now and I was like, I don't actually know.
Speaker 2: I feel like the meeting has changed for me over time,
Speaker 2: for sure, as I've sort of like evolved in my
Speaker 2: own personal evolution. But you know, it's so different when
Speaker 2: you look at musicians and artists like what you were
Speaker 2: doing twenty years ago, where how you look at life
Speaker 2: now where you're like, I'm saving for a retirement or
Speaker 2: what am I going to do when I'm eighty? How
Speaker 2: do I all these thoughts together? So I'm gonna absolutely
Speaker 2: money movers. We're gonna have a great conversation today. But
Speaker 2: let me be quiet, and let's start at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Go apla.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us introduce yourself to our audience for
Speaker 2: those who may not know you, and tell us a
Speaker 2: little bit about your journey into the music industry and entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: I allow you to just put it on the table
Speaker 2: for us, all right.
Speaker 1: So my name is Guappole, my real name, my artist's name,
Speaker 1: And like you said, I've been doing this for twenty
Speaker 1: plus years. Closer just hit the twentieth the anniversary, which
Speaker 1: is its lowing my mind, and you know I could
Speaker 1: I always wanted to have longevity and make some less music,
Speaker 1: but you just never know what's gonna stick, you know,
Speaker 1: And I feel like the music business can be such
Speaker 1: a gamble. But I'm a singer songwriter, and I feel
Speaker 1: like that's been a huge blessing that's sustained me in
Speaker 1: my life because, aside from performing, which is a big
Speaker 1: part of what I do as an artist, being a writer,
Speaker 1: you know, has given me some power and leverage and
Speaker 1: royalties and things like that that's really helpful. And I
Speaker 1: put out my music independently.
Speaker 3: I have about I put it out independent from.
Speaker 1: The beginning with sky Blaze, my family record label, and
Speaker 1: then we kind of have partnered with different distribution companies
Speaker 1: along the way, even Sony at one point and then
Speaker 1: went back to being it. But I'm just thankful that
Speaker 1: I've always felt like I could be empowered and do
Speaker 1: things in a way that felt right for me, you know,
Speaker 1: and consist alignment with my vision. And here I'm about
Speaker 1: to put out my.
Speaker 3: Fixed project called Colors.
Speaker 2: Oh I cannot, I have to dive right into this. Okay,
Speaker 2: So you're working on new music now. It's called Colors.
Speaker 2: Do we have a date release date? Are we just
Speaker 2: waiting with bated breath?
Speaker 3: I have just put.
Speaker 1: Out the first single called Time Heels, which is just
Speaker 1: like a really reflective song about you know, even in hardship,
Speaker 1: and you know, I wrote it through the pandemic. I'm
Speaker 1: of such uncertainty, but just had an AHA moment of like,
Speaker 1: if you just put one foot in front of the other,
Speaker 1: the path will appear as you make steps, and the
Speaker 1: sun's gonna rise and it's gonna set with or without you,
Speaker 1: and you know that things come together. And then I'm
Speaker 1: putting out another single that I'm really excited about called
Speaker 1: Purple that's a little more in the sensual vibe and
Speaker 1: inspired by Prince. And we can talk about Prints even
Speaker 1: on a business level because it was a genius in
Speaker 1: more than just music, you know. But the album's coming
Speaker 1: out soon, but people are getting of new music.
Speaker 3: At least. We love a teaser.
Speaker 2: We love a teaser absolutely. I love this Things come together.
Speaker 2: What a beautiful concept. I'm gonna I'm gonna I wrote
Speaker 2: that down. I'm gonna just I love that. I really do.
Speaker 2: So you've had this long legacy and history. I'm want
Speaker 2: to go back to the early days of Goappola. Tell
Speaker 2: us a little bit about how you grow up, how
Speaker 2: you grew up, and how money and financial literacy factored
Speaker 2: into that oftentimes. I find like in our community it
Speaker 2: was very stark ends of the spectrum, you know, whereas
Speaker 2: like we ever talked about it in our families, or
Speaker 2: we did.
Speaker 3: Talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I come from a diverse background, and I mean
Speaker 1: that in the most extreme ways. My father, you know,
Speaker 1: grew up in South Africa, left the apartheid system, grew
Speaker 1: up in the first generation of being displaced apartheid first started,
Speaker 1: so that he has a financial impact, right and moving
Speaker 1: to a different zone, and you know, segregation in schools
Speaker 1: and jobs and all kinds of stuff, even though his
Speaker 1: family believed in education and all of these things. And
Speaker 1: he went on to he met my mom, who's Jewish
Speaker 1: and first second generation immigrants, so they were both immigrants,
Speaker 1: and they met in Kenya of all places.
Speaker 3: Wow, moved to CA. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But my family, I'll just say, like race wise, class wise,
Speaker 1: resource wise, was very diverse in a lot of different levels.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I grew up with my immediate
Speaker 1: family not having a lot of money. But we talk
Speaker 1: about being broke and poor and stuff like that. It
Speaker 1: was more like we there just might be things we
Speaker 1: can't buy, you know what I mean. And I grew
Speaker 1: up with the feeling of especially my mom instilling in
Speaker 1: me like money shouldn't be barrier. You can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want in your life. No, just like work hard,
Speaker 1: keep your integrity, have your honesty. And you know, our
Speaker 1: house was really small, but people would come over all
Speaker 1: the time and it was always like, there's enough to share,
Speaker 1: regardless of how much there is. And so I feel
Speaker 1: like in that mindset, you know, it was like humbling sometimes,
Speaker 1: but it felt like there are resources and we knew,
Speaker 1: you know. On the other side, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: one of my grandfathers was an investment banker but brought
Speaker 1: art into the banks as a way of investing into art,
Speaker 1: you know, like Andy Warhol and Bosquiot and all of
Speaker 1: these people. And I would move around the world with
Speaker 1: him sometimes.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: For me, I would say I grew up with a
Speaker 1: very wide perspective, even though my immediate family it was
Speaker 1: like financially humbling.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: You know, that is probably one of the best explanations
Speaker 2: I've heard of that, you know, we might not have
Speaker 2: had a lot, but it's about the mindset.
Speaker 3: So there wasn't a scarcity mindset. It was we had
Speaker 3: this home.
Speaker 2: It might have been humble, but it was always open
Speaker 2: to other people and there was enough to go around.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I was back home with my
Speaker 2: aunts and uncles the other day and they were telling
Speaker 2: stories about how back in the day they would have
Speaker 2: a party and they'd be like, we would have our
Speaker 2: rotisserie chicken and I love now and they'd be like,
Speaker 2: that was our that was our dinner for like two
Speaker 2: couples or something, you know, and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, now, it's you make it work. They made it work.
Speaker 2: They were like early day, same thing, first Generationian immigrants
Speaker 2: from England and Africa.
Speaker 3: But that's what they did.
Speaker 2: And now, I mean, if you have people over for
Speaker 2: dinner and you're not serving.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, philet mignon.
Speaker 2: Twenty lobsters, like, it's you know, and so I appreciate
Speaker 2: it isn't.
Speaker 1: The right house to have it or the right like
Speaker 1: it's I'll tell you it was not photographical moments back then,
Speaker 1: but a lot of amazing memories, a lot of community building,
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, there were artists that were
Speaker 1: coming from South Africa that were up and coming artists,
Speaker 1: and then like successful artists like Lettumboulu who who was
Speaker 1: like an aunt to me. But I got to see
Speaker 1: how you can live as an artist, you know, and
Speaker 1: then and you know Hima Sekela and Mary and Makamba
Speaker 1: and these different folks and then like students and intellectual
Speaker 1: So there was just a way of like there's a
Speaker 1: common meeting ground even though people have all these different lifestyles.
Speaker 1: And it also just took all the smoke and mirrors away.
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