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Speaker 2: Let's go, Let's go Giants, get out on the Giants bubbling,

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: Let's roll. Welcome to another tim the Giants Little Podcast,

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Speaker 3: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 3: We are in the Giants Podcast Studio, presented by Hacking

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Speaker 3: Sack of Brining Health, keep getting better, and we are

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Speaker 3: thrilled to welcome in, which has become a yearly tradition

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Speaker 3: for us. When Albert Breer is on his training camp

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Speaker 3: tour he visits the Giants, he always comes on and

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Speaker 3: then jumps on our platform. Albert, how are you man?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. I'm a little tired. But we're

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Speaker 2: almost done here. So this is actually my last stop.

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Speaker 4: It's twenty six in the book, so twenty six to

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Speaker 4: thirty two.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not bad, not bad. Twenty five is usually my target.

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Speaker 2: So I just got one over it this.

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Speaker 3: Time and we got to twenty six. That's great. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate you doing this the worst. If you want to

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Speaker 3: keep track of what's going on in camp, I love

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Speaker 3: your little like four or five, Yeah, like little notebooks,

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Speaker 3: which is great. You can find that on Monday Morning

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Speaker 3: Quarterback of course on Sports Illustrated and the course also

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Speaker 3: the host of the MMQB podcast as well. So what's

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Speaker 3: your kind of feel as you're about the part giants

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I I think that there's a good

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Speaker 2: you're at.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, you're a team at August. You better

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Speaker 3: feel positive now because.

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Speaker 2: But I mean you can still you can still like

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Speaker 2: some of the cues to look for.

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Speaker 4: And I you know, I think one thing that.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, you you do here here is that

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Speaker 2: I think like so much of it's going to come

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Speaker 2: down to what they're doing with the lines of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: And but they feel really optimistic about where they are

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Speaker 2: with both with both with both groups now obviously I

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Speaker 2: with the three rushers they have obviously and Burns and

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Speaker 3: I will say this. I do feel like if you

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Speaker 3: Andrew Thomas and happened, that you can get a better

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, like, you know, one thing that

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Speaker 2: and I think that that that can be an underrated thing.

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Speaker 3: Out of camp, for sure, And I think especially with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's leaning in to what he does well,

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Speaker 2: You know, using him as a runner a little bit

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Speaker 4: You know, like there are gonna be the.

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Speaker 2: Circumstances like you said, where you're you've got him taking

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think there's also going to be

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Speaker 4: He does well.

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Speaker 2: And he had a good year last year in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: Get that, by the way, helps you rookie quarterback too,

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Speaker 3: I think the interesting to me, interesting thing to me

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Speaker 3: and that was the expression that he used, and just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say, like a lot of it is just

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Speaker 2: that part is setting a bar for work ethic expectation.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna have some stuff that I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: a little bit. But you know, he it's it's it's

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Speaker 4: It's taking care of your body.

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Speaker 2: It's all of those little things that you know, I

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Speaker 2: know the giants feel like have rubbed off on some

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Speaker 2: I do that. But I do think, you know, like

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Speaker 3: And I think one of the guys you mentioned the

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Speaker 3: sure if Russ has ever had He's had some great

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely a different player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he had George Pickens, who's ultra

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Speaker 2: So he's had good players around him. He's had talented

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Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of it's gonna come down

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Speaker 2: again to like what happens with the other ten guys

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Speaker 2: But I like, I think all the talents there, and

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Speaker 3: slash Giants. Let's go to the defense average. You mentioned

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Speaker 3: building from the trenches out and you're right. There's a

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Speaker 3: think Abdul Carter is going to get utilized as kind

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Speaker 3: the linebacker. What kind of field have you gone for?

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Speaker 3: How they're going to utilize him.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing you can't do with him, I think within reason.

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Speaker 2: You I mean, this is a guy who was an

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Speaker 2: And it's I mean, it makes the comparisons to Micah

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Speaker 2: where Michael couldtaggle between being off the line and being

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Speaker 2: you can do with him. You can move them around,

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Speaker 2: the flexibility to do those sorts of things. You know,

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Speaker 2: Burns can play off the line as well. Sure, Thibodeau

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Speaker 2: I think you know, you can put him in some

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Speaker 2: in Detroit, you don't know where those two guys are

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Speaker 2: similar where when the Giants break the defensive huddle, huddle,

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Speaker 2: they got to figure out where those guys are and

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Speaker 2: don't forget Dexter Lawrence as part of that equation either,

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Speaker 2: and you know they're going to be able to, I think,

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Speaker 4: What they have in their defensive front.

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Speaker 3: And I think you know you you mentioned to me

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Speaker 3: because you have to get four hands on him. You

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Speaker 3: to limit I think what offenses can do to account

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Speaker 2: Right, And it's where's this guy coming from? Where's that

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Speaker 2: And I do think, uh, you know, there are shades

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Speaker 2: much improved secondary with you Paulton a Deebo and Javon

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think you took the words out

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Speaker 3: But I think it's gonna give Shane Bowen a chance

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Speaker 3: Giants should have the personnel on the back end to

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Speaker 4: You know, so I think I think seeing seeing that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one hundred percent is going to give

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Speaker 2: give them all, give them a lot of give them

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Speaker 3: How many times did people mention stopping the run to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously that's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: And like so, like all the stuff we're talking about

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Speaker 2: stuff's not on void if the offense isn't second and five,

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Speaker 2: if the offense is in third and one, bingo, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like so it's fun to talk about all of that stuff,

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go around the league a little bit.

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Speaker 3: As you just mentioned, you visited twenty six camps over

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Speaker 3: the course of the last month. What's a team that

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Speaker 3: all right, these guys are pretty confident about what they

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Speaker 4: I mean, Denver, everybody's already beating them into the ground.

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Speaker 2: Just as far as like this quote unquote sneaky team

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Speaker 2: there's some similarity to hear and then if they can

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Speaker 4: He had to know that we're still fighting through it.

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Speaker 2: Ursery like the tackle from Minnesota, it looks like he's

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Speaker 2: Whereas Trent Brown's health, where's Cam Robinson's health? Like there's

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Speaker 4: But like I think everything else is sort of in order.

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Speaker 2: There they have, you know, I mean Nico Collins, the

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Speaker 4: So there's that group. Yeah, And then I say, the

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Speaker 2: Pluck teams that quote unquote no one is talking about.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure the Rams have gotten enough at tension.

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Speaker 2: You know, on the offensive side of the ball, Cooper

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Speaker 4: But they're actually a young team especially crazy to think about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they've got all the guys on their front,

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Speaker 2: Their offensive line has gotten better over the course the

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Speaker 2: just as far as keeping him healthy, and that was

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Speaker 2: a hard time not seeing where that team that was,

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Speaker 3: And looking I think it's a lot easier to break

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Speaker 3: And I even mentioned Joe Burrow. You mentioned the Broncos

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Speaker 2: After Philadelphia, Yeah, I mean Philly, then you got I

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Speaker 4: Bay, Minnesota. Minnesota's loaded. If JJ can play.

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Speaker 2: YEP at a top twelve to fourteen level like now,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Tampa's won their division four years in a row.

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Speaker 2: The Rams are there, like the Niners, as young as

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Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

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Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man. But if you're

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Speaker 1: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk

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Speaker 1: to citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to learn about amuliar team. Yes, I knew I

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Speaker 3: What's the formula for a team to keep the No

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Speaker 3: consecutive year since two thousand and four and knocked the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I like Washington will be interesting because

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Speaker 2: I think Washington feels like they're a lot better.

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Speaker 4: A lot of things broke their way last year though.

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Speaker 2: And so close games for that, I mean, do you

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Speaker 4: To keep going and keep ascending. The offensive line should

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: They bring in Tunsel and Connory from Oregon, who they

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Speaker 4: Now, Like my one question where they're going.

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Speaker 2: To generate the pass rush, So I'm not one like

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Speaker 2: is that going to be Is dan quinn going to

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Speaker 2: be able to find ways to generate a pass rush

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Speaker 2: based on the strength of their secondary, They're going.

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Speaker 4: To get creative and doing that.

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Speaker 2: You know with guys you know like Daron pay they're

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Speaker 2: very high and Javon kim Law comes over from the

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Speaker 2: Jets and was with San Francisco, but they're probably the team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the other three in

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Speaker 2: the division, probably the team's got.

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Speaker 4: The best shot to knock the Eagles off.

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Speaker 2: And the Eagles, by the way, for whatever it's worth,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this. It didn't hit me until I

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Speaker 2: was there. But they're turning over like almost half their

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Speaker 2: starting lineup on defense, which a lot of people miss

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Speaker 2: that and think they're just running it back this year.

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Speaker 2: But there are a lot of new faces there, so

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Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see what happens.

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Speaker 3: And David they talking about turning over a defense and

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Speaker 3: turning into a young defense. They have a very young

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Speaker 3: defense now. They did Cooper dejene Quinea and Mitchell and

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Speaker 3: Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. No one's smith. They're all

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Speaker 3: young man.

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Speaker 2: That's a good thing, you know. But they are replacing

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Speaker 2: some guys and they you know, Josh Sweat's gone.

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Speaker 4: Brandon Graham's got, Milton Williams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Milton Williams is gone, and the secondary Darius Slay's gone,

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Speaker 2: Johncey Gardner Johnson's gone. So there's a good amount of

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Speaker 2: players that played important roles for them last year that

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Speaker 2: they aren't there anymore. Again, it'st the Eagles, so I

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Speaker 2: think they'll figure it out. But that's not nothing.

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Speaker 3: Final question, as you go around the league trends on

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Speaker 3: in ways the league is turning on both sides of

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Speaker 3: the ball. What are some of the common threads that

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Speaker 3: you've heard from DC's OC's players around the league for

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Speaker 3: maybe what fans can anticipate seeing on the field this

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Speaker 3: year that might be a little different in terms of trends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, like with on offense, it's

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Speaker 2: probably the positionless thing that I was talking about that like,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you use the word joker, like, I

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Speaker 2: think the idea of you know RJ. Harvey and Denver

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Speaker 2: Evan Ingram and Denver Traveon Henderson in New England. You know,

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Speaker 2: some of these guys that can be Jackson all trades

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Speaker 2: within offenses Tyler Warren and Indianapolis is gonna be really

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Speaker 2: really interesting. I think they're gonna snap the ball to

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Speaker 2: him some. So the idea of like positionless football and

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Speaker 2: moving guys around on offense, like, I think that's continuing

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Speaker 2: to grow. I mean defensively, it's just I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the good teams, a lot of the

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Speaker 2: a lot of the best teams are really investing in

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Speaker 2: the secondary, which I think is interesting. Like Baltimore is

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Speaker 2: the one that sticks out in my head thinking about

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Speaker 2: because of what they've got. They got five first round

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Speaker 2: picks starting the secondary for them, Kyle Hamilton and Malchi

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Speaker 2: starts at safety, and then Marlon Humphrey, Nate Wiggins, and

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Speaker 2: Jye Alexander at corner. But you look at the investment

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Speaker 2: with a lot of the contenders, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs have been really good over the last few

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Speaker 2: years in the secondary, and now they're replacing Justin Reed.

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Speaker 2: But they're gonna pay Trent McDuffie. Whether it's this year

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Speaker 2: next year, I'd say probably next year.

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Speaker 4: You know. I like the the you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Buffalo is like now they paid Christian Benford and

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Speaker 2: they've continued to use draft picks in the secondary. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Eagles obviously, like the two young guys had such

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Speaker 2: a huge impact there. You mentioned Mitchell and Gene.

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Speaker 4: I'd say.

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Speaker 2: An interesting trend would be like to have a lot

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Speaker 2: of the best teams are really investing in their secondaries,

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Speaker 2: which I mean, I think that there's there's something there

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Speaker 2: just in it's not just having top shelf players. It's

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Speaker 2: like the depth across the board, even like Denver, like

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Speaker 2: they have two really solid I mean, the best corner

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Speaker 2: in football in Patrick's Houtam, but then opposite him they've

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Speaker 2: got Riley Moss who they feel great about, and yet

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Speaker 2: they're still taking Jedai Barren from Texas in the first round.

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Speaker 4: There are lots of examples of that.

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Speaker 4: So I have a. We have a, we have a

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Speaker 4: we have a lot going on in the fall for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well I'm sure maybe you will be breaking news on

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