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Speaker 1: Sure, it's time. Hello, welcome you. No, not even nice show.

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Speaker 2: Your host Rob Shooter. And it's Friday, normally every Friday.

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Speaker 2: Our dear friend Cory Andrew joins us. He's after day.

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Speaker 2: So it's just us naughties. But don't we've got so

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Speaker 2: much gossip to get to. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 2: It is tea time. Big story at the top of

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Speaker 2: the show, Taylor Swift's alleged stalker was arrested again after

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Speaker 2: being seen dumpster diving outside her New York City apartment.

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Speaker 2: Get this, just minutes after being released without bail. So

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Speaker 2: the Seattle man we're not going to name him, has

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Speaker 2: now been arrested three times for stalking Taylor Swift, and

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Speaker 2: he's found himself back in cuffs again after he rea

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Speaker 2: turned to her apartment just moments after a Manhattan judge

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Speaker 2: cut him loose on supervised release. This is not good,

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Speaker 2: So a New York City police officer rearrested the gentleman

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Speaker 2: after he was lurking lurking outside Taylor's apartment, rummaging through

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Speaker 2: a dumpster across the street from where she lives. He

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Speaker 2: was peering into the dumpster after prosecutors revealed that he

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Speaker 2: has stalked her get this, thirty times three zero thirty

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Speaker 2: times in the last two months. Insiders witnesses say they

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Speaker 2: saw him digging through the dumpster taking out some blankets

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Speaker 2: and then he went and sat on the ground just

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Speaker 2: a few feet away from her front door. Neighbors said

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Speaker 2: that they had also seen him over the weekend and

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Speaker 2: at first he was detained on Saturday night for lurking

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Speaker 2: and he was released with that change. When he was released,

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Speaker 2: where did he go? Right back to Taylor's apartment. He

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Speaker 2: was arrested again on Monday nine outside her apartment. This

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Speaker 2: is very, very worrisome, So Taylor, Taylor was not home

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Speaker 2: at the time, thanks goodness, But this hasn't stopped him

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Speaker 2: very very serious subject matter. As we've talked about on

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Speaker 2: the show, Taylor Swift does not take her security lightly.

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Speaker 2: She spends millions of dollars each year on security. Inside

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Speaker 2: has tell me that maybe after the President of the

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. So I think she's okay, But should she

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Speaker 2: live like this? Should she have to live like this? Yes,

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Speaker 2: being famous and rich comes with a cost, but is

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Speaker 2: this a cost that is acceptable? Which brings us to

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Speaker 2: our pole question of the day. Tailors with alleged stalker

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Speaker 2: has been arrested again just minutes after he was released

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Speaker 2: without bail. Do we need stronger stalking lords? What do

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Speaker 2: you think about this? If somebody has been loitering outside

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Speaker 2: your apartment thirty times in a few months, there has

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Speaker 2: to be something we can do about it. Or do

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Speaker 2: we have to wait until the unthinkable happens, until something

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Speaker 2: I really really have a dilemma with. I believe in

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Speaker 2: individual rights, I believe in individual freedoms, but those freedoms

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Speaker 2: stop when you start to threaten somebody else. I'm told

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Speaker 2: by my tailor's sources that she's so upset about this

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Speaker 2: she might in fact dump New York. She loves New York.

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Speaker 2: New York is really her place. She likes going out

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Speaker 2: and about. We see her at the restaurants. She loves

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Speaker 2: living here. But is it just too dangerous now? For

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Speaker 2: some like Taylor Swift? Is it too dangerous to be here?

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Speaker 2: Should she go to a place in the country that

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Speaker 2: have have stricter laws? Should she go to places that

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Speaker 2: have gated community? In New York, we all live on

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Speaker 2: the street, even the richest people on Fifth Avenue and

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Speaker 2: does not happen in LA. They're gated community, surrounded by

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Speaker 2: What do you think about?

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Speaker 1: This?

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Speaker 2: Is New York just not a good town for somebody

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Speaker 2: as famous as Taylor Swift? And what do you think

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Speaker 2: about these laws? Do we need stronger stalking laws? Go

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Speaker 1: Back on Monday to.

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Speaker 2: Hear your results. We have a new celebrity feud Sophia Viagara.

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Speaker 2: I love that name, and Kelly Clarkson really got into

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Speaker 1: Sophia was not.

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Speaker 2: Happy when Kelly Clarkson downplayed her transformation for a new

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Speaker 2: Kelly said that I don't really feel you changed much

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Speaker 2: apart from your nose, and Sophia was visibly shocked and said,

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Speaker 2: looks slight, you know what I'm saying. But then the

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Speaker 2: Modern Family alum cut her off and said, no, Kelly,

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Speaker 2: it took hours. She was in the makeup chair for

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Speaker 2: and she said shut up. Finally Kelly got the hint

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Speaker 2: and started to backtrack and gave her a compliment, saying,

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Speaker 2: So I don't think Kelly was trying to be rude here,

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Speaker 2: but have you ever done that? Have you been in

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Speaker 2: a conversation where you're saying something the other person does

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Speaker 2: not want to hear. Sophia Vagara wants to win an Oscar,

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Speaker 2: She wants to win awards. She knows that those roles

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Speaker 2: where you make a massive transformation, particularly when you're a

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Speaker 2: Lots of people have won Academy Awards for doing that,

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Speaker 2: and so I think Sophia is really proud that she

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Speaker 2: did this. And then Kelly sort of diminished it, saying

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Speaker 2: it looked quote slight and she didn't notice that big

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Speaker 2: a difference. So I hit the phones. My sources are

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Speaker 2: saying Sophia is not upset that Kelly said she looked

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Speaker 2: like a Clumbian drug lord. No, that's not what upset.

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Speaker 2: What upset is that she wants to win awards for this.

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Speaker 2: She wants to prove she's a serious actress, and she

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Speaker 2: another role where she played Letting a bombshell, she could

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Speaker 2: do it, but this is not It's a very different role,

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Speaker 2: and she felt a little bit disrespected by Kelly. Finally

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Speaker 2: Kelly got the hint. I do this sometimes I'm talking

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Speaker 2: you'll pick up those cues. Well, Kelly just was not listening.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes we've talk show hosts, they have the

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Speaker 2: Never ever do that on TV when you're with your friends.

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Speaker 2: Don't come with pre prepared questions because if you do,

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Speaker 2: when Sophia made it clear that this was a massive transformation,

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Speaker 1: Kelly should have said, tell me about it. What did

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Speaker 2: How long did the process take? Were they teeth? Were

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Speaker 1: No? Always? Were wigs involved? What's plastic? From here to hear?

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Speaker 2: I think she could had a really good conversation. You

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Speaker 2: got to listen, everybody. I'm not I'm not trashing Kelly

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Speaker 2: Clarks and you know I love her, but it's a

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this story's wild, so now we're finding out that

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Speaker 2: Kevin Costner had strong suspicions that his ex wife was

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Speaker 2: involved in a romantic relationship with the neighbor. You heard

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Speaker 2: that right, So Kevin had an inkling that his ex wife,

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Speaker 2: Christina was romantically involved with their neighbor, Josh Connor. According

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Speaker 2: to a new report The Yellowstone Star and the handbag designer,

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Speaker 2: they share three kids, finally settled a really really ugly,

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Speaker 2: bitter divorce since September. She has moved on since then

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Speaker 2: that there was something going on between Christine and Shosh.

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Speaker 2: the divorce. It was an ugly divorce. They threw everything

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Speaker 2: It's over. It was ugly, ugly, but it is over.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I do that. I just can't put down the sword.

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Speaker 2: Ben Affleck reunited with his ex Jennifer Garner. I got

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Speaker 2: So Ben reunited with his ex, Jennifer Gartner at their son,

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Speaker 2: They share three children together, Violet, Seraphina and Samuel, who

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Speaker 1: Now, what do you do? Is the person making you

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Speaker 2: Spouse, is your wife? Is Jennifer Lobez. My sources are

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Speaker 2: I love it when celebrities really really do tell the truth. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you weren't friends. So stasy's thirsty. She's done a million

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Speaker 2: I hit the phones. My sources tell me she never

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Speaker 1: That's not a good luck. Even though she.

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Speaker 2: this isn't a good look for Bravo. There's too many

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Speaker 2: let's end with a moment of rub. You get a rub,

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Speaker 2: You get a rubb you get a rub, You get

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Speaker 2: fast enough. Let me tell you a little secret Naughties.

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Speaker 2: Your dreams are closer than you think. And get this,

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Speaker 2: They're close, you can catch them. Stop chasing them and

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Speaker 2: my friends. I want you to have a brilliant weekend.

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Speaker 2: That is it for this week. Thank you so much

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