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Speaker 1: And then we say, well, hold on a second. Your

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Speaker 1: models claimed that this was with mitigation, not without mitigation,

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Speaker 1: so oh no, but the mitigation has gone even better

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Speaker 1: than the models. I mean, this is this is the

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Speaker 1: problem with trying to use numbers to predict, you know,

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Speaker 1: to predict the future, which is what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: This is a very complex system. Now, yeah, can you

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Speaker 1: tell if it's going up or going down? Shore They

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Speaker 1: know that cases are going to go up, in debts

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Speaker 1: are going to go up, that all that all has

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Speaker 1: been correct. They've been right on that. So on that

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Speaker 1: fundamental point, fine, established clear. But a lot of what

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Speaker 1: we're doing is based upon the severity of this. And

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Speaker 1: for those of you who are listening to the show

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Speaker 1: right now out in in you know, Kansas, in Denver,

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Speaker 1: in San Diego, in Austin, you all have different levels

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Speaker 1: of cases. You all have different state and local ordinances

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Speaker 1: that are in place in order to try to keep

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Speaker 1: people safe. And uh, this this RelA, this unwillingness to

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Speaker 1: rely on data in the specifics about place by place

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Speaker 1: seems to me to be curious. I would like a

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Speaker 1: better explanation for why that is the case, but I

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Speaker 1: gotta ring back. I got a little bit off for

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Speaker 1: a moment here because I want to go to the

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Speaker 1: debate over chloroquine. I mentioned to you this hydroxy chloroquine.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I mentioned to you this New York

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Speaker 1: Times story. But the part of it that has really

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Speaker 1: gotten a lot of people very worked up was this.

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Speaker 1: This is from the New York Times. Okay, if hydroxy

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Speaker 1: chloroquine becomes an accepted treatment, several pharmaceutical companies stand to profit,

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Speaker 1: including shareholders and senior executives with connections to the president.

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Speaker 1: Mister Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Senafi,

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Speaker 1: the French drug maker that makes Plaquinil, the brand name

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Speaker 1: version of hydroxy chloroquine. Okay, folks, This then turns into

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Speaker 1: I mean, Morning Joe is actually a show with unbelievable

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Speaker 1: It's a show with people on it for people watching

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Speaker 1: who all of them think that they're really really bright

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Speaker 1: and they they say idiocy on the show, and then

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Speaker 1: they take in the idiocy and think it's brilliant at home.

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Speaker 1: What does that say about the viewers? The show is

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Speaker 1: a mess. It's a it's an appalling stupidity on a

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Speaker 1: daily basis. And The Morning Joe host Amka Britain and

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Speaker 1: our wife of the host, You Knows Whatever. Mourning Joe

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Speaker 1: host Mika Bridginsky suggested that Trump has a financial tie

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Speaker 1: to hydroxy chloroquinn. She said, a lot of people would say,

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Speaker 1: follow the money. There's got to be some sort of

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Speaker 1: financial tie to someone somewhere that has the President pushing

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Speaker 1: this repeatedly. Now, before we get in, there is a

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Speaker 1: financial tie, and it's so laughably absurd that only a

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Speaker 1: moron could think that it matters at all. And I

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Speaker 1: mean that, but before we get in the financial tide,

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Speaker 1: notice the assumption that is built into this. The assumption

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Speaker 1: is Trump doesn't care enough about his fellow Americans and

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Speaker 1: care enough about human life to merely want to just

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Speaker 1: root for a drug that could end up preventing a

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Speaker 1: lot of people from dying from Oregon failure because of

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Speaker 1: this virus and aards and the cytokine storm and all

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Speaker 1: these different processes that doctors don't even really understand all

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Speaker 1: that well, you know, they know what it is, but

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Speaker 1: they don't know how to stop it, and they don't

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Speaker 1: have a great they don't have a great tool kit

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Speaker 1: for raining it in. But with all of all of

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Speaker 1: this going on, they won't even give the president. This

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Speaker 1: reminds me when I said on the Bill Mars Show

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Speaker 1: before all this happened, I said, President Trump does not

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Speaker 1: want a single American to die from this? Can you?

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Speaker 1: At least it is whatever you think of him ethically,

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Speaker 1: And I think he's a much better person than liberals do.

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Speaker 1: I think he cares about people. I think he does

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Speaker 1: his best, and he's not a perfect guy. No, he's

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Speaker 1: a perfect guy. But no matter what you think of

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Speaker 1: him ethically politically, he doesn't want a single person to

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Speaker 1: die from this. So his interests are aligned with the

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Speaker 1: interests of the American people. And there's no matter what

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Speaker 1: do you think of his ethic. They wouldn't even concede that.

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Speaker 1: They say, they just ignored that. You know, Bill started cursing,

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Speaker 1: And that's what they do when they get into a

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Speaker 1: real discussion over there, someone just starts cursing and making

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Speaker 1: stupid jokes because they don't have real arguments to make,

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Speaker 1: and it reminds me of this. They will not concede

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Speaker 1: that President Trump would just root for a drug to

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Speaker 1: be successful because he wants people to feel healthy again,

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Speaker 1: because he wants less death. Mika Prusienska, you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: they're paying or it's not enough. It's not enough to

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Speaker 1: just light your soul on fire in front of America

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Speaker 1: every morning. It's so there's no way she's that stupid

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Speaker 1: that she really believes that. But it's very personally. You see,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people for whom the Trump

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Speaker 1: arrangement is a personal issue. With Mika and Joe, they

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Speaker 1: thought they were going to to be in the close

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Speaker 1: to power seat here. They thought they would have a

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Speaker 1: president that they had a very good personal relationship with,

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Speaker 1: and when that was taken away because Trump had a

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Speaker 1: you know, they had a fallen out. Now they're just

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Speaker 1: on an anti Trump gi hut all the time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: back to hydroxy chloroquin and sen Offie. Because you have

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Speaker 1: other people, you know, blue checks a plenty. Ian Sam's

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Speaker 1: who is this guy? I gotta find out who? I

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Speaker 1: don't even know. He's a blue check so he's one

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Speaker 1: of these verified Oh, national Press secretary for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: There we go, he was one. They're all all over

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Speaker 1: the place. I mean, I can just line them up,

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Speaker 1: you know. Now. One thing that lives like to do

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Speaker 1: that's very annoying is when we all know they're saying something,

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Speaker 1: they go, who's saying that? No one's sang that, And

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Speaker 1: then you gotta go and you pull together, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten different tweets and videos of people on TV saying

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Speaker 1: exactly what you've said. But they just this is now

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Speaker 1: just a way to gaslight. You know, one's saying that,

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Speaker 1: and then their friends they're falling. Yeah, person's lying. And

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Speaker 1: then you go and you find all the proof because

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Speaker 1: they're they're all saying it, and then they just don't respond.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the games. This is like like

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Speaker 1: the way that children debate, children argue, but the Left

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Speaker 1: is really the political party of cry baby children. Hydroxy

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Speaker 1: chloroquin is made by a whole bunch of different companies.

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Speaker 1: There is no patent right now on hydroxy chloroquine. It

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Speaker 1: is off patent, which means that places different companies can

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Speaker 1: make and do make huge amounts of it as a

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Speaker 1: generic drug. So there is no huge finance. Anybody who's

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Speaker 1: not a moron, which does not include our our elite media.

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Speaker 1: By the way, there are some very very stupid people

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Speaker 1: in our elite media. Anybody would understand that the financial

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Speaker 1: incentive for Trump to push this drug does not exist.

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Speaker 1: Trump might as well be out there talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: how he really wants people to drink, you know, water

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Speaker 1: out of the tap. And then people say, oh, he's

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Speaker 1: trying to make a fortune. He owns, you know, stock

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Speaker 1: and heavy honor. So it's just it's so dumb that

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Speaker 1: it defies belief. There's not gonna be some huge amount

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Speaker 1: of money there because any pharmacy, how do you pick

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Speaker 1: the company that's going to make all this money off

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Speaker 1: of it when they can all make generics and they

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Speaker 1: will make generics because this is a a emergency usage,

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Speaker 1: emergency case usage. But it's it's even better because because

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Speaker 1: the New York Times reported on this, the small financial interest.

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Speaker 1: I want to take you through exactly what the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States, what his financial interest in a

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Speaker 1: hydroxy chloroquin making drug compan We've already talked about how

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Speaker 1: they they're assuming that he doesn't just want it to

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Speaker 1: be better for people, which is insane. And they are

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Speaker 1: skipping past the fact that this is not It's a

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Speaker 1: drug that's off patent has been for over a decade,

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Speaker 1: so it's cheap and it's going to continue to be cheap.

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Speaker 1: And and they just blithely glide past. How big of

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Speaker 1: a financial stake does he have? Oh, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: you're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Show podcast. All right, hat hat tip Mike Sernovitch, who

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Speaker 1: pulled this together on Twitter. And I saw the financial

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Speaker 1: breakdown and it's exactly what I would have expected, I

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Speaker 1: tweeted out before even reading this. Well, what are we

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Speaker 1: talking about? Here are a few a few thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: of stock. No, it's not even that. Trump doesn't even

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Speaker 1: own stock in the company per se. He didn't buy

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Speaker 1: equities that are tied to sun offie that that are

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Speaker 1: part of sun OFFI. No, he owns one thousand to

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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars of Dodge and Cox Fund. According to

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Speaker 1: his financial disclosures dogs Docs not dogs, Sorry, that's Telula

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Speaker 1: Docs and Cox Is fund has two point nine percent

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Speaker 1: of its money in Senafi. So Trump owns two point

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Speaker 1: nine percent of somewhere between one thousand and fifteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Trump owns between twenty nine and four hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: five dollars of stock The New York Times talking about

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Speaker 1: his financial interest in this drug maker, These people are

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Speaker 1: out of their g D minds. This is the biggest

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Speaker 1: newspaper in the country. We're going through a pandemic. They

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Speaker 1: think Trump is rooting for this drug to work so

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Speaker 1: that he could make fifty dollars. Maybe he's a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: You imbeciles. What are you doing? And Mika and others,

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Speaker 1: they're all running around saying this and they don't care

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Speaker 1: how stupid they are. It just doesn't matter because they

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Speaker 1: hate Trump and that's all that they can think of.

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Speaker 1: But this isn't even off brand for them. The Washington

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Speaker 1: Post and others did all this analysis of people who

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Speaker 1: are going in and buying this is true, and they

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Speaker 1: try to get this going with the emolument's clause. Right,

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Speaker 1: this is back before the pandemic, when life was normal.

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Speaker 1: If they did an analysis of foreign diplomats who bought

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Speaker 1: food and drinks at the Trump hotel bar, and it

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Speaker 1: was something like a couple of hundred thousand dollars over

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Speaker 1: the course of the first two or three years the

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Speaker 1: Trump was in office, and it was dozens, if not

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Speaker 1: hundreds of you know, hundreds of different diplomats that they're

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Speaker 1: talking about here doing this, and they said that, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe this will influence his foreign policy. This is buying

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Speaker 1: foreign this is buying access. No, this is buying a cheeseburger.

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Speaker 1: You utter lunatics. What is wrong with you? What is

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Speaker 1: wrong with the left? Like there really is a mass

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Speaker 1: psychosis of anti Trumpism and they can't they can't get

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Speaker 1: a handle on even now, they really believe the president

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Speaker 1: is rooting for hydroxy chloric into work, not because it

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Speaker 1: would perhaps save us from, you know, the collapse of America.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's going to happen, but things aren't

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Speaker 1: getting pretty sketchy out there, folks. No, he's not rooting

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Speaker 1: for it for that. He's not rooting for it to

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Speaker 1: a lot of lives. It's so he can make fifty bucks.

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Speaker 1: That's how evil he is. Anyone who believes that is

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Speaker 1: a moron who should be careful and they try to

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Speaker 1: tie their shoes. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sex

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Speaker 1: and Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. There are

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Speaker 1: lots of anecdotes, really important anecdotes that might point the

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Speaker 1: way forward, but there is not the kind of wealth

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Speaker 1: of evidence that experts and in doctors need to see.

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Speaker 1: In Doctor Anthony Founting others have made that very clear.

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Speaker 1: But President Trump could who's to promote this drug because

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Speaker 1: he's hearing about it from his friends and his allies

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Speaker 1: on Fox News and tonight's Washington Post report is quite

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Speaker 1: disturbing because it shows that Fox is a real pipeline

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Speaker 1: for the President about medical advice. Laura Ingram and two

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Speaker 1: regulars on Ingram Show visited the White House last week

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Speaker 1: to hype this drugget. In the meantime done people like

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Speaker 1: my wife who need this drug. My wife has Arthur writis,

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00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: so she uses plaquein now, which is a brand version

643
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: of this drug, to keep her symptoms under control. People

644
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: like my wife need this drug and they're worried about

645
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: shortages because there's all this hype on Fox News about

646
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: the drug. Okay, let's let's break this down a bit,

647
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: shall we. First of Bran Stout getting in from Fox News,

648
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean CNN has been an abomination for years and

649
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: that's not changing now. The President is not getting getting

650
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: his medical advice from Fox News. He has what are

651
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: supposed to be world class experts, nothing to do with

652
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: their politics or anything else, advising him every day on this.

653
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: He has access. The President wants to talk to anyone,

654
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: the CDC, the NIH he can just get them on

655
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: the phone, or you can just talk to the head

656
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: of any these organizations. Whatever information he wants access to,

657
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: he has. This is this is not complicated. This, This

658
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: is a straightforward part of this. So why do we

659
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: have to keep hearing that he's not listening to medical

660
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: experts when either Laura Ingram or Tucker Carlson. I thought

661
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Tucker Show last night was great. I think Tucker is

662
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: showing how political commentary, or rather cable news commentary can

663
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: be both really engaging and really meaningful for policy. But

664
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: all the different shows on Fox that have experts on

665
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: doctors on to talk about there, they're talking about their

666
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: experience and using this drug. Why is that not relevant?

667
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Who's the real conspiracy theorist here? I've spoken to doctors

668
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: here in New York who are treating COVID patients and

669
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: doctors who have told me that they already are using

670
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: this drug. Andrew Andrew Cuomo, the governor here, has approved

671
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: doctors who think they should use it to use it.

672
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: It is a drug that is already clear by the FDA,

673
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: and we don't have anything better right now. Some are

674
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: saying that Ramdessevie, which is a Gilead pharmaceutical drug, might

675
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: be a little bit better for reduction of the virus

676
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: in the very very ill, But that's all anecdotal. That's

677
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: just all you know. You saw this, I saw all

678
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: that you know with immunity. There are so many different

679
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: components in play. You have genetics. Increasingly, they're going to

680
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: be looking at this. Are there some genetic markers for people,

681
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: particularly younger people? And this is not just this was

682
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal. I'm not just pulling this

683
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, but this has been well known for

684
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: a while here. The the Wall Street Journal had this

685
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: piece on the genetic markers that they're going to be

686
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: looking for to see why is it that some thirty

687
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: five year olds or some forty five year olds, or

688
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: Boris Johnson for example, just believe is in stable condition.

689
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: But we sent the ICU he's only fifty five, so

690
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: he's not really at the high risk level. Why do

691
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: some people get much worse versions of the disease than others?

692
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: Is there a genetic component? And then that gives you

693
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: more information for perhaps how you can better prepare people

694
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: so that they're less likely to get the severe version

695
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: of the disease. Remember, if we could get to a

696
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: point where this was a nasty thing that happened to

697
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: people that if you got infected with this, you know,

698
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: oh it's gonna stink, you know you're gonna be it'd

699
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: be like, you know, a really bad cold. Right. If

700
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: we could get it to that point because of the treatments,

701
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: it's game changer. Right, if we could make sure people

702
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: don't if you go to the ICU, Yeah, this would

703
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: still be a bad thing and people would be in

704
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: pain from it, and it would, But if we took

705
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: out the mortality component and the severe damage to lungs,

706
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: that's a game changer for us. So that's that's what

707
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: we're trying to get to. And the only way, and

708
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: this is what a lot of these idiots in the

709
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: media don't seem to understand. The only way you're going

710
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: to have this information is if you actually use the drug.

711
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: You have to actually give this to people. They're just

712
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: not doing it in a controlled trial setting. Because who

713
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: right now, and I can tell you this, who right

714
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: now that's told, hey, your lung function is down to

715
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, a fraction, you know, twenty percent of what

716
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: it normally would be. I don't know what you know.

717
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what the real numbers are here that

718
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: they are putting people in the ICU. But your lung

719
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: function is way down, and we're gonna put you on

720
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: a ventilator. We can start you on a drug that

721
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: some people think might really be helpful, that is safe

722
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: to take, as safe as a lot of other pharmaceuticals

723
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: out there that remember Salter just said his wife takes

724
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: it for a rheumatoid arthritis, people take it for lupus?

725
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Are they Are they all having heart attacks? Are they

726
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: all having these terrible symptoms from it that mean it

727
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: to me? Make it not worthwhile? No, of course not,

728
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: although if they were. If they were, they'd pull it

729
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: off the market. Do you think that a person who

730
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: was told hey, I'm hey, you're you're about to go

731
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: on a ventilator, You're really sick, your lungs. You're in

732
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: really bad shape. We can give you the drug that

733
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: ten out of ten doctors in this or even you know, five,

734
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: let's just make it easy for We're not easy, but

735
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: let's make it more interesting for the purposes of our discussion.

736
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Five out of ten doctors in this ic you think

737
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: this might really be the key. And if they're wrong,

738
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: the side effects are minimal. What reasonable what rational mind,

739
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: facing their own possible demise would say, Nan, don't give

740
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: me that. I want to just I want to just

741
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: tough it out of my own. Let's see if my

742
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: immune system can handle it on its own. It's already

743
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: got me here in the ICU, but let me see

744
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: if I can. Just you know, I think the answer

745
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: is nobody. I can tell you what I would I mean,

746
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: I said, doc this, I said, would would you? Would

747
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: you put? You know? One one doc told me he's

748
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: already put a lot of patients on it. Another doc

749
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: that I know who's an infectious disease specialist but is

750
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: not currently actively daily seeing COVID patients. I'm talking to

751
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: as many doctors as I can, anyone who's in my

752
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: life who's a really brilliant MD. I'm reaching out to

753
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: on this, anyone that I know, anyone that I've come

754
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: into contact with through media, And I said, well, would

755
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: you put He said, not only would he put people

756
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: on this, he would consider putting them on it earlier

757
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: than even having to go to the hospital to see

758
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: if there is some uh not not prophylactic effect, but

759
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: if the timeline really is critical, here is, and you

760
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: get the drug into people's system sooner and it's less

761
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: likely that the virus will be will be prevented from

762
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: replicating in a way, you know, whatever, whatever the mechanism is.

763
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: And they're still figuring that out, but you won't get

764
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: really really sick. Is the idea instead of waiting until

765
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: you're really really sick. I know doc who says that

766
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: he'd give it to people before that. And we're being

767
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: told that there there could be shortages for other people

768
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: out there. We'll no, We'll just make sure that anyone

769
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: who needs the drug will get the drug. Why you know,

770
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: are we being told that some doctors can have masks

771
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: but other doctors can't have masks. No, we're saying, okay, well,

772
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: we'll stock up, we'll staff up, we'll make sure we

773
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: get the equipment that people need. We'll make sure people

774
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: get the drugs that they need. This is only going

775
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: there's only going to be a run on this drug,

776
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: a real run on it. If in a month, we're

777
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: still sitting here saying a lot of more and more doctors,

778
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: more and more people say they're you know, they made

779
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: it through because of this, and that would be a

780
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: magnificent place for us to be in as as a species,

781
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: even for humanity, not just for this country. Instead, we

782
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: have to hear any mean Trump he is pushing for financially.

783
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: These people are sick in the head, they really are.

784
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: They think that Trump wants people to die, or doesn't care,

785
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: or he only wants to make a couple of hundred bucks.

786
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: The guy's a billionaire. I mean, I wouldn't say this

787
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: about you know, Hillary Clinton, and she's a grasping, greedy maniac, right,

788
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: but she's worth millions of dollars. I don't think that

789
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: she would want to do something for one hundred bucks.

790
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: You can't get we all know this, Hillary Clinton. You

791
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: can't get her out of bed in the morning for

792
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: less than a quarter of a million to give a

793
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: speech somewhere. He's not gonna, not gonna be out there

794
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: pushing for it's it's just so dumb. It's you almost

795
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: feel dumb saying it out loud that someone else believes this.

796
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: You're like, how how could we have to even say this?

797
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: So this this war on chloric when that's happening or

798
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: hydroxy chloric when that's happening right now from the left

799
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: and the partisanship behind. If people people are sniping at

800
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: me on Twitter over this too, because I've said I've

801
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: talked to doctors, and they're saying, oh, well, I've talked

802
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: to doctors who said the exact opposite. Okay, well, then

803
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: they must feel that this is really putting people in danger.

804
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Don't they have an obligation to come forward and explain that.

805
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: And if it's so dangerous and so bad, why don't

806
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: we pull it from the shelf entirely. It's it's safe

807
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: enough for people that have lupus and rhumatoid arthrite is,

808
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: but not safe enough for individuals who are very very

809
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: possible going to be not just in the ic, but

810
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: it could very very clearly die within a week or two.

811
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: Not safe enough for them. Huh. This is this is

812
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: like telling people you can't Trump thinks that you should

813
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: have a right to try different cancer treatments. So I'm

814
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: a democrat, I'm a leftist, so I want to oppose

815
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: that right to try because if Trump's for it, I

816
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: must be against it. Sorry, people that are about to

817
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: die from stage four cancer, you're not allowed to try

818
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: that thing? What if it kills you if you try it.

819
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: This is the this is the illogic, this is the

820
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: insanity that we are up against. And this is only

821
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: going to get worse as this drags on. It's going

822
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: to get worse with what we're doing about the economy,

823
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: it's going to get worse with how we're treating a disease.

824
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: And definitely on the lockdown authoritarian measures that we're increasingly

825
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into that too, we're increasingly being

826
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: told are just a necessary part of life. Now I am.

827
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: I am saddened at how It's one thing to say,

828
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna do this, but you know you're

829
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: being put on notice government that this can't continue like this.

830
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: This is a short term measure. I'm not just going

831
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: to say this is okay, and it's okay. And definitely

832
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: that you suspend the Bill of Rights, that you tell

833
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: me where I can go and what I can do,

834
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: and you know, whether I can live life at all

835
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: because you say that I'm putting other people at risk. Really,

836
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: what if? What if you've already been infected. That's why

837
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: we need ssurology tests. But there's another part of this,

838
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: and I need to talk to you about urology tests

839
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: because this is There are a few ways that this

840
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: gets a whole lot better really fast. The therapeutic is

841
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: the most obvious one. They keep talking about a vaccine,

842
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: but a vaccine to me feels like holding the carrot

843
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: way way way out there and telling us op just

844
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: behave do everything we say for the next eighteen months,

845
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: and maybe there'll be this vaccine for you and then

846
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: everything can be better. Therapeutics, at least are more short term.

847
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Hydroxy chloroquine, zinc a, zethromyc, in these different therapeutics that

848
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: you're hearing about right now, that's in the in the

849
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: immediate term. But there's another game change your possibility out there.

850
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: And I spoke to a doctor in at some extent

851
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: about it. Yesterday. I spent about forty five minutes on

852
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: the phone with an infectious disease doc who you know,

853
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: it's just a wealth of knowledge. But all this I'm

854
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk to you a little bit about zerology tests.

855
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: I'll try to you know, and people are saying, oh, well,

856
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: can you get some of these the doctors who are

857
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: active in the healthcare and in the hospital system right now,

858
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: they really can't get, you know that it's not comfortable

859
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: for them to go public and on the reco Some

860
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: of them can, but you've got to go through the

861
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: press office, and they don't want people talking to the

862
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: media because you know, they view it as as a

863
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: risk to the reputation of the hospital. That's why the

864
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: PPE shortage, the personal protective equipment shortage. Doctors don't want

865
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: to go on record to talk about it. So there's

866
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: some sensitivity around that. And obviously, as someone who's in

867
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: the media, I'm gonna do everything i can to make

868
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: sure anyone who's bringing me, who's giving me necessary background

869
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: and just giving me helpful information. I can't allow there

870
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: to be any consequence against a first line medical provider

871
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: because he's telling me what's really going on in the hospital,

872
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: was really going on here in the city. But there

873
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: are plenty of doctors who are coming forward who are

874
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: saying very similar things. Right, So we know that there

875
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: is a movement among doctors that believe it's worth checking out,

876
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: it's worth investigating and seeing through whether hydroxy chloroquine is

877
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: the therapeutic that will help get us through this. It's

878
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: also worth pushing harder. They keep pushing for tests to

879
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: find out where the disease is. That's important. I'm not

880
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: saying it's not. Although testing testing, testing has really turned

881
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: into a It was so popular for a while because

882
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: it was a criticism of Trump in the administration because

883
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: they hadn't ramped up testing. So now that they have

884
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: a lot more testing, you're hearing much less about that,

885
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: in part because there's more testing, but also because it's

886
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: not as useful a talking point against Trump. Serology tests though,

887
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: looking for antibodies, this is big, and we'll talk about

888
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Biden and some other stuff too. I

889
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: promise you we're not just going to stick around and

890
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: go deeper and deeper into the pandemic rabbit hole of

891
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: the news here today, because I know every day that's

892
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: what dominates. We've got some thoughts for you on on

893
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: zology tests. You're in the freedom. This is the buck

894
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast that was informed that Governor Cuomo has

895
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: already told you an announced. He called me up a

896
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: little while ago and he asked whether or not it

897
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: will be possible to use the ship with respect to

898
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: fighting the virus. And we hadn't had that in mind

899
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: at all, but we're going to let him do it.

900
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: And we're also going to lead New Jersey Governor Murphy.

901
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: We spoke with him a little while ago, and New

902
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: Jersey is going to use it also because New Jersey

903
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: is at a hot spot. So Governor Murphy and Governor

904
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Cuomo are going to be using the ship New York,

905
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: New Jersey, and it's a big ship, and it's now COVID,

906
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: it's set foot COVID, and we are going to hopefully

907
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: that will be very helpful to both states. Hopefully it will.

908
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: That is that is a shift that I think a

909
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: lot of us have been expecting. Here. There aren't many

910
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: people in hospitals except for COVID nineteen right now, very

911
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: few car accidents, very few just accidents in general, very

912
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: few stabbings and shootings and things of that nature here

913
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: in New York. There's a lot less people out on

914
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: the streets, so there's there's just there's just not a

915
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: lot of non COVID activity in the hospitals, so they're switching.

916
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to they switching the United States Naval ship

917
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Comfort this hospital ship. But as I've been telling you,

918
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: I could I probably jogg doing about ten or fifteen

919
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: minutes from where I am right now. Okay, pseurology tests,

920
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of complexity here. You talk about a

921
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Liza tests and you know assays and all this. You know,

922
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not a lab tech guy, I don't know.

923
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's you can get into that with.

924
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: That's what we'll bring on a medical expert to talk about.

925
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: But I can tell you this. Pseurology tests would be

926
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: looking for antibodies in your system. Antibody in your system

927
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: would prove that you had been exposed and or infected.

928
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: And now you're past it and you have immunity to

929
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: this disease. This was spreading like wildfire in February, in March,

930
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: and it's only recently that we've locked down. And they

931
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: say that's brought down the curve, that's that's been lessingly spread. Okay,

932
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: it is completely feasible. I won't say probable, but it's

933
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: feasible that there are a lot of people who are

934
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: infected with this, and in fact that they tell us

935
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: as they think that there are a lot of people

936
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: infected to know it all right, Well, think about how

937
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: that changes the dynamic here. If we get zoology tests

938
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: out there and we find out that there are millions

939
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: of Americans who have antibodies to this, you know, you

940
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: could extrapolate it out, do a random sampling of the population,

941
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: and then then you look at what the data tells you.

942
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: And let's say that there's there's a belief that millions

943
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: of people were exposed to this and millions of them

944
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: already have the antibodies. Well, then that doesn't that show

945
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: us that one there's already some herd immunity effect. If

946
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: that were the case, this is all based on what

947
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: could happen. I'm not saying this is happening some herd

948
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: immunity effect in place, whereby if you have millions of

949
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: people who are immune to this, they can go back

950
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: to work. And it would also raise questions about what

951
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: really is bringing down the curve. Is it that the

952
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: infection spread and a lot of people were infected and

953
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: didn't know it and now have immunity and therefore aren't

954
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: spreading it even further. These are just the questions that

955
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: you'd have better data to answer. We are making determinations

956
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: here based on incomplete and faulty data every day, and

957
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: anyone who's telling you otherwise is not looking at the numbers.

958
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're talking about. But prology testing

959
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: to show that there is a there is a much

960
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: broader degree of infection from this that was previously thought,

961
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: and therefore people that are through it and fine, they'd

962
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: be able to go back to work. And not only that,

963
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, if I had a sureality us, for example,

964
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: I could know that I could spend time with members

965
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: of my family who are higher risk and not have

966
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: to worry about it, and I could take better care

967
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: of them and not have to be concerned about being

968
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: in close contact with them. Serology testing is key. This

969
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: needs to happen soon. This needs to be an absolute

970
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: priority because it'll also tell us a lot more about

971
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: this disease, given how how highly infectious this is. You know,

972
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: but Boris Johnson's got it, Tom Hanks has got it,

973
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: and people all over the world have got it, and

974
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: you know it's something that we've obviously been caught unaware

975
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, been called unaware of how

976
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: quickly this would this would spread if millions and millions

977
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: and millions of people have it, or rather had gotten

978
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: it and didn't even know it, were asymptomatic or had

979
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: such low symptoms that they didn't know. That also changes

980
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: substantially the mortality rate and makes us think more about

981
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: protecting vulnerable populations instead of being in this role shutdown

982
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: and series of shutdowns, and you know, there's there's gonna

983
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: be questions eventually asked about whether this was the way

984
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: that this shutdown was done, Was this the right move?

985
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: The prology tests are going to play into that a

986
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: lot um. They're gonna well, we have to see what

987
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: the data says, but we need these blood tests to

988
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: look for antibodies to show that we have immunity. We

989
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: needed a SAP. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson

990
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 1: Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app,

991
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. We are all in

992
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: this together and if it saves just one life, anything

993
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: is justifiable. Right. This is this is what you're hearing

994
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: more and more as we get deeper into this, this

995
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen crisis, Buhan virus crisis. That was a drone

996
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: flying above the heads of people in Brooklyn and New

997
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: York City doing exactly what you could hear telling people

998
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: you got to stay six feet apart. And people often,

999
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: I think overuse the term Orwellian. You know, a lot

1000
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: of them have never read Orwell and don't know what

1001
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: they're talking about. But that's that's pretty Orwellian. You know that,

1002
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: that's very much out of the playbook of Big Brother,

1003
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: to have a flying drone that is telling everybody that

1004
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: they need to maintain a certain distance. And you know,

1005
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: this is this is where I get really concerned. I

1006
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: get concerned because we're heading toward a turnkey totalitarians eight

1007
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: we are. We have people now in the largest numbers

1008
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: I've ever seen who It's one thing to say, I'm

1009
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: going to give you this all right, I'm going to

1010
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: give you the keys to the car to get us

1011
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: to the hospital, even though you're an unlicensed driver, but

1012
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: we're in an emergency. It's another thing to just be like, oh,

1013
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: you demand the keys to the car, and you know,

1014
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had a few drinks, Sure,

1015
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: take him as long as you want. Gopher a gopher,

1016
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: a ryde, do whatever you want to do. We're just

1017
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: giving up these rights without even having a discussion about

1018
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: what's going on. There's a story out in Colorado about

1019
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: a man who was at a playground with his daughter

1020
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: and he was arrested in front of her for not

1021
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: adhering to social distancing. I just saw that story break

1022
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: before I came on the air. There are videos out

1023
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: there of people who are paddle boarding out in the

1024
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: ocean by themselves, not just feet, hundreds of yards from

1025
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: another human being. Nope, the beaches are closed, shut down,

1026
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: shut down, shut down. They're shutting down the parks, they're

1027
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: shutting down the beaches. They're shutting down all these things.

1028
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: And if you ask, you say, hold on a second.

1029
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: I thought that the rule, the rule we had all

1030
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: agreed to with social distancing. But now increasingly what's happening

1031
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: is they're just saying, oh, sorry, because not everyone does

1032
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: exactly what we say, we punish everyone. This is the

1033
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: ultimate usurpation. This is the ultimate usurpation of constitutional rights

1034
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: and individual prerogative by the state. This is a big,

1035
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: big problem. I've never seen anything like this in my life.

1036
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: And I understand that people would say bucket's necessary and

1037
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: it's temporary. Maybe it's necessary. Fine, although I'm more I'm

1038
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: much more willing to have a debate about the specifics

1039
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: of these individual measures. Really, it was necessary to tell

1040
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: everybody no more school, go home, and don't leave your home. Oh,

1041
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: you might be a sixteen year old who has a

1042
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: cough and thinks it's no big deal, but now you're

1043
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: living in close quarters in a six hundred square foot

1044
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: apartment with grandma. Yeah, that's a that's a brilliant idea

1045
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: that they just one size fits all all of us

1046
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: here in New York, Wasn't that's a great idea. Cuolo

1047
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: was even said, I love this lives go. Oh, what

1048
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: do you know that the governor who's controlling this is like, yeah,

1049
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: maybe that was a bad idea, but we did it. No,

1050
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I want to have a debate. I want

1051
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: to have a discussion about how long do we see

1052
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: these rights? How long are we told that you're not

1053
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: you're not you're not allowed to go to work. One

1054
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: of the biggest and I was I did tweet about

1055
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: this right away, the absurdity of it. In the opening

1056
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: weeks of the lockdown, we're told, we're told, you know,

1057
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: you can only go basically for groceries, order to the pharmacy. Okay,

1058
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: I went into a Whole Foods here in New York

1059
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: because you know, I like my boogie cuts of meat

1060
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: and you know, my fish and all that stuff. Right

1061
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: I like, I'm trying to find a way to say this.

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Speaker 1: You know, I like the fancy Whole food stuff sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and I'm in Whole Foods and it is it was.

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Speaker 1: It was just packed. It was like a New York

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Speaker 1: City subway car at eight o'clock in the morning, head

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Speaker 1: down to Midtown and well, okay, this is now a

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Speaker 1: place where not only bringing people together in close quarters,

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Speaker 1: but as Tucker pointed out on his TV show last night,

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Speaker 1: everyone has to go to the place in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: So you're creating one concentrated location where everyone is going

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Speaker 1: and they're going to be in close quarters. You know that.

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Speaker 1: We're told, Oh, yeah, you know, if you're on avocado

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Speaker 1: and you know, you need to make some guacamole. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: if you want to go for a walk in the

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Speaker 1: park and you know, somebody sees I keep seeing people

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Speaker 1: showing photos of you know, oh, there are a hundred

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Speaker 1: people in this park. Okay, are they staying six feet

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Speaker 1: away from each other? Are they holding hands and you know,

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Speaker 1: making out and snuggling. If they're just standing six feet

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Speaker 1: away from each other, what's the problem. But we're turning

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Speaker 1: into because we're scared, and we are. We're so scared

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Speaker 1: as a country, and a lot of you are like, buck,

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Speaker 1: I'm not scared. Yeah, good, but you look around. You'll

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01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 1: see fear has just washed over this nation right now.

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Speaker 1: And it's when you're scared that the state has its

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Speaker 1: greatest opportunity to seize more power, to make more demands.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's not the It's so interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: We've been told for years that Trump was a dictator,

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Speaker 1: he was even Hitler, like he was a fascist. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is stuff that supposed intellectuals have been spewing for years.

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Speaker 1: This is now a perfect scenario if Trump were the

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Speaker 1: person the left had pretended that he was for the

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01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: last going on four years, you couldn't foresee a situation

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Speaker 1: more ready made for a seizure of power and totalitarianism

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Speaker 1: ensuing than what you have right now. And Trump is

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Speaker 1: the one who's saying, let's get back to work, Let's

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Speaker 1: give people back their freedoms, let's give people back their rights.

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Speaker 1: We'll take care of people. We're going to try to

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Speaker 1: lower death as much as possible. But you know, we

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Speaker 1: need we need human beings to have autonomy. Here, we

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Speaker 1: can't do this thing. It's the expert class. It's the

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Speaker 1: administrative state. And yes it's you know, state governments that

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Speaker 1: are blue dominated, in particularly some red states are engaging

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Speaker 1: in very similar activity. They're the ones that are saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: you do it our way on this or else. Ah okay.

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Speaker 1: So the turnkey totalitarianism isn't something that Trump is in

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Speaker 1: any way capitalizing on. He's in fact pushing against that.

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Speaker 1: It is the administrative state. It is the expert class

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Speaker 1: filtering through different states across the Union, blue and red

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Speaker 1: states that are doing what they think that they've been

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01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: told to do, and they're going to make other people comply.

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Speaker 1: You must comply with this or else we're going to

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Speaker 1: run out of patients. We're going to run out of patients. Now,

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Speaker 1: there is an ideological divide here between the left and

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Speaker 1: the right, where the left is much more comfortable with

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01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: being told what to do by government. They still believe

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Speaker 1: in the system in a way that people who are

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Speaker 1: of a conservative mindset just don't. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: the government is going to be highly effective. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that the government is going to save us all

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Speaker 1: and knows what it's doing, and until proven otherwise, that

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Speaker 1: is how I approach every action the government is taking.

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Speaker 1: Right I've been skeptical that they really understand what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: And as soon as it has become clear that this

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Speaker 1: is a moment in time where we are facing a

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Speaker 1: real crisis, I'm not my sense of the government's ability

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Speaker 1: to handle this is not elevated. I'm even more concerned

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Speaker 1: what will they do here? You look at their response

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Speaker 1: after nine to eleven, and that was a Republican administration,

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Speaker 1: and that was George W. Bush, I think is a

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01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: good man. But there would look, there were excesses, there

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01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: were things that didn't need to happen. There there was

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Speaker 1: a war that now if you look back on the

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Speaker 1: war in Iraq is a very I mean to call

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Speaker 1: it questionable is charitable. So there are this is a

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Speaker 1: risk and we know this. Look look to history and

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Speaker 1: see government once it has a taste of certain powers,

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Speaker 1: does not want to give them up. It does not

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Speaker 1: want to give them up. And then you might say, buck,

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Speaker 1: what about what about FDR and World War Two and

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Speaker 1: the interment of Japanese Americans for example. You know they

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Speaker 1: stopped doing that after the war. Well, the war was

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01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: wars are one limited in duration. But yes, look look

1144
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Speaker 1: at the new deal. Look at FDR and the ramifications

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Speaker 1: of the changes that were implemented during a time of

1146
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: tremendous darrests in this country. We're still living with them

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Speaker 1: to this day. In fact, there's a reason why liberals

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: are running around screaming about how they want a new

1149
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: new deal now, because they understand that enlarging the government

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Speaker 1: during a term of crisis is so much easier. People

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: are scared, they don't know what to do, and they

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01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: want someone or something to keep them safe, and there

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01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: will be a there's a very easy exchange of liberty

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Speaker 1: that occurs there. And I am troubled to see this

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Speaker 1: happening all across the country where you know, I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to say, if the government tells me that I have

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Speaker 1: to stay at home for the next year, let's say,

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Speaker 1: and they just say, sorry, stay home for the year.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start violating those mandates. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to do it for a year. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to do it for six months, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: three or four, I guess, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I'm in New York. I'm facing this stuff everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But there are limits. And they tell us, They tell us, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: don't worry, we know that this can't be forever. But

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Speaker 1: then when you say, okay, because I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to comply forever, then they then the

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Speaker 1: statuss bristle let you a little bit. Then of a

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: sudden they get a little vicious. What do you mean,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to do what we say? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean there are risks in life, right,

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Speaker 1: There are things that people are allowed to determine for

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Speaker 1: themselves and that the state does not. The state does

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: not get to say that you do not get to

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Speaker 1: live a normal life indefinitely because they think, according to

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Speaker 1: some experts that they've talked to, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be better for all of us. They can say it

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Speaker 1: for a month, they can say it for a few months, maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, they can claim that this is an emergency power.

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Speaker 1: But we need to have in place that part of

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Speaker 1: our own mind, that part of our own psychology that says,

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Speaker 1: all right, but you're not. This isn't just limited government

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Speaker 1: because you say it will be. It's limited because we,

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Speaker 1: the people, are telling you it will be. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to run into this. This is not just going

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01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: to be theoretical, because what's going to happen is we're

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Speaker 1: going to get these cases down. The country is going

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: to be really sick and tired of this. We're going

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: to have more and more data, zerological testing. We're going

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Speaker 1: to know more about the truth of how widespread this

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01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: virus is and you know how well it can be

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Speaker 1: treated and what the real mortality is. And you're going

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Speaker 1: to have an enormous conflict between those who want to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's go, let's get back to some degree

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Speaker 1: of normalcy, and those who say, no, you're going to

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Speaker 1: stay and shut down. You're going to do what we

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Speaker 1: say or else because we're smarter and we know better.

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Speaker 1: That's really at the heart of the left of modern

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Speaker 1: liberalism of progressivism. You do what we say because we're

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Speaker 1: smarter than you. And that's one of the reasons why

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: they're rerunning the history of how this pandemic has already

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01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: occurred because nobody knew what to do about this in

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Speaker 1: the early stages. Nobody was properly prepared in this country,

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01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: or any country for that matter. But now in order

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01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: to maintain that ability to dictate whether you can go

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Speaker 1: for a walk with your kids, whether you know, you

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01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: can go out to a park or get some fresh air,

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Speaker 1: or go for a job, or all these different things

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Speaker 1: that doctors will tell us individually, we can do. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: The doctors will say okay, But then the state will say, sorry,

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01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: some people violate it, shut it down. It's not It's

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Speaker 1: just it's just not gonna fly forever. And when I

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: say forever, it's not gonna fly for all that much longer.

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Speaker 1: And people can get very mad when they hear that

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Speaker 1: and thing and say, oh, well what about this, and oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're you're not taking they're not taking this

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Speaker 1: very seriously, very seriously. We're not shutting down our civilization

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Speaker 1: in America indefinitely for any reason, right, But everyone concedes that.

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Speaker 1: But then when you try to push them a little

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Speaker 1: bit for okay, what does that mean? There are some

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Speaker 1: forces in this country who they're getting this. They're getting

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Speaker 1: this taste of absolute power. Absolute power from the government.

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Speaker 1: They can tell you whatever. They can print money and

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Speaker 1: give it to whomever they want. They can tell you

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Speaker 1: to stay in your home, who gets to work, who doesn't,

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Speaker 1: Who gets you know, resources from the government, who doesn't anything?

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Speaker 1: Any liberty that you think you have they can take

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Speaker 1: away from you. There are people for whom that that

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Speaker 1: is very Those powers are very appealing, and they will

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01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: not easily or quickly hand them back unless we watch

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Speaker 1: them and hold them accountable for this. We have to

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Speaker 1: remember that, and I want to hear much more of

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Speaker 1: that side of this debate going forward, much more of

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Speaker 1: the Alright, we're making these concessions, but this is not

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Speaker 1: a blank check. Is the government, even in this crisis,

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Speaker 1: does not have a blank check, not just against the economy,

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: but a blank check against our liberties. They cannot just

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: draw on these things endlessly without us pushing back. You're

1239
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sex and

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Speaker 1: Show podcast. Okay, people, just because Jesus is on your

1241
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: side doesn't mean you can't get sick. Don't forget Jesus

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 1: was on Jesus's side and he died. Okay, yeah, he

1243
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: came back, but that was like a one time thing.

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01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: I think it's like Mario brothers lives. Maybe he's got

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: two left. And you know, it's funny how a lot

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: of these same people who say Jesus will protect them

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01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: from coronavirus are the same people stucking up on guns.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. Won't the blood of Jesus protect

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: you from an intruder? Nah, I'm going with Buckshot for

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: this one. He needs Jesus more than me. And look,

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Speaker 1: whether you want to believe in coronavirus or not, it

1252
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: is real. And today the United States passed the ten

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: thousand coronavirus deaths. He's not funny. That's Trevor Noah took

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Speaker 1: over for John John Stewart, who, while a propagandist, was

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01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: at least clever. Trevor Noah is not even clever. But

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Speaker 1: he's also telling you this is what the left thinks

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01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: about the rest of the country. This is what the

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: blue coastal elites, the urban elites across America really do

1259
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: think of everybody who does not fit into their their worldview,

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: which is that you know, there are a bunch of

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: Bible thumpers who they just all these these claims. They're stupid,

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Speaker 1: they're slanderous, and it it's important that we remember, unfortunately,

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01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: that there really isn't this coming together. That you see

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Speaker 1: all these journalists who are writing about how red states

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Speaker 1: are going to have far higher death rates because people

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: don't believe in this virus. That's idiocy. People of course

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01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: know this virus is real, just like when they said

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Speaker 1: Trump said it was a hoax, that was all alive.

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Speaker 1: But they don't care. And now we see the blue

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Speaker 1: states are getting hit by far the worst. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the bluest of blue places here in New York City,

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Speaker 1: and we're getting crushed by this virus. They don't change

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Speaker 1: any of their analysis about any of this, and they're

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Speaker 1: not able to overcome their stupid partisan nonsense. They're not

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Speaker 1: able to just put that aside and see us all

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Speaker 1: as people in a very difficult situation that need to

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Speaker 1: come together and help each other out. As Americans. We

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Speaker 1: keep being told that this is like a war, and

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Speaker 1: yet we've been invaded. We know who the enemy is,

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Speaker 1: and yet there are a lot there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of leftists who view the real enemy as anyone on

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Speaker 1: the right who who does not submit, does not obey,

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Speaker 1: does not say sorry, we were wrong about Trumbull all along,

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Speaker 1: and we'll do anything you say because you're the smart

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Speaker 1: ones who know what to do. Now. Really, I think

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Speaker 1: the evidence certainly goes in the other direction recently, but yes,

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01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: rooting for catastrophe against America for four years, which is

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Speaker 1: what the left has been doing. Finally we have had

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Speaker 1: a catastrophebe fall us. But they've been saying it's gonna

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Speaker 1: this is the twentieth thing that's come up that was

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Speaker 1: going to be, you know, war with North Korea, war

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Speaker 1: with Iran, and all stock market crash when Trump gets elected.

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Speaker 1: And now finally there's a catastrophe and they're acting like

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Speaker 1: they were this was foreseen by them. No, they just

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01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: were hoping for catastrophe, and now here is a catastrophe

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Speaker 1: and they're exploding it. Okay, thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Right,

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Speaker 1: I did my work and I spoke to Times up

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Speaker 1: and I just don't feel comfortable thrilling away a decent

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Speaker 1: man that I've known for fifteen years. Yeah, um, in

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Speaker 1: this in this time of complete chaos, without there being

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Speaker 1: a thorough investigation, sure that um mainstream media would be

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Speaker 1: jumping all over this um as well if if you know,

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Speaker 1: if they weren't in a pandemic, oh or if there

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Speaker 1: was more if there was more credible, if there was evidence,

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Speaker 1: it was if they found more evidence or through their investigation.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of staying quiet about it. What

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Speaker 1: a surprise, folks, that is a Lissa Milano who has

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Speaker 1: become a political She's really a third tier actress who's

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Speaker 1: become now a political activist. So we end up talking

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Speaker 1: about her in the realm of politics. And I did

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Speaker 1: have the misfortune of interviewing her ones and she didn't

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Speaker 1: realize who I was. So we sat down and I

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Speaker 1: started asking her questions that were that were real journalism questions.

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Speaker 1: She didn't have any good answers too, about guns, and

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Speaker 1: in her chihuahua tried to pee on my foot. Don't

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Speaker 1: worry to Lula. She was not nearly as civilized and

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Speaker 1: beautiful canine as you are. But the chihuahua did, like,

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Speaker 1: right during the interview, try to relieve itself on me.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. It was a it was a

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Speaker 1: decrepit little chihuahua. But and I like Chuaua to the

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Speaker 1: chiuaua and was out there Armada. I just this was

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Speaker 1: clearly a lib chihuahua. You know, this was a chihuahua

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Speaker 1: that had like a Bernie Sanders sticker on its food

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Speaker 1: bowl and was all about, you know, canine medicare for all.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I've had the misfortunate and she complained, which

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Speaker 1: I thought was the most hilarious and classless thing ever.

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Speaker 1: And even the liberals, this is when I worked at

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Speaker 1: the Hill, Even the liberals that were at the Hill,

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Speaker 1: of whom there are there are plenty, said that it

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Speaker 1: was an entirely They had the whole tape. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we aired basically all the interview. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: really even edited it, but they said it was an

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Speaker 1: entirely fair and respectful interview. She called to try to

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Speaker 1: get me in trouble. Her publicist called the Hill to

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Speaker 1: try to, you know, have some sanctions taken against me,

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Speaker 1: get me suspended or something. I didn't do anything here,

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Speaker 1: just ask her questions. She's a moron and a gross

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Speaker 1: person who is desperate for attention. So there you have it.

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Speaker 1: But she's also somebody completely lacking in principle as we

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Speaker 1: see here. Now, why is she well known now? She

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: is well known because she attached herself to the Me

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Speaker 1: Too movement, as far as I understand, never talked about

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Speaker 1: her own me too story. But she is somebody who

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: is prominently associated with me Too, makes a lot of

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: noise about it, has a big following, and was very

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Speaker 1: o and sat in the in the hearings against Kavanaugh,

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01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: you know, sat very prominently displayed behind him, made sure

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Speaker 1: that she was seen on camera there, you know, to

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Speaker 1: make sure that that Kavanaugh faced justice for what they

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Speaker 1: said he did, which he did nothing. Kavanaugh was innocent,

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Speaker 1: and if there's any if we have any belief in

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Speaker 1: evidence and rationality, Kavanaugh is not. It's not that Kavanaugh's

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Speaker 1: not guilty. Kavanaugh is innocent. I mean, I'm I'm as

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Speaker 1: sure of that as we can be based on anything

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Speaker 1: for which we only have evidence, you know, not a

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Speaker 1: not firsthand experience. Um So what was the listen Alana

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Speaker 1: talking about there? Though? Because you won't hear this, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think CBS or NBC or ABC, I don't

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Speaker 1: think any of them have touches. And I give my

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Speaker 1: colleagues at the at my former colleagues at the Hill,

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Speaker 1: Crystal Ball and Saga and Jetty, both of whom I'm

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Speaker 1: very fond of. I give them credit for trying to

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Speaker 1: raise this story and get some real attention for it.

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Speaker 1: Terror Reid worked for Senator Biden in the nineteen nineties

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Speaker 1: and she claims that he sexually assaulted her in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three. Based on the specifics of the allegation, there

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Speaker 1: was pardon me in if you have you know, kids listening,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you like a ten second here to either

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Speaker 1: turn the volume down for a second, but it's important

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Speaker 1: to to show you the degree of the allegation there

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Speaker 1: that there was forceful penetration that occurred, which depending on

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Speaker 1: the jurisdiction you're in, there's you know, that's either a

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Speaker 1: certain degree of sexual assault, but sometimes that will be

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Speaker 1: classified as rape. Even you know, this was essentially the

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Speaker 1: allegation is of digital penetration, and so that's a very

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Speaker 1: that's that's a very very serious crime. And she has

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Speaker 1: raised this on the record. She's given ay she worked

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Speaker 1: on Biden's staff, so we know that he knows who

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Speaker 1: she is. We know that they had contact as adults.

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Speaker 1: We know that they were probably in the office alone

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Speaker 1: together a whole bunch of times, or you know, in

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Speaker 1: offices near each other when there weren't other folks around.

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Speaker 1: And yet you don't hear this. ABC, at least as

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Speaker 1: of last week, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBCCNN haven't said a

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Speaker 1: single word about this. Now we were told during the

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Speaker 1: Kavana saga, which was the although it might be overtaken

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Speaker 1: by what we see coming up here with this fight

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Speaker 1: over Trump's roll, Trump's blood on his hands from this disease,

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01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, from handling this disease. The ugliest political thing

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen was the the the ritual humiliation of

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Speaker 1: lies and personal destruction that liberals put Kavanaugh through because

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Speaker 1: they're so desperate to maintain control of the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately, I think they realize that they need to

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Speaker 1: forestall as long as possible, a reckoning with Roe v. Wade,

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Speaker 1: because the Supreme Court unfortunately and wrongly gave them a

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Speaker 1: declaration that Roe was the law of the land, when

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Speaker 1: no honest person could ever think that that was really

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Speaker 1: the case. But they need to protect that because that

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Speaker 1: would that would be the erosion, the destruction really of

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Speaker 1: the liberal the supposed liberal moral high ground of caring

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Speaker 1: about people and caring about the downtrodden. They don't care

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Speaker 1: about the unborn very much, do they. I don't care

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Speaker 1: about babies in the womb. We know that all they

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Speaker 1: care about is that they can be eliminated for convenience sake.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it so interesting that they that some of the

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Speaker 1: most prominent voices against any balancing of risk dealing with

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Speaker 1: this pandemic are will come from the left and they say,

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Speaker 1: you know, we will defend every life with everything we have,

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Speaker 1: and how daring would think of the convenience of the

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Speaker 1: economy as any kind of counterbalance against this? And then

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Speaker 1: they'll turn around and say, we have a woman doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to have a baby, and she can kill the baby.

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Speaker 1: And then this is this is commonplace, This is standard

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Speaker 1: on the left. In fact, this is doctrine on the left.

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Speaker 1: They don't they don't hide from this, they don't avoid this.

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Speaker 1: This is the truth. So you know, babe murdering babies

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Speaker 1: by the millions, that's and that's an active process. That's

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Speaker 1: not someone accidentally is in the room with someone and

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Speaker 1: coughs and they don't know, and then they get that

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Speaker 1: person sick, and you know, that's that's life as it

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Speaker 1: has always been for human beings. For our species. People

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Speaker 1: get sick, right, We're just trying to keep too many

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Speaker 1: people from getting sick and too many people from having

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Speaker 1: this particular disease. But you know, abortion is a new

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Speaker 1: thing our species, and it's one that is an active

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Speaker 1: process of eliminating lives, of killing living human beings. So

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Speaker 1: they were willing to do anything to take down Kavanaughs.

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Speaker 1: We know, and you were hearing things that were true

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Speaker 1: and pure in when I say true, I mean they

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01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: were distilled propaganda, the most absolute kinds of propaganda. You

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Speaker 1: can imagine phrases that not only weren't true under the circumstances,

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Speaker 1: but then make no sense unless you're trying to brainwash people.

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Speaker 1: All women have a right to be believed. Women have

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Speaker 1: a right to be believed. This is what they were claiming.

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Speaker 1: This was only two years ago. Women have a right

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Speaker 1: to be believed. So does that mean that women don't lie,

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Speaker 1: Because we know that men and women do lie. Human

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Speaker 1: beings lie, They level false accusations, and this is just

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact. And you can sit around and

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Speaker 1: think to yourself of very prominent cases of women claiming

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Speaker 1: sexual assault when then finally the evidence came out they

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Speaker 1: were lying. The Duke Lacrosse case a prominent example, the

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Speaker 1: UVA fraternity to rape. I mean, these are national level

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Speaker 1: stories of women who lied about about being raped. So

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Speaker 1: now I know that there are far more cases of

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Speaker 1: rape that aren't reported. And I understand all the horrific

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Speaker 1: statistics about how common sexual assault is and all this,

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Speaker 1: but remember the standard they set women have a right

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Speaker 1: to be believed. It wasn't that women have a right

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Speaker 1: to have their case heard and should be taken seriously,

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Speaker 1: and anyone who has ever assaulted a woman should should

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Speaker 1: face the severest legal consequences possible. That's good, that's absolutely just.

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Speaker 1: That's the way we should be. That should be severely punished,

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Speaker 1: and we should seek justice for survivors. That was not

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Speaker 1: what they were saying though. That was not the claim.

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Speaker 1: The claim was women should be believed period. So if

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Speaker 1: a woman makes an allegation, it's true. And now I

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Speaker 1: always rejected that because I said, no, it's based we

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Speaker 1: have to through a legal proceeding. You have to base

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Speaker 1: this on evidence and people, we have a system in

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Speaker 1: place to adjudicate these things. They said, Oh, you're just

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Speaker 1: covering up for the sexual assaults of Kavanaugh. Oh and

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Speaker 1: in that case, we know beyond a reasonable doubt that

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Speaker 1: the third woman, Julie Sweatnick, who came out against Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: was a liar. Not that she was confused, she was

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Speaker 1: a liar. I mean, she was a deranged person. She

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Speaker 1: was lying. The second person who came forward was almost

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Speaker 1: certainly lying. And the first person I think was confused

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Speaker 1: and exaggerating because she was trying to save her ovweight.

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Speaker 1: And that's become pretty clear, right, So we not only

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Speaker 1: are do you have to can you look at other

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Speaker 1: cases to find out that there have been liss But okay,

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Speaker 1: the real issue here is that they were saying that

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Speaker 1: women have a right to be believed and now, and

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Speaker 1: and Alssa Milano was a was a big proponent of this.

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Speaker 1: Millions of Twitter followers run around on TV giving radio interviews. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have to believe women and believe women

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: and me too, and all this stuff, all all this,

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01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 1: and remember that they use real cases. And Ronan Farah

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01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: was a part of this. And I will never let

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01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: that I will never let that kid get away with this.

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01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: He did some good work, good work on Harvey Weinstein, right,

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01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: and how much of that was handed to him by

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Speaker 1: people that knew about this, and there's a whole other

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Speaker 1: you know that they wanted to take Weinstein down. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but he did good journalism, there's no question about it

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01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: on some of these cases. But then he used all

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Speaker 1: the clout that he had gathered together to go after

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01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh and wrote that absurd hit piece using Deborah Ramirez,

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Speaker 1: the second accuser against Kavanaugh, who yeah, she was so

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01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: traumatized by the thing that she thinks maybe happened, that

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: she wasn't sure if a thing even really happened, And

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01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: everybody who knew her was like, no, that didn't happen. Yeah,

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01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: that one. And they left out those journalistic malpractice there,

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01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: but they were They were taken in a whatever it

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01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: takes approach, Whatever it takes to destroy Kavanaugh was inherently acceptable.

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01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: Whatever it takes to ruin him, they were fine with.

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Speaker 1: Now it's Joe Biden. Joe Biden has been accused on

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01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: the record by a woman who worked for him in

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: the nineties of forcible penetration of rape, that is the accusation.

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01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: How is it possible that you have not seen this

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01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: getting covered by every major media outlet? Ah, because Elissa Milano,

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01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: she's given it all the way, hasn't she. Well know,

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01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: now we need more evidence, Now, we need to know

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: the full facts. Now, we need a presumption of innocence.

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: It's almost like if you were creating an experiment to

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01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: see how dishonest the left really was with their usage

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01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: of me too against Kavanaugh and how clearly politicized this becomes.

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01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: This is it, You're we're running the experiment right now.

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01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: Oh and they said that Trump, you know, Trump, you know,

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01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted women. And I kept hearing all these stories

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01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: and then I'd say, well, where what who who says

1515
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: that they were sexually assaulted by Trump? And then it's oh,

1516
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: well he grabbed me and kissed me at a party

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01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: or something. A long time agone I'm saying, Okay, will

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01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: is that can can you prove any of this? Or

1519
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: is this That's a very easy thing to throw out there.

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01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: And also the law makes distinctions. I know we're not

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01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: supposed to. You know, if they try to get you

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01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: on technicalities here and make it seem like you're a monster.

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01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: But the law does make distinctions between you know, grabbing

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: someone and kissing them is different from sexual penetration of

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01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: them in the in other parts of the body. The

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01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: law makes that distinction. So let's not pretend like that's

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01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: not a real thing, because this is where you get

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: the oh, you know, Trump says, you know that women

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: will just let you kiss them, lets you being a

1530
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: very important word there, let you grab them, lets you

1531
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: being a very important component in all this process. But

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01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: we heard all this, and if you didn't believe that Trump,

1533
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: who is a is a billionaire playboy and has been

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01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: for decades, if you didn't believe it's that for some

1535
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,959
Speaker 1: reason he was also a prey. He was a predator

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01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: instead of somebody who clearly likes the company of very

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01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: beautiful women and maybe a little too much, but you know,

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01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't judge. Now we're told that Joe Biden to this,

1539
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: and there's just silence on it, and there's all this backtracking,

1540
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: and we need evidence, and we need because it was

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01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: never it was always it was always a fraud what

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01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: they were doing to Kavanaugh. It was always a lie,

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01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: and they knew it, and they justified it in their

1544
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: heads and there was no principle involved. I look, I

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01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 1: give I think it's a Rose McGowan who was another

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01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: prominent and she was. She was somebody who has come

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01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: forward and talked about her own me too situation. Right yep,

1548
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: here it is. She tweeted at at Alissa Milano the

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01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: following her sister and the me too movement. If you will,

1550
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: this just came out this morning. Rose McGowan quote, you

1551
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: are a fraud. This is about holding the media accountable.

1552
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: You go after Trump and Kavanaugh saying believe victims. You

1553
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: are a lie. You have always been a lie. The

1554
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: corrupt DNC is a smear job of terror Reid. So

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01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: are you shame? Ah Well, Rose McGowan. It seems he

1556
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: is willing to assert principle. Rose McGowan is willing to

1557
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: hold people to the same standards. Good for her, but

1558
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: it's one of these moments where we should take a

1559
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: step back and just remember I was saying this to

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01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: you all along, that this would be weaponized not just

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01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: against Cavanaugh but against other people that believe all women

1562
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: was something they were only saying insofar as it was

1563
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: useful for destroying Republicans. I was right, you were right.

1564
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: They were wrong. They lied about this. The liberal media

1565
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: lied about how me too would be judged going forward.

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: They lied about the lack of politics and this. They're

1567
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of frauds and phonies, and they are disgraceful

1568
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: on this issue. Disgraceful. I'll listen Milano at the top

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01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: of the list. Ugh, I thinks she's such good friends

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01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: with Joe Biden. Oh my god, Gross, you're in the

1571
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Speaker 1: freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Every

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01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: day at seven o'clock, there's this round of applause and

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01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: cheers and shouts all across New York. I think they're

1574
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: doing in other cities perhaps too, but I know that

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01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: I can hear it every night in New York and

1576
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: it's it is comforting, it is encouraging, it's heartening. And

1577
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of praise out there on social

1578
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: media for people who are frontline logistics personnel, if you will.

1579
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, are our doctors and nurses there their frontline

1580
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 1: warriors against the virus. And we've got people who are

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01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,719
Speaker 1: delivering food, so you know, working in the stores, working

1582
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: at Walmart, working in grocery stores and pharmacies. You know,

1583
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: there there are logistics and supply chain for this war effort,

1584
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: and we need them and there's a renewed appreciation for them.

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01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: I'm concerned that I see here there are you know,

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01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: there are some issues and I've I've had people right

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01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: in about this too, with not letting grocery workers cover

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01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: their mouths, cover the you know, and wear gloves, take

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01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: those basic precautions. I can't imagine why any store, and

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01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: I really mean that, I can't think of why any

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01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: store wouldn't allow them to take those measures to protect themselves.

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01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: And now we're seeing that there are some grocery workers

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01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: who have died from coronavirus. There are concerns about how

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01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: much exposure these people are going through in this process.

1595
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Are they going to get paid sick leave if they

1596
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: continue to show up for work and they get sick

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01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: with this? Are they going to get raises in pay?

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01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: I think they should get a raise in pay. You know.

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01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in doing everything we can to show

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01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: our appreciation. I mean, one thing, you know, I order

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01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: in food, and unfortunately I'm probably gaining about a you know,

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01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: pound or two a week right now at least, But

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01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm ordering in food as I can and put some

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01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: money into into restaurants that are still delivering. And I'm

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01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: giving the biggest tips I've ever given to people who

1606
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: are delivering food because I want to help them out

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01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: and show a little appreciation. I know it's a small gesture,

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01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: and I'm not like, oh, look at me, Pami on

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01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: the back, who you know who gives a You know what.

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01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: We're all doing what we can as best as we can,

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01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: and we all have different ways of trying to help out.

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm just merely saying financial appreciation for those who are

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01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: doing this seems to be well merited, and I would

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01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: like to see better protective measures for those because if

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01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: we start having people that we start having grocery stores

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01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: that can't open their doors just because people won't work

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01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: the checkout lanes, we got big problems. Once the food

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01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: supply comes into question, then you then things to churate

1619
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: very or if not even food supply, access to food.

1620
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 1: Once people's access to food comes into question, then think

1621
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: it very scary, very quickly. So we got to do

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01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,799
Speaker 1: what is necessary here to make sure that the stores,

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01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: these stores stay open, and you know, there's an epidemiological

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01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 1: risk to going to these stores as well as working

1625
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: in them, and I don't think that, you know, no

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01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: one seems to have an answer for this, and I

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01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: think they're just saying, well, I guess we gotta keep

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01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: those open. Well, okay, if we're keeping those open, that

1629
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: might be a big risk. What about risks in other places?

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01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: We'll have to deal with that tomorrow. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: US has a whole lot of casualties in the last

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01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: twenty four hours from coronavirus, China has none. I don't

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01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 1: know what it's going to take for our media to

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01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: stop spreading CCP propaganda and really viewing themselves as the

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Speaker 1: propaganda arm of Beijing, even at the expense of the

1639
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Speaker 1: truth in this country while we're going through this. But

1640
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: it's very annoying our media just continues to cover itself

1641
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: in a lot of a lot of disgrace during all

1642
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Speaker 1: of this. I find it very very frustrating. So I'll

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01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: talk more about China and what's going on there tomorrow.

1644
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 1: I'll try to check in that's we're gonna have some

1645
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 1: recurring themes here, recurring storylines, and certainly China's not just

1646
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Speaker 1: roll in this, but propaganda efforts are going to be

1647
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Speaker 1: another another part of what we're dealing with and what

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Speaker 1: one moves a business to China because regulation and taxes

1686
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 1: are light in the US. We want made in the USA,

1687
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: but no one wants to cut regulation or taxes, and

1688
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: here we sit with this terrible virus while our stuff

1689
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: is being made in China. In the long run, I

1690
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: don't think Americans will pay twenty dollars for a pair

1691
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: of ankle socks and ten dollars for a pair of

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01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: tidy whities. Maybe they will for a year or two.

1693
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: But after we come out from under Corona lockdown, well, Paul,

1694
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna We're gonna see who's right here.

1695
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 1: I believe that there's a greater, greater willingness to spend

1696
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: on American things, especially if we are clear about why

1697
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: we're doing that, you know, made in America. I do

1698
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 1: think we'll become a roullying cry in this country again.

1699
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: And I think that because of the end of the

1700
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: Soviet Union in particular, we've seen okay, well, we're the

1701
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: dominant power and we can get stuff from wherever, and

1702
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,879
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter no China. China is trying to replace

1703
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: America as the global hedgemon. We know this, this is clear,

1704
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: this is obvious, and we need for national security as

1705
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 1: well as economic reasons to bring some of the production

1706
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: that has been off short and some of the the

1707
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: influences of globalization. We need to turn those around here,

1708
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 1: We need to turn those around. And I don't know,

1709
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: ten dollars for a pair of Tighty White's producer mark,

1710
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 1: Isn't that what Tidy White's cost. I do not personally

1711
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: wear those, but I think underpants in general, they're more

1712
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 1: expensive than you think. Yeah, good pair of boxers? Is

1713
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of pricey? Actually, you don't want to,

1714
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: like thirty dollars, Yeah, it's not that cheap. So I

1715
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: think people are, you know, twenty dollars for a pair

1716
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: of ankle socks. That may be a little high, but

1717
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big fan of these, uh of

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01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 1: the smart wool socks. Once they're expensive, I'm not gonna

1719
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: you're talking about twenty dollars socks that are expensive. But

1720
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm a boogie person. Yeah, no, no, accurate. Yeah, of

1721
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 1: course I think that the smart wool socks are a

1722
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: great investment for anybody who can or just get getting

1723
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: that kind of those synthetic fibers that keep your breathe

1724
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: better but keep your feet warmer and actually can keep

1725
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: them cooler too, depending on which kind of sock you get.

1726
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Socks are important. Two things that I find are a

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01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: real upgrade for yourself that you don't really often think about,

1728
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: but once you do them, you're like, wow, actually there

1729
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: are three of them ready for these producer Mark. These

1730
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: are people can do well. They're in quarantine. I think

1731
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: they'll be happy if they listen to me. That don't

1732
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: involve doing a one hundred push ups a day, which

1733
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: any day now I'm gonna start doing one hundred push

1734
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: up a day challenge. But any day now. Replace your towels,

1735
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: replace your socks, replace your pillow cases. These are things

1736
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: that people hold onto for far, far too long. These

1737
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: are all you'll get. You don't even think. You're like, oh,

1738
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: my towels are fine. Where my towels are fine? No, no no, no,

1739
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: get yourself some new towels, all right, Get yourself some

1740
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: new socks. Whatever socks you have, get new pairs of it.

1741
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: And also your pillow case. You don't realize how much

1742
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 1: oil and sweat and whatever. You know that those things

1743
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: over time, they just get a little, they get a

1744
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: little ratty, they get a little run down. What do

1745
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 1: you think producer Mark. Well, I've recently started using new

1746
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: lowcases and new towels since we moved. So see, aren't

1747
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 1: they nice? They are great our new towel. You put it,

1748
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: you have a new towel, you wipe your face. My

1749
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: wife registered like because we got them from the wedding

1750
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: or the shower or whatever. And these towels are like luxurious.

1751
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: It's like I'm in a five star resort and they're

1752
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: heavy there. That's what you want. No, investing in nice

1753
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: towels is a you know, it's a it's a really

1754
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: good move. And there's a lot of great, inexpensive towels

1755
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: on me. You go on you go on Amazon and

1756
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: you can find really good you can find really good towels.

1757
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 1: And if they're reviews, if there's enough high level customer,

1758
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 1: if there's enough positive customer reviews, you're in really good shape.

1759
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 1: But the difference between a new plush towel and like

1760
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: an old kind of little torn ratty towel that you

1761
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,600
Speaker 1: use is it's sort of like the difference between you know,

1762
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 1: really nice thick, cushy toilet paper versus using that like

1763
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: eco friendly sand paper on your bum which it's never

1764
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: worth it. It's never worth it. I've been using flushable wipes, Buck,

1765
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: game changer, I know you told me this. Yeah, I

1766
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,839
Speaker 1: finally got something like they were finally in stock on Amazon,

1767
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: so I bought more. They're betastic. Yeah, no, I've I've

1768
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: heard people are fans, so sorry. We talk personal hygiene

1769
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: here on the show, too the Ory. We do that,

1770
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: all right, Brandy, He's Brandy, writes Buck. I'm worried about

1771
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 1: the direction of this country that makes two of us. Brandy.

1772
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: It's one thing to shut down voluntarily in order to

1773
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: get a grip on such a contagious virus, But now

1774
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: this is starting to feel like George Orwell's nineteen eighty four,

1775
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: even down to the loudspeaker in the grocery store. Moreover,

1776
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 1: to see and read posts asking if the government offered

1777
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: to pay Americans to report people gathering in groups of

1778
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: more than ten, would they do it and for how much?

1779
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 1: Even scarier to see how many people said they would

1780
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: do it for free? And Brandy, I don't like America

1781
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 1: should not turn into a nation of tattle tales. You know,

1782
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 1: it's one thing if someone's doing something that's really reckless

1783
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: or putting people at risk, but I'm sorry. One guy

1784
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 1: in a playground with his young daughter on the slide.

1785
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: You know, that's not a social distancing violation that needs

1786
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: to be reported to the authorities. And you're seeing a

1787
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: lot more of this. People are reporting others, and I

1788
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: feel like some of it is also envy. You know,

1789
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: there's that you know, envy that someone else is enjoying

1790
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: themselves where someone else is getting some sun. There's that

1791
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 1: story of that old line that a puritan is someone

1792
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: who lives with the constant and I'm paraphrasing, but someone

1793
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: lives with the constant fear that someone somewhere is having

1794
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: a good time. There are this snitch attitude, and the

1795
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: govern mean the end of the governor. The mayor of

1796
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Carcetti has said now that they're gonna reward people.

1797
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna give you money, the City of Los Angeles,

1798
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: give you a reward for snitching on people who aren't

1799
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: doing enough social distancing. Look for the people that are

1800
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 1: still holding funerals here in New York with you know,

1801
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: four hundred people at them, all very close together. Yeah,

1802
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: that's a that's that's violating the spirit of what we're

1803
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 1: trying to do. Right now, um, so I understand why

1804
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: that's upset. But you know one person in one place

1805
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: who is maybe a little too close to a friend

1806
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 1: or a family member. You know, everyone needs everyone needs

1807
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: to just ease up a little bit on the on

1808
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 1: the hall monitor stuff. It's not necessary. And see here's

1809
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 1: Brandy saying exactly what I was talking before. This is

1810
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: turning into a very it is. It is truly orwellian.

1811
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you have speakers everywhere telling you social distance

1812
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 1: six feet apart. Repeat, social distance six feet apart. Okay,

1813
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot. There's gonna be a lot

1814
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: of a lot more of this. David hey Buck, I

1815
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: watched the Daily Press commerce. I think Trump does a

1816
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 1: great job softening up the media for his experts today

1817
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: especially he left the journalists looking completely dejected, and I

1818
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: think that's part of his strategy. Oh can we play

1819
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: a producer, Mark, Can we play the clip where he's

1820
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: yelling at Jonathan Carl Government, Oh you didn't tell me that. Oh,

1821
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: I say, you didn't tell me that, John this year,

1822
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: he didn't tell me that. I did serve it the

1823
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: previous admitted you mean the Obama administration. Thank you for

1824
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 1: telling me that you see, there's a typical fake news deal.

1825
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: When she was applayd I told you when she was

1826
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: appointed a third your race reporter. And what you just

1827
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: said is a disgrace. Okay, you asked me, said, sir,

1828
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: just got appointed. Take a look at what you said. Now,

1829
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: I said, when did they When did this person? How

1830
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: long in government? Well, it was appointed in the Obama administration.

1831
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, John, thank you very much. You

1832
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: will never make it go ahead. Trump slaps down the

1833
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 1: media sometimes sometimes the media is asking for it. He's

1834
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: also look, the guy's tired. He's in a bad mood.

1835
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: He's trying to keep the country from falling apart. He's

1836
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 1: looking at you know, really tough numbers and the death

1837
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: poll every day, and this is this is challenging stuff.

1838
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, Trump's gonna lose his cool sometimes a little bit.

1839
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna tell people what he really thinks. I think

1840
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: that's what we signed up for when we voted for

1841
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: this guy. So I I that's not surprised me and

1842
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. But you know,

1843
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: some people they get all they get also upset. David writes,

1844
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: I would also like to see you improduce your Mark,

1845
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 1: set up a mock press conference where you play sound

1846
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 1: bites of the stupid questions these journalists ask and reply

1847
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: with your Hillary impersonation. We are so fortunate she's not

1848
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 1: in office right now. It's something people aren't mentioning. Keep

1849
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: up the great work, David. Thank you. I like the idea.

1850
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 1: These days, we're pretty stacked with work and things we

1851
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 1: gotta do, so I can't say that it's it's very

1852
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 1: likely that we're going to be doing a lot of

1853
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,719
Speaker 1: new segments that require a lot of new new work.

1854
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: But thank you for the idea. Maybe we'll get to

1855
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: it at some point in the future. I don't know,

1856
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: Proucer Mark, you can always tell people, Yeah, sure, give

1857
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: me more work, guys. I love that. We'll leave that

1858
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: to you. Oh yeah, I love extra work. I don't

1859
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 1: have enough of it, you know. Yeah, I really need

1860
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 1: things to do. So there you go. Everybody. He likes

1861
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: his fourteen hour workday, work day, Producer Mark, just be like,

1862
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 1: what about the other ten hours? Producer Marks, you should ask,

1863
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: I wish you would do some more podcasts, Yeah, just

1864
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: so I had more work to do. There we go.

1865
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: He's told you folks right into improducer Mark. He's asking

1866
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 1: for it. You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the

1867
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, Roll Call continues with

1868
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,879
Speaker 1: Dale Buck. I know you're going through some troublesome times.

1869
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 1: We all are, but I know that in New York

1870
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 1: City things are certainly more dire. The frustration in your

1871
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 1: voice is evident. I look forward to be able to

1872
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 1: get back to some sense of normalcy soon, if possible.

1873
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,839
Speaker 1: I still listen every day for your common sense insights

1874
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: as we navigate these uncharted waters. I also am praying

1875
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: for you every day, for your family, for producer Mark,

1876
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 1: all the people of NYC, and all the people of

1877
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: this nation in the world. It pains me to no

1878
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 1: end to see these shots of empty streets in New

1879
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: York City, a city I fell in love with and

1880
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 1: no small part due to your guidance our first trip

1881
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: there two years ago. Wow. Thank you so much. Dale.

1882
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: Through all of this, I'm incur We're Americans, and there's

1883
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: something inherent about being an American that makes us resilient

1884
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 1: and steadfast, and even in this divisive time, I know

1885
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind will all come through

1886
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: this stronger and more determined than before. Thank you for

1887
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: what you do. Be encouraged, Shield's Eye whole Dale. That's

1888
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: really helpful, and I'm glad. Yeah, I've a lot of

1889
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: people have written me in the past at their first

1890
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: time visitors in New York. People on Team Buck will say, hey,

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Speaker 1: can you give me a list of stuff to stuff

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Speaker 1: to see in places to go eating. I'm always happy

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Speaker 1: to do it, you know, I send him a note

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Speaker 1: if I mean, I do what I can. So I'm

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Speaker 1: really I'm really happy to hear that someone really benefited

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Speaker 1: from my New York City visiting advice. And yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: going through a tough time here. I always remember, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the person's listening. But it was years ago,

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Speaker 1: maybe now, it was five or six years ago that

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Speaker 1: I was on a first date and I was with

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Speaker 1: a very a young woman who was a She was

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Speaker 1: a former I think she she had formerly worked at

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Speaker 1: a top investment bank and was now at a some

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Speaker 1: hot shot, some hotshot tech startup and had been a

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Speaker 1: runway model. So yeah, and I was on the street

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Speaker 1: with her, and it was not that it was during

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Speaker 1: the day. Actually, we had a lunch date for a

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Speaker 1: first date, which I think is can work out. But

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Speaker 1: it's like and someone and I just she was talking

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Speaker 1: about how amazing she was the whole time, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh god, I don't think this is gonna work.

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Speaker 1: And someone from Team Buck, a husband and wife who

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Speaker 1: were visiting New York, just happened to walk past and

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Speaker 1: they made a big deal and they gave me big

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Speaker 1: hogs Buck and it was I gotta say, that was great.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could have the team pair drop in

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Speaker 1: anytime like that when I need them. You know, that

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Speaker 1: was amazing. That was the one that was the one

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Speaker 1: time I can remember New York that really worked out

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Speaker 1: in my favor like that. That was fun. So thank

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Speaker 1: you Team. Unfortunately that was the only date that went

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Speaker 1: on with this particular person, but nonetheless it made it

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Speaker 1: more fun that I got to be like, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The team is everywhere, even here in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Hey Buck. Want a preview of how Biden would

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Speaker 1: handle this pandemic. Take a look at how the Washington

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Speaker 1: governor has handled this, and I'm a down by two.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with what he was trying to do,

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Speaker 1: but his snap unconstitutional execution has been terrible. We'll be

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Speaker 1: working with the polls. Thus this aim regardless shields high.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, isn't and Wisconsin is they're having people

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Speaker 1: vote today. No one's even really they got a primary going, right,

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Speaker 1: isn't that going on todaymore? Yes, I believe it is

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Speaker 1: an in person primary today. Yes, yeah, in person primary.

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Speaker 1: They want people to go out and vote. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you this. If I'm being told that I don't

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Speaker 1: get to go get like fresh steak and milk and

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Speaker 1: stuff that I need, or if I only once a week,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going out to vote, not for

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Speaker 1: not for a primary. I mean, what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: what are gonna do? What are you gonna cast your

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Speaker 1: vote for? Right now? It's gonna be Biden? All right,

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Speaker 1: go you know Democrats? Go vote, fine, do your thing,

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Speaker 1: will Right. The freight market has officially collapsed. I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: rates as low as fifty cents per mile for full loads.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't even cover fuel and repairs. Truckers are starting

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Speaker 1: to park their rigs, and good for them. Those that

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Speaker 1: carry this freight will be out of business in two weeks. Will.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard that yet. But if you're a trucker

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Speaker 1: and you're telling me that's going on. That's very very concerning. Look,

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Speaker 1: the economic consequences of the shutdown aren't something you feel

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Speaker 1: as much right away. It grows and gets worse with

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Speaker 1: every passing day. Right, we need to remember that. Right

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Speaker 1: people say, oh, the shutdown is not that bad for

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Speaker 1: the economy. Really, it's gonna get worse every day. Every

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Speaker 1: day it gets worse. More people can't pay their bills,

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Speaker 1: more people out of work, more people out of jobs,

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Speaker 1: more stress on the overall economy. So I wish I

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Speaker 1: had something happy or to share at this point on that,

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk more about where the economic indicators are tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Also talking more about China. Team, Please pass the buck.

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Speaker 1: Tell people to check out this show if they haven't before.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're in a lot of electronic communication with

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Speaker 1: folks you're not seeing them face to face as much.

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Speaker 1: Send them a link to the show. Really help us out,

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Speaker 1: continue to help the show grow. I'll be back here

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Speaker 1: tomorrow from the Freedom Hunt in NYC. Shield Tie