WEBVTT - Episode 263 w/ Peter Rosenberg 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.720 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:19.560 and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.080 He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.680 boy in or He's a Miami hippoper pioneer. Up is 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.280 d J e f N. Together they drink it up 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.760 with some of the biggest players in the most professional 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:38.199 unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk drink 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:43.240 motherfuck is New year Z. That's time for Drink Champs. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:52.320 Trink up, motherfuck, motherfuck? What did good for you? Hold these? 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.400 It's your boy and what up is d J E 0:00:55.520 --> 0:01:01.840 f and his Drink Chess motherfucker yap Yalla makes a look. Now, 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.720 this guy is when you talk about a person who 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.480 got in the game, belongs in the game, and stays 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.480 in the game. He started out, I want to say, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.360 as an Internet troll, that's what they say when you 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:21.800 google when you kind of kinda kinda Then he started 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.160 doing like weird Vaden Weeko, like making songs over his name. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:35.479 He s doing songs over then then then he then 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.040 he somehow got on Hot ninety seven. Then from there 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.080 he's got on the most powerful show on Hot ninety 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.440 seven and he still controls the show on Hot ninety 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.400 seven Corps still late. What's he dropped the album? Which 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.640 is the most I felt broke immediately listening to the 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.960 album really really made you feel like something about listening 0:01:54.960 --> 0:02:00.680 to the album, Yes, this guy, this guy represents real, 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.000 real hip hop. Later on, not only has he had 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.400 the hip hop, but then he went on to w 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.400 W E. I know he got WrestleMania belt in his 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.120 pocket right now. Lost it? No, I lost the title, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:19.160 but I had. That's not hard. Not only does it 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.320 get w W E checks, he also gets ESP and 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.919 Walt Disney checks. That's the reason why he's a smoker. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:30.920 He's not gonna smoke today, is watch. Not only that, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:36.840 we have to thank him because at the beginning we 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:43.160 thought the word podcast was just means nerd. It did 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.760 and if it wasn't for you on your half safe 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.720 of sounds me and if and probably would be sitting 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.040 here right now today. So we want to thank you 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.280 tell your face because you are indeed the pod fall. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.120 I I appreciate that very much. So me and you 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.359 are friends. Were we were great, but a lot of 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.800 people don't know how you started was you remaking records over. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.320 So I had been in radio for a long time 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.760 and I was fired from radio many times. And on 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.000 one of these occasions that I got fired from radio, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.400 I started doing a podcast, which was even this is 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.160 years before one app so podcasts were nothing, I mean 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.080 being basically I mean just after kind of. And then 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.520 I started making some YouTube videos and I made some 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:39.600 silly ass parodies and right around that time, so you 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:44.840 were weird. That was I did I did. I did 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:52.040 a cover of Jim Jones balling, called bowling bowling terrible 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.080 but but kind of good in a terrible way. And 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.800 then I did one about Duke basketball that got really big, 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.440 like that ship really hit. I dropped it the week 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.120 the torn It was one of those rare times in 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.240 life where you come up with a plane from d C. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.200 But isn't a duke from NC, correct, So I thought 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.280 it was from I went to Maryland and we fucking 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.880 hated Duke at the time. That rivalry was crazy. So 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.000 I made this video. We dropped it the day the 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.320 tournament started, so I sent it out to everyone, and 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.480 everyone when they sent there like you know, they're betting 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:25.080 pool emails. Everyone who hates Duke, which is everyone who 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.200 didn't go to Duke all forwarded this ship around and 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.640 it ended up getting a million views, which in those 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:35.160 days today it would be like getting a hundred. Yeah, 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.560 it was fucking gigantic. So then I get a phone 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.880 call for someone and he's like, yo, um uh, this dude, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.719 Ebro wants to talk to you. He's seen your videos. Okay, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.799 Now Ebro is the PD at the time or empty 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.720 he's m D and then Days the director for people 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:56.920 who don't know he was next to the Days. Later, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.080 I read in one of the trades Ebro Darden named 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.880 program director. So I'm like, oh, ship, the guy who 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.440 wants to talk to me just got named boss. So 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.640 ebro Um invites me up to eighty seven. Now keep 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.000 in mind years earlier I had forced my way up 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.360 top eighty seven to go meet the old p D, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.400 John Dimmick. Okay, that's before Tracy, after Tracy, before Ebro 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:21.640 and I got up there and I was I was like, 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.080 I want to be on the station so bad. He 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.599 was like, oh, that's great, you know, but you have 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:28.360 no experience and you know, keep working and good luck, Ebro. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.680 I go see Ebro and he's like, yo, I want 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.640 you to, um, come up and try to produce. We 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.760 wanna we want a new producer for Miss Jones show. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.600 And this is Miss Jones an afternoon or Misses in 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.520 the morning, okay, And he's like, we want you to 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.159 do Miss Jones show. And we see that you know 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.240 how to use the internet and that's new and we 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.520 want to, you know, see what you can do. So 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.040 I come up there, I go to do Miss Jones show. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.880 And she doesn't like you. That is the kindest way 0:05:54.880 --> 0:06:01.560 of putting. She did not funk with me at all. Um. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.080 I got up there and Envy was with her, and 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.200 thank god for Envy, who was like, yo, bro accommodating 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.800 welcoming Miss Jones. He was like, you probably shouldn't even 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.080 be in the studio when she gets here. I spent 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.719 two days sitting in a studio next to the studio. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.240 She just didn't vite with you. It was she she thought. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.520 She came up to me and she was like afterwards, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.039 she was like, what are you like some sort of 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:30.320 sucking spy for Ebro. By the way, in retrospect, she 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.840 was probably right, right. I mean, you guys bringing me 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.200 into maybe be a producer or whatever, and I didn't 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.800 know how to produce anyway. So a couple of days later, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.240 I'm home and Ebro calls me, and I remember I 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.240 was standing, he's a guy back. Good news and bad news. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.000 Bad news is the Miss Jones thing is not gonna happen. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.800 I was like, I really didn't think that would work 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.080 out anyway. The good news is I want to have 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.520 you do a Sunday Night show where you play like 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.200 you know, you're like underground hip hop. And I was like, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.680 that was the greatest phone call in my life. That 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.960 would if it if it had only been the Sunday 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.360 Night Show. I was good how ninety seven cracking and 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.800 Mike was my I grew up on just wanting to 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.680 be flex. So when he was like, I'm gonna give 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.360 you a Sunday Night show, was like I picked the music. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.640 He was like, yeah, you picked the music. We'll do 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.120 some video stuff. You can make some video content for us, 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.200 and uh. And that was it, because that's what's interesting 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.520 about the album When when I hear it, it's like, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.840 you know, we have Fat Joe on here recently, and 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.720 Fat Joe said, you know, every producer, every radio personality, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.800 everyone has the same access to the same people. Right. 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.000 So it's a particular way how comic makes his music. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.960 I feel like I was a particular way how you 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:40.360 made this album was you went and you put Hot 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.600 Night seven to the side, and you said, forget how 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.720 Tony seven, I'm gonna do with real late represents, and 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.760 I'm gonna do But what what makes you say, because 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.880 why why wouldn't you like, at the end of the day, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.560 anybody would give you a verse, right, because because they 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.800 want to be on on on a brow in the morning. Right. Okay, 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.520 so for for most part, let's just say for the 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.760 most part, but what makes you say to yourself, you 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.480 know what, I'm gonna go back to hip hop and 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.520 I'm gonna do it the way I feel it fit. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:11.560 What makes you do that? I just don't know. I 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.160 just I've made I had tried to make some commercial 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.320 records a couple of years ago. I actually have one 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.200 in the stats. That's crazy that I love. I'm sitting 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.120 on it right now. So vibes Cartel French Montana record. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.240 It's fucking awesome. It's produced by Harry Fraud. It's to me, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.320 it's a fucking Eastern Parkway, you know, later that weekend 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:36.800 a lot of coconut oil. But it was just like 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:38.840 to me, I was like this would come out of 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.880 nowhere to people, you know, if I just dropped a 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.920 commercial record. And and then also honestly, it's about do 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.880 you want to chase people or do you want to 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.880 get people want to be on your ship. So about 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.480 a year and a half ago, two years ago, I 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.960 started listening to my boy, this dude named top Shelf Premium. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.520 That's his his Instagram account. He's a vintage closed dealer 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.719 in New York. He always has artists come to a 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.880 store freestyle, and he started sending me music from my show. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.360 And so I started getting up on all these new cats. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.440 Right around the time Griselle just scorching, etcetera. And so 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.880 I was like, Yo, instead it chasing other people, let 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.680 me go back to what I did putting people on. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:15.520 You know what I'm saying, like people who when they 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.120 hear the record on the radio still get excited like 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.839 it means something to them. So when I started working 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.440 with these artists a little while later, like yeah, I 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.719 could get all these guys on the record, and then 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.719 I can go get the legends who I funk with 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.280 who will give me some verses and I can bring 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.319 all of the ship together. He's got gholst Face, got 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.520 great Kwan, got Jim Jones, Yeah, met the Man Style 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.640 and then Fleelord Rock Marcy. So I was like, I 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.360 can put them all together on one project and it 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.720 will be organic. It'll be me, am I gonna make 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.719 a million dollars. No, no, you're not gonna make a 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:49.840 million do I'm not gonna make But I immediately listen 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.520 and immediately went back to sorry to compare you, But 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.200 it really went back to stressing. Oh yeah, sure, I 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.839 overlooked everything else and I went back. One thing I 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.240 love about the college album's college albums. Some people hate this. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.280 I love it. I personally love it because I feel 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:05.760 like he put a bunch of hits together and and 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:10.079 it and it resonates right. So it reminds me of 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.560 an old king. Pret was my favorite back then getting 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.000 to kicking pre tape. The thing you think about your 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.520 album is the exact opposite. By the way, That's kind 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.800 of what I hope people say. Okay, and I love 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:25.800 Kalin like I respect Kalin, I love him personally. I 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.160 don't want people to think it's like a Kalid album, 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.199 you know, like it's for me. I wasn't about scoring 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.800 the biggest names. It was like the thing I'm most 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.800 proud of. It's a cohesive hip hop album. It's not 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.240 some fucking soundtrack where each song sounds different. You would 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.480 think all these cats work together and we're in a 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.560 zone together. They weren't like, it's a great, it's a great, 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.480 it's a great, it's a great. Um synergy. When it 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.400 comes to the Beach, I can tell you personally picked 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.600 the beast at my correctness is a perfect Like that's 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.480 the word to use. And I think there's something to 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.920 say that that's what Kalid does, That's how he makes 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.480 his living. He those those gotta be hits gotta be 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.040 I'm saying, I'm assuming that you're like, this album is 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.199 not gonna make you or break you. This is a PASSI. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.200 I's been in his house and out on East Side 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.600 West Side, by the way, my apartment now is way 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.000 better than Okay, no likely, I'm not rich in hip 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:21.880 hop terms, but I'm good enough that I don't have 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.480 to worry about it. And it's to me. It's all, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.079 It's all bus I said. I just hope one day 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.520 people come up to me and they're like, Yo, that 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.000 fucking real late album you dropped. That ship was fucking 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.520 fire and there are people on it, you know, Like 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.040 rock Marcy right now is a legend, and a lot 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.199 of people don't know that Rock Marcy is occupying the 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.960 space that cats like Dila and Doom, the space they 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.599 were in. That's who rock Marcy is right now. And 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.480 I have him on the project with Fleet Lord, and 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.839 Rocky is producing as well. He does, but he's not 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.400 on this. Okay, Yeah, I got him my boy Disco Vietnam. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.480 I got my boy who's a forty year old Jewish 0:11:55.480 --> 0:12:00.240 man living on Long Island, Jewish the first time to 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:05.880 make no right time. Yeah, yeah, that's right. I remember 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.000 Glamy too. I don't know if you know. So you 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.840 can feel comfortable. You don't say what I'm saying. I'll 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.040 do it to pick up the arrogantick up the gag. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:19.840 God damn it. But okay, voting around boom. Now there 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.160 comes the time in Summer Jam history when you fuck 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:24.720 Summer Jam up. Let's just s throw it out there. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.520 It's a time for me to pop U bottles. We 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.360 want you one, you want me to come. Let me 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.280 hear it ghost first and now okay, literally a bunch 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.880 of people. Yeah yeah, pop spade. You know you gotta 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:37.640 prove listen. I didn't. I didn't. You gotta prove listen, listen. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.320 I didn't think you can get a lot of arts 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.880 don't get approved. Maybe more they don't, just table. So 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.679 I had to make a phone call. You know what 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.920 I'm saying. So which one you want to go to? 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.760 The gold? Okay? But you know that this is more expensive. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.839 This is the road. Okay, Yeah, it's gonna take this 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.040 because I don't want him to feel jerks like when 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.720 people see him, like why did he pick the gold? 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.599 He didn't know the pile. So I want so you 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:06.199 still want to to pick? I only drink that one, okay, Okay, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:12.960 So so summer jams, summer jam. So you sunk this up. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.040 This is what was in my opinion, because in my opinion, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.199 this is just my hunting opinion. I can see you, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.199 my friend, So I want to told you this off 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.680 the side. What it was wasn't the timing. It wasn't 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.599 what you said. No, it was the timing of what 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.640 you said in place and how you said and the 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:36.800 fact is this is your headline, correct, this is a yes. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.679 This is a female who automatically, I don't want to 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.840 say just sensitive because he's a female. But in this situation, 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:47.079 you know, she's a queen of New York. This is 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.200 the New York number one station and you get along. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.480 What was it? Was it the afternoon? No, that was 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.400 the festival stage, So it was Kendrick was about to 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.040 come out on the festivals. You picked up Kendrick. So 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.600 as part of my way of hype being the crowd 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.480 for Kendrick. You know, I'm a wrestling fan. It's all about, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.319 it's all about, it's about what it's in wrestling. We 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:07.719 call it cheap heat, which, by the way, is the 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.040 name of my podcast, Subscribe Everywhere. Cheap Heat me and 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:16.240 sheep cheap like heat pets to say, you bring it 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:21.920 back to pets, let's go. So cheap heat means in wrestling, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.440 if you want to get the crowd hot at you, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.800 that's called heat, right, So bad guys want to get heat. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.600 The cheapest way to get heat is to get out 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.600 in the crowd and say, the bad guy comes out 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.760 in Miami and goes, I can't stand Miami. I'm from 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.160 New York whatever. And if you want a cheap pop, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:38.800 the way you come out is you're like, it's so 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.120 great to be here in Miami. These are cheap, cheap 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.120 and cheap pops. I was doing both. I was really 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.920 going for a cheap pop because I know that the 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.680 crowd that's there to see Kendrick. When I say fuck Starships, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.440 I know the crowd is gonna cheer for that. So 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.080 it's for you right now. Thank you for your bottles. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.440 By the way, I don't think we got heat in 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.960 hip hop. I'm sure. I don't think we do well, 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.400 maybe not, You're right, I mean it ends up being expensive. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.880 I'm sure. Okay, So I tried to pop the crowd 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.000 by saying, now, listen, the truth is I had already 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.800 been on the radio dissing Starships at that point for months, right, 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.640 And you gotta realize us as artist, right when we 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.560 have a relationship with you guys, when you just the record, 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.400 we don't. We don't feel like you're dissing the record, 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.280 but like dissing us. And I had no relationship with 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.080 personal well, so it's even worse in some ways because 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.600 I had at that time, I didn't know Nikki at 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.640 all but Abril Nick and yeah, but remember your guilty 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.200 black associated Well then, but remember Nicki's not even really 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:39.640 in New York that much of that time, right, She's 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.960 moving around, she's blowing up, she's still queen, and she's 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:47.040 hearing it from people though that's what people go. So 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.240 I make a joke, right like I used to make. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:50.880 I used to tease Nick, you know if you sip that? 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:58.720 But hm, so Nikki at that time, you know what 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.200 she would do like sort of her voice that she 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.360 would go into I got Monster Cipher and I when 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.000 we do the show, we would sort of like tease that, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.960 but not like we were shipping on it. We would, 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.640 but it really wasn't shipping on it, like we thought 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.400 she was dope. But when her friend, when people hear it, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.960 and I'm like, yo, the fucking Safari came up to 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.800 people are telling her people talk ship So she already 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.800 wasn't working with us. And then I did Starships and 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.680 I'm like, what is this record? Blah blah blah and 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.720 twelve so people wasn't going live, so this is this 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.480 this So this is not like she could have went 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.360 and look at someone's Instagram. So people aren't going live. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.680 Oh they're hearing it's still weird. Unless it was a 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.480 clip we put up. She she wasn't gonna hear it. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.200 So and I didn't like Starships, and I stand by that. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.160 I think history kind of proved me right on. I mean, 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:44.760 even though she made a bowload of money on it, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.040 did really well, it wasn't It wasn't a record that 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.000 I liked. Now I admit I did not at the 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.360 time think of sort of the implications, you know, me 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.480 being a man, being a white man who she doesn't know. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.880 It wasn't even all that established yet shipping on you know, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.280 her record. I now realized sort of the privilege that 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.240 was built into that. But at the time I'm just 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.680 reping for it. To me, it's hip hop all day. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.800 And while I'm regretful about some of those situations, let's 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.359 be honest. If I wasn't the kind of person who 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.560 said ship like that, I wouldn't ever be here right now. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.280 If you don't have enough swagger and stupid, ill advised 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.800 confidence to talk shit, you're not interesting. And I had 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.480 to show listen all the rappers who wanted to funk 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.840 me up in the first few years most of which 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:39.160 I'm close with now President Company included it. It all 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.399 came from a place of like, I just had stupid 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.359 confidence that I deserve to be here and should have 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.159 the conversation. In retrospect, I could see how now that 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.560 would be considered problematic, but at the time I was 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.119 just a guy who's like I trying to get on. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.800 I've studied the game and I'm gonna give my opinions, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.440 and that's what Ebro wanted me to do. So I 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.040 was just doing what I thought I was supposed to do. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.760 But let's just be clear, alright, cool, let's take a 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.520 way to fact that she's a girl. That's a good 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.479 way of the fact that, um, she's a queen. Y right, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.240 that's a good way to fact for that right now. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.160 Just the fact that it was the headline, Yes, that's 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.960 a stupid part. And it was streaming on her website. 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.800 Oh wait a minute, what so she was streaming like 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:21.760 because website. At the next thing, I know, the next 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.520 thing I know, I'm on the side of the stage. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.280 It comes up to me where shows about to start. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.159 Heroes like you do you say something about Nikki on 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.080 the festival stage and I swear to god. I was like, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.479 I didn't remember. I was like, oh, yeah I did. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.600 I did. I talked about starships. He was like, yeah, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.080 she pulled out of the show. And I was like, 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:41.560 the next second I go on my phone, I opened 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:46.159 up Twitter. I just see trending Peter Rosenberg. I was like, well, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.359 this is not good. Um, she's not doing the show. 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:51.760 And so the first thing I'm worried about, naturally is 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.520 my job. You know, I've only been there a few 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.760 years at that point, and I'm like, I just cost 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.040 us NICKI Minaj at summer Jam. That was fucking stupid. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.960 And You're right, the time in place was ridiculous, and 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.439 I just wasn't being thoughtful. It was just fucking stupid. 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.720 Had rectified that situation, had to apologize, right, didn't there 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.680 or that was no one? No one even considered that, 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.000 you know, and this is where hot you know listen, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.960 Ebro and Flex both neither has a small ego either. 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.800 So while while I'm sure they might have been upset 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.760 with me on some level, though neither ever said they 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.560 were upset with me, they both just went the other way. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.280 It's like it's like the brothers in Blue Leg They said, well, 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:44.760 it was like the that's anyways, you know, I think 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.520 they went with like, oh they're pulling out that we're 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.280 hot ninety seven. No one's pulling out on our ship. 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.879 It's summers GM. So they took that approach of defending me, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.560 and then of course they got messy because all young 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.920 Money pulled out. You know, Buster was not happy with me. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.399 You know who I do have a great relationship with, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.639 and he was not happy. That was one of the 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.280 many times I've busted was on cash Money at the time. Okay, 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:12.160 and guess who else was Kalid? So you know, people 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.879 weren't happy, but um, at the same time, everyone was 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.600 cool in the long run. You know, it took some 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.479 time with Nicky to smooth things over because you did 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.359 eventually apologize to correct I did, and she did. I 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.040 watched the video again recently. She definitely son the living 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.439 ship out of the situation. A year later, before summer, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.480 jam Ebro sets up this whole thing for me to 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:32.760 go come face to face with her. First of all, 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.320 Ibro had to be there, which is I don't know 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:36.960 if she was doing a little bit, Nicky might have 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.840 suck you up. I'm just doing it up, you know. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.960 What it probably help. So I went to put my 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.400 money and I just sat there one on one with her, 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.160 and she just sort of, well, you intimidated. Nicky seems 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:52.520 a little intimidated. She is, Nikki is super intimidated. And 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.720 in that moment, I was, I was shook, and I 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.000 took my lumps and said, I'm sorry, and she said, 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.280 you're not smart, You're not funny, You're this, you're that, 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.440