Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast.
Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your
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Speaker 1: motherfuck is New year Z. That's time for Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: Trink up, motherfuck, motherfuck? What did good for you? Hold these?
Speaker 1: It's your boy and what up is d J E
Speaker 1: f and his Drink Chess motherfucker yap Yalla makes a look. Now,
Speaker 1: this guy is when you talk about a person who
Speaker 1: got in the game, belongs in the game, and stays
Speaker 1: in the game. He started out, I want to say,
Speaker 1: as an Internet troll, that's what they say when you
Speaker 1: google when you kind of kinda kinda Then he started
Speaker 1: doing like weird Vaden Weeko, like making songs over his name.
Speaker 1: He s doing songs over then then then he then
Speaker 1: he somehow got on Hot ninety seven. Then from there
Speaker 1: he's got on the most powerful show on Hot ninety
Speaker 1: seven and he still controls the show on Hot ninety
Speaker 1: seven Corps still late. What's he dropped the album? Which
Speaker 1: is the most I felt broke immediately listening to the
Speaker 1: album really really made you feel like something about listening
Speaker 1: to the album, Yes, this guy, this guy represents real,
Speaker 1: real hip hop. Later on, not only has he had
Speaker 1: the hip hop, but then he went on to w
Speaker 1: W E. I know he got WrestleMania belt in his
Speaker 1: pocket right now. Lost it? No, I lost the title,
Speaker 1: but I had. That's not hard. Not only does it
Speaker 1: get w W E checks, he also gets ESP and
Speaker 1: Walt Disney checks. That's the reason why he's a smoker.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna smoke today, is watch. Not only that,
Speaker 1: we have to thank him because at the beginning we
Speaker 1: thought the word podcast was just means nerd. It did
Speaker 1: and if it wasn't for you on your half safe
Speaker 1: of sounds me and if and probably would be sitting
Speaker 1: here right now today. So we want to thank you
Speaker 1: tell your face because you are indeed the pod fall.
Speaker 1: I I appreciate that very much. So me and you
Speaker 1: are friends. Were we were great, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know how you started was you remaking records over.
Speaker 1: So I had been in radio for a long time
Speaker 1: and I was fired from radio many times. And on
Speaker 1: one of these occasions that I got fired from radio,
Speaker 1: I started doing a podcast, which was even this is
Speaker 1: years before one app so podcasts were nothing, I mean
Speaker 1: being basically I mean just after kind of. And then
Speaker 1: I started making some YouTube videos and I made some
Speaker 1: silly ass parodies and right around that time, so you
Speaker 1: were weird. That was I did I did. I did
Speaker 1: a cover of Jim Jones balling, called bowling bowling terrible
Speaker 1: but but kind of good in a terrible way. And
Speaker 1: then I did one about Duke basketball that got really big,
Speaker 1: like that ship really hit. I dropped it the week
Speaker 1: the torn It was one of those rare times in
Speaker 1: life where you come up with a plane from d C.
Speaker 1: But isn't a duke from NC, correct, So I thought
Speaker 1: it was from I went to Maryland and we fucking
Speaker 1: hated Duke at the time. That rivalry was crazy. So
Speaker 1: I made this video. We dropped it the day the
Speaker 1: tournament started, so I sent it out to everyone, and
Speaker 1: everyone when they sent there like you know, they're betting
Speaker 1: pool emails. Everyone who hates Duke, which is everyone who
Speaker 1: didn't go to Duke all forwarded this ship around and
Speaker 1: it ended up getting a million views, which in those
Speaker 1: days today it would be like getting a hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fucking gigantic. So then I get a phone
Speaker 1: call for someone and he's like, yo, um uh, this dude,
Speaker 1: Ebro wants to talk to you. He's seen your videos. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now Ebro is the PD at the time or empty
Speaker 1: he's m D and then Days the director for people
Speaker 1: who don't know he was next to the Days. Later,
Speaker 1: I read in one of the trades Ebro Darden named
Speaker 1: program director. So I'm like, oh, ship, the guy who
Speaker 1: wants to talk to me just got named boss. So
Speaker 1: ebro Um invites me up to eighty seven. Now keep
Speaker 1: in mind years earlier I had forced my way up
Speaker 1: top eighty seven to go meet the old p D,
Speaker 1: John Dimmick. Okay, that's before Tracy, after Tracy, before Ebro
Speaker 1: and I got up there and I was I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to be on the station so bad. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's great, you know, but you have
Speaker 1: no experience and you know, keep working and good luck, Ebro.
Speaker 1: I go see Ebro and he's like, yo, I want
Speaker 1: you to, um, come up and try to produce. We
Speaker 1: wanna we want a new producer for Miss Jones show.
Speaker 1: And this is Miss Jones an afternoon or Misses in
Speaker 1: the morning, okay, And he's like, we want you to
Speaker 1: do Miss Jones show. And we see that you know
Speaker 1: how to use the internet and that's new and we
Speaker 1: want to, you know, see what you can do. So
Speaker 1: I come up there, I go to do Miss Jones show.
Speaker 1: And she doesn't like you. That is the kindest way
Speaker 1: of putting. She did not funk with me at all. Um.
Speaker 1: I got up there and Envy was with her, and
Speaker 1: thank god for Envy, who was like, yo, bro accommodating
Speaker 1: welcoming Miss Jones. He was like, you probably shouldn't even
Speaker 1: be in the studio when she gets here. I spent
Speaker 1: two days sitting in a studio next to the studio.
Speaker 1: She just didn't vite with you. It was she she thought.
Speaker 1: She came up to me and she was like afterwards,
Speaker 1: she was like, what are you like some sort of
Speaker 1: sucking spy for Ebro. By the way, in retrospect, she
Speaker 1: was probably right, right. I mean, you guys bringing me
Speaker 1: into maybe be a producer or whatever, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to produce anyway. So a couple of days later,
Speaker 1: I'm home and Ebro calls me, and I remember I
Speaker 1: was standing, he's a guy back. Good news and bad news.
Speaker 1: Bad news is the Miss Jones thing is not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I was like, I really didn't think that would work
Speaker 1: out anyway. The good news is I want to have
Speaker 1: you do a Sunday Night show where you play like
Speaker 1: you know, you're like underground hip hop. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that was the greatest phone call in my life. That
Speaker 1: would if it if it had only been the Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Show. I was good how ninety seven cracking and
Speaker 1: Mike was my I grew up on just wanting to
Speaker 1: be flex. So when he was like, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a Sunday Night show, was like I picked the music.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, you picked the music. We'll do
Speaker 1: some video stuff. You can make some video content for us,
Speaker 1: and uh. And that was it, because that's what's interesting
Speaker 1: about the album When when I hear it, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we have Fat Joe on here recently, and
Speaker 1: Fat Joe said, you know, every producer, every radio personality,
Speaker 1: everyone has the same access to the same people. Right.
Speaker 1: So it's a particular way how comic makes his music.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was a particular way how you
Speaker 1: made this album was you went and you put Hot
Speaker 1: Night seven to the side, and you said, forget how
Speaker 1: Tony seven, I'm gonna do with real late represents, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do But what what makes you say, because
Speaker 1: why why wouldn't you like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: anybody would give you a verse, right, because because they
Speaker 1: want to be on on on a brow in the morning. Right. Okay,
Speaker 1: so for for most part, let's just say for the
Speaker 1: most part, but what makes you say to yourself, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go back to hip hop and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it the way I feel it fit.
Speaker 1: What makes you do that? I just don't know. I
Speaker 1: just I've made I had tried to make some commercial
Speaker 1: records a couple of years ago. I actually have one
Speaker 1: in the stats. That's crazy that I love. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: on it right now. So vibes Cartel French Montana record.
Speaker 1: It's fucking awesome. It's produced by Harry Fraud. It's to me,
Speaker 1: it's a fucking Eastern Parkway, you know, later that weekend
Speaker 1: a lot of coconut oil. But it was just like
Speaker 1: to me, I was like this would come out of
Speaker 1: nowhere to people, you know, if I just dropped a
Speaker 1: commercial record. And and then also honestly, it's about do
Speaker 1: you want to chase people or do you want to
Speaker 1: get people want to be on your ship. So about
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, two years ago, I
Speaker 1: started listening to my boy, this dude named top Shelf Premium.
Speaker 1: That's his his Instagram account. He's a vintage closed dealer
Speaker 1: in New York. He always has artists come to a
Speaker 1: store freestyle, and he started sending me music from my show.
Speaker 1: And so I started getting up on all these new cats.
Speaker 1: Right around the time Griselle just scorching, etcetera. And so
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, instead it chasing other people, let
Speaker 1: me go back to what I did putting people on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like people who when they
Speaker 1: hear the record on the radio still get excited like
Speaker 1: it means something to them. So when I started working
Speaker 1: with these artists a little while later, like yeah, I
Speaker 1: could get all these guys on the record, and then
Speaker 1: I can go get the legends who I funk with
Speaker 1: who will give me some verses and I can bring
Speaker 1: all of the ship together. He's got gholst Face, got
Speaker 1: great Kwan, got Jim Jones, Yeah, met the Man Style
Speaker 1: and then Fleelord Rock Marcy. So I was like, I
Speaker 1: can put them all together on one project and it
Speaker 1: will be organic. It'll be me, am I gonna make
Speaker 1: a million dollars. No, no, you're not gonna make a
Speaker 1: million do I'm not gonna make But I immediately listen
Speaker 1: and immediately went back to sorry to compare you, But
Speaker 1: it really went back to stressing. Oh yeah, sure, I
Speaker 1: overlooked everything else and I went back. One thing I
Speaker 1: love about the college album's college albums. Some people hate this.
Speaker 1: I love it. I personally love it because I feel
Speaker 1: like he put a bunch of hits together and and
Speaker 1: it and it resonates right. So it reminds me of
Speaker 1: an old king. Pret was my favorite back then getting
Speaker 1: to kicking pre tape. The thing you think about your
Speaker 1: album is the exact opposite. By the way, That's kind
Speaker 1: of what I hope people say. Okay, and I love
Speaker 1: Kalin like I respect Kalin, I love him personally. I
Speaker 1: don't want people to think it's like a Kalid album,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's for me. I wasn't about scoring
Speaker 1: the biggest names. It was like the thing I'm most
Speaker 1: proud of. It's a cohesive hip hop album. It's not
Speaker 1: some fucking soundtrack where each song sounds different. You would
Speaker 1: think all these cats work together and we're in a
Speaker 1: zone together. They weren't like, it's a great, it's a great,
Speaker 1: it's a great, it's a great. Um synergy. When it
Speaker 1: comes to the Beach, I can tell you personally picked
Speaker 1: the beast at my correctness is a perfect Like that's
Speaker 1: the word to use. And I think there's something to
Speaker 1: say that that's what Kalid does, That's how he makes
Speaker 1: his living. He those those gotta be hits gotta be
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm assuming that you're like, this album is
Speaker 1: not gonna make you or break you. This is a PASSI.
Speaker 1: I's been in his house and out on East Side
Speaker 1: West Side, by the way, my apartment now is way
Speaker 1: better than Okay, no likely, I'm not rich in hip
Speaker 1: hop terms, but I'm good enough that I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about it. And it's to me. It's all,
Speaker 1: It's all bus I said. I just hope one day
Speaker 1: people come up to me and they're like, Yo, that
Speaker 1: fucking real late album you dropped. That ship was fucking
Speaker 1: fire and there are people on it, you know, Like
Speaker 1: rock Marcy right now is a legend, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know that Rock Marcy is occupying the
Speaker 1: space that cats like Dila and Doom, the space they
Speaker 1: were in. That's who rock Marcy is right now. And
Speaker 1: I have him on the project with Fleet Lord, and
Speaker 1: Rocky is producing as well. He does, but he's not
Speaker 1: on this. Okay, Yeah, I got him my boy Disco Vietnam.
Speaker 1: I got my boy who's a forty year old Jewish
Speaker 1: man living on Long Island, Jewish the first time to
Speaker 1: make no right time. Yeah, yeah, that's right. I remember
Speaker 1: Glamy too. I don't know if you know. So you
Speaker 1: can feel comfortable. You don't say what I'm saying. I'll
Speaker 1: do it to pick up the arrogantick up the gag.
Speaker 1: God damn it. But okay, voting around boom. Now there
Speaker 1: comes the time in Summer Jam history when you fuck
Speaker 1: Summer Jam up. Let's just s throw it out there.
Speaker 1: It's a time for me to pop U bottles. We
Speaker 1: want you one, you want me to come. Let me
Speaker 1: hear it ghost first and now okay, literally a bunch
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah yeah, pop spade. You know you gotta
Speaker 1: prove listen. I didn't. I didn't. You gotta prove listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I didn't think you can get a lot of arts
Speaker 1: don't get approved. Maybe more they don't, just table. So
Speaker 1: I had to make a phone call. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So which one you want to go to?
Speaker 1: The gold? Okay? But you know that this is more expensive.
Speaker 1: This is the road. Okay, Yeah, it's gonna take this
Speaker 1: because I don't want him to feel jerks like when
Speaker 1: people see him, like why did he pick the gold?
Speaker 1: He didn't know the pile. So I want so you
Speaker 1: still want to to pick? I only drink that one, okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So so summer jams, summer jam. So you sunk this up.
Speaker 1: This is what was in my opinion, because in my opinion,
Speaker 1: this is just my hunting opinion. I can see you,
Speaker 1: my friend, So I want to told you this off
Speaker 1: the side. What it was wasn't the timing. It wasn't
Speaker 1: what you said. No, it was the timing of what
Speaker 1: you said in place and how you said and the
Speaker 1: fact is this is your headline, correct, this is a yes.
Speaker 1: This is a female who automatically, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say just sensitive because he's a female. But in this situation,
Speaker 1: you know, she's a queen of New York. This is
Speaker 1: the New York number one station and you get along.
Speaker 1: What was it? Was it the afternoon? No, that was
Speaker 1: the festival stage, So it was Kendrick was about to
Speaker 1: come out on the festivals. You picked up Kendrick. So
Speaker 1: as part of my way of hype being the crowd
Speaker 1: for Kendrick. You know, I'm a wrestling fan. It's all about,
Speaker 1: it's all about, it's about what it's in wrestling. We
Speaker 1: call it cheap heat, which, by the way, is the
Speaker 1: name of my podcast, Subscribe Everywhere. Cheap Heat me and
Speaker 1: sheep cheap like heat pets to say, you bring it
Speaker 1: back to pets, let's go. So cheap heat means in wrestling,
Speaker 1: if you want to get the crowd hot at you,
Speaker 1: that's called heat, right, So bad guys want to get heat.
Speaker 1: The cheapest way to get heat is to get out
Speaker 1: in the crowd and say, the bad guy comes out
Speaker 1: in Miami and goes, I can't stand Miami. I'm from
Speaker 1: New York whatever. And if you want a cheap pop,
Speaker 1: the way you come out is you're like, it's so
Speaker 1: great to be here in Miami. These are cheap, cheap
Speaker 1: and cheap pops. I was doing both. I was really
Speaker 1: going for a cheap pop because I know that the
Speaker 1: crowd that's there to see Kendrick. When I say fuck Starships,
Speaker 1: I know the crowd is gonna cheer for that. So
Speaker 1: it's for you right now. Thank you for your bottles.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think we got heat in
Speaker 1: hip hop. I'm sure. I don't think we do well,
Speaker 1: maybe not, You're right, I mean it ends up being expensive.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Okay, So I tried to pop the crowd
Speaker 1: by saying, now, listen, the truth is I had already
Speaker 1: been on the radio dissing Starships at that point for months, right,
Speaker 1: And you gotta realize us as artist, right when we
Speaker 1: have a relationship with you guys, when you just the record,
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't feel like you're dissing the record,
Speaker 1: but like dissing us. And I had no relationship with
Speaker 1: personal well, so it's even worse in some ways because
Speaker 1: I had at that time, I didn't know Nikki at
Speaker 1: all but Abril Nick and yeah, but remember your guilty
Speaker 1: black associated Well then, but remember Nicki's not even really
Speaker 1: in New York that much of that time, right, She's
Speaker 1: moving around, she's blowing up, she's still queen, and she's
Speaker 1: hearing it from people though that's what people go. So
Speaker 1: I make a joke, right like I used to make.
Speaker 1: I used to tease Nick, you know if you sip that?
Speaker 1: But hm, so Nikki at that time, you know what
Speaker 1: she would do like sort of her voice that she
Speaker 1: would go into I got Monster Cipher and I when
Speaker 1: we do the show, we would sort of like tease that,
Speaker 1: but not like we were shipping on it. We would,
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't shipping on it, like we thought
Speaker 1: she was dope. But when her friend, when people hear it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, the fucking Safari came up to
Speaker 1: people are telling her people talk ship So she already
Speaker 1: wasn't working with us. And then I did Starships and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this record? Blah blah blah and
Speaker 1: twelve so people wasn't going live, so this is this
Speaker 1: this So this is not like she could have went
Speaker 1: and look at someone's Instagram. So people aren't going live.
Speaker 1: Oh they're hearing it's still weird. Unless it was a
Speaker 1: clip we put up. She she wasn't gonna hear it.
Speaker 1: So and I didn't like Starships, and I stand by that.
Speaker 1: I think history kind of proved me right on. I mean,
Speaker 1: even though she made a bowload of money on it,
Speaker 1: did really well, it wasn't It wasn't a record that
Speaker 1: I liked. Now I admit I did not at the
Speaker 1: time think of sort of the implications, you know, me
Speaker 1: being a man, being a white man who she doesn't know.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even all that established yet shipping on you know,
Speaker 1: her record. I now realized sort of the privilege that
Speaker 1: was built into that. But at the time I'm just
Speaker 1: reping for it. To me, it's hip hop all day.
Speaker 1: And while I'm regretful about some of those situations, let's
Speaker 1: be honest. If I wasn't the kind of person who
Speaker 1: said ship like that, I wouldn't ever be here right now.
Speaker 1: If you don't have enough swagger and stupid, ill advised
Speaker 1: confidence to talk shit, you're not interesting. And I had
Speaker 1: to show listen all the rappers who wanted to funk
Speaker 1: me up in the first few years most of which
Speaker 1: I'm close with now President Company included it. It all
Speaker 1: came from a place of like, I just had stupid
Speaker 1: confidence that I deserve to be here and should have
Speaker 1: the conversation. In retrospect, I could see how now that
Speaker 1: would be considered problematic, but at the time I was
Speaker 1: just a guy who's like I trying to get on.
Speaker 1: I've studied the game and I'm gonna give my opinions,
Speaker 1: and that's what Ebro wanted me to do. So I
Speaker 1: was just doing what I thought I was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: But let's just be clear, alright, cool, let's take a
Speaker 1: way to fact that she's a girl. That's a good
Speaker 1: way of the fact that, um, she's a queen. Y right,
Speaker 1: that's a good way to fact for that right now.
Speaker 1: Just the fact that it was the headline, Yes, that's
Speaker 1: a stupid part. And it was streaming on her website.
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, what so she was streaming like
Speaker 1: because website. At the next thing, I know, the next
Speaker 1: thing I know, I'm on the side of the stage.
Speaker 1: It comes up to me where shows about to start.
Speaker 1: Heroes like you do you say something about Nikki on
Speaker 1: the festival stage and I swear to god. I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't remember. I was like, oh, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: I did. I talked about starships. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she pulled out of the show. And I was like,
Speaker 1: the next second I go on my phone, I opened
Speaker 1: up Twitter. I just see trending Peter Rosenberg. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: this is not good. Um, she's not doing the show.
Speaker 1: And so the first thing I'm worried about, naturally is
Speaker 1: my job. You know, I've only been there a few
Speaker 1: years at that point, and I'm like, I just cost
Speaker 1: us NICKI Minaj at summer Jam. That was fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: And You're right, the time in place was ridiculous, and
Speaker 1: I just wasn't being thoughtful. It was just fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: Had rectified that situation, had to apologize, right, didn't there
Speaker 1: or that was no one? No one even considered that,
Speaker 1: you know, and this is where hot you know listen,
Speaker 1: Ebro and Flex both neither has a small ego either.
Speaker 1: So while while I'm sure they might have been upset
Speaker 1: with me on some level, though neither ever said they
Speaker 1: were upset with me, they both just went the other way.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the brothers in Blue Leg They said, well,
Speaker 1: it was like the that's anyways, you know, I think
Speaker 1: they went with like, oh they're pulling out that we're
Speaker 1: hot ninety seven. No one's pulling out on our ship.
Speaker 1: It's summers GM. So they took that approach of defending me,
Speaker 1: and then of course they got messy because all young
Speaker 1: Money pulled out. You know, Buster was not happy with me.
Speaker 1: You know who I do have a great relationship with,
Speaker 1: and he was not happy. That was one of the
Speaker 1: many times I've busted was on cash Money at the time. Okay,
Speaker 1: and guess who else was Kalid? So you know, people
Speaker 1: weren't happy, but um, at the same time, everyone was
Speaker 1: cool in the long run. You know, it took some
Speaker 1: time with Nicky to smooth things over because you did
Speaker 1: eventually apologize to correct I did, and she did. I
Speaker 1: watched the video again recently. She definitely son the living
Speaker 1: ship out of the situation. A year later, before summer,
Speaker 1: jam Ebro sets up this whole thing for me to
Speaker 1: go come face to face with her. First of all,
Speaker 1: Ibro had to be there, which is I don't know
Speaker 1: if she was doing a little bit, Nicky might have
Speaker 1: suck you up. I'm just doing it up, you know.
Speaker 1: What it probably help. So I went to put my
Speaker 1: money and I just sat there one on one with her,
Speaker 1: and she just sort of, well, you intimidated. Nicky seems
Speaker 1: a little intimidated. She is, Nikki is super intimidated. And
Speaker 1: in that moment, I was, I was shook, and I
Speaker 1: took my lumps and said, I'm sorry, and she said,
Speaker 1: you're not smart, You're not funny, You're this, you're that,
Speaker 1: and honestly, not all that's true. I am rather smart,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. I understand why you're not feeling me.
Speaker 1: I apologized, and yeah, and then the truth is, though
Speaker 1: I don't talk to Nicky anymore, the truth is we
Speaker 1: had a period after that, over a couple of years
Speaker 1: where we were actually pretty cool, Like we would actually
Speaker 1: text and talk about music and I would a loose
Speaker 1: coming I want Sexton with Nicki and up, no, no,
Speaker 1: that ship comes up green now. But you know, we
Speaker 1: had a period where we were cool, and like even
Speaker 1: the next year at Summer Jam, um, like we talked
Speaker 1: on stage and I don't know, I actually felt the same.
Speaker 1: You know, when you beef with people or have a
Speaker 1: feud with someone, once you make up, there is some
Speaker 1: sort of odd kinship that exists. Like, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: NICKI likes me. I don't know how Nicky feels about
Speaker 1: me at all, but I know that at that time
Speaker 1: I definitely felt some level of closeness, you know, through
Speaker 1: some ship and you through it and we both and
Speaker 1: by the way, for the record, as mad as she
Speaker 1: was at me after that whole ship, her next album
Speaker 1: was her most hip hop and most successful. She bodied.
Speaker 1: Her next album was the next I think the next
Speaker 1: one was Pink Friday or was it Pink Print. I
Speaker 1: love how you grabbed the phone thinking instead of thinking
Speaker 1: how we used to do it so fucked up. It's
Speaker 1: so fund up that you are literally correct. That is
Speaker 1: what I do now all albums. At this point, you're
Speaker 1: taking credit for that next album. You know you're a
Speaker 1: good radio host. It was it was she no Pink
Speaker 1: Friday Roman Reloaded might have been the one with starships
Speaker 1: on it, so it would have been the next one, um,
Speaker 1: which was um the pink Print. Okay, um No, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking credit and I try efn. You've really developed
Speaker 1: White the host. However, I do think that there that
Speaker 1: that sis you a shan maybe impacted her on to
Speaker 1: some level, and she was like y'at into the hip
Speaker 1: hop ship. And let's be honest in subconsciously nicky with
Speaker 1: bart but we all want to I can't lie when
Speaker 1: I love her. I love her singing. I love her
Speaker 1: doing the pop ship because me being from Queens and
Speaker 1: no one where you know she comes from, I know
Speaker 1: what that's secured in the bag. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I do love when when she spits.
Speaker 1: But a part of me, you know, to be honest,
Speaker 1: like I said, when I've heard from her, like the
Speaker 1: first five records of the album, I was like, it
Speaker 1: reminded me of the days where I got nowhere. So sorry,
Speaker 1: you know that is the It was disrespect and it's
Speaker 1: thought because it's what got you where you want, the
Speaker 1: war reports, and they got me nowhere. Nor to the reports, no, no,
Speaker 1: prior to the war report. Not to actually worry port,
Speaker 1: but prior to the war report. What it is is
Speaker 1: when you were yo boils your y buzzle without the
Speaker 1: buzzle well, by the way, and by the way, your
Speaker 1: war report is the most hardcore underground should ever my
Speaker 1: ship sounds like the pink print next, I mean like
Speaker 1: like you don't get a twitch to story. You dropped
Speaker 1: the hardest album of Oh No. But I literally listened
Speaker 1: to your joint and I was like, wow, I just
Speaker 1: uh Fat Scoop had a late night show before. It
Speaker 1: reminded me of that, like the late night show with
Speaker 1: Fat Man's school, like pre Case Slay, pre Case Slay.
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: album saying me like when I was when I was
Speaker 1: making that type of music, making it that way, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't get nowhere. And that's the thing is like
Speaker 1: you know nas is Uh, it's a unicorn so to speak. Uh,
Speaker 1: Kendrick is a unicorn. J Cole. It's a camouflage unicorn.
Speaker 1: Like the way he's a camouflage unicorn like I've never
Speaker 1: even heard of. It was like the way the way
Speaker 1: cold spits and he gets nice and nice as he
Speaker 1: makes more money and more money. Um no, he's getting
Speaker 1: drunk right now. We're doing shots next. Um yeah. It
Speaker 1: was that water, holy water. He said, you asked for water, right,
Speaker 1: that is that water? Is it not? Spread? We didn't
Speaker 1: have water? You can we can find a water. So
Speaker 1: he's gonna make you some systems. So my I guess
Speaker 1: my question is and it's gonna sound funked up with me.
Speaker 1: Because I believe in lyrics. I come for it, But
Speaker 1: why should this young generation really believe in it? Like,
Speaker 1: I know I could get this coming back, but why Okay?
Speaker 1: So I have that okay, because the difference is in
Speaker 1: your era it was very hard. You might get an
Speaker 1: ill labeled deal, which is interesting case you get this
Speaker 1: upfront money ballah, but then where do you go from there?
Speaker 1: The beauty is now, Nori. You can be a middle
Speaker 1: class or upper upper middle class rapper. You can be
Speaker 1: a guy who who who his stream ships on a
Speaker 1: medium level and label needed and radio playe needed. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't even need a radio song, and you go
Speaker 1: do shows and you can do five hundred theaters all
Speaker 1: year round, travel, make money to Europe, Go to Europe,
Speaker 1: go to Japan. So like, I actually think the opportunity
Speaker 1: for the artists that are on my record, it's better
Speaker 1: now than it ever was in your day. Because even
Speaker 1: when you were putting out the most hardcore ship, you
Speaker 1: still were hoping, well, don't play and watch people do
Speaker 1: they even hear it as somewhere else? Like that that's
Speaker 1: the crazy ship. Like, but there was a monopoly by
Speaker 1: the record labels to get this music out and sold.
Speaker 1: You gotta realize, if I didn't go to that place,
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, Like I didn't know anybody played.
Speaker 1: Like literally, I did not know people played my record
Speaker 1: in Virginia. I literally even know people may pay my
Speaker 1: record in d C. Because if I didn't actually get there,
Speaker 1: there was no way for me to do that. And
Speaker 1: if the record labels knew it, they weren't telling me.
Speaker 1: So I thought I was hot in New York City,
Speaker 1: the whole word. Boy, I never knew people in Jamaica,
Speaker 1: not Jamaica Queens is listening to this ship. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. So, like the algorithms, all that ship didn't
Speaker 1: exist right now, and now it does. So I do
Speaker 1: think we're still not getting the technical numbers, like when
Speaker 1: we're looking at the streams and all that. And also
Speaker 1: and also yeah, like you and believe me, I can
Speaker 1: tell like I can already tell that my streams are
Speaker 1: gonna be a harder ride than it is for some people.
Speaker 1: You can see the system so rigged. Because my ship
Speaker 1: is organic. My ship is getting listened to the amount
Speaker 1: of is not organic. Listen to it twice today is yeah,
Speaker 1: like I saw it said it said one listen to Miami.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dad, it was I listened. I got to yesterday.
Speaker 1: You know, yesterday I felt he listened to half okay,
Speaker 1: so so but all right, so you said lyricists and
Speaker 1: al right, cool, you know when I you know, it's
Speaker 1: the l thing. The other day, I'm sitting there just
Speaker 1: randomly listening to my I pod, which is my iPhone,
Speaker 1: just got songs don't repeat, excuse me on shuffle, and
Speaker 1: these NAS songs come on and I literally can't picture
Speaker 1: these beats without NAS on there, which was different like
Speaker 1: right now, I heard some but do so I think
Speaker 1: it was t pay and say, yo, we should just
Speaker 1: think the produces right now because the beat is hard,
Speaker 1: We're not no one's really paying attention. They pay attention
Speaker 1: of melody. But is that something that's a problem. Like
Speaker 1: back then, the beat would be of it, The lyrics
Speaker 1: would literally be the other fifty percent of the beat.
Speaker 1: Right now, we're just listening to the melody. And and
Speaker 1: because you play a lot of it, yeah, we do
Speaker 1: in the morning. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I'm
Speaker 1: embarrassed to say how little of it I know in
Speaker 1: the Morning, like I have become that guy. Like I'm scared.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to give Ebro the idea of like,
Speaker 1: let's quiz Rosenberg on what we're playing right now, because
Speaker 1: I really unless I hear pop smokes voice, I've been
Speaker 1: listening a Little Baby, I don't know who the funk
Speaker 1: we're playing. I've been listening to Corey right for a month.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that was. I didn't know she
Speaker 1: talking about my man has been. I knew that almost
Speaker 1: in this record, I didn't know, like it's I think
Speaker 1: it's It's not that I think it's bad um at all.
Speaker 1: You know, people enjoy it. It's and and by the way,
Speaker 1: there are great rappers right like I think Little Baby
Speaker 1: is a great rapper, right little Baby, um, the Baby,
Speaker 1: the Baby Baby and has ill Baby. It's an interesting guy.
Speaker 1: But a little Baby is like an MC. A little
Speaker 1: Baby can wrap his ass off. And he's on the
Speaker 1: Coal album. He bodies the Coal album. You know, I
Speaker 1: think Roddy Rich is an ill in general, you know,
Speaker 1: with everything he does. So it's not about that you
Speaker 1: have to be rapping in a traditional sense. I just
Speaker 1: I just want to see ship be creative. And don't
Speaker 1: and like you know, sometimes there's good Ship and Black
Speaker 1: Front Cold Black by the way, yeah, I have even
Speaker 1: Cold Black both, y'all. Yeah, he doesn't matter me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but by the way, I was very into Kodak's music.
Speaker 1: I love that Patty Cake ship so much, like that record,
Speaker 1: so ill, like no, Kodaks pretty ill, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, he's ill. Awkward moment, but I'll i'll, i'll rapper.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them that I think are really dope.
Speaker 1: But listen, I'm always gonna t J. T J is dope.
Speaker 1: A little t joke with c J. I've always hell
Speaker 1: with c J two. But I mean I'm not looking
Speaker 1: far and Fabrio Fabio far fly you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just like you, just like you actually got it
Speaker 1: right for you? Who was five years dream Doll? I
Speaker 1: love dream Doll, Dream Dolls dope. Actually she can wraps him. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's about it's about who has the story though,
Speaker 1: who's really interested? You too? You too much into wrestling
Speaker 1: in boxing. That's that's what's real, you know, what's crazy thing.
Speaker 1: It was a great show on HBO called twenty four seven.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's great and I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 1: They would take seven, would take the most non interested
Speaker 1: person true and make him interested. And I agree with
Speaker 1: you to a certain stip, but I don't want us
Speaker 1: to create the story because that's the only thing seven
Speaker 1: I would be mad at is they would take a
Speaker 1: note interested in person, make him interested in and then
Speaker 1: seven is old the person is not interesting again. The
Speaker 1: thing is, I want to just to get you don't
Speaker 1: wanta watch the fight, would just gives you to watch
Speaker 1: and fight. The thing is, I wanted people to create
Speaker 1: the real narratives, take the real narratives and do that.
Speaker 1: And so that's what you're saying, these rappers are not
Speaker 1: having a story, right, I think, I think, I think
Speaker 1: they may have stories, but social media makes it look
Speaker 1: like all their stories are the same. It's not that
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's what it's not going to carbon copy.
Speaker 1: It's not that I think none of them are interesting
Speaker 1: or have a live a life to speak of. It's
Speaker 1: just like, because of social media and everyone basically doing
Speaker 1: the same thing, Like, there's never gonna be a time
Speaker 1: in my life when I don't find holding up money
Speaker 1: in a in an Instagram story stupid. Never like no
Speaker 1: matter how young or old I was. The idea that
Speaker 1: cats are showing money to the world to me is
Speaker 1: the craziest thing on earth. And and also, and then,
Speaker 1: not only is it stupid and dangerous, but it's boring.
Speaker 1: It's fucking boring. It's not that and what is it?
Speaker 1: A company? Ain't gonna see me do it because I
Speaker 1: ain't got it. I ain't got it. Well you know, actually,
Speaker 1: actually Mayhem Loren has a line on my album. He
Speaker 1: says he says something like autot hold autot hold money
Speaker 1: to my heir, but best believe I got it. It's
Speaker 1: like it just doesn't make sense to me. But more importantly,
Speaker 1: from an artistic standpoint, I don't find it interesting. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: have been, whether they admit it or not, annoyed with
Speaker 1: how much I supported Kendrick. I've heard about that constantly
Speaker 1: throughout my career, anoyed that you support him early on
Speaker 1: to the They're annoyed that I went as hard as
Speaker 1: I did there. Actually I believe the word that Lupe
Speaker 1: used was nuth hugger. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, But but
Speaker 1: the thing is champaign cup to I have I okay,
Speaker 1: what do you guys do? Drink shout? I want you
Speaker 1: guys to know I will do one shot, but oh no, no,
Speaker 1: if that's for I'm not yea, what is it you're
Speaker 1: giving me to? Hey, man, you can pick it. You
Speaker 1: can pick your poison. Man, this is this is hip hop.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know. You're on a hip
Speaker 1: hop show. So it's a drinking hip hop ship. It's
Speaker 1: just man, Yeah we did, we're doing it's some yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: coming to get to my mind? Your minds already all right? Cool?
Speaker 1: You got yours, Peter worlds where we don't know what
Speaker 1: you know. But our show is about giving people their flowers.
Speaker 1: Why they can smell them. They roses when they could
Speaker 1: they can tell them. They drinks when they get the
Speaker 1: hell them, and they smoke when they can sell them.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got it all wrong, said you
Speaker 1: know what I called you personally. I wanted you to
Speaker 1: be here because it's time for you to get your
Speaker 1: motherfucking flowers. By the way, on Dream Chaps, we had
Speaker 1: you know, fifty cent hair nas hair popped out of here.
Speaker 1: You're the only one who's who's telling us what amount
Speaker 1: of the shot to you us and telling us where
Speaker 1: them mount. So at some point we're gonna break this.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. We're gonna I just watched Cameron
Speaker 1: turned down drinks for three hours. He and Cam had beef.
Speaker 1: He squashed it on the end. You don't have beef.
Speaker 1: We did, we did. We had a brief beat brief.
Speaker 1: I don't remember this, don't. You don't remember either, you would.
Speaker 1: All I know is something happened. You were trying to set.
Speaker 1: We were trying to arrange something and somehow you thought
Speaker 1: I was fucking blocking in some way. And all I
Speaker 1: know is I was on set. It was very vague. Man,
Speaker 1: I wish I remember something, but something, so you don't
Speaker 1: remember either. So I was. All I know was I
Speaker 1: was on set at Hip Hop Squares and he was
Speaker 1: calling me like off, like I'm gonna come through. And
Speaker 1: we were already cool at this point. You know, we
Speaker 1: flipped on me. It was one of those things. I
Speaker 1: thought we were good and it was a full nor
Speaker 1: even and I know we made it was cool and
Speaker 1: the end, I know you were wrong and we made
Speaker 1: it was all good because I remember going to Hollywood
Speaker 1: Squares and I think that's the first time you met
Speaker 1: Amber Rows That sounds right, Yes, Amber was there. All
Speaker 1: I know is he was mad at me and thought,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of times ship happens it hot,
Speaker 1: and because I'm the person people are cool with or no,
Speaker 1: they get upset. That's I just keeps bobbing bottled by myself.
Speaker 1: You know. They I think when ship goes left it hot,
Speaker 1: they can take it out on the people that they know.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I really I wish I was a
Speaker 1: boss sometimes, but like I'm not, Like I really show
Speaker 1: up and just do my job and I talk and
Speaker 1: do my do my thing. So I remember when one
Speaker 1: year Summer Jam Travis Scott called me at ten am
Speaker 1: and he's like, Rosemberg, Yo, rosembert, I need to figure
Speaker 1: out my fucking lights. They don't, they won't, they won't
Speaker 1: hit me back. I'm trying to have a fucking crane
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah. And I was like, Travis,
Speaker 1: you think I know what the production. So I was like,
Speaker 1: here's Ebro's number, go ahead and call him. I do
Speaker 1: not do Summer Jim. But I don't think people understand that,
Speaker 1: Like they just assume my name's Rosenberg. I've been there
Speaker 1: a long time. I can get ship done, but I'm
Speaker 1: really the who's My job has always been to just
Speaker 1: be myself, and that's why I'm incredibly blessed for the
Speaker 1: job I have. But I don't wield fucking power at
Speaker 1: HOT except to play the records I want to play
Speaker 1: bro if I wield it. If I wielded power at Hot,
Speaker 1: the playlist would look a lot different than it looks
Speaker 1: right now. Right you ever they ever try to pay
Speaker 1: you to play a record? People have? Yeah, people have?
Speaker 1: And that was a subscribe a situation. You at Houston's
Speaker 1: only been to the New York Houston's like once, um,
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, by the way, and the and they don't
Speaker 1: it's not on the menu. But that fried chicken salad,
Speaker 1: the chicken tender salad not on the menu. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Connected comes with me? So you said pay a lot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've only had to happen a couple of times.
Speaker 1: How does this happen? You're a red lost and that No,
Speaker 1: it was actually it's all of fin outside of ninety
Speaker 1: seven is but that's the craziest part on camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, First of all, I don't take money
Speaker 1: for records, never have, never will. Second of all, you're
Speaker 1: walking up to me outside the front door. I don't
Speaker 1: know what ship used to be like, but that's fucking insane.
Speaker 1: But I made a deal with myself, just like I
Speaker 1: don't even have to. I would never play a whack record.
Speaker 1: I always say to people, if they want to pay
Speaker 1: me to play a record, I would say, if you
Speaker 1: send me some ship that I like, I will play
Speaker 1: the record. I don't money, I can Mr Lea who
Speaker 1: Spanish guys, the others loudest ones here. You gotta relax.
Speaker 1: You know, Power one of five is going at it
Speaker 1: with going out of probably on five blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: There's this list. We don't know if this exists or
Speaker 1: not right, but some somehow Flex gets a hold of
Speaker 1: this list from what I heard, and he beat up
Speaker 1: with all the DJs, whether they bowed one on five
Speaker 1: or they had ninety seven, and he flips on them
Speaker 1: and he goes, yo, man, you know we all should
Speaker 1: be getting enough money that we should not be taking money.
Speaker 1: One and then two because Young and May second single,
Speaker 1: I didn't get pushed because they said that dj is
Speaker 1: in New York didn't play it. Have you ever heard
Speaker 1: this story? I have never heard this because of what
Speaker 1: because because they didn't get the bag. They got the
Speaker 1: bag one of the back from from from duck down
Speaker 1: all let say from Drew h Yeah. It was crazy
Speaker 1: because what was young Inmate's first single? Oh so I
Speaker 1: guess the way all time classic? Let we need to
Speaker 1: pay for the last, don't you? Bobby Shmartin back to
Speaker 1: back moment was fine. So this is a rumor. This
Speaker 1: is you probably not you know, they don't probably see yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So they went to this is the room. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: step to everyone from Power say had a meeting. He
Speaker 1: had a doulabi and like a DJ luminati me did you?
Speaker 1: And it was addressed like yo whoop. And one of
Speaker 1: the main reasons was we had a New York star,
Speaker 1: you know, Younger May and who was it? Who? Number one?
Speaker 1: Whatever they had to do. But the second single came
Speaker 1: and every DJ felt like they didn't want to play it.
Speaker 1: This is the rumor you never remember correctly. That second
Speaker 1: single was pretty dope. It was pretty dope. I think
Speaker 1: Younger May is pretty dope period. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I'm just bringing that up to say have you
Speaker 1: ever dealt with that type of ship, because of course,
Speaker 1: you know, for us New York, we ran the world.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard for us to sit back and
Speaker 1: watch Atlanta. It's kind of hard for us to sit
Speaker 1: back and watch any anybody in a certain state doing
Speaker 1: what they gotta do. And when we're not at the
Speaker 1: fore front. But then we realize that we're here. That's
Speaker 1: a reason why there's certain people who want to be
Speaker 1: paid Like, I think that when it comes from your
Speaker 1: own I think that should never be approached. Obviously, I'm
Speaker 1: just giving you, actually your opinion. Yeah, it's because the
Speaker 1: way this is so boring that my answer is I
Speaker 1: have no idea, And I know I can already see
Speaker 1: the YouTube comments you have fucking right, you don't know
Speaker 1: you're the worst. Yeah, you're the one. You're that's because
Speaker 1: your father owns the whole radio station. Yeah, oh I
Speaker 1: get it all. How do your industry plan? How did
Speaker 1: you get My mom was a kindergarten teacher. She hooked
Speaker 1: me up. But I've never been close to that ship. Whatever. Now,
Speaker 1: I've heard stories from back in the day, just like
Speaker 1: you ask me questions. No, I know for a fact,
Speaker 1: And please remember what I said, because they'll kill me
Speaker 1: for cutting you off. I know for a fact Phone
Speaker 1: maxter Flex is not do it. I've tried any which
Speaker 1: way shape from the fact. From I've tried to buy
Speaker 1: a car Rims off of him. I thought a bit
Speaker 1: anyway safe for him complex one million percent his integrity.
Speaker 1: If he likes my record, he's gonna play it. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't like my record, he's gonna say I don't
Speaker 1: like it, He'll still play it. Once it's no bombs,
Speaker 1: there's no he's very very very suddenly. But when he
Speaker 1: does like my record, he goes in and so I
Speaker 1: can never be mad when he likes somebody else's record.
Speaker 1: But continue, I have never seen it, never heard of it.
Speaker 1: And frankly, if people say that, I think it's excuse
Speaker 1: making like we need to we need to be better
Speaker 1: in New York. We need to make better music. That's
Speaker 1: the issue. Hold on, my brother's call him okay cool?
Speaker 1: You know Nick, I'm on drink Drink Champs right now.
Speaker 1: You want to say anything on drink Champs? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: at Nick had going on, Ni going on the guy
Speaker 1: who got me into hip hop girls? Can I call
Speaker 1: you back? What are you guys talking about nor Is
Speaker 1: asking me how can I go into a conversation be
Speaker 1: like space something. He no, No, Nick, I'm telling him
Speaker 1: the story about how our family is in the Illuminati
Speaker 1: and how I got the job at seven because Dad
Speaker 1: rules the word. I'll call you back after that. We
Speaker 1: talk about I'm so into it. No the pay, all
Speaker 1: the stuff. Never say a secret DJ meeting. I believe
Speaker 1: it's excuse making I believe that New York just for
Speaker 1: a while wasn't making hot. Ship you as a fact
Speaker 1: what you're saying as a room. But FLEs had a
Speaker 1: meeting and told everyone you cannot take money for records.
Speaker 1: This this. He was disappointed. I heard that he had
Speaker 1: a tear in his eye because because of he didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't know that people were actually doing that. And
Speaker 1: when he realized that, she came up with another record
Speaker 1: and he was the only one playing the godess you're saying,
Speaker 1: you're saying that something like that, I'm paraphrasing something. So
Speaker 1: basically they funked with you because it was hot. But
Speaker 1: on the next one they like, now you gotta pay this.
Speaker 1: Yeah that well that would be a fucking disgrace, And
Speaker 1: we did anyone would deserve whatever they get for that.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know anyone like I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you guys like the DJs, your friends with all of them,
Speaker 1: like you know from Safe Camillo enough cast trends. Like
Speaker 1: everyone I know up there has been a straight dude,
Speaker 1: like a straight up food since I got there. No,
Speaker 1: but there's something let's be clear. We're naming the naming
Speaker 1: the good cops. That's like it's like when you the
Speaker 1: good cops on the Officer Das. There's a lot of bad.
Speaker 1: But let's be honest here and this is DJ is
Speaker 1: more integrity. But this is the thing what was created
Speaker 1: for DJ's to create some kind of situation that benefits somebody.
Speaker 1: Is the DJ Cruise. Yes, and the DJ Cruise is
Speaker 1: like mafia ship because you gotta get DMX first album
Speaker 1: listening party. It was all heavy hit. This that was
Speaker 1: definitely the Columbo family that it may not be hail it,
Speaker 1: but it was something like that with but no, No,
Speaker 1: that's true because the cruise make it complicated because you
Speaker 1: want a whole crew to support your record, you know,
Speaker 1: and listen, I'm sure I'm gonna encounter that right now.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be just hitting up every DJ at randomly
Speaker 1: myself being like, hey, is there anything you can play
Speaker 1: on this No, but listen, I can't ever condone a
Speaker 1: DJ doing some ship. I've been on my own fucking
Speaker 1: island bro playing the music I'm gonna play for. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they let me do it for thirteen years.
Speaker 1: I've never been paid for my Sunday Night Joe. I
Speaker 1: make my own playlist. No one says a fucking word.
Speaker 1: I have never Oh, no, I did. I had one
Speaker 1: little period where they started telling me I needed to
Speaker 1: play hits in my show. I forgot. I was you know,
Speaker 1: I forgot that happened. And for about a year they
Speaker 1: were like, send us the playlists. It was because of
Speaker 1: a whack boss. We had, not not ebro some like
Speaker 1: a whack dude who was there. Yes, there was a
Speaker 1: period where they were like, you need to on Sundays.
Speaker 1: We want to make sure that we're spending other records too.
Speaker 1: So I played along with them for like six months,
Speaker 1: and then slowly but surely they forgot. A new person
Speaker 1: came in and I'm no one bothers me about my ship,
Speaker 1: and I'm very grateful. Like on Sundays, I literally can
Speaker 1: shill in my house and be like, what am I playing?
Speaker 1: You know, like when X passed got Rest of Dead,
Speaker 1: I was able to be like, I'm gonna do an
Speaker 1: hour of X on late night and yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play the most random ship that people don't remember.
Speaker 1: I can tell them what late night, what time it
Speaker 1: comes on till every if you're in New York or
Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, you can stream it every Sunday
Speaker 1: night midnight Eastern, so it's Sunday into Monday midnights too.
Speaker 1: And I get to do whatever the funk I want.
Speaker 1: I've done it now for thirteen years, and you know, listen,
Speaker 1: it's a weird time to get to have this gig,
Speaker 1: Like this isn't the Glory Years. I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: stretching Bob. I'm never gonna be viewed to stretching Bob
Speaker 1: because this isn't the Glory you know, the the era,
Speaker 1: the Golden Years. Stretching Bob. Before we go to a
Speaker 1: quick time of flying, I thought we're going to commercial. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: what glory is? Okay, It's just it's not. That's not
Speaker 1: the time I've been in. Unfortunately, I've been on at
Speaker 1: the time actually where everyone's kind of moved on from
Speaker 1: the Golden era, and I've been the dude who continues
Speaker 1: to try to put my flag down for the ship
Speaker 1: that I love while growing the times. You know, I've
Speaker 1: supported all the biggest artists and not all, but a
Speaker 1: lot of the biggest artists in that over the last decade,
Speaker 1: you know, from Cole to Kendrick to Matt Miller. God
Speaker 1: blessed the dead. Earl sweatshirt logic, a lot of it,
Speaker 1: there's been a ton of I played Odd Future for
Speaker 1: the first time. I played Frank. When you Google, you
Speaker 1: say that you first person to play earl sweat shorts
Speaker 1: and had an interview? Would the first interview ever with
Speaker 1: the earl sweatshirt Like I was trying. I was waiting
Speaker 1: for him to get back from Samoa, like that was
Speaker 1: you know when those guys are fucking Tyler's a Grammy
Speaker 1: winning legend. Yeah, yeah, you know, I think in the
Speaker 1: exact same way. He's amazing because he's gonna do everything.
Speaker 1: I know I've been talking about him, But he's the
Speaker 1: should neglect perspective. He's artists that you are, But that's
Speaker 1: putting on because what he's saying with all the lyrics
Speaker 1: and this is that, No, you don't know the type
Speaker 1: of artists that can come out of the early odd future.
Speaker 1: Ship was the dirtiest, grimiest ship ever. Now granted it
Speaker 1: was they were sort of playing characters and they and
Speaker 1: Tyler knew what he was doing, but the bottle line,
Speaker 1: it's musically. If you go back and watch their first videos,
Speaker 1: they're fucking breaking, teeth, bleeding and doing crazy ship in
Speaker 1: the videos. It was some real It reminded me of
Speaker 1: some fucking Onyx but m O P. We're gonna really
Speaker 1: push the boundaries. Fuck you of this is everything and
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It was refreshing what they would do. No,
Speaker 1: it was, and so listen. The fact is I've lived
Speaker 1: a while while my radio show I don't think has
Speaker 1: ever gotten the glory and flowers that I would have
Speaker 1: liked it too. Though, I'm deeply appreciative of you guys
Speaker 1: who have always treated me that way. It means a
Speaker 1: lot to me. And there are pockets of people who
Speaker 1: treat me that way. Did he has always been that way,
Speaker 1: bust U Swizz like there are guys, the guys who
Speaker 1: spend time in New York because they drive around like
Speaker 1: did he The reason didn't I have a relationship is
Speaker 1: because did he used to drive around at night and
Speaker 1: people don't know that did He's a fucking head and
Speaker 1: he'd be like, Yo, what is the ship to your
Speaker 1: What did you play at twelve? You know? So it
Speaker 1: was shipped like that, That's how you discovered So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he still has that mentality to some degree. So
Speaker 1: while I didn't always get like, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily always get the stretch and Bob treatment of like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank God for Peter Rosenberg. Ultimately my life has been
Speaker 1: filled with so many blessings because oh Asap Mob, They're
Speaker 1: a great example. Rocky always heaps praise on me. Bronson
Speaker 1: always does too, and I'm super grateful for the ones
Speaker 1: who always the New York you know, Bronson's queens all day,
Speaker 1: Rocky and Ferger fucking Harlem. Those cats kind of understand
Speaker 1: it because they knew what it meant to hear it
Speaker 1: on the radio. Still, we live in an era and
Speaker 1: now we're not for it doesn't mean the same thing
Speaker 1: for everyone, But the fact is the fact that I
Speaker 1: got to be around these guys, you know, like Childish Gambino,
Speaker 1: who I've played on the radio for the first time
Speaker 1: to Gambino is one of the most brilliant minds and
Speaker 1: entertainment period. You know what I'm saying, Macmillan, good, I
Speaker 1: want to be my god. What's going on? I auditioned
Speaker 1: for Atlanta, didn't get on really. They asked me to
Speaker 1: audition for an episode of Atlanta at the very beginning.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you the story because you're gonna
Speaker 1: love this. I'm gonna working to launch you. Matt So.
Speaker 1: I hope your listeners appreciate and I know they do
Speaker 1: because y'all right now, but I hope I hope listeners
Speaker 1: appreciate the level of that one lineup that was dead pain.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in a laundry um so so
Speaker 1: Gambino and fam Uh. They hit me up and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're putting on a TV show. We want you to
Speaker 1: audition for a part. I'm like, okay, cool. He sends
Speaker 1: me the script. I read the script. It happened. It's
Speaker 1: episode one of Atlanta playing a radio DJ. I look
Speaker 1: at the script. I read it. I look at my
Speaker 1: ex wife at the time, I'm like, they have the
Speaker 1: N word in here. I call fam Gambino's manager. I'm like, yo, guys,
Speaker 1: you put the N word in the fucking script. I
Speaker 1: don't say the N word. He goes it's called acting.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, fuck you, all right,
Speaker 1: let me think about it. So I spent days thinking
Speaker 1: about what I was gonna do. Should I do it?
Speaker 1: Should I not do it? How would it play? What
Speaker 1: is the breakfast Club gonna do with the audio when
Speaker 1: the episode airs? And by the way, I would have
Speaker 1: been playing a radio personality. How many people are gonna
Speaker 1: believe it's just real? So I waived this out. I
Speaker 1: talked to Ebro, I talked to my boy Shanny Culture.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what should I do? I'm not even comfortable.
Speaker 1: I've never said I know this sounds crazy and people
Speaker 1: don't believe it. I haven't said that word. My parents
Speaker 1: raised me from the very beginning. Makes some noise for you.
Speaker 1: My parents I used to shame. I used to shame
Speaker 1: other children if I ever heard it, Like, I just
Speaker 1: was like, my I didn't even understand. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: My parents just said, that's the word. You don't say.
Speaker 1: So so I talked to everybody about them, like I'm
Speaker 1: not even comfortable doing this. So I talked to you
Speaker 1: Braun Sean. Everyone's like, bro, you got it if you.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think this show is gonna be legendary,
Speaker 1: though legendary, and they're like, I knew. I knew it was.
Speaker 1: It was Donald show. I knew. So I decided to
Speaker 1: do it. I decided to do it. I practice it
Speaker 1: and practicing it. I only felt comfortable practicing it with
Speaker 1: black people. I was like, I'm not gonna sit around
Speaker 1: with another white person and practice saying the end word.
Speaker 1: So I my boyshotty culture sounds mad awkward already, but
Speaker 1: I was like, if I'm gonna have to do this thing,
Speaker 1: we're I'm not gonna do this secluded with white people.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying getting comfortable with this. So I practiced it.
Speaker 1: I could tell he was like, this isn't that believable?
Speaker 1: And I did the audition, didn't get the part. I
Speaker 1: ran into FAM. I'm like, so what happened? He was like,
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe he's saying the N word. I
Speaker 1: was like, bro, I told you. He was like, it's
Speaker 1: just your two nice a guy. Because if you remember
Speaker 1: episode one, basically the DJ seems like, hey, I'm a
Speaker 1: cool DJ, and then he drops the N word because
Speaker 1: he's a douchebag, and I just wasn't able to pull
Speaker 1: off the douchebag. In retrospect, it was for the best
Speaker 1: who winds up doing it? And yeah, it wasn't a DJ,
Speaker 1: but it was like keV came in, you know, like
Speaker 1: it was no, it wasn't a DJ. So in the end,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably best it didn't happen. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I did want to be part of
Speaker 1: that show because I knew it was history. Like I
Speaker 1: knew this show was gonna be that's fine, icon, that's fine.
Speaker 1: So now this is a part of the show we
Speaker 1: called quick Time of Slid, quick Timer Slung quick Time time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're yeah, but you get it's just one other
Speaker 1: and you're quick yeah. Yeah. You gotta be boys, you
Speaker 1: gotta yeah. So it's one or the other. But if
Speaker 1: you want to pick both, it's great, but you gotta
Speaker 1: take a shot. It's just the way it happens. We'll
Speaker 1: get you every everyone, everyone, everyone, Nasa jay Z shot
Speaker 1: shots shot. You pick both. You take a shot, and
Speaker 1: you can't really explain much. You just gotta sorr. I'm
Speaker 1: already running it. I'm already sucking it up. It's cooled
Speaker 1: quick tim jay z J okay, alright, cool, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that barely barely okay, respect or loyalty, loyalty, alright,
Speaker 1: DMX or Tupac getting your shot ready. I don't think
Speaker 1: you could pick either. I mean, I think I know
Speaker 1: what he's gonna know. I'm who's gonna pick. Well, it's
Speaker 1: this is hard. It depends on what thing you're looking for.
Speaker 1: But for me personally, when it comes to music, DMX, okay, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that. Alright, Uh, Miami or l A
Speaker 1: l A sorry, you know you're in Miami right now,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't get that. I met Miami. I
Speaker 1: met you got to get a very quickly actually in
Speaker 1: a room full of Miami. But I just have a
Speaker 1: credit for that one more than any of the nineties
Speaker 1: or two thousand hip hop nineties for Roll or Kanye
Speaker 1: producer or come on, how many more do you have?
Speaker 1: You got? Like? Wait? Six and more? Yeah, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: let me think for one more second, alright, cool for
Speaker 1: for alright, cool ho Hogan, this would be easy or
Speaker 1: Rick Flair fla and he just no more hope. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, Ric Flair's hip hop, leave that alone. All right.
Speaker 1: Flare's my god. And by the way, in real life,
Speaker 1: Flare's my rip. Flare is my guy. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know who Agan. I don't know Whogan like that
Speaker 1: I met him. But Flare's my guy. I never I
Speaker 1: never met I've never met either. I want to hear
Speaker 1: that entire story. All right, Drink Champs are rap right off,
Speaker 1: Drink Champs by the way, by the way, shout Sally Wilson.
Speaker 1: We miss you. We missed the train and we missed.
Speaker 1: We missed the elliot wasn't trained. He hasn't send that
Speaker 1: Ellie wasn't trained since but not drinking? Yeah, COVID, come on,
Speaker 1: let's let's get out of COVID. Y'all even pick COVID
Speaker 1: or another desease COVID rap right, cod HIV. That was
Speaker 1: COVID very quick. That was not a question. All right.
Speaker 1: The Nicks to the next? Oh, well, Nicks, you gotta
Speaker 1: pick one boat. But I'm not a fan of either.
Speaker 1: I'm a selfic fan. But I'll say next. I pulled
Speaker 1: for the next one, all right, Cardi b or Nicki Minaj?
Speaker 1: Is that the last one? We got two more after it?
Speaker 1: But it's pretty easy, two more after it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty easy. This is the last. Yeah, let's just go.
Speaker 1: Let's go on this ship. I got one more organic
Speaker 1: food kings or GMO food kings? Which one? Which one? Should?
Speaker 1: I say? To organic food case the vegan keep going
Speaker 1: feeding us, feeding us? God damnit, hold on, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna put I'm not going icing this one that was
Speaker 1: sucked up. You knew that you put me in an
Speaker 1: impossible spot for the last at least you have because
Speaker 1: everyone takes shots like fat Joe said, I'm not drinking.
Speaker 1: We got we came to here drink, which it wasn't
Speaker 1: for Joe. What got Joe? Do you remember a couple
Speaker 1: of them? Yeah, I say, Joe is not taking j
Speaker 1: other No, no, no. We put remmy Ma and um Nicki,
Speaker 1: oh like remmy Ma and Cardio something like that, and
Speaker 1: he took with him up. Okay, so you ready it
Speaker 1: should be easy for you as well. Ricky Martin, would
Speaker 1: you say, Mammy Ma, pup, pup, daddy dredre got it?
Speaker 1: Puff podcast or radio Radio over podcast really well in
Speaker 1: d C. Yeah, I'm sorry, send y for me, and
Speaker 1: I didn't think I might take a shot because he's
Speaker 1: gonna pick DC. Listen, I love DC. It will always
Speaker 1: be where I'm from. It's where my family lives. The
Speaker 1: thing is these formative years for me I've been in
Speaker 1: New York. Like when when you know, how when you
Speaker 1: go back to New York, probably there are things that
Speaker 1: you're like, I barely even recognize this. This is so different.
Speaker 1: That's what it's like when I go back to you
Speaker 1: know what I'll say when I go back to New York,
Speaker 1: I'm like, fun this place right, Like only you can
Speaker 1: say that, you know, say that about Queens, I say
Speaker 1: about New York period until I land, and I land,
Speaker 1: I'm like dad for the first time recently missing when
Speaker 1: my girls from Queen's Okay, she took me to the
Speaker 1: Colosseum for the first time. I had never I had
Speaker 1: never done a proper Queen's shopping Colosseum experience. You know
Speaker 1: that's what NAS shot the person in belly. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was outside the Colisseum. Can you tell me though, what
Speaker 1: I know you're doing the interview, but what was the
Speaker 1: Colosseum like like a nice Saturday. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: you would have had to have a ro plane. What
Speaker 1: to do? I'm assuming your girl is white. I'm just
Speaker 1: asking she is, okay, yeah, so y'all too coming through
Speaker 1: back in the days, you would have to have some
Speaker 1: gold fronts and ushia. You had that Gucci jacket. Probably
Speaker 1: she wasn't white. What would be the difference? And she
Speaker 1: was taught that you just had to be a fair
Speaker 1: that somebody, somebody had to know somebody to make somebody,
Speaker 1: to be affiliated to get a beat. Patty, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's the be Patty spot right. I
Speaker 1: was so sorry ship that the ship that got barbecue
Speaker 1: be bad. They got jerked Patty. You would think I
Speaker 1: worked for them, they Queen's people or something else. Though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the way were the best girl. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I joked. I joke all the time with
Speaker 1: siphon one app that I say, daddy my girl. I
Speaker 1: was like my girls basically like spending time with Big Noise.
Speaker 1: That's how Queen's my girl. That's how when I think
Speaker 1: of Big when I think of Queen's I picture Big
Speaker 1: Noise being like, what's up, cousin? But my girls loud.
Speaker 1: Queen's people are just a different Honestly, if you're really
Speaker 1: from Queens. That's why Donald Trump is lying on his
Speaker 1: birthose kid, He's always been blaming Obama for lying on
Speaker 1: his perpose. He's been lying. He's saying he's from Queens.
Speaker 1: There's no way you can be from Queens and bed
Speaker 1: he's from I think he's from Brooklyn. You racist man,
Speaker 1: They got part smoking, Like if you're not in New Yorker,
Speaker 1: you don't appreciate how underrated great that line is. Then
Speaker 1: Donald Trouble's line is percian because he's not sticking of
Speaker 1: coming to people. Unfortunately, there are racists and every bir
Speaker 1: and is but no but to but to your point, like,
Speaker 1: and you know my girl when she when when her
Speaker 1: family moved to Brooklyn when she was in high school
Speaker 1: and she stayed, she commuted to stay at high school
Speaker 1: and Queens because of that, like because Queens is just
Speaker 1: like she was, like, the people here are just who
Speaker 1: I want to be around. It's a different atmosphere like
Speaker 1: that that is. I do think Queens is the most diverse.
Speaker 1: It's the most diverse place in America. It feels like
Speaker 1: I always say this on this show, and I say
Speaker 1: this like I grew up with an Indian, I grew
Speaker 1: up with a Patian, I grew up with a Russian.
Speaker 1: I knew every food. That's why I said, don't don't
Speaker 1: be mad at me when he's like, you know, this
Speaker 1: is this type of food, and I don't funk with it,
Speaker 1: like if he tried it already had it. Bronson wrote
Speaker 1: about that in this new bo I'm reading actually and
Speaker 1: he's like yo, and he's Albani and he's like yo.
Speaker 1: In my neighborhood, literally every day my crew of people
Speaker 1: was Albanian, Dominican, Colombian. It's every single kind of person
Speaker 1: is there. It's just you know, And that's why, honestly,
Speaker 1: when we talk about hip hop, the Queen's hip Hop conversation,
Speaker 1: you know, we always talked nas and Nipty. We mentioned
Speaker 1: like the obvious people, but the real history of queens
Speaker 1: and how deep it goes lost boys, CONNELLI, it's t seven.
Speaker 1: What's something yo? I wasn't seven from Xtra P Let's
Speaker 1: go um like, it's just queens is. Everyone will default
Speaker 1: and say Brooklyn or Bronze first, But honestly, I think
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that Queens is the best
Speaker 1: borrow in hip I believe, so I'll make some noise
Speaker 1: for that. God, damn, God, damn it. It's in the conversations.
Speaker 1: It's it's for me. It's Queens in Brooklyn, and you know,
Speaker 1: and the Bronx obviously the birthplace, so they have their
Speaker 1: own thing already. Yeah, we can't compete with them. They
Speaker 1: already the birthplace, the birthplace. We don't want that, Queens,
Speaker 1: but we kept it going. That's why I was easy
Speaker 1: for mc shan to tell that story because people told
Speaker 1: him this is what happened in the part. And by
Speaker 1: the way, do you want to know something that speaking
Speaker 1: of Queens that I've always felt that I think is
Speaker 1: a controversial hip hop opinion. I always thought that the
Speaker 1: best record in the in the Battle and Shan and
Speaker 1: I am a obviously I think k R S is
Speaker 1: a god. I always thought The Bridge was the best
Speaker 1: record in the whole thing. Yes, like record, I don't mean,
Speaker 1: I don't mean like got the hardest this in. I
Speaker 1: mean that when that ship comes on and you hear
Speaker 1: what Marley did at the beginning of the record, when
Speaker 1: those drums first at the beginning, to me, that was
Speaker 1: always it, you know what my Queen's mean over there.
Speaker 1: I like it more than the beat for the bridge.
Speaker 1: South Brons came out first right correct, then then the
Speaker 1: bigger bridge right then the bridge. The problem is when
Speaker 1: you can pay it. It's almost like when you can
Speaker 1: pay a takeover, you always have to say take over
Speaker 1: and super ugly, and then it's just crazy that eat
Speaker 1: the supersedes take over. And you know I'm notoriously I'm
Speaker 1: a takeover a guy over either. Yeah, but you're wrong.
Speaker 1: Everyone says that makes sense why you're saying yeah, but
Speaker 1: but but but I just never could funk with the
Speaker 1: beat to either. I'm too but you always said it's
Speaker 1: half beat, half rhymes. I never funked with And I
Speaker 1: told Ron Browse to his face, I respect you as
Speaker 1: a man and as a producer. I don't. I never
Speaker 1: walked with either like that brown step on your big toe,
Speaker 1: adopt all the feet like you know. I take the
Speaker 1: yell that I'm probably wrong on the takeover there because
Speaker 1: you pick J just but by the way, so opening
Speaker 1: that up a little bit, open that back. Let's open
Speaker 1: the back to open that back. J and NAS both
Speaker 1: occupy a space that is so important they're both such
Speaker 1: gods and so I'm sorry, not sorry, I did hear this. Okay, kids,
Speaker 1: your message and we get back to that. I just
Speaker 1: watched Belly the other day though, the day of X's memorial,
Speaker 1: I wanted to go on with this now. Just seeing
Speaker 1: Now's walk on the screen, I was just like, yo,
Speaker 1: he's such a fucking icon And and the other day
Speaker 1: he has a new He's in a new movie on
Speaker 1: Netflix right now. I know it's something monster. They're saying
Speaker 1: sliming there. They're saying sliming there so so and Rockies
Speaker 1: in it too, and world yeah, and when it's not
Speaker 1: exactive induceding. So I don't know how to do this.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna just leave it alone. You have just
Speaker 1: leave it alone at the big homies in a big home,
Speaker 1: Moivie like this right now. So I when I watched
Speaker 1: when Nads comes on the screen, he's in jail. He's
Speaker 1: in jail, and I'm just like, man like nas he
Speaker 1: just I just want to take like a moment to
Speaker 1: appreciate how iconic he is. And listen, I've been hard
Speaker 1: on Nods before, like I hated Uchiali's not being hard
Speaker 1: on Kay. But no, no, I love Nas. I love that.
Speaker 1: I mean we have a great relation with you didn't
Speaker 1: get a double right now? Was it like that was
Speaker 1: a pause you were setting up? But God, he's him
Speaker 1: and occupy different spaces. But like, um, they're both so
Speaker 1: unbelievably iconic. But who has the better bodies of work?
Speaker 1: That's what I always get into is who has the albums?
Speaker 1: And they probably have this almost the same amount of
Speaker 1: classic albums. Honestly, you know, I'm a I'm a blueprint.
Speaker 1: I'm a reasonable doubt blueprint. Then black albums slightly down
Speaker 1: from those two kind of guy. And you are illmatic.
Speaker 1: I'm an illmatic. I'm an almatic through and through. I
Speaker 1: love it was written. Um, I think people I think
Speaker 1: there are other ones in there that people have slept
Speaker 1: on a little bit. I think God's Son has incredible
Speaker 1: him still madic, the stillmatic hims, you know, the second
Speaker 1: Childhood like there's you know. But I think here's the
Speaker 1: thing about Nas though I don't think Nas. I think
Speaker 1: his his interest in beats is weird. It's not what
Speaker 1: I would expect sometimes what he chooses and then Hove
Speaker 1: I think has great beat selection. But I think he
Speaker 1: intentionally chooses some weird ship sometimes because he wants to
Speaker 1: just kind of shine, you know, like, I don't think
Speaker 1: either of them are no one's flawless. Bro. The thing
Speaker 1: is this, we were we were grading on a scale
Speaker 1: that didn't make sense because we had never seen artists
Speaker 1: age before. So when someone has three albums, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: the fourth one is not great. You forget about the
Speaker 1: fact that they might have fifteen albums. You know, Paul
Speaker 1: Simon is one of my all time favorite artists, right,
Speaker 1: Paul Simon seventy five years old. And you can call
Speaker 1: me at you call me a, you can call me out.
Speaker 1: I don't notice name, just call him out. The sound
Speaker 1: of silence, the sound of silence you how about how
Speaker 1: about Mrs Robinson? God, please, Mrs Robinson's Jesus loves you
Speaker 1: more than you could know never heard, I think. So.
Speaker 1: You know the fact that you just said I don't
Speaker 1: know that and words about all Simon is the illest show.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, all right, listen. My point was this, though,
Speaker 1: with Paul Simon or Bruce Springsteen, of these guys who
Speaker 1: have been around forty years, boss, they have they have
Speaker 1: bricks in there, they have bricks, but at the time,
Speaker 1: in the nineties and early two thousands, when I was
Speaker 1: grading albums, I had never seen a rap artist who
Speaker 1: lasted thirty years. So they dropped one album, we go
Speaker 1: they fell off. They didn't fall off. They made one
Speaker 1: whack joint as part of an entire career in which
Speaker 1: they'll make more classics down the line. So we always
Speaker 1: think it's the end. You know, guys, we could have
Speaker 1: ten more Kanye albums left. We could have seven more
Speaker 1: Nas albums left, eight more jail there. These are young
Speaker 1: men relatively, you don't know how, so like we were
Speaker 1: always holding this whole It's a young man's game, that's
Speaker 1: what was only because rap artists hadn't lived long enough
Speaker 1: for it to become a generational game, and we stupidly
Speaker 1: cut off our own old school artists and made them
Speaker 1: feel like they weren't cool anymore when they chow up
Speaker 1: at the club and they were forty five. It's all
Speaker 1: these guys are we should We should have always been
Speaker 1: treating them like you don't know about to drop next,
Speaker 1: yoused to tell somebody do tim push ups like old school,
Speaker 1: like your old school. By the way, he already the father,
Speaker 1: of course, I think but like you know, we just
Speaker 1: need to we don't. We don't realize where the game's going.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna drop a classic album? Those two artists specifically
Speaker 1: set the bar so high. No, no, no, not with
Speaker 1: their first album I Love You, I Love You, I
Speaker 1: Love You. They set that bar so high for themselves
Speaker 1: that that's why everything felt like a disappointment after that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not the truth. Thing is like the last
Speaker 1: the last whole album four four or four was fired.
Speaker 1: I think Story of O J is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest home songs of all time. Here's the goal when
Speaker 1: you get older in music age. No, here's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Okay, relevant to what are here, but
Speaker 1: don't know, don't fake it. I agree that that it's whacked.
Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say was when you drop
Speaker 1: an album, if you could drop a classic, that's great.
Speaker 1: But what you really hope to do, You're gonna be
Speaker 1: touring for the rest of your life. You're adding one
Speaker 1: or two songs to your playlist at your shows. That's it.
Speaker 1: When you go see um Billy Joel, I've seen Billy
Speaker 1: Joel to gard. Remember he was doing a resident Billy
Speaker 1: Joel in a residency at Madison's where gard Billy Joel sing,
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ Almighty, he did a residence. How about
Speaker 1: piano Man? How about town Girls? Yeah, you know he
Speaker 1: has to hear the song. He guarantee, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: He's got a bajillion hits. Right, his catalog was worth
Speaker 1: a good zillion dollars. You say bajillion, I'm taking that.
Speaker 1: So when when only Joel? When he when you go
Speaker 1: to his concert, ninety of the songs he put out
Speaker 1: between the late seventies and after that, there's one song
Speaker 1: off each album that was a hit that he does
Speaker 1: it the concert. That's it. No one was listening to
Speaker 1: the late albums all the way through. They took the
Speaker 1: hot joint. You added to your set. You keep it moving.
Speaker 1: And then later in your life, the goal is you're
Speaker 1: seventy two years old and you get nominated and you
Speaker 1: win that Best Album Grammy. You know, like we'll see
Speaker 1: like a Bob Dylan nominated at seventy one years old
Speaker 1: because he finally hit another classic joint. But you don't
Speaker 1: have to have our Tony Bennett. You don't have to
Speaker 1: have a You just need to make good still fingerpop
Speaker 1: it's something somewhere, Tony, Tony, He's still we're having for this.
Speaker 1: You also started be between Saigon and Mob D but
Speaker 1: that was the end of the beating. That was the problem.
Speaker 1: I was there. That's all I saw was your show. Wait,
Speaker 1: you were there. We had to show. I was supposed
Speaker 1: to perform the war report for the first time ever,
Speaker 1: and oh my god, you were on the show show.
Speaker 1: That's how I booked it. It was like, you agreed
Speaker 1: to do the war report for the first time ever.
Speaker 1: We've never done a war report before that, We've never
Speaker 1: done a war report since. So you came to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it. You convinced me. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: let's do it, but have mob Do you do the
Speaker 1: whole infamous? I said, And oh yeah, it was Marvel
Speaker 1: was gonna do the infamous. You were gonna do the
Speaker 1: work we had And I said a mob had really
Speaker 1: just really just been on the same fucking disaster I was.
Speaker 1: Who didn't pull me aside and say, bro, do you
Speaker 1: know all the people you're dealing with right now? Do
Speaker 1: you know what problems? Because so here's here's the thing
Speaker 1: I'll say, Because I know I saw a sign on
Speaker 1: your podcast, and I talked to Saigon recently without the
Speaker 1: challenge April. You wanted to get to that later. He's
Speaker 1: got it. By the way, I'd like to answer, Saigon, no,
Speaker 1: not fighting. You know how that would turn out, and
Speaker 1: it's not a dub for me. So let me just
Speaker 1: say this, um, and by dub, I mean w I
Speaker 1: would lose. So Saigon's version of the story is not
Speaker 1: how I recall it. I was brand new. I did
Speaker 1: not know who had issues with who at that very moment.
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds crazy because people didn't know
Speaker 1: Sigon and Prodigy had ship, but at that time I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I was like, Sigon, you want to
Speaker 1: perform the show? He said, sure. I'm playing his Come
Speaker 1: On Baby record every week. I'm the guy playing it.
Speaker 1: I'm sucking into it. I love mob deep as you
Speaker 1: know I love you guys. Hope jumping on it probably
Speaker 1: maybe he's just jumping on it right at that moment.
Speaker 1: And so the one part that I'm saying, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to cut you off, You're saying that jay Z might
Speaker 1: have jumped on it that record because of the actual incident,
Speaker 1: because remember him and p had problem. Wow, No, that
Speaker 1: is trying to make it a double another and another
Speaker 1: be that was that wasn't wasn't that I was talking
Speaker 1: so so I didn't. I didn't beg Saigon to perform.
Speaker 1: I know I asked him to. I definitely said I
Speaker 1: would love for you to perform your song, he claims
Speaker 1: in the story that he tells. I don't fault him
Speaker 1: for this. I think it's simply the stories we tell
Speaker 1: ourselves the time goes on. He's like, Rosenberg begged me
Speaker 1: to do it. Bro I was such a little bitch
Speaker 1: made fresh out at chevy Chase Maryland. I wasn't pressuring
Speaker 1: anyone to do ship. Then you know me at that time,
Speaker 1: you said, chevy Chase, I'm from chevy Chase, Maryland. I
Speaker 1: need to visit this. Chevy Chase has Maryland. Chevy Chase
Speaker 1: Maryland is this? Is this like Dave Chapelle, like Deason
Speaker 1: Belle got his own from the same area too, But no,
Speaker 1: chevy Chase is. I think he took his name after
Speaker 1: the place he saw them on the map, and it
Speaker 1: was like, that's a funny name. Have you heard Have
Speaker 1: you heard of Silver Spring Maryland? You've heard Spring? I
Speaker 1: know it's so with live now you know. Now he
Speaker 1: doesn't know, but he used to be chev che is.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't built for any of this. Ship.
Speaker 1: You should come to sa at my parents house a passover, sater.
Speaker 1: I want to take mash mushrooms and just hang out.
Speaker 1: It's not like white white people aren't just doing mushrooms
Speaker 1: willy nilly over. It's not a passover. It's not the
Speaker 1: way it works. I mean, I'd be down to try it, um,
Speaker 1: but but I don't remember that. I don't remember at
Speaker 1: that time. Me pressuring him would be crazy. I never
Speaker 1: would have been like, you you're about to go on
Speaker 1: that stage I got he said, begging, begging and pressuring
Speaker 1: or to the good point. I would have let it go.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been like, please go on either you
Speaker 1: would be like, oh you don't want to do it, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I get it. Whatever it is, it happened, Um, I understand.
Speaker 1: And I told this, just go on the other day,
Speaker 1: I said, I get it, bro like. So he spoke
Speaker 1: after he was on here, after he was on here,
Speaker 1: and then after that he went on social and talked
Speaker 1: about he was the celebrity boxing match. Yeah, and he definitely.
Speaker 1: He definitely TV and you ready, he's read too. He
Speaker 1: was ready, he was and I and I said, I
Speaker 1: was a little bummed out by things that he said
Speaker 1: because we were We've been cool for years. And he said,
Speaker 1: what was bummed out that he said? Sir? It was like, Uh,
Speaker 1: these guys don't care about the culture. Just some ship
Speaker 1: about me that's not true and that he knows is
Speaker 1: fundamentally not true. Sigon and I made a record together.
Speaker 1: He put it on his album. By the way, didn't
Speaker 1: clear it with me. I've never said one word. He
Speaker 1: took a record we made. It is currently streaming on
Speaker 1: his album from years ago. I never said ship. Take
Speaker 1: the fucking record. I'm glad he made it. A little
Speaker 1: fames on it. It's fire. Shout out to Hodyest you
Speaker 1: produced it. It's a great record. I fun with Saigon.
Speaker 1: I think it's unfortunate the way she played out. You
Speaker 1: don't even reduce it. How is it? It was put together?
Speaker 1: I created a super session. I introduced Odyessey to these
Speaker 1: artists and we did it one day, composed, I did it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I like that, it's what so um.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is, it's unfortunate. And I think Saigon
Speaker 1: is it udible talent. I said to him the other day.
Speaker 1: He was saying that, like, Yo, this one event was
Speaker 1: a really bad event, and you know, some ship didn't
Speaker 1: work out my career. Said, Bro, we listen. You got
Speaker 1: some bad breaks, no doubt about it. You also got
Speaker 1: some great fucking b You got jay Z on your
Speaker 1: first single. Well and and listen, I get it. So
Speaker 1: I didn't work out. He was also the guy on Entourage,
Speaker 1: like good ship happened for Saigon too, And by the way,
Speaker 1: that Entourage don't listen it. The point is he's a
Speaker 1: good dude. We all have. We all have, and he's
Speaker 1: a passionate, real dude and a real artist. I fucking
Speaker 1: love Saigon. I've known him again. It's one of those things.
Speaker 1: We have bee very early. Even before that, we had beef,
Speaker 1: we had shipped. Before that, we made up, I know,
Speaker 1: we talked it. Now. I love Sigon, Like ship happens
Speaker 1: is unfortunate. But I'll just tell you this, I was
Speaker 1: a new jack. I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 1: I'll take the l for even putting the show together though,
Speaker 1: because I didn't know. I was just father, you know,
Speaker 1: tell him the last words. I said, it was all positive.
Speaker 1: It's all positive energy. It's all positive energy. I can't live.
Speaker 1: Peter Rosenberg said, great ship about you as positive energy.
Speaker 1: So so it's the positive part of the thing. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I said, y'all say what's up? Man? We squats beep
Speaker 1: on drink champs. What you know, I literally just said
Speaker 1: that I loved you two minutes ago, you know I
Speaker 1: I was just telling them that we have a history
Speaker 1: that goes back before that event. You know, he's got
Speaker 1: He's a big fact, big fact bro. You know it's
Speaker 1: all love man. Yeah, and you know your Peter Man
Speaker 1: check us out like like when you when you Gucci man,
Speaker 1: like like that whole ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The reason why it still comes up because when I
Speaker 1: through pressing Peter like a big question is what happened?
Speaker 1: What happened? Like you had all this energy it just
Speaker 1: went away. Yeah. I gotta be honest and be real
Speaker 1: about I get it. It took place and and and
Speaker 1: for that, like I'll be telling it is that's equivalent.
Speaker 1: So they can having a fucking drinking feature today changes
Speaker 1: you l You know, I got ed, but so many
Speaker 1: ways now I get when you told me that when
Speaker 1: you DM me that, like, it made me understand why
Speaker 1: it comes up again. And obviously, listen on our memories
Speaker 1: are gonna be different of ship. Our memories are different
Speaker 1: of ship. But that is what it is. You know,
Speaker 1: it's love. Bro? How is how is your Oh? You
Speaker 1: mean from that night? Yeah, of course we're too human beings,
Speaker 1: but two versions of your own life. And to this,
Speaker 1: I told you I'm not supposed to even be in
Speaker 1: I was dumb, bro Seory, Yeah, what's got your you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But but but but it's the
Speaker 1: real ship, p Like we had a relationship prior to that.
Speaker 1: And and I've been to your crib. You know I'm
Speaker 1: saying fact a crib. I'm saying, like, I know your
Speaker 1: bro introduced me your brother and it was a voice love.
Speaker 1: So so really I want to slam me bro still,
Speaker 1: but listen, I'll try to us, all right, I'll try
Speaker 1: to do this. It's positive. And I knows your brother
Speaker 1: and I know you have to got y'all close it.
Speaker 1: But he was my man too. He didn't have to
Speaker 1: do me like that. Broke again to do me like
Speaker 1: nobody was bleeding. There was no scuffo. They still performed.
Speaker 1: It was not Hey, listen, let's let's set up a combo.
Speaker 1: Let's set up a combo and talk it up and
Speaker 1: move onward and upne Nori Nor is now the king.
Speaker 1: By the way, he did you jack that from me?
Speaker 1: That that's a Rosenberg move the mid podcast blind calling
Speaker 1: people and holding the ship? How do you think we did?
Speaker 1: Interview said, by the way, all right, pick up that
Speaker 1: I don't want no violence, and I'm gonna say something
Speaker 1: that I got two more questions after this. Cool, I
Speaker 1: actually don't have the stories. Yeah, you made fun of
Speaker 1: me the day that of Yeah, interviewed the Saigon things.
Speaker 1: It's like you Nor can't say what a lot of
Speaker 1: these other artists say. I never had be for brol
Speaker 1: you said that hero. It's like Nori and I definitely
Speaker 1: never had any problems ever. Like you were good. You
Speaker 1: have been pouci at ninety seven, even after all the
Speaker 1: ship that went down. Everyone knows about you know, there
Speaker 1: was never an issue. So I gotta I gotta stand
Speaker 1: up for you, bro, because you know, sometimes people think
Speaker 1: that you know, you know, when you were banned and
Speaker 1: they took you over, how they say they blame evil
Speaker 1: for that, and I gotta be a man and tell
Speaker 1: you that he had nothing. He was not even in power.
Speaker 1: He was not even in that. But afterwards he came,
Speaker 1: we spoke, I had the first like his first night
Speaker 1: in New York. We hung out, had a great time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I've never actually said
Speaker 1: that publicly. He said it a couple of times, but
Speaker 1: I want to say I want people to know that. Like,
Speaker 1: so you know, Eviro was super solid with me the
Speaker 1: morning show, you Laura styles, uh, Peter super supported man.
Speaker 1: So I just want to make some noise because a
Speaker 1: lot of people think, a lot of people think a
Speaker 1: lot of people think. All right, So moving on, DMX
Speaker 1: just gotta day. What do you feel about that that?
Speaker 1: I got one more question after that, and that's that
Speaker 1: he just got a day. Yeah, a day, like a
Speaker 1: day dedicated to him DMX on his birthday. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the whole uh state of New York correct New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, listen, he is uh X is so special. Man.
Speaker 1: E FN and I were talking before we got on
Speaker 1: the air about his last appearance on your show. It's
Speaker 1: just that I can't believe that he's gone man, it's
Speaker 1: it's a really I've only got to be in his
Speaker 1: presence actually a few times, I know, not very much,
Speaker 1: um because once as you hope hosting the um Rock
Speaker 1: the Bell that that was the only time I got
Speaker 1: to be around him, and then that interviews on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and it was he was great. I mean it was
Speaker 1: one of those those things that X were like you
Speaker 1: could tell he's, you know, not sober during the conversation,
Speaker 1: has come to you and be bad. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he was still great though, like like it's it's a
Speaker 1: weird thing, you know when everyone One thing I love
Speaker 1: about the X story, as sad as it all is,
Speaker 1: is is that it's a very open story. He's honest,
Speaker 1: you know, Swiss is honest, and we all know that
Speaker 1: X had a hard life and had demons to deal with.
Speaker 1: So instead of talking around it, we're able to talk
Speaker 1: about a real man who was vulnerable in that way,
Speaker 1: yet he managed to struggle with these demons and yet
Speaker 1: be a good dude through it all. Like I have
Speaker 1: not heard the story yet of X treated someone like
Speaker 1: ship Like when you met him, he was everything you
Speaker 1: thought he would be in a good way. Now listen,
Speaker 1: you book him for a show. He might show up
Speaker 1: two hours later. Maybe he might not show up. He
Speaker 1: might might be drink, might be still part of what
Speaker 1: you would expect of that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like he was, he was an enigma. He was he
Speaker 1: was amazing man like I he's that. He's that when
Speaker 1: I have that that moment where I need to play
Speaker 1: something and make myself feel like I'm kind of bigger
Speaker 1: than I am, I play that what's my name ship
Speaker 1: by you know that ship, the one that has the
Speaker 1: intro that the burgundy um leather thing on and it's
Speaker 1: black and yeah, Tyson came out to in a couple
Speaker 1: of times, and that was you know, so rest in peace,
Speaker 1: acts men. I wish I got to know him a
Speaker 1: better damn man. All right, now, this is the last question.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't believe you're I'm gonna get out
Speaker 1: on time and make my flight too. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do it. But you got to get to the shot
Speaker 1: this question once. I'm going I'll take your no. No.
Speaker 1: Three is my lucky number, so you gotta do it
Speaker 1: on Campra. Three is my lucky number. Um. But the
Speaker 1: question first start, Just let me get the question of
Speaker 1: my head. It was I've grown close to you because
Speaker 1: I kind of don't remember. I think it was a
Speaker 1: slight problem. I don't think it was a problem beef
Speaker 1: like how you thought it was. No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: sure all right, but me and you got along, we
Speaker 1: did and it was one thing that happened. Oh god,
Speaker 1: I didn't drink it. Go ahead, and it was a
Speaker 1: Chuck d Oh wait wait wait wait, Chuck d intident. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I would like you to recollect as much as
Speaker 1: you you would call this incident. I'm glad. I want
Speaker 1: to do this with you. I'm glad. So Summer Jam
Speaker 1: one year is like thirteen fourteen, something like that. Some
Speaker 1: fusory happened at the end. I think it was maybe
Speaker 1: the fifties slow Bucks thing, or it was some ship.
Speaker 1: It was one of the fuckory Summer Jam moments. I
Speaker 1: don't remember which one. There have been several moments. And
Speaker 1: afterwards Chuck d made a statement of some sort I
Speaker 1: don't remember where anymore about hot ninety seven and us
Speaker 1: being shitty and irresponsible and whatever the ship was, and
Speaker 1: in that moment he wasn't wrong to be upset about
Speaker 1: a moment that occurred, but his overall in my opinion
Speaker 1: his overall way of describing Hot ninety seven. While I
Speaker 1: understand why people do it, I wish they really knew,
Speaker 1: like we are not like you just said about ebro
Speaker 1: hebrow is the most misrepresented guy he does. He does
Speaker 1: it to himself to some degree because he not a
Speaker 1: su and he knows that because he's not from New
Speaker 1: York and he's not a sucker, he has to play
Speaker 1: a certain part. By the way, he roes a big motherfucker.
Speaker 1: So he also people might get extra salty because when
Speaker 1: they want to test him, they see him and they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll let this one live. So he he
Speaker 1: puts off a big energy that I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people misread him on. He's a fucking quality, solid dude.
Speaker 1: And the station the way we operate in general, like
Speaker 1: we are you know you meant you think of like
Speaker 1: you're in New Yorker, Lisa evers, we are a solid
Speaker 1: community radio station that cares about the community. By the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, like we are, and we we do. We
Speaker 1: still do a community affairs show like places don't do
Speaker 1: community affair shows. They let me have my real late show,
Speaker 1: like we do quality ship on Hot. We are a
Speaker 1: deep part of the community. More so, we are not
Speaker 1: a huge company. Everyone thinks we were the bad corporate giant. No,
Speaker 1: we were always the smaller station. We were just the
Speaker 1: heritage station. So when Chuck made his statement again, I
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what it was. It came from a
Speaker 1: place of judging a moment where he was right to
Speaker 1: be discussed. Did with the moment, but I thought the
Speaker 1: view of the station was unfair. And you asked earlier.
Speaker 1: You said loyalty or respect, and I said loyalty, no hesitation.
Speaker 1: So I love Chuck D. I grew up listening to
Speaker 1: Public Enemy and I did living base Heads video. It
Speaker 1: was part of me becoming in love with hip hop.
Speaker 1: Fight the Power and Shut him Down remix. I would say,
Speaker 1: are two of my top ten favorite rap songs ever made.
Speaker 1: I respect Chuck D. But in that moment, I felt
Speaker 1: this need to be defensive of the place that has
Speaker 1: changed my life, and I rode hard, and in retrospect,
Speaker 1: I went too hard. I really did, And I am
Speaker 1: of all the moments I've had, that is the one
Speaker 1: I'm regretful for because I when I look back at it,
Speaker 1: it just reakes of privilege. It was showing it was
Speaker 1: showing even if I didn't agree with him, Chuck d
Speaker 1: is so revered that I should have handled that like
Speaker 1: a son and been like, hey, that's Chuck's opinion. He
Speaker 1: has every right to that opinion and kept it moving.
Speaker 1: And instead I had the bat in my back to
Speaker 1: be like, you know, it's probably still off the of
Speaker 1: the Nicki Minaj thing, thinking let me let me talk
Speaker 1: some ship. I'm incredibly regretful for it. Um And. And
Speaker 1: the nice part of the story is I had a
Speaker 1: lot of people call me and tell me different things
Speaker 1: in the weeks after the Chuck remember calling so so yeah,
Speaker 1: so a lot of people called me and said different
Speaker 1: things to me. Um. But Nori called, and he called
Speaker 1: with zero judgment. He just said, I'm not calling to
Speaker 1: tell you about what you said. I'm calling to tell
Speaker 1: you that I was out and I heard people saying
Speaker 1: things about you negatively. That we're not the kind of
Speaker 1: people that I want to hear saying things about you negatively.
Speaker 1: These are not the people you want to be angry.
Speaker 1: I think you should apologize. And if you recall Nori
Speaker 1: as God is my witness, I said, sounds good. And
Speaker 1: the next day I said I gotta do something on
Speaker 1: the air today. And I went on the air and
Speaker 1: I said, I apologize. I did not think about how
Speaker 1: this would affect people and how it affects shop. And
Speaker 1: honestly it was a mistake, like be told. Whether people
Speaker 1: wanted to suck me up about it or not, it
Speaker 1: just wasn't the right thing to do. And sometimes you
Speaker 1: get you get lost in a moment and you want
Speaker 1: to defend the place that you work. And I should
Speaker 1: have put hip hop ahead of the station there and said, listen,
Speaker 1: that's Chuck d He's in rarefied air. If I disagree,
Speaker 1: just just disagree and shut the funk up. And I
Speaker 1: didn't do that in that moment. So I would say
Speaker 1: that was one spot where I sucked up, and also
Speaker 1: where I was very grateful to you for having that.
Speaker 1: We were friends at the time, and you know, and
Speaker 1: it's one more question after this because her we gotta
Speaker 1: because it brought me to another situation that we have
Speaker 1: to fix. But this was this one moment where you know,
Speaker 1: when you're my friend, you're my friend. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Right you go down the block, We're going ducking donuts
Speaker 1: and they say this is a ship donnut and you
Speaker 1: want to eat this ship donnut, I'm gonna say, don't
Speaker 1: eat this ship doughnut. After you eat this ship donut,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the guy to look around and say,
Speaker 1: don't make fun of him eating the ship don't. Right.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking foul friend. But I'm a lawyer friend.
Speaker 1: And when I saw that, because I knew that's not
Speaker 1: what your attention you was. God bless me for for
Speaker 1: saying this. It was like where they say in the
Speaker 1: work world, a company man. He was being a company
Speaker 1: which which which? Which? Was like it's like, al right, cool,
Speaker 1: Like you know most of us, you know who works
Speaker 1: for the bus company and tire comes off and they say, well,
Speaker 1: the bus company is a piece of ship. You say, no, well,
Speaker 1: I pick ninety nine tires, and ninety nine tires work.
Speaker 1: This is this one. You can't take this one thing
Speaker 1: out on the bus company. But what you don't know
Speaker 1: is there's people hired La, there's people in a little Haiti,
Speaker 1: there's people in Overtown, there's people in left right, there's
Speaker 1: people in Corona who bus company is fucked up. You understand,
Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of people may not understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but it's actually exactly right, exactly know
Speaker 1: my listeners understands. Maybe these guys don't they speak, they
Speaker 1: speaking speaking. Yeah, So I wanted you to do that,
Speaker 1: and I was so thankful that you did. I really was.
Speaker 1: I was thankful to you, bro. I was thankful because
Speaker 1: you know, um you said it earlier. Sometimes sometimes we
Speaker 1: speak from a place of privilege and we don't we
Speaker 1: don't know, because what then is privilege? Come with alert sign,
Speaker 1: you know. That's the people don't understand. They don't You
Speaker 1: don't know that you're speaking from privilege, Like you don't
Speaker 1: go to red lobster and it's your term for the table,
Speaker 1: go to give you a thing and go bepp like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like that you don't know,
Speaker 1: And then you look back and like wow, that was
Speaker 1: really Harry. But but now you have me nervous. What's
Speaker 1: the thing that you want to fix? So I gotta
Speaker 1: call my car and it sounds like about to getting
Speaker 1: some dece it's a little deep by the way amount
Speaker 1: as I have to go to w W tonight. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's I'm look, this is a room
Speaker 1: going around or what's going around. I listen. I'm not
Speaker 1: speaking about you because I have nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: I'm speaking about you because this man is here. I
Speaker 1: want to correct the rumor that man yeah here, no you,
Speaker 1: there's a rumor going around that you actually search for
Speaker 1: me to go at tax Stone. Okay, I can handle
Speaker 1: this one. I thought it could be something else, um like, No,
Speaker 1: it was. It was just misrepresented. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you're probably to blame for this, because how would tax
Speaker 1: have gotten information unless you said something. The whole story
Speaker 1: in one second is I don't even remember where me
Speaker 1: and tax got issues from. I know he said wild
Speaker 1: shit about me. He mentioned my ex wife like he
Speaker 1: did some wild ship. No, no, I know there was
Speaker 1: some wild ship that happened. I was worried. As I
Speaker 1: said earlier, I am from Chevy Chase, Maryland. I am
Speaker 1: not built for this. So I'm very clear, and it
Speaker 1: took me a couple of years to learn how to
Speaker 1: do what you're built for and what you're not built for.
Speaker 1: But now I know, and unlike a lot of people
Speaker 1: I move around was zero security. I lived very comfortably
Speaker 1: because I learned what the boundaries are and how you
Speaker 1: can just do what you do and not offend anyone.
Speaker 1: In this specific case, tax was coming at me. I
Speaker 1: did not know much about him. What I heard was
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, a street dude, knows the
Speaker 1: streets whatever. All the ship you just got to hear.
Speaker 1: I reached out to Nori and said, what do you
Speaker 1: know about this dude. The way the story has been
Speaker 1: retold was that I was like, yo, Nori, I'm putting
Speaker 1: that hit on. It's crazy. Thank you, because listen, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you said it. I can hit you up. It
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what to do with a
Speaker 1: little nerd. What happened was you asked me. I met
Speaker 1: him like two days later, and it was the CBS
Speaker 1: building or something like that, and I said to him,
Speaker 1: I said, well, no, he did the interview with him
Speaker 1: before that. No, all right, so all right, so didn't
Speaker 1: it was actually the interview because I said, or how
Speaker 1: we met, and like, I didn't know how you look obviously,
Speaker 1: so I give him a second hand. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm taxed. I said, oh, he asked me about you,
Speaker 1: and then it was it was like a joke. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Peter got no to try to get
Speaker 1: at me. So when he said that, I laughed, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't like serious to like run with it, like
Speaker 1: like he didn't call me like to say, Yo, go
Speaker 1: get this guy like all or you know. So I'm
Speaker 1: grateful for you telling that, because the way he told
Speaker 1: it was that I was like, yo, knowing send the shooters.
Speaker 1: It was to be very careful, let's be very careful.
Speaker 1: God bless tax because I will never ever ever go
Speaker 1: at anybody that in the camp the situation. I have
Speaker 1: all due respect, of all respect for you. It's just
Speaker 1: it was funny at the time. So I didn't correct
Speaker 1: it when he was home. I'm just correcting it now
Speaker 1: because the rumor keeps continuing. And if you, like you know,
Speaker 1: you called me, you did, you asked, you did ask
Speaker 1: about him, Let's just be clear. I did. And by
Speaker 1: the tax and I got cool tax and I had
Speaker 1: a cool conversation after that. Taxes. Actually I gotta give
Speaker 1: tax credit because we always give tax credit. So tax
Speaker 1: and I had our ship when we give him credit.
Speaker 1: He by the way, I'm gonna say the next thing
Speaker 1: I've ever said, No one's gonna hear it. But after
Speaker 1: the whole ship that we had when I was super
Speaker 1: upset about what he said about my ex wife. He
Speaker 1: called me and he apologized. He was cool. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's just out of bounds my ship. And again his
Speaker 1: ship was more with Ebro. I got more dragged into
Speaker 1: it whatever, and he was you know, he was very
Speaker 1: respectful and cool. And I think I was back as well,
Speaker 1: and we were cool. So when the ship came up
Speaker 1: a while ago, I was like, that story is not accurate.
Speaker 1: But I was just curious. I didn't know who he was,
Speaker 1: and I just hit you up to be like, yo,
Speaker 1: you were the guy. You were the guy who I
Speaker 1: knew who could tell me what was going on. You
Speaker 1: hit me up. And when I met him, I said, oh,
Speaker 1: ship Peter just asked about and he made a joke.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh ship because of I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess my reputation or what. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: she called to to get me again. Your fault to
Speaker 1: always norries loosen sidegon as my fault? How No, but
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get that straight. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: glad we did. I'm glad to big up to everybody
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