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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chess motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your

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Speaker 1: boy in or He's a Miami hippoper pioneer. Up is

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Speaker 1: d J e f N. Together they drink it up

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Speaker 1: with some of the biggest players in the most professional

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Speaker 1: unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk drink

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Speaker 1: motherfuck is New year Z. That's time for Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Trink up, motherfuck, motherfuck? What did good for you? Hold these?

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Speaker 1: It's your boy and what up is d J E

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Speaker 1: f and his Drink Chess motherfucker yap Yalla makes a look. Now,

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Speaker 1: this guy is when you talk about a person who

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Speaker 1: got in the game, belongs in the game, and stays

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Speaker 1: in the game. He started out, I want to say,

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Speaker 1: as an Internet troll, that's what they say when you

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Speaker 1: google when you kind of kinda kinda Then he started

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Speaker 1: doing like weird Vaden Weeko, like making songs over his name.

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Speaker 1: He s doing songs over then then then he then

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Speaker 1: he somehow got on Hot ninety seven. Then from there

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Speaker 1: he's got on the most powerful show on Hot ninety

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Speaker 1: seven and he still controls the show on Hot ninety

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Speaker 1: seven Corps still late. What's he dropped the album? Which

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Speaker 1: is the most I felt broke immediately listening to the

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Speaker 1: album really really made you feel like something about listening

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Speaker 1: to the album, Yes, this guy, this guy represents real,

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Speaker 1: real hip hop. Later on, not only has he had

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Speaker 1: the hip hop, but then he went on to w

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Speaker 1: W E. I know he got WrestleMania belt in his

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Speaker 1: pocket right now. Lost it? No, I lost the title,

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Speaker 1: but I had. That's not hard. Not only does it

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Speaker 1: get w W E checks, he also gets ESP and

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Speaker 1: Walt Disney checks. That's the reason why he's a smoker.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna smoke today, is watch. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: we have to thank him because at the beginning we

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Speaker 1: thought the word podcast was just means nerd. It did

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Speaker 1: and if it wasn't for you on your half safe

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Speaker 1: of sounds me and if and probably would be sitting

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Speaker 1: here right now today. So we want to thank you

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Speaker 1: tell your face because you are indeed the pod fall.

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Speaker 1: I I appreciate that very much. So me and you

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Speaker 1: are friends. Were we were great, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't know how you started was you remaking records over.

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Speaker 1: So I had been in radio for a long time

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Speaker 1: and I was fired from radio many times. And on

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Speaker 1: one of these occasions that I got fired from radio,

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Speaker 1: I started doing a podcast, which was even this is

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Speaker 1: years before one app so podcasts were nothing, I mean

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Speaker 1: being basically I mean just after kind of. And then

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Speaker 1: I started making some YouTube videos and I made some

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Speaker 1: silly ass parodies and right around that time, so you

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Speaker 1: were weird. That was I did I did. I did

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Speaker 1: a cover of Jim Jones balling, called bowling bowling terrible

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Speaker 1: but but kind of good in a terrible way. And

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Speaker 1: then I did one about Duke basketball that got really big,

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Speaker 1: like that ship really hit. I dropped it the week

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Speaker 1: the torn It was one of those rare times in

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Speaker 1: But isn't a duke from NC, correct, So I thought

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Speaker 1: hated Duke at the time. That rivalry was crazy. So

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Speaker 1: I made this video. We dropped it the day the

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Speaker 1: tournament started, so I sent it out to everyone, and

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Speaker 1: everyone when they sent there like you know, they're betting

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Speaker 1: pool emails. Everyone who hates Duke, which is everyone who

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Speaker 1: didn't go to Duke all forwarded this ship around and

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Speaker 1: it ended up getting a million views, which in those

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Speaker 1: it was fucking gigantic. So then I get a phone

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Speaker 1: call for someone and he's like, yo, um uh, this dude,

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Speaker 1: Ebro wants to talk to you. He's seen your videos. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now Ebro is the PD at the time or empty

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Speaker 1: who don't know he was next to the Days. Later,

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Speaker 1: I read in one of the trades Ebro Darden named

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Speaker 1: program director. So I'm like, oh, ship, the guy who

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Speaker 1: ebro Um invites me up to eighty seven. Now keep

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Speaker 1: I go see Ebro and he's like, yo, I want

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Speaker 1: And this is Miss Jones an afternoon or Misses in

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Speaker 1: I come up there, I go to do Miss Jones show.

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Speaker 1: And she doesn't like you. That is the kindest way

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Speaker 1: of putting. She did not funk with me at all. Um.

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Speaker 1: I got up there and Envy was with her, and

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Speaker 1: thank god for Envy, who was like, yo, bro accommodating

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Speaker 1: welcoming Miss Jones. He was like, you probably shouldn't even

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Speaker 1: She just didn't vite with you. It was she she thought.

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Speaker 1: She came up to me and she was like afterwards,

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Speaker 1: was probably right, right. I mean, you guys bringing me

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Speaker 1: I'm home and Ebro calls me, and I remember I

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Speaker 1: was standing, he's a guy back. Good news and bad news.

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Speaker 1: Bad news is the Miss Jones thing is not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I really didn't think that would work

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Speaker 1: you do a Sunday Night show where you play like

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Speaker 1: you know, you're like underground hip hop. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: that was the greatest phone call in my life. That

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Speaker 1: Mike was my I grew up on just wanting to

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Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, you picked the music. We'll do

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Speaker 1: some video stuff. You can make some video content for us,

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Speaker 1: and uh. And that was it, because that's what's interesting

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Speaker 1: about the album When when I hear it, it's like,

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Speaker 1: Fat Joe said, you know, every producer, every radio personality,

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Speaker 1: So it's a particular way how comic makes his music.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I was a particular way how you

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Speaker 1: why why wouldn't you like, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: anybody would give you a verse, right, because because they

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Speaker 1: want to be on on on a brow in the morning. Right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so for for most part, let's just say for the

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it the way I feel it fit.

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Speaker 1: What makes you do that? I just don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just I've made I had tried to make some commercial

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Speaker 1: on it right now. So vibes Cartel French Montana record.

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Speaker 1: It's fucking awesome. It's produced by Harry Fraud. It's to me,

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Speaker 1: it's a fucking Eastern Parkway, you know, later that weekend

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Speaker 1: get people want to be on your ship. So about

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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, two years ago, I

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Speaker 1: started listening to my boy, this dude named top Shelf Premium.

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Speaker 1: That's his his Instagram account. He's a vintage closed dealer

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like people who when they

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Speaker 1: all of the ship together. He's got gholst Face, got

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Speaker 1: an old king. Pret was my favorite back then getting

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Speaker 1: Kalin like I respect Kalin, I love him personally. I

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Speaker 1: you know, like it's for me. I wasn't about scoring

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Speaker 1: the biggest names. It was like the thing I'm most

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Speaker 1: think all these cats work together and we're in a

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Speaker 1: the beast at my correctness is a perfect Like that's

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm assuming that you're like, this album is

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Speaker 1: I's been in his house and out on East Side

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Speaker 1: West Side, by the way, my apartment now is way

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Speaker 1: It's all bus I said. I just hope one day

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Speaker 1: fucking real late album you dropped. That ship was fucking

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Speaker 1: Her next album was the next I think the next

424
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: one was Pink Friday or was it Pink Print. I

425
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: love how you grabbed the phone thinking instead of thinking

426
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 1: how we used to do it so fucked up. It's

427
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: so fund up that you are literally correct. That is

428
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: what I do now all albums. At this point, you're

429
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: taking credit for that next album. You know you're a

430
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: good radio host. It was it was she no Pink

431
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: Friday Roman Reloaded might have been the one with starships

432
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: on it, so it would have been the next one, um,

433
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: which was um the pink Print. Okay, um No, I'm

434
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: not taking credit and I try efn. You've really developed

435
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: White the host. However, I do think that there that

436
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: that sis you a shan maybe impacted her on to

437
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: some level, and she was like y'at into the hip

438
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: hop ship. And let's be honest in subconsciously nicky with

439
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: bart but we all want to I can't lie when

440
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: I love her. I love her singing. I love her

441
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: doing the pop ship because me being from Queens and

442
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: no one where you know she comes from, I know

443
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: what that's secured in the bag. But at the end

444
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: of the day, I do love when when she spits.

445
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: But a part of me, you know, to be honest,

446
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: like I said, when I've heard from her, like the

447
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: first five records of the album, I was like, it

448
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: reminded me of the days where I got nowhere. So sorry,

449
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: you know that is the It was disrespect and it's

450
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: thought because it's what got you where you want, the

451
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: war reports, and they got me nowhere. Nor to the reports, no, no,

452
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: prior to the war report. Not to actually worry port,

453
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: but prior to the war report. What it is is

454
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: when you were yo boils your y buzzle without the

455
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: buzzle well, by the way, and by the way, your

456
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: war report is the most hardcore underground should ever my

457
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: ship sounds like the pink print next, I mean like

458
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: like you don't get a twitch to story. You dropped

459
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: the hardest album of Oh No. But I literally listened

460
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: to your joint and I was like, wow, I just

461
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: uh Fat Scoop had a late night show before. It

462
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: reminded me of that, like the late night show with

463
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: Fat Man's school, like pre Case Slay, pre Case Slay.

464
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, I'm not saying the

465
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: album saying me like when I was when I was

466
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: making that type of music, making it that way, I

467
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: just couldn't get nowhere. And that's the thing is like

468
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: you know nas is Uh, it's a unicorn so to speak. Uh,

469
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: Kendrick is a unicorn. J Cole. It's a camouflage unicorn.

470
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 1: Like the way he's a camouflage unicorn like I've never

471
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: even heard of. It was like the way the way

472
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: cold spits and he gets nice and nice as he

473
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: makes more money and more money. Um no, he's getting

474
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: drunk right now. We're doing shots next. Um yeah. It

475
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: was that water, holy water. He said, you asked for water, right,

476
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: that is that water? Is it not? Spread? We didn't

477
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: have water? You can we can find a water. So

478
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna make you some systems. So my I guess

479
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: my question is and it's gonna sound funked up with me.

480
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: Because I believe in lyrics. I come for it, But

481
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: why should this young generation really believe in it? Like,

482
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: I know I could get this coming back, but why Okay?

483
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: So I have that okay, because the difference is in

484
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: your era it was very hard. You might get an

485
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: ill labeled deal, which is interesting case you get this

486
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: upfront money ballah, but then where do you go from there?

487
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: The beauty is now, Nori. You can be a middle

488
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: class or upper upper middle class rapper. You can be

489
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: a guy who who who his stream ships on a

490
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: medium level and label needed and radio playe needed. You know,

491
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: you don't even need a radio song, and you go

492
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: do shows and you can do five hundred theaters all

493
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: year round, travel, make money to Europe, Go to Europe,

494
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: go to Japan. So like, I actually think the opportunity

495
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: for the artists that are on my record, it's better

496
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: now than it ever was in your day. Because even

497
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: when you were putting out the most hardcore ship, you

498
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: still were hoping, well, don't play and watch people do

499
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: they even hear it as somewhere else? Like that that's

500
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: the crazy ship. Like, but there was a monopoly by

501
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: the record labels to get this music out and sold.

502
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: You gotta realize, if I didn't go to that place,

503
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, Like I didn't know anybody played.

504
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Like literally, I did not know people played my record

505
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: in Virginia. I literally even know people may pay my

506
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: record in d C. Because if I didn't actually get there,

507
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: there was no way for me to do that. And

508
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: if the record labels knew it, they weren't telling me.

509
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: So I thought I was hot in New York City,

510
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: the whole word. Boy, I never knew people in Jamaica,

511
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: not Jamaica Queens is listening to this ship. I didn't

512
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: know that. So, like the algorithms, all that ship didn't

513
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: exist right now, and now it does. So I do

514
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: think we're still not getting the technical numbers, like when

515
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: we're looking at the streams and all that. And also

516
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: and also yeah, like you and believe me, I can

517
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: tell like I can already tell that my streams are

518
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a harder ride than it is for some people.

519
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: You can see the system so rigged. Because my ship

520
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: is organic. My ship is getting listened to the amount

521
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: of is not organic. Listen to it twice today is yeah,

522
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: like I saw it said it said one listen to Miami.

523
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: I'm like, dad, it was I listened. I got to yesterday.

524
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: You know, yesterday I felt he listened to half okay,

525
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: so so but all right, so you said lyricists and

526
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: al right, cool, you know when I you know, it's

527
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: the l thing. The other day, I'm sitting there just

528
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: randomly listening to my I pod, which is my iPhone,

529
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: just got songs don't repeat, excuse me on shuffle, and

530
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: these NAS songs come on and I literally can't picture

531
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: these beats without NAS on there, which was different like

532
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: right now, I heard some but do so I think

533
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: it was t pay and say, yo, we should just

534
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: think the produces right now because the beat is hard,

535
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: We're not no one's really paying attention. They pay attention

536
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: of melody. But is that something that's a problem. Like

537
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: back then, the beat would be of it, The lyrics

538
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: would literally be the other fifty percent of the beat.

539
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: Right now, we're just listening to the melody. And and

540
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: because you play a lot of it, yeah, we do

541
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: in the morning. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I'm

542
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: embarrassed to say how little of it I know in

543
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: the Morning, like I have become that guy. Like I'm scared.

544
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't even want to give Ebro the idea of like,

545
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: let's quiz Rosenberg on what we're playing right now, because

546
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: I really unless I hear pop smokes voice, I've been

547
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: listening a Little Baby, I don't know who the funk

548
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: we're playing. I've been listening to Corey right for a month.

549
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea that was. I didn't know she

550
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: talking about my man has been. I knew that almost

551
00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: in this record, I didn't know, like it's I think

552
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: it's It's not that I think it's bad um at all.

553
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, people enjoy it. It's and and by the way,

554
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: there are great rappers right like I think Little Baby

555
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: is a great rapper, right little Baby, um, the Baby,

556
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: the Baby Baby and has ill Baby. It's an interesting guy.

557
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: But a little Baby is like an MC. A little

558
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Baby can wrap his ass off. And he's on the

559
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: Coal album. He bodies the Coal album. You know, I

560
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: think Roddy Rich is an ill in general, you know,

561
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: with everything he does. So it's not about that you

562
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: have to be rapping in a traditional sense. I just

563
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: I just want to see ship be creative. And don't

564
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: and like you know, sometimes there's good Ship and Black

565
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Front Cold Black by the way, yeah, I have even

566
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: Cold Black both, y'all. Yeah, he doesn't matter me. Yeah,

567
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: but by the way, I was very into Kodak's music.

568
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: I love that Patty Cake ship so much, like that record,

569
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: so ill, like no, Kodaks pretty ill, to be honest

570
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: with you, he's ill. Awkward moment, but I'll i'll, i'll rapper.

571
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them that I think are really dope.

572
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: But listen, I'm always gonna t J. T J is dope.

573
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: A little t joke with c J. I've always hell

574
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: with c J two. But I mean I'm not looking

575
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: far and Fabrio Fabio far fly you know, you know,

576
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like you, just like you actually got it

577
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: right for you? Who was five years dream Doll? I

578
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: love dream Doll, Dream Dolls dope. Actually she can wraps him. Um,

579
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: it's it's about it's about who has the story though,

580
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: who's really interested? You too? You too much into wrestling

581
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: in boxing. That's that's what's real, you know, what's crazy thing.

582
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: It was a great show on HBO called twenty four seven.

583
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's great and I don't know if you remember.

584
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: They would take seven, would take the most non interested

585
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: person true and make him interested. And I agree with

586
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: you to a certain stip, but I don't want us

587
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: to create the story because that's the only thing seven

588
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: I would be mad at is they would take a

589
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: note interested in person, make him interested in and then

590
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: seven is old the person is not interesting again. The

591
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: thing is, I want to just to get you don't

592
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: wanta watch the fight, would just gives you to watch

593
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: and fight. The thing is, I wanted people to create

594
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: the real narratives, take the real narratives and do that.

595
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: And so that's what you're saying, these rappers are not

596
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: having a story, right, I think, I think, I think

597
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: they may have stories, but social media makes it look

598
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: like all their stories are the same. It's not that

599
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's what it's not going to carbon copy.

600
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: It's not that I think none of them are interesting

601
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: or have a live a life to speak of. It's

602
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: just like, because of social media and everyone basically doing

603
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: the same thing, Like, there's never gonna be a time

604
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: in my life when I don't find holding up money

605
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: in a in an Instagram story stupid. Never like no

606
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: matter how young or old I was. The idea that

607
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: cats are showing money to the world to me is

608
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: the craziest thing on earth. And and also, and then,

609
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: not only is it stupid and dangerous, but it's boring.

610
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: It's fucking boring. It's not that and what is it?

611
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: A company? Ain't gonna see me do it because I

612
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: ain't got it. I ain't got it. Well you know, actually,

613
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: actually Mayhem Loren has a line on my album. He

614
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: says he says something like autot hold autot hold money

615
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: to my heir, but best believe I got it. It's

616
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: like it just doesn't make sense to me. But more importantly,

617
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: from an artistic standpoint, I don't find it interesting. Like

618
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think a lot of people

619
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: have been, whether they admit it or not, annoyed with

620
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: how much I supported Kendrick. I've heard about that constantly

621
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: throughout my career, anoyed that you support him early on

622
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: to the They're annoyed that I went as hard as

623
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: I did there. Actually I believe the word that Lupe

624
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: used was nuth hugger. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, But but

625
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: the thing is champaign cup to I have I okay,

626
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: what do you guys do? Drink shout? I want you

627
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: guys to know I will do one shot, but oh no, no,

628
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: if that's for I'm not yea, what is it you're

629
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: giving me to? Hey, man, you can pick it. You

630
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: can pick your poison. Man, this is this is hip hop.

631
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know. You're on a hip

632
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: hop show. So it's a drinking hip hop ship. It's

633
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: just man, Yeah we did, we're doing it's some yeah, yeah, yeah,

634
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: coming to get to my mind? Your minds already all right? Cool?

635
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: You got yours, Peter worlds where we don't know what

636
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: you know. But our show is about giving people their flowers.

637
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Why they can smell them. They roses when they could

638
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: they can tell them. They drinks when they get the

639
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: hell them, and they smoke when they can sell them.

640
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got it all wrong, said you

641
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: know what I called you personally. I wanted you to

642
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: be here because it's time for you to get your

643
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: motherfucking flowers. By the way, on Dream Chaps, we had

644
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, fifty cent hair nas hair popped out of here.

645
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: You're the only one who's who's telling us what amount

646
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: of the shot to you us and telling us where

647
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: them mount. So at some point we're gonna break this.

648
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. We're gonna I just watched Cameron

649
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: turned down drinks for three hours. He and Cam had beef.

650
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: He squashed it on the end. You don't have beef.

651
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: We did, we did. We had a brief beat brief.

652
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember this, don't. You don't remember either, you would.

653
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: All I know is something happened. You were trying to set.

654
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: We were trying to arrange something and somehow you thought

655
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: I was fucking blocking in some way. And all I

656
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: know is I was on set. It was very vague. Man,

657
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: I wish I remember something, but something, so you don't

658
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: remember either. So I was. All I know was I

659
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: was on set at Hip Hop Squares and he was

660
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: calling me like off, like I'm gonna come through. And

661
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: we were already cool at this point. You know, we

662
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: flipped on me. It was one of those things. I

663
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: thought we were good and it was a full nor

664
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: even and I know we made it was cool and

665
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: the end, I know you were wrong and we made

666
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: it was all good because I remember going to Hollywood

667
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: Squares and I think that's the first time you met

668
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Amber Rows That sounds right, Yes, Amber was there. All

669
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: I know is he was mad at me and thought,

670
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: you know a lot of times ship happens it hot,

671
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: and because I'm the person people are cool with or no,

672
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: they get upset. That's I just keeps bobbing bottled by myself.

673
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: You know. They I think when ship goes left it hot,

674
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: they can take it out on the people that they know.

675
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I really I wish I was a

676
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: boss sometimes, but like I'm not, Like I really show

677
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: up and just do my job and I talk and

678
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: do my do my thing. So I remember when one

679
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: year Summer Jam Travis Scott called me at ten am

680
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, Rosemberg, Yo, rosembert, I need to figure

681
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: out my fucking lights. They don't, they won't, they won't

682
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: hit me back. I'm trying to have a fucking crane

683
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah. And I was like, Travis,

684
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: you think I know what the production. So I was like,

685
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: here's Ebro's number, go ahead and call him. I do

686
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: not do Summer Jim. But I don't think people understand that,

687
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Like they just assume my name's Rosenberg. I've been there

688
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: a long time. I can get ship done, but I'm

689
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: really the who's My job has always been to just

690
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: be myself, and that's why I'm incredibly blessed for the

691
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: job I have. But I don't wield fucking power at

692
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: HOT except to play the records I want to play

693
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: bro if I wield it. If I wielded power at Hot,

694
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: the playlist would look a lot different than it looks

695
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: right now. Right you ever they ever try to pay

696
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: you to play a record? People have? Yeah, people have?

697
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: And that was a subscribe a situation. You at Houston's

698
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: only been to the New York Houston's like once, um,

699
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, by the way, and the and they don't

700
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: it's not on the menu. But that fried chicken salad,

701
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: the chicken tender salad not on the menu. It's crazy.

702
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Connected comes with me? So you said pay a lot? Yeah,

703
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: so I've only had to happen a couple of times.

704
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: How does this happen? You're a red lost and that No,

705
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: it was actually it's all of fin outside of ninety

706
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: seven is but that's the craziest part on camera. Yeah,

707
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, First of all, I don't take money

708
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: for records, never have, never will. Second of all, you're

709
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: walking up to me outside the front door. I don't

710
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: know what ship used to be like, but that's fucking insane.

711
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: But I made a deal with myself, just like I

712
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: don't even have to. I would never play a whack record.

713
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: I always say to people, if they want to pay

714
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: me to play a record, I would say, if you

715
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: send me some ship that I like, I will play

716
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: the record. I don't money, I can Mr Lea who

717
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Spanish guys, the others loudest ones here. You gotta relax.

718
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, Power one of five is going at it

719
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: with going out of probably on five blah blah blah blah.

720
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: There's this list. We don't know if this exists or

721
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: not right, but some somehow Flex gets a hold of

722
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: this list from what I heard, and he beat up

723
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: with all the DJs, whether they bowed one on five

724
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: or they had ninety seven, and he flips on them

725
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: and he goes, yo, man, you know we all should

726
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: be getting enough money that we should not be taking money.

727
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: One and then two because Young and May second single,

728
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: I didn't get pushed because they said that dj is

729
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: in New York didn't play it. Have you ever heard

730
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: this story? I have never heard this because of what

731
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: because because they didn't get the bag. They got the

732
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: bag one of the back from from from duck down

733
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: all let say from Drew h Yeah. It was crazy

734
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: because what was young Inmate's first single? Oh so I

735
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: guess the way all time classic? Let we need to

736
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: pay for the last, don't you? Bobby Shmartin back to

737
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: back moment was fine. So this is a rumor. This

738
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: is you probably not you know, they don't probably see yeah, yeah, yeah,

739
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: So they went to this is the room. Okay, let's

740
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: step to everyone from Power say had a meeting. He

741
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: had a doulabi and like a DJ luminati me did you?

742
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: And it was addressed like yo whoop. And one of

743
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: the main reasons was we had a New York star,

744
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: you know, Younger May and who was it? Who? Number one?

745
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: Whatever they had to do. But the second single came

746
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: and every DJ felt like they didn't want to play it.

747
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: This is the rumor you never remember correctly. That second

748
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: single was pretty dope. It was pretty dope. I think

749
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: Younger May is pretty dope period. But what I'm saying

750
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: is I'm just bringing that up to say have you

751
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: ever dealt with that type of ship, because of course,

752
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, for us New York, we ran the world.

753
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard for us to sit back and

754
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: watch Atlanta. It's kind of hard for us to sit

755
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: back and watch any anybody in a certain state doing

756
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: what they gotta do. And when we're not at the

757
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: fore front. But then we realize that we're here. That's

758
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: a reason why there's certain people who want to be

759
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: paid Like, I think that when it comes from your

760
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: own I think that should never be approached. Obviously, I'm

761
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: just giving you, actually your opinion. Yeah, it's because the

762
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: way this is so boring that my answer is I

763
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: have no idea, And I know I can already see

764
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: the YouTube comments you have fucking right, you don't know

765
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: you're the worst. Yeah, you're the one. You're that's because

766
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: your father owns the whole radio station. Yeah, oh I

767
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: get it all. How do your industry plan? How did

768
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: you get My mom was a kindergarten teacher. She hooked

769
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: me up. But I've never been close to that ship. Whatever. Now,

770
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: I've heard stories from back in the day, just like

771
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: you ask me questions. No, I know for a fact,

772
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: And please remember what I said, because they'll kill me

773
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: for cutting you off. I know for a fact Phone

774
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: maxter Flex is not do it. I've tried any which

775
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: way shape from the fact. From I've tried to buy

776
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: a car Rims off of him. I thought a bit

777
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: anyway safe for him complex one million percent his integrity.

778
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: If he likes my record, he's gonna play it. If

779
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't like my record, he's gonna say I don't

780
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: like it, He'll still play it. Once it's no bombs,

781
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: there's no he's very very very suddenly. But when he

782
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: does like my record, he goes in and so I

783
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: can never be mad when he likes somebody else's record.

784
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: But continue, I have never seen it, never heard of it.

785
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: And frankly, if people say that, I think it's excuse

786
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: making like we need to we need to be better

787
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: in New York. We need to make better music. That's

788
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: the issue. Hold on, my brother's call him okay cool?

789
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: You know Nick, I'm on drink Drink Champs right now.

790
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: You want to say anything on drink Champs? Yeah? Yeah,

791
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: at Nick had going on, Ni going on the guy

792
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: who got me into hip hop girls? Can I call

793
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: you back? What are you guys talking about nor Is

794
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: asking me how can I go into a conversation be

795
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: like space something. He no, No, Nick, I'm telling him

796
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: the story about how our family is in the Illuminati

797
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: and how I got the job at seven because Dad

798
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: rules the word. I'll call you back after that. We

799
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: talk about I'm so into it. No the pay, all

800
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: the stuff. Never say a secret DJ meeting. I believe

801
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: it's excuse making I believe that New York just for

802
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: a while wasn't making hot. Ship you as a fact

803
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: what you're saying as a room. But FLEs had a

804
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: meeting and told everyone you cannot take money for records.

805
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: This this. He was disappointed. I heard that he had

806
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: a tear in his eye because because of he didn't

807
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: he didn't know that people were actually doing that. And

808
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: when he realized that, she came up with another record

809
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: and he was the only one playing the godess you're saying,

810
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: you're saying that something like that, I'm paraphrasing something. So

811
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: basically they funked with you because it was hot. But

812
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: on the next one they like, now you gotta pay this.

813
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that well that would be a fucking disgrace, And

814
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: we did anyone would deserve whatever they get for that.

815
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know anyone like I gotta tell

816
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: you guys like the DJs, your friends with all of them,

817
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: like you know from Safe Camillo enough cast trends. Like

818
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: everyone I know up there has been a straight dude,

819
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: like a straight up food since I got there. No,

820
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: but there's something let's be clear. We're naming the naming

821
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: the good cops. That's like it's like when you the

822
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: good cops on the Officer Das. There's a lot of bad.

823
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: But let's be honest here and this is DJ is

824
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: more integrity. But this is the thing what was created

825
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: for DJ's to create some kind of situation that benefits somebody.

826
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: Is the DJ Cruise. Yes, and the DJ Cruise is

827
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: like mafia ship because you gotta get DMX first album

828
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: listening party. It was all heavy hit. This that was

829
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: definitely the Columbo family that it may not be hail it,

830
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: but it was something like that with but no, No,

831
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: that's true because the cruise make it complicated because you

832
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: want a whole crew to support your record, you know,

833
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: and listen, I'm sure I'm gonna encounter that right now.

834
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be just hitting up every DJ at randomly

835
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: myself being like, hey, is there anything you can play

836
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: on this No, but listen, I can't ever condone a

837
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: DJ doing some ship. I've been on my own fucking

838
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: island bro playing the music I'm gonna play for. I

839
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: can't believe they let me do it for thirteen years.

840
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: I've never been paid for my Sunday Night Joe. I

841
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: make my own playlist. No one says a fucking word.

842
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: I have never Oh, no, I did. I had one

843
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: little period where they started telling me I needed to

844
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: play hits in my show. I forgot. I was you know,

845
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: I forgot that happened. And for about a year they

846
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: were like, send us the playlists. It was because of

847
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: a whack boss. We had, not not ebro some like

848
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: a whack dude who was there. Yes, there was a

849
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: period where they were like, you need to on Sundays.

850
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: We want to make sure that we're spending other records too.

851
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: So I played along with them for like six months,

852
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: and then slowly but surely they forgot. A new person

853
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: came in and I'm no one bothers me about my ship,

854
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: and I'm very grateful. Like on Sundays, I literally can

855
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: shill in my house and be like, what am I playing?

856
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: You know, like when X passed got Rest of Dead,

857
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I was able to be like, I'm gonna do an

858
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: hour of X on late night and yeah, and I'm

859
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna play the most random ship that people don't remember.

860
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: I can tell them what late night, what time it

861
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: comes on till every if you're in New York or

862
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, you can stream it every Sunday

863
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: night midnight Eastern, so it's Sunday into Monday midnights too.

864
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: And I get to do whatever the funk I want.

865
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I've done it now for thirteen years, and you know, listen,

866
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: it's a weird time to get to have this gig,

867
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Like this isn't the Glory Years. I'm not. I'm not

868
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: stretching Bob. I'm never gonna be viewed to stretching Bob

869
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: because this isn't the Glory you know, the the era,

870
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: the Golden Years. Stretching Bob. Before we go to a

871
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: quick time of flying, I thought we're going to commercial. No, no, no, no,

872
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: what glory is? Okay, It's just it's not. That's not

873
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: the time I've been in. Unfortunately, I've been on at

874
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: the time actually where everyone's kind of moved on from

875
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: the Golden era, and I've been the dude who continues

876
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: to try to put my flag down for the ship

877
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: that I love while growing the times. You know, I've

878
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: supported all the biggest artists and not all, but a

879
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: lot of the biggest artists in that over the last decade,

880
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, from Cole to Kendrick to Matt Miller. God

881
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: blessed the dead. Earl sweatshirt logic, a lot of it,

882
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: there's been a ton of I played Odd Future for

883
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: the first time. I played Frank. When you Google, you

884
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: say that you first person to play earl sweat shorts

885
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: and had an interview? Would the first interview ever with

886
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: the earl sweatshirt Like I was trying. I was waiting

887
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: for him to get back from Samoa, like that was

888
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: you know when those guys are fucking Tyler's a Grammy

889
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: winning legend. Yeah, yeah, you know, I think in the

890
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: exact same way. He's amazing because he's gonna do everything.

891
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: I know I've been talking about him, But he's the

892
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: should neglect perspective. He's artists that you are, But that's

893
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: putting on because what he's saying with all the lyrics

894
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: and this is that, No, you don't know the type

895
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: of artists that can come out of the early odd future.

896
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: Ship was the dirtiest, grimiest ship ever. Now granted it

897
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: was they were sort of playing characters and they and

898
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: Tyler knew what he was doing, but the bottle line,

899
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: it's musically. If you go back and watch their first videos,

900
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: they're fucking breaking, teeth, bleeding and doing crazy ship in

901
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: the videos. It was some real It reminded me of

902
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: some fucking Onyx but m O P. We're gonna really

903
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: push the boundaries. Fuck you of this is everything and

904
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It was refreshing what they would do. No,

905
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: it was, and so listen. The fact is I've lived

906
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: a while while my radio show I don't think has

907
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: ever gotten the glory and flowers that I would have

908
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: liked it too. Though, I'm deeply appreciative of you guys

909
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: who have always treated me that way. It means a

910
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: lot to me. And there are pockets of people who

911
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: treat me that way. Did he has always been that way,

912
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: bust U Swizz like there are guys, the guys who

913
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: spend time in New York because they drive around like

914
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: did he The reason didn't I have a relationship is

915
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: because did he used to drive around at night and

916
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: people don't know that did He's a fucking head and

917
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: he'd be like, Yo, what is the ship to your

918
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: What did you play at twelve? You know? So it

919
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: was shipped like that, That's how you discovered So yeah,

920
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: he's he still has that mentality to some degree. So

921
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: while I didn't always get like, you know, I don't

922
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: necessarily always get the stretch and Bob treatment of like, oh,

923
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: thank God for Peter Rosenberg. Ultimately my life has been

924
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: filled with so many blessings because oh Asap Mob, They're

925
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: a great example. Rocky always heaps praise on me. Bronson

926
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: always does too, and I'm super grateful for the ones

927
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: who always the New York you know, Bronson's queens all day,

928
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: Rocky and Ferger fucking Harlem. Those cats kind of understand

929
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: it because they knew what it meant to hear it

930
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: on the radio. Still, we live in an era and

931
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: now we're not for it doesn't mean the same thing

932
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: for everyone, But the fact is the fact that I

933
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: got to be around these guys, you know, like Childish Gambino,

934
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: who I've played on the radio for the first time

935
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: to Gambino is one of the most brilliant minds and

936
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: entertainment period. You know what I'm saying, Macmillan, good, I

937
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: want to be my god. What's going on? I auditioned

938
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: for Atlanta, didn't get on really. They asked me to

939
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: audition for an episode of Atlanta at the very beginning.

940
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you the story because you're gonna

941
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: love this. I'm gonna working to launch you. Matt So.

942
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: I hope your listeners appreciate and I know they do

943
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: because y'all right now, but I hope I hope listeners

944
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: appreciate the level of that one lineup that was dead pain.

945
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in a laundry um so so

946
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: Gambino and fam Uh. They hit me up and they're like, hey,

947
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: we're putting on a TV show. We want you to

948
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: audition for a part. I'm like, okay, cool. He sends

949
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: me the script. I read the script. It happened. It's

950
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: episode one of Atlanta playing a radio DJ. I look

951
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: at the script. I read it. I look at my

952
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: ex wife at the time, I'm like, they have the

953
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: N word in here. I call fam Gambino's manager. I'm like, yo, guys,

954
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: you put the N word in the fucking script. I

955
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: don't say the N word. He goes it's called acting.

956
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, fuck you, all right,

957
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: let me think about it. So I spent days thinking

958
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: about what I was gonna do. Should I do it?

959
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: Should I not do it? How would it play? What

960
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: is the breakfast Club gonna do with the audio when

961
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: the episode airs? And by the way, I would have

962
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: been playing a radio personality. How many people are gonna

963
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: believe it's just real? So I waived this out. I

964
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: talked to Ebro, I talked to my boy Shanny Culture.

965
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, what should I do? I'm not even comfortable.

966
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: I've never said I know this sounds crazy and people

967
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: don't believe it. I haven't said that word. My parents

968
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: raised me from the very beginning. Makes some noise for you.

969
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: My parents I used to shame. I used to shame

970
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: other children if I ever heard it, Like, I just

971
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: was like, my I didn't even understand. I don't understand that.

972
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: My parents just said, that's the word. You don't say.

973
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: So so I talked to everybody about them, like I'm

974
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: not even comfortable doing this. So I talked to you

975
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: Braun Sean. Everyone's like, bro, you got it if you.

976
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I think this show is gonna be legendary,

977
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: though legendary, and they're like, I knew. I knew it was.

978
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: It was Donald show. I knew. So I decided to

979
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: do it. I decided to do it. I practice it

980
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: and practicing it. I only felt comfortable practicing it with

981
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: black people. I was like, I'm not gonna sit around

982
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: with another white person and practice saying the end word.

983
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: So I my boyshotty culture sounds mad awkward already, but

984
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: I was like, if I'm gonna have to do this thing,

985
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: we're I'm not gonna do this secluded with white people.

986
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying getting comfortable with this. So I practiced it.

987
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: I could tell he was like, this isn't that believable?

988
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: And I did the audition, didn't get the part. I

989
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: ran into FAM. I'm like, so what happened? He was like,

990
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe he's saying the N word. I

991
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: was like, bro, I told you. He was like, it's

992
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: just your two nice a guy. Because if you remember

993
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: episode one, basically the DJ seems like, hey, I'm a

994
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: cool DJ, and then he drops the N word because

995
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: he's a douchebag, and I just wasn't able to pull

996
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: off the douchebag. In retrospect, it was for the best

997
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: who winds up doing it? And yeah, it wasn't a DJ,

998
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: but it was like keV came in, you know, like

999
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: it was no, it wasn't a DJ. So in the end,

1000
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: I think it's probably best it didn't happen. But I'm

1001
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I did want to be part of

1002
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: that show because I knew it was history. Like I

1003
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: knew this show was gonna be that's fine, icon, that's fine.

1004
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: So now this is a part of the show we

1005
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: called quick Time of Slid, quick Timer Slung quick Time time. Yeah.

1006
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: So you're yeah, but you get it's just one other

1007
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: and you're quick yeah. Yeah. You gotta be boys, you

1008
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: gotta yeah. So it's one or the other. But if

1009
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: you want to pick both, it's great, but you gotta

1010
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: take a shot. It's just the way it happens. We'll

1011
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: get you every everyone, everyone, everyone, Nasa jay Z shot

1012
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: shots shot. You pick both. You take a shot, and

1013
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: you can't really explain much. You just gotta sorr. I'm

1014
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: already running it. I'm already sucking it up. It's cooled

1015
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: quick tim jay z J okay, alright, cool, alright, cool,

1016
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that barely barely okay, respect or loyalty, loyalty, alright,

1017
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: DMX or Tupac getting your shot ready. I don't think

1018
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: you could pick either. I mean, I think I know

1019
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: what he's gonna know. I'm who's gonna pick. Well, it's

1020
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: this is hard. It depends on what thing you're looking for.

1021
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: But for me personally, when it comes to music, DMX, okay, alright, cool,

1022
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that. Alright, Uh, Miami or l A

1023
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: l A sorry, you know you're in Miami right now,

1024
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: all right, I don't get that. I met Miami. I

1025
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: met you got to get a very quickly actually in

1026
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: a room full of Miami. But I just have a

1027
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: credit for that one more than any of the nineties

1028
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: or two thousand hip hop nineties for Roll or Kanye

1029
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: producer or come on, how many more do you have?

1030
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: You got? Like? Wait? Six and more? Yeah, oh no, no,

1031
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: let me think for one more second, alright, cool for

1032
00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: for alright, cool ho Hogan, this would be easy or

1033
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: Rick Flair fla and he just no more hope. All right,

1034
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: all right, Ric Flair's hip hop, leave that alone. All right.

1035
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Flare's my god. And by the way, in real life,

1036
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: Flare's my rip. Flare is my guy. I don't I

1037
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: don't know who Agan. I don't know Whogan like that

1038
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: I met him. But Flare's my guy. I never I

1039
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: never met I've never met either. I want to hear

1040
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: that entire story. All right, Drink Champs are rap right off,

1041
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Drink Champs by the way, by the way, shout Sally Wilson.

1042
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: We miss you. We missed the train and we missed.

1043
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: We missed the elliot wasn't trained. He hasn't send that

1044
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Ellie wasn't trained since but not drinking? Yeah, COVID, come on,

1045
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 1: let's let's get out of COVID. Y'all even pick COVID

1046
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: or another desease COVID rap right, cod HIV. That was

1047
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: COVID very quick. That was not a question. All right.

1048
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: The Nicks to the next? Oh, well, Nicks, you gotta

1049
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: pick one boat. But I'm not a fan of either.

1050
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm a selfic fan. But I'll say next. I pulled

1051
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: for the next one, all right, Cardi b or Nicki Minaj?

1052
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Is that the last one? We got two more after it?

1053
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: But it's pretty easy, two more after it. Yeah, it's

1054
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: pretty easy. This is the last. Yeah, let's just go.

1055
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Let's go on this ship. I got one more organic

1056
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: food kings or GMO food kings? Which one? Which one? Should?

1057
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: I say? To organic food case the vegan keep going

1058
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: feeding us, feeding us? God damnit, hold on, I'm not

1059
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna put I'm not going icing this one that was

1060
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: sucked up. You knew that you put me in an

1061
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: impossible spot for the last at least you have because

1062
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: everyone takes shots like fat Joe said, I'm not drinking.

1063
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: We got we came to here drink, which it wasn't

1064
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: for Joe. What got Joe? Do you remember a couple

1065
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: of them? Yeah, I say, Joe is not taking j

1066
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: other No, no, no. We put remmy Ma and um Nicki,

1067
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: oh like remmy Ma and Cardio something like that, and

1068
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: he took with him up. Okay, so you ready it

1069
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: should be easy for you as well. Ricky Martin, would

1070
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: you say, Mammy Ma, pup, pup, daddy dredre got it?

1071
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Puff podcast or radio Radio over podcast really well in

1072
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: d C. Yeah, I'm sorry, send y for me, and

1073
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think I might take a shot because he's

1074
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna pick DC. Listen, I love DC. It will always

1075
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: be where I'm from. It's where my family lives. The

1076
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: thing is these formative years for me I've been in

1077
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: New York. Like when when you know, how when you

1078
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: go back to New York, probably there are things that

1079
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: you're like, I barely even recognize this. This is so different.

1080
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: That's what it's like when I go back to you

1081
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: know what I'll say when I go back to New York,

1082
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, fun this place right, Like only you can

1083
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: say that, you know, say that about Queens, I say

1084
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: about New York period until I land, and I land,

1085
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm like dad for the first time recently missing when

1086
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: my girls from Queen's Okay, she took me to the

1087
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: Colosseum for the first time. I had never I had

1088
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: never done a proper Queen's shopping Colosseum experience. You know

1089
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: that's what NAS shot the person in belly. Yeah, that

1090
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: was outside the Colisseum. Can you tell me though, what

1091
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: I know you're doing the interview, but what was the

1092
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: Colosseum like like a nice Saturday. Back in the day,

1093
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: you would have had to have a ro plane. What

1094
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: to do? I'm assuming your girl is white. I'm just

1095
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: asking she is, okay, yeah, so y'all too coming through

1096
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: back in the days, you would have to have some

1097
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: gold fronts and ushia. You had that Gucci jacket. Probably

1098
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: she wasn't white. What would be the difference? And she

1099
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: was taught that you just had to be a fair

1100
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: that somebody, somebody had to know somebody to make somebody,

1101
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: to be affiliated to get a beat. Patty, you know

1102
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's the be Patty spot right. I

1103
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: was so sorry ship that the ship that got barbecue

1104
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: be bad. They got jerked Patty. You would think I

1105
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: worked for them, they Queen's people or something else. Though, Yeah,

1106
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: you know the way were the best girl. I don't

1107
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: know if I joked. I joke all the time with

1108
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: siphon one app that I say, daddy my girl. I

1109
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: was like my girls basically like spending time with Big Noise.

1110
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: That's how Queen's my girl. That's how when I think

1111
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: of Big when I think of Queen's I picture Big

1112
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Noise being like, what's up, cousin? But my girls loud.

1113
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: Queen's people are just a different Honestly, if you're really

1114
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: from Queens. That's why Donald Trump is lying on his

1115
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: birthose kid, He's always been blaming Obama for lying on

1116
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: his perpose. He's been lying. He's saying he's from Queens.

1117
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: There's no way you can be from Queens and bed

1118
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: he's from I think he's from Brooklyn. You racist man,

1119
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 1: They got part smoking, Like if you're not in New Yorker,

1120
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: you don't appreciate how underrated great that line is. Then

1121
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: Donald Trouble's line is percian because he's not sticking of

1122
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: coming to people. Unfortunately, there are racists and every bir

1123
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: and is but no but to but to your point, like,

1124
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: and you know my girl when she when when her

1125
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: family moved to Brooklyn when she was in high school

1126
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: and she stayed, she commuted to stay at high school

1127
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: and Queens because of that, like because Queens is just

1128
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: like she was, like, the people here are just who

1129
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: I want to be around. It's a different atmosphere like

1130
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: that that is. I do think Queens is the most diverse.

1131
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: It's the most diverse place in America. It feels like

1132
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: I always say this on this show, and I say

1133
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: this like I grew up with an Indian, I grew

1134
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: up with a Patian, I grew up with a Russian.

1135
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: I knew every food. That's why I said, don't don't

1136
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: be mad at me when he's like, you know, this

1137
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: is this type of food, and I don't funk with it,

1138
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: like if he tried it already had it. Bronson wrote

1139
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: about that in this new bo I'm reading actually and

1140
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: he's like yo, and he's Albani and he's like yo.

1141
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: In my neighborhood, literally every day my crew of people

1142
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: was Albanian, Dominican, Colombian. It's every single kind of person

1143
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: is there. It's just you know, And that's why, honestly,

1144
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: when we talk about hip hop, the Queen's hip Hop conversation,

1145
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, we always talked nas and Nipty. We mentioned

1146
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: like the obvious people, but the real history of queens

1147
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: and how deep it goes lost boys, CONNELLI, it's t seven.

1148
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: What's something yo? I wasn't seven from Xtra P Let's

1149
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: go um like, it's just queens is. Everyone will default

1150
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: and say Brooklyn or Bronze first, But honestly, I think

1151
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that Queens is the best

1152
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: borrow in hip I believe, so I'll make some noise

1153
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: for that. God, damn, God, damn it. It's in the conversations.

1154
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: It's it's for me. It's Queens in Brooklyn, and you know,

1155
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: and the Bronx obviously the birthplace, so they have their

1156
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: own thing already. Yeah, we can't compete with them. They

1157
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: already the birthplace, the birthplace. We don't want that, Queens,

1158
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: but we kept it going. That's why I was easy

1159
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: for mc shan to tell that story because people told

1160
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: him this is what happened in the part. And by

1161
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: the way, do you want to know something that speaking

1162
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: of Queens that I've always felt that I think is

1163
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: a controversial hip hop opinion. I always thought that the

1164
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: best record in the in the Battle and Shan and

1165
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: I am a obviously I think k R S is

1166
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: a god. I always thought The Bridge was the best

1167
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: record in the whole thing. Yes, like record, I don't mean,

1168
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't mean like got the hardest this in. I

1169
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: mean that when that ship comes on and you hear

1170
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: what Marley did at the beginning of the record, when

1171
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: those drums first at the beginning, to me, that was

1172
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: always it, you know what my Queen's mean over there.

1173
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: I like it more than the beat for the bridge.

1174
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: South Brons came out first right correct, then then the

1175
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: bigger bridge right then the bridge. The problem is when

1176
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: you can pay it. It's almost like when you can

1177
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: pay a takeover, you always have to say take over

1178
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: and super ugly, and then it's just crazy that eat

1179
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: the supersedes take over. And you know I'm notoriously I'm

1180
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: a takeover a guy over either. Yeah, but you're wrong.

1181
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: Everyone says that makes sense why you're saying yeah, but

1182
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: but but but I just never could funk with the

1183
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: beat to either. I'm too but you always said it's

1184
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: half beat, half rhymes. I never funked with And I

1185
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: told Ron Browse to his face, I respect you as

1186
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: a man and as a producer. I don't. I never

1187
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: walked with either like that brown step on your big toe,

1188
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: adopt all the feet like you know. I take the

1189
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: yell that I'm probably wrong on the takeover there because

1190
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: you pick J just but by the way, so opening

1191
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: that up a little bit, open that back. Let's open

1192
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: the back to open that back. J and NAS both

1193
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: occupy a space that is so important they're both such

1194
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: gods and so I'm sorry, not sorry, I did hear this. Okay, kids,

1195
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: your message and we get back to that. I just

1196
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: watched Belly the other day though, the day of X's memorial,

1197
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to go on with this now. Just seeing

1198
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: Now's walk on the screen, I was just like, yo,

1199
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: he's such a fucking icon And and the other day

1200
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: he has a new He's in a new movie on

1201
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: Netflix right now. I know it's something monster. They're saying

1202
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: sliming there. They're saying sliming there so so and Rockies

1203
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: in it too, and world yeah, and when it's not

1204
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: exactive induceding. So I don't know how to do this.

1205
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: So it's gonna just leave it alone. You have just

1206
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: leave it alone at the big homies in a big home,

1207
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: Moivie like this right now. So I when I watched

1208
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: when Nads comes on the screen, he's in jail. He's

1209
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: in jail, and I'm just like, man like nas he

1210
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: just I just want to take like a moment to

1211
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: appreciate how iconic he is. And listen, I've been hard

1212
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: on Nods before, like I hated Uchiali's not being hard

1213
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: on Kay. But no, no, I love Nas. I love that.

1214
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean we have a great relation with you didn't

1215
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: get a double right now? Was it like that was

1216
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: a pause you were setting up? But God, he's him

1217
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: and occupy different spaces. But like, um, they're both so

1218
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: unbelievably iconic. But who has the better bodies of work?

1219
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: That's what I always get into is who has the albums?

1220
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: And they probably have this almost the same amount of

1221
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: classic albums. Honestly, you know, I'm a I'm a blueprint.

1222
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm a reasonable doubt blueprint. Then black albums slightly down

1223
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: from those two kind of guy. And you are illmatic.

1224
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm an illmatic. I'm an almatic through and through. I

1225
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: love it was written. Um, I think people I think

1226
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: there are other ones in there that people have slept

1227
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: on a little bit. I think God's Son has incredible

1228
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: him still madic, the stillmatic hims, you know, the second

1229
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: Childhood like there's you know. But I think here's the

1230
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: thing about Nas though I don't think Nas. I think

1231
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: his his interest in beats is weird. It's not what

1232
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: I would expect sometimes what he chooses and then Hove

1233
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: I think has great beat selection. But I think he

1234
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: intentionally chooses some weird ship sometimes because he wants to

1235
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: just kind of shine, you know, like, I don't think

1236
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: either of them are no one's flawless. Bro. The thing

1237
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: is this, we were we were grading on a scale

1238
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: that didn't make sense because we had never seen artists

1239
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: age before. So when someone has three albums, you're like, oh,

1240
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: the fourth one is not great. You forget about the

1241
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: fact that they might have fifteen albums. You know, Paul

1242
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: Simon is one of my all time favorite artists, right,

1243
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: Paul Simon seventy five years old. And you can call

1244
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: me at you call me a, you can call me out.

1245
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't notice name, just call him out. The sound

1246
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: of silence, the sound of silence you how about how

1247
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: about Mrs Robinson? God, please, Mrs Robinson's Jesus loves you

1248
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: more than you could know never heard, I think. So.

1249
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: You know the fact that you just said I don't

1250
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: know that and words about all Simon is the illest show.

1251
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, all right, listen. My point was this, though,

1252
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: with Paul Simon or Bruce Springsteen, of these guys who

1253
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: have been around forty years, boss, they have they have

1254
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: bricks in there, they have bricks, but at the time,

1255
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: in the nineties and early two thousands, when I was

1256
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: grading albums, I had never seen a rap artist who

1257
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: lasted thirty years. So they dropped one album, we go

1258
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: they fell off. They didn't fall off. They made one

1259
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: whack joint as part of an entire career in which

1260
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: they'll make more classics down the line. So we always

1261
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: think it's the end. You know, guys, we could have

1262
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: ten more Kanye albums left. We could have seven more

1263
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: Nas albums left, eight more jail there. These are young

1264
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: men relatively, you don't know how, so like we were

1265
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: always holding this whole It's a young man's game, that's

1266
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: what was only because rap artists hadn't lived long enough

1267
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: for it to become a generational game, and we stupidly

1268
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: cut off our own old school artists and made them

1269
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: feel like they weren't cool anymore when they chow up

1270
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: at the club and they were forty five. It's all

1271
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: these guys are we should We should have always been

1272
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: treating them like you don't know about to drop next,

1273
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: yoused to tell somebody do tim push ups like old school,

1274
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: like your old school. By the way, he already the father,

1275
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: of course, I think but like you know, we just

1276
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: need to we don't. We don't realize where the game's going.

1277
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: Who's gonna drop a classic album? Those two artists specifically

1278
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: set the bar so high. No, no, no, not with

1279
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: their first album I Love You, I Love You, I

1280
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: Love You. They set that bar so high for themselves

1281
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: that that's why everything felt like a disappointment after that. Yeah,

1282
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: and it's not the truth. Thing is like the last

1283
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: the last whole album four four or four was fired.

1284
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: I think Story of O J is one of the

1285
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: greatest home songs of all time. Here's the goal when

1286
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: you get older in music age. No, here's what I

1287
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Okay, relevant to what are here, but

1288
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: don't know, don't fake it. I agree that that it's whacked.

1289
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say was when you drop

1290
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: an album, if you could drop a classic, that's great.

1291
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: But what you really hope to do, You're gonna be

1292
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: touring for the rest of your life. You're adding one

1293
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: or two songs to your playlist at your shows. That's it.

1294
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: When you go see um Billy Joel, I've seen Billy

1295
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: Joel to gard. Remember he was doing a resident Billy

1296
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: Joel in a residency at Madison's where gard Billy Joel sing,

1297
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ Almighty, he did a residence. How about

1298
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: piano Man? How about town Girls? Yeah, you know he

1299
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: has to hear the song. He guarantee, it doesn't matter.

1300
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: He's got a bajillion hits. Right, his catalog was worth

1301
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: a good zillion dollars. You say bajillion, I'm taking that.

1302
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: So when when only Joel? When he when you go

1303
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: to his concert, ninety of the songs he put out

1304
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: between the late seventies and after that, there's one song

1305
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: off each album that was a hit that he does

1306
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: it the concert. That's it. No one was listening to

1307
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: the late albums all the way through. They took the

1308
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: hot joint. You added to your set. You keep it moving.

1309
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: And then later in your life, the goal is you're

1310
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: seventy two years old and you get nominated and you

1311
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: win that Best Album Grammy. You know, like we'll see

1312
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: like a Bob Dylan nominated at seventy one years old

1313
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: because he finally hit another classic joint. But you don't

1314
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: have to have our Tony Bennett. You don't have to

1315
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 1: have a You just need to make good still fingerpop

1316
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: it's something somewhere, Tony, Tony, He's still we're having for this.

1317
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: You also started be between Saigon and Mob D but

1318
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: that was the end of the beating. That was the problem.

1319
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: I was there. That's all I saw was your show. Wait,

1320
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: you were there. We had to show. I was supposed

1321
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: to perform the war report for the first time ever,

1322
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: and oh my god, you were on the show show.

1323
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: That's how I booked it. It was like, you agreed

1324
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: to do the war report for the first time ever.

1325
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: We've never done a war report before that, We've never

1326
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 1: done a war report since. So you came to me.

1327
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it. You convinced me. It's like, yo,

1328
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: let's do it, but have mob Do you do the

1329
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: whole infamous? I said, And oh yeah, it was Marvel

1330
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: was gonna do the infamous. You were gonna do the

1331
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: work we had And I said a mob had really

1332
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: just really just been on the same fucking disaster I was.

1333
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: Who didn't pull me aside and say, bro, do you

1334
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: know all the people you're dealing with right now? Do

1335
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: you know what problems? Because so here's here's the thing

1336
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: I'll say, Because I know I saw a sign on

1337
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: your podcast, and I talked to Saigon recently without the

1338
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: challenge April. You wanted to get to that later. He's

1339
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: got it. By the way, I'd like to answer, Saigon, no,

1340
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 1: not fighting. You know how that would turn out, and

1341
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: it's not a dub for me. So let me just

1342
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: say this, um, and by dub, I mean w I

1343
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: would lose. So Saigon's version of the story is not

1344
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: how I recall it. I was brand new. I did

1345
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: not know who had issues with who at that very moment.

1346
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds crazy because people didn't know

1347
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: Sigon and Prodigy had ship, but at that time I

1348
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I was like, Sigon, you want to

1349
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: perform the show? He said, sure. I'm playing his Come

1350
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: On Baby record every week. I'm the guy playing it.

1351
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm sucking into it. I love mob deep as you

1352
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: know I love you guys. Hope jumping on it probably

1353
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: maybe he's just jumping on it right at that moment.

1354
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: And so the one part that I'm saying, I'm sorry

1355
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: to cut you off, You're saying that jay Z might

1356
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: have jumped on it that record because of the actual incident,

1357
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: because remember him and p had problem. Wow, No, that

1358
01:11:54,240 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: is trying to make it a double another and another

1359
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: be that was that wasn't wasn't that I was talking

1360
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: so so I didn't. I didn't beg Saigon to perform.

1361
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: I know I asked him to. I definitely said I

1362
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: would love for you to perform your song, he claims

1363
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: in the story that he tells. I don't fault him

1364
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: for this. I think it's simply the stories we tell

1365
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: ourselves the time goes on. He's like, Rosenberg begged me

1366
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: to do it. Bro I was such a little bitch

1367
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: made fresh out at chevy Chase Maryland. I wasn't pressuring

1368
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: anyone to do ship. Then you know me at that time,

1369
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: you said, chevy Chase, I'm from chevy Chase, Maryland. I

1370
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: need to visit this. Chevy Chase has Maryland. Chevy Chase

1371
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: Maryland is this? Is this like Dave Chapelle, like Deason

1372
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: Belle got his own from the same area too, But no,

1373
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: chevy Chase is. I think he took his name after

1374
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: the place he saw them on the map, and it

1375
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: was like, that's a funny name. Have you heard Have

1376
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: you heard of Silver Spring Maryland? You've heard Spring? I

1377
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: know it's so with live now you know. Now he

1378
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: doesn't know, but he used to be chev che is.

1379
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't built for any of this. Ship.

1380
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: You should come to sa at my parents house a passover, sater.

1381
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: I want to take mash mushrooms and just hang out.

1382
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: It's not like white white people aren't just doing mushrooms

1383
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: willy nilly over. It's not a passover. It's not the

1384
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: way it works. I mean, I'd be down to try it, um,

1385
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: but but I don't remember that. I don't remember at

1386
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: that time. Me pressuring him would be crazy. I never

1387
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: would have been like, you you're about to go on

1388
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: that stage I got he said, begging, begging and pressuring

1389
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: or to the good point. I would have let it go.

1390
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been like, please go on either you

1391
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: would be like, oh you don't want to do it, okay, cool,

1392
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: I get it. Whatever it is, it happened, Um, I understand.

1393
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: And I told this, just go on the other day,

1394
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: I said, I get it, bro like. So he spoke

1395
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: after he was on here, after he was on here,

1396
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: and then after that he went on social and talked

1397
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: about he was the celebrity boxing match. Yeah, and he definitely.

1398
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: He definitely TV and you ready, he's read too. He

1399
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: was ready, he was and I and I said, I

1400
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: was a little bummed out by things that he said

1401
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: because we were We've been cool for years. And he said,

1402
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: what was bummed out that he said? Sir? It was like, Uh,

1403
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: these guys don't care about the culture. Just some ship

1404
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: about me that's not true and that he knows is

1405
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 1: fundamentally not true. Sigon and I made a record together.

1406
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: He put it on his album. By the way, didn't

1407
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: clear it with me. I've never said one word. He

1408
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: took a record we made. It is currently streaming on

1409
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: his album from years ago. I never said ship. Take

1410
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: the fucking record. I'm glad he made it. A little

1411
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: fames on it. It's fire. Shout out to Hodyest you

1412
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 1: produced it. It's a great record. I fun with Saigon.

1413
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: I think it's unfortunate the way she played out. You

1414
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 1: don't even reduce it. How is it? It was put together?

1415
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: I created a super session. I introduced Odyessey to these

1416
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: artists and we did it one day, composed, I did it.

1417
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I like that, it's what so um.

1418
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: The bottom line is, it's unfortunate. And I think Saigon

1419
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: is it udible talent. I said to him the other day.

1420
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 1: He was saying that, like, Yo, this one event was

1421
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: a really bad event, and you know, some ship didn't

1422
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: work out my career. Said, Bro, we listen. You got

1423
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: some bad breaks, no doubt about it. You also got

1424
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: some great fucking b You got jay Z on your

1425
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: first single. Well and and listen, I get it. So

1426
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: I didn't work out. He was also the guy on Entourage,

1427
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: like good ship happened for Saigon too, And by the way,

1428
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: that Entourage don't listen it. The point is he's a

1429
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: good dude. We all have. We all have, and he's

1430
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: a passionate, real dude and a real artist. I fucking

1431
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: love Saigon. I've known him again. It's one of those things.

1432
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: We have bee very early. Even before that, we had beef,

1433
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: we had shipped. Before that, we made up, I know,

1434
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: we talked it. Now. I love Sigon, Like ship happens

1435
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: is unfortunate. But I'll just tell you this, I was

1436
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: a new jack. I didn't know what I was doing.

1437
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: I'll take the l for even putting the show together though,

1438
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: because I didn't know. I was just father, you know,

1439
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: tell him the last words. I said, it was all positive.

1440
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: It's all positive energy. It's all positive energy. I can't live.

1441
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: Peter Rosenberg said, great ship about you as positive energy.

1442
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: So so it's the positive part of the thing. Hold on,

1443
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: I said, y'all say what's up? Man? We squats beep

1444
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: on drink champs. What you know, I literally just said

1445
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: that I loved you two minutes ago, you know I

1446
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: I was just telling them that we have a history

1447
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 1: that goes back before that event. You know, he's got

1448
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: He's a big fact, big fact bro. You know it's

1449
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: all love man. Yeah, and you know your Peter Man

1450
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: check us out like like when you when you Gucci man,

1451
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: like like that whole ship. You know what I'm saying.

1452
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: The reason why it still comes up because when I

1453
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: through pressing Peter like a big question is what happened?

1454
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: What happened? Like you had all this energy it just

1455
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: went away. Yeah. I gotta be honest and be real

1456
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: about I get it. It took place and and and

1457
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: for that, like I'll be telling it is that's equivalent.

1458
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: So they can having a fucking drinking feature today changes

1459
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: you l You know, I got ed, but so many

1460
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: ways now I get when you told me that when

1461
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: you DM me that, like, it made me understand why

1462
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: it comes up again. And obviously, listen on our memories

1463
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: are gonna be different of ship. Our memories are different

1464
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: of ship. But that is what it is. You know,

1465
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: it's love. Bro? How is how is your Oh? You

1466
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: mean from that night? Yeah, of course we're too human beings,

1467
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: but two versions of your own life. And to this,

1468
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: I told you I'm not supposed to even be in

1469
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: I was dumb, bro Seory, Yeah, what's got your you

1470
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But but but but it's the

1471
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: real ship, p Like we had a relationship prior to that.

1472
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: And and I've been to your crib. You know I'm

1473
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: saying fact a crib. I'm saying, like, I know your

1474
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: bro introduced me your brother and it was a voice love.

1475
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: So so really I want to slam me bro still,

1476
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: but listen, I'll try to us, all right, I'll try

1477
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: to do this. It's positive. And I knows your brother

1478
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: and I know you have to got y'all close it.

1479
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: But he was my man too. He didn't have to

1480
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: do me like that. Broke again to do me like

1481
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,919
Speaker 1: nobody was bleeding. There was no scuffo. They still performed.

1482
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: It was not Hey, listen, let's let's set up a combo.

1483
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: Let's set up a combo and talk it up and

1484
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: move onward and upne Nori Nor is now the king.

1485
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 1: By the way, he did you jack that from me?

1486
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: That that's a Rosenberg move the mid podcast blind calling

1487
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: people and holding the ship? How do you think we did?

1488
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: Interview said, by the way, all right, pick up that

1489
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't want no violence, and I'm gonna say something

1490
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: that I got two more questions after this. Cool, I

1491
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: actually don't have the stories. Yeah, you made fun of

1492
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: me the day that of Yeah, interviewed the Saigon things.

1493
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: It's like you Nor can't say what a lot of

1494
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: these other artists say. I never had be for brol

1495
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: you said that hero. It's like Nori and I definitely

1496
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: never had any problems ever. Like you were good. You

1497
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: have been pouci at ninety seven, even after all the

1498
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: ship that went down. Everyone knows about you know, there

1499
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: was never an issue. So I gotta I gotta stand

1500
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: up for you, bro, because you know, sometimes people think

1501
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: that you know, you know, when you were banned and

1502
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: they took you over, how they say they blame evil

1503
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: for that, and I gotta be a man and tell

1504
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: you that he had nothing. He was not even in power.

1505
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: He was not even in that. But afterwards he came,

1506
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: we spoke, I had the first like his first night

1507
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: in New York. We hung out, had a great time,

1508
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I've never actually said

1509
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: that publicly. He said it a couple of times, but

1510
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: I want to say I want people to know that. Like,

1511
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: so you know, Eviro was super solid with me the

1512
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: morning show, you Laura styles, uh, Peter super supported man.

1513
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: So I just want to make some noise because a

1514
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: lot of people think, a lot of people think a

1515
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: lot of people think. All right, So moving on, DMX

1516
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: just gotta day. What do you feel about that that?

1517
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: I got one more question after that, and that's that

1518
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: he just got a day. Yeah, a day, like a

1519
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: day dedicated to him DMX on his birthday. Yeah, it's

1520
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: the whole uh state of New York correct New York. Yeah,

1521
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: Like I mean, listen, he is uh X is so special. Man.

1522
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: E FN and I were talking before we got on

1523
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: the air about his last appearance on your show. It's

1524
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: just that I can't believe that he's gone man, it's

1525
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 1: it's a really I've only got to be in his

1526
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: presence actually a few times, I know, not very much,

1527
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: um because once as you hope hosting the um Rock

1528
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: the Bell that that was the only time I got

1529
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,879
Speaker 1: to be around him, and then that interviews on YouTube,

1530
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: and it was he was great. I mean it was

1531
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: one of those those things that X were like you

1532
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: could tell he's, you know, not sober during the conversation,

1533
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: has come to you and be bad. No, no, no,

1534
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,560
Speaker 1: he was still great though, like like it's it's a

1535
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: weird thing, you know when everyone One thing I love

1536
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: about the X story, as sad as it all is,

1537
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: is is that it's a very open story. He's honest,

1538
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: you know, Swiss is honest, and we all know that

1539
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: X had a hard life and had demons to deal with.

1540
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: So instead of talking around it, we're able to talk

1541
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: about a real man who was vulnerable in that way,

1542
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: yet he managed to struggle with these demons and yet

1543
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: be a good dude through it all. Like I have

1544
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: not heard the story yet of X treated someone like

1545
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: ship Like when you met him, he was everything you

1546
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: thought he would be in a good way. Now listen,

1547
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 1: you book him for a show. He might show up

1548
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: two hours later. Maybe he might not show up. He

1549
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: might might be drink, might be still part of what

1550
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: you would expect of that, you know what I mean?

1551
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: Like he was, he was an enigma. He was he

1552
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: was amazing man like I he's that. He's that when

1553
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: I have that that moment where I need to play

1554
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: something and make myself feel like I'm kind of bigger

1555
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: than I am, I play that what's my name ship

1556
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: by you know that ship, the one that has the

1557
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: intro that the burgundy um leather thing on and it's

1558
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: black and yeah, Tyson came out to in a couple

1559
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: of times, and that was you know, so rest in peace,

1560
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: acts men. I wish I got to know him a

1561
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: better damn man. All right, now, this is the last question.

1562
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: You know, I can't believe you're I'm gonna get out

1563
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: on time and make my flight too. All right, let's

1564
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: do it. But you got to get to the shot

1565
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: this question once. I'm going I'll take your no. No.

1566
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: Three is my lucky number, so you gotta do it

1567
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: on Campra. Three is my lucky number. Um. But the

1568
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: question first start, Just let me get the question of

1569
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: my head. It was I've grown close to you because

1570
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: I kind of don't remember. I think it was a

1571
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 1: slight problem. I don't think it was a problem beef

1572
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: like how you thought it was. No, no, no, I'm

1573
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: sure all right, but me and you got along, we

1574
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: did and it was one thing that happened. Oh god,

1575
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: I didn't drink it. Go ahead, and it was a

1576
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: Chuck d Oh wait wait wait wait, Chuck d intident. Yeah,

1577
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 1: so I would like you to recollect as much as

1578
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: you you would call this incident. I'm glad. I want

1579
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: to do this with you. I'm glad. So Summer Jam

1580
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: one year is like thirteen fourteen, something like that. Some

1581
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: fusory happened at the end. I think it was maybe

1582
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: the fifties slow Bucks thing, or it was some ship.

1583
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: It was one of the fuckory Summer Jam moments. I

1584
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: don't remember which one. There have been several moments. And

1585
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: afterwards Chuck d made a statement of some sort I

1586
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: don't remember where anymore about hot ninety seven and us

1587
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: being shitty and irresponsible and whatever the ship was, and

1588
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: in that moment he wasn't wrong to be upset about

1589
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: a moment that occurred, but his overall in my opinion

1590
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: his overall way of describing Hot ninety seven. While I

1591
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: understand why people do it, I wish they really knew,

1592
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: like we are not like you just said about ebro

1593
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: hebrow is the most misrepresented guy he does. He does

1594
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: it to himself to some degree because he not a

1595
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: su and he knows that because he's not from New

1596
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: York and he's not a sucker, he has to play

1597
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: a certain part. By the way, he roes a big motherfucker.

1598
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: So he also people might get extra salty because when

1599
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: they want to test him, they see him and they're like,

1600
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: all right, I'll let this one live. So he he

1601
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: puts off a big energy that I think a lot

1602
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: of people misread him on. He's a fucking quality, solid dude.

1603
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: And the station the way we operate in general, like

1604
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: we are you know you meant you think of like

1605
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,799
Speaker 1: you're in New Yorker, Lisa evers, we are a solid

1606
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: community radio station that cares about the community. By the way, yeah,

1607
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: of course, like we are, and we we do. We

1608
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: still do a community affairs show like places don't do

1609
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: community affair shows. They let me have my real late show,

1610
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: like we do quality ship on Hot. We are a

1611
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: deep part of the community. More so, we are not

1612
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: a huge company. Everyone thinks we were the bad corporate giant. No,

1613
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 1: we were always the smaller station. We were just the

1614
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: heritage station. So when Chuck made his statement again, I

1615
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what it was. It came from a

1616
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: place of judging a moment where he was right to

1617
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: be discussed. Did with the moment, but I thought the

1618
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 1: view of the station was unfair. And you asked earlier.

1619
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: You said loyalty or respect, and I said loyalty, no hesitation.

1620
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: So I love Chuck D. I grew up listening to

1621
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: Public Enemy and I did living base Heads video. It

1622
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: was part of me becoming in love with hip hop.

1623
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Fight the Power and Shut him Down remix. I would say,

1624
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: are two of my top ten favorite rap songs ever made.

1625
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: I respect Chuck D. But in that moment, I felt

1626
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: this need to be defensive of the place that has

1627
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,440
Speaker 1: changed my life, and I rode hard, and in retrospect,

1628
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: I went too hard. I really did, And I am

1629
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: of all the moments I've had, that is the one

1630
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm regretful for because I when I look back at it,

1631
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: it just reakes of privilege. It was showing it was

1632
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: showing even if I didn't agree with him, Chuck d

1633
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: is so revered that I should have handled that like

1634
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: a son and been like, hey, that's Chuck's opinion. He

1635
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: has every right to that opinion and kept it moving.

1636
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: And instead I had the bat in my back to

1637
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: be like, you know, it's probably still off the of

1638
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: the Nicki Minaj thing, thinking let me let me talk

1639
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: some ship. I'm incredibly regretful for it. Um And. And

1640
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: the nice part of the story is I had a

1641
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: lot of people call me and tell me different things

1642
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: in the weeks after the Chuck remember calling so so yeah,

1643
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: so a lot of people called me and said different

1644
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: things to me. Um. But Nori called, and he called

1645
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 1: with zero judgment. He just said, I'm not calling to

1646
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: tell you about what you said. I'm calling to tell

1647
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: you that I was out and I heard people saying

1648
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: things about you negatively. That we're not the kind of

1649
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: people that I want to hear saying things about you negatively.

1650
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: These are not the people you want to be angry.

1651
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: I think you should apologize. And if you recall Nori

1652
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: as God is my witness, I said, sounds good. And

1653
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: the next day I said I gotta do something on

1654
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: the air today. And I went on the air and

1655
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: I said, I apologize. I did not think about how

1656
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: this would affect people and how it affects shop. And

1657
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: honestly it was a mistake, like be told. Whether people

1658
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: wanted to suck me up about it or not, it

1659
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: just wasn't the right thing to do. And sometimes you

1660
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: get you get lost in a moment and you want

1661
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: to defend the place that you work. And I should

1662
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: have put hip hop ahead of the station there and said, listen,

1663
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,480
Speaker 1: that's Chuck d He's in rarefied air. If I disagree,

1664
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: just just disagree and shut the funk up. And I

1665
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: didn't do that in that moment. So I would say

1666
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: that was one spot where I sucked up, and also

1667
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: where I was very grateful to you for having that.

1668
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: We were friends at the time, and you know, and

1669
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: it's one more question after this because her we gotta

1670
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: because it brought me to another situation that we have

1671
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: to fix. But this was this one moment where you know,

1672
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: when you're my friend, you're my friend. I don't care.

1673
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: Right you go down the block, We're going ducking donuts

1674
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: and they say this is a ship donnut and you

1675
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: want to eat this ship donnut, I'm gonna say, don't

1676
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: eat this ship doughnut. After you eat this ship donut,

1677
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the guy to look around and say,

1678
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: don't make fun of him eating the ship don't. Right.

1679
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 1: It's a fucking foul friend. But I'm a lawyer friend.

1680
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: And when I saw that, because I knew that's not

1681
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: what your attention you was. God bless me for for

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01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: saying this. It was like where they say in the

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01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: work world, a company man. He was being a company

1684
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: which which which? Which? Was like it's like, al right, cool,

1685
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Like you know most of us, you know who works

1686
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: for the bus company and tire comes off and they say, well,

1687
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: the bus company is a piece of ship. You say, no, well,

1688
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: I pick ninety nine tires, and ninety nine tires work.

1689
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: This is this one. You can't take this one thing

1690
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: out on the bus company. But what you don't know

1691
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 1: is there's people hired La, there's people in a little Haiti,

1692
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: there's people in Overtown, there's people in left right, there's

1693
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:55,879
Speaker 1: people in Corona who bus company is fucked up. You understand,

1694
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:57,799
Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of people may not understand

1695
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but it's actually exactly right, exactly know

1696
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: my listeners understands. Maybe these guys don't they speak, they

1697
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: speaking speaking. Yeah, So I wanted you to do that,

1698
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: and I was so thankful that you did. I really was.

1699
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I was thankful to you, bro. I was thankful because

1700
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: you know, um you said it earlier. Sometimes sometimes we

1701
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 1: speak from a place of privilege and we don't we

1702
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: don't know, because what then is privilege? Come with alert sign,

1703
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: you know. That's the people don't understand. They don't You

1704
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: don't know that you're speaking from privilege, Like you don't

1705
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: go to red lobster and it's your term for the table,

1706
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: go to give you a thing and go bepp like

1707
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like that you don't know,

1708
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: And then you look back and like wow, that was

1709
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: really Harry. But but now you have me nervous. What's

1710
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: the thing that you want to fix? So I gotta

1711
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: call my car and it sounds like about to getting

1712
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: some dece it's a little deep by the way amount

1713
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: as I have to go to w W tonight. That's

1714
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's I'm look, this is a room

1715
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: going around or what's going around. I listen. I'm not

1716
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: speaking about you because I have nothing else to do.

1717
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm speaking about you because this man is here. I

1718
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: want to correct the rumor that man yeah here, no you,

1719
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: there's a rumor going around that you actually search for

1720
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: me to go at tax Stone. Okay, I can handle

1721
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: this one. I thought it could be something else, um like, No,

1722
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: it was. It was just misrepresented. And by the way,

1723
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: you're probably to blame for this, because how would tax

1724
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: have gotten information unless you said something. The whole story

1725
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: in one second is I don't even remember where me

1726
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: and tax got issues from. I know he said wild

1727
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: shit about me. He mentioned my ex wife like he

1728
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: did some wild ship. No, no, I know there was

1729
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: some wild ship that happened. I was worried. As I

1730
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: said earlier, I am from Chevy Chase, Maryland. I am

1731
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: not built for this. So I'm very clear, and it

1732
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: took me a couple of years to learn how to

1733
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: do what you're built for and what you're not built for.

1734
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: But now I know, and unlike a lot of people

1735
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,440
Speaker 1: I move around was zero security. I lived very comfortably

1736
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: because I learned what the boundaries are and how you

1737
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: can just do what you do and not offend anyone.

1738
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: In this specific case, tax was coming at me. I

1739
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: did not know much about him. What I heard was

1740
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, a street dude, knows the

1741
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: streets whatever. All the ship you just got to hear.

1742
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: I reached out to Nori and said, what do you

1743
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: know about this dude. The way the story has been

1744
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: retold was that I was like, yo, Nori, I'm putting

1745
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: that hit on. It's crazy. Thank you, because listen, I'm

1746
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: glad you said it. I can hit you up. It

1747
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what to do with a

1748
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: little nerd. What happened was you asked me. I met

1749
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: him like two days later, and it was the CBS

1750
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: building or something like that, and I said to him,

1751
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: I said, well, no, he did the interview with him

1752
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: before that. No, all right, so all right, so didn't

1753
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: it was actually the interview because I said, or how

1754
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,839
Speaker 1: we met, and like, I didn't know how you look obviously,

1755
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: so I give him a second hand. He's like, yo,

1756
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: I'm taxed. I said, oh, he asked me about you,

1757
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 1: and then it was it was like a joke. He

1758
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Peter got no to try to get

1759
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: at me. So when he said that, I laughed, but

1760
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't like serious to like run with it, like

1761
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: like he didn't call me like to say, Yo, go

1762
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: get this guy like all or you know. So I'm

1763
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,759
Speaker 1: grateful for you telling that, because the way he told

1764
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: it was that I was like, yo, knowing send the shooters.

1765
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: It was to be very careful, let's be very careful.

1766
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: God bless tax because I will never ever ever go

1767
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: at anybody that in the camp the situation. I have

1768
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: all due respect, of all respect for you. It's just

1769
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: it was funny at the time. So I didn't correct

1770
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: it when he was home. I'm just correcting it now

1771
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: because the rumor keeps continuing. And if you, like you know,

1772
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: you called me, you did, you asked, you did ask

1773
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: about him, Let's just be clear. I did. And by

1774
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: the tax and I got cool tax and I had

1775
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: a cool conversation after that. Taxes. Actually I gotta give

1776
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: tax credit because we always give tax credit. So tax

1777
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: and I had our ship when we give him credit.

1778
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: He by the way, I'm gonna say the next thing

1779
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: I've ever said, No one's gonna hear it. But after

1780
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: the whole ship that we had when I was super

1781
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: upset about what he said about my ex wife. He

1782
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 1: called me and he apologized. He was cool. He was like, yo,

1783
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: that's just out of bounds my ship. And again his

1784
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: ship was more with Ebro. I got more dragged into

1785
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: it whatever, and he was you know, he was very

1786
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: respectful and cool. And I think I was back as well,

1787
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: and we were cool. So when the ship came up

1788
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 1: a while ago, I was like, that story is not accurate.

1789
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: But I was just curious. I didn't know who he was,

1790
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 1: and I just hit you up to be like, yo,

1791
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: you were the guy. You were the guy who I

1792
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: knew who could tell me what was going on. You

1793
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: hit me up. And when I met him, I said, oh,

1794
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: ship Peter just asked about and he made a joke.

1795
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 1: He was like, oh ship because of I don't know,

1796
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: I guess my reputation or what. I was like, Oh,

1797
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: she called to to get me again. Your fault to

1798
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: always norries loosen sidegon as my fault? How No, but

1799
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get that straight. You know, I'm

1800
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: glad we did. I'm glad to big up to everybody

1801
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: else who we talked about. No, let's not mention anymore.

1802
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna end it ended with some talk and some

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