1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Forties and Free Agents, your favorite podcast leading 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: up to the start of the season, talking about the 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: biggest additions all over the league. My name is Greg Rosenthal. 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: I am with Daniel Jeremiah Mister moved the sticks, stunting 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: on us, wearing his shirt that he bought at a 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: very fancy resort in Hawaii. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Well that would mean something if you didn't just tell 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: me you were just literally over in Hawaii. So that's 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: that doesn't really fly. But I feel like with this show, Greg, 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: it's like the uh, You're gonna get a visit from 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: people during the holidays and then looking forward to seeing 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: them again, you know, next holiday season, and all of sudden, 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: it's like, why are they here in the summer? The 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: thought they weren't coming until next year, that's not true. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: We had our first week of shows back last week 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: and it was great to hear from everyone, and the 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: numbers say it. Everyone's listening, everyone's enjoying, and yes, we're 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna be going twice a week leading into the regular season, 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll get a little quieter and we'll be 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: back during draft season in full force. But yeah, let's 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: go over what happened this offseason kind of push it 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: forward about the guys who join these rosters that are 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: going to make the biggest impact. You do the rookies, 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: I do the veterans. We'll start with a rookie. 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's we're gonna rip through the NFC North here, 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: So five guys and we get the what do we 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: call the sixth one? Your little bonus baby here, it's 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: like a wildcard, wildcard, that's it. Wildcard. So I'll start 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: with the first one and let's keep it. Let's keep 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: it sexy. And I'm talking about the hair of Tate 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Ratlic With the Detroit Lions, who's going to h who's 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: gonna plug in? Start at right guard? They were toying 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: with the idea of having in place center with glass 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: with what's rag now who are retired, So like, okay, 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: we'll play there and then they end up, Man, we're 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: not gonna We're not gonna do that. Let's put him 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: at right guard. And you say, why would you have 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman is one of these you know, key 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: rookies to watch. Well, that's the identity of a Dan 40 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: Campbell team is their physicality and the way this offensive 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: line can move people. So I think it's gonna be 42 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: big for him. He was not really healthy his last 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: year at Georgia. If he was, I think he probably 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: goes a little bit higher. But he is massive. You 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: think about how some of the size that they have 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: up there. I'll give you the numbers on him. He 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: is six six and a half three hundred and eight pounds. 48 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: He ended up running a four nine seven as he 49 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: got healthy at the combine, but big athletic physical felt like, 50 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: this is kind of a Detroit Lion player. 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Did he go a little earlier than people expect? He 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: was fifty seventh overall. 53 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: He was my sixty second player. 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so right around where you thought, and they seem 55 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: to truly love him that he was going to start 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I think, barring a huge surprise right off the bat. 57 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Is this a bit of. 58 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: A trend the Ravens, I mean they're throwing out some massive, 59 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: tall guards. The Eagles obviously some of the best teams 60 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: of the league, Like, why is this happening that we're 61 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: having these behemoth guards. 62 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, the idea is to get five tackles on the field. 63 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: In baseball, you talk about we can have all shortstops 64 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: would be ideal. Well, if you think about the offensive line. 65 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: A lot of these offensive line coaches, Hey, I need 66 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: the feet of a tackle. It's a passing league to 67 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: be able to work in some of these matchups with 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: these defensive tackles. So there's been more of an emphasis 69 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: on that. And the other thing is when you're a 70 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: tall interior player, the danger is Okay, you can get leveraged. 71 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Guys can get underneath you and they can rock you back. Well, 72 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: the ball's coming out so fast now too, that's not 73 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: as much of an issue or to turn. 74 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: And that hair is just amazing. 75 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: If you have if you're listening and not watching, just 76 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: google it. 77 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Like one of the best team picture player photos out there. 78 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: Has Jeremiah ever experimented with his hair in his I've 79 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: never seen you with even remotely a different haircut. I'm 80 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: you seem like one of the guys that gets a 81 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: haircut every three days just to make it sure it's 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: exactly always the same. 83 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, Greg, not a lot of 84 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: options these days, so I couldn't. It's like a get 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: if I tried to grow out the hair, then it 86 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: becomes like stringy, creepy. It's not that full flowing tit Ratley. 87 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: Probably would be the same for me. 88 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: I did do a part down the middle and dyed 89 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: it black in early high school. Like this was you know, 90 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: the days of Kirk Cobain when people with there's a. 91 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: Picture out there floating around me with frosted tips. 92 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: There we got. 93 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: You said, like, why are they talking offensive line? I 94 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: hate to break it to you, We're going to talk 95 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: a lot of offensive line. That's just where the NFC 96 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: North invested this year. I'm gonna talk about the Bears 97 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: and Joe Toney. What a crazy career. I mean, he 98 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: had a chance to be part of two of the 99 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: greatest dynasties in NFL history and two All Pro first teams, 100 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: two second team All pros, including last year where he 101 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: played very well at guard and then had to fill 102 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: in at tackle at the end of the year. I mean, 103 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: some of his Patriots teammates actually voted him for Offensive 104 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. 105 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: They put him on the ballot. Did you know this? 106 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: They give Tom Brady and Teddy Bruce give vote because 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: they're in the media. That shouldn't be a lot, and 108 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: they won't give me one because I work for NFL media. 109 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: It's like, I know you don't want to trash talk 110 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Teddy Bruski, but here here's the facts. 111 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: I follow each team more. I deserve it more than them. 112 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: I bet let's talk more about you. 113 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: Joe Toney transformed the Chiefs when he joined that team, 114 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: and I do think it's a position. And you can 115 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: tell me if you disagree that you can age well, 116 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: he's still playing at a very high level. So they 117 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: brought him in Chicago in a trade that ultimately didn't 118 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: cost too much, but the contract extension did cost a lot. 119 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: They also added Drew Dollman. 120 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: I didn't pick him at center, but they tried to 121 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: improve the interior line for that team, and to me, 122 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: he is just like an immediate difference maker for that 123 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: offensive line. 124 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's steady Eddy. And again not his fault. 125 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: He had to kick out and play tackle. That's not 126 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: what he is. Who he is, especially at this point 127 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: time in his career, but more than a functioning interior 128 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: offensive lineman. And that's the whole emphasis. This year, it's 129 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: the evaluate Caleb Williams year, and so everything was done 130 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: with that in mind. Let's protect him in the interior, 131 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: Let's get him some weapons which we'll get to here 132 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: in a little bit. 133 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: Let's hear it. 134 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm going to jump around. I want to 135 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: jump around today. I don't want to get too locked 136 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: in on one team. I want to bounce. 137 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: Is it awkward we're here in the studio. You're used 138 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: to just looking at me, you know, in a TV screen. 139 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: It's a lot of eye contact right now. 140 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: Actually, I have normal people skills, so it doesn't really 141 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: impact me as much. I don't know what you're dealing 142 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: with over there, but fine by me. I'm gonna go 143 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: Matthew Golden for the for the green Bay Packers to 144 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: get one low hanging fruit here, first round pick out 145 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: of Texas. That the draft went nuts there in Green 146 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: Bay when they finally selected a receiver in the first round, 147 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: that that was a fun moment. But I go back 148 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: to Golden, and we talked about him in the run 149 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: up to the draft. The speed you know, he ran 150 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: in the four twos, and I think people kind of 151 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: look at that and go, Okay, this is just a vertical, 152 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 2: you know, take the top off guy. But I watched 153 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: him before he'd run the forty and I did not 154 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: think he would run, you know, quite that fast. But 155 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: someone with toughness instincts. He has some routes savvy to him. 156 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: We always talk about, you know, staying grounded through the catch. 157 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: Guys that run through the ball means they trust their 158 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: hands and that gives you a lot of yak opportunities 159 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: there as well. So I thought he was a really, 160 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: really good player. He was my top receiver if you 161 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: put Travis Hunter in his own little box in this 162 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: last draft. So I feel like this Green Bay Packers 163 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: team has been team of robins, like a bunch of 164 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: number twos, really good number twos. I think that Matthew 165 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: Golden has a chance to be a batman for him. 166 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like that is what they hope, especially coming 167 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: out of training camp when you just hear about the 168 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: target distribution at practice, the snap distribution at practice. 169 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: He is getting the. 170 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Volume of looks from Jordan Love and certainly snaps with 171 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: the first team. They didn't waste time being like you 172 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: got to earn your spot. Now he's just like out 173 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: there right away and reportedly looking like the best receiver 174 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: on the team. And I've been interested to hear that. 175 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: You know, they're using him in creative ways too, like 176 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: some of the end rounds and stuff that you see 177 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Jayden Reid doing like he is athletic enough to do 178 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. So I'm really I'm really excited, 179 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: because how do you cause to me he matches up 180 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: well with Jordan Love? How do you think they fit? 181 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: You know? The funny thing is, I'm looking at the 182 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: first word of my notes and then the last word 183 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: of my notes, so and again, think about this guy 184 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: ran four two nine. The first word is polish. That 185 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: he played with polish, which sometimes it takes guys years 186 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: to get to that point. I thought he was there 187 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: at the college level. And the last word I have 188 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: was rely. So if you're trying to get the trust 189 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: of your quarterback, you got to be able to do 190 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: two things. You got to be able to separate which 191 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: route polish is what allows you to do that, and 192 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: then you've got to be where you're supposed to be 193 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: and be on the same page. He's intelligent, he's smart. 194 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: I think that's how you get a quarterback's attention in favor, 195 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: and I think he's already done that. 196 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 197 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: I thought he made a lot of tough grabs too 198 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: at Texas, and Jordan Love is not afraid to throw 199 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: it into those tight windows. You said, you're jumping all around. 200 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: I like a theme. I like staying with the same team. 201 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm going with another arch like your bye jacket. 202 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: You like structure, Let's go keep it going. This This 203 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: is a total I don't know, drum like hung back there. 204 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Structure, thirty five dollars Unicode jacket. It's a totally fine, 205 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: thirty five dollar Unicola jacket. Aaron Banks is an offensive 206 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: guard that sign with the Packers for massive money, like 207 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: more than anyone expected. 208 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: Five years, seventy seven million dollars. 209 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: And I think that just told you what the Packers 210 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: believe they needed more than anything, which to me was 211 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: a surprise because I think of their offensive line as 212 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: one of the strengths of their team, and it brings 213 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: up an idea of this theory I'm gonna throw at you, Okay, okay, 214 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter specifically, but the Eagles pass rush in general, 215 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: like changed so many teams as offseason plans and got 216 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: people paid, so I think they helped get. 217 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: Aaron Banks played. 218 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: Like the interior of that offensive line was so bad 219 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: in that game, they were like, we just got to 220 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: throw more money at it. 221 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: We're putting us. 222 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: When Elton Jenkins got folded up in the. 223 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: That didn't help, and they and now they're moving Jenkins, 224 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: who who was in the interior, but now he's going 225 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: to play center. The next week, I thought bo Limmer 226 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: was was this young player who played pretty well for 227 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: the Rams, and suddenly at the end of the game, 228 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter wins a game for him, He's getting benched. 229 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: Now they had to bring in their old friend Coleman Shelton. 230 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: Next week, Commanders, they did a little better, but they 231 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: invested in the offensive line more at the tackle position 232 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: and moving some guys inside, and then we you know, 233 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They went into the offseason just like knowing 234 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: they had to invest there too. It was like Carter 235 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: and the Eagles single handedly changed how this entire offseason 236 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: went because of what they did. 237 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say probably stress even more so 238 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: just the Eagles. I mean, Carter had the finisher against 239 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: the Rams, but a lot those games wasn't just him. 240 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: I mean they were getting whooped across the offensive line. 241 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: And we've talked about the Chiefs in the previous episode 242 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: that the tackle play cost him maybe potentially two Super Bowls. 243 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: So Jalen Carter, Yes, but I just think the whole 244 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: dynamic of the defensive line saying, you know, a quarterback 245 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: can can be a you know, for breeze and make 246 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: a lot of things go away, I'll find, but not 247 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: when you're going up against the defensive line like that. 248 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: And Banks is an interesting guy that I think even 249 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers who wanted to keep them, which 250 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: is a good sign, Like we're maybe surprised how far 251 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: the Packers went, but I wanted to bring them up 252 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: here just because I think it's a really good offensive 253 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: line on paper. Zach Tom who is there, Elton Jenkins, 254 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: and you add Banks to that group like they're always 255 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: greater than the sum of their parts, and to meet 256 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: that that's the key for them this year. 257 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: That's a good one. I like that one. Let's jump 258 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: to one that This is the one that I struggled 259 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: with was Minnesota trying to find one. I didn't want 260 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: to just again go all first round picks. So this one, 261 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: I know the receiver group that they have, okay, but 262 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: type Felton to me when I go back through and 263 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: look at my notes and see what he can do, 264 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: I think he's going to factor in for this team 265 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: this year. And look, with Addison being suspended to start 266 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: the season, we'll see if that gives him more opportunities. 267 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: But to go in in the scouting report here coming 268 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: out of Maryland, he's six one, he's one hundred and 269 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: eighty three pounds, he ran four three seven. I go 270 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: through my notes. He's productive, he can play inside and outside. 271 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: He's tough, he wins in traffic. You'll see him build 272 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: speed down the field. He plays fearless, He works in 273 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: the middle of the field. He has some goal line 274 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: fade wins. There's a lot of things if you think 275 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: about you know, Koc and what he values in receivers, 276 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: like the fearlessness, the working in the middle of the field. 277 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: And then you add on to that, this guy's a legit. 278 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: You know, sub four four high four to three guy. 279 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: As a third round pick, the one hundred and second pick, 280 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: he was my eighty second ranked player. I thought it 281 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: was value there and I just got a feeling ty 282 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: Felton's going to factor in. 283 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: The opportunities wide open for him. How are his hands? 284 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Remember anything in particular? 285 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: Care about him plucking in traffic and winning in traffic. 286 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: That's prepared. 287 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: There have been some reports early like you know, he's 288 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: he's a rookie at training camp and he's fighting the 289 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: ball a little bit as as he's you know, figuring 290 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: out that offense without Addison there and Justin Jefferson has 291 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: been out of practice. 292 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: Like they it is wide open. 293 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor might be a guy who's been solid as 294 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: a number three, but stretched if they're asking him to 295 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: do more, and then other than that, it's wide open 296 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: for Felton to take that spot. 297 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: They have Rondell Moore on the roster. 298 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: They have Lucky Jackson is taking starter STAPs and not 299 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: overly familiar with with Lucky's work, but he's been in 300 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: a couple of camps with them. 301 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: I like him. I have him as my favorite to 302 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: win the World Series of Poker. 303 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with the Vikings then because I know 304 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm just sticking with the theme here and this will 305 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: be the last offensive lineman I talk about. Okay, two, 306 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm count I'm counting them as a pair. So when 307 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: they brought in Will Fries the Guard to a big contract, 308 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: they outbid a couple teams. Giants and Seahawks were both 309 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: in on Will Fryes, and they outbit them and they 310 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: brought in his teammate, Ryan Kelly. I thought, oh, that's 311 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: that's cool. What a coincidence that that happened. But it 312 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a coincidence. Dj They wanted to get signed together, 313 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: and they talked about that with prospective teams. They were 314 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: hoping to find a fit, which you would think would 315 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: be almost impossible. Two teammates, Ryan Kelly, longtime really good 316 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: center for the Colts, and then fries who's a little younger. 317 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: But they found that fit with the Vikings. And I 318 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: love that because these two guys already worked together. So 319 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm cheating and including them as my five impact players 320 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: as one person because they kind of cheated and came 321 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: over for the Vikings together. And to me, that really 322 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: improves what was probably the weakest spot of their team 323 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: last year, the interior offense. 324 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, bring a buddy. Why not bring a buddy? And 325 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: that was again an emphasis for a lot of these 326 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: teams that are knocking on the door to get where 327 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: they want to go, of saying the offensive line's got 328 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: to be better, It's. 329 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Like, if you're going to a new place, you got it. 330 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: You got to bring friends that's why you know with 331 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: the whole new ESPN thing, you got to keep forties 332 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and free agents together. 333 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: Me and Jeremiah, I don't know. 334 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: There's the linear in the digits. It's just complicated. It's confusing. 335 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: The last thing I do want to say about this, 336 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: I have a formula for surprise teams every year. You 337 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: can tell me what you think it's not. It's not 338 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: too analytically sound. 339 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: Okay, give it. I've got my pen ready. What's your formula. 340 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: I write down my list of the top offensive lines 341 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: and defensive lines in the league. I do it one 342 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: to thirty two, and I add those two numbers together. 343 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: And the teams that have the lowest numbers that maybe 344 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: maybe aren't viewed as as true contenders, those are the 345 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: teams I kind of pick for like a surprise team. 346 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: And to me, the Vikings would qualify potentially for that team. 347 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: I think they've improved on their offensive line, They've already 348 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: were good on the defensive line. I could I could 349 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: mention their defensive line pickups two and so they might 350 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a surprise. 351 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: So it's interesting that your theory. No, this is a 352 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: compliment because I usually at the quarter mark like four 353 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: games in, which now doesn't work with a seventeen game schedule, 354 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: but games in. One of the things I'll look at 355 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: for teams that I want to project forward is I'll 356 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: just go to seck differential. Yeah, it's pretty basic. 357 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, like, so your 358 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: big brain theory is that the teams that are good 359 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: in the trenches are good at football. 360 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: Like no, but we're saying the same thing. But like 361 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: you can look at, Okay, who's added personnel here, and 362 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: then to me you get four Maybe we go six 363 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: games into the season, you say, who's getting to the quarterback? 364 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: Who's protecting the quarterback? That usually ages pretty well. 365 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: It's why I've almost always picked the Eagles to make 366 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the conference championship games, even in the seasons where it 367 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: didn't work out well, because at the beginning of the year, 368 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm like. 369 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: Well that that looks pretty good. 370 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: And the Broncos, for instance, where a team last year 371 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: I remember going into the season like that offensive line 372 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: and defensive line is it's pretty good. 373 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: And then there was one of the teams they do 374 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: this with this way. 375 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: So when I was with the Ravens, young guy, we 376 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: would go through in the summer and we would take 377 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: every team and go position by a position and we 378 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: you know, grade everybody out, and then we would look 379 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: at it and we would kind of look and you'd 380 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: see we did this with the Chargers, like right before 381 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: the Chargers with that run that they went on when 382 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: they got you know, with the offensive line and you 383 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: had Gates and lt and. 384 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: The Schottenheimer and then it was like dealman, it was McNeil. 385 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: Like in h they had Castillo on the defensive line 386 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: of Marrion. But anyways, this was that young group and 387 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: we looked at it before that season where they really 388 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: kind of took off and popped in our personality, like 389 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: they got a lot of talent up front on both sides. 390 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: I could be in one of those rooms you'll hear 391 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: more just brilliant insights like that. Right after this break, 392 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: we'll wrap up the rest of the NFC North. All right, 393 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: we are back on forties and free agents. I'm getting 394 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: some quality FaceTime with the man, Daniel Jeremiah, the Chargers broadcaster, 395 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: one of the busiest man and show business in the 396 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: regular season, because you got you got to watch the 397 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: NFL games and you got to start working on your 398 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: college tape that's really now all directed towards the forties 399 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: and free agencies, and that's the main part of your Yeah, just. 400 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: Trying to make sure that this show and this little 401 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: thing we've built here continues to grow. Everything else in 402 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: my life is just put off to the side as 403 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: we try and get this thing actually keep it going. 404 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: I think it's off the ground, right, It's good we're 405 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: doing off the ground, are we. 406 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: I think we're entering our second year after a very 407 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: promising rookie year. I think we got offensive Rookie of 408 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: the Year votes. We didn't win it, slump, Yeah, but worried. 409 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: We're hoping. No, we're hoping to make the leap. All right, 410 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: give me another one of your rookies in the inn, 411 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: all right. 412 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: So I've got two more to go and then i'll 413 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: get to my wildcard. But the two that I have left, 414 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put them together because it's the same team, 415 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: but it's one of the most intriguing offenses coming up 416 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: in this season. That's the Bears, and that's Colston Lovlin, 417 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: who I think has got a chance to really be 418 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: a Laporta type piece chess piece here and playmaker and 419 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's system. It's just such an easy connection to 420 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 2: make with how they use Laporta and how they can 421 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: use Loveland similar type players. And then Luther Burden, who's 422 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: someone who had first round ability didn't go in the 423 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: first round out of Missouri. But you know, Keenan Allen's 424 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: not there anymore. So how is this all going to 425 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: get divvied up? I think to me, not only I 426 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: think these guys are gonna have impact, but I'm fascinated 427 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: with Roman Dunza and DJ Moore. How does this whole 428 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: thing get shared? Like if you're going to say, who 429 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: are going to be the statistical leaders amongst that group, 430 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: and how's the share the target share going to go, 431 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm maybe more fascinating with this team than any other. 432 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: I have no idea how that is going to go, obviously, 433 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if they do. 434 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: Right. 435 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: I think Colston Lovelin is gonna be a piece, And 436 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: you just can hear in the way that Ben Johnson 437 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: talks about him, and he's. 438 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: Perfect, He's already had him. It's proof of concept. 439 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: It like in August two after actually getting him on 440 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: the field because he was overcoming an injury, in the 441 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: early part of the offseason program. Just the way he 442 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: talks about lovel and like that's his guy. I think 443 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna be to use a Rams term, a weight 444 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: bearing wall for this offense for a while. Luther Burton 445 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: is more of a confusing guy to me. So maybe 446 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: you can explain Luther Burden more, because when I watched 447 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: him on tape, you can see that he can he 448 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: has great movement skills, But I just he seems like 449 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: a guy who's like, I don't know, I don't know. 450 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Is this going to work at the NFL level? Is 451 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: he different enough? Or could there be like a Cadarius 452 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: Tony type of vibe there, which isn't all bad. 453 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he helped out a Super. 454 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: Bowl champions Well, I mean, look, there was some talk 455 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: about him going through the draft process, the maturity thing, 456 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: so that was a factor for some teams. But when 457 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: you watch him, the quarterback play was not great there 458 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: his last year in Missouri. The year before it was 459 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: more productive. Had a better looking year on tape. But 460 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: he's someone in the slot who's athletic. He's quick, a 461 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: lot of quick hitters, a lot of run after catch, 462 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: He's got strong, reliable hands and where he was working 463 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: out in the pre draft process. There's a lot of 464 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: guys throwing and working out there, and the reports I 465 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: got back were his hands were the best of all 466 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: these guys that were working out there, just real strong, 467 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: reliable hands. He can make miss after the catch. I 468 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: think that's where he's going to factor in. It's going 469 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: to be a lot of run after catch stuff. But 470 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm the last note I had him. Man, there's a 471 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: lot of bad balls when you're watching him at Missouri 472 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: last year. 473 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would assume that Caleb Williams it will be 474 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: throwing to him a not much nicer past this year. 475 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: And Dj Moore is there. I do wonder how that 476 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: all fits, do you think? I look at them and 477 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: bet there too. I mean right, I see them as 478 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: a little duplicative. The reports out of camp so far 479 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: are that Roma Dunze is making a nice year two leap, 480 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: and I think they're here that they're really county on him. 481 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: And you would think, just because these guys are more experienced, 482 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: and then you have the two tight ends come out 483 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: and Loveland, I would guess those four guys would be 484 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: in line ahead of Burden and that's not a bad thing. 485 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: I wonder long term, there wasn't good vibes there in 486 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room necessarily by all accounts last year. 487 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: So you just hope everyone can stay happy and get 488 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: enough target. 489 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: I wonder if it's kind of the Jamison Williams plan 490 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: for him trajectory wise, you see Ben Jons kind of 491 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: gave Hi a little bit more, a little bit more 492 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: as you kind of went along, and then he has 493 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: a role where you can flip him or reverse or 494 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: you can take some shots and do that with him. 495 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: So again, this is why he factored in for me 496 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: is curious. I don't know what that's going to look like. 497 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see it too. I'm going to 498 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: go with another Bears player. Let's just go heavy on 499 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: the Bears. I'm making an audible because Grady Jarrett was 500 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: one of my favorite defensive tackles to watch at his 501 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: very best, and it wasn't that long ago with the Falcons, 502 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: and so I do think at thirty years old, he 503 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: is a really big X factor for the Chicago Bears. 504 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: So I mentioned about, you know, investing in lines, and 505 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: that was a theme across this entire division. They did 506 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: it on the offensive line, and they did it on 507 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: the defensive line. 508 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: They also added a. 509 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: Dio from the Colts who could be a good kind 510 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: of supplementary edge rusher. But to me, Jarrett turning the 511 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: clock back, and he got a big contract. There was 512 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: interest in him. They had to pay him quickly. It 513 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: was one of those weird cuts DJ. I don't know 514 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: if you were ever involved in one of these where 515 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: he got cut and the very next day the guy 516 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: signed a monster contract, which is like. 517 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 2: Oh, how that works out? 518 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: Well, It's like, should we have maybe kept him or 519 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: gotten some sort of trade compensation for him? 520 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: Can I give you I'll give you a minute to 521 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: find it. But what pick was Grady Jarrett when he 522 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: came out? Because I'm going back through this is the 523 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen draft, and I'm looking at my notes on 524 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: a young Grady Jarrett who was just under six foot one, 525 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: three hundred and four pounds, ran five oh six one 526 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: Tech three tech ultra quick first step, he can slip blocks, 527 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: He penetrates plays on the other side of the line 528 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. What what pick was he? 529 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: One thirty seven? 530 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: How many years is inn? 531 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: This is eleven now? And I misspoke? 532 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: I think I was thinking of Hargrave as thirty, who 533 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: was another free agent in this position, in this division. 534 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: He is thirty two years old. 535 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: Though Grady Jarrett was my forty fourth player in that draft. 536 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: That's that's now on the back. 537 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: Every now and then you get one every now and then. 538 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 3: That is that is awesome, and it's. 539 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: You know why, you know why, I'm not going to 540 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: overly brag about it. Why because the two guys ahead 541 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: of him were Cam Irving and Jay Jaie. That's the draft. 542 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. 543 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: Jaji, super Bowl champion Philadelphia. 544 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: A nice run, had a nice run, had some moments. 545 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: Give me another one. I'll give you another one. Yeah, well, 546 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: you know what I wanted too. 547 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna talk I talk about more about Grady Jarrett. 548 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: I just think that sort of player late in his career, 549 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: it can give you such a shot of adrenaline if 550 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: he can kind of turn the clock back. And when 551 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: he's been healthy, he has looked good. All right, I 552 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: will give you a Detroit Lion hadn't thrown out one 553 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: of them yet. DJ Reid is a guy that every 554 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: spot that he's been he's a cornerback that was first 555 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. And then with the Jets, everyone that 556 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: covers the team closest, every coach with the team, every 557 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: player on the team, they always go out of their 558 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: way to tell you, you know who's better than everyone thinks. 559 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: You know, who's a really great cornerback, DJ Reid. A 560 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of people covering the Jets last year and the 561 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: analytics at least would support it, would say like DJ 562 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: Reid might have been their best cornerback at least in 563 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: terms of consistency. I would certainly not go that far. 564 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: And the Jets gave Sauce Gardener his money for a reason. 565 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: But I think you look at the Lions and they 566 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: wanted to keep Carlton Davis and it didn't happen. 567 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 3: He got big money in New England. 568 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: I think they did very well to sign DJ Reid 569 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: at that cornerback spot and really give them some stability. 570 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Not a guy i've heard anyone talking about this offseason 571 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: or even in trading camp, and I think could really 572 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: figure into some big time playoff games for the line. 573 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: Three years, forty eight million. So it wasn't chump change 574 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: that they gave him there. And this is someone who 575 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 2: can go nose to nose play man, that's what they 576 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: like to do. It's one of the intriguing things to 577 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: me with Terry on Arnold to see what this looks 578 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: like for him in his second year, because the penalties 579 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: with him a lot of times is because he was 580 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: back to the quarterback, you know, playing press man down 581 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: the field and there was a little panic sometimes when 582 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: the ball was up in the air. And at Alabama 583 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: he could play a little bit more top down see things. 584 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see how they utilize him this year. 585 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: But if you want to just go nose to nose, 586 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: play man to man and let him go cover, I 587 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: mean DJ Reidy can do that. 588 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: And they've already lost a little bit of depth. Nsrakestraw, 589 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: who was a relatively high pick a couple of years ago, 590 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: was going to be a depth piece for them, but 591 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: he is out for. 592 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: The season, torched in the first preseason injured reserve. 593 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: His career hadn't gotten off to a good start to 594 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: begin with, and they're going to be okay as long 595 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: as they can stay healthy there. But DJ Reid is 596 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: someone who watched I like, how Dj I could you 597 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: know I was going to go back to the Jarrett 598 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: point and you're like, move it along a little bit. 599 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: You still got that quarterback in you. 600 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: Let's good, let's go, let's get to the line of scrimmage. 601 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: I get the play called. 602 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: Here man still running the show, so that means we 603 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: have one last little segment in this show, and it's 604 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: what I like to call a wild card pick, so 605 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: you can go anywhere. 606 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: The image, by the way, if you're listening of Greg, 607 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: that I would give you in this discussion is if 608 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: you go to like a high school game, and sometimes 609 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: you get the call from the sidelines, right, so the 610 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: ten guys are lined up to call the play, the 611 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: ball snapped, and then the eleventh guy's still looking over 612 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: at the sideline because know that you didn't get the 613 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: signal yet and we've already run the play. That's Greg. 614 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you can make that analogy, or you can 615 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: look at the experience that I have, the amount of 616 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: podcasts I have put out into the ether in the 617 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: last decade plus, Wen. 618 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: And you can watch think Eclipse a thousand. 619 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know the medium, and it's a medium 620 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: that breathes a little bit. It can be long, it 621 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be you know, thirty minutes and let's 622 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: go get our lunch. You know, you can have fun, 623 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: go go a little back and forth. So I'm trying 624 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: to bring that to you, and I appreciate you bringing the. 625 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: Some of us have to some of us have to 626 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: cover a preseason game. I do my wildcard, please my wildcard. 627 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: I won't spend long time on it. Tyler Williams defensive tackle. Yes, so, 628 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Tyler Williams is a little bit of a surprise. He 629 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: went in the first round. I thought he probably is 630 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: a Day two guy. Second round. All the ability in 631 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: the world when he wants to turn it on, it's 632 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: all in there. Very physical and strong and powerful out 633 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: of Ohio State. There were just moments where I didn't 634 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: think his motor always ran super hot. And the interesting 635 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: thing is, you know, if you go back and look, 636 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot to criticize when Piney Seuel was 637 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: coming out of Oregon, but there were some moments where 638 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: you could watch him and say, Okay, he maybe picked 639 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: a spot here there, And that is absolutely not a question. 640 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he plays as hard as physical, maybe the 641 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: most physical offensive line in the NFL right now. So 642 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: they've they've done this in the past, so we'll see 643 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: what Tyler Williams looks like on the d line. 644 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: The reports out of camp have been awesome. He is 645 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: playing with the first team. Now that's partly because of injuries, 646 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: but I think that points out early in the season. 647 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: You know, when the rest of the guys, like Ali 648 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: McNeil's still coming back from an injury. 649 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: Who did they lose? 650 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: They lost on Muza Rique for the season, So you're 651 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: going to be watching some big time games early. It's 652 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Chicago, Baltimore, and Tyler Gwayams might already be 653 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: out there. 654 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad. 655 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm glad he threw him out there. 656 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: Wal Card I do a daily show and he's one 657 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: of those guys that I think we've mentioned one time, 658 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, we should mention Tyler Williams. That's why, 659 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: that's why you're good. I mentioned I'm mentioning Jordan Mason 660 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Oh nice, the former forty nine 661 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: ers running back who the Vikings acquired for a Day 662 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: three pick. Was just a quiet acquisition. Gave him a 663 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: nice but very manageable just a couple of years for 664 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: I think it was like eight million dollars total contract 665 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: extension and he's going to share the workload with Aaron Jones. 666 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones is on board by all accounts. 667 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: It's going to be a fifty to fifty slip split 668 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: and try to keep Aaron Jones as fresh as possible 669 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: for the end of the season. And I just thought, man, 670 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: this is a guy that runs hard and you don't 671 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: have to spend a lot of money, and you know 672 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: you're getting a really good player. 673 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: So I thought that was a nice pick up with 674 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: the Vikings. Oh, I like that one. I would never 675 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: even have thought of that one. This is one of 676 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: those ones where you kind of you hear the name, 677 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I kind of forgot about them. But 678 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: by the way you're looked, that's what I'm going for. 679 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: I want to know what your look is. I just 680 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: figured it out. Yeah, remember Evil Michael Knight on night. 681 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: Right now, No, this is I was gonna say, this 682 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: is where our age difference shows up. But I think 683 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: we're the same age. You just have older references in JA. 684 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: I know that's older. I know, and I know Night 685 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: Rider is. Look it up, Drew, just look it up, 686 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: just the Evil Michael Knight. Just look up the picture 687 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: of it and just mean to get him that little 688 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: go tee to go with this little skinny go tea 689 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: on the chair. 690 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: You know, not all of us can be you know, 691 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: project like the wholesome Daniel Jeremiah. His kids are all 692 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: like going to college now image and I don't know, 693 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, we all. 694 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Different things are good. Look, it's a good look. 695 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: You will hear us next later this week, and yeah, 696 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: we'll keep the theme going. We're going to talk about 697 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: the AFC North and who knows, maybe I'll even have 698 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: a change of clothes and not go with the evil 699 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: night Rider. 700 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: Look, next time. 701 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: The six people didn't know what night Writer is, but Doug, 702 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm here for you. Six people. 703 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. That's how you go, free agents. 704 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: We have a blossom reference next time.