1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Col Zone Media. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis, joined 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: by James Stout. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: Hello, I get what are we What are we learning about? Today? 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: We are going to be learning about a man named 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: James Fishback. 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: Okay, good first name. 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've wanted to get someone kind of unbiased, 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: but I now understand unfortunately that you might be might 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: be just kind of, you know, drawn drawn to him. 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've come here to defend the James name. 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that defense will last very long. I okay. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: James Fishback is a former hedge fun analyst who's been 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: worming his way into the political world of the new 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: Right during the past two to three years. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm giving up on that one. Already. Got no 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: interest in defending this guy. 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: If you're active on you know, any kind of political feeds, 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: whether that's you know, short short form video, blue sky, Twitter, 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: you've probably seen a video or two of James Fishback. 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: But this episode, we're gonna dive a little bit more 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: into his background at his current political activities, which includes 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: some things you probably haven't heard before. So James Fishback 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: has tried to attach himself to a lot of you 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: know various aspects of the new right. He attempted to 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: attach himself to the presidential campaign of a Vek Ramaswami 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: back in the uldie days. 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah remember when. 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: But he did so just by like showing up at 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: campaign staff events. He wasn't a staffer, like, he just 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: kept like appearing. He asked, like, stay overnight at a 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: hotel that this staff was all staying at for this 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: campaign event in Florida, and tried to build a personal 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: rapport with the VEC over a few months, and eventually 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Fishback outstayed is welcome. He then pivoted to becoming what 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: I would call a D tier right wing comic and 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: an advocate of Doge. In twenty twenty five, Fishback was 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: a frequent guest on like news networks CNN, Fox and others, 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: speaking as a quote unquote Doge advisor. Huh, a role 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: that he never officially had great never actually worked with Doge. 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: His quote unquote advising was through adding Elon Musk on 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Twitter with random suggestions. 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, just at least literally in their comments online. 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, his Doge claim to fame is that he 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: came up with this idea of the Doge dividend, which 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: is like a stimulus type check that the government would 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: send to people based on the savings that they found 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: or created through slashing government agencies. 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: Cool. 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: So that was his idea that he added Elon Musk about, 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: and this idea gained some traction and this this kind 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: of boosted his image as a quote unquote Doge advisor 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: and helped him trick news agencies into boosting his public 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: profile by associating him with Doge. Eventually, this led to 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Doge official Katie Miller, wife of Steven Miller, having to 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: clarify in July of twenty twenty five that Fishback was 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: not involved with Doge in any way, but he got 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 2: a lot of traction off of this Doge advisor thing 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: right back when Ramaswami left Doge. 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's forgotten that he did. Wow, how time flies. 61 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: Before the inauguration, because he was planning on and is 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: planning on running for governor of Ohio, Fishback tried to 63 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: put his name in as like a hey, all become 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: the co chair of dog elon since my pal Ramaswami 65 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: is going to be busy. That also, you know, did 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: not did not work obviously. 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, what needy guy. 68 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: He's just very very needy, very clingy, yeah, paid, very parasocial. Yes, 69 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: And after Katie Miller released a statement being like this 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: guy's not part of dog, Fishback began lobbying Trump for 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: the vacant seat on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: Really no shame. 73 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: Based on his you know, credentials as this like patriotic 74 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: America first investor right, who's worked at a hedge fund 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: or two and tried tried to get his way onto 76 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: the SPACAN seat. When that didn't turn out, obviously, Fishback 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: set his sights on his home state of Florida, launching 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: what I would call a groiper style campaign for governor cool. 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: And this is what we're going to be discussing for 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: the rest of this episode. 81 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: I'm not like intimately familiar with the grouper space, but 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: this seems to be like the most kind of like 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: Beata behavior to constantly like notice me, uh, I forget 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: what that's a wedd that begins. 85 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: With sick me? 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: No, yeah, it could be pick me. I guess it's 87 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: like a notice met sempi or something that people say. 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: I never expected you to say noticed me. 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've unfortunately I've been on the internet too, Like 90 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: that's what he seems, right, he seems like extremely uh yes, yeah, 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: this is like I think what will be coded as 92 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: like beata behavior in the. 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now he's kind of trying to do this 94 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: with when Tesen the Gropers, although to this point more successfully. Okay, 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: he's actually more successfully ingratiated himself with the Groper's space. 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: On Tucker Carlson interview, he talked about how the Twitter 97 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: account sorry x account af news or af post it's 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: America first post America first News was a part of 99 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: his like political radicalization towards the sort of Groper's style 100 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: of politics. This is like a news aggregation account that 101 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: promotes far right nationalist talking points through and like framing 102 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: through various news stories. A lot of people used to 103 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: share a post with this account, like not knowing its 104 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: political orientation, just because it was very active as a 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: news aggregation source. 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a few of those on Twitter, like 107 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: bno news is another one that used. Yeah, they aggregates 108 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: from repost stuff. 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: And you know, Fishback has pointed to this as being 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: a part of his like a Graper style red pilling. 111 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: Is the activity of this. 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Account to get a sense of his kind of very 113 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: graper online background, or at least like a place within 114 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: the New Right. I'm going to read a tweet of 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: his from February eighth, twenty twenty six. Quote, as Florida governor, 116 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: I will refuse to let sub human gesters spike our 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: collective cortisol, not even once. Also, no foids or egirls unquote. 118 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: How much of that do you understand? 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: James, I got cortisol. I'm familiar, all right. 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, this is using the kind of currently 121 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: trendy like looks Maxing terms the jester, which has been 122 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: used a lot since Clinocular's stream with Fuentes and sneak 123 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: O at that club where they played the Kanye hal 124 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: Hitler song. Spiking cortisol is a frequent way that people 125 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: in the looksack in space refer to your stress being raised, 126 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: especially like through politics, like through politics raising your stress. Okay, 127 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: And voids and egirls is just like misogynistic ways to 128 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: refer to women coming out of like the in cell space. Okay, 129 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: so you know this this post is you know, kind 130 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: of a joke, but it's also signaling to a certain 131 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: a certain type of person that hey, I'm your guy. 132 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I speak your language. 133 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: And it's also just really annoying. Right, He's trying to 134 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: be off putting on purpose because that will drive attention 135 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: to him from people who don't like him. And you know, 136 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: in trying to cover him in this episode, you know, 137 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying to like ride that line of not just 138 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: unnecessarily giving him publicity because he has outrageous things, but 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: then also framing his rising profile within a certain like context, 140 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: which is groper candidates popping up more and more frequently 141 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: across the United States. 142 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: So, in terms of Florida, de Santists can't run for 144 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: another term. 145 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: He is term limited. 146 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: The clear front runner to succeed Dysantis is US representative 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: from Florida by Donald's who has Trump's endorsement. Last month, 148 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Governor j Collins also announced a run for governor. 149 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: But Fishback is not a non player in this race, 150 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: and his candidacy displays attention within the Republican Party between 151 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: the former Tea Party and classical MEGA wing, which is 152 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: now the effective conservative establishment, and this New America First wing, 153 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: which takes some of Mega's originating principles to their far 154 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: right nationalist conclusion. I talked about this tension last year 155 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: in the episodes about Nick Fuentez's interview with Tucker Carlson 156 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: and this surge of Graper adjacent gen Z staffers filling 157 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: out the ranks of the Republican machine in DC. Now, 158 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: Fishback is one of the first candidates to draw a 159 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: lot of attention by essentially running as a Graper candidate. 160 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: Depending on how well he does, it could indicate how 161 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: successful this politics can be when presented in front of 162 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: Republican voters. The primary election isn't doneuntil August. There's not 163 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: tons of polling yet on this race, like let alone 164 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: from established pollsters. But as of late January, Fishback's most 165 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: favorable pole puts him fifteen points behind front runner Byron 166 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: Donald's according to quote unquote Patriot polling. Meanwhile, Donald's own 167 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: sponsored poll puts them upwards of forty two points ahead 168 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: of Fishback around the new year. So all this stuff 169 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: is really out of date, and Fishback certainly has risen 170 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: his profile since then, But we're still waiting on like 171 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: reliable polls to come out. Yeah, but he's certainly getting 172 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: a lot of headlines and is doing a successful job 173 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: in raising his public profile. Now part of Fishback's strategy 174 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: to raise his public profile and like name recognition both 175 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: in Florida and nationally, it seems to be just through 176 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: generating controversy, very similar to how Fuentes did this or 177 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: the more recent social ascension of the looks Maxims streamer 178 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: clvicular earlier this month, Fishback claimed that a fire was 179 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: quote intentionally set in his sideyard, prompting him to do 180 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: a publicity stunt where he walked out of his porch 181 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: holding an AR fifteen style rifle above his head, promising 182 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: to shoot anyone who attempts to harm him and his staff. 183 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: I will share a clip. 184 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: I've seen this one. I'm excited to wash it again there. 185 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 5: If you come back to this home and our staff, 186 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 5: our volunteers are working hard. We're not waiting for the police. 187 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 5: We're gonna shoot you with an AR fifteen sight on scene. 188 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: Five five six. 189 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we're going to do. It's very simple. 190 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: Shall not be infringe? 191 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: We have a right. It's just a bunch of woods, 192 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: they saying, like not in any particular. 193 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't make much sense. 194 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: It doesn't know it. It's also five point five six 195 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: able to call it five five six bit, yeah, fascinating, 196 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: two two three yeah, thirty round. Wait, doesn't actually have 197 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: a magazine in there? I noticed no, no, no, The 198 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: back sites folded down as well. It's for those familiar 199 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: with such things, a straight at the box Smith and 200 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: Western MP fifteen. It looks like he may have bought 201 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: it quite recently. 202 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: So this is one such incident where he tried to 203 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: generate some kind of publicity through this, you know, very 204 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: provocative gesture. But he's also done this through the language 205 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: he uses. Fishback refers to front runner Byron Donalds, who 206 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: is black as by Rone, which is just not his name, 207 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: and has said quote by Rone wants to turn Florida 208 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: into a Section eight ghetto unquote. He's also used Charlemagne's 209 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: nickname for Hakeem Jeffries a pack Schakur to refer to Donald's, 210 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: and has called Donald's a quote unquote slave to his 211 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: donors Jesus Christ. So yeah, a lot of stuff like that. 212 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 213 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: Fishback has proposed a fifty percent income tax on OnlyFans creators, 214 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: calling it a quote unquote syntax, and one of his 215 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: very first campaign videos was titled I'm running for Florida 216 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: governor to make the trains run on time. 217 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: Oh cool. 218 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: So this has not like generated tons of controversy in headlines. Yeah, 219 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: it's you know, caused some social media posters to be like, oh, 220 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: look at this guy clearly doing a Nazi dog whistle. 221 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: But then it's also signaled, you know, early early in 222 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: the campaign signaled to you know, grapers and people in 223 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: the very very far fringes of the right, has signaled 224 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: to them that hey, I'm going to be your guy. Yeah, 225 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: which in part he's doing so that he can count 226 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: on them to kind of do free, free publicity for him, right, 227 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: Like he wants to activate a certain type of overly 228 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: online young male to be like a public spokesperson to 229 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: like to just to boost his name recognition, and even 230 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: if he doesn't win in Florida in this race, it 231 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: at least help his career like nationally in some way. 232 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: So's he's counting on this, like a groper block to 233 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: do a lot of heavy lifting. And that's part of 234 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: why he does some of these very very late, gross 235 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: tongue in cheek stuff make them trains run on time? 236 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: Come on, dude. 237 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a clumsy dog whistle, right, it's embarrassing. 238 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: There's no like a sleight of hand here or whatever. 239 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: You know, he's just kind of blundering his way towards 240 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: being like look at me, Nazis. 241 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 242 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: Like this video he just talked about trying to bring 243 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: back the Amtrak to the Florida Panhandle. 244 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: It's like a one minute video. 245 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 3: Cool. 246 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: It had nothing to do about actually like making trains 247 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: run on time. It's about trying to return Amtrak to 248 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: a certain section of Florida. Fitchback has promised to quote 249 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: divest every penny from Israel on day one unquote, which 250 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: would include three hundred and eighty five million in foreign 251 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: bonds invested in by the state. And he's apposed to 252 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: adopting anti semitism ministions in schools that make it quote 253 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: unquote against the law to criticize Israel. 254 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 6: Uh. 255 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is where the hard right and the software 256 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 3: I bet, yeah, I'm sure it's Israel you'll concern with here, buddy, Yeah, No, 257 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: I bet. 258 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's not doing this out of you know, 259 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: principled stances of Palestinian solidarity. 260 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: And he just wants to do anti semitism like the 261 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: old fashioned way. 262 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and this can be displayed during a campaign event 263 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: at the University of Central Florida where Fishback discussed how 264 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: to make lunches in high school cafeterias more healthy. 265 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: Putant topic, what's with the. 266 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: Pop tarts in the Broward County public schools in the cafeterias. 267 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that the test scores are a result 268 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: of the pop tarts, But if you wanted kids to fail, 269 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: if you wanted to set up our kids for failure, 270 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: you would feed them the absolute boy slop in our cafeterias. 271 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: And that that is on gentile. 272 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: Okay, everyone's really excited to hear that. Hey, uh yep, wow. Yeah, 273 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: I mean the crowd is like, uh, they love it. Yeah, 274 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: but it also looks like they just derived from like 275 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: a Southern Florida be a pong invitational tournament. Like it's uh, 276 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: it's it's a lot of like frat boid type. 277 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a lot of the people who are who 278 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: consumed like the menosphere type content online. Yeah, short clips 279 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: of Nick Fuentes probably aren't regularly tuning into his like 280 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: three hour livestream on Rumble, but but engage with his 281 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: content through short clips online. Yeah, same thing with like 282 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: sneak o clvicular, Right, It's it's it's this type of 283 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: this type of influencer which has right wing politics, but 284 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: but they aren't like super invested in politics. It's it's this, 285 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: it's this mix of like post in cell male influencers 286 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: that combine right wing politics, and it's a very common 287 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: form of like entertainment for these people that we see 288 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: in the background this video. Right, it's a lot of 289 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: like call guys eighteen to twenty two. 290 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's mostly white men, yeah, from the traditional 291 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: college age. 292 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: Speaking of schools, In twenty twenty two, a Florida school 293 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: district cut ties with Fishback's debate organization after a female 294 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: student came forward with allegations at Fishback quote initiated a 295 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: romantic relationship unquote with her while she was working for 296 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: his student debate organization when she was seventeen years old 297 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: he was twenty seven. 298 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: Jesus. 299 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: The student claimed in. 300 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: A protection order request that after joining the debate organization 301 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: when she was sixteen, Fishback quote unquote systematically cultivated a 302 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: relationship with her by increasing quote unquote opportunities for personal interaction, 303 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: and that Fishback later quote unquote explicitly directed her to 304 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: keep the relationship a secret while she was working for 305 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: his school debate organization Jesus. After turning eighteen, she moved 306 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: in with fish Back. The two were briefly engaged. Fishback 307 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: denies the student's characterization of the relationship timeline. After the 308 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: girl broke up with him, Fishback allegedly sent hundreds of 309 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: unanswered texts to her over several days. This information comes 310 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: out of a harassment case that was later dismissed. The 311 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: case wasn't about the legality of their relationship, importantly, it 312 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: was about harassment after the two had broken up, where 313 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: these details emerged. 314 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, his debate organization, this is some kind of like 315 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: like plastic turning point. 316 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it kind of. 317 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 2: It was a Florida based debate organization in high schools 318 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: to encourage debate. 319 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: It was active around twenty twenty two. 320 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: It was bought by another company a year or two ago, 321 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: but in twenty twenty two a district ended cooperation with 322 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: this organization after news came out about this relationship. Yeah, 323 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: it is interesting considering the amount that Fishback and Fuentes 324 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: and these guys will talk about the Epstein files and 325 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: then have this in your Yeah. 326 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: Inappropriate relationships with underage women. 327 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: Yeah that work for you in your high school debate organization. 328 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that gives me the age in a substantial way. 329 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: Also kind of not that surprising from this kind of 330 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: area of the right, but it's still gross. 331 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time for an ad break, but we will 332 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: return to discuss fishbacks reoccurring campaign rhetoric and his promises 333 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: as governor. All Right, we're back. A big part of 334 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: Fishback's campaign targeting H one B visas. He promised on 335 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: day one as governor to fire as many H one 336 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: B workers as you can and to quote unquote incentivize 337 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: companies to hire Americans. Again, here's a radio appearance where 338 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: he discusses this. 339 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 6: On the first day in office, I would fire every 340 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 6: single H one B who works at a state agency. 341 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 6: Number two, if you have a state contract with Tallahassee, 342 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 6: I don't care if it's serving nils or serving up. 343 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: IT tech support. 344 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 6: You have twenty four hours to pick, as President Reagan said, Drew, 345 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 6: now is the time for choosing. 346 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: You got to pick. 347 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 6: Do you want your fifty million dollars a year state 348 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 6: contract from Tallahassee or do you want your fifty year 349 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 6: one hundred h one vs. 350 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: You pick. 351 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: You can't have both. There's no negotiating and you have 352 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 6: twenty four hours. That's how we create a culture that 353 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 6: stands up for the dignity of American workers. 354 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: That's an interesting approach, Like you can't get H one 355 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: B jobs not for federal government, but for state government. 356 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: I kind of imagine that, especially in Florida, there are very. 357 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: Many Well, he's not just concerned about H to one b's. 358 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: Fishback has also railed against student visas as a threat 359 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: to the American way of life, and has falsely said 360 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: that Trump plants descended two hundred thousand students from China 361 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: to Florida's public universities, which serve only about four hundred 362 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: and thirty thousand students. 363 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 3: So it'd be like forty five percent. 364 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: It's not real. That's just not true. 365 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was proposed as an idea, not Florida specifically. 366 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: But this was proposed in spring of twenty twenty five 367 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: as a negotiating tactic with China over tariffs. This isn't 368 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: a real thing. Since then, Fishback has promised to raise 369 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: tuition on all foreign students to one million dollars via 370 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: executive order. The governor cannot legally raise state school tuition 371 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: via executive order. 372 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: These are just words that he's saying. 373 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: Well, so like a lot of these state schools having 374 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: a certain number of students who are paying a higher fee, 375 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: be that the non US or out of state, like 376 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: it's integral to their budgeting, right, Like, yeah, they're not 377 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: making it on in state tuition. 378 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 2: Fishback has talked about all this in an interview on 379 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson's Internet show last month, where he said that 380 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: a child quote from Shenjin, who doesn't know what Florida 381 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: orange juice tastes like, can't possibly in an economic sense, 382 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: but I think I mean not to sound gay, but 383 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: in a spiritual sense, does not represent our state and 384 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: our heritage unquote. Tucker replied, that's the opposite of gay. Actually, 385 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: quote that's. 386 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 3: A head of an exchange of words. Again, like I'm 387 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: like a little lost here. 388 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a sizable faction of the 389 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: new right of of the of of the gropers who 390 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: are filling staffer positions at Heritage and in DC, Like 391 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: this is the sort of media environment like linkinguistic environment 392 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: that they that they are coming out of. Yeah, and 393 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 2: the pearl clutchy reaction is not useful here, right, I'm 394 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: not like who cares? 395 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 7: Right? 396 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: This is this is obviously embarrassing. 397 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: This is like a man in his thirties trying to 398 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: sound like a kind of homophobic eighteen year old who's 399 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: kind of only homophobic via like linguistic reflux. 400 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: This is like embarrassing cosplay. 401 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very cringe. 402 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 4: I can't even find this stuff offensive, Like this is 403 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 4: this is just it's no. 404 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: It's sad. Like the primary sentiment I feel is like 405 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 3: vicarious shame, Yeah, for this guy and his like desperate 406 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: search for attention. 407 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: Now, a core component of selling fascism too people is 408 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: that they were promised a future that's now been taken 409 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: away from them because of some people that are the enemy. Right, 410 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: This is like the dream of finding a subservient wife, 411 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: a cushy, full time job, buying a home, raising two 412 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: point five kids in a safe and secure homeland. But 413 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: because of quote unquote, this dream is no longer possible. 414 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: Through the years, we've seen different versions of this targeting Jews, Feminists, Palestinians, Muslims, Mexicans, 415 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: Central and South American immigrants. 416 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: Now. 417 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: During Fishbeck's Carlson interview, he elucidated on like an updated 418 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: version of the like twenty first century version of the 419 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: American dream that was stolen from gen Z. 420 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 7: Gen Z was such an important part of the president's 421 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 7: victory last year. Yes, and they feel betrayed by a 422 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 7: lot of these Trump advisors and what they've chosen to 423 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 7: prioritize and not. 424 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: I can see why. 425 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 7: And when I've met them, and I've met them where 426 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 7: they are at their universities, whether it's UF a couple 427 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 7: of weeks ago, I'll be at FSU and just a 428 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 7: couple weeks from now. Their number one frustration is that, look, 429 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 7: they don't want to be lectured anymore. They got a degree, 430 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 7: they got good grades, they got good test scores. They 431 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 7: didn't study gender studies or black intersectionality. They did the 432 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 7: stem thing that Republicans told them to do. Yeah, learn 433 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 7: to code, learn to code. And now they say, you 434 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 7: know what Amazon, Google fed acts. No, No, those jobs 435 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 7: aren't available for you Upesky Americans. You want paid time off, 436 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 7: you want to go to church on Sunday. We're going 437 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 7: to give those jobs to an entire new class of 438 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 7: foreign serfs known as the Indians and the Chinese, and 439 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 7: we're not going to even interview you for those positions. 440 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 7: They don't even pretend that the Chinese or the Indians 441 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 7: are smarter. They're not. They don't speak our language, they 442 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 7: have no skin in their nuts smarter act, they're not 443 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 7: at all, I know. And so the issue then becomes, 444 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 7: do we actually have a labor market that is utterly 445 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 7: rigged against American citizens? The answer is yes. 446 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: I think this is a really interesting exchange on a 447 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: sort of slide that's happening on the right. 448 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: Beyond talking about like illegal immigrants. 449 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: What's really interesting to me is that like the first 450 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: real immigration lik restrictions that were part of the United 451 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: States was the Chinese Exclusion Act, right, Yeah, and we 452 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: have circled all the way back to essentially a very 453 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: similar argument. 454 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 455 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: The slide from talking about illegal immigrants in like the 456 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: far right space to really honing in on on student 457 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: visa's foreign workers, I think is an interesting pivot. And 458 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: this new version of the American dream of like you know, 459 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: stem jobs, learned to code that's now been taken away, 460 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: that's no longer accessible because so many young Americans aren't 461 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: getting hired because they're adamant about going to church on Sunday. 462 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 4: Something that's not true. That's not real. 463 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a real thing. 464 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: First of all, young Americans are not in large numbers 465 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: going to church on Sunday. Nor is their hiring this 466 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: discrimination because they don't want to work on Sundays. Right, 467 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: These things aren't aren't real, but it taps into a 468 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: certain feeling that someone in college might might have right now, 469 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: especially in the wake of like AI vibe coding, of 470 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: they were told that there's this like life track where 471 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: you can work in tech, and now there really isn't 472 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 2: many tech jobs open to people, and they're trying to 473 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: turn this situation in to this fight against legal immigration. 474 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, into fascism. It's funny to see Carlson repeating that 475 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: the learned to code thing, as if that was like 476 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 3: a serious piece of career advice given to people Like 477 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: that has been a meme for close to a decade. Yeah, 478 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: like everybody knew there was bullshit that it's it's literally 479 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: like that. The phrase is a joke. 480 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: Fishback later says after this little rant that quote, our 481 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: north Star should not be a free market, but a 482 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: free people. He's okay, if the market's not freeze, Okay, 483 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: if we're going to be restricting which types of workers 484 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: are allowed, as long as we have a free American people. 485 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 486 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: So, his strategy for winning this race appears to be 487 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: through appealing to homeowners and prospective homeowners through tax cuts 488 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 2: and down payment assistance, but then also really trying to 489 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: engage gen Z voters. Looking at the success of previous politicians, 490 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: including Trump, and how much of his victory was related 491 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: to the gen Z vote, He's really really honing in 492 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: on trying to activate young voters in Florida. He's planning 493 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: to visit every single state college and so university and 494 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: talk with these issues. As a social media stunt, He's 495 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: going on a statewide waffle house tour, visiting all the 496 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: locations in the state great and through this he continues 497 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: to talk about these beliefs on legal immigration. In an 498 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: interview with a local magazine, Fishbeck discussed his belief in 499 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: the quote unquote great replacement state d quote. You can't 500 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: make America great again with Chinese, you can't make America 501 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: great again with Indians. You can't make America great again 502 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: with Haitians. So when I speak about the great replacement, 503 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: I speak about legal immigration programs that for far too 504 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: long have been overlooked. A legal immigration has been a 505 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: primary concern for establishment Republicans. But each one of many 506 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: legal immigration programs, by definition, takes spots and slots jobs 507 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: away from American citizens. My campaign is the one that 508 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: stands up and says America is for Americans, and so 509 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: we have to stop apologizing for that. Yeah, little slight 510 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: move there with the Americas for Americans. 511 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, in reference to German Germany for Yeahman Germany for 512 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: the Germans. 513 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing. Oh, certainly. Yeah, 514 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: Like this is the obvious next place. They have made 515 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: so much political headway with racism, and like the obvious 516 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: direction to keep going there for is to be the 517 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: one who's willing to lean a little bit further into racism, Right, 518 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: See if that can get you a little bit further, 519 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit more popular. Yeah, it 520 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 3: makes sense in that. 521 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: In that way, That's why I find his canadacy really interesting. 522 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: Regardless of how well he's going to end up doing 523 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: in the primary, he is trying to trojan horse something 524 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: into not even trojan horse in a way. He's kind 525 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: of openly trying to pull something into Republican politics and 526 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: something that's been like festering in the sidelines for a while. 527 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: You know, start that Nick's been advocating for a while. 528 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: There was that fight around H one B Visas about 529 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: a year ago. Yeah, and he's he's really honing in 530 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: on this as a potential future for the party. And 531 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna see how successful this is. Like in part right, 532 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: there could be other factors that make his campaign not 533 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: do very well beyond these sorts of politics, but this 534 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: is this is the first time you've really seen these 535 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: deployed at this scale. 536 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: I think. And he's counting on the groper support. 537 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: And this is what Nick's been talking about for a while, 538 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: trying to run candidates like this as much as possible. 539 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, we'll talk more about Fishback's relationship 540 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: with Fuentes and the. 541 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: Grapers after this ad break. 542 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: All right, we're back. 543 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: In my episode last year about the right wing fallout 544 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: of Nick Fuentez and Tucker Carlson's brief friendship, I discussed 545 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: how Fuentes was making threats and promises to deploy his 546 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: groper fan base to influence elections both in twenty twenty 547 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: six and then in the the Republican presidential primary in 548 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, and after that new cycle had peaked, 549 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: Fuentes continued to really hammere down his promise and threat 550 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: to various candidates that if they do not adopt sufficient 551 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: America first messaging, he will deploy his fan base across 552 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: many different primary states to influence the election through support 553 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: and harassment. And I believe that Fishback is attempting to 554 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: hold Nick to this promise. On a podcast appearance last year, 555 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: Fishback said that Nick Fuentes quote unquote broke the Internet 556 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: by speaking truth to the deranged maniac Piers Morgan in 557 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: an interview. 558 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: I do love how Peace Morgan is now like an 559 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: avatar woke for the Nick American Right. 560 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 7: For the biggest interview of the year, Nick fuent Has 561 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 7: and Piers Morgan were, Nick made very very clear, we 562 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 7: are done with the pearl clutching, We are done with 563 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 7: the white guilt. We are done with this pseudo religion 564 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 7: that attacks us for just wanting to exist in our 565 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 7: own country, to buy a home, to get a job, 566 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 7: and to benefit from all the things that we were promised. 567 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: There he is again talking about all the things that 568 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: we were promised. 569 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: And us right, like he's a thirty year old hedge 570 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: fund guy. Yeah, like he got all the things. 571 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: No, he did get the dream that he is saying 572 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: no longer exists, like that has been his life. 573 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he's just trying to cash in on 574 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: it now. 575 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 5: No. 576 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: But it's through this interview he just keeps talking about 577 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: Fuentes and glowingly refers to the Graper fan base. 578 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 7: I'll tell you the truth. I found the audience of 579 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 7: young men who follow and watch Nick Fuentes to be 580 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 7: actually incredibly informed and insimple and very patriotic young man. 581 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be completely honest. I probably shouldn't say this, 582 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 7: but I think Nick's following is actually really impressive. There's 583 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 7: a lot of young men who are patriotic, who are 584 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 7: well informed, who know our history, which is why they 585 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 7: are so frightened by the current path that we are on. 586 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: Having a candidate talk openly about the Grapers in this 587 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: way I think is super interesting. This is the one 588 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: of the first cases, and I don't think it'll be 589 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: the last where Nicks fans and and Nick himself are 590 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: like openly referred to in a race like this. 591 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting again, like super duper surprising to 592 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: me how easily the Overton window is moved to the 593 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: right right now. And there's a whole network of these 594 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: like short form and long form video places to do 595 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: that right that are kind of set up to incentivize that. 596 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: Almost he doesn't have any particular genius that allows him 597 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: to do it right, Like there is a system in 598 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: place both with like Fointe is kind of outside of 599 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: the electoral politics Overton window, and then all these places 600 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: that straddle the line right like Tucker Carlson, et cetera, 601 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: et cetera, where, Yeah, that exist to bring these further 602 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: right discourses into the admiss discourse of electoral politics in 603 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: this country. 604 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and fishback, as a largely unremarkable candidate, is counting 605 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: on a group of probably hundreds to thousands of young 606 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: men to do free campaign work for him by telling 607 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: them that they're good, smart little boys, by complimenting them. 608 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: He is counting on his success being contingent on this 609 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: graper army of gen Z Internet users. To him, these 610 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: are like a valuable political block and like that that's 611 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: the thing that I find interesting about this, as you 612 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: they used to be like pure poison, right yeah, Yeah, 613 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: Now they're seen as like as like a possible asset, 614 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: and Fishback knows that there could be some drawbacks by 615 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: going this extreme. A few days ago, Fishback walked through 616 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: Miami's nightlife on stream with Manosphere influencer sneako who asked 617 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: Nick foyant as if you would endorse Fishback as governor? 618 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 5: What you say all? He said? 619 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: Yes, Nick Foyn says has endorsed Fishback for governor. That 620 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: don't really help go Wait, he's voting for Byron uh. 621 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 7: No, Nick Foyt says, he's voting for Byron Donald's. 622 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: But that's a bad name, myrown Donald's. 623 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 7: Does that even sound like it could be a governor? 624 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: So there you can see that he knows that it 625 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: could have some possible negative effects, but he's he's willing 626 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: to play in this like irony irony zone while still 627 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: very clearly embracing Fuentes and and the Groper's. Yeah, and 628 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: like this stream with Sneakos is like indicative of a 629 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: few things. After Fishback talked about Goyslop at that school event. 630 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: You know, he said afterwards that he wasn't aware of 631 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: like the offensive connotation. 632 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: The fuck else is getting, which is not true. 633 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: Right, This has been like a four Chan term forever 634 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: to talk about how like the Jews are poisoning gentiles 635 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: with food to make them like subservient. 636 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 4: Right, that's what the term means. He knows that. 637 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: And he continued to use the goyslop term on Sneako's stream, 638 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: and after jaywalking on this stream, Fishback joked quote the 639 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 2: headline will read tomorrow Florida govenatorial candidate breaks the law 640 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: with Hitler sympathizer, referring to sneak o great And based 641 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: on the most recent polling we have on this race, 642 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: Fishback's youth centric strategy does seem to be getting its 643 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: intended results. In a University of North Florida Public Opinion 644 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: Research Lab poll from the middle of February, Byron Donalds 645 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: is up thirty one percent to James Fishback at six percent, 646 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: about a twenty five percent gap, which is kind of 647 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: in between the more Fishback friendly Patriot polling numbers and 648 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: Byron Donald's own internal polling. A sizable gap, to be sure, 649 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: but not one that is insurmountable. What's really interesting about 650 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: this pole, though, is the youth numbers for ages eighteen 651 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: to thirty four. James Fishback is at thirty two percent, 652 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: whereas Byron Donald's is at eight percent. He's massively ahead 653 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: among youth. Meanwhile, Byron Donald's tactics to address Fishbeck's connection 654 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: to the Gropers has been a little odd. I'm going 655 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: to read a statement from last week. Quote, Dear James Fishback, 656 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: I heard you crashed out when I told the truth 657 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: about your stupid anti Semitic BDS plan that you stole 658 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: from Kamala Harris, just like you stole your whole gimmick 659 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: from Nick Fuentes and Zoron Mom Donnie, You're no racist, 660 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: your no groyper, your no anti Semite. You're what people 661 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: hate about politics, performative slop unquote. So Byron Donald's approach 662 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: to addressing Fishbeck's ties to the Gropers are not to 663 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: actually attack him for these ties, but to say that 664 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: he's a fake groper, that he's not actually one of them, 665 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: that he's stealing his policy ideas from Kamala Harris and 666 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: stealing his gimmick from Fuentes and Zoron Mamdani quote unquote 667 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: your no anti Semite, your no racist. So basically attacking 668 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 2: Fishback for not being a real enough racist. And Donald 669 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: isn't the only one linking Fishback to Zoron Mamdanni. The 670 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: conservative magazine The Spectator released a positive profile on Fishback 671 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 2: last week with the headline is James Fishback the rights 672 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 2: answer to Zoron Mamdani, The similarities seemingly being that he's 673 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: behind in the polls in a race that could be 674 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: very influential for the future of the Republican Party, while 675 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: gaining a lot of traction among youth and having a 676 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: savvy online element of the campaign, and so Byron Donald's 677 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: response to Fishback's popularity online a popularity among young voters 678 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: is to compare him to Kamala Harris and Zoron Mamdani 679 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: and claim that he's not actually a real racist, that 680 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: he's not actually a real groyper. I do not believe 681 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: this is going to be an effective line of attack 682 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: or damage his numbers among the young, especially male supporters 683 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: that he has, because Fishback already knows that he has 684 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: the groper base in his pocket, and that's why he's 685 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: able to make jokes with Sneako about how no, no, no, 686 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: Nick Fuentes is actually supporting the other guy. He is 687 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: secure enough in his groper support to jokingly distance himself 688 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: from Fuentes as a strategic move, because he knows the 689 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: Grapers are already going to be doing free labor for 690 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,479 Speaker 2: him to boost his chance of winning. He already has 691 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: them cool. 692 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, Like he's relying on social 693 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: media exposure from them, and then he can even say 694 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 3: other stuff to conventional media and it probably won't matter 695 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: that much. 696 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I mean he's still getting profiled by 697 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: major outlets like every every week, and it's it's it's 698 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: gonna be a long race. He wants to eventually debate Donald's, 699 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: like in a televised debate. Unclear thatats going to happen. Yeah, 700 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 2: but as of now, that's kind of the current state 701 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 2: of his candidacy, his strategy to overcome the gap and polls. 702 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: And I will be keeping an eye on this race 703 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 2: specifically because it does relate to what I was talking 704 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: about last year in terms of this like wave of 705 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: groper friendly candidates expected to try to get into the 706 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: Republican Party in the next two to four years. 707 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's his. The election is November of this year. 708 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 4: November is the general. August is the primary. 709 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so I guess the kind of Republican primary 710 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 3: in Georgia is the big deal. I mean in Florida. Sorry, yeah, yeah. 711 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: The primary race in Florida is going to be the 712 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: one that I'm keeping the most track of. 713 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 714 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, don't be surprised if if you 715 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: start seeing fishback pop up and more stuff. 716 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 4: In the next few weeks. 717 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 718 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: Great, well that doesn't for us today at It could 719 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: Happen Here? 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