WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Black Gun Rights Champion Crushes Admin State with Michael Cargill

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, team, Welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Cargill is with us. He is a big Second

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment hero, really, and he'll tell you all why he

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<v Speaker 2>has stared down the progressive leftist Leviathan and been victorious. Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>first off, thank you so much what you've stood for here.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell everybody about your case and how you defeated the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden administration on something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, and thank you for having me. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the bumpstock lawsuit, the Michael Cargill versus a Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice and Dear of Alcohol to backmand firearms. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and eighteen, the ATF decide they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>create a rule to ban a bumpstock because of the

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas shooting, right and so, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this happened under under Trump? By the way, so

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<v Speaker 2>we should note that this is one of the rare

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<v Speaker 2>moments where I'll say, I think Trump got it wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Biden administration kept fighting and then wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>implement this.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep going, yeah, exactly, it was a gateway, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gateway of the ATF getting into the banning

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<v Speaker 1>different parts and pieces. So the shooting happened in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this was like the worst mass shooting in the country. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure was put on everyone left right to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>Something had to be done. And because this is just

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<v Speaker 1>such a very nasty shooting that you know, both sides

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<v Speaker 1>decided to do something and everyone was in on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The NRA was in on it. Uh, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different organizations in on it. And no one

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go against Trump because it was this administration.

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<v Speaker 1>But me, I have this tunnel vision, you know when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the Second Amendment. You know, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in standing you know, right there and making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>no one violates my constitutional rights. So well, I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to bring this lawsuit forward because I said, hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>we allow the federal government, the ATF, to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>your home and take something that you that you know

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<v Speaker 1>you legally owned or purchased and ban it, then you

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<v Speaker 1>know what stops him from doing other things is stopping

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<v Speaker 1>from them from taking other parts and pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And this is a huge issue with the administrative state.

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<v Speaker 2>If they can just decide essentially that by whim, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they can just have a regulatory order and create

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<v Speaker 2>felons out of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody's to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not saying if you don't hand over your bum

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<v Speaker 2>stock or if you don't hand over your pistol brace,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're going to pay one hundred dollars fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying, we're going to arrest you, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>imprison you, We're going to take away more of your

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<v Speaker 2>rights because you'll be a convicted felon afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane, right, And this is much bigger than firearms.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking you know, I'm talking about tech protecting my

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<v Speaker 1>Texas farmers. I'm talking about protecting my Texas ranchers. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the government agency that's going to create a

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<v Speaker 1>rule to convict people and you know, and pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>take people's loblihood the way. And I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. This has got to stop. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>found a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>And you won that lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 2>So congratulations on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It made its way all the way up through the courts.

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<v Speaker 2>as somebody who obviously is familiar with with bump stocks,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have an opinion on you know, there's this look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say it. I've seen guys who are Special

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<v Speaker 2>Forces veterans who say that they just don't believe that

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<v Speaker 2>a bump stock could have been what was used at

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<v Speaker 2>the In fact, they've said they thought it was like

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<v Speaker 2>like a two forty whether two forty Golf or two

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<v Speaker 2>forty Bravo, you know, effectively a belt f machine gun

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<v Speaker 2>and not a bum stock at the Las Vegas shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have an opinion on that based on the video?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, just just basing off the video and what it's

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like. It definitely belt fed or possibly more than

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<v Speaker 1>one shooter, you know, but coming from one person. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the photos of that room, I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>enough ammunition of rounds on the ground, spent you know,

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<v Speaker 1>spent casings whatsoever. So definitely something else is going on

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<v Speaker 1>there they're not telling us about, you know, And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to take this one little part, this piece

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<v Speaker 1>here and to say, hey, you know they're banning this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to ban this in the entire country because

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<v Speaker 1>of one particular little incident. You know, it's just insane

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it also it keeps the door open for the EPA,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you name, a federal agency can decide, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, we think this should be illegal now. So

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<v Speaker 2>now it's illegal. Now it's a crime. Congress is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do that now, you know, it's not supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be a bunch of bureaus at the ATF or anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>You take Osha take you take what happened in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand with shutting you know, the country shutting down from

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<v Speaker 1>COVID and how long that lasted, you know all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have to put our foot down and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, the power belongs to the people, not

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<v Speaker 1>to the government. We should not be in fear of

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<v Speaker 1>our government. The government should be in fear of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh fantastic. That's great to hear. So tell me this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the the Biden White House, what was it

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<v Speaker 2>the Health and Human Services had I think it was, Oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>the Surgeon Surgeon General. Surgeon General has said that there

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<v Speaker 2>is a gun violence emergency and we need to have

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<v Speaker 2>new policies to address the gun violence emergency.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that just mean they want to ban so called

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<v Speaker 3>assault rifles? Like what?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>What do they think is going.

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<v Speaker 2>To change as a legal matter that will address any

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<v Speaker 2>of this? Is it just a gun girl?

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about control exactly that. It's all about control

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<v Speaker 1>and coming after your firearms and trying to ban something.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't see people you know, complaining or demanding. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump votes from within the the black community across this country,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly among black men. The polling is suggesting it's looking

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good for Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that more people in the black and brown

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<v Speaker 1>community are going to be voting conservative to come of

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<v Speaker 1>this election time because they're looking at some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that the liberals, the left is doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing of abortion, uh, trying to convince people

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<v Speaker 1>to kill their you know, their unborn child, reducing the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of black and brown people we have on this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>I see people wanting to take their own personal responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>in their own hands and not allowing the left to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them that you can't protect yourself. You can't you're

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<v Speaker 1>not smart enough get a driver's license. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't read or anything like that. What are you know

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<v Speaker 1>these crazy liberals that we're hearing out of, like states

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<v Speaker 1>of Michigan, California. You know, people want to take their

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<v Speaker 1>own personal their own personal safety owned hands. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure the black community can read, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know they have ID.

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<v Speaker 2>I have one question for you before we actually close

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<v Speaker 2>up here, Michael, you get it is that we're just

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a fun one. It is the

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<v Speaker 2>zombie apocalypse. I'm sure you've seen Walking Dead. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>get one. I will take Bear Creek carsal out of

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<v Speaker 2>this because obviously that would be your first choice because

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<v Speaker 2>they're sponsoring this podcast. But you get one firearm, one

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<v Speaker 2>firearm model that you have to fight against the zombies

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<v Speaker 2>and the zombie apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 3>What what do you go with?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your I'm going with the AR fifteen hands down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I won't pick a model, a particular one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, particular.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayga factory, right, but you go, you go, AR, you go.

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<v Speaker 1>AR AR fifteen thirty Round magazine have a twenty extra

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<v Speaker 1>magazines on me and a truckloading ammunition, and I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be the neighbor in the zombie apocalypse that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>would want to have. So I gotta be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I got I got a lot in the gun safe

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<v Speaker 2>over here. So anyway, Michael, keep in touch man, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you again for a standing firm for both the Second

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment and also standing against the administrative state. Let us

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<v Speaker 2>know here on the show how we can help going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep in touch, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Absolutely reach out to us because we're selling those

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<v Speaker 1>bump stocks.

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<v Speaker 3>As always, what's the store? What's the store?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we have people listening down in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, We're at Central Texas Gun Works in Austin, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have bump stock for sale.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming. I'm next time. I'm in Austin, Michael, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming to see you, coming to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much, Yes, sir, thank you for having me