Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 1: Do we have anything we need to catch up on?
Speaker 2: Well, girls, I've had I had an eventful couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, would you like to care to share?
Speaker 2: I care to share, but I care to share and
Speaker 2: cautious to share two topics I.
Speaker 1: Really go between here on wind Down.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had our we had our parents
Speaker 2: in and it was interesting because my mom hasn't been
Speaker 2: here in two years, so that is that always comes.
Speaker 2: We confirmed if she listens or not listens to the podcast.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: Wild avoidance is her main character trait. So okay, because
Speaker 2: we know.
Speaker 3: We don't really directly ask these questions. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but we try to figure it out. I don't think so,
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I always you know, obviously, we just always all represent
Speaker 2: ourselves as if as if they.
Speaker 1: Anyone is listening. I mean, we're very I think that's
Speaker 1: when things.
Speaker 4: Tried to be good.
Speaker 2: There's sometimes we say things that grows our fingers or
Speaker 2: we say, hey, Hannah, can you take that out? No,
Speaker 2: I think it was just that part was fine. It
Speaker 2: is a wild world we live in where this generation
Speaker 2: of parents had never had technology at their fingertips like
Speaker 2: they do now, and so just the amounts that they're
Speaker 2: on their phone is mind boggling to me. I mean
Speaker 2: we and listen, we are all on our phones. I
Speaker 2: know that, and I know that we are all like
Speaker 2: our business is our phones. I can't imagine us not
Speaker 2: being able to do that. But there's such a wild
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to sit in rooms where people
Speaker 2: haven't been in like you know, grandparents haven't been with
Speaker 2: these kids in like months or even years in some
Speaker 2: of these cases in our house, and that the phone
Speaker 2: is still such.
Speaker 1: A priority as just a really like wild observation. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I actually have a different my my My mom is.
Speaker 2: Rarely on her phone. Okay, so yeah, yeah, is rarely
Speaker 2: on hers. Preston's mom she used to be more so,
Speaker 2: but I think now because she just, I don't know,
Speaker 2: she's just not. I think the fascination maybe has left
Speaker 2: for her. My mom glued, Preston's dad glued. I mean,
Speaker 2: people are just it's just a really interesting.
Speaker 4: What are they doing on their phone?
Speaker 1: Book?
Speaker 3: Is where some people my mom will play. My mom
Speaker 3: will look over and she's like playing a card game.
Speaker 3: But that's if it's like, legit, we're bored. We've got
Speaker 3: nothing to do right now. Yeah, so she's playing a game.
Speaker 1: I'm hyper sensitive to it though, too, Like where it's
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who it is, but it's
Speaker 1: someone that comes into town that rarely sees the kid
Speaker 1: is on their phone, and I'm like, hang out with
Speaker 1: the kids, please, I don't know it bothers me. And
Speaker 1: then I don't want the kids seeing that either, because
Speaker 1: they see us on our phones, which I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be so much better about because i feel like I'm
Speaker 1: good about it, but I'm trying to even be even
Speaker 1: better about it because I I don't want them just
Speaker 1: to feel like they get second place to a phone,
Speaker 1: because that's how I felt with my dad and the
Speaker 1: computer when I was a kid. I'd be like, hey, Dad,
Speaker 1: interesting and it was like hours later he'd be like,
Speaker 1: did someone call me? I'm like, never mind, get out
Speaker 1: to your computer. Never mind. I've had a birthday since then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the interesting part of it.
Speaker 3: What I was going to say is we've really replaced
Speaker 3: the going into an office with a computer locking ourselves in,
Speaker 3: you know, like you didn't bother mom or dad when
Speaker 3: they were on their computer and they were working.
Speaker 4: It was separate and they were doing this.
Speaker 3: So to me, my kind of opposite of that is
Speaker 3: it's like, I'm fortunate enough that I can work at
Speaker 3: any moment off my phone. I don't have to stop
Speaker 3: and not be with them to go lock myself into
Speaker 3: an office. True, but they might not understand that. They
Speaker 3: may not see that, but I do think it's a
Speaker 3: trade off.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like I work from home and I work from
Speaker 3: a phone all the time. But my trade off is
Speaker 3: I don't have to go into an office and be
Speaker 3: gone ten hours a day from my kids, or I
Speaker 3: don't have to lock myself in. Nick kind of still
Speaker 3: locks himself in an office with a computer versus working
Speaker 3: on a phone.
Speaker 4: But to me, that gets frustrating.
Speaker 3: I'm like, just come out here and be with us,
Speaker 3: and if you need to check something on your phone,
Speaker 3: check it on your phone.
Speaker 1: Right. Alan's in his office all day on his computer
Speaker 1: because he has to do all his analysis, right so
Speaker 1: the kids. I mean, so he pretty much locks himself.
Speaker 1: But what he'll do is he'll come in to the
Speaker 1: main area if it's still and the kids are home,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, babe, go to your office because it's
Speaker 1: like he's like, well, no, I want to be around you, guys.
Speaker 1: I go, but you're not though too, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I get you wanting to be He's like,
Speaker 1: but I want to still be. Yeah. So now it's
Speaker 1: now was kind of in the beginning, but now knowing
Speaker 1: that he just likes to still be around us. Because
Speaker 1: at first I'm like, well, it's not helpful because the
Speaker 1: kids want you, and then now I have to feel
Speaker 1: like I have to hould it off of you. But
Speaker 1: now it's they're used to it now, Like he'll work
Speaker 1: in the common area when they're home sometimes, right, he
Speaker 1: still wants.
Speaker 3: To be it's hard to He'll bring his computer into
Speaker 3: there and kind of do that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, President trade off.
Speaker 2: He's constantly on his phone because that is his office,
Speaker 2: you know. And we've had to say to the kids like,
Speaker 2: there's mommy and daddies that leave at you know, six
Speaker 2: am and they don't come home till five, and like,
Speaker 2: we have this ability to do this, but that still
Speaker 2: means I have to get it's just a hard thing
Speaker 2: for them to understand.
Speaker 3: Well, like none of our kids probably understand that. Does
Speaker 3: anyone know because no one goes into an office for work, none,
Speaker 3: none of us.
Speaker 4: So our children don't understand that. I mean my older.
Speaker 1: Ones, Yeah, that's true, to go into an office. They've
Speaker 1: been to this office before.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But and my older kids do because I used to
Speaker 3: go into an office when they so they understand that,
Speaker 3: because I used to be gone till six, seven o'clock
Speaker 3: every night.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So but you know, for the other ones, like they
Speaker 3: don't even understand that, you know, Yeah, it's just weird.
Speaker 1: It is such a strange.
Speaker 3: But for people coming into town who have not seen
Speaker 3: and our people and are retired and not trying to work, yeah,
Speaker 3: they can put that on the phone.
Speaker 1: Listen, I be there, promise. I'm just being observant.
Speaker 2: I feel like I stayed very even this entire the
Speaker 2: entire visit.
Speaker 1: I was very even.
Speaker 2: Jana tipped me off to taking saffron, So I've been like,
Speaker 2: I ran it by you know, doctor Non doctor Nate,
Speaker 2: and he was like, I think that would be a
Speaker 2: great addition. So I've been I don't know if that
Speaker 2: is what I'm having or if it's I took way
Speaker 2: more time out this Christmas season. We took a lot
Speaker 2: of like the traditions off of our plates, meaning just
Speaker 2: like the excursions mostly And so I feel like I
Speaker 2: stayed really grounded, just observant. But it was interesting to
Speaker 2: watch because I can't imagine a world where I haven't
Speaker 2: seen like Love's kids in two years and I'm doing
Speaker 2: anything on my phone. In fact, I'm like so out
Speaker 2: of office, you know. Yeah, especially when it's not a necessity.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes habits just come to play, you know.
Speaker 3: And if they're just sitting at home on their phones,
Speaker 3: it's probably a lot of a habit too, Oh, definitely,
Speaker 3: And we're all guilty about it.
Speaker 1: Like speaking of hell and it being the new year,
Speaker 1: what's the habit you're wanting to put on the vision board? Like,
Speaker 1: what's something on the vision board this year that you like,
Speaker 1: leave a habit? Well, we're leaving and we're gaining a
Speaker 1: habit kind like And I think, you know, I will
Speaker 1: say this, I did a vision board. I think you
Speaker 1: guys were there, Yeah, Hams too. Did you not come
Speaker 1: to PAMs last year vision board? Where did a vision
Speaker 1: board last year? And you know, wanting to do it again?
Speaker 1: And it's I had it in my closet and I
Speaker 1: looked at it, so many times, and it really actually
Speaker 1: did help me. It does help.
Speaker 2: I have mine framed in my little writing room, like
Speaker 2: I put it in a real frame this year. I
Speaker 2: was like, this is not just a vision, this is
Speaker 2: like an actual like it's solidifying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: But I think what I when I've looked back on
Speaker 1: my years past of because I've been doing my goals,
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty seventeen. I've got this little
Speaker 1: black book, I think it's twenty seventeen or twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: or twenty eighteen off to look but where it's you know,
Speaker 1: my goals for the new year relationally personally and then professionally.
Speaker 1: But some of my goals professionally are so to like,
Speaker 1: like so top tier that I'm like, okay, okay, Like
Speaker 1: we gotta be a little bit more realistic now, is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think we do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you're someone who's like gets upset if
Speaker 3: you don't hit.
Speaker 1: Them exactly because I haven't been able to hit a
Speaker 1: certain one though, we get depressed.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I've had to now kind of just
Speaker 1: go because last year was an insane year doing never
Speaker 1: in a million years, I think I'd filmed four movies
Speaker 1: ever in a year, right, so if I but I
Speaker 1: can't put that same So now I can't put on
Speaker 1: my list in which I didn't. I didn't put film
Speaker 1: five movies in a year because I didn't even put
Speaker 1: I did film one, you know, because that is a success.
Speaker 4: And yes, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yes, So hearing that so important, especially for someone like you.
Speaker 3: I just I do because it's like, hey, the goal
Speaker 3: is to work. The goal is to get a movie
Speaker 3: to do something that you if you put something so
Speaker 3: specific that you're really setting yourself up to not hit
Speaker 3: maybe you know, because it's so specific.
Speaker 1: Put on book a series, regular rule, right, two thousand
Speaker 1: and whatever a year that was, And it's like every
Speaker 1: year I'm like, well failed again, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: where my brain goes to. And it's like, why don't
Speaker 1: you just go I film one project this year because
Speaker 1: that in itself is a success and could that be?
Speaker 1: That could be that? Right, it could be. Sure, I'm
Speaker 1: putting like I think we put too much of a
Speaker 1: title on what we are wanting to achieve. That then
Speaker 1: we look down on ourselves. That is my personality, like Kat,
Speaker 1: you know, like I will then and I have I've
Speaker 1: hated on myself when I rely. When I was redoing
Speaker 1: it for this new year, I'm like, okay, I set
Speaker 1: myself up for almost failing. Okay, so this is my question.
Speaker 2: Actually this is perfect segue because I've been struggling with this.
Speaker 2: I love my vision board. I hit zero of it,
Speaker 2: I think pretty much last year, but also like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, last year just felt a little noisy and
Speaker 2: a little cluttery, so a little snaky shedding it did,
Speaker 2: a lot of people are resonating with the snake shedding.
Speaker 2: I when is like, I have this friend who is
Speaker 2: the manifestation guru. This chick is unstoppable. It actually doesn't
Speaker 2: even make sense. And she also came from this very full, lovely,
Speaker 2: nurturing upbringing and probably had some funds available to her.
Speaker 2: And so I watch her just be able to knock
Speaker 2: things out of the park. And when I say she
Speaker 2: has no lid on her brain, she has no lid.
Speaker 2: I mean billboards in Times Square, launching this, launching that,
Speaker 2: writing this, writing that like it's crazy, and I so badly.
Speaker 2: I mean, I look back at like my life nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty two, huge things have happened for me that could never.
Speaker 2: I would have never thought possible based on circumstance, right,
Speaker 2: But still I limit when I look at the vision
Speaker 2: board I have right now, it is the vision board.
Speaker 2: It's for some reason in my brain, those things are
Speaker 2: like five years away always. So if every year they're
Speaker 2: five years away, I'm just never quite getting there.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to take one step to get there,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing that one steppy you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: and then then if you're doing one step, and then
Speaker 1: what's the second step? So I keep stepping. I just
Speaker 1: wonder if.
Speaker 2: What to your point, I'm on the stepping guys, I
Speaker 2: feel so proud of my stuff. I just to your point,
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, like, where does vision board and reality hit
Speaker 2: for me? Because I'm noticing, for the first time ever
Speaker 2: in the last two years, when I'm creating it, there's
Speaker 2: a layer of real reality that I'm putting over it
Speaker 2: that I didn't before, you know, like it used to
Speaker 2: just be like dream Big Superstar, you know.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I think it's you have to go
Speaker 1: a little bit more specific, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure, but I mean, like I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: not telling you what was on my vision board, but
Speaker 2: say there was like be a Victoria's Super Secret Supermodel
Speaker 2: was on my vision board? Say that was on my
Speaker 2: vision board like three years ago, And is that actually one?
Speaker 1: Or no?
Speaker 2: I never had the Torso. God, I love watching it.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I was like, oh, you guys,
Speaker 2: what a time that would be. I don't have the
Speaker 2: Torso for that, but they're stunning. I just feel like
Speaker 2: now I'm going, Ah, maybe it's because I know all
Speaker 2: the things it would take to become so say like
Speaker 2: Saturday Live, right, that could be something that's on a
Speaker 2: vision board for me.
Speaker 1: Great, Okay, so you know what you do? You go
Speaker 1: to William Scott, It's the fourth Wall is amazing acting coach.
Speaker 1: They do comedy. There's a lot of people doing sketch
Speaker 1: comedy there. You take us Tuesday night class and is
Speaker 1: that here? Yes, in Nashville, big stuff forward. Let's I'm
Speaker 1: saying you have to put things out and those people
Speaker 1: are doing some really cool sketch. You know, they do
Speaker 1: drama and stuff too, but they also have a sketch
Speaker 1: comedy night, you know, and you start meeting people, you
Speaker 1: start meeting that world. Then you're going to go do
Speaker 1: you know, go do zanies or whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: then it's you know, the next step. Interesting, it's not
Speaker 1: on my vision war but.
Speaker 4: Because I've got that, you have steps what you got
Speaker 4: for me?
Speaker 2: And I was just wondering, is it well as we
Speaker 2: get older, is the reality in us knowing what we know?
Speaker 4: Start to Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you but you're limiting yourself too much. So there's
Speaker 1: so there's it's like me saying zero movie okay in
Speaker 1: a way or I feel like or.
Speaker 3: It's not like that because for you, you're already like
Speaker 3: in that I feel like, okay, yeah, and I have a.
Speaker 4: Lot to say about this.
Speaker 3: But for you, it's like saying something that you've never done,
Speaker 3: a cookbook, something just so random, not so random.
Speaker 4: But you're not like in that world, right per se?
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, so that's a lot more overwhelming and figuring
Speaker 3: out how to write.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say put you know, sure for
Speaker 1: the for next year. I wouldn't for for your board
Speaker 1: for for this year. I wouldn't put you know a
Speaker 1: star on you know, be the lead in the sketch comedy.
Speaker 1: I would say, sign up for a sketch comedy class, okay,
Speaker 1: because that is more of that's that's I think the
Speaker 1: the goal because that's that might take a couple of
Speaker 1: months for you to actually do that and then to
Speaker 1: start the class. So that could be like, don't go
Speaker 1: just to like the top top, right, Yeah, like my
Speaker 1: vision board has always been here, and then the bigger
Speaker 1: dream can be that, right. So it's like the bigger
Speaker 1: dream in years to come is that, But what can
Speaker 1: you do this year to actively get me to there?
Speaker 1: To there? Cat?
Speaker 4: That's just so funny.
Speaker 3: It's just so funny because I don't have those huge
Speaker 3: I know, and that's I don't and I am fine.
Speaker 1: With that, and I love that I am.
Speaker 4: I just don't.
Speaker 3: I think for me, I've hit, I've done things that
Speaker 3: I really wanted to do, and now for me, I
Speaker 3: have the perfect situation where I get to do it
Speaker 3: and be home and.
Speaker 1: You're rooted in your face.
Speaker 3: I'm just so rooted in that, and I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe when they all leave, maybe I'll like expand it
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have those huge goals like that anymore. And
Speaker 3: I did, trust me. I mean, I was interning when
Speaker 3: I was in high school. And maybe that has a
Speaker 3: lot to do with it, is that I had those
Speaker 3: very specific goals from the get go early on.
Speaker 1: You've managed huge acts. Yeah, and it's great, including myself
Speaker 1: in that yeah, massive, Naomi Jihad and all these people.
Speaker 1: It's like you've you've lived a very cool life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was all amazing and it was great.
Speaker 3: And at times I will say, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: if I don't know someone huge were to come to me,
Speaker 3: would I go do it?
Speaker 4: I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I truly don't know that I would because it comes
Speaker 3: for such there's such a sacrifice for that, and so
Speaker 3: I don't even really think that way as much, which
Speaker 3: is maybe good or bad. I'm just not that way,
Speaker 3: you know. And my my goals work wise are always
Speaker 3: for the person that I'm working with, because at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I succeed if that person succeeds.
Speaker 3: So it's never like because I don't want to do
Speaker 3: something different. I don't necessarily want to make my company huge.
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I just don't. That's just not stuff.
Speaker 3: And so it's it is so fun though to listen
Speaker 3: to y'all and like y'all's huge goals.
Speaker 4: I'm over here, like, yeah, I got no goals.
Speaker 2: This is cool.
Speaker 1: No you know, because your goals are so rooted in family,
Speaker 1: which I mean ours are we but it's in different
Speaker 1: one percent. And I think that's okay because we're different personalities. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you'd ever put you want to
Speaker 1: be an actress on your list, right, you know, zero desire.
Speaker 1: But if I mean, there's a Tuesday night workshop you can.
Speaker 4: Take, Sayiny's is like my worst Nightmary, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Could see you doing something else, of maybe doing something
Speaker 1: faith rooted, or you know what I mean. Like, I
Speaker 1: think there's different avenues for each individual and each personality.
Speaker 3: And I do think for my personality too. These things
Speaker 3: may come later on. I'm just so focused on I'm
Speaker 3: going to have someone that's graduating in a year, you know,
Speaker 3: and then I've got another one going into high school.
Speaker 4: You know those things.
Speaker 3: I'm just so focused on that that I'm not even
Speaker 3: really focused on those other things. But I love to
Speaker 3: hear y'all talk about it.
Speaker 2: Well and always a new year and a new birthday
Speaker 2: are so close for me. Yeah, they're like just two
Speaker 2: days apart, so it's just a whole overhaul in my brain.
Speaker 2: Well and again it goes to that whole birthday syndrome
Speaker 2: that I guess is a real thing apparently. Yeah, of okay,
Speaker 2: I'm another year older, like forty four to be feels yeah, yeah, fine,
Speaker 2: but I don't feel my age, So maybe at some
Speaker 2: point there is some sort of denial happening too, and
Speaker 2: there is the sense of like, well, shoot, like I haven't.
Speaker 2: That's a weird thing at forty four, I haven't all
Speaker 2: the things you're so certain you would do in life
Speaker 2: and you haven't done, like I do think deeply like
Speaker 2: God plants things in us that we know are ours
Speaker 2: because you're supposed to fulfill them. Not a pressure but
Speaker 2: just more of like a calling, right, So like if
Speaker 2: I haven't, when is that happening? You know? But then
Speaker 2: I also remember I have a two and a half
Speaker 2: year old and blah blah blah blah, and a husband
Speaker 2: that's gone all the time, and you know, so that
Speaker 2: does make it. Yeah, I I just it's been interesting
Speaker 2: the vision board process because it used to just be
Speaker 2: and listen to all the things I've done. We're on
Speaker 2: a vision board at one point, right, like host a
Speaker 2: radio show and do a sheet TV show, Like all
Speaker 2: those things were on there and I did them.
Speaker 1: So I also have to go wow for the.
Speaker 2: Girl that didn't come you know, they didn't come from
Speaker 2: parents that were in that world and didn't come from
Speaker 2: a trust fund. You know, like we're doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I have to run do. I do
Speaker 3: feel like this is going to be a really great
Speaker 3: year though.
Speaker 1: I actually it's the year of the horse power.
Speaker 4: Whenever that means.
Speaker 3: I had a TikTok show up about the snake shedding
Speaker 3: and all the things.
Speaker 4: I was like, my phone is listening, listening.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know this is going to be a great year.
Speaker 4: For it be a great one, I feel.
Speaker 1: I feel it. Do we have anything we want to
Speaker 1: whine about? Or are we just going to stay super
Speaker 1: grateful in this new year.
Speaker 3: I'm doing to be grateful. I feel pretty grateful. I
Speaker 3: feel like it's yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Come back next week because you know, I have an
Speaker 2: indirect wine, right.
Speaker 1: I miss being on the road with you girls.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, we're working on it.
Speaker 1: We're working on it. I know.
Speaker 2: I want to dust to tease it stay tuned because
Speaker 2: I think they really.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's a goal. That's a goal for
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 2: What my heart feels when I'm out with y'all is
Speaker 2: like nothing else.
Speaker 1: All we can say is stay tuned, stay tuned. The
Speaker 1: wheels are working, they are, and the kit Kat's always working. Headlines, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't want to start it off sad, but what
Speaker 1: is going on? There's a headline here saying why are
Speaker 1: so many influencers dying? Experts explains why social media star
Speaker 1: desks seem like a trend? That kind of is heavy.
Speaker 1: Why would someone say seems like a trend.
Speaker 2: It does feel that way though, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's just what is supposed to be fed to me,
Speaker 2: but it does seem strange.
Speaker 1: I will say this so I'm one of the like
Speaker 1: a YouTuber star mikaylash took her life at twenty nine.
Speaker 1: The list, unfortunately, was on. So what's happening? One possible
Speaker 1: answer is the evolution of the term influencer. It used
Speaker 1: to be synonymous with people like Emma Chamberlaine and Addison
Speaker 1: Ray who had millions of followers. But when the category
Speaker 1: is that broad, tragic events get grouped together in a
Speaker 1: way that makes it seem like a trend. Influencers live
Speaker 1: so much or relies online with their struggles and destined
Speaker 1: out in a way that doesn't happen with private individuals,
Speaker 1: So I get that piece of it. But on the
Speaker 1: flip side of it is I could see how the
Speaker 1: influencers because I mean, like when I used to read
Speaker 1: comments how mentally that made me go really depressed. So
Speaker 1: I can only imagine if you're already someone that is depressed,
Speaker 1: then that tripling and piling onto you would make it
Speaker 1: that much harder.
Speaker 3: Yes, I also think, and I've been saying this for
Speaker 3: a while dealing with teenage girls and TikTok, I've been
Speaker 3: preaching it. I've been trying to talk about this. I
Speaker 3: think there is such a trend now that everyone's talking
Speaker 3: about mental health, which is good, but I think sometimes
Speaker 3: we're taking it a little too far. And there are
Speaker 3: a lot of young people talking about their mental health
Speaker 3: struggles and them hurting themselves and them wanting to commit
Speaker 3: suicide on social media, which I'm.
Speaker 4: Glad that they have that outlet.
Speaker 3: But now what's happening is you have all these young
Speaker 3: girls watching this going, oh, well, so and so's struggling
Speaker 3: with mental health, and so and so and so and
Speaker 3: so and so and so is this a thing? Not
Speaker 3: is this cool? But kind of is this cool? To
Speaker 3: have mental health problems? Is this Do I need to
Speaker 3: be doing this too? It's filling their head and their algorithm.
Speaker 3: They're just watching it and watching you watch one. Guess
Speaker 3: what Now you got ten popping up talking about it.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of scary the way that it's going,
Speaker 3: because yes, I think it's important to talk about mental
Speaker 3: health obviously, but at what cost. I think where it's
Speaker 3: kind of pivoting over to a little bit of a
Speaker 3: scary gray area at times.
Speaker 1: And they also say too, humans aren't built to absorb
Speaker 1: daily criticism from strangers at scale.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely and not getting it so much.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to be more on our wine Down comments,
Speaker 2: the podcast comments because I just.
Speaker 1: Deeply love the people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are really funny, great people, and I don't think
Speaker 2: I can yeah, because it's just it's so funny.
Speaker 1: I know whose I am.
Speaker 2: I am sturdy, I am loved, I am too old
Speaker 2: to care. And yet one comment and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: want to write back. I don't, but I it does
Speaker 2: affect me. It's so hard for me, and I don't
Speaker 2: know how you do it.
Speaker 1: I got into it the other day and I'm so
Speaker 1: mad at myself that I even did, but they went
Speaker 1: after Jolly. They said something about Jolie about her appearance,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, as a mother, how dare
Speaker 1: you write something so rude and awful? And I almost
Speaker 1: I mean, I still have the screenshot I was on
Speaker 1: a screenshot put up to my thing, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, No, I'm not going to feed yeah
Speaker 1: whatever she's mentally going through, Like for her to be
Speaker 1: that rude, and I'm like, this is so sad that you.
Speaker 1: I was like, you need Jesus and she's like, don't worry.
Speaker 1: Me and my kids have Jesus. I'm like, then we're
Speaker 1: following the wrong Jesus, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like mom is criticizing other children.
Speaker 1: It was I was sorry, so angry, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: when they talk about me now, I'm truly like again,
Speaker 1: I'll straight up say it. This is embarrassing to admit.
Speaker 1: But here she goes, No, I had to put a
Speaker 1: freaking passcode on my phone like a child, so that
Speaker 1: I didn't look at which, by the way, it doesn't
Speaker 1: actually work, because I was I was looking for a
Speaker 1: recipe and it sent me to said place and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you can do your time out thing.
Speaker 1: So I was like, eh, I press it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you.
Speaker 4: Know what does not give you a minute though.
Speaker 1: But that would give me enough time to doom scroll my.
Speaker 4: My kids have figured out that one minute too.
Speaker 1: So but it can also do a day too. But
Speaker 1: again you put on it was like no, but I
Speaker 1: was like, because I just need to not look at that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so silly, like I'm a child.
Speaker 1: But then I when I had it, I go, you
Speaker 1: know what, I go for what like they know nothing?
Speaker 1: Like they actually don't know anything, and this is just
Speaker 1: and then mentally what it does because I'm just like
Speaker 1: feeding into the non truth of these people's opinions and
Speaker 1: and and there's so many good ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many sweet I actually screenshot all the
Speaker 2: sweet ones that DM me. I screenshot and have a
Speaker 2: little folder because it's like it takes that like one
Speaker 2: negative voice gets all the volume and I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no. But I can see if you're not sturdy
Speaker 2: in absolutely how that can just I can't imagine, especially
Speaker 2: if you're that age.
Speaker 3: If you're an insecure about something for instance, you know
Speaker 3: it's like you're about your nose. And then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, someone's talking about your nose, you know. I
Speaker 3: mean that got back. You got to me years ago
Speaker 3: when I was insecured about my eyebrows, and then everybody
Speaker 3: run Reddit was talking about my eyebrows, you know, like whatever.
Speaker 4: I love your eyes, but oh thanks, I got to fixincent.
Speaker 4: But they're still little.
Speaker 3: But anyway, you know, and it's like little things like that,
Speaker 3: Like I was fine, obviously I thought about it for
Speaker 3: a little while. But when you were a young person
Speaker 3: and like you're already struggling, and then someone says stuff
Speaker 3: like that, like it's so hard for anyone to deal
Speaker 3: with that. But the other part is just being defensive,
Speaker 3: you know, and just wanting to defend yourself and wanting
Speaker 3: to you know, that's a naturalize. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm like, I I.
Speaker 4: Mean that gets me the most.
Speaker 3: I mean, and again, we didn't mean to talk about this,
Speaker 3: but like I had gone on and defended her on
Speaker 3: Reddit at one point.
Speaker 4: I went on there and I was like, this is
Speaker 4: just not true.
Speaker 3: And I fought with these people and I it's like
Speaker 3: it's time.
Speaker 4: It was a waste of time.
Speaker 3: But I was so defensive of her, and I was like,
Speaker 3: what are y'all even talking about like why are we
Speaker 3: lying here? Why are we or why are you convinced
Speaker 3: that this is the truth and such a waste of
Speaker 3: time anything?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where the insanity piece of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I've I Yeah, I'm just I'm done, and like
Speaker 1: for my mental health of all of it, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: again four walls, what's the truth? What is all those things?
Speaker 1: But again, being that age, I'm like, I can't cannot
Speaker 1: As a forty year old, it would rock me, of course.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So I know when kids, the kids, any of them,
Speaker 3: are like, oh, I want to do this, I want
Speaker 3: to be an influencer. I'm like, absolutely not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not an option. You can be anything in life.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna be in a bulls or that happening.
Speaker 1: Oh would parents rather work remote for one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty k or in office for two forty? The internet
Speaker 1: is divided, so so are the couches. I would just say,
Speaker 1: we just talked about this, basically, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't pass up one hundred and twenty k in a
Speaker 1: year just to stay home.
Speaker 4: I would think about it. You would, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you working from home being with my kids
Speaker 3: more husband. Worth one hundred and twenty is a lot.
Speaker 3: It's a lot, but I would absolutely take less to
Speaker 3: be home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Undy, I.
Speaker 3: Have to think about Yeah, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: I could go back into an office doing it for
Speaker 3: so long.
Speaker 1: I've never been in an office, so I really can't speak.
Speaker 3: It's fun, it's fun to because you've got your friends,
Speaker 3: You've got people you can go eat lunch with, you.
Speaker 2: Drink hot coffee, you go potty when you want to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but well, it's been a debate in our house recently.
Speaker 3: Looking from home doesn't necessarily mean having your kids there
Speaker 3: at the same time, though, I know, but for me
Speaker 3: it would.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to well and my well, the lifestyle
Speaker 2: we've chosen, they would be right.
Speaker 4: So I am and I cannot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen, just Nashville traffic in general would
Speaker 2: be a huge deterrent for me. But yeah, if I
Speaker 2: now worth that traffic, No, nothing's worth that traffic.
Speaker 1: I really want to build healthier habits in the new year,
Speaker 1: especially around food, but I feel stuck in a cycle.
Speaker 1: I'll eat well for about a week and then I
Speaker 1: cave and I fall back into old habits. I've tried
Speaker 1: so many times that it's starting to feel discouraging. How
Speaker 1: do you actually build habits that stick? And what do
Speaker 1: you do when motivation fades or you slip up?
Speaker 4: That's hard?
Speaker 1: This is this used to be me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I am not gonna I'm not giving you the
Speaker 2: crutch here, but I do think, like in depth, blood
Speaker 2: work really matters because there might be a reason that
Speaker 2: you are falling into a pattern and it's happening the
Speaker 2: same way it's happening, so it could just be hormone related,
Speaker 2: like you're wanting or craving things that you wouldn't normally
Speaker 2: want or need. I sometimes now do this with working out,
Speaker 2: not that I don't want to, but I watch myself
Speaker 2: slip because if it doesn't happen in the morning, doesn't happen
Speaker 2: at all. But I do feel this deeply because I
Speaker 2: used to be this exact same way, and when I
Speaker 2: would fall off, I'd fall off hard, like I'd say, oh,
Speaker 2: I've already messed up the day, and then I would
Speaker 2: just go crazy. So it's like a muscle I had
Speaker 2: to flex, and every time I would just have to
Speaker 2: try to slowly get myself back on track.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think this is something that actually helped my
Speaker 1: mom where she was facetiming her and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: now I see why you never wanted me to give
Speaker 1: the kids cheese. It's they're terrible for them. And I'm like, yeah, Mom,
Speaker 1: Like you know, she got this app on her phone
Speaker 1: and once it started telling her the bad ingredients in there,
Speaker 1: she didn't realize it. And I think once you realize
Speaker 1: what is in something, it then helps your brain go okay,
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't that now. Again, I'm big on moderation.
Speaker 1: I think, like, I'm not gonna eat cheese. It's but
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have a chocolate chip cookie, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have chocolate or a brownie whatever, But I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: have it every night, because you do once you start
Speaker 1: to feel better. So I would say, notice how you
Speaker 1: feel when you start to eat healthy things versus when
Speaker 1: you start to eat unhealthy things. You'll start to want
Speaker 1: that unhealthy thing less because of how it makes you
Speaker 1: feel the next day, and it becomes so much more drastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, coming from the one who grew
Speaker 3: up with the bad habits, if you grew up eating badly,
Speaker 3: it is absolutely a habit that is hard for people
Speaker 3: to understand why you can't break it.
Speaker 1: I grew up on McDonald's every night.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, most people, it is a very hard
Speaker 3: habit to break, though, it is.
Speaker 4: It truly is.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to just help this person understand or yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: sure a little bit, and that it's not just that easy,
Speaker 3: because when I eat healthier, I do feel better, but
Speaker 3: I don't feel a drastic better, you know. I And again,
Speaker 3: I've grown up eating really badly and I've had really
Speaker 3: bad eating habits. But when I eat healthier, I don't
Speaker 3: necessarily this magic. Oh my god, I feel so much better.
Speaker 1: So I feel it in my gut, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 3: Do, and that's where I'd always kind of hoped, you know.
Speaker 3: But I've always had a really strong stomach. Things don't
Speaker 3: really upset me, don't nothing really, you know. And so
Speaker 3: I think everyone's a little bit different in that instance.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a ton of friends growing up
Speaker 3: who ate really bad, but something would make their stomach hurt.
Speaker 3: So it's like it was easy to cut out that
Speaker 3: cheese because it hurt, you know. So I do think
Speaker 3: it's different for everybody. I do think that I've gotten
Speaker 3: healthier eating habits, for sure, but I still fall into
Speaker 3: that easily.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm used to eating chips at night and
Speaker 3: you know whatever. So I feel for you because I
Speaker 3: do think it's not that easy. It has never been
Speaker 3: that easy for me. But I do think little by little,
Speaker 3: if you change it as a habit and you see
Speaker 3: it as an actual habit, now the habit is grabbing
Speaker 3: this instead of this, not having it in your house,
Speaker 3: not buying it to have it as an option, you know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Little things like that will help ease make.
Speaker 4: It a little easier.
Speaker 1: I do think not having it available is critical.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's part of our problem.
Speaker 2: Like when we just don't have the junk food junk,
Speaker 2: you know. And I was on this popcorn kick for
Speaker 2: a really long time at night.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I know this is not the junkiest junk food I
Speaker 2: could pick, but it is not typical of me. A
Speaker 2: smart popcorn, the white cheddar, but it loved light one
Speaker 2: and I that in an ollipop root beer was like
Speaker 2: the crutch every single night. Man. I think also because
Speaker 2: I was, you know, like the mommying and you don't
Speaker 2: get to just sit and eat any one thing that's yours,
Speaker 2: you know, So I would just look forward to it. It
Speaker 2: was like that Megan Markle and I would just cozy
Speaker 2: in and then I was like, gosh, my gut feels inflame.
Speaker 2: Do I feel bloated or you know, it's like silly,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't feel great. So then corn will do that,
Speaker 2: I know, anything, but it's yeah, just a babystuff do
Speaker 2: it for a week.
Speaker 1: Try not to have things in the house. That's a
Speaker 1: huge step because listen, they'll see salt and vinegar chips
Speaker 1: that come in the house.
Speaker 4: Bye, they will be gone so good.
Speaker 1: So I try not to bring them in as much,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I do, And I think it's just about
Speaker 1: you know, you got a week and then you have
Speaker 1: a bad day.
Speaker 4: It's fine, and don't get down on yourself.
Speaker 1: If you have a bad day, it's because we're going
Speaker 1: to be positive this year. Yes, here we go, see
Speaker 1: y'all next week.
Speaker 4: Bye bye bye,