Speaker 1: I am all in that. I am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. How's everybody doing?
Speaker 1: So we're ready to Are we ready to go? Because
Speaker 1: I like this episode. You know what, guys, I liked
Speaker 1: it too, and I liked it a lot, and I
Speaker 1: think John Stevens wrote one heck of a script and
Speaker 1: NeiMa directed the hell out of it, and it was
Speaker 1: just I want to see it again. Wait, was this
Speaker 1: Adam Nimoy back again? No, Nonnima Barnett directed this, and
Speaker 1: I just thought it was as good as it gets
Speaker 1: for this show. Yeah, I felt very Gilmoury to me.
Speaker 1: It was just firing on all cylinders that Joe. Everything worked,
Speaker 1: it was great. Everything was great. And I will say
Speaker 1: Lauren Graham looked fantastic in this episode. No, no, you
Speaker 1: talk about the fashion, but I kept noticing the fashion
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. I mean the dress
Speaker 1: and the leather jacket were a knockout. But yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you call that? What do you call argyle? That argyle?
Speaker 1: Sweater sleeves, like the like the sweater vest. I'm literally
Speaker 1: so happy you're mentioning this. But she looked fantastic. I
Speaker 1: thought the wardrobe and not that she never she always does. Right,
Speaker 1: you are a thousand percent correct. I was fully taken
Speaker 1: up a notch even I noticed this Tracy Lords, which
Speaker 1: will get to her turquoise necklace amazing, and then Suki
Speaker 1: had these turquoise earrings. So I don't know what was
Speaker 1: going on with the wardrobe. Looralized fashion was so epic
Speaker 1: that write. The dress was amazing, her hair was amazing,
Speaker 1: her face was amazing. The gold necklace with the little
Speaker 1: circle that I love back again. I mean I'm into
Speaker 1: Rory's hair, the whole thing. Yeah, I mean everything everything
Speaker 1: about it worked anyway, So let's um, I think I'm
Speaker 1: hearing a big sigh of relief. Well, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the people will be happy. I was really needing a
Speaker 1: great episode. I really wanted a great episode. It's it's
Speaker 1: traumatizing not to like an episode. It's it is it's
Speaker 1: I don't like not liking it, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to love it because I love the show. I really
Speaker 1: do overall. Um, I mean, my just on on that.
Speaker 1: It's like even when you when you don't like it,
Speaker 1: it's still better than most episodes of television. Oh, no question,
Speaker 1: no questions, Like even the worst ones are better than
Speaker 1: like half the other shows we watched three quarters all right,
Speaker 1: So who's gonna synopsize? I think Danielle is on the road, right,
Speaker 1: she's traveling on the East coast. Yes. Oh, speaking of
Speaker 1: being on the road, I will be appearing at the
Speaker 1: Rhode Island Comic Con okay uh November four through six
Speaker 1: in Providence at the Rhode Island Convention Center. And I
Speaker 1: think they're called the Duncan Donuts. The biggest little state
Speaker 1: in the Union, the biggest, the biggest, the biggest event
Speaker 1: in the smallest state. Uh. And so that's Rhode and
Speaker 1: Comic Con. Come on by. I'll be there all weekend
Speaker 1: November four or six. Can't wait. It's my only appearance
Speaker 1: in the United States in the fall winter season at
Speaker 1: one of these conventions. I don't think you better. One
Speaker 1: of our one of our podcast hosts from The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: Ashley I Connetti Um, owns a coffee shop in Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: It's called Audrey's. You should stop by get out of town.
Speaker 1: How long does it take to get from the end
Speaker 1: of Rhode Island to another Like it couldn't be more
Speaker 1: than an hour? Right? Well, if she's improvid. She in Providence.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Tara, what town is it in? I
Speaker 1: don't know, We don't know. But it's the smallest it's
Speaker 1: it's literally the smallest state. How how far could anything be? Sure?
Speaker 1: Should I road trip it to her? If I can
Speaker 1: do it, I'll do it. I'll do it. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll find out by the end of the show. We'll
Speaker 1: find out. All right, cool anyway, Tara synopsize away? Please
Speaker 1: all right? This is season four, episode five, The Fundamental
Speaker 1: Things Apply. This aired on October two thousand three. Rory
Speaker 1: goes on a date but realizes she doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to date. Luke is annoyed at Laura la because she's
Speaker 1: doing all her work at the diner and is upset
Speaker 1: about baseball tickets, so Loria I invites him over for
Speaker 1: movie night. Meanwhile, she has a dilemma with an interior
Speaker 1: designer they've hired for the Dragonfly in God it's so good.
Speaker 1: So it starts out with a bearing with the bulbs
Speaker 1: right bad, gives laurea lay some ball albs and gets
Speaker 1: her into gardening as a way to fulfill her empty
Speaker 1: nest syndrome. And it was really hysterical. Rory comes back
Speaker 1: and they squeal and they scream because the bulb got
Speaker 1: on her and made her. And we also immediately know
Speaker 1: it's Halloween because the town is looking good, which is
Speaker 1: like perfect timing because Halloween is here. Unbelievable. I was like,
Speaker 1: this felt really like great timing. We're right on track.
Speaker 1: How did we do claimed it? So it was a
Speaker 1: really cute opening scene. Yeah, this opening scene was for
Speaker 1: me what I love compared to the yelling of the alarm.
Speaker 1: But we won't mention the episode that I'll take the
Speaker 1: bulbs over the alarm any day as well. But it
Speaker 1: was a really cute scene. It was nice to see
Speaker 1: them together and it was laughing and squealing and acting
Speaker 1: like kids and being grossed out by things. And the
Speaker 1: bat was epically Sally's draw. There's sighting, uh, and she
Speaker 1: always delivers the best of the best comedy. Uh, coming
Speaker 1: out of your yingang. I love that. I know I'm
Speaker 1: getting ahead of the best lines. But she says color
Speaker 1: coming out of your yinging? And did you hear Rory
Speaker 1: saying maybe you'll get a man right right? I think
Speaker 1: I missed that. Oh my god, it was so good.
Speaker 1: But that's good because that that's the theme of you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of the theme of the episode. Right, it's
Speaker 1: like trying to get a dude. Um. And when I
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't mad when we went back to Yale, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I thought Yale was wonderful stuff because they established uh
Speaker 1: Janet's character, they established ton a little more. We go
Speaker 1: into the dining hall and there's other people, characters, and
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, she meets all the other you know,
Speaker 1: what's his face, what's his name? The naked with Marty, Marty,
Speaker 1: Marty's friend is in the whole thing, and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like I felt like I was at a real place
Speaker 1: and here we get to see the inside and it
Speaker 1: was it was just alway. I actually wrote a note,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back at school, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: noticed this is the second time Marty's mentioned his brother.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I just I was like, why are
Speaker 1: we talking about his brother? Because maybe I forgot do
Speaker 1: we know who his brother is? Yeah? She Marty mentioned
Speaker 1: his older brother. Um, the piece of chicken that he
Speaker 1: he would get the bigger pieces of chicken, right, so
Speaker 1: he would actually never get he would never get the
Speaker 1: good pieces right, and he mentioned the brother when he
Speaker 1: was naked, like this is more embarrassing than anything my
Speaker 1: brother has ever done, or something like yeah. So in
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, do we ever see Marty's
Speaker 1: brother because it was just twice in a row. Do
Speaker 1: we know that the brother goes to Yale or no?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's forty minutes from Providence.
Speaker 1: It's the coffee up is forty minutes from Providence. That's
Speaker 1: like nothing. We're on a tight schedule. We're we're in
Speaker 1: a really tight schedule. It's super tight. All Right, you
Speaker 1: can go next time you're in Rhoda. All right, thanks,
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Um so what did you think of going
Speaker 1: to the cafeteria? First of all, I love that she's like,
Speaker 1: breakfast ends in five minutes. Well, I like, you know,
Speaker 1: Paris enters the scene screaming and it's it's jarring and
Speaker 1: it should be because Rory's supposed to be asleep. And
Speaker 1: then she comes in screaming and wakes her up and
Speaker 1: you didn't wake me up, and she missed the waffle
Speaker 1: waffle bar day and the whole thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's full bar day and nothing I mean, she's just
Speaker 1: like that was happy that it wasn't like you dropped
Speaker 1: my alarm I'm late for class, because that would have
Speaker 1: been like the fact. Once I realized, oh, she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to miss the end of breakfast, it became much
Speaker 1: more enjoyable and funny to me. Food is so important
Speaker 1: to the Gilmore family. So right, uh so now we're
Speaker 1: so now we're in the commissary and we do she
Speaker 1: meets the breakfast crew, which I don't know why she
Speaker 1: didn't just sit down with them. I was a little bombed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, those dudes are fun and cute. She was embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, I also don't think i'd want to
Speaker 1: sit down in my robe and pajamas with a group
Speaker 1: of guys right with their bunny slippers. I'd rather I'd
Speaker 1: rather just like crawling in a hole and no one
Speaker 1: noticed me, like if I was, and she was just
Speaker 1: gonna jump in, and Marty was being sort of nice.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I wonted her to like join in
Speaker 1: a bit more. Yeah, but like her and Marty are
Speaker 1: in a different level like that, you know, like she's
Speaker 1: seen him naked already. I think Marty sees it as
Speaker 1: maybe a potential dating situation, and she doesn't. Right, do
Speaker 1: you think maybe that's a dynamic there? Maybe that's what
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean, or or I don't know, or
Speaker 1: something sort of like off with them still, But I
Speaker 1: was like, the breakfast crew looks cute, and first of all,
Speaker 1: they all seemed kind of recognizable to me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: are all these dudes famous? And then uh, it seems
Speaker 1: fun eat their eggs or whatever. Yeah, but you eat
Speaker 1: their eggs. She looks kind of crappy in college. You
Speaker 1: don't want to sit down with a bunch of dudes,
Speaker 1: I mean casual breakfast. Yeah, but that's Rory. She's you know,
Speaker 1: she's naturally shown kind of set up like the whole
Speaker 1: episode too, like, you know, get yourself out there. Definitely
Speaker 1: m hm m h m. All right, and then where
Speaker 1: do we go next to the diner? So now we
Speaker 1: see Lorelai who's turned the diner into her office. Janes
Speaker 1: there's cook Janes kind of busting at the scenes and
Speaker 1: we don't know why. Um so she's on her cell phone.
Speaker 1: He runs her out of there, and the funny part
Speaker 1: of it is she does the entire phone call on
Speaker 1: the way out never gets out the door. The phone
Speaker 1: call ends at the door, she comes back in. Did
Speaker 1: you please tell me you guys noticed that the background
Speaker 1: actor with the burger though, no, you got okay, anybody
Speaker 1: listening to me a favor, go right back to this
Speaker 1: scene and we will do it for you too. On Instagram.
Speaker 1: You gotta zoom in on the dude with the burger.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was almost like heat because of the
Speaker 1: way the camera was. It was more him than you guys,
Speaker 1: and burger just gigantic. And then he you can tell
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to take a bike because it'll wreck
Speaker 1: the like continuity, so he's sort of tapping it. You guys,
Speaker 1: somebody's got to pull up the scene. You must put
Speaker 1: it on Instagram because I know they're trying to get
Speaker 1: the scene. I'm gonna I'm gonna watch this episode later.
Speaker 1: Anyhow could anyone miss it? I don't know. I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see it because we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to notice it. So you must have been like in
Speaker 1: the action with luc Lorelei and I just was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on with that dude? Well, I couldn't take
Speaker 1: my eyes off of her. You know, he taps it
Speaker 1: almost and then he's trying to talk fake talk to
Speaker 1: the person acrossroom him. You guys, it was an epic
Speaker 1: background actress actor moment. Oh, oh it's happening. Here we go,
Speaker 1: it's right there. Did you see that the burger? Watch
Speaker 1: watch the burger in the back hold on, so look
Speaker 1: at his burger comes up, whole burger. But he knows
Speaker 1: I can't take a bite of this. How to do
Speaker 1: something on the see is it? Is it a fake burger? No? No,
Speaker 1: those are real burgers. He tapped it. What's who doesn't
Speaker 1: do a burger tap? That's like everybody listening. When he
Speaker 1: was holding the burger and he took a drink of
Speaker 1: his soda, never said never, he didn't take the burger.
Speaker 1: He but he took it. He was holding the burg
Speaker 1: with both and now and now he's like flailing it
Speaker 1: around in the background for the rest of the scene,
Speaker 1: like he's talking with the burger. I'm eating a burger
Speaker 1: and wait for it. Now it's going to come up again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's never taking a bite that. That's the same dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's a burger waiver. It's a pretty big it's
Speaker 1: a pretty big burger. Burger waver. He's not a burger eater. Look,
Speaker 1: then the girl left him. She went to get the mustard.
Speaker 1: There's so much action, and now he doesn't have the burger.
Speaker 1: I think it's down, and he's wife rubbing his hands
Speaker 1: a lot of mustard. Oh my god, now he's putting O. Wait,
Speaker 1: now the girl's gone, is she? There is so much
Speaker 1: action happening with that couple. I can't get enough. Oh, Bravo, bravo.
Speaker 1: Background nice All right? Well, uh, anyway, who knew there
Speaker 1: was far more interesting stuff happening behind It's Michelle's cheap
Speaker 1: days and uh, funny moment to take him somewhere else,
Speaker 1: get him out of here. He wanted he wanted to
Speaker 1: know the ingredients of the chocolate, the chocolate. But I
Speaker 1: also loved this. You're right, Scott. This episode had such
Speaker 1: good writing because I love when he goes oh, I
Speaker 1: love doing research for the sake of doing research, because
Speaker 1: he's done all his work for her, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I found somebody. I was even like, yeah, important question
Speaker 1: for you, Scott. Are you feeling better about phone calls?
Speaker 1: Because in this episode there were two, at least two
Speaker 1: amazingly perfect phone calls one right here where Emily calls,
Speaker 1: and then later on during the date, I mean, come
Speaker 1: on that phone call. They they work, They work beautifully.
Speaker 1: The phone calls work beautiful because there's so much going
Speaker 1: on in person that the phone calls provide a kind
Speaker 1: of a welcome sad drama. But then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: are they going to get back to the scene after
Speaker 1: the phone call and continue that banter? So yes, it
Speaker 1: all worked. It was the perfect use of phone calls, Yes,
Speaker 1: because it kind of gave you like almost a breather
Speaker 1: and everything that's happening that you're like, okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually wish some of these scenes were longer. There were
Speaker 1: scenes in this episode where I'm like, oh, wait, what
Speaker 1: we're moving on already at more? Yeah, exactly as I
Speaker 1: felt the same way. It was really fast paced, really great.
Speaker 1: They just packed so much stuff into every scene. All
Speaker 1: the great line that Lorelai should be rs V ping
Speaker 1: for Friday night dinner. I do, yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know. My My take on it was
Speaker 1: like really just needs to like let it go, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, like it is what it is,
Speaker 1: it's Frida night dinner, it's you it's your parents house.
Speaker 1: It's not like you know, if you can't make it,
Speaker 1: that's fine, just call her. I mean she already didn't.
Speaker 1: I could throw on a couple of extra lamb shops.
Speaker 1: Come on, they have plenty of food at that house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're not making it there, sure right? What
Speaker 1: did you guys think Emily with the ponytail? I like it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I liked everything about it. Really, boy, Emily, what an
Speaker 1: episode for her? Yeah? Boy, she really took it in
Speaker 1: the shorts, didn't. We will get to it. But the
Speaker 1: other thing that I thought was so relatable, especially today,
Speaker 1: this was almost like a premonition, you know, when you're
Speaker 1: on the phone with someone and they're reading something, because
Speaker 1: she's like, are you reading while talking? And I was
Speaker 1: literally like most relatable thing ever. These days, everyone's trying
Speaker 1: to talk on the phone and text at the same
Speaker 1: time and they're not responding to you, and you know,
Speaker 1: there's like a there's like a huh, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? What did you wait? What did you say?
Speaker 1: What you say? Say it again. I've definitely done that.
Speaker 1: I might have been caught doing that by Scott um
Speaker 1: last pop culture, you do it a lot. I forgive
Speaker 1: me though, because I know you've got you know, you're
Speaker 1: so busy, you know you've got a million balls in here,
Speaker 1: So I don't don't, I don't bust your chops about it.
Speaker 1: Uh So, now we go back to Yale, which I
Speaker 1: was again happy about, and that guy was a cutie
Speaker 1: that tried to ask her out, do you eat the Trevor?
Speaker 1: The Trevor? Yeah, he was very awkward, but I guess
Speaker 1: I guess he was an appealing young man, wasn't he? Yes,
Speaker 1: I wrote Rory W t F Like she was so
Speaker 1: not picking up what he was putting down. Well, why,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe, I mean, look at who she's dated,
Speaker 1: Dean and then Jess. I mean, now she's it's a
Speaker 1: whole different breed of cat over there, which in in
Speaker 1: the next scene, lore I does say you didn't date them,
Speaker 1: you were in a relationship with them. Yeah, right, I
Speaker 1: don't know that she's ever actually been like asked on
Speaker 1: a date, but she dated them in the beginning. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a full blow really well, not Jess, Well,
Speaker 1: she dated Dean, it was. It wasn't a full blown
Speaker 1: relationship right away, wasn't. No, that's right, it was sort
Speaker 1: of remember that he was over for the move blurty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean what a date with LORELEI? Right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say my only criticism, buckle up, everybody, was it
Speaker 1: was a little too fast and frenetic for me with Lane.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks for the pizza actually, but that okay. But
Speaker 1: that actually worked because she, you know, she had to
Speaker 1: do her little version of a speed date friendship date
Speaker 1: with Rory and get the heck back because you know,
Speaker 1: the ochra was drying out or something. And I did
Speaker 1: think it was a funny reference that Mrs Kim has
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of internet ordering. Respect Mrs Kim.
Speaker 1: I'm all about the Internet myself, right, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: just could have used a little bit more late. I
Speaker 1: liked what we got. I liked what we got. She
Speaker 1: was she was, She was just perfect pitch. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I had a couple of bites since she
Speaker 1: was out of there, bye, you know, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about the war that is brewing between Janet and
Speaker 1: paris Us. I thought that was great and I thought
Speaker 1: that Janet really uh stood up for herself and held
Speaker 1: her own and I was like, oh, yeah, that's our girl. Man.
Speaker 1: We just interviewed her. She's she's gonna like put a
Speaker 1: thumping on old Paris, like she better watch out. You know.
Speaker 1: She just said, you know, I I am, after all,
Speaker 1: on partial scholarship. You know, don't embellish with all the
Speaker 1: balls I have. There's one ball, you know, right right
Speaker 1: right right? Um? So yeah, I like that dynamic. I
Speaker 1: want to see more of that because that's good conflict
Speaker 1: between those and all right, I enjoy everything with Tana too. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I jumped a tin of it ahead. So this
Speaker 1: is where lore La addresses to Rory, like you saw
Speaker 1: Marty and she says he's sweet, and she's like, does
Speaker 1: he have a bad but like any guys on the horizon, notpe.
Speaker 1: So they're sort of having this conversation about boys and
Speaker 1: he's preppy. And remember she judges him for carrying the
Speaker 1: bottle of water. Not Marty, but the other guy she
Speaker 1: carrying a bottle of water. She says he carries She says, um,
Speaker 1: he's decent to look at, but he carries a bottle
Speaker 1: of water around. It's weird. Now everyone cares. Now Rory
Speaker 1: says that right, sah, no, you can't do that hydration? Yeah, bad, right,
Speaker 1: She says that about Trevor right, because she tells her mom,
Speaker 1: Now it's like such a thing with like the Stanley,
Speaker 1: the Stanley cups and like the hydro flask. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I saw this TikTok where this woman is talking about
Speaker 1: growing up in the eighties and she's like, we never
Speaker 1: had water, like never, and we didn't die, Like we
Speaker 1: totally live by the way. I literally have a I
Speaker 1: have one next to meet. But now that we know
Speaker 1: how important being hydrated is, you know, it's like we've
Speaker 1: adapted as a species to but especially in colleges now,
Speaker 1: like I feel like everyone does carry around like a
Speaker 1: hydroflask totally. Yeah, as maybe the water supply in each
Speaker 1: city and town, like no one really has plastic bottles. Now,
Speaker 1: we'd have a weird tangent. When you were on Gilmour Girls,
Speaker 1: was there something that like you loved to have in
Speaker 1: your dressing room? Like that was your what's your number
Speaker 1: one thing that you like? You know how most celebrities
Speaker 1: have like a fruit platter and peria or whatever, Like
Speaker 1: what's what was your thing? I mean they would stock
Speaker 1: their refrigerator with with water, and uh, I liked orange
Speaker 1: juice and apple juice and cranberry juice, juices. You're a
Speaker 1: juice man. A lot of a lot of sugar in
Speaker 1: that their carrot juice. Oh no, that's good for you.
Speaker 1: That's good. Did you ever take I guess character could
Speaker 1: take a sip of something pretty easily in the diner,
Speaker 1: drink a little drink or that's not I never, I
Speaker 1: don't remember drinking anything in the dinner. Let's do busy working. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was in between takes. You take your little steps. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let's see here. But I love the fact
Speaker 1: that they introduced uh and I we're going back to Trevor.
Speaker 1: But I love the fact that they're discussing Hemingway and
Speaker 1: they're they're discussing uh. I guess that's for whom the
Speaker 1: bell tolls. That all went over my head. There was
Speaker 1: a few things in this so went over my head,
Speaker 1: even that, Um yeah, in that class, that professor's talking
Speaker 1: and it was like to me, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know that, did you. I didn't know what that
Speaker 1: guy was talking about. The teacher, the professor. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a good discussion of the novel, the basic
Speaker 1: themes of the novel. Um. Anyway, So wait, sidebar really quick.
Speaker 1: Is one of the Breakfast Crew named Sugarman. When you
Speaker 1: texted that last night, I was like, I no idea
Speaker 1: what that? Okay, So there's an actor in this episode
Speaker 1: named Adam Shapiro, and obviously I already hit him up.
Speaker 1: He's coming on with us. His character is named Sugarman.
Speaker 1: And for anyone, I'm not making it about me, save
Speaker 1: your letters, but my last name Sugarman. So we got
Speaker 1: to talk to that dude. But I can't figure out
Speaker 1: who he is. He must have been in the Breakfast crew.
Speaker 1: M hmm, we'll find out. You think Amy Palladino is
Speaker 1: giving a nod to you in the future. I was,
Speaker 1: first of all, wait, another funny line though there's like
Speaker 1: a thousand there's thousands of because she says, you're you know,
Speaker 1: something about like I'm not the world's best dater, but
Speaker 1: I do it, and then like Rory storms off and
Speaker 1: she's all, did I win? Everything is so good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's really good. So Scott, do you remember? So
Speaker 1: now we meet Natalie Zimmer in her beautiful, perfect turquoise
Speaker 1: necklace is lovely. Immediately I was like, she's lovely and beautiful.
Speaker 1: I know her who is that? Well, you know, that's
Speaker 1: Tracy Lords. I did my I was on the verge
Speaker 1: of going back to New York my first trip out
Speaker 1: here to l A, because I was broke and I
Speaker 1: had worn out my welcome on several people's couches. Right,
Speaker 1: So I was going to head back to New York
Speaker 1: because things weren't working out for me here. And I
Speaker 1: got a film, uh, playing Tracy Lord's husband. Yes, called
Speaker 1: Intend to Kill like a PM entertainment straight later work.
Speaker 1: Not her early work, no, right, right, right, right now.
Speaker 1: It was legit acting work. It had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with you know, her former career, right, no judgments, but
Speaker 1: for people listening, Tracy Lords became very famous for her
Speaker 1: work in the adult film film industry, right and and
Speaker 1: then she ended up working with John waters On on
Speaker 1: some of his films. And turns out she's a really
Speaker 1: strong actress, you know, and really by yeah and cry
Speaker 1: Baby and the whole thing and so um so. Anyway,
Speaker 1: so she was I think producing that film and sort
Speaker 1: of had the decision and she hired me to play
Speaker 1: her husband. When so were you happy to see her?
Speaker 1: Did you guys get to see each other? Oh? I
Speaker 1: I had no idea. She was cast and when I
Speaker 1: saw I was like, oh my god, how you doing? It?
Speaker 1: Had been it had been a minute, you know, it's
Speaker 1: been ten years at least. You actresses who worked in
Speaker 1: adult films, who really was able to cross over and
Speaker 1: do like mainstream acting. And she's excellent in this episode
Speaker 1: and lovely. She took control of her life. She took
Speaker 1: her control back and she you know, executed her game
Speaker 1: plan and she's doing very very well. So good for her. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I thought she was perfectly cast as Natalie Zimmer
Speaker 1: and I thought she was adorable. And that's where we
Speaker 1: get Now we get the argyle sweater and the black
Speaker 1: skirt and the leather jacket. Did we get it that soon? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes we do. Yeah, yeah she doesn't. We don't get
Speaker 1: the leather jacket quite yet, but we get the argyle
Speaker 1: sweater and the black skirt because she then walks through
Speaker 1: town and we see Suki pregnant, really pregnant, right right right? Right? Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's scene about the Jackson Jackson naming the baby Colgate.
Speaker 1: I actually needed to rewind this. I was so confused.
Speaker 1: Did she not say the baby's name is Davy? Davy?
Speaker 1: It was Davy. Yes, but because but Jackson doesn't know.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to know, so she's just naming the baby. Well,
Speaker 1: they agreed if it's a boy, and she wasn't letting
Speaker 1: on that she that she knew, right, I mean she,
Speaker 1: I mean, he knows that she knows, so, but she
Speaker 1: didn't want to him herself into just a boy name
Speaker 1: because then that would give away that she knew what
Speaker 1: the sex of the baby was, because it weren't they
Speaker 1: in this together, like they like, I don't want to know,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't know. She's paying like she doesn't know too.
Speaker 1: Write The part that I just was missing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, do I need to rewind? This? Was that
Speaker 1: she named the baby Davy. But wouldn't you wait? Okay?
Speaker 1: So my head was like, wait, why are they just
Speaker 1: not waiting? She she told that to Laurel. She didn't
Speaker 1: tell that to Jackson. Now I get it. I'm so dumb.
Speaker 1: And she said, no, no, it's not it's it was yeah,
Speaker 1: but she said, if it's a girl, we're naming her
Speaker 1: cold Gate. If it's a boy, let's do Davy, you know,
Speaker 1: And she knows it's a boy. So she told Laura,
Speaker 1: we're going to name it. It's Davy because he agreed
Speaker 1: to that. I just realized I'm a complete idiot that
Speaker 1: I didn't get that. They said, if it's a boy, this,
Speaker 1: If it's a girl, so she knows, right, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Cold Gate, what kind of a name is your girl?
Speaker 1: I was today years old when I realized, do you
Speaker 1: worry much? I mean, you only work like eighteen hours
Speaker 1: a day, right, is that it? Of course, if it's
Speaker 1: a boy, this, if it's a girl this, and she
Speaker 1: knows it's a boy. Oh my god, Hello, meet meet
Speaker 1: Colgate Douglas. Colgate, Colgate Douglas would be her name. It
Speaker 1: was a girl, because it's Jackson Douglas or Colgate St. James,
Speaker 1: Colgate St. James Douglas. I like Davy. What her name?
Speaker 1: Davy Douglas, Davy St. James. It works, It all works, Cyber.
Speaker 1: The town looks amazing the way they do that. It's
Speaker 1: just yeah, I actually noticed that too. It's really pretty.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a nice place to work, and
Speaker 1: we would often sit in the gazebo and relax and
Speaker 1: on on cooler days. Right, that's so nice. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then we we we got good use out of that
Speaker 1: gazebo just for saying Suki's hair looked amazing. Relies hair
Speaker 1: looked amazing. Everybody looked so good in this episode. Just
Speaker 1: a quick note on hair. Um. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is actually true. Someone someone said that in the
Speaker 1: last episode when Rory cut her hair, she might have
Speaker 1: been filming sister heard of the traveling pants. I saw that,
Speaker 1: but I thought she looked good in this episode. I
Speaker 1: really liked that she looked totally down with the short
Speaker 1: hair because it makes her more collegiate. Like I feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was the high school Rory and now we've got college. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like by the way, I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of girls do that, like they want something fresh,
Speaker 1: they just chop it all off. So it made sense.
Speaker 1: We saw lor I put the glasses on again in
Speaker 1: this episode, so cute. It really went with the sweater
Speaker 1: vest totally like I don't want to get kind of
Speaker 1: weird Britney spears in this, but like the fact that
Speaker 1: she had like the glasses and the argyle, but then
Speaker 1: the short skirt. I was like, oh, this is so cute.
Speaker 1: Maybe one more time, So okay, so we know now
Speaker 1: I think I can't exactly remember exactly where, But we
Speaker 1: also know that Rory has that scene with Trevor where
Speaker 1: she you know, oh I could be hungry, you know,
Speaker 1: gets him to ask her out like, oh you know
Speaker 1: what I do I eat? Like m h very funny,
Speaker 1: and then and then when he comes around, her last
Speaker 1: line is, um, you're so persistent. Was very clever. Then
Speaker 1: we realized that lor los everybody four thousand dollars and
Speaker 1: that Luke has taken her messages, which was totally amusing
Speaker 1: from yeah, yeah, he was a bit edgy, wasn't He
Speaker 1: hadn't he yelled at poor head? And then we find
Speaker 1: out why snapping at everybody snapping coming here again? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: just kind of it was kind of fun. Oh that's
Speaker 1: not gonna you know. You know what I appreciate about it, though,
Speaker 1: even though you kind of grading mcgrast, is that we're
Speaker 1: not just pretending like the Nicole thing was Nicole, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a cool We're not just pretending that that damaged.
Speaker 1: Like the thing I like about Gilmore is that they're
Speaker 1: actually saying, Okay, they're acknowledging it, you're bummed about it. Still,
Speaker 1: we didn't just make it disappear, right, This is how
Speaker 1: human beings feel, right, even though they're in the setting.
Speaker 1: You know, there's got to be like an ouch factor here.
Speaker 1: He's and he's only he's a little he's going through
Speaker 1: those stages, right, So he's in one of his he's
Speaker 1: in the angry stage. And nothing's more luke like than
Speaker 1: not wanting to plan. And I that tracks, you know,
Speaker 1: and we get it like it hurts you planned and
Speaker 1: it burned you and your feelings are hurt right right? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really want to resist commenting on the character so much.
Speaker 1: You guys, comment on the character what you're We want
Speaker 1: to know you are him. We want to hear what
Speaker 1: you have to say. You can take some mean bleep
Speaker 1: on Instagram. You know. At first, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: not that, it's it's you know, at first, I thought,
Speaker 1: oh god, you know, he's it's a little too snappy.
Speaker 1: It's a little too it's like too much anger at her.
Speaker 1: And it's not like that's not funny. But why did
Speaker 1: I laugh that? You know, I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just it was in character for
Speaker 1: little I thought, so, okay, I agree, I agree because
Speaker 1: because I got judge with myself and I go, oh, jeez,
Speaker 1: you now you're going after Laurelai the way you came
Speaker 1: but known as a grump. So it wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: she keeps up with you could show and then she
Speaker 1: says Benji and she says lastie. And then the thing
Speaker 1: I like is you tell her what's really going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a relationship like you're allowed to be like because
Speaker 1: then you say, here's what's going on and then she says,
Speaker 1: you know what, come over for a movie. They are
Speaker 1: really good friends. Yeah, it was nice. It was a
Speaker 1: nice scene. It was really nice when it got to
Speaker 1: that point. Did anyone else think that Luke totally thought
Speaker 1: it was a date in lore Lae, I was just
Speaker 1: inviting him over. No. I think they both were totally
Speaker 1: on the same page on what it was. Well, what
Speaker 1: do you think it was? What do you think it
Speaker 1: was a friend date? Like each other that aren't ready
Speaker 1: to tell each other. No, I not right, But I
Speaker 1: think they both were aware that here's an opportunity to
Speaker 1: go on a date without having to admit that's what
Speaker 1: I'm exactly right. And I think they were both happy,
Speaker 1: really happy about it because it wasn't awkward or weird
Speaker 1: or exactly just organically came up and it was like, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think that Luke thought of it a little
Speaker 1: bit more than Laura I did. But that was, you
Speaker 1: know why rewind it to the scene where she looks
Speaker 1: at him. There's a couple of looks and she looks
Speaker 1: at him in the perfect way like at the house, yep,
Speaker 1: and she looks especially I think when he's asleep, but
Speaker 1: there might have been one other and she looks at
Speaker 1: him like you but I mean, I mean at the
Speaker 1: diner when she invited. I think right off the bat,
Speaker 1: Luke thought of it more than Laura I did. Okay,
Speaker 1: you could be right, because I also respected that he
Speaker 1: said okay. I just think he's not because he could
Speaker 1: have said like, oh no, you don't have to have
Speaker 1: me over, but he just immediately says, okay, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know, I think maybe you're right,
Speaker 1: but it's close. I was just I mean, I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about I don't think he was going to
Speaker 1: allow himself to go there mentally that this was a date,
Speaker 1: but it was an opportunity to get inside the house.
Speaker 1: Since spent some time with somebody obviously is very fine,
Speaker 1: and they haven't had one on one time and like
Speaker 1: a long time, so he's definitely not dreading it. We
Speaker 1: know that that's true, and she's not courtesy inviting him
Speaker 1: or pity inviting him annuinely is like I want you
Speaker 1: to come over. They're both excited. They're like, oh, that's cool, perfect.
Speaker 1: So what so what give me a percentage of like
Speaker 1: for Laurel eye she being a buddy a pal or
Speaker 1: she being like, hey, maybe this will turn into something.
Speaker 1: What percentage buddy? What percentage? I think it's like for me,
Speaker 1: I think it's like sixty potential buddy. But the thing
Speaker 1: that yeah, but because the reason is is that she
Speaker 1: was like, well, Rory and I usually do moving that,
Speaker 1: but she's not here, So do you want to come?
Speaker 1: So it felt a little like, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: missing out on someone else? Do you want to fill
Speaker 1: their spot? That's why I thought it like two friends
Speaker 1: who somewhere somewhere they have crushes. Yeah, and so it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: would you rather watch a movie with a friend that
Speaker 1: you sort of have a crush on or a friend
Speaker 1: that's you don't have a crush on friend you have
Speaker 1: the crush on. So I feel like they're both like, well,
Speaker 1: this is yeah, Loral, I just I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: to you. Loral sometimes just bugs me in the sense
Speaker 1: of like she never gets to the point, like she
Speaker 1: always like the beats around the bush. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: but I think that's why I always think like she's
Speaker 1: taking like a step back when she takes a step forward.
Speaker 1: M I felt like, that's just that's just me. I
Speaker 1: felt like this was like pretty cool, like it was.
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, she knew he was bummed because he's
Speaker 1: bummed about this Yankees tickets thing with Nicole. So she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you come over, which is super nice, And
Speaker 1: I love that he said okay, and they didn't irritate
Speaker 1: me with it. She said it, he said yes, they
Speaker 1: have the funny banter about the movie, and off we go.
Speaker 1: And then I also, well, I'm jumping ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're past the diner scene now, okay,
Speaker 1: So we'll go in order rather than jump right to
Speaker 1: the date. Now we've got And I do want to
Speaker 1: comment on the writing from the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: I think the most interesting and best device that they
Speaker 1: ever came up with for that character, for that Luke
Speaker 1: character is to be annoyed by her all the time.
Speaker 1: It's so, that's true. That's true, And it just says
Speaker 1: that he's resisting her so much in a way just
Speaker 1: on the surface, when you know underneath he's dying inside.
Speaker 1: So I I think that's very powerful. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: And I say, the reason I love it is because
Speaker 1: they're both authentically themselves with each other. And okay, so
Speaker 1: we will skip to the date. So even when they're
Speaker 1: on the couch, he's not kissing her asked or like,
Speaker 1: he's like like basically rolling his eyes and her rules
Speaker 1: and he's not even following them. And he I mean,
Speaker 1: let's talk about him answering the phone her. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: answer the I mean, first of all, God, there's so
Speaker 1: many the date. It's just like we could do an
Speaker 1: hour on the date. It was amazing. They're so comfortable,
Speaker 1: they're so hilarious shifting and he's like basically like I'll shift,
Speaker 1: you know. Then Rory calls, and of course I love
Speaker 1: that Luke is totally in it. He gives the advice
Speaker 1: and they take it. Yeah, it's so genius. Then you answer,
Speaker 1: and it's Mrs Gilmore and like, hey, Mrs Gilmore, it's Luke.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, oh right, the plot thickens.
Speaker 1: That was the best scene in the whole episode. That
Speaker 1: was the best scene because it so includes in that
Speaker 1: I include Rory's awkward date and Emily calling. The whole
Speaker 1: thing is really one scene and out of ten m
Speaker 1: that was great. Yeah. They're they're really good together, aren't they.
Speaker 1: Those two characters, they just really are fun to watch,
Speaker 1: you know, really fun to watch. Um. Yeah, there's something
Speaker 1: about them that you you really get a crush on
Speaker 1: both of them, Like, I really like these people. But
Speaker 1: there was a point there in that scene where they're
Speaker 1: looking at each other and I thought they were about
Speaker 1: to kiss. I didn't get a kiss moment. I just
Speaker 1: I know, I thought they were. I thought that there
Speaker 1: was a post there was a moment there where they
Speaker 1: just I don't know, it just felt right like if
Speaker 1: he had just made a move and kissed her or something,
Speaker 1: or if she made a sudden moved to kiss him,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been crazy. No, not at all. But
Speaker 1: it's so cute how they are. They're like an old
Speaker 1: married cup They really are. It's really And then and
Speaker 1: then the fact that, like she tucks him in and
Speaker 1: he falls. First of all, he's comfortable enough to fall
Speaker 1: asleep there. That doesn't happen when you're not comfortable. And
Speaker 1: she's comfortable to have him sleep there, and Rory is
Speaker 1: she's not thinking anything. Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like it's all just so normal. And what do
Speaker 1: you think the significance of watching Casablanca was a good question.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you don't you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's think about it. What was that about?
Speaker 1: It was about? You know, I've never seen it, so,
Speaker 1: but are those two ingrid Bergman and what's the guest name?
Speaker 1: Are they like unrequited love? And then they finally get
Speaker 1: together kind of that and then they break apart again.
Speaker 1: I think, oh no, what do they end together? What
Speaker 1: happens in the end? I mean they I think everybody
Speaker 1: has to escape and get out of there because the
Speaker 1: Nazis are coming in. They flooded into Casa Blanket. They
Speaker 1: have to get the heck out of there. Here's looking
Speaker 1: at you, kid. Uh Now, It's like, I think, one
Speaker 1: day we're going to be really good friends. This is
Speaker 1: the beginning of a really beautiful friendship with the with
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one with
Speaker 1: the chief, not the chief of police, but the general,
Speaker 1: the French generals. Yeah yeah, So I think I think
Speaker 1: there's there's a relations since we know that Casa Blanca
Speaker 1: so well. I mean, of course we're trying it in beautifully.
Speaker 1: I think there's something there, you know, this unrequited part. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll take more into this. But let's reverse to Friday
Speaker 1: night dinner when Laura La gets there early, and that
Speaker 1: was like a lot of interaction Laura La and the
Speaker 1: maid and then Laura La goes back out of the car.
Speaker 1: By the way, I really felt that, like he you know,
Speaker 1: when you're like going with someone and you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna wait in my car and totally show up
Speaker 1: to walk it like I've totally been there. I mean
Speaker 1: it's different, like she should have gone. It was her mom,
Speaker 1: her parents house, But say, sometimes I want to hide
Speaker 1: in my car for days. Let me tell you my
Speaker 1: favorite thing about that whole scene. But that was a
Speaker 1: funny scene shadow dancing. Oh, I mean I got a
Speaker 1: great scene and the entrance was great. See this shows
Speaker 1: how great a comedic actress Lauren is right with the
Speaker 1: cup here tucked in her neck and then dropping down
Speaker 1: and then holding onto the the purse handle thing. Oh,
Speaker 1: she's the Roy's not here. Well maybe I'll just oh.
Speaker 1: And that's when she's wearing the dress, which which dress?
Speaker 1: That purplely pattern dress. She still she still has the
Speaker 1: leather jacket on right, Yes, she's wearing the leather jacket again.
Speaker 1: She's literally Tara shadow dancing by Andy Gett is jest fantastic.
Speaker 1: My love for Andy Gibb goes on to this very day.
Speaker 1: It was there. It was a perfect piece of me.
Speaker 1: And they cleared that song right, so I had to
Speaker 1: feel like it was like a moment that we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about. I don't know the song, but like
Speaker 1: you have to have clearance for that was a huge
Speaker 1: hit song, huge hit song. It was okay, so Andy
Speaker 1: GiB Tara do you know the Yeah? Okay, So the
Speaker 1: Bejs had a baby brother and that was Andy Gibb
Speaker 1: and he like blew up And this is probably like
Speaker 1: late seventies, early eighties, super good looking kid. He was
Speaker 1: dating all the holly he was he was in a
Speaker 1: relationship was one Yes, give me a second Victoria principle.
Speaker 1: All right, I was so jealous of that. Everybody had
Speaker 1: a crush on Victoria principles. This dude was and it
Speaker 1: was like, what this guy, come on, he was so
Speaker 1: seventies hot, Like that's the only way I can describe
Speaker 1: him with the like let me, I'll pull up a
Speaker 1: picture for you. I mean, I'm sure we'll talk about
Speaker 1: him again in pop culture. But do you ever get married? No?
Speaker 1: And then he died. It was so sad. He died
Speaker 1: really young, like like really young. I think maybe in
Speaker 1: his thirties. Oh my god, Tara, I do not know
Speaker 1: if this is what your first. Of all, it's so
Speaker 1: he's so seventies. But literally, that guy he never buttoned
Speaker 1: his shirt up all the way, like that guy's never
Speaker 1: seen it. At the hair, he's never even seen the
Speaker 1: third button be buttoned, like look at this, look at this.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: want to speak for everybody, so I hope people will
Speaker 1: let us know. But for my age, that was like
Speaker 1: the first crush where you're like, I think I love him.
Speaker 1: I can see it though. That hair he's never worn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like very like like Beaver Harry styles, like, I guess, yes,
Speaker 1: that's exact. He is Harry Style. So anyway, he had
Speaker 1: like five big hits. Oh yeah, that sad tale of
Speaker 1: But anyway, how funny was it when she unzipped her window.
Speaker 1: First of all, she's scared the Jesus out of her
Speaker 1: when Emily shows up, and then she unzips her window.
Speaker 1: I mean, just fantastic. What a great contrast sitting there
Speaker 1: bopping in her jeep wrangler right listening to the BGS
Speaker 1: or Andy Gibb and then has to unzip to the
Speaker 1: window to talk to her mother in front of her castle.
Speaker 1: It was just funny. And then when they find then
Speaker 1: they have their banter. I literally wrote, this banter is
Speaker 1: so good because she's talking about Suki's pregnant Las don't
Speaker 1: look at me. I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: That was a great line. Oh, that was a great line.
Speaker 1: Like a man I know went to her wedding suited
Speaker 1: Kirk like you know. But that was the part where
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess, you know, Lore, I really
Speaker 1: didn't have to tell her that Suki was pregnant like she,
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't have to. But also like god,
Speaker 1: why are they going back and forth? But just be like,
Speaker 1: but she did, But she did make a good point,
Speaker 1: Emily did. I went to her wedding. I sent her
Speaker 1: a wedding gift. Yeah, but wasn't she invited if I
Speaker 1: remember the night before. Yeah. But still Emily, she's just
Speaker 1: trying to be a part of it and she just
Speaker 1: keeps getting rejected. Yeah, she's trying. She's right, Scott. She
Speaker 1: is kind of butt her because she's always left out.
Speaker 1: But Laura is thinking, I'm trying to build an inn.
Speaker 1: I got a kid going to college. I literally just
Speaker 1: forgot to tell you. Yeah. Yeah, but Mike, I was
Speaker 1: forgetting to tell your own mother. I mean, she barely
Speaker 1: wants to go inside the house without her. It hurts
Speaker 1: Emily to know that she's just not important enough to Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the inner in the inner circle, right, tell me though,
Speaker 1: the circle of trust, Greg, tell me though. Then then
Speaker 1: we find out that Rory's going on the date, and
Speaker 1: Emily's like a gas that, like, did Rory possibly ask him?
Speaker 1: And then lord license, it was very proper. She had
Speaker 1: a Tiffany Lamb shade over the red line. I was,
Speaker 1: It's God, he's a freaking genius. Then she says the
Speaker 1: sex in the City ensemble, which I was immediately like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she knows sex in the city. You know,
Speaker 1: sex in the city. Like, am I in this in
Speaker 1: this thing? You know what I'm wondering, Scott is okay?
Speaker 1: For all? What the storyline is is so important? Right?
Speaker 1: Is it? The script? Because I think the reason we're
Speaker 1: loving this episode is like, we literally have twenty favorite lines.
Speaker 1: So even if the story is great, you gotta have
Speaker 1: these lines. But okay, you right, but those lines come
Speaker 1: organically when and I don't want to get too wonky here,
Speaker 1: but uh, when when every scene hangs off of the spine.
Speaker 1: So the spine of the of this episode was all
Speaker 1: about dating and this kind of a thing, right and
Speaker 1: and and it but John mixed in and so every
Speaker 1: scene is related to that, right. So and the way
Speaker 1: he just uh mixed in everything and brought everything together,
Speaker 1: uh and uh and it's just it was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 1: It was absolutely brilliant because he stayed disciplined and he
Speaker 1: didn't go off on any kind of tangents at all,
Speaker 1: and he stayed with that theme. It felt like the
Speaker 1: episode was so fast. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: because he's because every scene because we were in it,
Speaker 1: and we were with it, and we were a little
Speaker 1: bit behind it, right, we didn't get ahead of it.
Speaker 1: We didn't get bored, we didn't get like we don't
Speaker 1: because look, if there's a scene that doesn't hang off
Speaker 1: the spine properly, you get jarred out of the narrative.
Speaker 1: You're like, what's going on if there's any confusion in
Speaker 1: the audience, Right, But if it stays on that spine,
Speaker 1: if these scenes all hang perfectly off that spine, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be in it. It's like being on a roller
Speaker 1: coaster and it's like yeah, and you're just like whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: You're always anticipating. You're anticipating, you're anticipating. It's like it
Speaker 1: goes high, it goes low, it goes around, it goes slow,
Speaker 1: it goes fast. Yeah. So um, and he did that beautifully.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was perfect, episode perfect. And also I
Speaker 1: messed up. At the Friday night dinner, Lorelei was still
Speaker 1: wearing the argyle sweater with the black skirt with the
Speaker 1: leather jacket. Now as we go to Mrs Kim's, she's
Speaker 1: wearing the dress with the purple e patterned tight dress
Speaker 1: with the leather jacket. So I apologize that I lured
Speaker 1: the outcomes with the hair and the eyes. There was
Speaker 1: a devastating look. It seems that there's only one furniture
Speaker 1: store anywhere, because I'm like, are they Mrs Kenny? They
Speaker 1: have to be right right? Dollar item? That was good
Speaker 1: and you know your mother would would hate this. Take it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. What was I called? It was called
Speaker 1: a lawn jockey? Um yeah, so yeah, So we sort
Speaker 1: of have that that interaction between Zimmerman, Natalie Zimmerman and
Speaker 1: lor Lie, which I do have a question when we
Speaker 1: get to it later, because I do think that Natalie
Speaker 1: sort of screwed lor Lie, which we can. I think
Speaker 1: she did too. That was so too and I don't think,
Speaker 1: yeah that was not. But it's like, how do you
Speaker 1: resist Emily. You imagine it's like she's tough, She's going
Speaker 1: to get you. Say, oh, I bogged down with ten
Speaker 1: clients right now. I would love to help you, but
Speaker 1: I've got ten clients. Let me let me get you
Speaker 1: family gilmore. And you know she said that she goes listen,
Speaker 1: I will make sure I will see to it that
Speaker 1: you will never worry in this town again, young lady, right,
Speaker 1: so she had to she had to bow down and
Speaker 1: cough up the info with Yeah. I mean, god, I
Speaker 1: can't believe how much of there is in this episode
Speaker 1: because we're not even like doing the date. YEA favorite
Speaker 1: scene of the whole episode of the date the date
Speaker 1: she is just so awkward. And my favorite line was
Speaker 1: the year and mints, like it actually made me think
Speaker 1: about it, like, oh my god, you're right, those are
Speaker 1: probably like every restaurant's YearIn miss Have we never talked
Speaker 1: about poop peanuts on this show? Peanuts bar bar peanuts, Yeah,
Speaker 1: or you might want to call them poop peanuts, which
Speaker 1: Tara did talk about, but you weren't on the show yet.
Speaker 1: Go back, do you guys remember the episode where they
Speaker 1: go to the spa, Lorelai and Emily go to the
Speaker 1: spa and then they go to the night out at
Speaker 1: the restaurant bar and how Lindon's there and Emily dances
Speaker 1: with him and they're eating the poop peanuts. You guys,
Speaker 1: have we seen this episode already? Yes, but you remember
Speaker 1: back back back then? But I will see now they
Speaker 1: don't have like I'm thinking about going to a bar
Speaker 1: don't they give you like your personal bowl of peanuts.
Speaker 1: First of all, after COVID, no one's getting you're in
Speaker 1: men's or poop peanuts. But the thing about the yurine
Speaker 1: min's were like they usually at the restaurants. The mints
Speaker 1: aren't like unwrapped, they're usually like do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? First of all, it was it was a
Speaker 1: very Seinfeld moment because you remember, remember the George Castandra
Speaker 1: the girl really liked him, and then he was got
Speaker 1: all cocky and theoretical about he goes. You know, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, you know, manure what a weird word.
Speaker 1: You got the ma and the newer manure weird. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden she doesn't want to see
Speaker 1: him anymore. I mean, let me tell you. And then
Speaker 1: I have to ask because I was like, I have
Speaker 1: to ask you, guys, are you a same side sitter
Speaker 1: or opposite? First of all, you can't sit on the
Speaker 1: same side. You can not. Your neck will hurt. It's
Speaker 1: not even done with talking about the urine mins. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: let's go back to the urine There's more unpack on
Speaker 1: the twenty minutes to talk about the same side sitting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got you got it? Urine mints, okay, is a
Speaker 1: real thing. And all I have to say is if
Speaker 1: I was on a date and the person I'm with
Speaker 1: mentioned urine mins, I'm in forever with them because it
Speaker 1: was it was so awkwardly amazing, Like I would have
Speaker 1: been like, I honestly poop peanuts and urine mint, Like
Speaker 1: if somebody reaches for the that, I would be like, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, in this conversation we're having now, it's like
Speaker 1: the conversation starter, right, Trevor is wrapped a little too tight,
Speaker 1: didn't he Okay, you can't blame Trevor. Trevor is like
Speaker 1: having a good time and he's chatting and she is weird.
Speaker 1: But but the urine means would have won me over.
Speaker 1: But why can't why can't you find it funny? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of funny. It was the best
Speaker 1: line in the whole thing. And he's just like and
Speaker 1: she explains the urine mince to Lorala, so good. Lauren
Speaker 1: Graham is the best acting because like she's a daughter
Speaker 1: tells and she's like trying so hard to be like like,
Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't want to tell Rory, like you
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have said that, so she's like going along
Speaker 1: with it, you know, she hangs a poor thing. And
Speaker 1: then it leads us to this amazing conversation about dating
Speaker 1: from Luke and Lore like, okay, I digress, Tara, all
Speaker 1: you about the same side sitting. I mean, I personally
Speaker 1: don't like it, but if someone does it, I'm not
Speaker 1: really with judging them. It's up to them. I think
Speaker 1: you've got to be at a point in your relationship
Speaker 1: with somebody where you're so comfortable with them and you're
Speaker 1: so attracted to them that you want to be next
Speaker 1: to each other so you can touch each other. But
Speaker 1: like the first the first date, but you don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, no, but I'm saying the first date,
Speaker 1: don't you want to sit across with them and have
Speaker 1: a conversation, like, you know, right about the neck? That
Speaker 1: would really that's weird on the first date to that's
Speaker 1: that's very strange. I thought it was so funny when
Speaker 1: Laurel I suggested, like, say there's a draft and I
Speaker 1: have to move and then it Luke out of it.
Speaker 1: That's right. Luke thought of it. But then Trevor also
Speaker 1: was like, oh, there's a there's a draft, so he
Speaker 1: got the power of suggestion. It was a great it
Speaker 1: was a great dat scene. It was it was for
Speaker 1: some reason I have I know this line happened vain
Speaker 1: party table of one. Why who said that? Didn't? Didn't
Speaker 1: Laurel say that? Yes? But why Luke? Yes? What was
Speaker 1: what was he being vain about? It was hilarious though?
Speaker 1: Why did he say that? But she did say it
Speaker 1: to Luke vain? Shoot, huh, well maybe somebody will. I'm
Speaker 1: going to watch it a second to see. This is
Speaker 1: why people watch to show so many times. There's so
Speaker 1: much to cover and there's no way we can cover
Speaker 1: all of it. So the machine goes off and mom,
Speaker 1: are you there? And immediately it's like, oh no, at
Speaker 1: the say datings are the worst, and I think Luke
Speaker 1: says it's a horror oh and then god this episode.
Speaker 1: Luke says, I know within seconds, if I'm comfortable with somebody,
Speaker 1: and I say correct, correct, you feel it, you feeling
Speaker 1: the gut right away. If you relax and you're comfortable,
Speaker 1: then you answer the phone and it's Mrs gil The
Speaker 1: only scene we skipped, so we skipped the scene where
Speaker 1: the roommates have the meeting, the roommate meeting. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: talked about that, but that was funny. Yeah, and Janet
Speaker 1: goes at it. Pears and Donna this is thrilling. M hm. See,
Speaker 1: this is what happened. And she's doing math on her hand,
Speaker 1: on her good sheets with her marker, and Rory is
Speaker 1: trying to model the outfits for Tonna and Tona is
Speaker 1: like not even getting it, and May's like, this is
Speaker 1: a bonding thing. Talks about pheromones. If you jump up
Speaker 1: and down and got to swim, get pheromones and be
Speaker 1: more attractive. But I mean, you know, now, Paris is
Speaker 1: in a place where she's going to have other people
Speaker 1: who will stand up to her. They're not going to
Speaker 1: be bullied by her. And she's found in Janet's character
Speaker 1: that very person who's just not having it though she
Speaker 1: likes she likes it because that's how Rory was with her.
Speaker 1: I think she likes it well. And all these people
Speaker 1: are at the top of their game, meaning Janet is
Speaker 1: a college athlete who also goes to Yale and probably
Speaker 1: is super bright, so she's like, uh yeah, speaking of
Speaker 1: speaking of the finger, did you guys notice when Luke
Speaker 1: and Lorel are watching the movie and they're going over
Speaker 1: the rules and Luke doesn't know what the FBI warning is,
Speaker 1: and then I think he either talks or ships and
Speaker 1: Lorela just goes does like finger acting. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh man leant me to tell you, guys.
Speaker 1: The number one reason I love gilmur Girl is in
Speaker 1: this episode. What is that? What is it? I don't
Speaker 1: get like a drum roll? Okay, okay, yeah, the laundry
Speaker 1: scene where there's the cutie they're doing. He took her
Speaker 1: laundry out, he folded it. He they're having this cute
Speaker 1: mantern and he said. She gets the the guts to say,
Speaker 1: do you want to have coffee? And he says no, no,
Speaker 1: because only only on Gilmore Girls are you getting a
Speaker 1: total unexpected just right. I think this was such an
Speaker 1: important episode for character development for Rory because like she's
Speaker 1: now on her own. She has to learn how to
Speaker 1: like be an adult, and like it's like loyalizes like oh,
Speaker 1: ask someone out on a date, like you know, like
Speaker 1: go do it yourself, and I feel like we saw
Speaker 1: that and then she gets rejected at the end, which
Speaker 1: is like a part of life. And I feel like
Speaker 1: Rory is not used to rejection, so it's just good
Speaker 1: fades out. Yeah, and we're just left hanging going at
Speaker 1: a little cutie he was and like, I guess, why
Speaker 1: does he have to get a copy with her? Doesn't
Speaker 1: want to? Yeah, John Stevens showed me the way into
Speaker 1: this new dynamic between mother and daughter not being together,
Speaker 1: and it's really exciting. It's gonna be I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to watching this. You know. I thought, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: take it out as ours hollow, we got problems, but no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is this is actually even better in a lot
Speaker 1: of senses because we get stars Hall and we get Yale.
Speaker 1: And that's how I felt. I felt like I was
Speaker 1: really excited every time we went back to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was so wait some one of our producers put
Speaker 1: it up there and I missed it. Of why she
Speaker 1: said party of one, your vain, vain party one looking
Speaker 1: at him because she was staring at him during It's
Speaker 1: it's like that annoying person that looks at looking at
Speaker 1: him during the like like watch this part, like hey,
Speaker 1: this is the good part. Are you watching him? She
Speaker 1: was watching him, watching right right right? So okay, guys,
Speaker 1: how many bowls of urine mins. Do you give this episode? Oh?
Speaker 1: This is on a scale of ten, I'm giving it.
Speaker 1: I love this episode. This is one of my favorite,
Speaker 1: top three, top three. I'm watch nine and a half
Speaker 1: bowls of urine mins a bowl for half a bowl
Speaker 1: to give ten's out for any Yeah, I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: this out for me, really really really yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: give tents out that easily, right, You don't just give
Speaker 1: out urine men's like they're nothing. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think this was This was two or three great episodes
Speaker 1: packed into one, and I don't know how he did
Speaker 1: it or how they did it, but it was fantastic.
Speaker 1: Every single sentence moved this story forward. Everything was funny.
Speaker 1: There were more funny lines, more funny situations than any
Speaker 1: any episode I've seen or can remember. I just was
Speaker 1: just so tickled by this entire thing. And I'm going,
Speaker 1: when we're done here, when we're done recording, I'm going
Speaker 1: to watch the thing again. Watch that dude, patt is
Speaker 1: burger for sure. Well that's why I thought it was
Speaker 1: a fake burger, because I was like, he's just patting it,
Speaker 1: patting it. And also everybody, if anybody can tell me,
Speaker 1: where to get Natalie Zimmerman's turquoise necklace. Sorry, one more
Speaker 1: fashion moment which I actually almost tried to google last night.
Speaker 1: The black sweater with the heart on the sleeves. These
Speaker 1: were popular then and I can't remember it, like the
Speaker 1: black Kashmir sweater hearts on the sea and then the
Speaker 1: design on the back. And if anybody knows who made
Speaker 1: that sweater, put it right here next to my Hello
Speaker 1: Kiddy alarm clock. And then I think the perfect uh
Speaker 1: exclamation point to put on this episode is to have
Speaker 1: that Smith song playing. Oh I didn't notice that because
Speaker 1: I was way too It was just okay, now we're
Speaker 1: in college and things are cool. Yeah, and this kid's
Speaker 1: listening to this and he's right right, yeah, Meat is
Speaker 1: Murder is like a great song. Yeah, it's just the
Speaker 1: line itself, and it was was like, fantastic way to
Speaker 1: end it. Um. I Also, I'll save this for popular culture,
Speaker 1: popular culture. Popular I don't know culture, but when we
Speaker 1: do pop culture. This week, I got a special treat
Speaker 1: for any Andy Gibb fans out there. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: just wait a couple of days. You're getting that people,
Speaker 1: All right, Look, I think universally we we love this episode. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it again just because it was so
Speaker 1: funny and so much fun. And I've I've found my
Speaker 1: my adoration and love for this show once again after
Speaker 1: a couple of rough episodes and and I'm I'm so happy,
Speaker 1: you know. So Anyway, all right, Um, we missed in Yelle.
Speaker 1: She's uh next, She'll be back next week, Tara, great job.
Speaker 1: Good seeing you guys. Amy, lovely seeing you, and I'll
Speaker 1: see you on popular culture as you call it. Look,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your for your messages, uh
Speaker 1: proer con. We appreciate it. It It shapes the show. You're
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