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Speaker 1: Real and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh.

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Speaker 1: These are some of our favorite segments from this week,

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Speaker 1: all edited together into one uh NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: a brilliant stand up comedian, writer, and actor who you

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Speaker 1: can find in the book We Had a Little Real

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Speaker 1: Estate Problem, the unheralded story of Native Americans and comedy.

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Speaker 1: She's been featured on Comedy Central, Team Coco Illuminatives. Five

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Speaker 1: Native American comedians to follow it is Jackie Kaligi. What's

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Speaker 1: h Hello? Hello? I'm so excited to be here with

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Speaker 1: the two of you. Were I saw your faith light

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Speaker 1: up when you mentioned everything everywhere. I loved that movie.

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Speaker 1: I saw it last weekend and it was so good

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Speaker 1: and I think it's okay. Well, first off, it was

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Speaker 1: like my first movie in a long ast time, like

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Speaker 1: being in a theater with people like there are people

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Speaker 1: is this safe? Yeah? No, I I was. I went

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Speaker 1: and being like, all right, it's gonna be worth the

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Speaker 1: COVID and I wasn't I wasn't wrong, you know, yeah

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Speaker 1: it was. And I thought I wasn't wrong because I

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Speaker 1: got COVID and I got COVID. Everyone hey, hey, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's also like a great experience to see a movie

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Speaker 1: it for a streaming. Oh no, you had to see

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Speaker 1: that in the theater for sure. Like there were moments.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I loved it. It was amazing. I cried,

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Speaker 1: forgot that that movies can invoke these emotions in you,

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Speaker 1: because like I think the last movie I saw in

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Speaker 1: I was just excited to see it, and I love,

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Speaker 1: like I've already just I did that wayman, I'm dressing

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Speaker 1: for the Fannie pack. I'm going to go search the

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Fannie really made me feel seen. Yeah. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: add with the Fannie pack. You can up with that.

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Speaker 1: See it's cool guys immediately. Yeah. But but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: getting overcome with emotion at things that aren't traditionally like

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Speaker 1: you could never really describe this film out loud, and

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Speaker 1: where he was chasing that for raccoon. Oh no, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: h J. Where are you coming to us from. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm here from Oakland, California. What's up? Shout out to

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Speaker 1: And it's great out here. We finally have decent weather.

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Speaker 1: We've been having rain lately, but I'm just excited that,

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Speaker 1: out here doing it. Hairy season catch just slides wait,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I mean I do,

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Speaker 1: why don't you explain it to them? Jack, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna slam your car. Make sure that sho a scraper. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now we're hitting the bay and taking a slide show.

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Speaker 1: Is when people like do donuts and stuff in the intersection.

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Speaker 1: M I must correct it as a side show. Side show, yes,

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Speaker 1: least you know other we'll be taking video. There's etiquette,

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Speaker 1: there's ways to carry oneself. So I didn't know that

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Speaker 1: there like regional super dangerous things to do with your

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Speaker 1: car like that? Oaklynn kind of owns that one. And

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Speaker 1: then like another part of the world with dirt bikes

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Speaker 1: and ship right right and the ghost riding was it that?

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Speaker 1: just how the American way is, whether that's you know,

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Speaker 1: to that and being like, yo, what do you really want?

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Speaker 1: I get as many black dolls as I can. And

422
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to for a while make little doll scenes.

423
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: So they're now. Um, like I made a little brunch

424
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: scene for some of them. There's like a little kitchen

425
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: scene where they're cooking, and then like there's a kid's scene,

426
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: and then like I got a Bill Clinton doll. He's

427
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: peeking in a branch. It's like it's sweeper cute. You

428
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: have a Bill Clinton fashion doll. Yeah, my neighbor gave

429
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: me like a Bill Clinton. It's supposed to talk, but

430
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: it's like sealed from the nineties, like no one's ever

431
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: like opened it, so it doesn't work anymore. But it

432
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: looks just like him, and it's like it's super funny

433
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: to have him just peeking in looking like, what are

434
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: you ladies happing from run It's super so um. With

435
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: the kitchen scene, I was making like, you know, pies

436
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: and you know, like easy to make little things. I

437
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 1: figured they needed a little bit of a more healthy situation,

438
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: So I figured, let me go get those Ronts candies

439
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: that we all had that perfect you know, that was

440
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: the perfect candy to do, you know, for dolls. They

441
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: don't sell rents anymore. You can't. You can't go to

442
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: a Target or to CBS or like a Walmart even

443
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: and get like a like a a box runs or

444
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: anything like that. You you have to buy it at Amazon,

445
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: like you have to look at up, like go to Amazon.

446
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: There are places that will sell you just a bag

447
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: of the bananas, but they don't. So runts are underrated

448
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: because like you really think that they're always going to

449
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: be there for you. You know, as a kid, you

450
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: always think that's the healthiest candy out there is shaped

451
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: like you know, like you always, I took it for granted,

452
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: and now that I can't get it now, I'm like, oh,

453
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: it tasted good too. It wasn't just a good display

454
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: candy for dolls. It was also a delicious the red ones,

455
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: the green the green ones were good. So that was

456
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: an underrated A question about runts and how they fit

457
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: into a miniature like escape that you're building. Because the

458
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: bananas feel like they're the right size. The orange looks

459
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: like an orange compared to the bananas. Um, and then

460
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: there's a giant purple I don't know if that's like

461
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's grape, but that would be the biggest

462
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: grape in the history of the world. Um, the big

463
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: purple balls. Um we're going we go on a eggplant

464
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: on that. Either that or um, I got a little

465
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: tray looking thing that I'm going to just put them

466
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: in as some kind of a casserole. M okay, that's

467
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: that's clever. I mean, couldn't you get in with the

468
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: fashion dolls? Like I know, like when I was a

469
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: kid in Japan, there were always little like miniature of

470
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: restaurant things made for people to super turn up their

471
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: scenes in Japan and bought a bunch of erasers that

472
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: are perfect size. Okay, they look like real food. I

473
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: got a Bento box, I got sushi, I got, I

474
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: got chips, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that

475
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. But I'm no need to go

476
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: get some more dolls because I got another scene planned,

477
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: right one. So okay, okay, okay, are those devil dogs

478
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton? Uh spying on your brunch? Devil dogs? Just cream?

479
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: I feel like having that, Like you can get so

480
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: comedic just by throwing up Bill Clinton doll in the

481
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: mix with a bunch of black women, you know what

482
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I don't know what, Yeah, like a

483
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: weird family Circus cartoon strip where it's like, you know,

484
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: girl black, like hey y'all, Hey sisters, y'all, you want

485
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: to help me get my red wet so I can

486
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 1: play sex. Saw me on our ciny ho right, like

487
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: Bill coming, Bill coming, Shut the funk up? And I

488
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: like it's a comic strip where it's these black women

489
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton is their roommate. Who they all, yeah,

490
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: exactly this done. This motherfucker got somewhere to go. It's like, well,

491
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: since Hillary left his ass, he's a fucking mess who

492
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: want to watch Living Single with me? Yeah? Exactly. I

493
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: mean sometimes I feel like I'm kind of Maxine Shaw, like,

494
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: all right, credit to you and the Maxine I guess, yeah,

495
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: laughing it. Honestly, I think I would watch a cartoon

496
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: about Bill Clinton inconveniencing a bunch of people because he's

497
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: their roommate and like deep grappling with the fact that

498
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: it's Bill Clinton. Is that what your miniatures project is? Hey,

499
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you some spec scripts for your miniatures.

500
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that you're working on a miniatures

501
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: project because I feel like we have, like the miniatures

502
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: projects we get are all like you know, Wes Anderson

503
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: or Wes Anderson light, Like there's a lot of that

504
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: tweet sensibility. I want. I want some new some new

505
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: brains in the miniature world. I gonna take some pictures

506
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: of them if it comes down with this living room one.

507
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: But I'm super excited. I'll just go and look at

508
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: it sometimes and be like, Yeah, they're so cute like that.

509
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, and I love that you're capturing a thing

510
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: from your childhood because that's so much about like it's

511
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: a weird dimension of our personalities. That we don't really

512
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: indulge as much as adults. Like we're like, man, I'm

513
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: off that ship. I don't really do that. And I

514
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: there's so many things like I've but I love doing

515
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: as a kid. I mean, sneakers is like the thing

516
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: that I couldn't afford as a kid that now I

517
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: have my own money, I'm like, well, now have you

518
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: seen my dog collection my sneakerne But even like with

519
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: other stuff, like like playing with like legos and ship,

520
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I need to buy some fucking Legos.

521
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: I fucking love Legos. I don't know the only reason

522
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm not playing with them is because I'm like, I've

523
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: told myself I'm too old. But every time I'm with

524
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: my nieces or nephews, I'm like, get the fucking legos

525
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: out and legos out and get out of my way. Yeah,

526
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: I wanted that piece. I'm like, you don't know what

527
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: you're doing with this. You can barely use the chechnic ship.

528
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: Bring that glue gun over here. Yeah, there's a like

529
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: when I when I lived in New York, there was

530
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: a museum exhibit that like came through Uh. That was

531
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: this woman Francis Glessner Lee have you heard of? She

532
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: like lived from eighteen seventy eight to nineteen sixty two,

533
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: and like was just obsessed with creating like murder scenes,

534
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: like recreating real murder scenes with miniatures. Like It's just

535
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: it was wild because it was like, oh, this is

536
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: just like somebody's weird obsession. But it just like kind

537
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: of comes in and out of relevance, and like some

538
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: people are just like really funk with it. Oh yeah, yeah,

539
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: I highly recommend if anybody has a chance to look

540
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: at you know, I'm just I fucking love. I think

541
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: reason too is I remember seeing model sets as a

542
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: kid and being so wild. I'm like, I'll never have

543
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: the patience to make a like a scene like this

544
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: using miniatures, but I love to look at it because

545
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: it's so clear like how difficult it is to make it.

546
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know there's an energetic exchange when you

547
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: look upon miniatures. Although I was terrible making dioramas and

548
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: that ship was terrible for me. That ship was terrible, terrible,

549
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: just trailing off. I think very specifically, I had to

550
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: make a like a representation of Giza in Egypt. I

551
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: fucking ripped up a shoe box in the middle of

552
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: it because my pyramids were not looking right. I fucking oh,

553
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: I like stole sand from the sandbox at my school

554
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm gonna glue that to the bottom

555
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: because it's a desert. Didn't know you know how to

556
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: properly put sand in a fucking dioramas to just look

557
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: like dusty and ship. And I'm sorry this, Let's take

558
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: a let's take a break. It'll it'll sound like just

559
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: a brief break to the listener. It'll probably be about

560
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: a half hour while we worked through this with Miles uh.

561
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: And then when we come back, we're gonna talk about truckers.

562
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: And I didn't have my mom help me. That's the

563
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: fucking difference. These other motherfucker's came in with the glue

564
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: gun ship. There's no glue gun trail, motherfucker glue gun

565
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: fucking liars. Follow the glue gun, follow the straight to

566
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: your mother's bedroom. It's funny. My mom would always say

567
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: that because when I ripped mine up, I was in tears.

568
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: She's like, but that's good. All these other American children,

569
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: they rely on their parents to do their work, and

570
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: you're doing it on your own. I was like, but

571
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: you can't help. But I was like, mom, you help

572
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: me put my stickers and she's like, you will not

573
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: be weak like these other motherfucker's. I'm like, my parents,

574
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: my friends never did projects for me. Hell no, that

575
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: was fucking that was so foreign to me. When I

576
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: saw somebody they were like, yeah, my mom help me

577
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: do the Like I know, your mom fucking help you.

578
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: Just so clear that somebody had nothing to do. Help

579
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: you do this ship with adult hands? Yeah, this dude did.

580
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: His dad did his whole thing. He did a fiber

581
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: optics thing and he's a giant tube. He didn't even

582
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: really know how it worked. He was just like, oh,

583
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: you shine a light on this end and then you'll

584
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: see a light on the other end. And I was like, yeah,

585
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: that's how light works. And then you couldn't even really

586
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: see the light. I was just like, what is this?

587
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, just standing next to him. Let

588
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: stand next to him with a flashlight, be like. I

589
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 1: just did the same ship and it was a lot easier.

590
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: See you can see the light right, and I'm just

591
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: turning on and on. He couldn't even say what it was.

592
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: It's like, what is your problem? Fiber optics. You know

593
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: it's real quick, Yeah, speaker, go ahead, go ahead, Elon,

594
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: let him know. Everyone's in your pockets to them, motherfucker,

595
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: come up off them emeralds real quick. Helping your projects

596
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: and ship paying for a snack before school with emeralds, Like,

597
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: do you have changed for an emerald? Change for an emerald?

598
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: Someone needs to do a project on like boy genius

599
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, and he's just a rich kid who just

600
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: like pushes people around with emeralds. All right, I think

601
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be incumbent on every comedian

602
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: to have a pet project that try to get you

603
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: banned from Twitter because you're coming straight for Elon Musk's neck.

604
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: All right. Well, we've been back for like five minutes now,

605
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: but we have not talked. We have not yet started

606
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: talking about the number one story of the day. Um,

607
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the trucker convoy has decided to liberate Oakland, and Oakland

608
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: said get the funk out of here. They said, do

609
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: you know where the fuck you are? Um? So the

610
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: trucker convoy, I didn't know that they had continued to

611
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: convoy it up because they were just like, al right,

612
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: that was an L and D C. Let's just head back,

613
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: drove across not much going on, And now they're back

614
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: in California because it started in California and then picked

615
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: up all of the detritus along the way to d C.

616
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: And now they're back and you know, proven once again

617
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: that American self victimization is one of the saddest sites

618
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: to behold. And they've made okay, So now they're in California.

619
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: They got a new tactic. It's because there's not no

620
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: real vaccine mandates and shipped to push back on. So

621
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: now it's just stuff like driving to politicians houses and

622
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: honking their horns because they don't agree with someone who

623
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: thinks Americans deserve body autonomy. So they're like, yeah, that's good,

624
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: that's a winning project. This person wants to make contraception

625
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: available to people. Fuck yeah, let's just go to their neighborhood.

626
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: So what happens is on Friday, they were taking a

627
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: little trip there through the Bay Area and they decided

628
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: to go to Oakland, okay um. And I guess they

629
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: never heard of Oakland or the Bay Area because they

630
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: drew there. They drove through there with the fucking energy

631
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: of liberators, like they were like waving out the car

632
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: with like they're like, you can take the mask off, hooray,

633
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: And people were like flicking them off, screaming shit I've

634
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: never even heard before. And they found out very quickly

635
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: they were in fact driving through the Oakland Berkeley border. Okay,

636
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I can't think of a blue er fucking spot to

637
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: be uh in California than the border of Oakland and Berkeley. Uh.

638
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: And they drive through. Look, this is the other thing, right,

639
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: like the Bay Area. I thought like conservatives knew better,

640
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was more door to them where

641
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: they're like, we cannot go in there, fun, we can't

642
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: go in there fucking lacking, because these people do not

643
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: want to hear what the funk we have to say.

644
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: In fact, it's the antithesis of everything we believe. So

645
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: as they creep through the streets, they were met with

646
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: a ton of eggs being thrown, and like clockwork, it

647
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: seemed like shopkeepers just came out with like flats of

648
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: eggs too, like people on street and like yeah, man,

649
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: go ahead, I got some eggs. Go ahead, fuck do

650
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: your thing with these trucks up and then like some

651
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: kind of epic Game of Throne scene, then like like

652
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of people showed up out of nowhere, like

653
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: as I call it, the King's Battalion of angry zoomer

654
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: kids showed up like like just throwing their fucking eggs

655
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: and turn it up another notch. And I just want

656
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: to I want to play this one clip right because

657
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: there was this one old guy who clearly has never

658
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: been around teens or teens of color for that matter,

659
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: who just got out of school, because that's an energy.

660
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: Look as a millennial, I'm like, now, these kids are

661
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: gonna fuck roast me if I say some ship. I

662
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: don't eve wanna make icons like I'm not ready for

663
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: their their wit their witticisms. This guy fucking taunted them

664
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: to throw an egg, and guess what the kids did.

665
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: They obliged. Here, I'll play the audio just so you

666
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: can see, uh, just the intensity of this just fantastic

667
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: moment in disbelief that these kids is rocked them with

668
00:35:49,880 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: an egg, Like he gets out there, what are you

669
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: gonna do? Seventy teenagers? And he gets back in his

670
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: mud soaked truck and then he's like, you're the coward.

671
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: So did you get the laughter of those children? The

672
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: laughter of like I don't respect you or anything. You

673
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: feel it in your soul and the the like the

674
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: responses from the truckers, it really reveals like this savior

675
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: behavior mentality, that there's victimization, just like like this was

676
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: this was our nine eleven. They called the police. They

677
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: called the police, you know, they they there's this h

678
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: image that you pulled of them, like talking about it

679
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: on what is it on? I think it's from their

680
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: telegram channel Telegram Okay, damn, the needs to tell them

681
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: they'll be allowed back on Twitter. So but they're saying,

682
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 1: how was it that the flats of eggs just happened

683
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: to be How convenient was it that the flats of

684
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: eggs just happened to be there? Like they think there

685
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: is a conspiracy that involves people laying out flats of

686
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: eggs rising those bricks in their type, except except that

687
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: one seemed a little bit more. But I like, there's

688
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: not an active construction site here. Looks like you left

689
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot of play toys for angry people to work with. Yeah,

690
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: that's that is the nerve of like things that if

691
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: anyone was doing that, they were trying to protect you

692
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: from getting the ship kicked out of you. By like

693
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: giving them something more fun to throw at you that

694
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: they're just like brewing your fucking paint jup. You would

695
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: get off easy with those eggs. This is Berkeley. You

696
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: could get throw a wayward kamboocha bottle and those are

697
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: not easy to catch exactly. What if somebody hits with

698
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: their hydro flask. That's a fucking brick right there. And

699
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: you're not really going into like Oakland, Oakland. You're lucky

700
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: you were on the border of Berkeley. Okay, Um, But yeah,

701
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: it's just like the other things that we're saying that

702
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: people were saying, like uh uh that can't we put

703
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: these people like can send them off to China? Like

704
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: send these leftists offt to China? Other person, This boils

705
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: my blood that these people aren't worth even being saved.

706
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: It's a shame that they hold normal Californians hostage to

707
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: this culture. These people are literally insane. Some should be

708
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: charged with as salt. But the lame d A s

709
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything anyway. Uh huh, nobody asked you to

710
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: come here. We're doing fine. These strange people who don't

711
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: like people driving down their streets with massive trucks blaring

712
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: their horns at all hours and saying you basically to you. Yeah,

713
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: they didn't like that, Yeah, saying that we don't think

714
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: you should be able to, you know, have what you

715
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: want or have bodily autonomy. That's yeah, what is wrong

716
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: with those people? I don't know. And again this is

717
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: like they said, they called the cops, and the cops said,

718
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: we don't give it. They're like, alrighty deal with them.

719
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: They basically we're like, we're not coming out there, so

720
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be there. Yeah, right there, Like

721
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you do know about our rep even like

722
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: we barely go out for anything, so we would help

723
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: you right now. No, we're good. We've been claiming we

724
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: were defunded since before Convoy man man cuts both ways.

725
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: That's a twitty part, you know what I mean. So

726
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: eat them eggs, eat them up. Yeah, let's talk. You know,

727
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: I think the consensus among the people I fall on

728
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Twitter is that we're fucked now the Delon Musk has

729
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: purchased successfully purchased Twitter. Um and what what what are

730
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: we hearing from? I mean I think we kind of are,

731
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: but like, what how are other people reacting with? Uh?

732
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: There's I mean there's all kinds of I think everyone, yeah,

733
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: rightly is focused on this guy who's keeps talking about

734
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: freedom of speech, who clearly doesn't know what the fun

735
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: that means, has bought the bird app and what does

736
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: that mean? Um, there's a few different things. There's this

737
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: one piece by this like sort of like tech critic

738
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: Shiva Vadia nothing in Slate, who's just talking about like

739
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: who sort of brings up an interesting point of like

740
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: Twitter as a business is not a good opportunity, Like

741
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: that's not something you want to buy, like as a

742
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: as an investment in general. Um. And you know, look

743
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: just talking about how as a business it has been

744
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: like just pretty much they've they haven't figured out how

745
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: to make it profitable or to scale it, you know,

746
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: the many wonderful world's words of Wall Street, and they

747
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: put it up for sale a few times, and people

748
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: haven't really ever bought it. And I think that just

749
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: when obviously there is this whole element of yes, Ellen

750
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: could bring all the unsavory ship bags back and open

751
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: up the gates. Um. But there's just just narrowly there

752
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: is one potential benefit to that, which is all of

753
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: that conservative tech money that was spent on those free

754
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: speech platforms like truth and Ship, it would become a

755
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: fucking would become moot the second he opened up the gates,

756
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: because that's what the whole reason people all the people

757
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: like that fled to those other sites or like there's

758
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: no lives here. So if they're allowed back on Twitter,

759
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: they're like why am I using this ship again? Um?

760
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: So that would potentially that that that is a one

761
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: fear on like the conservative tech side, which is like,

762
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: man if Trump comes back and this, that's gonna be

763
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: bad news for these smaller apps. But that's not even

764
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: like the big picture is there is there are are

765
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: any of those flourishing and like really a threat to

766
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you hear about horrible things being

767
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: said on them, but I don't. I don't know, like

768
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: is there no not in this sense like you know,

769
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: especially we've talked about truth Social like that this thing

770
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: is dead in the water. Um and even til they're

771
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: still waiting to be let in the door, many people

772
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: you're not getting in that club. Um. But again like

773
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: sort of put just looking at Twitter though just as

774
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: like a business end, you know what exactly is Elon

775
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: must trying to do it? Does he actually wanted to

776
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: help to grow it or does he want it to

777
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: be profitable because the purpose of buying it, Like, well,

778
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: I think on one side it's like, yeah, I guess

779
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: you literally own the libs by buying Twitter or something.

780
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: But what you know, as a business person, because you're

781
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: always talking about your business acumen, like what is the

782
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: goal here? Now? I get that one version is he

783
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: just doesn't give a funk he wants he'll let it

784
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: melt down into a total cess pit of like hate,

785
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: you know, hate speech. Um. But on the other side

786
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: of that is like is it growth? Is it profitability?

787
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Because the things that he has talked about aren't necessarily

788
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: going to reshape the app or bring more people in.

789
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: Like yeah, the edit button. Sure, people are like, oh

790
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: that would be cool. That's like a bone free one

791
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: for like the people who are on Twitter. But that's

792
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: going to take a lot of time and effort to

793
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: actually bring that to you know, bring that to a reality.

794
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: The human authentication thing to keep bots off. Sure, but

795
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: many points to the fact that you know, you could

796
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: just invest more improper content and user moderate ration and

797
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, keep things moving in that sense. But I

798
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: think the other thing is that he's if he's you know,

799
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: by buying it and takes a private he's not beholden

800
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: to shareholders at all. So, like a lot of people

801
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: are trying to speculate, what how do you game this out?

802
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Like is it going to be just a downward spiral?

803
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: Is it going to be you open it up, you

804
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: bring all these angry people away. Are angry people back

805
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: on the platform, which would drive away other users, which

806
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: isn't going to help anything for like the value of Twitter.

807
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: So I think really we can like even even in

808
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: the worst case where you know, Trump's back and all

809
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: these other things are happening, those would be like those

810
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily benefit Twitter in the end, I think, because

811
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: they're also not really innovating as a platform. You know,

812
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Twitter is not even the top ten social media platforms.

813
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: There's there, you know, there's the fully the potential for

814
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: something else to come up that people like, oh, this

815
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: seems more reasonable now than this other thing. So it's

816
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: a bit of like a wait and see thing. And

817
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: then on the on the DC side of it, you

818
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: have a Republicans say it would be bad if if

819
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Trump got back on or like oh, I don't know

820
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: if if we need Trump back on or that could

821
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: be bad. But again, I think that there's a twofold

822
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: problem there. One is that they don't want Trump back

823
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: because it would complete he would revitalize his like stranglehold

824
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: on the party by him being back on Twitter, he

825
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: would take over the political conversation again. Um. And then

826
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: the also thing is that they they fear that if

827
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: he's back on that helps Democrats do their really tired

828
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: as political strategy, which is just gesture to Trump and

829
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: then be like, so y'all vote in blue, right and right.

830
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: It ends there because without Trump they've done so much

831
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: so um, well, I think they're I think they realized

832
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: they can't get bullied in real time from Twitter like

833
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: he used to like. As things are happening, I think

834
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: it's more for them. They liked that they didn't have

835
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: to fear the Trump tweet anymore. Yeah, time interested to

836
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: see what I mean. In a couple of things like

837
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: how many people left the platform, I know every everybody

838
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: was losing followers. I lost I think two fifty followers,

839
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: and I think people are just running from it, but

840
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: they don't know what's going to happen. And then I'm

841
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: also I feel like it's like this weird thing where

842
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: if Trump. I feel like people are always weird about

843
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: trumping on Twitter, where it's almost like they they're like,

844
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: oh man, that would be so terrible at that big

845
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: bad guy that I used to quote retweet came back,

846
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like and I kept going

847
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: viral because I was talking on Trump. I feel like

848
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that energy too, like they

849
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: don't nobody wants it, especially before nobody fucking wants Trump

850
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: online talking his ship. But I think that there's this

851
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: weird energy that was there when Trump was president and

852
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: when he was on Twitter of like it's kind of

853
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of exciting and spicy and like let's just

854
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: play with this toxic ship. But it's like that's not

855
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: good because all it ever did was elevate the trash

856
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: to a higher level. Yeah, I mean, I think the

857
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: real the real losses would be to like people who

858
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: organize on Twitter and actually use it for like positive things.

859
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: But I think like anything an alternative could emerge that

860
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: is easy to that could be as easy to use.

861
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you know again you read

862
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: the headlines, you think this could be this is scary

863
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: and yeah it could be, but it's gonna take some

864
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: time to fully understand what his vision is for this

865
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: and how that works. Because he's also he's gonna find

866
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: himself running Twitter in the lead up to a presidential election,

867
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: and Elon Musk is in just inherent like all it's

868
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna take her some more spicy Marjorie Taylor Green type

869
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: people to pop up, and then what does he do

870
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: with them? And now people are going to connect him

871
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: to all that, whether or not he wants to platform

872
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: them or d platform them. So there's a lot of

873
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: extra ship connected to it that like doesn't necessarily make

874
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Elon Musk just look like the coolest kid on Twitter.

875
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm like definitely not. I mean, think

876
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: about how much people bullied Jack. They were like Jack,

877
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: what are you doing? It's like that same thing, like

878
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: you really want to be that guy. That's kind certainly

879
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: like having to decide if you're gonna pull people or

880
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: let them be on and how far you're gonna let

881
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: people go before they just like even if he's not

882
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: the one making the final decision, he's he becomes the

883
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: de factor, the face. Yeah, yeah, I don't think he

884
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: gives a funk though he and I also I think

885
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: he's a combination of like, you know, realizing that all

886
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: good publicity in America's like at least increases your footprint, um,

887
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: and also famous enough that like he's surrounded by people

888
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: who are gassing him up all the time. Yeah. So

889
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: I just think he's very dangerous. Probably part of his

890
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: strategy is to control like discourse in some way the

891
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: way that like, you know, billionaires during the Barren era

892
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: like would do that. Ship. Um. Yeah, I think I

893
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: think the concerns are founded. I still feel like you

894
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: can still use Twitter right to like coordinator to organize,

895
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't feel it like what it

896
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: should be as a public utility, and like we're moving

897
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: away from that obviously, and that's fucked up. But like that,

898
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: like I feel like it's not great for our side

899
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: or for people who are trying to do good in

900
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: the world. If like a billionaire buys all phone networks

901
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: across the America and they're like, well, I just don't

902
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: use the phone anymore, and it's like, well, we're putting

903
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: ourselves at a disadvantage, like we just need to you know,

904
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: keep well. Yeah, And I think for the people who

905
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: need that, who are resilient, this isn't gonna do much

906
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: because they see the utility of it and you can

907
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: just block the funk out everybody, you know what I mean? Um,

908
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: And maybe that's how people will get on with it

909
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: and it will continue to you know, do its thing

910
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: in the Musk era. Yeah. Yeah, there's just it's it's

911
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: it's going to be very very interesting because there's so many.

912
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: There's so many because like you're saying, because Twitter has

913
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: become sort of like the this utility, you know, way,

914
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: but it's still not even the top ten user basis

915
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: of like social media. Platner has this very interesting place,

916
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: uh and seeing what he does, whether good or bad tbd.

917
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: But again a billionaire buying it never good never again?

918
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: Can you guys explain the edit button to me? Like that?

919
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't fully understand the because like my my understanding

920
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: is that the reason you use that a button is

921
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: if you have a tweet up a lot of people

922
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: like it, and then you realize like you want to

923
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: change something about it, and then you edit the tweet

924
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: like their likes are ascribed to like something that isn't accurate, right,

925
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: Like that's that feels weird, like what like you can't

926
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: you can edit what you said, just delete the previous

927
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: thing and then rere pushed your tweet. Or it's like

928
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: that thing, oh I misspelled, I misspelled said in my

929
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: viral tweet. It makes me crazy though, so I'm all

930
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: about the it. But for that exactly, it's like a

931
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: small reason because I had a tweet go viral where

932
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: I said like, choke uh, but I didn't mean to

933
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: say the US, so it sounds like I'm saying like

934
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: choke like Italian choker when I choke up, and I

935
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: was like god damn. And I kept just like watching

936
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: it and I was like, oh, I want to take

937
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: it out. So I would like to edit that, but

938
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: it is. Have you ever there's a TikTok that I

939
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: saw where it was like, keep talking about TikTok, but

940
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what, sometimes I get bored with the TikTok um.

941
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: There's a TikTok though that I saw where somebody was

942
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: like texting their friend and they asked a question. I said, like,

943
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: are you white? And as the person was responding the

944
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: person the other person said, if you are, then you

945
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: like you say that you hate black people and love

946
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: slavery and then the person said yes, and then you

947
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: know they responded like immediately like it's just that it

948
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: is that thing of like where you can change what

949
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: you've said, and then the person who liked it is

950
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: seemingly vouching for like some crazy shit. So yeah, I

951
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of control. But I don't know if

952
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 1: people are. I don't know. We could. We have to see,

953
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: I guess. But for me, it's just I want to

954
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: take a little extra letter out of a tweet, right, yeah, yeah,

955
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: exactly wholesale, be like yeah, yeah, I get somebody to

956
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: like something. Then like you know, rope a dopom into

957
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: being like okay, so you okay. So is he is

958
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: he like team edit button? Is he? Yeah? Yeah, he

959
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: wants an edit button because he was campaigning on that.

960
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: That's that's the saddest part of his whole like, because

961
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: he's just like I just feel like if I just

962
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: got the tweet just right, people would like me. It's

963
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: like a buddy, we hate you because you are you know,

964
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: unethically wealthy and racist. That's that's our main thing. It's

965
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: not because you uh funked up a tweet. I for

966
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: one love Little Emerald Boy, and I would be honored

967
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: to work with him. M hmm. Interesting. That is the

968
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: the number of places I've just you know, being out

969
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: in public, I've had Ela Must quoted me still boggles

970
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: my mind, Like Ela Must quoted me as if like

971
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: socrate cheese and said some ship he Musk once said,

972
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: it's all these like strivers like rise and grind people.

973
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: But it's such a because he has his rep is different,

974
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: you know Twitter. He people don't like him on Twitter.

975
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: Off Twitter, it's a whole other thing. It's like to like,

976
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious of what his supporters think about that, because yeah,

977
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: there's people driving around in tesla's and I've seen a

978
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: license wate that said Love Musk on the back and

979
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, these people are like all

980
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: in damn meant animal Musk. Love Musk like he could

981
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: he could run for president and do pretty well at

982
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: some point in the future. He wasn't. He's not He's

983
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: not an American, so he can't. Oh yeah, that's right,

984
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: that's right. Did you see that somebody said he was

985
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: an African American just to stir the pot because he's

986
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: in Africa. Wasn't it a black woman? I said, come on, black,

987
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: I thought she was white. I saw one where as

988
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: a black woman. People are like, hold on now, like

989
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: is this an avatar switch up? Like what what is

990
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: happening here? That's but crazy? Yeah, no thanks, They're like,

991
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: and I think someone above was like, oh do you

992
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: not know about apartheid or and don't worry about that.

993
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come

994
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: back and talk MPR and we're back. Um yeah, So,

995
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: like I said, I was, I was just trying a

996
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: line between the elm musk and this rush of frame

997
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: up because I do feel like a lot of this

998
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: sensibility um of yeah, we don't have to like try

999
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: to be convincing in our lie. We just like say

1000
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: the lie and then stick with it and it doesn't matter.

1001
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Like kind of started in in Russia and like first,

1002
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, trum Trump obviously was like the number one

1003
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: proprietor in America of it. But um, this one, I mean,

1004
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: we've people been people been doing this one for for

1005
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: a while. I'd say, the weapons of mass destruction man,

1006
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: we're good, yeah, yellow cake man. But eventually they were like,

1007
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: we didn't find any yea yeah, um yeah, So Russia's

1008
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Federal Security Service FSB arrested a group of six Russian

1009
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: what they're claiming are neo Nazis who are plotting to

1010
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: assassinate a Russian state TV talk show host. Um and yeah.

1011
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: Things just like seemed really fishy right off the bat,

1012
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: starting with the fact that the supposed target of the

1013
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: of their plot was this um state Russian state TV, like,

1014
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: you know host presenter person who has said has praised

1015
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: Hitler as a very brave man and even produced an

1016
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: admiring documentary about Mussolini. So yeah, because you know that's

1017
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: we we always just like stick fore those to our

1018
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: computer speakers. Um. They also had three copies of the

1019
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: Game of the Sims um and and people were like,

1020
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: what the fund is that doing there? That's so weird.

1021
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: It's like three three like discs of the SIMS portrait

1022
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: of a portrait of Hitler, sas to go to mind

1023
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: comp and three copies of the SIMS expansion packs. So

1024
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: the working theory is that someone, uh, you know, did

1025
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: fabricate this evidence. And we're told they were told to

1026
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: get three SIMS as in three SIMS cards and SIM

1027
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: cards and they fucking missed the subtlety and when when

1028
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federal Asian later posted

1029
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: a video of the raid, they had blurred out the

1030
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: sims um the yeah because it's it's like so it

1031
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: really does like it's like the commander wasn't there, right,

1032
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: He's texting everybody, look, get get a Swaska T shirt,

1033
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: get some like ss patches, put up a picture hitler.

1034
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: The three sims do all that, you know, make it

1035
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: look real shady, right, and then he just goes and

1036
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: like takes a picture. And the guy's like, mother, He's like,

1037
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: what the fund is that? What? What are those three

1038
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: games on the bed? And he's like three sims? Like

1039
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: because it really doesn't mean like it's put out there

1040
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: as if it's like you have to take a picture

1041
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: of this. This is relevant to the case, you know

1042
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like he took it's like he said,

1043
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: and they had five soup ladles, you know what I mean, Like,

1044
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: that's not relevant. It's in the house, But why put

1045
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: that ship there. It's clear that the person's directive was

1046
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: take all the pictures, including the three sims to uh

1047
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: for for who? For what? Again? I think this is

1048
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: all like you're saying, the low energy effort to just say,

1049
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: you see, there's neo Nazis in Ukraine and they're coming

1050
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: after people in Russia and that's what all of this

1051
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: is about. That's why we're there. Because we put out

1052
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: a swastika T shirt really loosely taped photo of Hitler

1053
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: to a Bluetooth speaker and three copies of the sense

1054
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: um and then the target quote of the of the attack,

1055
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: who's just like their wolf blitzerer, like some you know

1056
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: TV person, except if people still like watched CNN. But

1057
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: he went on TV and claimed the plot was all

1058
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: hatched by Zalinski. Um because Zelinsky wanted to be a

1059
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: presenter on the state run channel but wasn't talented enough.

1060
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: We're doing the old Donald Trump thing. Haters. They were

1061
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: begging me for a job and then I said no.

1062
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: So that's where they like, OK, that's I mean, So

1063
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty pretty questionable child logic at work there.

1064
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: It would seem, um so like he was doing it

1065
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: because he hates me, and uh he's like what he

1066
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: he actually is on the record saying he wished he

1067
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: was as handsome as me. So um, yeah, I have

1068
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: some I have some texts where he's like asking me

1069
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: for pointers, like on how to look like me. But

1070
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: I like, I was like, I was like, seriously, dude,

1071
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: we're like in a war, Like I can't do this

1072
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: right now. Um, but yeah, tough times, tough times. Um

1073
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: all right. I I just wanted to continue complaining about

1074
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: MPR um for for because we didn't get all the

1075
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: way through the story. Uh. Super producer Tricia did a

1076
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: bunch of really good research along with super producer Becca

1077
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: on just like, um, you know where where this so bridget?

1078
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: Like basically my point is like I listened to NPR

1079
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: for the first time in a year and just found

1080
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: the tone, which is I don't think it's changed, but

1081
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: it just feels insane to me. Like it feels very

1082
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: like gentle, but like they're talking about like gentle mixed

1083
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: with like board and whatever. And so then like the

1084
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: Russians came in and you know, they're reporting on war crimes,

1085
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: but they're doing it in like a way that's like

1086
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: just feels so strange and basically feels like if we

1087
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: if we were all hearing it again for the first time,

1088
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: we would all be like, what the funk is happening

1089
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: right now. UM, So we talked about that and like

1090
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: some psychoanalysis on like neoliberals, like why this might be

1091
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: might be happening, might be necessary for them right now? Um.

1092
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: You know, super producer Tricia like did a deep dive

1093
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: into like sort of the history of just basically what

1094
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: I've heard described as like TV English. UM. But it's

1095
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: like sort of the um accent lists is how it's

1096
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: often described English that people speak with on UM TV.

1097
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: But then you know, say, calling something accentless just uh,

1098
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, positioned yourself as thinking that a certain access,

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01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: a certain way of speaking American English doesn't have an accent. Basically, Um,

1100
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: the presumed audience is an English monolingual speaker. UM. And

1101
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: when the voice and language of the speaker this is

1102
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read directly from what Trichu wrote, when

1103
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: the voice and language of the speaker is intended to

1104
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: not make the listener uncomfortable. The placidity of the MPR

1105
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: voice also feeds into this. Like the rest of the media,

1106
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: they want listeners to feel a certain amount of fear,

1107
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: which will push them to keep listening and not uh

1108
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: and not be too uncomfortable or panic that will make

1109
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: them feel like they're also experiencing the crisis. Um, so

1110
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: they you know, they choose to speak like a group

1111
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: of people who aren't affected by the crises. Uh, they are,

1112
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: but they still like want to talk about it. And

1113
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: the accent emulates people who like don't suffer the human

1114
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: rights crises that and wars and disasters that NPR reports on,

1115
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: and like, she found examples of people who were prohibited

1116
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: from or just like their story wasn't accepted to on

1117
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: NPR because they were told that they speak too much

1118
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: with too much of an accent. Um. Hear that a

1119
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: lot a lot of people hear that a lot, Like

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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: some level, you know, it's like, yeah, what what is

1121
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: that voice? Exactly? I don't know if it's I mean,

1122
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: at this point, it feels like this thing where it

1123
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: naturally evolved right where I get that. There's just you know,

1124
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: like in the radio announcer days, people all spoke like

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: this and what the funk is that? And then we

1126
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: literally got into something a little less like you know,

1127
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: good evening, rather here is the weather for today. I

1128
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: sound like David Lynch doing the weather. Um. But you know,

1129
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: even now it's like then we had this like I

1130
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: think really coming in and like the out of the

1131
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: eighties and into the nineties, like the real MPR voice

1132
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: that I feel like, like as a kid, I was like,

1133
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: oh wow, that's the nice talk radio or whatever that's

1134
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: less animated, and it's it's weird, Like I'm not sure

1135
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: if they even know they're doing it, you know, and

1136
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: I know that they do on some level because it's

1137
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: part of the aesthetic. But if it's like about to say,

1138
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: like so to the points like we have to speak

1139
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: like this in order to get people to fucking tune in,

1140
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of it's just a function of

1141
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, that way of looking at things. Yeah, I

1142
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: think I think it's interesting, not not necessarily as like

1143
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: a critique of NPR, like going in and we're going

1144
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: to catch them being like you have to talk to

1145
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: them like children, because like you know, and even if

1146
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: they are saying that like that's um. I think it's

1147
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: interesting about what it reveals about the listeners of NPR

1148
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: more than anything. Yeah, I think that the listeners of NPR.

1149
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're on the left and

1150
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: you're where you're getting your audio news and commentaries NPR.

1151
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: I do feel like that probably suggests that you're a

1152
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: certain kind of person, because there's so many different places

1153
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: to get, you know, news and commentary in the audio format.

1154
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: If you're if you're if you're sticking with NPR, I

1155
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: feel like perhaps you know you're looking for a certain

1156
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: kind of tone. I guess, um, it's so funny that

1157
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about this. When I first started working as

1158
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: a podcaster and an end an audio, I thought that

1159
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: I had to do that voice to be taken seriously.

1160
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: When I go back and listen to the early days

1161
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: of me on podcasts, I can tell that I'm sort

1162
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: of I'm doing my NPR voice. You know, it's very monotone.

1163
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: You would think that I am talking about things happening

1164
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: in a country where I have never even visited, as

1165
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: opposed to my own country. I'm talking about things that

1166
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: I have no real opinion on. Here's just some very

1167
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: gently delivered information about what could be happening somewhere hypothetically,

1168
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: you know. And so I think that there was a

1169
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: time where NPR and I, yeah, no shade to MPR,

1170
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: but there was a time where I think that they

1171
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: really were influential and how other people did radio and

1172
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: did audio and did podcasting. I will say, yeah, for sure,

1173
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: I think that's something. You know, when producer Anna and

1174
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: I were like first starting the l A How Stuff

1175
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: Works Offices, like we talked about like we wanted to

1176
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: steer away from the NPR aesthetic because it was so pervasive,

1177
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: Like it was just like, so that's what people thought

1178
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: podcasts sounded like for for a long time. Um, but

1179
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: that's so interesting describing it as like even though you

1180
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: were describing America, you felt pressure to like describe it

1181
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: like it was a country where you've never been. Because

1182
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: that really like that was kind of what we had

1183
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: landed on yesterday. Is that like by doing this and

1184
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: like adding this tone of um of like removed, Like

1185
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: I keep saying, it's like feels like they're on xan

1186
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: X because they like feel like they're like removed from

1187
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: the anxiety, uh that you know, the rest of the

1188
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: that they're talking about, like an anxious an anxiety provoking situation. Uh,

1189
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: they're describing it like with the humanity and the emotion

1190
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: removed from it, and it's yeah, it just feels like

1191
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: that has to be at some level a conscious decision

1192
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: um that they're like, uh, perpetuating because they just have

1193
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: seen it work, and I think they see it work

1194
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: so well because is they're the NPR listener wants wants

1195
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: to have be told about the story, like be told

1196
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: about the problem, but then like not feel bad about it.

1197
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: You can't confront you can't confront the actual uncomfortable nous

1198
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: of the story. That's all it is. It's it's too

1199
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: it's to tell you enough about the story without informing

1200
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: you enough that you can actually begin to empathize. Really,

1201
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. It it really dules

1202
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: your ability to connect with the people that are even

1203
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: being talked about in the story. Like even that one

1204
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: where the woman was talking about she was fleeing like artillery,

1205
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: like shelling from Russians and she fled to her basement

1206
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: and was like, well, thank god she had a little

1207
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: bit of food. But it's just done. It's like like

1208
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: we were saying, and you know we're hearing her. You

1209
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: can hear in her voice she's like she you can

1210
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: tell I don't speak Ukrainian, but you can tell this

1211
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: person isn't speaking calmly about the situation they were in.

1212
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: But the translator's voices, and it not that it has

1213
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: to be an acted out version, but it comes in

1214
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: more like, thank god I had potatoes and some extra

1215
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: oil in the house, and also I had a cow,

1216
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: so I was able to get milk. And you're like

1217
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: that was electrifying compared to the to the translator, but

1218
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: like and even like you know, you go on NPRS

1219
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: page right now, there's there's stuff where there's a headline

1220
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: says why this economy maybe sturdier than it looks. When

1221
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: I say, okay, maybe this has something to do with

1222
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: the lived experience of people who are working in the

1223
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: like as part of the economy, and maybe there's some

1224
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: good news. All it's about his g d P and ship.

1225
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: The word wage only shows up once, and it's not

1226
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: even and it's like it's it's a quote about someone

1227
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: talking about like she also increased her prices to offset

1228
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: rising costs of cotton, polyester, and spandex, as well as

1229
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 1: higher wages for her employees. So now the empathy isn't

1230
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,959
Speaker 1: about there's no there's no need to feel bad about

1231
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: anyone in this story or even to tell people like

1232
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: in this version, the word wages as mentioned in the

1233
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: context that like, man, people where people asking for too

1234
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: much money? Huh yeah, not despite this, the lived experience

1235
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: of your neighbors might be completely different to some of

1236
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: these headlines about the economy. And I think that's where

1237
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: because that's the uncomfortable part if you're going to talk

1238
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: about the economy, like is it going to be a

1239
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: real thing of Like we spoke to working parents, single parents,

1240
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: people who live here, people who live there about what

1241
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: just what even though we're seeing this economy stuff, what's

1242
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: it like for them? And even if when when you

1243
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: get pieces like that, are we going to get the

1244
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: like is it going to get to the point where

1245
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,919
Speaker 1: someone would listen to it and then be outraged? Right? Yeah?

1246
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: And I think I mean, I have to mention we

1247
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: are seeing this interesting moment where NPR seems to be

1248
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: kind of hemorrhaging young talent of color, like young audio talent.

1249
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: And I have to wonder if there's something related there

1250
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: that you know, people want. I feel like people get

1251
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: into audio journalism because there's an intimacy to the storytelling.

1252
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: You can hear, you know, listening to that Ukrainian and

1253
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: tell her story even if you don't speak the language.

1254
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: You can hear it in her voice, and I think

1255
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: that's what that's what draws people to audio storytelling in

1256
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: the first place. And I think if you're someplace where

1257
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: the entire vibe is not reflecting that humanity, that intimacy,

1258
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: that authenticity and that like truth through audio, it does

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Speaker 1: seem to be like a little bit of a disconnect. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like we were you know, I was saying yesterday,

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Speaker 1: like you can mint a bitcoin with the amount of

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Speaker 1: like mental work and like pretzeling of themselves that is

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Speaker 1: required to achieve the cognitive dissonance required to still be

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Speaker 1: on board with like the mainstream media and like d

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Speaker 1: n C sort of narratives where like check on the

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Speaker 1: g d P every month because that's the thing that matters,

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Speaker 1: and we just like care about g d P and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I just think that's that's coming

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Speaker 1: out in in this weird uh. And then I also

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about so j am I, a writer

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Speaker 1: from Canada, says the same thing is happening on the

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Speaker 1: CBC and has always been happening on the CBC um

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Speaker 1: but he has an alternative explanation that they like found

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Speaker 1: out about. Uh. HSMR or a SMR and are are

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Speaker 1: like because they like keep doing stories about like they've

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Speaker 1: done a lot of stories about as m R. And

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Speaker 1: like it does seem to be his theory is they're

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Speaker 1: like ramping it up because they were like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: like this this makes people feel good. Oh yeah, morning

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Speaker 1: a morning becomes a colectic On k c RW, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in the middle of yawning the

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Speaker 1: whole time I'm listening to it, Like the music is right,

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Speaker 1: but like they're like, Milvina, what's going on this weekend?

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, actually, I think, Getty, there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a fantastic display of West African art. And You're like,

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Speaker 1: huh huh, huh, it's not it's I get it. It's

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Speaker 1: it's soothing. But I do find myself, you know, in

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Speaker 1: a trance to hearing it, but not even that I'm

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Speaker 1: here like listening, it's like, oh, it's just very like

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Speaker 1: the it's that that monotone that really I don't know

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Speaker 1: it gets you. Do you all remember that Saturday Night

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Speaker 1: Live bit um the Delicious yea, yeah. So that's the

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Speaker 1: thing is that I don't know if at that time,

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Speaker 1: like they was some of their shows spoke like this,

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Speaker 1: and it was the ones about like you know, wine

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Speaker 1: and leaves and like foliage and ship, and then they

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Speaker 1: had more more appropriate tone, like when talking about news

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Speaker 1: and war crimes. But now the whole thing is it's

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Speaker 1: like listening to those characters do the news about the

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Speaker 1: Russian invasion of Ukraine, mm hmm um, And it's very weird.

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Speaker 1: It's very strange. Well, you know again, I think the

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Speaker 1: effective thing about you know, uh, neoliberalism and these news

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Speaker 1: things that are they're helping people kind of stay in

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: this place is that it helps people not stay in

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Speaker 1: a place of comfort and not really want to do

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Speaker 1: anything radical or or or have the mindset that there's

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Speaker 1: a need for radical change, that's for sure. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's the same thing like even with the uprisings, right,

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Speaker 1: we've barely heard people from that were in the streets

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Speaker 1: talking on TV. If ever, And if it was like

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Speaker 1: find the angriest motherfucker you can find and put them

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Speaker 1: on TV, don't don't get the people who are really

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Speaker 1: there trying to say something, And we would always be like,

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Speaker 1: why are they never talking to the people that are

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Speaker 1: in the streets. It's always like somebody from like fifty

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Speaker 1: feet away, a hundred feet away, like and now that

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Speaker 1: you can see their gathering over here now and blah blah,

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Speaker 1: like doing it like they're calling a fucking horse race

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Speaker 1: or some ship. But we're not. You're not doing us

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Speaker 1: the service of hearing the people who decided to enter

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Speaker 1: physical space why they are there really, rather than your

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Speaker 1: commentary from a hundred thousand feed away and speculating and

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Speaker 1: then basing, you know, being able to shape the entire

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Speaker 1: narrative from there, rather than hearing it from people's mouth. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that goes back to who is listening. As

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Speaker 1: I said earlier, I think if you're in two, if

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Speaker 1: you're getting your commentary and your news and your news

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Speaker 1: from MPR, I think that you're not looking for anything radical.

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Speaker 1: I think that you're not looking to be moved into

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Speaker 1: action or feeling discomfort or feeling bad or feeling complicit,

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Speaker 1: you know, heaven forbid. I think that if you're not

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Speaker 1: and not again, not to disparage NPR listeners. I listen

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Speaker 1: to some of their programming. My parents. I grew up

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Speaker 1: on public radio, you know, not to disparage them, but

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Speaker 1: I think that what you're describing is perhaps not someone

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Speaker 1: who is looking for that kind of you know, those

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Speaker 1: kinds of feelings from their their commentary or their news.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking to feel engaged in that way. I

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Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah. So anyways, Zeke Gang, if you if

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Speaker 1: you feel the same way, if you hear like an

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Speaker 1: NPR clip that has particularly egregious, hit me up. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep thinking about this and I'd love

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Speaker 1: to you know, get get more evidence or you know,

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Speaker 1: more more thoughts on it. So so hit me up.

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01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: You know what, maybe Jack, we might have to do

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Speaker 1: an episode in that voice, just to see how the

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Speaker 1: audience responds, and we'll say Hello the Internet, Hello, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Dirt Dailies like Geist. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: actually quit for somebody who just likes it so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: Please like and review the show. If you like the show,

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation. Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. By Sa