1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast falls Asleep to the Bonkers Sacks. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another addition to the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands, and I'm joined by a 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: room with some heroes, Chris Wessling and Marcess. What up boys? 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: How you doing? Greg Rosenthal has some boss matters to 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: attend to. He may he may show up, We don't 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: know during the show. He he might storm in, he 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: might not at all. So we're just gonna plow on 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: without him and hopefully make him proud. We just want 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: to do right by your pa. Boss matters typically includes 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: a three figured priced lunch somewhere. From what I understand, 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: is that what it's like? I guess. So he's always 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: shrouded in mystery, eating expensive meals somewhere. Okay, Ridge behind 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: the glass? How are you? What's up? Guys? I'm great? 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: What's what's how's life? Life is good? You know I'm 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: working on something very big for our show coming up. 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Can you give us any hints? Um? You know, I 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: would love to so much, I don't. I don't like 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: giving away hints. Then you'll guess. You guys are educated men, 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: and I want listeners to have something to look forward 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: to alright, alright, that's fair, that's fair. And there's someone 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: behind you. Who's behind you? Welcome in Zach Goldman, Say hi, 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: za Zach. What is Zach doing there? Is he? Is 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: he just staring at you? Is there something nefarious going on? 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: This guy? You know, he's he's learning all about the 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: A T L because he loves this podcast so much. 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: I mean, is there a better place to learn about 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: the world of podcasting and communications than this high level outfit? 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: The world in general really see a bunch of absurd people. Okay, 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: so we have we have a big show today and 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the the centerpiece of the show, 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna hold it to the end because that's 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: again professional podcast. You put the heat in the back 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: end and make people stick around. Whin West's Toaster is back. 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: It sounded like there's always a little like less impressive 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: than I wanted to be. It's so it's always like, 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: and I'm the voice of win West's tester, so that 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of on me. It's like when it sounds 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: a little tired, it sounds beat. It sounds like why 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: am I doing this? Throw it into a volcano or something. 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: It's a guy falling to his death doing voice over work. Yes, 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: we're doing win West's toaster. West is looking to take 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: down Sham. It is the matchup of the century. Mark. 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Mark actually has goose bumps. I can tell from here. No, 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: it's uh. I mean the fact that we had to 46 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: wait this long for this rematch good programming in a way, 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: but it's like waiting for mad Men. It's like, come 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: on already. That's what happens when you have Donald King 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: running when West's toaster. Um exactly. Um. Also we have 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk. We got a fork to stick. We're 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: running out of stick of sticking a fork stick a 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: fork in him. I have to put him other one off, 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: Mark Shelf, Yeah, we might have to. We're gonna talk 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: to Thursday night game. We're gonna do a little preview. 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the biggest personal disappointment of of 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: the season so far for all of us. Yeah. Actually 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: we were talking about the show before I accidentally said 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: biggest personal regret, which would have went down a very 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: dark road for all of us. I'm sure I have 60 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: a few terrible, searing regrets. Yeah, Mark, you actually signed 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: all your tweets hashtag no regrets, So I do that 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: and blessed um. But we will start as we always 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: do on Wednesday with k Rich, the beautiful k Rich 64 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: with the headlines. Ok alright, guys, coming up number one. 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys remember that kid Cousins. Kirk Cousins 66 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: last season played pretty well in r G three spot. 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: He is going to start for the Washington Redskins this 68 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: week and RG three will be inactive. Well, I think 69 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: k Ridge painted that in a very cheery fashion. It's 70 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: sort of an odd turn of events in Washington, and 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I think that how did this happen? I know, but 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: exactly is happening in d C? How did r G 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: three just get scratched and eliminated from the final quarter 74 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: of the season or whatever or close to it, because 75 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: he is not hurt. I don't wes he's healthy. According 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: to everybody associated with the Redskins, this is without precedent. 77 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: John Madden today, who is basically a walking football historian, 78 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: he said he's never even heard of benching a player 79 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: who's perfectly healthy, just sitting him out and saying he 80 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: caught it ridiculous. It's a ridiculous idea that you would 81 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: bench up your franchise quarterback who has no health issues. 82 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: And that's said. I feel like Shanahan, who on Monday 83 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: sort of struggled through his press conference, kind of controlled 84 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: the room. He did, and I thought that, uh, not 85 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: enough reporters were dubious of his answers. I didn't believe 86 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: a word of it. If he's not if he's healthy 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: enough to play the first three thirteen games, if you 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: can risk him, then why what's so different about the 89 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: last three games? Well, and Shanahan said that he it 90 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a man out in an island, just you know, 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: pulling levers, that he as far as a week ago 92 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: went and spoke with Daniel Snyder and that they came 93 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: to this agreement together. It just it's hard to unpack 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: what's happening here because again, there's no indication r G 95 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: three has not been playing well. Obviously, and yeah, he 96 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: wasn't healthy earlier in the year, but that doesn't seem 97 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: to be the issue right now. And let's let's also say, yes, unbalanced, 98 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: he has not been playing well, especially this past week, 99 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: although the game got away from the Redskins and all facets, 100 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: not just the quarterback play, but he's had he's had 101 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: games where he's played great. I mean, he's obviously not 102 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: what he was last year, but he didn't to me, 103 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't showing anything like, oh, you need to get 104 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: this guy off the field because he's he's a threat 105 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: to himself. At no point did Shanahan say this was 106 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: about competitive reasons. It was only because an injury would 107 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: devastate used the word devastate r G three's career because 108 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: he wouldn't he would have a second strade offseason where 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: he couldn't participate. And like I said, I don't know 110 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: why it's different this week than it was last week. 111 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: It seems arbitrary to me that you would just decide 112 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: that a guy at this point he's taken too many hits. 113 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems odd. What else is in 114 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: the news? Carriage? Alright, guys. Packers head coach Mike McCarthy 115 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: announced that Aarona Rodgers did practice in a limited fashion, 116 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: but he's still not medically cleared. Here's another not quite 117 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: as uh, you know, pulp NOVELI mystery, But this is 118 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: this is kind of interesting. What's happening here is he 119 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: actually potentially took first team reps today? As well. I 120 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: so I wrote a post on what McCarthy said in 121 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: the press conference, which really emphasized, look, he did some 122 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: work today, but he has not been cleared. Let's kind 123 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: of let's hold our expectations down. And then I start 124 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: getting what I am from West showing me that Andrew 125 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Corlis the tight end, is telling another reporter later, no, no, no, 126 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: he played with the first team, and I guess they're 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: testing him to see where is threshold his But that 128 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: was new news. He came out yesterday and said last 129 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: week when he practiced, he had to shut it down 130 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: because he was in pain, which is a concern because 131 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: three weeks ago he said the there is no more 132 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: pain left. It's only about waiting for the scan to 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: say the fracture is healed. So what they're doing today, 134 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I presume, is seeing if there's pain this week because 135 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: there was last week, and if he gets through that, 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: maybe he has a chance to play. But even then 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: they have to they have to make sure the scan. Okay, 138 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was eye opening that he did come 139 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: out on Tuesday and say that he was still having 140 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: pain last week, which now tells you first it felt 141 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: like the situation was this guy is ready to go, 142 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: but the organ organization is wisely you know, they're they're 143 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: taking all the precautions they can because as he is 144 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: the franchise now, all of a sudden, it's like, wait, 145 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: he's not even physically right. And if if he doesn't 146 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: play this week, and I don't know, I still think 147 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: it would be surprising if he did play this week 148 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: after what he said on Tuesday. If he doesn't play 149 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: this weekend they do lose, then I'm personally would be 150 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: on board with shutting him down because if he isn't 151 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: right physically now, next, a week from now or two 152 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: weeks from now, it's still too close to when he 153 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: wasn't feeling right, And what's the point if they're out 154 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: of the mix well and real quick. Ian Rappaport, a 155 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: team source, told him that the Packers don't expect him 156 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: to be cleared and they don't expect him to play. 157 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: They expect Flynn to start. But last week, at this 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: time when we were going through this, they hadn't even 159 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: scheduled a scan between now and Sunday. So we need 160 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: to know that there's a scan schedule and he's gonna 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: have to pass that anything else in the news Okay, rich, Yeah, shot. 162 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 1: Town head coach Mark Trustman says the Bears are optimistic 163 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: about j Cutler's return at QB heat in the News today. 164 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: There is no controversy in Chicago because Trustman handled this 165 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: pretty well. He stayed on point with his message, and 166 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: it seems Jake Cutler has the support of his locker room, 167 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: or at least the support of the most vocal member 168 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: of locker room, Brandon Marshall. McCown has played well, you 169 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: can make a strong argument that theyre they have a 170 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: better chance to win with him at quarterback. It's funny 171 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like there was a time, probably before 172 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: I even latched onto football to some degree, where years ago, 173 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, like where the where the job of the 174 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: backup was to do exactly what McCown has done. Come in, 175 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: keep the offense going, and when the starters ready, there's 176 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: no question he'd come back. But not today, right. It's like, 177 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: especially with the future of Cutler, there is some issue. 178 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: This team is hanging in there for the pluffs. If 179 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: Cutler comes in and he doesn't play well and they 180 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: drop a game, there's gonna be issues. Yeah, I agree 181 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: with that. Then it will become a controversy. But I 182 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: think you hit the nail on the head. What's different 183 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: about this case is is Cutler's future, which is we've 184 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: heard from our NFL media insiders that the Bears don't 185 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: want to use the franchise tag. They're probably willing to 186 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: let Cutler walk. It seems that they may just signed 187 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: McCown to a cheap deal in draft a quarterback. So 188 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: if if Color isn't your guy for the future, why 189 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: is he your guy for the president as well as 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: McCown has played. That's fair. Thank you, k rich Hey. 191 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: Speaking of r G three, this got me thinking and 192 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: I want to throw to you guys, um biggest personal 193 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:27,239 Speaker 1: disappointment of the season, And for me, it's a no brainer. 194 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: For me, it is what's happened with Robert Griffin the 195 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: third um he is. I'm not a big college guy, 196 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: but Griffin is one guy that actually followed at college 197 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: because he went to Baylor, where is where my wife went, 198 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: and I would go I would go to Texas near 199 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: Labor Day and that everyone would be talking about this 200 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: guy would watch games and then he came into the 201 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: league and just tore the league up as a rookie, 202 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: and it seemed to me at the time, and I 203 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: remember saying, and I wrote about it last year before 204 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: the knee injury, that he was the face of the 205 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: NFL of the future, like he was going to take 206 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: that torch from Brady potentially. And what what has happened 207 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: now is almost the worst case scenario. He blew out 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: the knee in January. The absolute worst case scenario is 209 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: that that was a career ending injury. The second worst 210 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: case scenario is what is played out, which is um 211 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: he came back too soon, he didn't play well. He 212 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: caught a lot of criticism now that he got tangled 213 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: in this bizarre situation where he's getting shut down and 214 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: he's now lost all career momentum to the point where 215 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: now he has to start over. Uh. As we know, 216 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: he'll be healthy in the off season program and then 217 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: go into a training camp with questions around him and 218 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff most likely, and he'll be a 219 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: guy that has answers, our questions to answer. That could 220 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: be a motivation for him, because all of a sudden 221 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: he has doubters that he maybe didn't have before the 222 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: knee injury when he went on fire but at the 223 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: same time, it's really disappointing to see that his career 224 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: has went from such a high point to this complete 225 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: mess that he's in right now. I think you said 226 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: it well. The thing sticks out to me is the 227 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: part you said about he could become kind of the 228 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: NFL's face. He could reap Ads. Brady is that guy, 229 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: and he's developed a reputation now is sort of a diva, 230 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: and it seems that some of that is well deserved. 231 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: Now he's only twenty three years old. We can't really 232 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: kill him for it yet, but he he might have 233 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: to repair that image a little bit. He might have 234 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: to tone it down a little bit, not try to 235 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: be playing uh Marionette behind the scenes with with the owner. 236 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: But I think there are some similarities to Cam Newton 237 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: where he's struggling into second year and rebuild himself in 238 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: his third. And I think to me, the big thing 239 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: with him on the field is playing without that knee brace. 240 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he can be the same quarterback as 241 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: long as he's wearing that brace. It's funny because I 242 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: gotta tweet um today. Actually a few probably two months ago, 243 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: and I know this is probably happened to you guys too. Um. 244 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,239 Speaker 1: You'll tweet something, um, a bit of criticism towards a team, 245 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: and then something the season goes along, and then a 246 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: fan from that team will throw that tweet back at you. 247 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: And it was after a particularly grim RAMS game, and 248 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: I believe a Thursday night where they had really bad 249 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: quarterback play and I had tweeted at the time just 250 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: a reminder, RAMS fans, you could have had r G 251 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: three something like that, and then a Ramsaying came back 252 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: at me and this is fair play. He came back 253 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: at me and said, how how do you still feel 254 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: this way now or something? And I wrote back, yeah, 255 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: I still do. I'm not writing r G three off. 256 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: I still would probably rather have an r G three 257 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: with question marks and Sam Bradford. But at the same time, 258 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: it's not so clear anymore. So I'll throw it to you. 259 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Mark your biggest disappointment, I think for me, you know, 260 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: you look at what's happened in Philadelphia with this offense 261 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: and the fact that uh, offensive Cording or Pat Shermer 262 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: just hasn't gotten the credit deserved for his work, and 263 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: that off alright, not that one, that's not that's not 264 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't feel the way, No, myke, I listened. My thing. 265 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: My biggest disappointment is and I am actually was actually 266 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: in for a second there. I know you were, and 267 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: I think you were. The wheels were spinning on your 268 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: head there, damn. But now I feel that Pat Shermer 269 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: has gotten the credit that he deserves, and that is 270 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: very little. Um. All right, how about a real answer, 271 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: A one for me and I'll you know a turning point. 272 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: I should call you mirth Sessler. No, I don't think so, 273 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: let's steer away from that. Uh. Brown's fan obviously, And 274 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: for me, there was a this moment of hope when Hoyer, 275 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer came in and I thought, did something that 276 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: a few quarterbacks for Cleveland's done in a long time, 277 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: show a quick release, quick decision making, not an epic disaster, 278 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: and look, this is some hope. This guy's moving the 279 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: team and they have a good defense already. Then suddenly, uh, 280 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: the night they're playing the Bills on Thursday night, I 281 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: get I get to texts. The first is from my 282 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: wife who says that my car has been hit, so 283 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I had to leave my viewing station and go viewing station. 284 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Let's clarify what that means well, I was no. I 285 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: wandered into a local pub to watch because I wasn't work. 286 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: It was technically it was technically correct. And so I 287 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: rush off on foot to go find like where she 288 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: is with the car and everything. And as so I'm 289 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: coming back, Dan texts me to say, oh, Hoyer is 290 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: down and it does not look good. And I thought, 291 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: you know what, season over, baby, And it has been 292 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: from a quarterback angle, that was that was a bummer 293 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: because it did seem it was that home crowd on 294 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: a Thursday night and who knows that Brian Hoyer and 295 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: West is shaking his head work or a one man 296 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: factory of sand hold on in the scope of Brown's 297 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: quarterback play. And I'm not annoint Toy fair enough. It's 298 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: it's so you personify the Brown's experience that your most 299 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: disappointing moment of the year involves Brian Hoyer. From a 300 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Browns fan angle, I think that that right. It just 301 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: I think it speaks volumes about what it means to 302 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: be a Browns fan that your biggest disappointment involves a 303 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: guy who the rest of the league didn't want. All right, West, Well, 304 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: what's your biggest disappointment. My biggest disappointment is the Houston Texans, 305 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: who I thought we're a oh wait a second, into 306 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: the room comes the man they call the Boss. Now 307 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: wh is in the house. I know, but isn't really 308 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: okay for him to just walk in and out with everyone. 309 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: It's absolutely all right, he controls all the well. I 310 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: heard there was a there was a rumor that when 311 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: West's toaster is gonna be parts coming up part of 312 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: this show, a robust segment, and so I just thought 313 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: I would make a stand and not be part of 314 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: the show on the day that that was on, because 315 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: it's a travesty. It's the game should have been over already. 316 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: There was complicated award, you know, there was prizes. I 317 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: don't know what was going on last time, but it 318 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,239 Speaker 1: should have been over, and so I don't support it, 319 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: like Tomlin, Like Sideline episode, the scoreboard says I won 320 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: the game. All right, let's stay on point. Sorry. I 321 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: really was reporting some news from our ultimate boss, Roger 322 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: Goodell downstairs. Ro I wouldn't I wouldn't miss this for 323 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: the world. Um, Greg getting your think tech can come 324 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: up with your biggest disappointment? First West, you tell us 325 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: yours this season. Biggest disappointment, not regret, My biggest biggest 326 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: disappointment is the Houston Texans, who I thought be a 327 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: contender for the Super Bowl in the a f C. 328 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: I thought they had a talented roster, the best defensive 329 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: player in football, great running game, DeAndre Hopkins, was gonna 330 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: come in and add to the offense. Ben Tate, what's 331 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna be healthy? And this was gonna be a team 332 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: that just steam roll through. Well they steam rolled through 333 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: two Wait a minute, hold on, how can you call 334 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: that a disappointment because you wouldn't have an earth your 335 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: man crush case Keenum had they not stumbled as hard 336 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: as they did. Kate, my man crushed. You know that 337 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: was like six weeks of bliss. Now, well that's about 338 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: how long most man crushes probably, right, advanced metrics, I'll 339 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: throw like a stat out for you guys. Texans are 340 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: on an eleven game losing streak. Did you find that 341 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: on football? Dug it up? Dug it up? Go on? 342 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's yeah. They they started off the season, 343 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: they had to come back for two victories. They outplayed 344 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: some great teams and still lost the game. They're just 345 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: they're a factory of dead last. The Houston Texans on 346 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Elliott Harrison's groundbreaking power rankings that come out each and 347 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: every week, dead Last to Houston Tech. How about the 348 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: Houston radio station that aggressively pursued Dan to right. Dan 349 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: calls him an eight and eight team, which you know, 350 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: you didn't call him a two and fourteen team, and 351 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: they just acted like, oh, you know, this guy's a 352 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: little bit of an amateur football analyst, was gonna have 353 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: some fun with him. How about a little love here 354 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: for Dan. I didn't have him in the playoffs either, 355 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: but Dan adam A and A and he took the heat. 356 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: And we like to pick on Dan for all the 357 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: terrible predictions, but he nailed this one. The Texans also 358 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: the Falcons going thirteen and three, but you know wherever. 359 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: But really, it's like I said that soccer was the 360 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: best sport in Texas, like the the way that the 361 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: reaction was pretty pretty um out there. But yeah, so 362 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: that that was a bummer. Greg. How about you. The 363 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: biggest disappointment, Well, I'll tell you what's not my biggest disappointment. 364 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: The Redskins falling flat on their face. I enjoy that 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: quite a bit. Uh, I don't know why. I just 366 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: had to throw that in. There's the shadowy league figure 367 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: watching you in the corner and be careful. The Steelers 368 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: are my biggest disappointment. I thought they would be in 369 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship. I thought Ben Roethlisberger had 370 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: a chance to have an m v P season. That's 371 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: in writing. He's played pretty well. Actually, there's a there's 372 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: an article out there on Sports on Earth by Mike Tanier, 373 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: who's a great writer, who said, who actually called Ben 374 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger the m v P of lost causes at quarterback? 375 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: He went through different positions, so he's supporting the m 376 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: v P if only you've had added that cave lost 377 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: causes to the end of your pay just straight up best. 378 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: They haven't had two losing seasons in a row since 379 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: I believe Oh, believe me, I can tell you that's true, right, 380 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. I thought it's a good coach. I think 381 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: they've been able to put together the roster. Everything I 382 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: knew about Dick leboas falling apart. Troy Plo, Malo and 383 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Clark are one of the worst safety groups in 384 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: the league. Warren SAP's prophetic words old and slow. Was 385 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna say we should give Warren Sapps some credit here. 386 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: When Daniel Thomas and Ryan Tannehill and Charles Clay are 387 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: all breaking off forty five yard runs through your secondary, 388 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: that's big, big Clay. I might give my biggest disappointment 389 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: just to their defense. So there he goes. The Steelers 390 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: defense was a good one. I have one more disappointment. 391 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: But I am not Eric Decker. Why you find him handsome, 392 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: don't you? I'm not that I'm not him. Dan is 393 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: referred many times to how handsome he is. You have 394 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: a wonderful wife of your own. Yeah, the wife department. 395 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: I think your wife's way hotter than Eric Decker's wife. 396 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: Thanks West. Potentially we're gonna have to take out of 397 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: the all day party mix potentially for that. But you know, 398 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: mixed alcohol with West's affection for sweet Emily, who knows 399 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: what happens, it all goes off the rails. That could 400 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: be a new podcast. I can end up tied to 401 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: the train tracks by midnight that night. Now, that would 402 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: be potentially disastrous for your personal life, but it would 403 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: be great for the podcast ratings. I mean a little drama. 404 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: Potentially you need something to talk about in February. All right, 405 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: all right, let's move on to the podcast. Speaking of 406 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: the Steelers, here lies the Pittsburgh Steelers, who gave a 407 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: firm rodgering to the benefit of the doubt the around 408 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: the league team gave them all season. Is there any 409 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: doubt the big Ben Todd Hally relationship will end in 410 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: a dateline episode? Why would a man murderer is coach? 411 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: That's my Keith Morrison. Well, Greg, I'll let you start 412 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: this one because I know you have personal ties to 413 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers. As we just spoke about, little known fact, 414 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: there was some debate whether we should even fork the 415 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: Steelers this week. Chris Wesleyan still held out some hope. 416 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler seemed like he had a little bit of doubt. 417 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: But I convinced them, even though I've been rooting for 418 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers this year, that they're done. Why did why 419 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: did you doubt it? Still? It has really nothing to 420 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: do with the Steelers and everything to do with the 421 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: Dolphins and Ravens. The Steers have eight losses. Yes, act 422 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: like we're being brave here, Well, yeah, I'm not. I 423 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: as I've been saying for the past month, I think 424 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: the a f C final spot will be won by 425 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: an eight and eight team, So if the Steelers win 426 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: their final three, a lot rides on whether Aaron Rodgers 427 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: plays next week in Green Bay against the Steelers. I 428 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: don't I would be happily forked the Steelers in next 429 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: circle and eight when team could get in. But it's 430 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna be really hard for the Steelers to beat the 431 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: be that eight team win eight team team because they 432 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: lost to the Dolphins. Yes, yeah, it's and they split 433 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: with the Ravens, so their record against those two teams 434 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna be one and two. By Football Outsiders playoff odds, 435 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers dropped from to one percent after the loss 436 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. You're banking on Miami losing out in 437 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers win, you know. So it doesn't seem that 438 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: all that unreleased doesn't But that's that's what would have 439 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: to happen. And spinning forward, this is a team, it's 440 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: it's the defense that we were talking about earlier that 441 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: they need to be focusing on to get back to 442 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: the playoffs potentially next year. I want to know, is 443 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: Dick Lebo going to be back? Is Mike Tomlin for 444 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: sure going to be back? Well, we in the news 445 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: room yesterday we played before or After Monty Kiffin's birth 446 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: a new game show that we like to play. And 447 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Dick Lebo was born two years before Monty Kiffin. He's 448 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: seventy six years old. The one's just a better coach? Yes, 449 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: what was the best one before? Born? Before or after? 450 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor? Well? I got a stumped Andrew Siciliano on 451 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: before after Frank Sinatra joined Tommy Dorsey's band. What is 452 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: this Steelers defense really have to get excited about? Because 453 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: all their young draft picks like Cameron hay these guys 454 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: that they were hoping would step up really haven't stepped 455 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you two names. Casey Hayward has played well 456 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: for about the past five or six weeks in Jason Worlds. 457 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: Ever since they moved him from outside linebacker to left 458 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: outside linebacker in the past four weeks, has played great. 459 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Isn't he? I think he's a free agent? Yeah, just 460 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: get some money. Well, hasn't this front office been uh 461 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: lifted up and hoisted up for years as this perfectly sensible, 462 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: great decision making outfit that actually hasn't drafted very well, 463 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: not lately the last three years. That kind of reminiscent 464 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: of A. J. Smith with the Chargers, where he was 465 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: considered one of the best drafters in the NFL, and 466 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: then he went on a three or four year run 467 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: where he just struck out left and right. And that's 468 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: what the Steelers have done. They've drafted horribly. I mean, 469 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: Nike Taylor's way past his prime. I don't think he's 470 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: gonna be back. Paula Malo, Ryan Clark, is Jarvis Jones 471 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: even getting on the field right now, not much what's 472 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: support Whatley has been injured, so he's playing a little bit, 473 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: but I don't think he'd be playing of Woodley was healthy. 474 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: But they like to bring their draft picks along slowly, 475 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: but that isn't all. Some of these guys are being 476 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: brought along slowly. Levian Bell looks pretty good, David de 477 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: Castro looks pretty good. It's not like they're totally di 478 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: way to talent. I think there's there's at least a 479 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: little bit of question whether Ben Roethlisberger is going to 480 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: be available. I don't think at this point there is, 481 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: but that would be foundation rocking right our next our 482 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: next meeting of the four Committee. We have to at 483 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: some point figure out an endgame when when we stop 484 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: forking teams because we can't take it to week seventeen, 485 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: it becomes farce. So we'll figure that out. We'll maybe 486 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: talk about it on the next pot. There's only one 487 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: more week in between, so I guess that leaves us 488 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: first week al right, next week the final forking week. 489 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: So get excited and all your teams that you know 490 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: haven't been forked yet. You're not out of the woods yet. 491 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: And I know that leads to a lot of fear 492 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: in trepidation, but don't be fearful. You know what. We're 493 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: gonna have a written this week that you can check 494 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: out on around the League on NFL dot com, just 495 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: updating in case you forgot all the teams that we 496 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: forked so far. So get that ready printed out and 497 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: give it to your kids for Christmas. Okay, real quick, 498 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: before that would be bad, really well, but when we 499 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: get to win West's toaster, let's do one more topic. 500 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Thursday night game. Uh. This is 501 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers heading to Mile Hi to face 502 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Uh. The game has has relevance for both 503 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: teams and charges basically at the win to have any 504 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: shot at the playoffs. Still, Broncos are looking to lock 505 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: up home field advantage. This to me feels like a 506 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: blowout forty to fifty Burger. Uh, the Charges have ranked 507 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: defense going into Denver in prime time doesn't feel right. 508 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Someone want to explain to me or sell me on 509 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: how this could be a game that goes into the 510 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarters. Contencitive Broncos have the rank. I could see 511 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: this being a high scoring shootout. That isn't I could 512 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: see this being close fifty burger and a forty burger. 513 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a lot of fun. 514 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: That Broncos secondary does not look very good lately, and 515 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: I think Philip Rivers, after a little bit of a lulls, 516 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: played fantastic the last couple of weeks, and he could 517 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: put up forty points in Denver, China. Stay with Peyton 518 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: why not. By the end of last week's game, the 519 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Broncos were playing without six orders on defense. They had 520 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: benched Wesley Woodyard, who was basically Pro Bowl caliber caliber 521 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: last year, bench Duca and Nacho who looked great early 522 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: in the season, and the four guys injured there. This 523 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: is not a good defense right now. I'm also really 524 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: excited to see Peyton Manning against arguably the worst defense 525 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: in the entire league. I have to admit this Peyton 526 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: Manning season, Wesselene has been all about it. It's been 527 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: excited from the beginning. Mark seems to like it. You 528 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: like offense, it's average. I mean, what the Broncos season offense? Offense? Sure, well, 529 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: it's half the game. It's It's left me. It's left 530 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: me a little cold when I watched him. I don't 531 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't get that excited by these nine yard passes 532 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: and it's all present. What about the last two weeks, 533 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting to baby, the last two weeks 534 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: Peyton mann is dropping bombs on people. Everything is down 535 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: the field, unbelievable throws. I swear he's made more insane 536 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: throws in the last two weeks that he made the 537 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: whole rest of the season. I think it's been his 538 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: best two games of the year, and it gets me 539 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: a little excited. It sounds like it. Wes Welker by 540 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: the way out with a concussion, So we'll see if 541 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: that takes a little windo out of the cells. I 542 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: don't think it does. I think, well, there has been 543 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: a great addition, but I don't think he's But he's 544 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: not the reason why this team is more on this 545 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: off Jacob Tannemy is gonna step right in and not 546 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: play second tight end. He will play slot and receiver 547 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: for them. He lined up I think, on forty five 548 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: straight snaps in the slot after Welker left last week. 549 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: And don't overlook this running game. Over the last four weeks, 550 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: the Broncos have one hundred more rushing yards and every 551 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: other a FC team in the league monte Ball coming 552 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: in great compliment to no Sean Marino. This offense is 553 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: clicking on all cylinders no matter who they throw out there. 554 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I was young and I would play 555 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: like Madden seasons. I know for Dan that was like 556 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: a year ago. But I would you do? You'd have 557 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: you couch some dominant team through like a schedule. I 558 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: mean I gave up on video games a while ago. 559 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: I believe my senses you played video games more recently. 560 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: Is that not really? But go ahead? Nice dig? Okay, 561 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: well did he and you're alienating like half the people 562 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: that lived. I don't. I'm not. I just simple, probably 563 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: even more dangerous habits. But I would recommend you pick 564 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: up the Genesis by Sega and I'll do that angle thing. Ang, 565 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to your Genesis records. I guess I look 566 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: at the Broncos the way that I played that like 567 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: a Madden season where you're so dominant that you can say, 568 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, for the next two weeks, I'm just gonna 569 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: work on my running game. Oh and this week I'll 570 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: work on this. Is that way I just worked on 571 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: certain aspect You're you're dominating teams so heavily that old 572 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: Mark I play on the easy level. Sessler wasn't have 573 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: to work on my running games. Yeah, Mark's like, really 574 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: gotta work on my run blocking. This have anything power? 575 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Did you? Sure? Marks? Theory that he had a lot 576 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: of girlfriends in high school just went out the window. Well, 577 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm try ever said a lot. I had some. Here's 578 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: some in this room. Here's how old Mark and I are. 579 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: There was no man and when we were in high 580 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: school it was Super super Bowl. Well there was yes, 581 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: techmo bled into Madden. Are we off the whales yet? Here? 582 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: So you're saying, all right, Mark, to get back at 583 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: your point, So you're saying that they're so good that 584 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: they're just kind of trying different things out at this 585 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: point waiting for I think, listen, you're able to do 586 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: what you do, and then listen for two weeks. We're 587 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: gonna focus on an aggressive, more downfield passing game. By 588 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna get our running game going in 589 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: the middle of this. You take one person out of 590 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: the mix, doesn't change the middle. Bizarre concept. Just deciding 591 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: to score forty to fifty points every it is pretty interesting. 592 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: It makes them really impossible to defend. Now that they 593 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: can do this. For most of this season, I thought 594 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: they could get picked off, but after watching those two games, 595 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: now I don't know. I think so. All right, Greg, 596 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: so you know what's the next segment? Right? Wait, we're 597 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: really yeah, this is it. It's time. We're gonna give 598 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: you an option before we begin. Either stay or you 599 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: can go and take care of some administration administrative work. 600 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: It's up to you. I'm gonna go and thank you 601 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: for your support. I'm gonna also try to stick a 602 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: fork in this segment. This is it, just win. Let's 603 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: rig it, Crystal. Let someone on the phone. I'm feeling 604 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: pretty confident today. Alright, bad luck to your goodbye. Greg. Alright, 605 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: all this stuff that we've been talking about today. It 606 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, None of it really matters. The only reason 607 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm here, the only reason I came into work today 608 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: on my off day, was another addition of America's favorite game. 609 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, this is a very special 610 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: win West's toaster because we all remember what happened the 611 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: last time we played about a month ago, high level controversy, 612 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: one of the most controversial things to ever happen in 613 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: the world, when sham Um eight Loyal, a t L 614 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: listener UH seemed to defeat West by one question and then, 615 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: as it turned out, the question, which was about who 616 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: had the longest active consecutive game streak, um My research 617 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: team led by Lyle the Intern, had come up with 618 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: Eli Manning when the answer was Reggie Wayne so and 619 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: that and the real reality, West tied with Seam and 620 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: had him on the tiebreaker with the time so West one. However, 621 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: we sent Sean his toaster anyway because we thought that 622 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: Sean at the time was the winner. We weren't going 623 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: to take it away from him, but we said it 624 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: was a caveat. We said, gotta get Sean back on. 625 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Rocky two situation, Rocky Versapollo. We're 626 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna find out once and for all who is the 627 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: true toaster master. And here we go. We got Seam 628 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: on the line. Are you there, Sean? Yeah, I'm here. 629 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, welcome back. First thing, First things first, you 630 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: received the toaster. It was sent to you. I just 631 00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: want to make sure confirming receipt, confirming receipt and constant usage. Really, 632 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: Sean is a big Packers fan as we know, and 633 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: um it was a Packers toaster. Um. And just to 634 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: make it clear, since we sent Shama toaster, he's not 635 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: gonna get another toaster if he beats West. Sean, you 636 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: know you don't want to be greedy about this, and 637 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: it's it's more than enough just to potentially defeat Wes 638 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 1: once and for all. Improve you're the master of trivia 639 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: for the Around League podcast. Isn't that right? Well, it's 640 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: absolutely right. All right, Well, thank you for coming on, Shaman. 641 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 1: Why don't we get this thing going so West you 642 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: will step in behind the glass and join joined k 643 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Rich Mark Sessler as always, Mark, you are the timekeeper. Yeah. 644 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: I feel a little more confident about that, sass than 645 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: I did in previous episodes. Yes, And for those of 646 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: you who have not listened in on this game, the 647 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: brief rundown of the rules. Uh, there will be six 648 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: questions and the first contestant will get the six questions. 649 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: It will be timed after those six questions are up. 650 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: West will come into the room get the same six questions. 651 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: Whoever gets more is the winner of the toaster or 652 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: the title of trivia. If it's a tie, it's broken 653 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: by Mark Sessler's timekeeping. And that's how the game works. 654 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: M You are aware of all this, correct, Yeah, he 655 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: knows the rules because guy's got glory in his heart. 656 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: All right, chim here we go. Best of luck to you. 657 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: Let's play the game. Win West's toaster. Okay? What Baltimore 658 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: Ravens player was named NFL Defensive Player of the Year 659 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand three, who was the centerpiece of the 660 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: Blockbuster nine trade with the Vikings that helped launch the 661 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys dynasty, person Walker Ravens. Linebacker Terrell Suggs sometimes claims 662 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: to have attended what fictional institute of higher learning? Oh? 663 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: Can I come back to this? Yes? What is the 664 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: name of the Seahawks? Is home field? Century Linkfield? Which 665 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: third string quarterback led the Texans to a surprise win 666 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: during the two thousand eleven playoffs. Ah, he's some mom state. 667 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: I'll come back to that. The Jacksonville Jaguars and CAROLINEA 668 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 1: Panther has played their games first games in what year? 669 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: Five seconds time? Sean, You've got four correct, that's a 670 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: good score. Mark. What is the what is the math 671 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: of that? Four out of six? Four out of six 672 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: is uh? It's a positive number. Yes, good job? All right, 673 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: Here comes West coming into the room. Wes, who told 674 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: me he studied a little bit. He studied and went 675 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: home and studied. He was a little worried about corporate sponsorships. 676 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: Um whether that would be a question that would be asked. 677 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: I didn't tell him whether there would be one or not. 678 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: But when I was advised by my attorney, Dave Damaschek, 679 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: that if I am asked the corporate name of the stadium, 680 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: that I should just get up and leave because it's 681 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: too trivial. Instead of trivial, well, I would never do that. 682 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: All right, Sean. All you do is listen in and 683 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: see if you're the champ. Wes, here you go. What 684 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens player was named NFL Defensive Player of the 685 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Year in two thousand three. Ray Lewis, who was the 686 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: centerpiece of the Blockbuster nine trade with the Vikings that 687 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: helped launch the Cowboys dynasty, Herschel Walker Ravens, linebacker Terrell 688 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: Suggs sometimes claims to have attended what fictional institute of 689 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: higher learning ball so Hard University. What is the name 690 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks home field? Century Link? The clink? Uh more? 691 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: We need more? Century Link field? Which third string quarterback 692 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: led the Texans to a surprise win During the two 693 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: thousand eleven playoffs. T J Yates, the Jacksonville Jaguars and 694 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers played their first games in what year? Up 695 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: the clock? That was six out of six start for 696 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: Chris Lesling shot studying pays off. That was very impressive. Sean. 697 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: You you put up a great effort. You actually got 698 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: four out of six, which is an excellent score. But 699 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: on this day West was the trivia master. He keeps 700 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: his toaster here. Relations thank you, Sean. You know, and 701 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: in all true rivalries, I think at some point we'll 702 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: probably have to have the grudge match. Um. Even though 703 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: West would argue that he won both matches, you know, 704 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: let's just say the first one was a controversial, will 705 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: never really know what it was about. This was more definitive. 706 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: West played brilliantly layeth the smacketh down. Oh Sean, did 707 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: you hear that? I did? I did. I can't wait 708 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: for the decider. Yeah, so Sean, you just you just 709 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: keep listening and we will we'll We'll be sure to 710 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: bring you back for the grudge match. Keep up the 711 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: good work. And yeah, I'm also very keenly watching Raider 712 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: now just figure that I want we Hey, Seum, I 713 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: just want to say that I enjoyed that. Thank you, Sean. 714 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: You're a good sport. Thank you. Guys. Have a good one, 715 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: all right, you too. Alright, So West, that was very impressive. 716 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: I think k Rich behind the glass you there, I'm here. 717 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: I think we should play one more time. I know 718 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: there was a lot of there were a lot of 719 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: people on Twitter that we're excited about taking west On. 720 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: There a lot more heat than in the past when 721 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: we play this game. That just shows that the podcast 722 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: really is sweeping through America. Uh, do we have someone 723 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: on the line that could take west On? We do. 724 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: And let me tell you that I screened this person. 725 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: He was pretty darn good West, so I wouldn't be 726 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: so so confident. You do your studying, but be prepared 727 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: for a good match. Now on the phone is a 728 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: true contender, Matt Harmon, Beware, Hey Matt, Matt Harmon, are 729 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: you doing? How you doing? Welcome to the Round League 730 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: podcast being where are you from that? I am from Virginia, 731 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: Lunchburg right now? To be exactly who's your team? Well, 732 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: that's a complicated question. I went through a weird thing. 733 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: I've been a Panthers fan my whole life, but I 734 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: went through a weird phase of them earlier this year 735 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: to but then then then they started winning, so I 736 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: guess I'm still a fan. Yeah, this is not the 737 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: time to jump off the Panthers. Van. You must be 738 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: a young fellow if you've been running for that. The 739 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: whole moment after the Buffalo lost, where I was just 740 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: that was that was kind of a dark point. And 741 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: then ever since done that, you know, they've really turned 742 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: it around. The impetus for a river ball room exactly. 743 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: So now now I can't hate on it, but you know, 744 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: I try to put on the analyst hat more than 745 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: the more than the fan hat. Yes, so ky Ridge 746 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: screened you. She said that you were a worthy competitive 747 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: We just don't want to scare you, or perhaps we 748 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: do want to scare you. But West already took down 749 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: sham Um the rocky Balboa to his apollo Creed, and 750 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: West hosted a perfect score in the first round of 751 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: this game. So you are this is your last chance. 752 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: You are the last chance of the people to take 753 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: down the champ. We told that the rules of the game. 754 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: He was aware of them, but we told him before 755 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: we came on. So now the time has come. West. 756 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: You will now move back behind the glass, came Ridge. 757 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: You behave yourself back there, came Ridge. You can hit 758 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: him with that stick I gave you if he gets 759 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: out of line. Yeah, you know, you know I will. 760 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: I know you will, and I respect that. Respect the 761 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: hell out of you. Carrige. All right, Matt, are you ready? Yeah? 762 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: What Cardinal's rookie in two thousand three caught a pass 763 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: in his first thirty two games. Name the veteran kicker 764 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: who's thirty eight yard miss INNC title game helped cross 765 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: the Vikings a trip to the Super Bowl. Name the 766 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: defensive back who played for a record twenty seasons for 767 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: the Redskins. Who is the new England Patriots all time 768 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: receptions leader? Path who was the NFL's two thousand eleven 769 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: rushing champion thousand eleven? We chose do what coach made 770 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: the following statement after a Super Bowl loss in two 771 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: thousand six. I didn't know we were going to have 772 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: to play the guys in the striped shirts as well. 773 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: Ten seconds? Who is the new England Patriots all time 774 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: receptions leader? Three seconds? Time time? All right, looks like 775 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: you Matt got three out of six? Three out of six? 776 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: Not that? Yeah, Hey, listen, some people aspire the mediocrity, Matt, 777 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: you're not question West is coming back in am I 778 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: allowed to know how many he got? Right? No, we're 779 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 1: not gonna tell you. All right, fair enough you nothing everything? 780 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: M Maybe all right, here we go. What Cardinal's rookie 781 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,479 Speaker 1: of two thousand three quart a pass in his first 782 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: thirty two games? And Kwan Bolden name the veteran kicker 783 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: who's thirty eight yard miss in the NFC title Game 784 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: helped cost the Vikings a trip to the Super Bowl. 785 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: Gary Anderson named the defensive back who played for a 786 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: record twenty seasons for the Redskins Darryl Green, who was 787 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: the who is the New England Patriots all time receptions leader? 788 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: I have to go West Welker, who was the NFL's 789 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven rushing champion pass what coach made the 790 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 1: following statement after Super Bowl loss in two thousand six, 791 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know we were going to have to play 792 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: the guys in the striped shirts as well. Mike Holmgren, 793 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: who was the nfls two thousand eleven Russian champion Marshawn 794 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: lanch Okay, looks like you got five. That's five out 795 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: of six and that beats three from that where this 796 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: is a big day for Chris Westling. Yes, it was 797 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: your victory speech. Go ahead, well you know what. The 798 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: toaster is mine. I'm keeping it. I've earned it and 799 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: no one else can have it. Matt whoa? What is 800 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: this seduction Wednesday? Right like that? Matt, you you gave 801 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: a good gave good performance. Three out of six is 802 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed of. But west was just on 803 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: his game today. I mean, I should have known who's 804 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: the two thousand eleven Russian chance Maurice Jones drew and 805 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: should have known that you did get that right, that's correct. Um, 806 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: so thank you very much, Matt, and thank you for listening, 807 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: and thank you for playing. When West's Toaster, thanks all right, 808 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: Matt seems like a nice fellow. He does, all right. 809 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: That's when West's Toaster A big victory for West today. 810 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: He is the champion. No one can deny that we 811 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: will bring the game back. So when the time comes 812 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: and we call for more contestants, be ready, be ready. Uh. 813 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: Around the Week podcast listeners is the man is using 814 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: confidence right now, using confidence. But that is it for 815 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: today's show. We will be back Friday, of course, where 816 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: we will talk about that Thursday night game between the 817 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: Broncos and the and the Chargers, will break down all 818 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: of the week fifteen games. It's almost over. Everything ends, 819 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: That's that's what this tells me. It was like another 820 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: eight or nine weeks when you factor in the playoffs, 821 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: then it goes right into draft and comb it never 822 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: ends in Oh so it never ends, not for you. 823 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of a mixture of everything ends in a 824 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: never ends. That's the NFL. It's existential. Um. So we'll 825 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: be back and until then, this is Dan Hansons signing 826 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: off for the victorious mailman, the sizzler, k Rich behind 827 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: the glass, Zach behind the glass, and the Boss wherever 828 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: he may be. And Lyle the intern who messed up, 829 00:44:47,280 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: almost messed up when West's toaster again by It's so Friday.