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Speaker 1: again that's posted right after four o'clock. We were on

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Speaker 1: last night, me and Eric and Ray Deborah slept.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: Sorry. We tried. We tried well not waking you, but

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Speaker 1: we said text to see if we could rouse you up.

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Speaker 1: So we did. We did from midnight to three am

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Speaker 1: last night, which was which was fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you had a good time.

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Speaker 1: I got home well yesterday from our normal show and

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Speaker 1: then I put myself to bed at eight o'clock. Slept

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Speaker 1: I said in alarm, and that woke me up. I

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Speaker 1: We did our thing, went back home three point thirty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to know, because last night I did

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Speaker 3: I wasn't you know, it wasn't RESTful. Yeah, Well, the

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Speaker 1: I have an empty mind. You have a very cluttered,

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Speaker 1: busy mind. I do right. See, you'd have to go empty,

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Speaker 1: just delete everything. How do you do that? Huh? You

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever try to stop thinking?

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Speaker 3: Yes, John, I have tried meditation. I have tried breathing

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Speaker 1: And and the fire was headed up through to Pega

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Speaker 1: that was freaky. Well someday that's that's gonna be what

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Speaker 1: That's where I live. I understand that I live in emptiness. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This morning I turned on Fox eleven, which really has

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Speaker 1: the fifty billion? Here? You want to see my balance sheet?

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't exist.

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Speaker 3: I can kind of understand that when you start canceling

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Speaker 3: And they still they cancel, and then there's everybody's left

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it goes. Then only the super wealthy

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Speaker 1: It's let let's say we created some kind of super

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Speaker 1: what if it's run by Los Angeles. Well that's Karen

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Speaker 1: And Karen Bass failed us miserably. Newsome failed us miserably

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Speaker 1: this week. There's no sugarcoating it. I am not putting

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Speaker 1: a cliff. Because the CBS News reporter Joseph Vigliotti questioned

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Speaker 1: the eaton fire. It's moved onto Mount Wilson in where

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Speaker 1: But everybody's in the broadcast industry out here is nervously

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Speaker 1: You know what to do. So, Karen Bass, the whole

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Speaker 1: Total evasion of the question, a little bit of scolding

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Speaker 1: It's astonishing that she said that not even a drop

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Speaker 1: The hell are you talking about? Lady? We come back

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Speaker 1: Let's get out to Alex Stone. Alex is back in Altadena,

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Speaker 2: How are you hey there, John?

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Speaker 2: Here ian Altadena itself, it has actually been pretty calm

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Speaker 2: No, they have no idea. The fire chief and others

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Speaker 2: bed thinking, you know what, the fire is up, you

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Speaker 2: know quite a way, it's in the hills, We're going

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Speaker 2: to be fine down here. And then in the wind,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, the wind. I've covered hurricanes before, and it

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Speaker 2: was very similar to standing in a hurricane where it

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Speaker 2: was so forceful that you could not stand and there

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Speaker 2: was so much stuff, you know, pieces of buildings and

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Speaker 2: trees just flying in the air, and then the hot

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Speaker 2: embers rolling down the hill that it pushed. If there

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Speaker 2: were some wind gusts that were calculated at one hundred

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Speaker 2: miles an hour and one hundred miles an hour, the

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Speaker 2: fire is running at one hundred miles an hour, and

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Speaker 2: that's when people just cannot get out those embers. That

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Speaker 2: that fire is moving in that wind at that same speed,

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Speaker 2: and they were likely either asleep or in their homes

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Speaker 2: deciding that they were going to go. I talked to

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Speaker 2: one guy today. He was showing me right where we

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Speaker 2: are that his home is gone, and he told me

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Speaker 2: at around five am yesterday he decided he had to go,

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Speaker 2: that he was trying to wait it out. He thought

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Speaker 2: he would use his garden hose, and that he was

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Speaker 2: able to save his home. At around five am, he

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Speaker 2: said that all dets are off and he ran and

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Speaker 2: he ran out of here, and he said, look, I'm alive.

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Speaker 2: That he's devastated about losing his home, but he's alive.

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Speaker 2: So people tried to stick around. There were some even

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Speaker 2: all day yesterday as we watched some of these neighborhoods burn,

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Speaker 2: where they were up on their roofs with their garden hoses,

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Speaker 2: trying everything they could. Some were successful, some were not.

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Speaker 2: You know, firefighters do that. Your garden hose is never

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Speaker 2: going to compete. But everybody wants to try to save

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Speaker 2: their home. It's totally understandable, but you're never going to

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Speaker 2: compete with what a firefighter's hose can do, but also

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Speaker 2: with what the wall of flames is doing. But still

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Speaker 2: people they want to try and and it did work

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Speaker 2: for some, but it didn't work forever about it.

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Speaker 1: So the front of the fire is where now? Is

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Speaker 1: it threatening other developments?

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Speaker 2: It's really up in the mountains. It's really the area

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Speaker 2: around Mount Wilson. There's no real front in Altadena anymore.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, hopefully things don't kick up tonight

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Speaker 2: and then that changes. We've seen a couple of homes

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Speaker 2: go up today, mainly from embers that were still active

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Speaker 2: in the buildings, and then they took off today because

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Speaker 2: there's still so much active fire and as more crews

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Speaker 2: come in from elsewhere, they'll be able to get in

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Speaker 2: and try to knock down the parts of buildings that

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Speaker 2: are still kind of burning that they can take off again.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the La County Fire said today Chief Maroney

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Speaker 2: that they really didn't have much growth overnight on this fire.

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Speaker 2: Now I think today the growth is going to go

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Speaker 2: up because of what's going on in the mountains around

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Speaker 2: Mount Wilson. But that will be growth. But in the

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Speaker 2: last you know, since last night, they really didn't have

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Speaker 2: a ton of growth, and especially year in Altadena and

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Speaker 2: in parts of Pasadena that they there wasn't much new

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Speaker 2: activity that was going on. But this is really going

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Speaker 2: to be about the overnight hours tonight getting through what

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Speaker 2: the forecast says is going to be another round of

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Speaker 2: Santa Ana wins and then we should get a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a break until early next week and then

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Speaker 2: we're going to go through it again. But the challenge

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Speaker 2: is going to be when the next round, and hopefully

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Speaker 2: it does not materialize, but if it does tonight, then

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Speaker 2: using Saturday and Sunday to try to really button up

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Speaker 2: this and Pacific Palisades so that when we get the

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Speaker 2: next round early next week the things don't take off again.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Alex, stay safe, Thank you, great reporting, You.

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Speaker 2: Got it, Thanks Sean.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Alex Stone reporting for KFI ABC News. We

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Speaker 1: will continue with our fire coverage.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 1: After Debra's News. At two o'clock, we're going to have

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Speaker 1: bar president of the United Firefighters of Los Angeles Local

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Speaker 1: one twelve. He's got thirty five years of experience. He's

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Speaker 1: been on with us previously to talk about whether Karen

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Speaker 1: Bass's budget cuts, the staffing shortages, the water issues, what

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Speaker 1: effect they had on the Pacific Palisades situation. And he's

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Speaker 1: going to tell us what he knows coming up right

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Speaker 1: after two o'clock, because we are going to try to

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Speaker 1: find out what happened in the hours leading up to

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Speaker 1: the fire and in the hours afterwards, in the next

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Speaker 1: two days that it was certainly a horrific natural situation,

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Speaker 1: well natural. I don't know who set the fire. Was

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Speaker 1: it a homeless guy. Was it a homeless guy that

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Speaker 1: the government should have had removed? Was did he start

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Speaker 1: fire and brush that should have been paired back by

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Speaker 1: the government, by Karen Bass's administration. See, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions here, and because there's so many of them,

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Speaker 1: and it encompasses so many different agencies, so many different responsibilities,

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Speaker 1: and nobody wants to talk again. What they want to

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Speaker 1: do is just weigh everyone out. But they can't because

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Speaker 1: everyone woke up in the palace. Every resident who is

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Speaker 1: in the Palisades woke up today, and those who had

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Speaker 1: homes that burned to the ground, those homes are still gone.

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Speaker 3: By John, it looks like President Biden right now is

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Speaker 3: getting an update from Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: Dip into this all right.

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Speaker 8: When I will also make a note of the fact

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Speaker 8: that sadly, many insurance companies have canceled insurance for a

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Speaker 8: lot of the families who have been affected and will

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Speaker 8: be affected, which is only going to delay or place

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Speaker 8: an added burden on their ability to recover. And I

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Speaker 8: think that is an important look at him must be

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Speaker 8: raised and hopefully there can be It looks like address

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Speaker 8: that issue because these fa them otherwise will not have Look.

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Speaker 9: He's completely stiff and his eyes are playing nodding, and

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Speaker 9: many of them have lost everything in the midst However,

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Speaker 9: of all of the trauma that has occurred, we have

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Speaker 9: seen extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: Acts of heroism.

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Speaker 8: I'm hearing countless stories of strangers helping strangers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, people who.

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Speaker 8: Are opening their homes are intact.

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Speaker 1: And have not how about how about demanding that Karen

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Speaker 1: Bass be investigated by the way Bass was the other choice.

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Speaker 1: Spiden had for the vice presidency if if Kamala didn't

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Speaker 1: take the role. But he is sitting there and he's sleeping,

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Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'm not kidding. And his mouth

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Speaker 1: has opened a little bit, his eyes are closed, and

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Speaker 1: he's perfectly still.

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Speaker 3: He's tired, he's had to deal.

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Speaker 1: With a lot. But doesn't it look like we've been briefed.

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Speaker 3: A lot about all the fires going on in US

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Speaker 3: in California For.

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Speaker 1: A second, I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 3: His eyes are open.

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Speaker 1: They're open now, they flickered open.

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Speaker 3: Now they well, yeah, they open and close.

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Speaker 1: All right. Maybe maybe that's how he listens best, John.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe my channel is on a bit of delay. Right.

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Speaker 1: That guy looks asleep. Oh now he's leaning forward. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's moving again. That was a nice little mini nap

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Speaker 1: he took while Kamelo was drowning on Wow. Is he

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Speaker 1: going to talk? I don't know. He's raising his hand. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's let's dip in. Let me say he's going to

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Speaker 1: say something.

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Speaker 6: A lot of electrics fists included the senators, some of

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Speaker 6: the congress persons in the region, as well as the

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Speaker 6: vice presidents as well.

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Speaker 1: And I want to be clear that one.

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Speaker 6: Of the reasons I've asked this larger group to get

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Speaker 6: together is because they control the very agencies that are

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Speaker 6: needed from a federal level to get things done. And UH,

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Speaker 6: you know, we're in a situation where the US Forest

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Speaker 6: Service Chief Randy Morris here and you're going to provide

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Speaker 6: an update in the fire situation Los Angers to discuss

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Speaker 6: how the US Fire Service for the US Forest Service

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Speaker 6: is the sisty Los Angeles in the state of California

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Speaker 6: with fighting the wildfire, including the Actions Team is taken

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Speaker 6: to suppress new fire stars. So, Chief, why don't you

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Speaker 6: fire away?

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Speaker 1: Thank you as the president.

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Speaker 10: Madame Vice President, it's great to see you.

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Speaker 1: I too, Let's see stays away.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and so it's it's great to be here to

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Speaker 10: talk about this dramatic situation that we have. So the

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Speaker 10: Force Service and the Department of Interior are actively engaged

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Speaker 10: in supporting the response to the wildfires in southern California,

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Speaker 10: and there are four major fires that we currently have

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Speaker 10: going on.

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Speaker 1: The Force Services in.

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Speaker 10: Unify command with UH with the LA County as well

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Speaker 10: as other local city.

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Speaker 1: Age. I don't hear anything. I don't hear anything newsworthy there,

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Speaker 1: but that's the way it goes, and you know what

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Speaker 1: they should be calling for is an investigation as to

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Speaker 1: how all this got so bad. That's what ought to happen.

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Speaker 1: When we come back after Deborah's news, Freddy Escobar, president

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Speaker 1: of the United Firefighters in Los Angeles Local one twelve.

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Speaker 1: It's been around thirty five years. He's seen everything and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna give us his opinion on whether there were cuts,

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Speaker 1: staffing issues, water problems. See what he knows, what he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know yet. All Ahead and Debra bark Is live

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