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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Ali. He

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio and Matt Matt Miller on ESPN has upgraded

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Speaker 1: his prospects who have a first round grade and this

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Speaker 1: year's draft. He he's one of my favorite draft analysts.

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Speaker 1: When he did this earlier in the season, I believe

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Speaker 1: it's around mid November, he had I believe fifteen seventeen.

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Speaker 1: It was early December. He had seven team players in

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Speaker 1: this draft who have a first round grade. Further proof

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Speaker 1: of what we often tell people that there aren't thirty

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Speaker 1: two first round grades. Sometimes there's ten, sometimes there's you know, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: he's now bumped it up to twenty, and he says

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Speaker 1: he does he's done this by looking at the last

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Speaker 1: five drafts and saying, would this player be a first

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Speaker 1: round pick in any of those previous five drafts like

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Speaker 1: this draft, particularly week, and we would he would have

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Speaker 1: easily been in he bent top ten pick last year.

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Speaker 1: So he's up to twenty guys in this draft. So

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Speaker 1: let's go through. Yeah, so let's take a look at

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Speaker 1: who he now has as a a top UH in

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Speaker 1: his twenty So I'm wondering if there's a guard or

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Speaker 1: a running back. He's not predicting, no doubt. These guys

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Speaker 1: are going in the first round. But they have a

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Speaker 1: great he's great at them with the first round grade.

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Speaker 1: He's got three quarterbacks. Bryce Young is his number two overall.

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Speaker 1: C J. Stroud from Ohio State is his number four overall. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and then he's got Will Levice from Kentucky as his

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Speaker 1: number twelve overall. He also has calms here for these guys.

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Speaker 1: His calm for Bryce Young is too interesting. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: make me want to take him number two overall. Small,

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Speaker 1: can you stay in the field. I think he's more

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Speaker 1: of a playmate er than two. I think so at

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Speaker 1: the same stage of his career. But but he's saying

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Speaker 1: he's six pounds. He's tiny. Yeah, I mean they're they're

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Speaker 1: hoping his camp that he comes in. It's six ft

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Speaker 1: kind of Kyler Murray two oh five. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: bet he doesn't run at the combine because you have

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Speaker 1: put on yeah, right, you know, carrying rocks are on

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Speaker 1: this pants. Yeah. I mean people that have been next

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Speaker 1: to him have said he looks like he's fiver. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a slot receiver. Yeah. That worries the heck out

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Speaker 1: to me. His comfert Stroud is Dak Prescott. Okay, highly accurate.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that's his number one attribute. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that. I think that's a little more physical.

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Speaker 1: And then his comfort levis is Matthew Stafford. Okay. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's a big, strong, strap and how you draw

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Speaker 1: it up type of guy with some mistakes. And Stafford

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Speaker 1: was like that way much of his career too. He's

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Speaker 1: got one running back, sure Robinson the Compass. He's number

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Speaker 1: five overall. By the way he makes sense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're just if you have to put a grade

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Speaker 1: on a player, it's hard not to have him graded

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Speaker 1: very high. And the Compass Sekwon Barkley. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: I've heard as well. And he's big, he's a great receiver,

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Speaker 1: he's a tackle breaker, he's explosive and not the sakwe

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Speaker 1: has been a bust. But the only knock on se Kwan.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see with Bijon is some of those

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Speaker 1: elite backs. We'll take it to that. We'll dance a

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Speaker 1: little bit more or try to hit the home run

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Speaker 1: often because they can, you know, in the big ten.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see that as a problem for him.

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Speaker 1: Robinson wide receiver, he's got three and I was wonderful

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Speaker 1: be any or a couple, because there's a few that

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Speaker 1: are debatable. He's got Jackson Smith in jigba uh out

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Speaker 1: of Ohio State at number thirteen. The compass Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Contested catch guy, more slot than traditional outside

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Speaker 1: not as big either. Not Allen is a big dude.

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Speaker 1: He makes a lot of players in the middle field,

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Speaker 1: think Addison is that type of guy. And then Quentin

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Speaker 1: the last of his first round guys. He considers him

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Speaker 1: So I think they're pretty similars, like, yeah, good player,

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Speaker 1: It's one. It's Michael Mayer and a Notre Dame. Number

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Speaker 1: fifteen is compass T J. Hawkinson, and everyone be happy

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Speaker 1: him at number eight overall. That's his highest ranks tackle

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Speaker 1: and his camp is Ryan Ramsack. Okay, I mean Ramsacks

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Speaker 1: had a tremendous career, very technically sound, big ten guy.

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Speaker 1: Ramsay has more prototypical size length right behind arm Me

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Speaker 1: as Paris Johnson at nine. He's from Ohio State. His

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Speaker 1: Very good athlete, prototypical traits, one year starter at tackle.

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Speaker 1: And then Roderick Jones from Georgia number sixteen, his compass

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Speaker 1: tackle as well. Um, I guess that's a fine comp

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Speaker 1: but I think Jones might not have the upside of Johnson.

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Speaker 1: into Jonathan Ogden, I mean it's probably the Ohio State dude.

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Speaker 1: I have a hunch. I don't know where Scronsky is

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Speaker 1: Scronsky is gonna be a guy some teams won't draft

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Speaker 1: him right he can you know, the Senior Bowl, that

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I don't think he is, but the the

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Speaker 1: the combine is gonna be huge for him, for huge

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Speaker 1: for him. I mean some people are like he's Zack Martin. Well,

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin's like the best guard in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: That be fine, But if I need a left tackle,

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Speaker 1: that's not okay. You know, some people are gonna say

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Speaker 1: he's better version of Kelvin Beacham, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: some shorter guys have survived and done well. No interior

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Speaker 1: know there are guys like o Cyrus, Torrence Luke Wilpur

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they're not. Those last two would be sort

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Speaker 1: you know, or maybe even late round two. I mean

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Speaker 1: or will Anderson's is number one overall, This is good

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Speaker 1: he put on ten pounds and be six five pounds

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Speaker 1: is number one, the compass one Miller, He's number one overall.

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Speaker 1: Miles Murphy had a Clemson previous We just talked about

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Speaker 1: number six overall the Compass Bradley Chubb. But I don't

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Speaker 1: see that. I like the Trayvon Walker call for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you look at him, you say, well, we could

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Speaker 1: easily get him up to two ninety, right and make

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Speaker 1: I bet that the because I mean that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of athleticism that Bret Kisel had. That's what made him

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Speaker 1: you know, what to do with a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: because Kisa was like, you know, six six to eight.

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Speaker 1: stricter back then too. I don't think Murphy's gonna be

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Speaker 1: be like fifth. He has Tyree Wilson out of Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech is his number seven overall prospect. Ste doesn't really

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Speaker 1: look at and say, can we put ten pounds on him,

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Speaker 1: I doubt he'll be in the mix of nineteen, but

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Speaker 1: it's possible, you know. I mean if you he's your

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Speaker 1: I keep saying nine. I knew that too, um real

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Speaker 1: that's not what they right, uh, And then they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have drafted Lye out right. Lucas van Ness out of Iowa.

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Speaker 1: He camps him to George Carl Loftus, another guy who's

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Speaker 1: six five to seventy. Can you put on that guy

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Speaker 1: don't have to be one or the other, just a physical,

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Speaker 1: passive conversation. More and more I have a feeling, you know,

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Speaker 1: and because we started doing our marks, like, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: this guy is there and he's disruptive, and yeah, seven

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Speaker 1: out of ten plays he's going to be hard to block,

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Speaker 1: you know, thirteen and a half sacks and fifty three

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Speaker 1: compare him to George carl offtis Okay, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: easy comparison. Yeah, okay, I think he's more athletic than

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Speaker 1: carl Yeah, I think so too. At defensive tackle only

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Speaker 1: one one Jalen Carr, Jalen Carter, number three overall the

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Speaker 1: compass Fletcher Cox. That's pretty good. Yeah, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: as good at the tackle prospect is I can remember.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Donald wasn't that guy coming out, and

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Speaker 1: he wasn't a top two pick um. The breezy did

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Speaker 1: not make it. Breezy did not make it. I kind

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Speaker 1: of see that. I mean there's some things you know

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Speaker 1: he hasn't played a ton of football. Uh. At linebacker,

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Speaker 1: one picks are Arkansas Drew Sanders, Clemson's Trent and Simpson. Okay,

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Speaker 1: some people that love Sanders. Yeah. Well, there's there's lots alike. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: At cornerback three, how about that Devins. Devin Witherspoon from

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Speaker 1: Illinois is his number ten overall posiness. Remember he was DJE.

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Speaker 1: Darius Slay is the comp okay, a little bit thin,

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Speaker 1: but I mean unbelievably productive. Yeah, didn't allow any any completions.

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Speaker 1: Joey Porter is his number eleven. His comp is Marlin Humphrey. Nice.

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