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Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda land Audio

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Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. I was in early contractions,

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Speaker 1: but it was still really painful. And I look up

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Speaker 1: and my husband's just like full on eating a cheeseburger. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: it's Katie Lows. Welcome to the fourth season of Katie's Crib.

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Speaker 1: And for the past few months, I have been endlessly

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Speaker 1: negotiating with my toddler, the three nature Albie. I have

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Speaker 1: been babbling with my newborn daughter, Vera. I've been getting vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: I've been getting out of my sweats aka my quarantine uniform.

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Speaker 1: I've been getting into character for a few new projects.

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Speaker 1: And basically I couldn't be more excited to be sitting

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Speaker 1: back in my closet, the one part of the house

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Speaker 1: that has locks on the door, talking with you guys.

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Speaker 1: So much has happened over this brief hiatus, some of

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Speaker 1: which inspired topics that actually I'm in all to see

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Speaker 1: a little bit nervous about, but ultimately I am very

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Speaker 1: much looking forward to sharing with you and to dig

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Speaker 1: into this season. I want season four to provide you

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Speaker 1: guys with joy and laughter. It has been a very,

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Speaker 1: very tough time for a lot of people, and I

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Speaker 1: want us to come together, come back to our Katie's

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Speaker 1: Crib community, laugh, and have a damn good time. So

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Speaker 1: pour yourself a drink, sit down, take a breath, listen,

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Speaker 1: and get into the new season of Katie's Crib. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited about today's guest. It's come on. It's really

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Speaker 1: just a hang sash, That's what it is. It's with

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Speaker 1: me and my girl, Kat McPhee Foster. I made my

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Speaker 1: Broadway debut with her in the amazing musical written by

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Speaker 1: Sarah Burrelli's waitress, and Cat and I have been We've

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Speaker 1: been friends just ever since. She just became a mom

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Speaker 1: like two seconds ago. And by two seconds ago, I

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Speaker 1: mean like a few months by the time of this

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Speaker 1: podcast airing, and I was like, we gotta have Cat

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Speaker 1: open season four. I hadn't talked to her yet, and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear all about her birth story

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Speaker 1: or in her pregnancy and the whole situation in the

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Speaker 1: realist dealist form. So here she is Cat McPhee Foster.

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Speaker 1: You know Cat as an actress, singer, songwriter, and philanthropist.

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Speaker 1: You may also know her from the fifth season of

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Speaker 1: American Idol. She has like a huge acting list, CBS

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Speaker 1: drama Scorpion, the musical drama Smash, which is me and

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Speaker 1: Adam's favorite. She's been on everything cs I in New York, Guys,

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Speaker 1: Hello Family, Guy, The House Bunny. She starts on the

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Speaker 1: new Netflix comedy series Country Comfort. She sings an axe

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Speaker 1: on it, so be sure to check that out. And

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Speaker 1: she is married to the now sixteen Grammy Award winner

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Speaker 1: producer David Foster. And of course they just introduced their

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Speaker 1: son Renny, into the world in February. Cat Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Katie's Crib. How you handheld walked me through my Broadway debut.

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Speaker 1: I have never been so scared in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: You were the Jenna to um wait, oh my god, mom, brain,

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Speaker 1: what the heck was my character? His name again, Dawn?

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Speaker 1: I might have just tuned it all out because I

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Speaker 1: was so scared. But you're a mom. Now I'm a mom.

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Speaker 1: Now we're both moms. Well you were already a mom

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Speaker 1: when I met you, but now you're a two time mom.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, did you always know you wanted

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Speaker 1: to be a mom? Because this is so interesting, But

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Speaker 1: I actually don't have a lot of friends that I

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Speaker 1: would describe as maternal, and you are one of them, Like, like,

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Speaker 1: you were always such a caretaker, and um, you're so

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Speaker 1: wanted to be a mom? Yeah? I have. I've always

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I'm I'm such a like natural,

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Speaker 1: February sixteenth or something or seventeen, I can't remember. And

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00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: so we're like, oh, he's born early on lincoln birthday,

426
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 1: will name whatever. So that didn't happen, but we still

427
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: like the name. We thought like, hey, link Foster right, um,

428
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: such a good name. And so we still haven't decided.

429
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: We were just like one of those those parents were

430
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: we want to meet him. So I Gottennapi Darle finished.

431
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: It was already eight centimeters and I was feeling much better,

432
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: and David had been messaging people all day long. So

433
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 1: he's so excited, you know, like his family and his friends,

434
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: and so he said, oh, I'm on an interesting text

435
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: chain with my sisters and he's he's got five sisters now,

436
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: his six sisters, but once passed away. Um, and they

437
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: were all kind of talking about the name, and David's like,

438
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: we haven't decided yet, and she said, well, have you

439
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: ever thought about Rennie Rennie Foster? That was our great

440
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: great grandfather's name and our great uncle's name. So they

441
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: named him another one of their relatives. Um. He died

442
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: when he was two, but like back in the day,

443
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: like a really old old name. And when he said it,

444
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: like my birth my sister brought up Rennie Foster, like, hey,

445
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: rend Foster, and I turned my head. He was on

446
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: my right again, and I was just like, oh my god,

447
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: that's such a cool name. I've never I've never heard

448
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: that name before. I just thought it was when he

449
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: said hi, rend Foster, I was like, WHOA, that's really strong.

450
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: The baby was born and I wasn't even thinking about

451
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: the name. I was just thinking about how cute he was,

452
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: even though you look back at the pictures and you're

453
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: like you were totally cross eyed and looked like an alien,

454
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: but I thought you were cute. Did he have a

455
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: cone head? He didn't really a little bit, but he

456
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: not too bad. Actually, surprisingly it was not as bad

457
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: as some cone heads that but he has a pretty

458
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: like you know, pretty round head. Anyway, they told me

459
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: that when he was in utero, like, well he's a

460
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: really round head. Wow, you know, so it might have.

461
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's going to change when he

462
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: comes out there, Like no, I don't necessarily. Um so

463
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: you knew the minute David Foster says his Rennie Foster,

464
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: and he said, and you were like, Wren, it was

465
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: just you knew, you knew in your gut. It was

466
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: like I wanted a name that yes, I love the

467
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: name Luke, but it didn't mean anything to me, like

468
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't I didn't have some history with the with

469
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: the name. And so when he said it, it sparked

470
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: like it did something to me internally, and it just

471
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: also had meaning right to his family, connected to his family.

472
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: Um so that was really what it was. And then

473
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: of course, like I for me, it wasn't a slow burn.

474
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: I was madly in love with him right away. I

475
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: was just I kind of knew that I would feel

476
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: that way. But some my my one of my best girlfriends,

477
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: said like she didn't feel that way. I didn't feel

478
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: that way with I didn't. Yeah, no, oh my god.

479
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: I was like, so like, what is this stranger? I

480
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: mean that must be such a wild feeling in itself.

481
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you're like, oh shit, I don't feel

482
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm supposed to be feeling more

483
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: than I do and I don't know why and it.

484
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: I kind of felt better about it with the second

485
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: kid because I was used to it on the first

486
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, I think I'm just one

487
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: of those people that's like that motherhood has just been

488
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: down in the hole so slow burned for me. But um,

489
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: like my best friend Amy and you like, there are

490
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: some women who literally lock eyes on the baby and

491
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: it's like it's a lightning bolt. Like I'm always careful

492
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: like around um, even before I had a baby, I

493
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: was always cognizant of being careful to like project how

494
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: I felt about being a mom, because you know, not

495
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: everybody like I had no baby blues this whole time,

496
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 1: in like today, I've actually been had baby blues right

497
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: like I've had I woke up this morning it was

498
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: much lower than I've been. I think my milk supply

499
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: went down, so the hormones drop. And I'm glad you

500
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: know all these things because I think there are a

501
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: lot of women that don't. My sister really really struggled

502
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: with postpartum in like a really bad way, and so

503
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: I was never would have been aware of it at all.

504
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: Hadn't it been something that like affected our family. You know,

505
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: that was really a big struggle for her. And she's

506
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: doing great, but um, it was really really hard for her,

507
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: and so for me and my mom, because my mom's like,

508
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: you're going to be like how I was. My mom

509
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: was the second she saw her babies, me and my sister,

510
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: she was madly in love and it felt easier to

511
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: her and um breastfeeding. She loved it. And it's all

512
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: the same things that are true for me. Um, But

513
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: for my sister it wasn't that way. She's such a

514
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: great mom. She loves being a mom. It's just like

515
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: there's a slow burn for some people, yeah, or like

516
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: a rough start or their hormones really affect people, um

517
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: all differently. So you felt loved first. How does David

518
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: feel about having a boy? Oh? My god, he loves it.

519
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: I mean, he loves this kid. It's so your I mean,

520
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: your parents gonna love every kid you have. But it's

521
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: been a long time since had a little baby in

522
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: his house. And he is just so cute with him.

523
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: And I always ask him every day they do you

524
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: love him? Baby? Do you love him? He goes, Okay, Um,

525
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: how's it being a step mom? I hear your stepdaughters

526
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: are like you guys are all super tight, and they're like,

527
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: how is our mom so hot? How have they taken

528
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: to Rennie? They make those jokes a lot. It's really funny.

529
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: It's been really nice because we're living in this condo

530
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: here um in l A. We're building a house, but

531
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: it's like a waze away and down the hallway. David

532
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: owns the unit next to us, and he had renters

533
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: in there for a long time and they moved out

534
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: during COVID, and so it's the first time he's not

535
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: not how to rent it out. And his youngest daughter, Jordan,

536
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: who's like a year younger than me. I think she's

537
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: got two kids, um and great husband. And so we

538
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: were trying to sell the place next door, but in

539
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: the meantime, like, come stay here with us. They live

540
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: in New York City. The COVID was really bad, there

541
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: and at least here they can enjoy them nice weather outside.

542
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: So they've been here since um last November that which

543
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: they they're still here. They're going to stay through June

544
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna go back to New York. But

545
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: it's been so nice. Um. I love all of them,

546
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: but particularly Jordan's because she's a mom of two young

547
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: kids and we literally have a hallway and Otto, who

548
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: is frequently on Aaron's Instagram, and Jordan's his mom's um

549
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: comes running down the hallway and Juny is only ten

550
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: months apart from my son as well as my nephew.

551
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: They're both all tenzing so um and it was just great,

552
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: like I love having them there, and it's really kind

553
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: of like feels like just a family sister early type thing.

554
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: And it was really nice because I was having another

555
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: like little mommy blues thing, so I was like opening

556
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: boxes in this foy. I just sitting on the ground

557
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: and we'd just come back from driving in the desert

558
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: and it was just you know, keeping a baby happy

559
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: for two hours in the car. It's just like a

560
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: little stressful and um, yeah, impossible. And she came in

561
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: and um okay, I said, heh yeah, I'm just I'm

562
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: just tired. And then she said something to me and

563
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: I totally just started like weeping and crying, and she

564
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: gave me the biggest hug and just said, Cat, I'm

565
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: so sorry. Being a mom is no joke. She looked

566
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: at me and said, like, even when you have this

567
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: like picture perfect I say that in quotations like experience

568
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: of being a mom and the baby's sleeping really well

569
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: and feeding really well and you had a perfect whatever,

570
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: She's like, it's still no joke, and it's still a

571
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: huge identity shift. It's still such an identity shift. And also,

572
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're at two months. You know, it's a

573
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: little bit of the honeymoon phase is ending. This is

574
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: what your life looks like now, and it's really exciting,

575
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: but it's really real and it's changed forever. Um, you know,

576
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot to process and there's a lot to honor.

577
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I have to say Jordan's wins for sure,

578
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: as like, you know, such a sweet little you know,

579
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: she's your favorite stepdaughter and my favorite stepdaughter. They've all

580
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: really been great, and it was just it's been nice

581
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: to have someone literally like a sister next door gets

582
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: on her knees and gives you a big hug when

583
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: you cry. Um, yeah, how old is Renny now? He

584
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: is two months in two days. Oh, it just makes

585
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: me laugh when I see your reaction. Well, it's that's amazing.

586
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: You're doing so well. And also, yeah, like I felt

587
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: such a fall off around breastfeeding, to be honest, Like

588
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: I remember sobbing in the waitress dressing room because I

589
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: got the call that I had to stop breastfeeding because

590
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: I out of staff infection in the subways of New

591
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: York City and I had to go on so many

592
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: different antibiotics in the dirty w No, I don't care, no, No,

593
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: I had like like on my side, it traveled down

594
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: a hair following and it was a really weird looking

595
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: pimple and they kind of open and they cultured and

596
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 1: they were like you have MERSA, which is like the

597
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: most deadliest staff and oh my gosh, and there was

598
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: a huge breakout. Um, never would have known this. You

599
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: were such a professional. No, I never called out for

600
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: like it was awful, and but I had to stop breastfeeding,

601
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: and it's just like, you know, I had a huge

602
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: hormone drop off. Then I sobbed, like crazy. My other

603
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: friend who's been on this podcast, um jen Fitting, and

604
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: she got postpartum blues around like six months when she

605
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: stopped breastfeeding. So there are a lot of hormones in play.

606
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: But good Lord, like for you to be where you're

607
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: at it two months and two weeks or whatever is great. Well,

608
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: my doctor didn't say it was that, like, if you're

609
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: going to have some serious postpart him stuff, it's usually

610
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: reveals itself within the first two weeks, you know. But

611
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: that being said, it doesn't mean that two months, three months,

612
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: four months later, even six months, you're not going to

613
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: feel some sort of Your hormones are constantly changing, do

614
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: you know? Um squirrel Mamas. She goes by Mama Seuss

615
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: her company, but she's her name is Desiree, and she's

616
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: this incredible missus who kind of worked, who works with

617
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: all new minds. I don't know. I don't know this,

618
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: so she doesn't. She's incredible. Her hands are like unbelievable.

619
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: But yesterday she came to my house and she works

620
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: on newborn babies too. She massage them because they're all

621
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: like really tight in your row. And yesterday morning I

622
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: woke up and I felt kind of bloated, and I

623
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's so weird. I haven't felt that

624
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: in so long, like you know, um menstrual cycle type

625
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: stuff like before you get your period. That was before

626
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: she came, and I just thought to myself, that's interesting,

627
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: I haven't had that in a long time. And then

628
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: she's massaging me and she's like, you know, you're ovulating

629
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: on your left side and I was like what, and

630
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: she's yeah, yeah, you're you're totally obulating obvulating here. I

631
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, that makes total sense that

632
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: I was bloated and that my hormones are like starting

633
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: to change. She's exactly right, that's exactly what that is.

634
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: And also how people get pregnant while their breastfeeding and

635
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: they think that they can't, but you can, even though

636
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: you don't have your period yet, you guys, you can

637
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: still ovulate and you can still think totally get pregnant.

638
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: I was like, to watch out. That would be the

639
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: most insane. I said, desert, like, there's no way someone

640
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: could have a baby and then two months later get pregnant.

641
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, yeah, it happened. That's called Irish twins.

642
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: They are nine to ten months apart. It's like literally

643
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: getting pregnant, like the first time you're like allowed to

644
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: have sex again. It's insane, it would be. How is

645
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: breastfeeding going? It's going great. Um. Another mommy friend was

646
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: just like, you're so lucky to have a good supply

647
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: and dada and have him latch properly. And I was

648
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: just like, I know, I'm so lucky. I've just been

649
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: so lucky. Um, he's a big baby. How how big

650
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: was he when he was born? He wasn't actually as

651
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: big as they told me he was going to be.

652
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: He was seven pounds ten ounces. Oh that's big for

653
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: a first baby. It's a big but I was eight pounds.

654
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: My sister's baby were nine pounds, so I was like,

655
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: those to me were big babies, right, Like nine pounds

656
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: were big. So I was like, oh, he's under eight pounds.

657
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't that big. But that being said, he's grown

658
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: really fast, so she he's probably almost fourteen pounds now. Wow.

659
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: Ready he's in the pile and height right right, So

660
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's a big boy. But you know,

661
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: he's hungry. And I have a really lovely baby nurse

662
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: who is obviously it's her specialty to know what to

663
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: do with babies, and for me because someone who I

664
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: felt like I'm maternal and kind of like naturally know

665
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: what to do some things I didn't know. Um, one

666
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: of the things I would never have done is like

667
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: supplemented with formula, right because, UM, I would have this

668
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: thing like I can't give my baby formula. You know,

669
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: I can't give him so she had said me, he's hungry,

670
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: Like he's going to sleep longer through the night if you,

671
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, top him up, which was kind of hard

672
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: for me because I didn't love that idea. UM. I

673
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: think it's always hard for moms with anything when they

674
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: have something in their mind, like how they want something

675
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: to go, and you never know what's going to trigger you.

676
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: Like I was super triggered by formula to my sister

677
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: in law my other friend, Like, that's not a problem

678
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 1: for them. Just because you're giving formula doesn't negate that

679
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: you're giving them breast milk. Also, do you know what

680
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, it doesn't all of a sudden cancel out.

681
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't. But the thing that's happened to

682
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: me that I think it's an interesting thing to share

683
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: is helping. Well. The first I don't know six weeks,

684
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I was doing like the middle of the night feeding

685
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: and then getting up four hours later. He was quite

686
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: and he's always been pretty good. He's always gone like

687
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: three or four hours. So I've been tired, right, But

688
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I've like not been asked tired because I lovely help

689
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But as I started to add

690
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: in supplementing, right, like, I've not been getting up for

691
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: the middle of the night feed, which is funny because

692
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm still just trying to be tired. For two years,

693
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: I started up at six six thirty after I've had

694
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: like a whole night's sleep, and I'm still tired. Um.

695
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: But I've noticed that when he wakes up at six

696
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: three year seven to eat, he's not ravenous, right. So

697
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't realize it until today or yesterday that I

698
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't realize it would affect my my milk supply, and

699
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: my milk supply has gone down, which is then what's

700
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: changed my hormones and has made me a lot more

701
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: emotional and upset that I'm not having as much supply,

702
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: but also just emotionally. Um, you can affect your milk

703
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: supply when you start doing that. So and it's not

704
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: that I wasn't pumping, but I don't think I was

705
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: pumping as much. UM, And I realized I kind of

706
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: just probably need to do the middle of the night feed.

707
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: And you have to wait, what's important to you, Like

708
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm still tired of the morning, so it doesn't really

709
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: matter to me that if I might as well just

710
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: get up in the middle of the night to pump

711
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: or feed him, um, to keep my milk supply up.

712
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: It depends on what battle, like, like how how long

713
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: you can sustain that. Like I pumped the middle of

714
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: the night feed with Albe till he was like three

715
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: months old. And then I was like, I'm it's also

716
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: to crash the car, like I cannot do this, and

717
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: so I stopped pumping in the middle of the night. Um.

718
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: It ended up kind of simultaneously happening where he also

719
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: stopped waking up in the middle of the night, and

720
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: I would to speed him at seven am, and then

721
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: as the second head finished, I would pump because yeah,

722
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: because you're so full from going all night that I

723
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: would get like an additional bottle out after like a

724
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: breastfeed session. But you'll figure it out. He's only two months,

725
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: and I've realized like, yeah, for me, it's a little

726
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: too early for me to not have that like supply

727
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: that I want. So I'm trying to get my milk

728
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: supply back up again. So we'll see how that goes.

729
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: But um, you can. Yeah, it's you'll It'll go down

730
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: and up. Breastfeeding is a full time job. So now

731
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: you've got three breastfeeding, being a mom, and also all

732
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: of your other ship. So you'll start to know, like, oh,

733
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: I didn't drink enough water today, because I'll have a

734
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: like I'll have a really low day and'd be like,

735
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: have I drinking any water? That's why the breast milk

736
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: is based in water. That's good to know because I

737
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: don't think I'm drinking enough water too. You know, you

738
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: drink some water. And also I mean for me, it sucks,

739
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: but breastfeeding and dieting do not go hand in hand.

740
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, carry people who breastbed like I have friends

741
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: who are like the minute they started doing cardio and

742
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: was gone much gone. Because also waters leaving your body,

743
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: it sucks. Yeah, I haven't done any really working out

744
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: there a lot of walking, but also just running running

745
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: around a little bit too much, which is just doing

746
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: too much visiting too many people, Like I think the

747
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: exhaustion has lowered everything. So um, it's definitely affected things

748
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: and it's made it's bumped me out. So now I'm like, Okay,

749
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: that bums me out, So I have to that dotting

750
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: need to make important more of a priority. You're gonna

751
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: get a priority, and it's for a little bit and

752
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: then you'll adjust again. Also, you're in this sort of

753
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: window where he'll start eating food at six months and

754
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: you'll I know it's a lot, it's crazy, but you'll

755
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: start to feel less pressure about your supply because he's

756
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: going to be getting calories from a lot of different

757
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: things and your milk supply will go down. Yeah. Um,

758
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: how do you feel getting into body image stuff like

759
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: being in Hollywood being famous and and going through I mean,

760
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird that you went through all these

761
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: body changes when all the spotlighting caps were kind of

762
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: on you. Although I just saw you an American idol

763
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: and you look thank you, Oh my god, Adam, and

764
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: I just watched you an American idol. Oh my god,

765
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: You're so cute. Well that was fun because it was

766
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: just fun to get out of the house and like

767
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: have hair and makeup and put on a pretty dress

768
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But you know, for me, because

769
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: COVID was so crazy during that, especially December November December,

770
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: when I was really the most pregnant and feeling pretty

771
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: good because um, that last time master, I had a

772
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: lot of energy. I didn't really you know, I didn't

773
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: really get to wear a bunch of I wasn't really

774
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: worried about fitting into stuff, you know. Um and uh, like,

775
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: I've just realized that the extra weight that I put

776
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: on through like the pregnancy isn't going to really come

777
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: off until I stopped breastfeeding. Like some people say the opposite,

778
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: like you'll fall off of you with breastfeed I'm like, actually,

779
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: I feel like everything's being You're like nodding your head,

780
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: going no way. I have a very small handful of

781
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: women who breastfed and more thinner than they ever were

782
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: be where they got pregnant, and fuck those ladies. And

783
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about them because I said this to

784
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: their face. Me and the rest of the world. The

785
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: main stop breastfeeding three months after all of a sudden,

786
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: your body is like, I don't know what that is

787
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: but I I had a I couldn't lose the last

788
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 1: fifteen until I stopped breasting, right, yeah, and that's gonna

789
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: happen to me. Where I was before I got pregnant,

790
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: it is about fifteen pounds up from where I am,

791
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, Okay, it's just not gonna go away. Color,

792
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: stop bread, but you look beautiful. And also I don't

793
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: even know what you're talking about. But okay, so I

794
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: wanted to ask, how have you been feeling in your

795
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: post pregnancy body? Um, you know, it hasn't bothered me

796
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: at all. In my mind post pregnancy, I've never felt

797
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: like more patient and more kind to myself because I

798
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: think I'm yeah, it's really nice. Um, because i think

799
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm just in awe of what my body and our

800
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: bodies as women do. And I'm also just so obsessed

801
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: with something other than myself, right, I mean, like I'm

802
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: in love with something other than my hair and my

803
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: makeup and my clothes that at my fashion, clothes that

804
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: I want to wear. It's just like I don't care.

805
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: I want to, you know, I want to like look nice,

806
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: but if I don't fit into my size sixteens, you know,

807
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: like or even my twenty seven jeans, like I will

808
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: eventually or maybe I won't um or if I really

809
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: want to, I can, you know, So it's just not

810
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: today and it's maybe not tomorrow. But I really struggled

811
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: with my first trimester. I don't know why it was

812
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: so hard for me, because I look back at the

813
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: pictures of my like fifteen weeks, you know, there's like

814
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: a little tiny bump, and I'm like, oh my god,

815
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: you were so hard on yourself. Not because of the bump,

816
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: but I'm getting weight everywhere else, and I'm gonna be

817
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: one of those pregnant women that faces get huge and

818
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: their arms get heavy. And I gained fifteen pounds of

819
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: actual fat. It's like not a big deal. The first

820
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: trimester is really hard, I think in that way because

821
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: you feel like shit and you're eating like ship oh

822
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: my gosh, to feel better, you know what I mean,

823
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: because you're so nauseous and so you're just living on

824
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: bread and cheese or that's what I do. You just

825
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: feel gross, you don't feel yourself, you feel flu like,

826
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: you feel nauseous. The first trimester started to feel better.

827
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: Second trimester, I didn't feel as well as I wanted to,

828
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, as quickly as I wanted to um. And

829
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: I went back to work, which was really interesting. Yeah,

830
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: we were let's talk about that. So the net, it's Netflix, right,

831
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: and I'm on this show called well, I I say, was,

832
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: but I am on a show until I hear further notice, yeah,

833
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: called Country Comfort And you were pregnant while you shot?

834
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: How did that feel? It was? It was interesting because

835
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: I was the first four episodes, was right before the pandemics.

836
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't pregnant. I was like very lean, very thin, um.

837
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: And then I felt like most people during the pandemic,

838
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: even though I had an excuse I was pregnant, like

839
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: kind of came back and had gained like fifteen pounds,

840
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: so I was a little bit like worried. But then

841
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: at the same time I wasn't you know, um. But

842
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: the costume designer was incredible and it was kind of

843
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: fun to hide it. And the funny thing is, like

844
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: I was just I saw a girlfriend who is fifteen

845
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Speaker 1: weeks pregnant last night and she just popped right and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's so cute. You think you popped right?

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00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Like because I was the same way, Like I thought

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Speaker 1: that I had popped, and I was like really showing

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00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: and stuff. And if you watch the show, which I

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00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: would hope you do, how they recommend, yes, everybody watch.

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00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: It's just such a cute show. It's really sweet. Um,

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00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: I like look back at episode five, six, seven, it's

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00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: not until like maybe eight, nine, ten, usually ten episodes

854
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: that you start to like, oh, yeah, I could see that,

855
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: but my mind thought that I was so much bigger

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00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: than I was. Um, And did you choose to get

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00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: pregnant in once the pandemic hit? I think a lot

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00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: of people probably did, because I know some people who yeah,

859
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: because I was just like, you're always trying to find

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00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: this this women have the struggle of if they want

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: to have a career of wins the perfect time and

862
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: there really is no perfect time. But um, I was

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00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: able to take a break from the show, get pregnant,

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Speaker 1: and then um finish out the show and not have

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00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: it like completely up and everything like make it really

866
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: difficult for everyone to shoot. So UM, I was really

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Speaker 1: happy that it worked out the way it did. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, I got to be in my little

869
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: COVID bubble and just be pregnant and Rebecca's yoga class

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00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: I met some great girls. It was really important because

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00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in this little vacuum and

872
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't get to share my pregnancy

873
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: with my friends and go to lunch and were cute

874
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: outfits and things like that. I mean, I know it

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00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: sounds in the scheme of what people are really struggling

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00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: with during COVID seems sort of stupid, but um, but

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00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: that was my you know, that was my reality. Also,

878
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: like if you're only going to do it a handful

879
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: of times in your life, like I don't know how

880
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: many kids are gonna have, but like I would love

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00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: that more. But I don't know if that's gonna work.

882
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna get your I feel I

883
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: feel it. I gotta wait till this kid starts like

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Speaker 1: crawling and walking and see how zen I am. Because

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00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: this is the stage that I think it is easy

886
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: because they're just they sleep, they eat, they poop, they

887
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: like their blobs and they're just so cute. And to me,

888
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: it's more work as they get older, so we'll see, Well,

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00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: it's just different, it's different kind of work. So I

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Speaker 1: can't before I let you go any words of wisdom

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00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: or advice for a pregnant woman right now listening, or

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00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: you know women with newborns. Yeah, okay, and I learned

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00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: this from my lovely baby nurse. Um, so everyone is

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00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: fearful of that first poop, okay, especially after vaginal birth, right,

895
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: but not like women who have C section. It's a

896
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: little different situation. But my advice is to make this

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00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: thing called prune tea. You take a bunch of prunes

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00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: that are in you know, the one you come into package.

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00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: You put them in a pot of water. You boil

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00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: them down for like an hour or two. You know,

901
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: you almost like making cranberry cranberry sauce. This is really

902
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: important and my mouth is on the job. I've never

903
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: heard this, and this is brilliant. It's brilliant and it's

904
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: so delicious. The tea gets to be a dark own color,

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00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: kind of like poop. And um. You put up like

906
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: three or four prunes at the bottom of your tea

907
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: and you make sure it's warm. When you drink it,

908
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: the tea should get really sweet. Um. The prunes will

909
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: be just like this mushy stuff at the bottom. It's

910
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: like the treat at the bottom of your tea. Drink

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00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: it morning and night, and I'm telling you you have

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00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: the smoothest poop you've ever had, which is the biggest miracle,

913
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: because when you've pushed as long as you pushed and

914
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: then you're expected to like push your first poop out,

915
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: you are so scared that you're going to do damage. Yeah,

916
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Speaker 1: of course, it's very like the people with my sisters,

917
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Speaker 1: Like I fully remember fully remember screaming. It was so

918
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: painful and I just didn't have that experience, and I'm

919
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 1: really grateful. Prune ty geene tea and take your because

920
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: they give you a they give you a call as yeah,

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Speaker 1: at the hospital, and I recommend just taking it and

922
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: then prune tea morning and night and you can do

923
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: that for several weeks, like because you know, it takes

924
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: a while for your system to kind of get reacclimated.

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00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's my little bit of advice. It's not

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Speaker 1: as like you know, world lady, It's so practical, which

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Speaker 1: is what we need. Yes, Cat, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on Katie's Crib. Thank you for all of

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Speaker 1: your stories and experiences. I feel like as women together

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00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: and moms, it's just always so helpful just telling getting

931
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: on here and telling honest, true stories and we're all

932
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: in this together, and I'm so happy for you. Thank

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00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: you and Renny. I can't wait to meet him. I

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Speaker 1: want your viewers to know I wish I could like

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Speaker 1: to play the video that you and Adam and the

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00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: whole family sent me and David the cutest because I

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00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: sent m Adam a video of them. Saw you really

938
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: are as lovely and shiny and bright as you are

939
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: off of this podcast and off camera because you, just

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00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: you and Adam are just you guys. Send me the

941
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Speaker 1: coolest fun maybe made me feel so good. Thank you.

942
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Speaker 1: Your kid is lucky as hell to have you as

943
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Speaker 1: a mom. That's how I feel. And also mommy and me.

944
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Speaker 1: Class on Friday is going to be going off. I

945
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be so gonna be going off. You guys,

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Speaker 1: we did it. It's happening. Season four is upon us,

947
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Speaker 1: and I want to hear from you. Please tell me

948
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: your thoughts, your comments, If there are topics you want

949
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: to talk about it, it's not too late. There are

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00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: guests that you want me to have on. I can

951
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: try my hardest to go get them. So send me

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, ideas, opinions, comments at Katie's Crib at Shonda

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