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Speaker 1: You got a month to add three core, huge things

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Speaker 1: right there, and then you also have a month to

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Speaker 2: By the end of season. You know, I may have

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Speaker 2: a half a dozen or more on that property, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not coming in and hanging them all at once.

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing them in. On hunts, I'm hanging them.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Back forty.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jake Hoefer, and this week, if you just got

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Speaker 4: a new farm, you just got permission, or even if

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Speaker 4: you've been hunting a farm, the same farm for a year.

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Speaker 4: After a year, you're going to get a fresh perspective

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Speaker 4: from eight experts on what they would do right before

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Speaker 4: the season with limited impact or maybe large impact projects.

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Speaker 3: Set yourself up for this fall real quick.

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Speaker 3: In the US.

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Speaker 4: Now, a lot of these things that we're going to

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Speaker 4: hear from the expert panel maybe things that seem obvious,

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Speaker 4: But I also think after finishing this episode, getting a

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Speaker 4: reset on hey, do I have all.

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Speaker 3: These things that I can do here for this fall?

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Speaker 3: Have I done it?

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Speaker 4: Also, if you haven't done the scouting, or maybe there's

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Speaker 4: a specific terrain feature that seemed to be very important,

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Speaker 4: or maybe you've been too nervous to go in and

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Speaker 4: make any impact on your farm because of the season

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Speaker 4: is getting closer. So you're going to get a lot

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Speaker 4: of different opinions and observations based off of our expert

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Speaker 4: panel of guests. And to kick things off, the question

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Speaker 4: is I just got access to a new farm.

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Speaker 3: What can I do now? And we're going to start

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Speaker 3: with Bill Winki.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I just closed on a new farm, or I

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Speaker 4: just got a new piece of private It's August twenty fifth,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of the big fun offseason projects are

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Speaker 4: off the table. Where do I start right now? It's

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Speaker 4: August twenty fifth.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's not much you can do from a improvement

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Speaker 5: perspective on that property. I would say the most important

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Speaker 5: number one, and then I wouldn't be probably number two.

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Speaker 5: Then for me, it would just be running the cameras

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Speaker 5: focus on that season. But if you can't hunt it effectively,

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Speaker 5: like you can't get into it from the different directions,

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Speaker 5: need to establish access first, and maybe that means talking

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Speaker 5: be able to hunt one into your property because you know,

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Speaker 4: One, would you go in and tear through the whole

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Speaker 3: Everything.

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Speaker 4: Would you go through in lay eyes basically on the

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Speaker 5: No, No, In fact, I used to hunt. Gosh, you'd laugh.

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Speaker 5: But when I was a kid growing up in the country,

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Speaker 5: I think I had sixty some different farms. I had

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Speaker 5: But anyway, I rarely scouted more than you know, five

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Speaker 5: And so I'd say no, I wouldn't go in unless

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Speaker 5: I have been a few stands in my whole life

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Speaker 5: checking his fence with a chainsaw on a tractor. Just

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Speaker 5: seen that work. But if you try to sneak in,

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Speaker 4: Okay, this real quick question. When you mentioned identifying different

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Speaker 5: Well, the best ones are the most obvious ones, and

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Speaker 5: a no brainer because they're very apparent when you're studying

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Speaker 5: way the land lazes. That's why the ditch is there,

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Speaker 5: and then the ditches between them, well, the bucks are

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Speaker 5: going to gain between those, you know, checking through the

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Speaker 5: that ditches is almost always, you know, kind of a

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Speaker 5: no brainer. Then you can get the wind to work

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Speaker 5: for you and you could use the ditch for access,

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Speaker 5: you know, very well undetected now if you use that ditch.

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Speaker 5: So those are really good ones to find too. I

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Speaker 5: love those. But there's tons of different options out there,

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Speaker 3: You guys have it.

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Speaker 4: That is Bill's perspective for someone that just got new

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Speaker 4: access on what you can do most of access trails

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Speaker 4: if you do go in and scout, make a lot

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Speaker 4: the best spot. So now we're going to get into

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Speaker 4: thirty days to make his farm the best possible and

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Speaker 4: a short window and the full project detailed list right now.

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Speaker 4: I just bought a brand new farm, or I just

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Speaker 4: not on a door. I got a piece of private ground.

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Speaker 4: It's August twenty seventh, Gune goes off. Time to go,

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Speaker 4: what do I start?

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Speaker 1: You can make some exciting things happen. So late August

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Speaker 1: funding season opens what October one?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you definitely could still plant things. I would

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Speaker 1: and I would quick get that seated down, like kill it,

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Speaker 1: set it down immediately, So there's your food for the year.

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Speaker 1: That it's not it's not ideal in that you know,

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Speaker 1: I do it the same day. And this is just

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Speaker 1: or maybe I'm running it, I'd go take a bunch

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Speaker 1: and I would find some things that, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: figure out what your undesirable trees are, your poor quality trees,

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Speaker 1: and just dump a few here and there to create

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Speaker 1: some structure. And that structure will last, you know, continually,

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Speaker 1: it'll definitely impact the whole fall. And by the time

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Speaker 1: even hunting season comes in a month later, they're going

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Speaker 1: to start using that as betting and structure and like

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Speaker 1: you know, even some of the brows that'll come down

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Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit will start to yeah, probably

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Speaker 1: not much, but they'll be definitely more betting, and that

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Speaker 1: dynamic will change by the fall. So that's really simple.

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Speaker 1: That's just two things. That's just quickly, add some food

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Speaker 1: if I can chain saw, some cover if I can.

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Speaker 1: I know that's being very specific, and there's more to

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Speaker 4: I think those projects he'd listed, whether it's permission farm,

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Speaker 8: And I'll go in there and I'll hedge clip everything

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Speaker 8: Everything I do is based on a northwest wind north

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Speaker 8: The thermals, because the thermals will screw you worse than

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Speaker 2: be hanging those to get an inventory of the bucks

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00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 2: that are on the property, doing everything I can to

440
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: make up for lost time, and doing it as quickly

441
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: as possible. I'm not going to be going and scouting

442
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: multiple times. That one trip through is going to be

443
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: to learn the terrain, to get those cameras out to

444
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 2: find potential stand sites. Then I'm going to be waiting

445
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 2: to see what my cameras tell me as to how

446
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: I proceed. If I can put a food pot in,

447
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be wanting to do that immediately. You know,

448
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: September first is the magical date for fall plots across

449
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: much of the Midwest. I know, the guys up north,

450
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 2: I want to get them in sooner than that. The

451
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: guys to the south may still have some time, but

452
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: that's kind of the sweet spot for much of us,

453
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: or much of the Midwest for most of us.

454
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 7: So that's how I would approach property.

455
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: When you walk that farm for the first time. Maybe

456
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 4: you saw them on a gas station and you've been

457
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 4: hoping to run into them, and hey, can I you

458
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 4: might mind if I hunt that farm you never walked before.

459
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 4: That first time you go in there, you mentioned looking

460
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 4: for train, uh that may move to your old sign.

461
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: How fast are you actually going through that farm? Because

462
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 4: you and I imagining you probably take your time because

463
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 4: that's your one time. So I just want to make

464
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: that really clear where they hear fast urgency. Okay, now

465
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 4: I have to burn through this farm and I don't know.

466
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: You know, they don't make notes, they don't do what

467
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: are some things that you do?

468
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm taking my my phone on my on X app.

469
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mark potential pre stand locations. I love to

470
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: drop pins, and every time I drop a pin, I'm

471
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: gonna be making notes. You know, this would be good

472
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: during the rut. I'm gonna need a northwest wind. I'm

473
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: going to access you know, across an open cornfield. Gonna

474
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 2: be a better morning spot than the evening spot. So

475
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: every and when I put a camera up, you know,

476
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mark mark that location. I'm just gonna use

477
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: that app to mark everything that I can as I

478
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: make my way across that property.

479
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 7: That way, I don't forget anything.

480
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: And then if a true target buck does show up,

481
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: a buck I want to kill shows up on camera, boom.

482
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: I've got all this intel right there on my phone

483
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: where I can take advantage of it and not have

484
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: to go back and refresh my memory. Oh yeah, I remember,

485
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: now I did see that tree. I mean, I'm going

486
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: to be taking spot.

487
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have I stand face this direction exactly everything.

488
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be saying, you know, there's a pin

489
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 2: oak tree halfway up the ridge where the deer are

490
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: coming off of the ridge. That's the tree I want

491
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: my standing. I might even take flagging tape as well

492
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 2: to mark the tree, but typically my notes are going

493
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: to be detailed enoughing well, once I get to that

494
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: spot with a stand on my back, I'm gonna remember.

495
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: You know.

496
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: The other thing is I'm going to be detailing things like, uh,

497
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: what I need to bring in so when I come

498
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: to hang this stand. You know a lot of times

499
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to do a hang and hunt. I'm going

500
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: to come in with end season with my bow in hand,

501
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: Novic's tree, stand on my back with climbing sticks and

502
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: I'm going to note that need to clear a shooting

503
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: lane to the south, so you know, I may trim

504
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: a few branches, put my stand up, see if I

505
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: need to trim more. Hopefully I don't, and start hunting

506
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: right away. Typically i'll do this midday and I will

507
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: put the stand up and I will sit the dark.

508
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: That's kind of yeah. I don't come in and I

509
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: see my target buck on camera. I don't come in

510
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: with six trees stands and you know, burger up the

511
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: whole property again. Getting all these stands in place, I

512
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: will carry them in on my back today. I'm going

513
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: to hunt each one. And you know, I may hunt

514
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: that stand two or three times before the wind switches

515
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: to where I can hunt another location on the farm.

516
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: And when that switch happens, I'll come in midday with

517
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: a another stand on my back and I'll leave the

518
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: original stand come in with another stand on my back.

519
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: And I think that's why it can be critical in

520
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: situations like that, the stands that you're going to have,

521
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: you don't want to be or I don't want to

522
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: be coming in with a stand that's noisy exactly with

523
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: a chain or you know, buckles rattling, banging on the

524
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: metal and everything. That's where I think the Noviac stand

525
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 2: really shines. You can come in and get that up

526
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: real quiet, real easy, and if you feel you're confident

527
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: nobody's going to steal it, leave it in place. This

528
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: is what I do. And by the end of season,

529
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, I may have a half a dozen or

530
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: more on that property, but I'm not coming in and

531
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: hanging them all at once. I'm bringing them in on

532
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: hunts and hanging them there.

533
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: You have it.

534
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 4: Next up we have Thomas Milsner, and Thomas works a

535
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: lot on a permission farm, but works with a lot

536
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: of different folks and he's putting together detailed plans short term,

537
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: long term, and you're going to hear some of those

538
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 4: things are right now.

539
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: I just got a new piece of private ground.

540
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: I bought it, I got a lease, knocked on a door,

541
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 4: and got permission on a piece of private ground. It's

542
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 4: August twenty fifth, too late to do a lot of

543
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 4: the exciting off season projects, the off season scouting. So

544
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 4: where do I start to get a leg up for

545
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: you know what's coming two months from now.

546
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 10: There's two perspectives here. One is going to be the

547
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 10: long term. One's going to be the short term. And

548
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 10: if your property situation itself is long term, you bought

549
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 10: it long term lease with some flexibility on what you

550
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 10: can actually do, and then I'm going to look at

551
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 10: it completely differently from a property that I have permission

552
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 10: to hunt this fall, right or you know, hidden piece

553
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 10: of public ground or something like that. Right, So there's

554
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 10: two completely different perspectives.

555
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 6: If I'm focused.

556
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 10: On the long term, in my long term goals, then

557
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 10: I'm going to play it a little bit safer. I

558
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 10: really just kind of want to sit back and see

559
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 10: what is this property producing, and how are the deer

560
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 10: operating on this property without the influence of human pressure.

561
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 10: That's the biggest thing, because if you're completely new to

562
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 10: a property and you go in there and you just

563
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 10: start hunting how you hunted the last property or you know,

564
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 10: or you're just diving into try and figure things out,

565
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 10: even in August, especially in August, then you're just going

566
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 10: to stir up the pot, you know. So the way

567
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 10: I kind of describe it sometimes is you have all

568
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 10: these different just visualize a bunch of different colors in

569
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 10: a pot, right, and they all kind of like settle

570
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 10: in it on spots. But if you stir it up,

571
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 10: now it's just all brown. You can't really decipher what

572
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 10: all these things are. You let it settle in. Okay,

573
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 10: there's you know, the does are betting over here, bucks

574
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 10: are coming from over here, you know, whatever it might be,

575
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 10: and you'll figure that out because all those things change

576
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 10: throughout the season. So you really got to approach it

577
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 10: from that long term mindset, starting in the summer, moving

578
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 10: to the end. And a lot of times I'll actually

579
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 10: say just to clients, so they don't do any habitat

580
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 10: projects the first year, even if it's July. You know,

581
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 10: maybe there's some easy access spots we can throw in

582
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 10: a food plot, or more often than not these days,

583
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 10: there was an existing food plot out of property. So yeah,

584
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 10: let's go in there, let's pull our soil samples quick,

585
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 10: throw down a good fall blend, and then we'll regroup

586
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 10: and figure out how to make things.

587
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 9: Better and build the gar in year out.

588
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 10: But for right now, as far as deer movement, we're

589
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 10: not going to go and make major changes. We don't

590
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 10: need to go and hang a ton of stands. Obviously,

591
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 10: we can go scout some pinch points, throw some cameras up,

592
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 10: throw a stand up, pretty simple, right, but always always,

593
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 10: always scout from the outside in and hunt from the

594
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 10: outside in, and it just works out that way really well. Anyways,

595
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 10: if you're hunting the whole season and not just waiting

596
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 10: until the rut right in the early season, you're those

597
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 10: deer are more app to come to those bigger food sources, right,

598
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 10: So why pressure and why put pressure on their betting

599
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 10: areas if they can come to you right and scout

600
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 10: from the outside end, hunt from the outside end. So

601
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 10: you're on the outskirts hunting these bigger food sources. Maybe

602
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 10: a transition plot leading to those food sources where you're

603
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 10: keeping all that pressure off, and then as the season progresses,

604
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 10: maybe you inch in little by little. But what I

605
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 10: always tell everyone is don't be afraid to get aggressive,

606
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 10: but understand the risk versus reward of those situations. So

607
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 10: with that mindset, if you're a short term guy, if

608
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 10: you just got permission to this piece and it's only

609
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 10: for this year, and you don't know is there you

610
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 10: know some neighbor's grandson that still has access to hunt

611
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 10: this property in November when you've been keeping the pressure off,

612
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 10: this guy is going to show up and hunt one

613
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 10: day without telling anyone, because the person that gave you

614
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 10: permission doesn't even own the land. To just connect, you know,

615
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 10: there's all sorts of weird things that happen. Then I'm

616
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 10: going to get a lot more aggressive. I'm going to

617
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 10: go in you know, I'm still going to start with

618
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 10: food sources, especially given the time of the year. Starting

619
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 10: with food sources, finding you know, potentially a community scrape

620
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 10: around the edge of a big food source. Don't expect

621
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 10: to see deer there during daylight very often, but it's

622
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 10: more of an inventory thing. What's in the area, Where

623
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 10: where are they coming from. I'm starting to put together

624
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 10: these theories. You know, where are they betting, where are

625
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 10: they feeding? I know they're feeding here at nine o'clock

626
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 10: at night, but where they start? And you know, where

627
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 10: can I intersect them? And then I'm going a little

628
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 10: bit deeper scouting, you know, trying to pick a rainy

629
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 10: day or windy day. Got a camera in my backpack,

630
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 10: throwing some cameras up. I'm getting more aggressive, but I'm

631
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 10: still mindful of my pressure. Right So I'm going to

632
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 10: take a I'm gonna take a shot early in the

633
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 10: season I'm going to get in there, I'm going to scout,

634
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 10: and then I'm going to back off. But while I'm

635
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 10: in their early season trying to find an early season

636
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 10: buck and make an aggressive move on him, I'm anticipating

637
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 10: what things are going to look like come October November

638
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 10: time for him for the rut, and maybe I'm hanging

639
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 10: on a couple cameras then if I'm you know, in

640
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 10: the depths of the property. But more often than not,

641
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 10: I'm not going deep into a property if I don't

642
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 10: have an intimate relationship with a topography and the habitat,

643
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 10: because I know that I'm going to lose that game

644
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 10: nine times out of ten when that buck knows that

645
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 10: property so well it hasn't been pressured and then I

646
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 10: go in there all willy nilly. So the biggest thing

647
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 10: is short term, long term mindset. But long term, I'm

648
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 10: really trying to learn that property without me stirring that

649
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 10: pot so that I can come back after the season

650
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 10: and put together a really good plan and start breaking

651
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 10: that plan down into a timeline of you know, priority

652
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 10: projects for that for improvement of that property. And maybe

653
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 10: you don't need to do a whole lot. Maybe it's

654
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 10: just improve a couple betting areas, get your stands out,

655
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 10: improve a couple of pinch points, and improve that access.

656
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 10: You know, maybe there's a lot of work that needs

657
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 10: to be done, but I almost want to kind of

658
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 10: get a feel for what's going on in that property.

659
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: Something that's stuck with me with this segment with Thomas,

660
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: to start from the outside and scout in and be

661
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 4: very mindful that if you did, if you were lucky

662
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: enough to buy your first farm or a farm, or

663
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: a new farm, or a long term lease or a

664
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: long term permission farm, having a long term perspective is

665
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: obviously paramount for a long term success. And I think

666
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: Thomas nailed it here on the head regarding that. Next up,

667
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: we have Jeff Sturgis, So let's get right into it. Okay,

668
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: I just got a new piece of private ground. I

669
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: might have knocked on a door. I might have bought

670
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: it and just closed on it. It's August twenty fifth,

671
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: you know, the gun, the gun is getting really close

672
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: for opening day. What can I do now? It's brand

673
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: new and I don't have any stands, I don't have

674
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: any cameras out.

675
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: What do I do? Where do I start?

676
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 11: You know, the first thing we did and we bought

677
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 11: our property in June, we could start doing things. But

678
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 11: you know, like I said, I wasn't even I wasn't

679
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 11: even the core area of our property until after the

680
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 11: hunting season. The majority of it, about seventy percent of

681
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 11: the land I never even looked at because we couldn't

682
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 11: go in it and spoke to here. So I'm looking

683
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 11: at specific locations that I can hunt. I know that

684
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 11: I can get in and out of this funnel. It's

685
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 11: not just this is a good spot, it's is this

686
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 11: a good spot and I can get it and out?

687
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: Is a huntable?

688
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 9: And what is that game plan going to be?

689
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 11: Is it going to be a morning stand because it's

690
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 11: more closely related to betting, or is this an afternoon

691
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 11: stand it's more closely related to food source. Then I

692
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 11: can start to identify a plan of this is how

693
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 11: access that morning stand away from the food. This is

694
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 11: how I can hunt near food in the afternoon. This

695
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 11: is a morning stand, this is an afternoon stand. If

696
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 11: it's a morning stand and likely not hunt that towards

697
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 11: until towards the rut, then what I'm looking at is

698
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 11: then I'm going in and identifying individual trees that I

699
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 11: can hunt, and I'm going to place those cameras at

700
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 11: those stand locations exactly where I expect to shoot them

701
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 11: on the trail, I expect to shoot them in the location.

702
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 9: I expect to shoot them.

703
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 11: And I'm going to add mox scrapes to all those

704
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 11: stand locations, something free and simple and make vertical will

705
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 11: I looked this morning for some reason, but it was

706
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 11: sixty two mox scrape videos that I have on my

707
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 11: YouTube channel, and so it's in a playlist. Sixty two

708
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 11: mox scrape videos. Feel free to enjoy but at nauseum.

709
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 11: But they I've been doing it for a long time

710
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 11: and it's free use no sense. But I'm going to

711
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 11: put those at the stand location. I expect that buck

712
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 11: to be shot in and around that mock scrape location

713
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 11: somewhere on that trail, and then that's a great spot

714
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 11: to haking a camera at the same time too. Now,

715
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 11: if I want to enhance it, we've installed a lot

716
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 11: of holes as late as early October. It's for a

717
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 11: rut on end of October November. If you're in a

718
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 11: dry area, people always say, well, I have a creek,

719
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 11: we have running water, and springs down in the valleys

720
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 11: and most of our location and a our entire property

721
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 11: in Minnesota, and same with the Wisconsin reached on.

722
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 9: It's where the deer are traveling.

723
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 11: So if deer are bedded in dry areas and they're

724
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 11: on the way to a food source and is dry

725
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 11: in between, great spot for waterhole. If there's dry bedding

726
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 11: areas and you put a water hole in between for

727
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 11: morning rut stands, awesome spot. Funnel cruising stands as well.

728
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 11: As you can picture a block moving from point A

729
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 11: to point B and he can't get water in between them,

730
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 11: it's a perfect spot for a waterhole, even if he

731
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 11: has water one hundred yards opposite direction, because then you

732
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 11: can keep them within the same movement. He has water there,

733
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 11: why is he going to go one hundred yards out

734
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 11: of his way.

735
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 6: And come back.

736
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 11: Typically, if he gets out of his bedding area at

737
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 11: four in the afternoon's getting dark at five, and he

738
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 11: goes one hundred yards off your property to go get water,

739
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 11: he's not coming back. They're efficient creatures, they're not wasting

740
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 11: two hundred yards of travel. So give them that water hole.

741
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 11: And that's one of the things a quick install we

742
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 11: use three hundred galon rubber maids one hundred and fifty

743
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 11: gallon does and it's a lot easier to shovel one

744
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 11: hundred and ten gallon cheap one from TSSE you use

745
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 11: to get those for under one hundred dollars. It's one

746
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 11: hundred and ten gallons that ends up about twenty four

747
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 11: inches deep. I like that depth to size ratio because

748
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 11: it holds water longer, it doesn't evaporate. You don't want

749
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 11: one of the big shallow ponds you like a kiddie

750
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 11: pool or something like that. So that's another quick enhancement

751
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 11: to your hunt that once you have those stand locations

752
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 11: narrowed down, you've narrowed down where a morning stand is afternoon,

753
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 11: you've narrowed down your access. Added some mox scrapes your

754
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 11: stand locations are in that water hole can be the

755
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 11: perfect sweetener. And when we're putting, people say, well, do

756
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 11: I use a waterhole or a mox grape? Always using

757
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 11: mox scrape every stand location, no more, no less. But

758
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 11: then a waterhole would be in addition to that off

759
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 11: the side to the point when we have camera on

760
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 11: that then the smack scrape is either in the background

761
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 11: or the foreground, water hole vice versa. And get this,

762
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 11: I get both of them in one picture, so I

763
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 11: can monitor both of them for the entire year.

764
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: I found Jeff's perspective on this to be really interesting

765
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 4: on how careful he has been in the past when

766
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 4: he has fallen into this category. And what's great about

767
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: this is so many different perspectives from so many interesting

768
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: hunters that have a lot of the same things that overlap,

769
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: but little nuances, and so hopefully you're picking up these

770
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: small little things and you're figuring out what will apply

771
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: directly to you so you can make the next thirty

772
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 4: days as best as possible. Next step we have Steve

773
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: Hanson on what he would do and if he would

774
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: take on a large project this late end of the summer.

775
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: It's late August. You just got access to a new

776
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: piece of ground. What do you do and where do

777
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: you start?

778
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 12: Well, the first thing I try to figure out is

779
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 12: work on the access. You know, if if there's anything

780
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 12: you can do, whether that be mowing trails, you know,

781
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 12: just anything like that, even if it has to be

782
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 12: with a you know, a weed whip to go along

783
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 12: the edge of some crops. Just try to figure out

784
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 12: a way that you're going to be able to hunt

785
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 12: this or be able to access this to hunt. And

786
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 12: then assuming it's too late to do any food plots

787
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 12: where this farm's located, my next thing would be I'd

788
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 12: be trying to reach out to whoever that tenant is

789
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 12: on the farm, if there's crops on it, on the

790
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 12: odd chance that he would work with you and you

791
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 12: could buy a little bit of standing crop and give

792
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 12: yourself a permanent food source. You know, those would be

793
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 12: the first two things that I would be trying right away.

794
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 12: So then you know, then after that it would be

795
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 12: just you know, as many trail cameras as I can

796
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 12: set up and use any other way of scouting as possible,

797
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 12: like here in Iowa outside the season, we're able to

798
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 12: put some corn out near the cameras. I would be

799
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 12: pulling out all the stops trying to learn what deer

800
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 12: are there and kind of you know, fast track it

801
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 12: to that. That would be the first couple steps that

802
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 12: I would would take without a doubt.

803
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: Would you if you had the ability and idea to

804
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 4: you know, with a being brand new and let's say

805
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: you did buy it, would you go in and try

806
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: to do any over major over overhauls like a new

807
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: pretty hefty trail system, or man, it's late August. I know,

808
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: the guy with the dozer can get in there this

809
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: week and we can get the food plot in the

810
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: first week of September. Would you do anything like that

811
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: this first go around?

812
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, if it was.

813
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 12: An owned property, I absolutely would if you had the

814
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 12: ability to work that quickly, and that would be the

815
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 12: big question. If it was an owned piece where you

816
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 12: had the control of the property, I think you still

817
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 12: have just a little tiny bit of time to do that.

818
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 12: I know the the year that I shot that two fourteen,

819
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 12: we dozed and cleared that food plot Labor Day weekend,

820
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 12: so that, yeah, we had picture.

821
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 9: We got pictures of that buck and then went back.

822
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 12: And altered our stand or our food plot setup up

823
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 12: and that's where inevitably ended up killing them. And that

824
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 12: was a food plot planted like the first week of

825
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 12: September where we did all the dozing and clearing Labor

826
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 12: Day weekend.

827
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 9: So there's definitely still time.

828
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: Okay, that's that's good. Now, what if it's a knock

829
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: on door permission? Would you go in and what would

830
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: be your strategy for potentially identifying stand locations and as

831
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: far as identifying what this farm, what time frame in

832
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: the year this farm might be good too, I think

833
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 4: is another part. So we're just we're talking about imaginary

834
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: piece of ground. So if you know, just for a

835
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: guy that just randomly gets a piece you mentioned, you know,

836
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: do some quick scouting the weed whacker and clean up

837
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: access is a big one. But is there any other

838
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: key things that someone should do on their first go

839
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: around going into a brand new place?

840
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 5: You know?

841
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 12: The one of the simplest ones is I would get

842
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 12: a copy of a lie to our map. A lie

843
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 12: to our map is is like ground or penetrating where

844
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 12: vegetation penetrate radar. That's going to show every little nook

845
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 12: and cranny of that farm. And I would be using

846
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 12: that to try to identify some rut funnels so that

847
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 12: you don't have to walk the entire place. So I

848
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 12: would do that, and I would probably pick the three

849
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 12: most prominent rut funnels, and then I would, you know,

850
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 12: put some boots on the ground and field scout those spots.

851
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 12: And then but when I went in there, i'd be

852
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 12: ready to set them up because you've really at this

853
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 12: point got to start limiting your amount of intrusion into

854
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 12: those interior areas. So I would be looking for three

855
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 12: two to three different wind direction key rut funnel spots,

856
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 12: and my first tool to do that would be a

857
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 12: light our map so some of the app, you know,

858
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 12: different apps can get you that. You can also get

859
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 12: it right from your county from like our nrcs. They

860
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 12: print those off for me. At times we can print

861
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 12: them ourselves through different avenues, but they're super super helpful.

862
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 12: You can do like I like the black and white

863
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 12: hills what they call hill shade. You can get a

864
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 12: color hill shade. It's all whatever you're used to looking at.

865
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, honest.

866
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 4: Actually this added light r to their app to click,

867
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: you click topo and then on the base maps and

868
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 4: you switch a lighter on, which is really nice.

869
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 3: To your point, be really nice.

870
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 12: That's a great that's a great feature that's going to

871
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 12: be super helpful, all on one platform.

872
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

873
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think here, just because I know there's this.

874
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: There's if someone just randomly gets a new piece, you know,

875
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: whether it's a lease or they're closing on a farm,

876
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: or they knock on a door and they get permission

877
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: there's just so much excitement and anticipation all bundled in

878
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: right before the season two especially. Let me run this

879
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: quick scenario by you for someone that just knocked on

880
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: a door because they essentially heard there was a big

881
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: deer in the area and they wanted to get in

882
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: that ball game. And with that comes excitement of Okay,

883
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: now I have an opportunity of maybe tagging this specific buck.

884
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: But on the flips out of it.

885
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: You know, throughout this series, a lot of folks have

886
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: said that they wanted to be really patient, methodical, even

887
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 4: leading up into the season, of not pressuring a farm

888
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: too much. Where do you follow on that scale with

889
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: it being late August and you just got access and

890
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: you don't want to blow up you know, this potential

891
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: mature buck that you're after.

892
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know the fact that you just the fact

893
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 12: you already know there's a mature buck on the property

894
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 12: or in the neighborhood, so you're way ahead of the

895
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 12: curve there. You're not trying to find one. If the

896
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 12: time of year you're gonna you think you have the

897
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 12: best chance of taking you know, if harvestingham would be

898
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 12: late October early November, I'm going to look for what

899
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 12: food sources are probably still going to be there then

900
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 12: for that Halloween time, places where I can start out

901
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 12: hunting field edges and gaining a little bit more knowledge

902
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 12: of the area while i'm hunting, you know, because that's

903
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 12: those are the first areas that you're going to start

904
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 12: to see rubs and scrapes around the field edges and stuff,

905
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 12: and you still don't have to penetrate deeper into there.

906
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 12: Once you hunt that, hopefully you get some eyes on

907
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 12: the buck that you're after. And that's when I would

908
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 12: kind of switch into that first week in November and

909
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 12: start start being very very aggressive because obviously, if you

910
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 12: know about this buck, somebody else probably does too, and

911
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 12: you know, that's that's why you can't really be super

912
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 12: hands off and let him come to you. I would

913
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 12: use the last week of October sort of as my

914
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 12: hunting slash scouting, with the plan of having a few

915
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 12: quick setups with me and moving right in as soon

916
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 12: as I get the intel that I need. So it's

917
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 12: kind of a it's yeah, it's kind of a oh,

918
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 12: a passive aggressive approach to hunting. You know, the first

919
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 12: week you're you're pretty passive hoping he comes to you

920
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 12: the second week, you have to go to him.

921
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, no, it'll be that'll be here before we

922
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: know it. So anyone that tunes in and this throughout

923
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: the season, a lot of things changed. Maybe you lose

924
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: a piece that you were planning on hunting right now,

925
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: or maybe you get one, and there's just a lot

926
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 4: of a lot of things that can happen, you know,

927
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 4: in the next four months.

928
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know a lot of times.

929
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 12: One thing that you know, kind of pushed me back

930
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 12: into What makes this question pretty relevant is we've had

931
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 12: years with EHD, or we've had a good scouting plan

932
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 12: lost the bucks that were after so even though we

933
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 12: had a great setup from June going forward, we had

934
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 12: to start over virtually in this late this is typically

935
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 12: when we have trouble with EHD, would be that kind

936
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 12: of mid mid August to early September. So it's a

937
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 12: very relevant question.

938
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: So there you have it. That's Steve's perspective.

939
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: And if you have a big project you've been kicking around,

940
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 4: or maybe you fall into this category, you still have

941
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: time to go make the big project, make the improvement

942
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: to make the season great, if you feel good about

943
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: the plan, and last but not least we have mister

944
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: Mark Kenyon to close out this episode to get his.

945
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: Opinion on a brand new farm. Where do you start?

946
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 6: And here we go?

947
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: All right, you just bought a new farm, you just

948
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 4: got a new lease, you just knocked on a door,

949
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: and you just got access. It's late August, all of

950
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: the preseason major prep projects may be behind us.

951
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 3: Where do I start?

952
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: Because I'm excited and nervous at the same time, I

953
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: want to make this happen.

954
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, So I am first starting with maps,

955
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 6: and I'm doing like a deep dive study of my

956
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 6: map at two levels. I'm doing a macro study, so

957
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 6: I'm zooming way out and I'm learning the neighborhood, what's

958
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 6: all around my property, How do other properties feed into

959
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 6: my property? How much deerb using the neighbors or the

960
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 6: neighbors neighbors, How does all that? How does my piece

961
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 6: of the puzzle fit to the larger picture? So I

962
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 6: really want to try to understand that. And then I'm

963
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 6: zooming in doing the micro map study, where I'm like

964
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 6: just focusing on my forty year whatever it is, and

965
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 6: really trying to as best as I possibly can with

966
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 6: the map identify likely food sources, likely, betting areas, likely

967
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 6: travel corridors, likely, pinch points of any kind. And I'm

968
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 6: pinning or circling or marking all of those key places

969
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 6: on the map and spending a lot of time thinking

970
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 6: that through. What's a lot of time, many nights, okay,

971
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 6: multiple nights or days around, just like studying and thinking

972
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 6: and like imagining all the possibilities, and like you know,

973
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 6: I'm looking at all the different I'm looking at cover,

974
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 6: I'm looking at topography, I'm looking at water, I'm looking

975
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 6: at maybe even soil type, or I'm looking at like

976
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 6: layers on Onyx where you can see where the oaks

977
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 6: are or where conifers are, and having vegetation types. I'm

978
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 6: definitely looking at crop rotations. So there's layers on a

979
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 6: lot of these apps now where you can see what

980
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 6: fields have been planted. So I would like to know, Okay,

981
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: where has corn been, where have beans been? What's the

982
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 6: likely rotation now this year? So I'm definitely looking to see,

983
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 6: you know, with like like Onyx or other apps probably

984
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 6: have a tool where you can see what fields were

985
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 6: planted and whether it's corn or beans or what that

986
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 6: rotation was. So I want to look at all of

987
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 6: those things to start thinking through where this deer might

988
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 6: be feeding, where they may be bedded, how they're getting

989
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 6: in between both, and that way, I have all of

990
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: this done ahead of time with my maps, I know

991
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 6: the key places. Now I can go in and do

992
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 6: a serious but kind of concentrate scouting exercise. So if

993
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 6: it's late August or early September, I am okay going

994
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 6: in and like intruding and seeing the place. But I

995
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 6: don't want to go overboard with it because my typical

996
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 6: rule of thumb is, if possible, I like to leave

997
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 6: any property that I'm hunting one undred percent alone for

998
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 6: at least thirty days before running season. If I get

999
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 6: so in this case, I'd be like right at that point.

1000
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: So it's like I go in like Labor Day weekend,

1001
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: and I've got one day and I'm gonna go in

1002
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 6: there and pound pavement, and I have this map, I

1003
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 6: have this plan, and I'm going to go and probably

1004
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 6: do the outside edge of the property, and I'm going

1005
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 6: to hit every one of these key points. So those

1006
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 6: key funnels, those key convergences, the key food sources betting

1007
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 6: area is the places that I think are hot spots.

1008
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 6: On the map, and I'm going to go on ground

1009
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 6: truth those places if they actually match up with what

1010
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 6: I thought they would, I want to understand like the

1011
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 6: pillars of this property. I'm gonna mark every little bit

1012
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 6: of data that I see along the way, So every trail,

1013
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 6: every scrape, every old rup, every masked tree, every you know,

1014
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 6: either a soft mass tree like an apple tree or

1015
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 6: a hard mask an oak tree, and mark all those things.

1016
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 6: I'm gonna mark every major entry into the property from

1017
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 6: the neighbors. I'm gonna be thinking through every topography future

1018
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna add notes like if I see like a

1019
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 6: super great looking vetting area on the slope, I'm gonna

1020
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 6: pin that and maybe add a few notes about what's there,

1021
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 6: what makes special. I want to learn and then be

1022
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 6: able to remember the party actionable like information from this

1023
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 6: all in that one day. I'm also gonna backpack the

1024
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 6: little cameras when I do this, so if I didn't

1025
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 6: you know, we talked on a previous episode about kind

1026
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: of doing something similar with trail cameras. I'm looking at

1027
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 6: kind of doing these two things together. So as I

1028
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 6: go and do this one day scouting run, I'm taking

1029
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 6: in my cameras with me. I'm setting them up so

1030
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 6: I can set them and forget them. So there's likely

1031
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 6: going to be what I'm gonna be setting up now

1032
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 6: if this is like sometime like just before the season,

1033
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 6: I'm setting up everything for hunting season information. So I'm

1034
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 6: less worried about setting something up to get summer pictures

1035
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 6: at this point because they're transitioning off their summer pattern

1036
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 6: into their fault pattern. So I'm setting up on scrapes

1037
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 6: or what I think will be scrapes. I'm setting up,

1038
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 6: you know, a place that I think will be eventually

1039
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 6: right funnels. I'm setting up in places that are close

1040
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 6: to bedding where I think deer will be transitioning out

1041
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 6: towards food. And again thinking about hunting season related intel.

1042
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 4: Are you prepping trees and picking trees where you pine

1043
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 4: on hunting or are you bringing any tree stands or

1044
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 4: are you pretty much fully a saddle guy in this scenario?

1045
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 6: Yep, in this scenario, I'm not prepping trees. I'm picking trees. Okay,

1046
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 6: So I will be going throughout this school process and

1047
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 6: picking And when I said I'm not prepping, I should,

1048
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 6: I will be mostly picking trees. I often have enough time,

1049
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: I will often have like a pull saw or yeah

1050
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 6: and so, and if I have time and I've gone

1051
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 6: through it did my full day, if there's like a

1052
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 6: handful of those trees that I picked as like high priority,

1053
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 6: and I have the time to go on there and

1054
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 6: just cut some lanes or just cut player it out

1055
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 6: enough you can get up in the tree nice and quietly,

1056
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 6: I'll do that. If I have a weekend, I can

1057
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 6: do that. In the second day, I'll do that too.

1058
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 6: But I'm not worried about going and prepping a bunch

1059
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 6: of trees anymore. I would rather just have a bunch

1060
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 6: of places like picked out. I was like, hey, this

1061
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 6: is pretty cool. I like this spy, like this spot,

1062
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: like this spot, and then come season I can go

1063
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 6: in there and hunt mobile with the saddle. And then

1064
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 6: what I think works really well is that you approach

1065
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 6: year one like that. You don't invest and double down

1066
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 6: on any one location with a big built up setup.

1067
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 6: And if you go in there and bring in a

1068
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 6: big ladder stand or bring in sticks, send up hang

1069
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 6: on and really strap it on their nice and carve

1070
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 6: out huge shooting lanes and all that kind of stuff,

1071
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 6: it's like an investment in that.

1072
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: Place, you became biased to that area.

1073
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 6: Bias to that place, you become like there's that like

1074
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 6: some Yes, now you've done all that work, you don't

1075
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 6: want to move. And I think that could be a

1076
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 6: huge mistake to go and like set up and invest

1077
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 6: in a place like that before you really know it.

1078
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 6: And so what you end up doing is you like

1079
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 6: made this purchase, and you're kind of like want to

1080
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 6: keep believing that purchase because he put in all this work,

1081
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 6: and then you're not willing to truly listen to what

1082
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 6: you've saw or learned about the area and make the

1083
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 6: small movement. So by having low investment on the front end,

1084
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 6: so again like just going in with a saddle and

1085
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 6: do very little majorly time investment, I don't feel bad

1086
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 6: when I hunt that spot. I'm like, oh, that's not

1087
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 6: quite right. I really need to be thirty yards that one.

1088
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 6: And so next time I go thirty yards that when

1089
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 6: I hunt it for a saddle, I'm like, oh, actually,

1090
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 6: you know, I need to.

1091
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 7: Be over here.

1092
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: And then I've done that. And now after that first

1093
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 6: year of hunting this new property, I've learned enough, I've

1094
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 6: tried enough things I wasn't scared or like in some

1095
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 6: way resistant to change. Now I know, okay, actually that

1096
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 6: oak there on the corner by the crossing, that is

1097
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 6: the spot. Now for a year two I will go

1098
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 6: fully prep that cut length, maybe put up sticks that

1099
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 6: stay up, something like that. But I'm doing it with

1100
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 6: a truly informed opinion rather than just my first gut

1101
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 6: instinct after having just just barely soft place.

1102
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: So that's how I was don in my first year

1103
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: when you said you would go in and map everything

1104
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: out this picture of forty yep, how many pins and

1105
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 4: annotations and notes would you have? And I guess even

1106
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: that's a twofold question before you go there? And then

1107
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 4: how many more are you adding when you're physically there?

1108
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: Obviously dependent on the features, but this a general idea

1109
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: so people can understand how detailed you're you know, really being.

1110
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would guess like before, so just looking at

1111
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 6: the map before going in, let's assume it's like a

1112
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 6: mix of egg and timber, a couple of little fields,

1113
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 6: a couple of fingers and movie. Yeah, that might be

1114
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 6: eight to twelve things that stood out in the map.

1115
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 6: Maybe I was like, Okay, I definitely want to go

1116
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 6: check that out. It could be way more. It might

1117
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 6: be a place is way less but somewhere that though

1118
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: I don't know ten to twenty eight to well, something

1119
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 6: like that. Probably that I was like, hey, check it out, interesting,

1120
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 6: and then you go out there for the day, and

1121
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 6: then you're probably at least doubling that with real stuff

1122
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 6: on the ground. It could be you know, I could

1123
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 6: walk out of there with twenty pins. I could walk

1124
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 6: out of there with thirty five pins. How much time

1125
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 6: do you take to organize those? Are you color coding them?

1126
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 6: Are you actually you know, yeah, I'm guilty. I'm guilty

1127
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 6: of this season the on xpin and they're like what

1128
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 6: was that? Yeah?

1129
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: And then there's times where I do take the times

1130
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: it'll be more detailed.

1131
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 6: I don't color code. I do try to icon code,

1132
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 6: so like I will have a trail camera icon, I'll

1133
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 6: have a buck icon of that icon of scrape icon, yep,

1134
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff, a stand icon. So that's how

1135
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 6: I organize them.

1136
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1137
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 6: Also one thing I'll do that first day or two

1138
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 6: is if I find a couple of those first few trees,

1139
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh this is interesting. If it's like thick,

1140
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 6: nasty stuff, I will walk and track the trail to it,

1141
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 6: so I know what the best quietest or easiest route

1142
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 6: into that tree is, because that's the thing, Like I'm

1143
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 6: not going to have pre prepped trails necessarily at this

1144
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 6: last minute. Yeah, it's a new place, but like that's

1145
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 6: another thing that it's a small thing just track in

1146
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 6: your walk there, but it can really help you when

1147
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 6: you go on it for the first time. That's another

1148
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 6: small thing all I at there.

1149
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. And

1150
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: it once again, you're excited. You just got this new

1151
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: place and you want to go in there and burn

1152
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: through it. But I think to your point once again,

1153
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: being really methodical, and I picture in my mind, I'm busy,

1154
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: just like everyone else. I am time blocking this and

1155
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm not thinking or doing any other obligations during how

1156
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 4: this period. I'm solely focused on learning as much as possible,

1157
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: leaving detailed notes, and so my time is efficient and

1158
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 4: I'm not getting distracted. And I say that I want

1159
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: to do that, but it doesn't always work that way.

1160
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 6: Sure, But I think the key thing with it is

1161
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 6: because you're so close to the season starting, what you

1162
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 6: don't want to do, in my opinion, is you don't

1163
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 6: want to be like, all right, I'm gonna do a

1164
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 6: little bit this Saturday, and I'll come back next weekend,

1165
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 6: do a little bit next Saturday, and I'll come back

1166
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 6: the next weekend and do another next Saturday, and they'll

1167
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 6: do some the next and the season starts that someday.

1168
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 6: Whatever it is, you don't want a bunch of repeated

1169
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 6: intrusions and doing it. I'd rather blow it up in

1170
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 6: one or two days versus like blow up corner here,

1171
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 6: in the corner here the next week, and the corner

1172
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 6: here the next week, at the quarter here the next week,

1173
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 6: because that is just like consistent pressure. That's gonna have

1174
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 6: those deer more and more and more and more educated

1175
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 6: before the season starts. That's a huge mistake. Yeah, one

1176
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 6: bad day deer can get over pretty quick. Repeated bad

1177
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 6: days they don't tolerate nearly as well.

1178
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: Well, it's funny you bring that up, because that was

1179
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 4: that was the ringing advice through all of the guests.

1180
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 4: None of them said, well, I'm gonna go there on

1181
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: one day and then I'm gonna think about it for

1182
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: a couple of days, and then I'm gonna go back again,

1183
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: and then and all these multiple trips. It's very clear

1184
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: that if this happens to you, you're in this scenario,

1185
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: you have to be you have to have a really

1186
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: good plan, and you have to have one in one

1187
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 4: out best case scenario to maximize your opportunity and minimize

1188
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: the downside. So I think that's something that everyone should

1189
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: really consider. It. Man, what an exciting time if you're

1190
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: in this position. That's a really exciting time to go

1191
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: learn a new piece and test your theories and then

1192
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 4: affirm your theories for the following year if you're able

1193
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 4: to go back. And so I think it's a really

1194
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 4: exciting time. And hopefully all these experts give you some

1195
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 4: clear and concise guidance, because I think that was the

1196
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: case for this episode. And next week we have one

1197
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: that everyone that's planted a food plot has been in

1198
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: this scenario and we're diving into. If you're and you're

1199
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: listening to this right now, you're probably can we release

1200
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: it right now? Because you're probably looking at it. If

1201
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: your food plots did not turn out how you wanted,

1202
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: what can you do?

1203
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 3: What's a contingency plan. We're diving into that next week.

1204
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 4: With some people that have planted thousands of acres of

1205
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 4: food plots. You guys have it. I hope you enjoyed

1206
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: this episode. It was a lot of fun and I

1207
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 4: just want to drive this home. I want to reiterate it.

1208
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: Just if you do not have a brand new farmer,

1209
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 4: you don't fall exactly in this category. The point of

1210
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: this question was even if you've been hunting the same spot,

1211
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: to get a fresh perspective to go in and maybe

1212
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: do one last outing around, or go do the project,

1213
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: or go hang another set, or the obvious spot that

1214
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: felt too good and too good to be true, it

1215
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 4: might be the best spot on the farm. And so

1216
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 4: it's a good reset to revisit and look at farms

1217
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: that you're already hunting or places that you're hunting, and

1218
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 4: go through this checklist one last time. Because we're getting

1219
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 4: so close to season. Hopefully this episode pointed you in

1220
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: the right direction. And next week we're flipping the calendar

1221
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: to September, and if you have some food plot questions,

1222
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: you've been struggling the food plots over the years, or

1223
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: you haven't got them in yet, that episode is going

1224
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: to be just for you. So I hope you guys

1225
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: enjoyed this episode, and we will see you next week

1226
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: on the Back forty podcast.