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Speaker 1: Morale's a little low, lack of sleep, maybe a little hungover.
Speaker 1: Every day is the Super Bowl. We rally and we'll
Speaker 1: try to do that today. We got robbed last night.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows it. We got robbed. Sports Center won the
Speaker 1: Sports Emmy last night. I mean, how many Sports centers
Speaker 1: are there? You got like ten of them. So we
Speaker 1: didn't win. I choose not to use the expression that
Speaker 1: we lost the Sports Emmy. We just didn't win. But
Speaker 1: we had fun. We were waiting for the announcement and
Speaker 1: I said that during the viewing party, we're going to
Speaker 1: have our goggles on. We got rain slickers. I have
Speaker 1: champagne from last year that we didn't get to crack open.
Speaker 1: And we looked like minions or meth dealers. It looked
Speaker 1: like something on a breaking bad. But we're all gathered
Speaker 1: around the laptop and we're waiting for the announcement and
Speaker 1: we have our goggles on, champagne in hand, rain slickers,
Speaker 1: and I said, win or lose, We're popping the champagne
Speaker 1: we're having fun. And when they said and the winner
Speaker 1: is Sports Center, I said, and this time I didn't
Speaker 1: react like I did last year, where I went, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, I just went gave a shout out to
Speaker 1: some of the folks that I used to work with
Speaker 1: at Sports Center, and congratulations doesn't change their life. It
Speaker 1: would have changed our lives. It would have changed our
Speaker 1: lives for the better. We would have amounted as something
Speaker 1: we could have been proud of taking on this risk,
Speaker 1: doing this job. Yes time, Yeah, but then you risk
Speaker 1: that Cubs thing, and Paul, we can speak to that
Speaker 1: the lovable losers, and they win and they're not so
Speaker 1: special anymore, and they're kind of an after thoughts because
Speaker 1: they already got one the red socks that happened to Todd.
Speaker 1: Trust me, Pauli's fine with the Cubs winning in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'd love to change my image that way. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's I thought it's good for our brand to
Speaker 1: not win, because yes, the Cubs were the lovable losers,
Speaker 1: and then they won, and then we don't care about
Speaker 1: the Cubs anymore. But you know, it's four in a row,
Speaker 1: so we are the Buffalo Bills of sports shows. Now
Speaker 1: the Bills are actually rooting for us to we're getting
Speaker 1: nominated and lose it again next year and they could
Speaker 1: pop the champagne like the Dolphins did what they went
Speaker 1: defeated s And uh, you're probably wanting to know, did
Speaker 1: he do it? Yes he did. Todd has a limerick
Speaker 1: the morning after, Todd, please a sports limerick. That would
Speaker 1: be nice. I don't know if this makes it any better.
Speaker 1: It might make it worse. Well, but a sports limerick
Speaker 1: would be nice. The morning after still hurts a lot.
Speaker 1: Still no hardware have we got? Time's not a charm?
Speaker 1: Another shot in the arm. Okay, well, thank you, Tony.
Speaker 1: That didn't make it better. It did not. But Todd
Speaker 1: sent it to me three times this morning, and I thought,
Speaker 1: let's just knock it out of the way. And here
Speaker 1: we go. We're off to the races. Welcome to the program,
Speaker 1: Dan and the Dan Ats Dan Patrick Show. We will rally,
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Speaker 1: that's what we do as well. Sons. At the Nuggets
Speaker 1: game two tonight, the Joker won the NBA MVP Jazz
Speaker 1: over the Clippers. Jazz after a slow start come back
Speaker 1: to win that one in dramatic fashion. Seventy six ers
Speaker 1: ropped up the Hawks and we got a full blown
Speaker 1: controversy with doctoring the baseball. We'll talk about that coming up.
Speaker 1: Christian Polisic, the Chelsea USA midfielder, will join us coming
Speaker 1: up next down. Yes, the front row is very excited
Speaker 1: about this. Seaton Goes prepared some questions for you, and
Speaker 1: I said, well, okay, that's great. Is that what I say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can I bring my son in to watch the interview? Oh,
Speaker 1: here's here's a couple of questions for Christian. Here I
Speaker 1: could ask these if you would ask these in this order, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice. I'll just sit and listen. Oh, Fernando
Speaker 1: Tatis Junior, the third the padre shortstop, will join us
Speaker 1: coming up as well. I taped an interview with Xander Schoffley,
Speaker 1: the PGA professional PGA golfer, and you know he's always
Speaker 1: in the top ten when it comes to majors. He
Speaker 1: joined us yesterday and I wanted to have him on
Speaker 1: because he played with John Ram in the first two
Speaker 1: rounds at the Memorial and he's got some more details
Speaker 1: here about what happened, and he kind of had an
Speaker 1: idea that something was up with John Ram prior to
Speaker 1: that Saturday when he walked off the eighteenth and they
Speaker 1: said to John Ram, you're DQ. I'll give you a portion.
Speaker 1: It's about three minutes. That'll be next hour. But I
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty strong what Xander had to say
Speaker 1: about the PGA tour, how they handled that and John
Speaker 1: Ram that situation. That'll be coming up eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: if that show could win an Emmy, like Best Show
Speaker 1: during the Sports Emmy's about the Sports Emmys. Maybe we
Speaker 1: win that one, but I was really proud of what
Speaker 1: we did last nime. All right, we'll come up with
Speaker 1: the poll question, Play of the day, stat of the Day.
Speaker 1: Congrats to Denver's Nikola Yokich for winning the MV Pig
Speaker 1: and there's no question that he deserves it because he
Speaker 1: was there from start to finish. Some of these other
Speaker 1: contenders didn't play a whole season. Joe Lmbid finished second,
Speaker 1: but you were missing over twenty games. You know, Yokich
Speaker 1: has a skill set that probably is not going to
Speaker 1: elicit a lot of complimentary things, a lot of highlights,
Speaker 1: but he can pass, play inside outside, He'll take a
Speaker 1: tough shot. It's not the end of the story, though,
Speaker 1: because what happens is you win the MVP and then
Speaker 1: we go, okay, let's see what you do in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You know, Dirk Nevitski famously winning the MVP and losing
Speaker 1: in the first round. Greek Freak the last couple of
Speaker 1: years win the MVP and then bow out early. Yokich
Speaker 1: may run into, you know, this same pothole here, negative things.
Speaker 1: They'll find something negative in a positive accomplishment. But let's
Speaker 1: see if he can get out of this next round here.
Speaker 1: And it just feels like, I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Greek Freak wins an MVP again anytime soon, because what
Speaker 1: happens in the postseason. It's a regular season award. But
Speaker 1: we tend to look at what you do in the
Speaker 1: postseason as almost like confirmation of oh, yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: you were the MVP. Yokichs played this season was remarkable,
Speaker 1: as MVP award is certainly worth celebrating. Also, keep this
Speaker 1: in mind, he's the lowest drafted MVP in NBA history.
Speaker 1: Steve Nash and Janis Adetakompo were both fifteen overall. The
Speaker 1: Joker was forty first overall. The second second round picked
Speaker 1: ever win the MVP. The first was Willis Reid that
Speaker 1: was nineteen seventy, but Yoki third European MVP, Greek freak
Speaker 1: and Durk Navitsky. You know what he's done for Serbian
Speaker 1: basketball there. But yeah, quite a story there and getting
Speaker 1: the MVP. But it would help that you outplay DeAndre
Speaker 1: Ayton because if Ayton can match you and that's a stalemate,
Speaker 1: Nuggets aren't going to win that series. Yokich has to
Speaker 1: be a lot more impressive than he was. But this
Speaker 1: will be a game two. Watch a lot of the
Speaker 1: Sixers last night while we were doing our viewing party.
Speaker 1: Seventy sixers and b going for forty and they had
Speaker 1: a little bit better defensive strategy for Trey Young also,
Speaker 1: you had multiple defenders on him, but he had one
Speaker 1: three pointer last night and seventy sixers relying on their
Speaker 1: bench as they pick up the victory to even that series.
Speaker 1: All right, mclovin, what do you have for me today?
Speaker 1: Pull question wise? Okay, let's start with Yoki. Would you
Speaker 1: rather be? I don't care if he wins three NBA
Speaker 1: titles and four more MVPs? Would you rather be Vince
Speaker 1: Carter or the Joker? The ultimate highlight player against I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the ultimate non highlight player. Well, he's only twenty six.
Speaker 1: He had a play the other day. He threw the
Speaker 1: ball off the backboard to himself like Tracy McGrady in
Speaker 1: the All Star Game, and then hit a layup instead
Speaker 1: of Duncan. Okay, it's still how many pollys does it count?
Speaker 1: The seven feet throw it down, big man? How many
Speaker 1: points does it count? For two? But in the public
Speaker 1: perception and YouTube world, you know how people watch the
Speaker 1: NBA twelve year old kids watch it on YouTube the
Speaker 1: next morning. Okay, he's not gonna move a lot of
Speaker 1: jerseys here, but he's still a very good player. And
Speaker 1: you know it's not one of those where you go, man,
Speaker 1: he's gonna eventually slow down or he's not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to jump that high. He's not gonna be that
Speaker 1: quick when he gets older. And then you go like
Speaker 1: he's already slowed down. You know, it's not like you're
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, let me see how he is in
Speaker 1: five years. Somebody wake up Seaton watching Yoki highlights here
Speaker 1: I have actually okay, I had to get that out
Speaker 1: of the way. Now for the real poll question, which
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Speaker 1: mclove more impressive feed in NFL history, the Buffalo Bill's
Speaker 1: going to four straight Super Bowls or the Philadephi Eagles
Speaker 1: winning our random Super Bowl in the twenty seventeen totally
Speaker 1: just NFL question, no relation to us. Would you rather
Speaker 1: go to four straight Super Bowls? Or win one and
Speaker 1: then fade into oblivion? Why are we mentioning this? Just football,
Speaker 1: you know, the little football. Everyone loves football. Nothing to
Speaker 1: do with us, just curiosity. All right, Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: what mclub is trying to say here. The Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: are historical and famous and well known, Jim Kelly, all
Speaker 1: those guys, Andre Reid, but they didn't win it. Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: Will and his won Super Bowl. It's almost like it
Speaker 1: didn't happen. It happened, but it's it's a local super Bowl,
Speaker 1: it's not a one. It's gonna be remembered. The Bills
Speaker 1: will be more remembered than Nick Foles and the Eagles are.
Speaker 1: Trent dilfriend the Ravens nationally. I would rather be the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I'd rather you know that that we know.
Speaker 1: It's four consecutive years we've been nominated for the Sports Emmy.
Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. And we were going up against some
Speaker 1: heavy hitters and these are networks that we're going up against.
Speaker 1: I mean we were a sixteen seed and almost pulled
Speaker 1: off the upset. Yes. Time. It's still a little worse
Speaker 1: for the Bills not to pile on the city of
Speaker 1: Buffalo because they have a game to play, they have
Speaker 1: some control over it. People. It's not like the fans
Speaker 1: decide who gets to be Super Bowl champions. We're waiting
Speaker 1: for voters to decide among a group they actually compete
Speaker 1: and someone who scores more point than the other. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you I think it's impressive to go to four
Speaker 1: Super Bowls? I agree? Yes. By the way, a lot
Speaker 1: of Hall of Famers on that team. Yeah, Andre Reid
Speaker 1: made it recently. Jim Kelly, Yeah, maybe maybe not Thurman,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any parallel with the Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers. Well, we got one Hall of Famers. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but I but I mean we could if there's a
Speaker 1: Booking Hall of Fame, a Limerick Hall of Fame. You
Speaker 1: mean the Scotch Shapiro wing of the Broadcasting Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer Booking Hall? Yeah? What else do you have? So pitching? Uh?
Speaker 1: Couple questions off of this, what's a bigger problem for
Speaker 1: baseball pitchers? You seeing foreign substances or hitters using peds
Speaker 1: and the corollary question, Actually it's not corollary. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what that means. Should MLB just let pitchers
Speaker 1: use foreign substances sort of have a hands off approach? Okay,
Speaker 1: but I need to know what substance are they using.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you using vasoline? That doesn't help you
Speaker 1: with your grip? Oh? I see what you're saying. So
Speaker 1: there are some substances that should be allowed within limits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if they've allowed that, there's a gentleman's agreement in baseball,
Speaker 1: and both managers know this. I'm not going to rap
Speaker 1: your player out. You don't wrap my player out. You
Speaker 1: go back to it might have been the World Series
Speaker 1: where we saw that happened with Jim Leland and Tony LaRussa,
Speaker 1: and there was mutual respect of not calling out your
Speaker 1: picture for using a foreign substance. Maybe you're using pine tark.
Speaker 1: We allow hitters to have gloves and pine tar, but pitchers, no,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to A little rods in there and
Speaker 1: a little sweat and gets a little tacky there. But
Speaker 1: the reason why this is a big deal now is
Speaker 1: because Garrett Cole pitches for the Yankees, and Trevor Bauer
Speaker 1: pitches for the Dodgers. These are marquee franchises and you
Speaker 1: have all star pitchers. Garrett Cole did not do himself
Speaker 1: any favors. Yesterday you had a press conference. I'll play
Speaker 1: that for you coming up. But you know, Trevor Bauer
Speaker 1: is a guy who loves to talk. Garrett Cole doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, he still hasn't spoken about the astros cheating scandal.
Speaker 1: Somehow he had no idea what was going on. So
Speaker 1: now you got another cheating scandal of sorts and baseball.
Speaker 1: Now what do you do? You clean up the sport?
Speaker 1: How do you clean up the sport? You toss somebody.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is, hey, if we catch
Speaker 1: with a foreign substance on your body as a pitcher,
Speaker 1: you're out for ten day, ten games. Then you clean
Speaker 1: it up, go back to steroids? Like what was the approach?
Speaker 1: If you test positive? What happened? And then you tested
Speaker 1: positive again? What happened? And I kept saying and even
Speaker 1: said it to the then commissioner, Bud Sey, commissioner, if
Speaker 1: you if you don't sit somebody down for a prolonged
Speaker 1: period of time, they don't care. They're making so much
Speaker 1: money they don't care. And then what happened first offense?
Speaker 1: What was it? Was it? Sixty games? Yep? Caught your
Speaker 1: attention a little bit there. Now do they still use Yes,
Speaker 1: they run that risk, the risk and the reward. But baseball,
Speaker 1: you want to crack down on a foreign substance on
Speaker 1: a baseball? Is that why batting averages are at an
Speaker 1: all time low? Are we giving pitchers Guys are throwing
Speaker 1: one miles an hour? Now we give them an even
Speaker 1: extra advantage of being able to grip the ball to
Speaker 1: get more spin. So when you see these guys throw
Speaker 1: a ninety four mile an hour slider, didn't used to
Speaker 1: be that way, and you're gripping it and being able
Speaker 1: to have more break on it, you know these hitters
Speaker 1: are up there trying to hit a home run. They're
Speaker 1: nine trying to put it into play. And if you
Speaker 1: allow them to be able to throw that hard and
Speaker 1: give them the extra advantage of something on the ball,
Speaker 1: pine tar, you know they're they're actually using a substance
Speaker 1: that's used for weightlifting. Now. I don't know if teams
Speaker 1: are ordering this or just players are ordering this. It's
Speaker 1: called spider tack and it's from a small place in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Weightlifters use this. But we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: I'll play what Garrick had to say yesterday because and
Speaker 1: just the pauses in between words, you're gonna think that,
Speaker 1: wait what after my radio here because it is a
Speaker 1: awkward moment there for Garrett Cole. So I have that
Speaker 1: for you. The Yankee pitcher, he's he's asked about using
Speaker 1: this substance and he had no idea how to answer it.
Speaker 1: Your phone calls are welcome. Christian Polisic. We haven't had
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Speaker 1: Tom Petty, the late Great Tom Petty, Tom tell us
Speaker 1: who we are. Come on, Tom, get to the chorus. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: the double verse. Yeah, golly, don't boris get to the chorus.
Speaker 1: Come on, Tom, big wind up. Here's the pitch. Tom, Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, Well you get lucky sometimes. According
Speaker 1: to Tom, I don't know when we're losers babies. I
Speaker 1: don't you kill me? If this is what's in store?
Speaker 1: The entire morning. Heres, but we do it every year,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, yeah, so we don't have to get
Speaker 1: new songs. They're already there right correct. By the way,
Speaker 1: you know what I did over the weekend that's going
Speaker 1: to shock you. It'll shock, it'll shock this audience as well. Yes,
Speaker 1: drank tequila and your basement, pet your dog. I did that.
Speaker 1: Watched half of several different movies. Yeah, I did that too,
Speaker 1: watch Sacramento Kings Highlights. Oh no, I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: I listened to an album that's Remember when I told
Speaker 1: you Billie Eilish was going to be the album of
Speaker 1: the year. Came in gushing over Billy Eilish. Here we go,
Speaker 1: we got another album of the year. Paula, you're trying
Speaker 1: to press some button here, but it's not working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it didn't work. Yes, okay. Olivia Rodrigo, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. That is the album of the year.
Speaker 1: It's not for everybody. It's about teenage breakup angst. Um
Speaker 1: combination of Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish with a little
Speaker 1: sprinkling of Shirley Manson from Garbage. Wow, how about that? Um,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of songs on there, and I think
Speaker 1: she's got the album of the year. You probably heard
Speaker 1: the Driver's License, but you know she gets her Driver's
Speaker 1: license that that's been one of the big hits there.
Speaker 1: But there. I listened to the album a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be the album of
Speaker 1: the year. Yes, Todd, Now, was this the next concert
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to solo? To follow up the Britney
Speaker 1: Spears For many years, I would do that. I would
Speaker 1: do that. They're all in there. I had no problem
Speaker 1: going to a Britney Spears concert by myself. I told
Speaker 1: you no beer lines and it was. She put on
Speaker 1: a great show. She had like eight or nine costume changes,
Speaker 1: and uh, but I this is the album of the year.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big deal. I think she's only
Speaker 1: like seventeen years of age. Were you listening like Disney
Speaker 1: Radio on serious No No. I I specifically sought this out, kids, Bob.
Speaker 1: I specifically sought out the album just too. Instead of saying, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like that or I wouldn't like that, I
Speaker 1: listened just to see if i'd like it. And she's
Speaker 1: got a great voice and some nice hooks. In there,
Speaker 1: as the kids like to say in the business. Alrighty,
Speaker 1: Baseball's foreign substance crackdown, Trevor Bauer, the Dodgers, Garrett Cole,
Speaker 1: and you had Josh Donaldson who started this. Josh Donaldson
Speaker 1: He former MVP, isn't he mclovin? I think so. He
Speaker 1: was a Sports Jeopardy question when we played the Sports
Speaker 1: Jeopardy and all of us got it wrong. Yeah, he,
Speaker 1: I think when the MVP when he was with the
Speaker 1: A's If that sounds right, well, he's with the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Twins and he had this to say about pitchers putting
Speaker 1: a foreign substance on the ball. What these guys are
Speaker 1: doing are now are performance enhancing to where it is
Speaker 1: an actual, like super blue type of ordeal, to where
Speaker 1: it's not about command anymore. Because when you go look
Speaker 1: at areas that would show command, walks or hit by
Speaker 1: pitches are all time high on a pace. Is that
Speaker 1: coincidence that Garrit Coles and rate numbers went down yesterday
Speaker 1: after fort minor leagues gets suspended for ten games? Is it?
Speaker 1: You know? Is that possible? I don't know? Maybe? All right,
Speaker 1: So that's Josh Donaldson calling out Garrett Cole Garrett Cole
Speaker 1: yesterday and a press conference was asked some very direct
Speaker 1: questions and he didn't give very direct answers. Can you
Speaker 1: ever used spider time well pitching? Um, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. If I don't know quite,
Speaker 1: I don't quite know how to answer that, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I mean, there are customs and practices that have been
Speaker 1: passed down from older players to younger players, from the
Speaker 1: last generation of players to this generation of players, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think there are some things
Speaker 1: that are certainly out of bounds in that regard. And
Speaker 1: I stood pretty stood pretty firm and in terms of that,
Speaker 1: in terms of the communication between our peers and whatnot, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, And and I again, like I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: there's you know, this is important to a lot of
Speaker 1: people that love the game. This is including including the
Speaker 1: players in this room, including fans, including you know, teams,
Speaker 1: And so if MLB wants to, you know, legislate some
Speaker 1: more stuff, that's a conversation that we can have because
Speaker 1: ultimately we should'll be pulling in the same direction of us. Boy,
Speaker 1: that clears that up, right, Um, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If he can just come out and say yes, Now,
Speaker 1: Spider tach is um what it is is it? It's
Speaker 1: just a substance that's used by powerlifters to give you
Speaker 1: a better grip. And this is a gym in North
Speaker 1: Carolina and they sell it online. And pictures have been
Speaker 1: using foreign substances for a long time now. There are
Speaker 1: hitters who will say, and they'll acknowledge that the application
Speaker 1: of a little bit of pine tar sunscreen was always
Speaker 1: a big one. You mix that with the rozin and
Speaker 1: you know, in a dry condition or cool conditions. They
Speaker 1: players want to make sure that they're not ducking out
Speaker 1: of the way of a fastball because you can't grip it.
Speaker 1: There is a gentleman's agreement on that. But as with
Speaker 1: any kind of advantage, you get the advantage, and then
Speaker 1: how far do you go with that advantage? I get
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, it'd stopped at I don't know, fifty one
Speaker 1: home runs. You know, when you go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's got seventy three home runs, fifty five okay, I'm
Speaker 1: all right with that. It's sort of like the speed
Speaker 1: limit where you go, okay, it's fifty five, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go sixty four. If I go seventy seven, that's bad,
Speaker 1: or if I go eight two, that's really bad. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what happens when you cheat. Hey, I got await
Speaker 1: with that. Maybe I could get away with that. Baseball
Speaker 1: is going to crack down on this. We saw this
Speaker 1: with minor leaguers. Four minor leaguers were suspended for ten
Speaker 1: games apiece. But you have to get this through the
Speaker 1: players Association. You know, there's so much legal red tape
Speaker 1: involved in this. But baseball has a little bit of
Speaker 1: a problem here. It's called we had too much offense.
Speaker 1: Now we don't have enough offense, and now we have
Speaker 1: an unbelievable pitching performance dominated the game. Yes, ton, I
Speaker 1: know you don't want to incriminate yourself, but anything other
Speaker 1: than no, in that situation, it sounded like he would
Speaker 1: have been better saying like lawyering up at that point saying, Ergot,
Speaker 1: let me talk to my attorney before I enter that.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know how anything other than an immediate
Speaker 1: no is not some type of admission of something going on.
Speaker 1: But if you say, well, this has been passed down
Speaker 1: from generation to generation, that's not always good things. And yes,
Speaker 1: maybe some of this has been passed down, But then
Speaker 1: how far is like, what is cheating anymore? Yeah? Seedon
Speaker 1: and it's just funny to hear that spider tech has
Speaker 1: been passed down from generation to generation. Yeah, maybe not
Speaker 1: maybe not that substance there, but like, what is cheating?
Speaker 1: This is baseball where you know we have such a
Speaker 1: problem with hitters using steroids. All right, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: But picture using a foreign substance on a baseball. That's
Speaker 1: part of the game. I know it's been passed down. Well,
Speaker 1: so of steroids. They've they've been passed down from generation
Speaker 1: to generation, starting in the seventies with the NFL. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. PAULI asked me if I had a
Speaker 1: beer this morning prior to the show, Dan, do you
Speaker 1: have a beer before the show this morning? No, now,
Speaker 1: if you had had one and didn't want to admit it, Dan,
Speaker 1: did you have a beer before the show this morning?
Speaker 1: I I don't know how to answer that. Umi had
Speaker 1: one of you did, but I do. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's been passed down from generation to generation. That you know,
Speaker 1: people had a beer for breakfast growing up, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that. I'm I'm uncomfortable. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's even better too if you start it the way
Speaker 1: Garrett Cole did when they say have you ever used
Speaker 1: a spider attack? He goes, oh uh uh uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Garrett Colby. Once again, this is a big deal for
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. And you have to understand how
Speaker 1: the media works. If this was a pitcher with the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals, we wouldn't care. You got a Yankee
Speaker 1: and you got a Dodger. And when ESPN starts to
Speaker 1: pick up the story, then it becomes a big story.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of media outlets that had this story,
Speaker 1: and probably Sports Illustrated doesn't have a TV network, they
Speaker 1: don't have a media empire. ESPN picks it up. Now
Speaker 1: it's a story, Yes, but I was wondering, is it
Speaker 1: also show that baseball is in its popular as football
Speaker 1: because two inches of air pressure of football took over
Speaker 1: news cycle for two years. Yes, yes, you're right about that,
Speaker 1: like we but we were apoplectic because it was Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: If that is throw out a quarterback. If Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: is deflating a football in Miami, or you know, any
Speaker 1: of his other nine stops in the NFL, nobody cares
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's cheating. The Patriots are getting away with something.
Speaker 1: Then it became a story. It's who is it, who's
Speaker 1: covering it? That's how something becomes big or it just
Speaker 1: sort of lays there and it goes away. We don't care. Yeah, club,
Speaker 1: I imagine. I hear Lebron likes a little air out
Speaker 1: of his basketball when he shoots a jumper. That would be,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it'd be a big deal. But I think
Speaker 1: any other NBA player, I'm not quite sure, Like the
Speaker 1: NBA could get to that level. Now, if you're a
Speaker 1: petty thief, is that okay? Just don't be a bank robber? Yeah,
Speaker 1: petty thief is a small lower value. I think it's
Speaker 1: under two. Yeah, but you're just a petty thief, right.
Speaker 1: You're being passed down from generations. That's what doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: It's like, so if you had a relative that was
Speaker 1: a criminal of some sort, you know, I know, it's
Speaker 1: different than cheating in baseball. That means that's you do it.
Speaker 1: It was passed down from generations. I have a parent
Speaker 1: and a grand parent that used to shoplift, though, that's
Speaker 1: why I do it. What's the poll? Question. McLevin. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think we should put up either this question, should
Speaker 1: MLB let pictures get away with what they're doing or
Speaker 1: which is a bigger problem, peeds for hitters or substances
Speaker 1: for pictures. I think the lack of offense is hurting
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, it is, Yes, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: know if when's the last time steroids were brought up
Speaker 1: in baseball? Made a long time? Yeah, but then people
Speaker 1: after a while, we're like, we don't care anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: they know how to beat the test. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: always amazed when a marquee guy like Rafael Palmio, who
Speaker 1: had the financial means to be able to hire people
Speaker 1: to help him beat the system, got caught for a
Speaker 1: hardcore steroid. But you know, it's the science involved in
Speaker 1: this now of what can I take? How much can
Speaker 1: I take? When can I take it? It's still going
Speaker 1: on and it's going to continue going on to go on.
Speaker 1: It will baseball? How much do I let you put
Speaker 1: on the baseball? How do you go? You can do that?
Speaker 1: But not that, I mean, do I measure what you
Speaker 1: have on your you know, the bill of your hat?
Speaker 1: Can I can I inspect you like it's just a
Speaker 1: slippery slope we're going down. Yeah, mclub, do you notice
Speaker 1: the pitches? Have you noticed the pitches moved differently this year?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching like everybody else. I mean, if I
Speaker 1: stood in there and faced a ninety eight mile an
Speaker 1: hour slider from Jacob de Grom, now, but the players
Speaker 1: know when there's more bite to a baseball, there's more
Speaker 1: break to a baseball. And look, there has to be
Speaker 1: some kind of correlation between all of these no hitters
Speaker 1: batting averages at an all time loan. We can say, well,
Speaker 1: we're up there for launch angle and they're just trying
Speaker 1: to hit home runs. But I think if an Ill
Speaker 1: asked Fernando Tatis Junior this coming up in the final
Speaker 1: hour of the show, like, are you okay if they
Speaker 1: use a little bit of substance on here. Guys who've
Speaker 1: doctored the baseball for years, I knew somebody who was
Speaker 1: a catcher, I knew somebody was a third baseman, and
Speaker 1: they would they would alternate on who was going to
Speaker 1: scuff the baseball, so ketcher could use his shin guard
Speaker 1: the side of his shin guard, and you would have
Speaker 1: the third baseman would have a tack at the base
Speaker 1: of his glove where his hand goes in, and there'd
Speaker 1: be attack there, so he could just he could just
Speaker 1: cut it just a little bit. Therefore the pitcher had
Speaker 1: nothing on him. It was the catcher with his shin
Speaker 1: guard and then you had to catch the third baseman
Speaker 1: had attack. Now, pitchers have used that before. Remember what's
Speaker 1: a rale. Just Chapman looked like he had a birthmark
Speaker 1: and it was had he had pine tar on his
Speaker 1: neck or did that? It looked like a tattoo. Hey,
Speaker 1: I know you want to be able to grip the baseball,
Speaker 1: but I think and it's not even a fine line
Speaker 1: here of gripping the baseball. I always go back to
Speaker 1: Lester Hayes when he played for the Raiders and he
Speaker 1: had stick him on his hands. It looked like he had,
Speaker 1: you know, glue just dripping off his hand. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, I kept thinking, if he ever shook hands
Speaker 1: with a teammate, we couldn't separate him and his teammate.
Speaker 1: NFL receivers they get to wear gloves. Okay, is that
Speaker 1: performance enhancing, which I've said it is performance enhancing, Yes,
Speaker 1: but there are rules about how tacky those gloves. They
Speaker 1: have a level of tackiness. They they're supposedly can a
Speaker 1: picture where a tacky glove, I'm just throwing it. Could
Speaker 1: you really pitch without it? With a glove on that way?
Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to. I don't think you want that
Speaker 1: field of the baseball. But that would cut down on
Speaker 1: blisters for these guys quarterbacks use him. But also they
Speaker 1: don't want to give you that. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I can doctor the glove and how it looks. So
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, I have a white glove
Speaker 1: on with a white baseball and I'm throwing it. Try
Speaker 1: to catch up with that. Yeah, mc gloving. It was
Speaker 1: Michael Pineda in twenty fourteen with the pint art. Is
Speaker 1: that notchack Yankee teammate? Yeah? And the pictures are unbelievable,
Speaker 1: like he did not do a good job of hiding.
Speaker 1: They are wonderful. The pictures are just laugh out loud funny. Yes, Todd. Also,
Speaker 1: how do you police this during the course of a game.
Speaker 1: It's incumbent on the umpires to catch somebody. You get
Speaker 1: a sudden number of challenges every second inning, fifth and
Speaker 1: eighth thing. All of a sudden you see something weird?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? If you're wrong? What happens to
Speaker 1: you as opposed to being right? But I don't know
Speaker 1: if people care about this. I mean, really, that's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to. Do you as a fan care?
Speaker 1: And you know, we cared about the Astros, right the
Speaker 1: Dodgers were victims there, then we had we had a culprit,
Speaker 1: we had consequences. Somebody won a championship here, then we cared.
Speaker 1: But you also had the Dodgers involved in this. You
Speaker 1: had some marquee players with the Astros, like Garrett Cole
Speaker 1: has never really commented on what happened with the trash
Speaker 1: can controversy with his team when he won a World Series.
Speaker 1: He'd prefer to now, yeah, and you don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about the sticky stuff. Do you want to talk
Speaker 1: about the seventeen Estros in the ENTRAI? Yes, yes, I'd
Speaker 1: love to talk about that. How we cheated there? All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Play of the Day is up.
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Speaker 1: in the second half eleven for sixteen from the floor,
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Speaker 1: shapeclub dot com slash Patrick. Tylu, the Clippers head coach,
Speaker 1: was asked after the game, why didn't you take a
Speaker 1: time out at the end of the game and maybe
Speaker 1: get a better shot than you did. I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to take Gobert out of the game and having
Speaker 1: switchable guys in or have time and you know, talk
Speaker 1: about as a team and if they want to foul
Speaker 1: or not. And I just thought getting to stop, you know,
Speaker 1: getting down on a break. But Gobert on the floor
Speaker 1: was gonna be able to generate an open three. But
Speaker 1: he did a good job of closing out to the corner. Um,
Speaker 1: I gotta watch it. But that's the best time I
Speaker 1: try to get it three, especially when a team doesn't
Speaker 1: know what they're going to foul or what they're gonna do,
Speaker 1: you know, coming down in transition. Yeah, I understand it.
Speaker 1: You know. I always love the coach that had his
Speaker 1: team prepared for that moment. Then he didn't have to
Speaker 1: take a time out because I want to catch you
Speaker 1: before you set your defense up. Well, Utah is a
Speaker 1: very good team defense, and it didn't seem like they
Speaker 1: had a real game plan the Clippers as far as
Speaker 1: that last shot. You know, you're like, throw the ball
Speaker 1: to Kauhi and what do I do? And then he
Speaker 1: throws it And Paul George did not play well again
Speaker 1: in the first half. Bad did a little better in
Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, mclove by the way Paul we
Speaker 1: put up. Should MLB come down hard on the pitchers?
Speaker 1: Sent say yes, So there's nobody who's like let them go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, But I mean, I guess the other question,
Speaker 1: like do you really care? I don't get that strong sense. Well,
Speaker 1: if you care, then you care about what does the
Speaker 1: game look like? The aesthetics of baseball? You know, is
Speaker 1: it They're trying to get more movement in the game.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get it, so it's not just one
Speaker 1: of those where you sit and watch and you wait
Speaker 1: for something to happen. When you have these pitchers who
Speaker 1: are so good, I mean, I go back to nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight when Bob Gibson, you know, one point one two.
Speaker 1: Denny McClean won over thirty games that year. Baseball had
Speaker 1: a real problem the fact that Karl Yastremski won the
Speaker 1: batting title batting three zero one. They had a real
Speaker 1: problem there. You know, these pictures are brought up. Now,
Speaker 1: throw hard, Throw for as long as you can. You need,
Speaker 1: Tommy John, It's okay, you'll come back. Yeah. Point uh.
Speaker 1: This is going to sound like a horrible idea, but
Speaker 1: I just a radical idea. What if you could somehow
Speaker 1: radically change the baseball scoring system where basse hits were points,
Speaker 1: not walks, but base hits were points, and you get
Speaker 1: rewarded by bass hits, and a total number of hits
Speaker 1: combined with runs at a game became the final score
Speaker 1: because then no one's leaving their bat on their shoulder.
Speaker 1: And if you get nine hits and the other team
Speaker 1: has four hits and you each have four runs, you win.
Speaker 1: I know, but baseball, it just feels like they're doing
Speaker 1: their best. They're trying to you know, they were relying
Speaker 1: on gimmicks. Hey, you know, doublehead or seven innings, start
Speaker 1: extra innings on second base. They're trying Scott in Florida.
Speaker 1: Hey Scott, what's on your mind? Hey, Scott points adp.
Speaker 1: I think he made some great points earlier about cheating
Speaker 1: in baseball and how we're just kind of selective about
Speaker 1: the forms of cheating we care about. I would posit
Speaker 1: that everyone really started caring when Barry Bonds was using.
Speaker 1: And to me, this just drives home the point that
Speaker 1: he should be in the Hall of Fame. It's not
Speaker 1: like he had access to special steroids or anything like that.
Speaker 1: He was just that much better than everyone else. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a quick They weren't testing,
Speaker 1: you know, back then exactly? Now? What else? Well, I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you baseball, What if they bought some
Speaker 1: acres outside of Omaha, Nebraska and built a diamond, but
Speaker 1: with no outfield wall, you can hit the ball as
Speaker 1: far as you want, but buddy, he better get around
Speaker 1: these bases. Thank you, Scott. That is radical. That might
Speaker 1: be more radical than yours. Paul thinks. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: build a baseball stadium and we have no home run fences.
Speaker 1: But if you hit it and it goes a country mile,
Speaker 1: then you just keep running, run Forest Run. Are we
Speaker 1: in the same territory as like raising the rim to
Speaker 1: eleven feet or expanding the NFL end zone, or like
Speaker 1: is there a radical idea coming to baseball? I think
Speaker 1: a radical idea for basketball would be to widen the floor.
Speaker 1: I don't need to raise the basket, yep. On baseball
Speaker 1: shortened games, they put guys on second base who didn't
Speaker 1: earn a spot to be there. You know we're a
Speaker 1: couple of that, all right, One hour in the books.
Speaker 1: Two more to go. Fernando Tatis Junior, the padre short
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