1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Want to encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: You can also go sign up for our YouTube channel. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: We are everywhere all over social you will be able 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: to subscribe for free. 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And I was talking with 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: some people last night who do sort of analysis, and 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: they said, in the short term, this is beneficial to 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Republicans because there's lots of people out there, probably many 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: of you listening right now, who said, well, I'm even 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: more likely to go vote right now to send a 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: message about how much you disapprove of what's going on 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: with the FBI raid. My concern is that that's a 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: little bit of a sugar rush, because ultimately what it's 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: doing is distracting from Joe Biden being the centrality of 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: the mid term election and all of his failures as president, 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: and making Donald Trump the focus, which can motivate Democrats 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: as well on that side. But now that the judge yesterday, 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: for those of you who did not hear us talking 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: about it live in the third hour of the program, 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: has essentially let it be known that he's going to 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: release some of the details of the affid David Buck, 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: I think this story is going to disappear in a 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: hurry now. Yesterday Alan Dershowitz told us that he ultimately 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: thinks Merritt Garland will come out and have a coomy 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: like press conference where he castigates Donald Trump for what 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: he believes are violations of the law, but also says 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: much like happened with Hillary Clinton and her emails, but 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: also says this shouldn't be a criminal charge because you're 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: unlikely to be able to get a conviction. Now we'll 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: see whether or not Dersha Wooz ends up being correct there. 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: But as I was thinking about this, a lot yesterday 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: in the wake of the show and reading about the affidavit, 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: and certainly it's going to be redacted and we won't 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: know all the details, but presuming that that comes out 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: next week, Buck, I think the fever dream of Democrats 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: that this was some sort of master stroke by Merrick 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Garland and he's finally got Donald Trump dead to rights 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: is going to rapidly recede, much like we saw happen 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: frankly with January sixth, then, in particular the Cassidy, the 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Abby Hutchinson. Cassidy Hutchinson, I can't even remember her first 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: name anymore, which I think my point even more clear 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: here her testimony, remember what, it's such a bombshell. They 53 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: scheduled a brand new jan six hearing, and she said 54 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: that Trump had tried to choke a Secret Service agent 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: and grab the wheel to be able to drive to 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: the Capitol. And that story is completely gone and no 57 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: one cares about it now. Buck. I think that this 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: raid on Mara Lago story, if we get even a 59 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: redacted version of the affidavit released sometime next week, I 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: think it's gonna vanish, just like this Hutchinson story did 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: about Trump. It's far less scandalous than that one, and 62 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be gone and Democrats are going to be 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: left holding empty, empty handed stories. Here one more time. 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: You have to think about this as different audiences. Right, 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: there's the CNN watching New York Times subscribing lib Trump 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: derangement syndrome core. Yeah, right, I know that's a that's 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but everyone knows I'm talking about 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the double masked five Ukraine flag pronoun announcing Hillary Biden 69 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Obama voting Libs right that they believe that they and 70 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: I think they demand now a steady diet of this 71 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: anti Trump stuff. January six, the now the Mara Lago 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: raid and the prosecution of the former Trump organizations CFO. 73 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean this was that it's politically motivated, folks, This 74 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: this stuff is going on in this country. The guy, 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: under normal circumstances, they would not have hounded him in 76 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: this way. He maybe would have paid a fine, but 77 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: they want to get a felony charge or you know, 78 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: a felony plea from him. He's gonna serve like two 79 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: months in the seniors wing at Rikers Island. But Bragg, 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: the DA in New York wanted to serve this up 81 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: for he wants the Scouts to live base. So so 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: those people, to your point, Clay, about how this stuff fades, 83 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: they just this. This is a business model now for 84 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: the lib media. They have to feed oh Trump, because 85 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: that's the only thing that really moves the needle for 86 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: them in a significant way. They don't want to talk 87 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: about the economy. They surely don't want to talk about 88 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: the border, they don't really want to talk about crime, 89 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: all these areas that matter to people where the Democrats 90 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: are failing. And then that brings us to Okay, so 91 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: what about the voters who are going to make the 92 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: difference in the states we always talk about, you know, Arizona, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Georgia, 93 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: Nevada for the for Senate purposes, and then then other 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: states obviously in other close races across the country. Do 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: they care about this? And I think to your point, 96 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: the answer is very quickly going to be. Now, this 97 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: is a document dispute that is in the courts between 98 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: a former president and possible future president and the current 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. There's going to be nothing in this. 100 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: If you're a person who is capable of voting for either, 101 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: let's just say, doctor os or Fetterman, are you going 102 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: to see this? You know, if you're putting yourself in 103 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: that persuadable mindset, are you going to see the memo 104 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: next week and say to yourself, Oh, wow, those redactions 105 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: look real scary about the things that no one got 106 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: access to and that now are going to be in 107 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: the National archives. And and and I'm falling asleep even saying yeah, 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: it's not going to be enough. So that that also 109 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: means that I think the fear of a prosecution of 110 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: Trump is also dropping down substantially right now, because how 111 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: many times have they said, oh, we've got them. Remember 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: there was like a joke at CNN the walls are 113 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: closing in on Trump. The walls were closing in every 114 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: two weeks. The walls never actually closed in. Do we 115 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: think it's going to happen this time on this No way, folks. 116 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: And I actually think the warrants, the leaks, and now 117 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: the affidavit being becoming public is actually undercutting Merrick Garland 118 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: a ton, because everything that they've put out there, people 119 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: immediately said, well, this must be a really serious deal 120 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: if they decided to raid, and then they tried to 121 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: put out with the Department of Justice. This was the 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: essence of we had to go in now, there were 123 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: exigent circumstances, the country was a danger, and then you 124 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: find out late Merrick Garland debated about this for weeks. 125 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: The warrant was signed off on on Friday, and then 126 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: they didn't go in until Monday. And so I think 127 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: what's going on here is there's no more oxygen left 128 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: in this story, and the sexy aspect of the story 129 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: has basically all been utilized, and I think it's going 130 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: to kind of vanish, just like and I want you 131 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: to think about it, the sugar high that came out 132 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: of that explosive, unplanned January sixth hearing with Hutchinson. This 133 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: girl sitting there talking all about the choking and the 134 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: trying to drive the car, and everybody front page news pictures. 135 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: Oh she's a hero. Can you believe what she said? Oh, 136 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: it's supported by or not supported by the secrets, And 137 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: it's gone. That's six weeks ago. That story is completely 138 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: dead and gone. The entire January six hearings in general 139 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: buck dead and gone. It's a disposable story that doesn't 140 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: really change the trajectory of anything. So my hope and 141 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: thought now is if we get that affidavit even redacted 142 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: next week, all of the sizzle of this story is gone, 143 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: and we're going to cycle back to okay, what is 144 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: the story? Just in time for Labor Day, and that's 145 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: when Republicans need to start making the case against a 146 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the worst president of any of our lives. 147 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Does your gut tell you though that? Remember I said 148 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: everybody all the time, never underestimate the ability of unprincipled 149 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: leftists to do absolutely anything because they have no principles 150 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: to defend right. So whatever works, they won't do anything 151 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: because it can be kind of productive, but whatever works, 152 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: they will do. You think they might have some kind 153 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: of October surprise planned, as in, in the context of 154 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: what we're talking about with the mar Lago raid. Is 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: this the precursor to something else that they're planning. Are 156 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: they trying to pile on or is it just an 157 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: Are they going to extend the mar Lago raid with 158 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: something else? Or was this their best shot? I mean, 159 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: I know this is just a what does your gut 160 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: tell you? But because it's a little early, right, they 161 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: could have waited until September October. Yeah, this so I 162 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: tend to think that this raid effectively lets you know 163 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: that there is nothing to January sixth in terms of 164 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: charges that we're going to come for Trump. And my 165 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: thought was that they would try to get him on 166 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: some flimsy conspiracy charge. But if you're signing off on 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: this warrant and this raid, it feels like this is 168 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland by doing this saying I'm holding Trump accountable, 169 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: but you are just grasping at straws because I really 170 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: don't believe this was connected to January sixth. Then to 171 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: your as we've discussed, I mean, this would have been 172 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: such an overbroad raid that they're desperately hoping that they're 173 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: going to get some evidence associated with January six We 174 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,119 Speaker 1: know that they effectively ran a massive hoovering fishing expedition, 175 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,479 Speaker 1: because otherwise, how do you end up with the president's 176 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: passports if you're doing a targeted, direct and proximate search 177 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: where you have specific objects which you're looking for. I 178 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: think they were hoping to get him. I think they 179 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: have failed, and I just I think that this story 180 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: by next week when the affidavit comes out, it's not 181 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: the fever dream that Democrats hoped that there was something 182 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: so extreme. So are we not going to see even 183 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: we're not going to see Trump or Hunter Biden prosecuted Clay. 184 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: I can taste the stakes already. Body, Well, so this 185 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: actually to me and I understand people out there who 186 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: are like, oh, they're going to take Trump away in cuffs, 187 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: and this is the argument. I think this raid is 188 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: so flimsy and so lacking in substance that it makes 189 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: me believe that Merrick Garland is even weaker than I thought, 190 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: and so he's more likely to do nothing right now 191 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: than he is to do something. I think it's worth 192 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: reminding everybody don't overestimate the Democrats' ability to strategize, don't 193 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: underestimate how insidious they can be, but don't overestimate their 194 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: genius either. Remember their belief was that when the Mulla 195 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: report dropped, it would have created it was going to 196 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: create this political tidal wave. So then the ten counts 197 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: of obstruction we're going to be used to remove Donald 198 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Trump from office. That was the and then the Mueller 199 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: report came out and Attorney General bar did a very 200 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: good job with this. I don't think he gets enough credit, 201 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: came forward and said this is what we know, this 202 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: is what we don't know. The Mulla Report, and the 203 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: thing went down in flames. Essentially, they didn't have what 204 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: they thought they had, or they didn't have the public 205 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: sentiment and political pressure to get Republicans to go along. 206 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: I think with this they may have miscalculated again, which 207 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: makes sense because when you have a derangement syndrome, in 208 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: this case Trump derangement syndrome, maybe your judgment's a little off. 209 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: I also think Buck, when you're selling Donald Trump as 210 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: the anti Christ, I mean, they really are. He's the 211 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: worst human being who's ever existed. He's the worst president nice. 212 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: That's the challenge, right, They have set the expectation, you 213 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: don't take the anti Christ down on mishandling a confidential 214 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: document because it doesn't live up to the expectations of 215 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: how awful he is. I think they have so oversold 216 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: the extreme awfulness of Donald Trump to the American public 217 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: that whatever minor misques that they are trying to focus 218 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: on now don't rise up high enough to the expectation 219 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: of awfulness that they put in place, either with their 220 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: base or with moderate voters, and certainly not with Trump 221 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: supporters who were gonna say wait, you told us this 222 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: guy was, you know, paying prostitutes to give golden showers 223 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: and uh, and now you're telling us that he may 224 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: have accidentally misfiled four year old piece of paper. I 225 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: mean the same day. That's right, was pointing out from 226 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: the beginning. But this is just such a minor thing 227 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: in the in the grand scheme of you know, if 228 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: you if you sell, there's an easy, easy analogy. If 229 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: you were like, hey, this Jeffrey Dahmer guy. He remember 230 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer back in the day, had a serial killer 231 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: chopping people up, had him all in the refrigerators. If 232 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: you told people that that was Jeffrey Dahmer, he was 233 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: a serial killer. And then you executed a sort search 234 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: warrant at Jeffrey Dahmer's house and you were like, it 235 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: turns out that he's been removing the labels off of 236 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: his mattresses, and we're taking him down for this. You'd 237 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, well, that might be a violation of 238 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: some sort of minor law, but it ain't chopping bodies up. 239 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: They've sold Trump as the serial killer, and now they're 240 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: trying to get him for removing the mattress tag. So 241 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Trump's arrangement syndrome distilled. We actually have a SoundBite of 242 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: this and it relates to Hunter Biden as well. 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That's my pillow 262 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: dot com promo code Clay and Buck or call eight 263 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: hundred seven nine two three two six nine Welcome back 264 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck. We were just talking Trump derangement 265 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,479 Speaker 1: syndrome and how it's still is so pervasive in the media. 266 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: There's a guy named Sam Harris who is a He's 267 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: a lib public intellectual. I think he's done some neuroscience research. 268 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm not super familiar with his body of work, to 269 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: be honest. I've seen him on the Bill marshow once, 270 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I think. But he just went out and said the 271 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: quiet part out loud a little bit. He was on 272 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: some podcast and he said, and I'll paraphrase, then he 273 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: can actually hear it that he does. He wouldn't have 274 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: cared if there were dead bodies in Hunter Biden's basement. 275 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: The media was doing the right thing by covering up 276 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: that story play two, and at that point, a Hunter 277 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Biden literally could have had a core of children in 278 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: his basement. I would not have cared. First of all, 279 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: it's Hunter Biden, It's not Joe Biden. But whatever scope 280 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's corruption is if you if we could 281 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: just go down that rabbit hole endlessly and understand that 282 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: he's getting kicked backs from Hunter Biden's deals in Ukraine 283 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: or whatever else. Right, it is infinitesimal compared to the 284 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: corruption we know Trump is involved in. It's like, it's 285 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: like it's like a firefly to the sun. Right, it 286 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: doesn't even stack up against Trump University. Right, Trump University 287 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: as a story is worse than anything that could be 288 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: in Hunter Biden's laptop. In my view, that doesn't answer 289 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: the people who say I want to dump in here, 290 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: because Clay he's not a dumb guy. He's a knowledgeable guy. 291 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean what he said is so assinine that it 292 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: actually I mean, Trump University is worse than selling the 293 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: US foreign policy with regard to China, which is what 294 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party was giving a hundred millions of 295 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: dollars for. It's it's a derangement, it's a mental it's 296 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: effectively a Trump induced mental illness that lives still suffer from. Well, 297 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: what I give him credit for is actually saying what 298 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: we all know happen, which is there was a conspiracy 299 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: to rig the election in twenty twenty on behalf of 300 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: many highly sourced and prominent left wing government officials, certainly 301 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: media members, and they all conspired to keep Trump from 302 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: winning re election. And to me, I know, we've talked 303 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot about it on the show. We've had Miranda Divine, 304 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: who did phenomenal work at the New York Post surrounding 305 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop. We are still under discussing what 306 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: happened when that story came out and every big tech 307 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: platform essentially disallowed the sharing of that story, and the 308 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: fifty one top level government officials who came out and 309 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: said this is Russian disinformation, and then that all led 310 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: into Trump getting banned by every single social media platform. 311 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: And this all ties into me with Alex Barrenson and 312 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: what we've all clearly seen, which is there's a rig job. 313 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: In effect, the Biden administration is censoring anybody who disagrees 314 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: with him. 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Reliable sources, which is 334 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: certainly an oxymoron, will be no more. And I'm reading 335 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: right now a story out there that CNN's boss has 336 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: warned CNN employees more changes are coming and that people 337 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: may not like or understand what is going to happen 338 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: as they continue to fire and move on. I don't 339 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: think we even mentioned it on the show. Jeffrey Tuban 340 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: out as well. Of course, Tuban memorably caught treating his 341 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: body like an amusement park on the on the I 342 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: think it was a New Yorker bloom call. I believe 343 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: it is auto erotica, is what you could describe it as. Yes, 344 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: and so anyway, he has gone, and now we have 345 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Brian Stelter gone. But we did not want Brian Stelter 346 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: to ride off into the CNN sunset without us giving 347 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: proper respect to his tenure at CNN. So this is 348 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: a I think it's like a forty five second medley 349 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: of some of the best tash. This is an homage 350 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: to Scoulter himself on his way at the door. Enjoy. 351 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: That would be funny if it wasn't so insidious ginning 352 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: up hate. CNN is so much bigger than any single individual. 353 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: Too much of the US media chatter is distorted to 354 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: the point of being dishonest. Don't be so hateful? Is 355 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: that too much to ask? I don't know. Maybe just 356 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: trust and media. Has CNN lost trust? We're living in 357 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: two different realities supported by two different news worlds. It's 358 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: almost like we need two kinds of newscasts, or two 359 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: versions of the weather report. The forecast is pretty sunny 360 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: for the vaccinated, but it's quite bleak in some states 361 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: for the unvaccinated. I'm glad that we work in a 362 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: bill where everyone's vaccinated. Trump's odd behavior with Vladimir Putin 363 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: is compelling so many people to ask, what does Putin 364 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: have on Trump? Has Trump been compromised? Oh? So sad? 365 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: You know. I gotta tell you. Stephen King or do 366 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: you do you ever read any of his books? I did. 367 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: You've never read a Stephen Stephen King book in my life. 368 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: Are any of them actually worth it? Are they all 369 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: about possessed toaster Robbins that people? I remember I was 370 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: probably in seventh grade and I read I think it 371 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: was Salem's Lot, which if I remember correctly, is about vampires. 372 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: Pretty good. Terrified me. Really, I remember when Stephen King, 373 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: I believe this is true, when he was writing Pet Cemetery. 374 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: He's so scared himself that he wasn't able to finish 375 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: the book for a while, which is that I did 376 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: respect that. I mean, I I rented pet Cemetery from 377 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the video rental store when I was a kid without 378 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: telling my parents. Not a good move. I got ten 379 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: minutes into it, I turned it off. I couldn't do it. 380 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Remember back in the day, in those eighties movies, I 381 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: remember watching Nightmare on Elm Street. Can I just say, 382 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: why anybody ever lived on Elm Street? And the same 383 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: thing now with stranger things like why is anybody staying 384 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: in Hawkins, Indiana in the first place? Real estate values 385 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: probably plummeted after the Underworld or whatever. Yeah, right, I 386 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: would think that maybe if you really cared about your family, 387 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: you'd move out of Hawkins, Indiana or not live on 388 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: Elm Street. But so scary way, I'm not done with 389 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: this because we'll get Stephen King tweeted about Stelter, which 390 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: is why I just you know, we're talking about scariest 391 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: movie you've ever seen, the one that left to forget 392 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: about how you feel about it. Now, the scariest movie 393 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: you have ever seen is the one, the one that 394 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: it has impacted my life the most and continues to 395 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: is Jaws. Scariest movie I'm just saying. I'm saying, in 396 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: terms of impacting the largest number of people, no movie 397 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: has been more impactful in film history than Jaws, because 398 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: every single person right now listening to us, if you 399 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: go out and you get past waist deep in the ocean, 400 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: you are thinking to yourself, I'm gonna get killed by 401 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: a shark. There's no other movie you can point to 402 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: like that. Now in terms of just a scary movie 403 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: that stuck with me for a long time, I'm gonna 404 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: go probably, I'm gonna go with the Conjuring. The Conjuring 405 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: movies are so good. See it. For me, it's The Exorcist, 406 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: and I had I have a special connection to the 407 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Exorcist because I lived on the street in Georgetown where 408 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the now famous Exorcist steps are. Yeah, and I walked 409 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: past that every single day from that scene at the 410 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: very end, but also that part of Georgetown, right next 411 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: to the university in particular, they use it for some 412 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: of the scenes. So I thought The Exorcist was the 413 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: scariest move I ever seen. More recently, there's a movie 414 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: called The Witch, which is about Salem Witch Trial era 415 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: New England. Very eerie, well done, scary movie and no 416 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: slashers stuff. The slasher stuff I just think is I 417 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: don't need to see all the chocolate syrup on the 418 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: screen all the time, like it's just it's just gross. 419 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: It's I know that stuff, doesn't I get. I get 420 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: more wrapped up in the psychological So I watched a 421 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: movie called The Mothman Prophecies, which no one may have 422 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: ever seen. I mean, I think Richard gear was in it. 423 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I was terrified by that. But the 424 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: last time that I was scared to sleep, I watched 425 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: Paranormal Activity, the original. The original Paranormal was successful movies, 426 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: dollars and dollars out of all time. My family was 427 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: gone and my wife I think, had the kids at 428 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: their mom's house or something like that for a weekend trip. 429 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: And I was still working, and I went to watch 430 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: that by myself and I left. I was solo. And 431 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: it's not like I was that, you know, I was 432 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: like thirty five. I left every light on in the house. 433 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: I locked my bedroom door as if we're going to 434 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: keep a ghost out, say, I blocked it. I blocked 435 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: it with like you know something, that was to keep 436 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: the door from being able to be opened. And I 437 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: could not fall asleep. That's why you need to have 438 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: a glock. Nineteen would any would it do anything against 439 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: a ghosts. No yet you feel safer anyway. I got 440 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: taken when I was a summer camp. I got taken 441 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: on a rainy day, like a rain day because it 442 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: couldn't do the camp stuff to the Blair Witch Project. 443 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and we were and we were in a 444 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: camp out in the woods that wasn't as afraid of 445 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: the Blair which you had to go out to a 446 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: little cabin in the woods right afterwards, you know, you know, 447 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: a twelve year old or whatever, after watching that, when 448 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: that one scared me, all right, So it took a 449 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: little a little digression there down scary movies. Um. But 450 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: Stephen King tweeted this out. The one show on CNN 451 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I never missed was Reliable Sources with Brian. I thought 452 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: it was sad. It has been an invaluable window into 453 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: how the media covers itself. Today CNN canceled it. How 454 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: are people that are ostensibly smart and creative so illusional 455 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: and often it makes me not want to read? I 456 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: saw that tweet and it made me not want to 457 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: read Stephen king books, not that I'm spending a lot 458 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: of time on them now, And I just I wonder 459 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: on some level how many writers have alienated huge percentages 460 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: of their audience just by getting on social media, because 461 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 1: I don't really care about Stephen King's politics at all. Right, 462 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: if you like scary books, you like scary movies. I'll 463 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: give you another example. I was in Park City yesterday 464 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: and they have a great little bookstore, I think Dolly's Bookstore, 465 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: right in the center of Park City. There and Jack Carr, 466 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: who I bought the Terminal List, like, I want to 467 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: read it. He he lives in park City. Oh, I 468 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: didn't know. So I I went in there and I 469 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: picked up another book and I was like, Oh, this 470 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: looks like an you know, it's the recommended recommended table. 471 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: I picked it up and I was like, Oh, this 472 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: looks interesting. Let me read who's the author. I flipped 473 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: it over and the author had pronouns in the bio 474 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: and I I'm not going to buy this book. I 475 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: was a buck. I was one hundred percent go to 476 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: buy it. There was part of it said in Nashville. 477 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this sounds it's kind of like 478 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: a spooky book. I was like, this sounds really interesting. 479 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: Who's the author? I thought maybe because it mentioned Vanderbilt 480 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: University where I went. It mentioned it. I was like, oh, 481 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: maybe I know who this person is. I flipped it 482 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: over to read the bio, and they had pronouns in 483 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: the bio. I didn't know who the person was. I'm 484 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: not sure that I would know anyway, And I said, 485 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm not buying this book. So, I mean just by 486 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: reading the author's pronouns in the bio, I said, I 487 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: can't enjoy this book because I know now too much 488 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: about the politics of the of the author. I mean, 489 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: you know everything you need to know actually that you're 490 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: not going to enjoy the rest of the experience. Eight 491 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two two eight eight two. Folks, what 492 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: do you think the what should we ask folks about 493 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: right now? What's what's the call right now? Are we 494 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: asking people scariest movie? We asked them serious though, or 495 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: Republican's gonna win? I like, scariest movie. I think we've 496 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: talked about this before, but it never gets old. And 497 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: I also was going to make fun of Brian Stelter 498 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: for that tweet where he talked about how he just 499 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: curled up in the fetal position and started crying. COVID 500 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: so scary. So I lent hope and I cried for hour. 501 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: But I but since I just told everybody that I 502 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: left all the lights on and locked the door after 503 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: a scary movie, maybe I'm a bigger woos than Stelter 504 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: is even I don't know. Maybe that's you know what 505 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: I actually thought, it was really scary. What I saw 506 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: I was really young was the bram Stokers Dracula with 507 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves where he's like, that's whoa, it's Dracula underrated. 508 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: You know, that's a remake of essentially Nose Farrado. You 509 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: ever watched Nose Farado back in the days, well, and 510 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty true to the actual bram Stoke that's right novel, 511 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: but even some of the show amazing. One of the 512 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: greatest novels of all time, I would argue for what 513 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: it is. One of some of the shots that they 514 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: did in bram Stoker's Dracula are almost incredibly evocative of 515 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: the nose Feratu version, which was I think the first 516 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: horror movie ever made. It's a silent film, and I 517 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: remember writing about it in college. I took all these 518 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: crazy movie courses in college, which, uh, I'm an expert 519 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: or was for a while on German and Russian cinema. 520 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Good deal. Not a lot of people to compete with 521 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to Germany. How gonna go on? The 522 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: Deep Dive podcast plays Russian cinema The Cabinet of Doctor Kalighari. 523 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what percentage of people out there who 524 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: have actually watched it, but tip about Russian cinema and literature. 525 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: It is cold and it is depressing, but it will 526 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: expand your mind. We are in Salt Lake City, staying 527 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: in another hotel, one of the many we traversed this 528 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: year as we're meeting our listeners. When we checked in, 529 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: we didn't give it a second thought. We ended over 530 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: a credit card, of course, that's how you pay for 531 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: the room. 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Apparently more big changes underway over there. 554 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Turns out you can only spend so many years lying 555 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: to everybody about how you're a neutral, objective news network 556 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: when you're actually just a place for anti Trump fanatics 557 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: to gather together. But Clay found some old school, you know, 558 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: because with the homage two reliable sources and mister Stelter's 559 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: time at CNN continues. Here is Yeah, I was just 560 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, Buck, I'll get you to do some Stelter voice. 561 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: I will start this. This to me personifies Brian Stelter 562 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: and what a huge was he is. Again, I say 563 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: that recognizing that many of you, because you just heard 564 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: me say I left all the lights on in the 565 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: house after paranormal activity, might be thinking to yourselves, you 566 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: know what, Clay, I think Stelter would take you in 567 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: a fight. Stelter might just totally wipe me out after 568 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: the confession that I just made about paranormal activity. But 569 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: I did want to read this. I wish we had 570 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: some dramatic music in the background here, but this is 571 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Stelter from twenty twenty. Last night, I hit a wall, 572 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: gutted by the death toll, disturbed by the government's shortcomings, 573 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: dismayed by political rhetoric that bears no resemblance to reality, 574 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: worried about friends who are losing jobs, kids who are 575 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: missing school, and senior citizens who are living in fear. 576 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: Buck take it away in the Stelter voice, I crowded 577 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: bed and cried for our pre pandemic lives, tears that 578 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: had been waiting a month to escape. I wanted to 579 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: share because it feels free to do so. Now. It's 580 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: not a time for full invincibility. Jero's are living this, 581 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: hating this like everyone else. When and then it continues, 582 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand people liked this. That's almost I think Twitter 583 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: should be shut down for seventeen thousand people liking this, 584 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: and then he continued. Two days later, he followed up, 585 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: thank you for the thousands of emails and tweets. In 586 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: response to my remarks about the personal emotional toll of 587 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: this crisis at Melissa Brown said it best. It's okay 588 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: to not be okay right now, and it's vital we 589 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: open up to each other when someone asks if you're okay, 590 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: tell the truth. I think we should run some kind 591 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: of a science experiment where we have hashtag science, where 592 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: we just read some of Stelter's tweets from the pandemic 593 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: to a room full of just everyday American men and 594 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: then check to see if they're estrogen levels spike. Because 595 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: I would argue that it's a certainty that the estrogen 596 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: goes through the roof when stelterisms are unleashed if you 597 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: are a grown man and you curl up in the 598 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: fetal position and cry by yourself in your bed on 599 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: a regular basis. First of all, you need massive amounts 600 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: of help. Secondly, I don't understand why you would deserve 601 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: to be praised for sharing that, Like I am a 602 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: grown man and I am so unable to cope with 603 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world. First of all, you're 604 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: a journalist, all right. You're not losing your job. You 605 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: sit and read off a teleprompter and television. Your job 606 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: is in the grand scheme of things, not neither difficult 607 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: nor grandly important. Of course, journalist, I think more than 608 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: any other profession in the world praise themselves over this. 609 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: But being emotionally unstable as a grown man and sharing 610 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: your emotional instability like Stelter did there does not to 611 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: me make me think like, oh, I really want to 612 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: hear more of what this guy is saying, right. I 613 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: hope he gets better, and I hope he stops crying 614 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: one day, like I hope everybody who cries stops. But 615 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: BUCK like the idea that that would make me want 616 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: to watch his broadcast more and think oh, I trust 617 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: this guy's opinion more, which is what he's going for. 618 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: Is like I find it in console. Certainly most people 619 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: don't because they stop to watch severnurs his Whys there 620 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: such a focus on this? You know, I think our friend, 621 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: our friend Sean Hannity did a little Stelter homage on 622 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: his TV show on Fox a night or two ago. Well, 623 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: why do people on the right find find this annoying? 624 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Or not just him annoying, because that's obvious, but the 625 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: whole purpose of his show. There is an entire category 626 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: within news media of people whose jobs are to report 627 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: on the media, that's right, But really their job is 628 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: to name and shame and d platform conservatives whenever possible. 629 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: Their whole purpose is to feed the deranged left that 630 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: is their audience, this idea that everything that's being said 631 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: on talk radio is just stirring up, you know, a 632 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: civil war, and everybody's a white supremacist, who's a Republican 633 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: in the media, all this stuff. So they're just attack dogs, 634 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: and they do it dishonestly. They never debate. I told 635 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: you at the one time I was ever on Stelters show, 636 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: he tried to come at me on something about kind 637 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: of terrorism. He's basically he's saying, how did you know 638 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: this was a Jihottest attack before CNN would say so? 639 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: And I was essentially able to tell him because the 640 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: guy was screaming a lahuak bar I'm doing this for 641 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: isis usually a good indicator of you're coming from with 642 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: the motivation. And they never aired at Clay. They literally 643 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: just pretended like I didn't even appear on the show 644 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: because cowardice for the media that reports on right wing media, 645 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: that's just the standard operating procedure. A men and good riddance, 646 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: sweet Prints. Brian Selter, I saw that Greg Gutfeld offered 647 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: you a job, maybe you should take it. If you did, 648 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: people might actually see you on television instead of on CNN. 649 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: They'd be watching Fox News, and people probably decide they 650 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: probably don't like you very much. You want to trash 651 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: the CDC instead of CNN for a second, I would 652 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: love to do that. CDC's getting some come up, and 653 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: that's coming up. Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the 654 00:36:50,840 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: front lines of m