WEBVTT - #457 Packers Unscripted: As good as it gets 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:20.479 Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.360 I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague, West Hodkowitz. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.280 We're coming to you here from our studios at lambau Field, 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.520 and we are here to talk about a forty two 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.040 to twenty four Green Bay Packers victory over the Oakland 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.200 Raiders on Sunday at lambeau Field. The Packers are six 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.640 and one, maintaining a one game lead in the NFC 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.240 North over the five and two Minnesota Vikings and West 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.640 forty two points on the board for the Packers offense. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.720 A lot of statistics look awfully pretty in this game, 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.960 but one statistics stands out above all others, and it's 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:56.480 the number one, fifty eight point three. You know, this 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.120 is a great point, Mike. And the awesome thing about 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.160 this if you flash back to Friday's Unscripted not I'm 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.640 not trying to pat myself on the back. When you 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.880 asked me key to victory, I said Aaron Rodgers. Aaron 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.920 Rodgers was the key to victory. Because this is what's 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.880 what's great about the NFL. It goes both ways. You 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.200 can have letdowns, you can have come ups, but here's 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.640 the thing, man, Aaron Rodgers needed to be not necessarily perfect, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.520 but he needed to be exceptional in this game without 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.880 Davante Adams, especially dealing with what the Packers were dealing with. Now. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.760 Fortunately for Green Bay, they were able to get Mark 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.400 Quisvel the scantling, and they did have Gerono Way Allison 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.120 available after he passed the concussion protocol on Saturday. But 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.880 it was gonna take this yeoman's effort across the board. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.720 Guys stepping up in Rogers fed them. I mean, Mike, 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:48.160 we talked about this. Eight different receivers catch passes, all 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.440 of them at least two. Four different players catch touchdowns, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.480 Aaron Rodgers five. Excuse me, his five touchdown passes went 0:01:55.520 --> 0:02:00.160 to five. Got so ahead of myself there, But they 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.400 needed to be able to spread the ball around and 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.440 match the Raiders score for score. Early on. They accomplished that. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.799 There was no let up. And I think this showed you, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.360 over sixty minutes, over four quarters, what this offense was 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:18.600 capable of even when Davante Adams is not available. Yeah. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.200 This was the second game in a row actually where 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.880 eight different players caught at least two passes from Rogers. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.600 A couple of other stats from this one. Six players 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.959 with a pass reception of at least twenty yards. Actually 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:36.200 the first time since that the Packers have accomplished that. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.240 Five players, five different players with a touchdown pass. Rogers 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:45.160 got the six touchdown rushing it in himself out of 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.280 thirty one. That's six in completions and five touchdown passes. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.640 That's pretty good ratio. You'll take that any day of 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.160 the week, right, And he throws for four hundred and 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:57.880 twenty nine yards. It's his tenth career four hundred yard 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.680 passing game if you include playoffs. And really what stands 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.640 out to me about that is that in Packer's history, 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.520 there are a bunch of different quarterbacks have had four 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.560 yard passing games. Nobody's had more than one except for Rogers, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.760 and now he's got ten, including to this year. So 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.880 you want to see where this offense is going, where 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.680 it's headed, the progress that has been made. We talked 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.440 a lot obviously Week one, coming back from Chicago playing 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:28.160 that Bears defense. There was a lot to work on here, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.600 and this offense is just hitting its stride. And what 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.440 it's done these last three games without Davante Adams, you 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.880 have to say that can only bode well for the future, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.960 right absolutely, and seeing that these guys get tested in 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.920 different guys rising to the occasion, you know, you know, 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.960 let's start with Mark Quisveldo Scantling. Rogers pointed him out 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.560 during his h you know press conference afterwards, some real 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.839 questions midweek about whether MVS would be available for this game. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.720 I mean, the knee injury, the ankle injury, a lot 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.920 of things he was working through. He kind of comes 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.040 around on Thursday's us to feel a little bit better, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.360 And Rodgers even remarked to him, Hey, you're pretty glad 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.160 he played, didn't you. How many players do you think 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:07.880 he played in that game? Like, off the top of 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:09.440 your head, how many do you think he played? I'm 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:14.680 gonna guess maybe two dozen snaps. He played snaps a 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.640 hundred and thirty three yards, the fifty nine yards shot 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.599 play coming out of the break. MVS was talking about 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.560 that after the game. He said, that's something they've had, 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.800 they haven't really had the right moment to make it. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.080 But the most critical juncture of the game, that big 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.080 swing on the fumble bye Derek Carr in the end zone. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.680 The Packers marched down the field, score touchdown, and then 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.400 receiving the ball after the half a real chance to 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.240 put their foot on the throttle. The big message this 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.200 week from Matt Lafleur was all gas, no breaks. They 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.719 do that a perfectly designed shot play, allowing Rodgers to 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.920 roll out all the time in the world to work 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.919 with Dandy vitally in front of them to pick up 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.560 any extra blockers MVS comes open across the middle. I 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.919 thought that was a critical moment in this game, and 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.599 then honestly just seventy four yards out of nowhere late 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.039 to really seal it on that touchdown past NBS. You 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.320 get him the ball, even if he's dealing with lower 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.839 body injuries like he was in this game. Still a 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.280 lot of speed there and some breakaway talent. Yeah, well, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.480 you said it was the point where this game turned. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.640 It was late in the first half. The Packers are 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.400 leading fourteen to ten. The Raiders are driving there in 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.919 a goal to ghost situation and looking like they're going 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.560 to punch it in to go up seventeen fourteen, and 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.080 the Packers would maybe have one more possession before halftime. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:32.320 But Derek Carr gets careless as he's scrambling out to 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.760 his right. He tries to reach for the pylon when 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.200 he doesn't really have a shot at it, quite frankly, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.359 and he puts the ball in his left hand. The 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.240 ball sports out. He's initially ruled out of bounds, but 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:44.919 I think we all knew when we saw it that 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.360 looks like a fumble and it went inside the pylon, 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.120 in and out of the end zone. The replay review 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:56.040 confirms it's a touch back for the Packers, and instead 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.080 of the Raiders taking a seventeen to fourteen lead, the 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.360 Packers do the elbow up get the touchdown at the 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.880 end of the first half to Jake Kumero get the 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.000 touchdown coming out of halftime that started with the big 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.920 play too mvs. I refer to it in insider inbox 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.800 as a twenty one point swing Derek Carr. When Derek 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.600 Carr lost that fumble, you're thinking the Raiders are going 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.599 to take a seventeen to fourteen lead, And by the 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.440 time Derek Carr got the ball back, he was down 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.200 by eighteen points. So it went from thinking he'd be 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:31.120 up by three to down by eighteen point swing. That's 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.640 that's a lot for the Oakland Raiders to overcome and 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.160 they simply weren't able to overcome it. Not the way 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.480 Aaron Rodgers was commanding this offense exactly. And I think 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.719 that was the biggest key here. The Packers did not blink. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.400 The offense did not blank five touchdowns in their first 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.520 six possessions. Mind you, I did not say five scores 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.000 in their first six possessions. Five touchdowns in their first 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.599 six possessions. That's going to put you in the driver's seat. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.599 And it wasn't just big chunk yardage place. It was 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.920 opportunistic moments. It was being able to execute on their 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.240 down The Packers were six of ten on third downs 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.640 in this game. The Oakland Raiders were very good on 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.040 third downs as well. But what was the biggest difference, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.120 Mike in the biggest difference in every single one of 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.040 these Raiders games so far this season. The Packers won 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.240 the time of possession battle by a little bit, but 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.880 more importantly, they got the takeaways when they needed them. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.920 Derek Carr was really good in this football game. I 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.480 thought he would had a masterful performance. There weren't any sacks. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.200 That wasn't necessarily because of Zadarius and Preston Smith. They 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.800 had pressures. Derek Carr was able to climb the pocket 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.040 appropriately and get the ball out during the times in 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:39.400 which there was collapsing, you know, pressure. But he blinked twice. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.080 He blinked on fumbling the ball in the end zone 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.160 near the end of the first half and then trying 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.920 to force the past to Waller late in the game 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.920 when he had a first down in the red zone. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.000 He didn't need to force that ball and the Packers 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.280 got to take And he also had Josh Jacobs available 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.160 in the flat with no one around him for eight yards, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.240 but he wanted to try making a play. That's not 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.000 a criticism on hum, it's the fact of the matter. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.720 They needed points. But with the Packers not blinking, card 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.800 did in that. You know, ultimately, for all the yardage, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.480 for all these other things you could factor in that. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.040 That's what made the difference in this ball game, and 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.040 the Packers were able to execute. Yeah, the way I 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.320 refer to it, as I thought, Derek Carr played an 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.600 outstanding game except for two plays, and you obviously delineated 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.040 those two plays. But that just goes to show you 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.520 how small the margins are in this league. Because the 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.640 way this game was going It was back and forth, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.800 back and forth all throughout the afternoon. Those two plays, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.319 those two mistakes by Derek Carr huge. And I'll also 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:38.480 say this, I thought the Oakland offensive line played a 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.000 whale of a football game in terms of controlling the 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.640 trenches except for two plays third and goal and fourth 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.480 and goal when they were trying to punch it in 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.880 from the two and from the one with Josh Jacobs. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.880 The Packers defensive front got the best of them at 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.280 the goal line in that sequence, and that was another 0:08:55.800 --> 0:09:00.160 huge swing in this game. The Packers defense, it had 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.120 its issues during the day, Don't get me wrong. They 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.680 gave up a ton of yards and and the Raiders 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.720 certainly felt they were they were in the game pretty 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.560 much all the way through. But when you throw away 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.720 scoring opportunities in the red zone at the goal line, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.600 and not only throwing them away, they weren't even just 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.880 settling for the field goals, but they were turning the 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.520 ball over. There were the two turnovers plus the turnover 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:28.520 on downs. Those stops that the Packers got defensively were 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.400 all that they needed on a day when Aaron Rodgers 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.840 was doing what he was doing. Yeah, there's one thing 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.280 I really want to talk about here because I had 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:36.920 not covered the team as long as you have, so 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.320 I can't really give you the blow by blow of 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.360 what the two thousand ten season was like. And and 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.880 you know what the locker room was like even two 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.920 thousand eleven in some regard when they gave up all 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.959 those yards. But they were so opportunistic for my money 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.679 during my eight seasons full time on this beat. Now, 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.200 the Green Bay Packers, the way this defense is played, 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.040 it's the best situational defense they've had. And I'm counting 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.760 two thousand fourteen. I'm counting two thousand twelve because it 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.000 first between this unit and some of the issues that 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.000 they've had in the past is when a team would 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.720 break an explosive it kind of broke the Packers in 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.760 some ways that oftentimes led to six seven points. They 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.960 had a really hard time being able to rally back 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.760 from an explosive game. This year's team does not have 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.480 that issue. Rogers made the joke in the postgame news 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.280 conference about his conversation with Darnell Savage about, you know, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:22.920 if we could just get a stop outside of the 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.640 red zone, but when they are in the red area, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.280 you look at it now they've had what four or 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.040 five takeaways in the red area this season. They have 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.000 the fourth, you know, the goal line stand on a 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.600 day in which Josh Jacobs had really been pushing and 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.520 running really well. They got the stops when they needed them, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.000 almost the second straight game with a goal line stand 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.719 if they had gotten the call against Detroit Detroit. But 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.280 you know, when I was asking Blake Martinez about this afterwards, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.000 and it just it comes down to a mindset. It 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.559 comes out of mentality, and more than anything else, I 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.800 think it just comes down to the confidence of this unit. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.320 They can take punches, they roll with them, and at 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.040 the end of the day, you can make up whatever 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.079 stats you want. You can talk about total defense, the 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.560 number one defense, and all these different things, but you 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.760 have to have a defense that can win in January 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.760 and February. I feel like this year's team can do that. Certainly, 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.760 there are things to clean up the mistackles. You know, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.240 you want to be able to generate more takeaways. You 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.280 have to be better at the at the first level 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.200 and getting down those premiere backs like Jacobs. But points 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.720 are points, Mike, and when you play well situationally, that's 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.599 what enables you to keep them off the board and 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.960 allow your team to win. Yeah, I think obviously the 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.200 Packers defense is going to get back to work here. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.120 With regard to the big plays, it's been the problem 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.280 now three straight weeks, the big explosive plays they've given up. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.560 As you said, the backbone of this defense is that 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.960 they don't just cave when they give up a big play. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.320 They gave up the one to the Lions opening the 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.200 game last week, held them to a field goal. They 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.280 gave up another one and almost stopped him at the 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.920 goal line. We saw them give up the big plays 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.120 to the Raiders, but they got a couple of crucial 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.559 stops in the fourth quarter down by the goal line. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.480 At the end of the day, they only gave up 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.800 twenty four points. The concern, I think in a lot 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.960 of ways is that in this Raiders game, we saw 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.679 too many whether it was the tight ends receivers, too 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.400 many guys simply running free in the secondary. Some of 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.280 the plays were way too easy. They weren't contested plays. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.360 You weren't just tipping your cap to the other guy saying, hey, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.000 that was a heck of a catch. You know. Against 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:22.760 some good coverage. There were a couple of those, don't 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.520 get me wrong. Well, and and that's what I was 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.400 going to say too, is Kevin King gets the interception 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.160 in the end zone that takes away the one scoring 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.280 opportunity the play right before that, he is in perfect 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.280 coverage and Marcel Eateman just makes a great catch over 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.240 the top of him. Thirty six yard game gets the 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.520 Raiders down into the red zone. You talk about the 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.400 whole short memory thing for a cornerback. Guy makes a 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.640 play on him, It's like he knew he was in 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.760 the right spot, just wasn't able to quite make the 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.400 play on the ball. You tip your cap to the 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.360 other guy. The next play you come back, Adrian Namas 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.800 gets the tip. Kevin King gets the pick in the 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.040 end zone, one cars trying to force it into Waller, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.400 his big tight end who had a huge game. That's 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.880 the thing with this with this defense West. Yes, they've 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.440 got a lot of stuff to clean up. They don't 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.400 want to be giving up those big plays, but they're 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.240 starting to develop this. As you said, it's like a 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.840 mentality when the other team gets in close, no matter 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.840 how they've gotten there, and whether it's a ten play 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.000 drive or a three play drive where the other team 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.120 has marched down the field. When they get in close, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.360 they have a lot of confidence that they can get 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.320 the stops somehow. Now they're not going to get the 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.080 stop every single time, but they got a couple of 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.440 crucial ones on Sunday and that was enough for the 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.760 Packers to maintain the separation to ultimately put this one away. Yeah, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.319 and for the most part, I mean you see that 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.200 the pieces starting to fall into place a little bit. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.679 I mean, they're still trying to figure out what they 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.480 want to do. An inside linebacker B J. Goodson played 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.360 a little bit, or in Burke's played a little bit, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.800 But for the most part, a lot of these guys 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.440 have their rolls carved out. If you can get Darnell 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.880 Savage back, I think that's a big catalyst for this 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.400 defense right now, because you know, Will Redman has done 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.800 some really good things, but you will have Adrian em 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.480 Is playing out of position a lot of the time. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.080 You know, you still had to mix and match a 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.559 lot of this personnel. I think if you get Savage 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.760 back and patrolling the center field like he has been, 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:10.960 you know, with what they've worked through here the last 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.360 few weeks, that's gonna make them better in the long run. Yeah, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.000 I would agree with you there, Um, quickly before I forget, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.920 because I do have a tendency to forget when we 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.320 get talking. 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I I asked 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.680 Dono Allison about it afterwards, you know the game that 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.240 he had here, and he just said clutch. I mean, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.520 I think you have to tip your cap to him. Um, 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.240 Geronto Allison and Mark Quisveldi scantling playing through their injuries 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.200 to give themselves a reps that they did and on 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.480 a short week coming off of a Monday night game, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.480 and they didn't have as much recovery time as you 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.880 would normally have. And you want to talk about toughness. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.480 Geronimo Allison, one of his first catches in this ball 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.640 game was almost a near identical play to the one 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.080 that he got lit up on a week ago. That 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.560 that s his concussion, you know, being able to have 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.000 a short memory in that regard, I thought, I mean, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.560 that said a lot about him as a player. But lastly, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.000 I just need to touch on very quickly, Aaron Rodgers 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.760 and Matt Lafleur the floor. First off, I thought this 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.960 was an exemplary game plan. They spaced out their snaps 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.120 with their receivers. Al Nazard was the leading receiver in 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.480 terms of snap totals fifty one. The second was Jake 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.440 Jake Kumero. They were very selective and smart with how 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.800 they used Allison and MBS. They didn't just run them 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.720 out there seventy place. They rotated, they adapted. The running 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.040 backs became more of a focal point in this offense. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.480 Aaron Jones, something we have yet to talk about, had 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.600 one of the most phenomenal catches you're ever going to 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.720 see by a running back the coverage to get the 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.960 offense up and running early on on a twenty one 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.440 yard touchdown past in which he switched his head. I 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.520 asked him about that play afterwards, and as cool as 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.280 it looked, he said, I mean, you got to understand, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.000 Aaron Rodgers put that right in my bread basket. Out 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.560 of all the throws Rodgers made, and he made thirty 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.320 one of them in this game, that might have been 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.240 the most pretty, just in terms of the arrow that 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.840 he had to drop that into. Danny Vitality catches two 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.880 passes out of the backfield, motioning frequently during this game. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.080 Matt Lafleur's game plan for this was terrific, and Aaron 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.000 Rodgers ability to get the ball out quickly with his 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.560 offensive line the time that they gave him in this game. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.360 That that's the next point I was going to bring 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.520 up because Rogers. Rogers was effusive and rightly so in 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.040 his praise of the offensive line, calling it the best 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.280 pocket he's had to work with all season long. You 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:44.920 look at the you look at the stats, West and 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.280 I know sacks sometimes they're not the tell all stat 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.440 because Rogers can avoid pressure throw the ball away. There 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.720 there are times that the sack is on the quarterback, 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.680 not necessarily on the offensive line, but just looking at 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.800 the raw numbers, the Chicago Bears had five sacks of 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:04.119 Aaron Rodgers in Week one. In the six games since then, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.640 Aaron Rodgers has been sacked seven times. It's only twelve 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.200 sacks now on the season after five sacks in Week one. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.720 This offensive line is playing really, really well and protecting 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.880 him and Rogers. He always has plenty to say, obviously 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.600 about the Bookends blog and bok tr but he made 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.399 a point of talking about the interior three and just 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.800 how stout they were yesterday against the Raiders and giving 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.520 him the pocket to step up into to make throws 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.720 on time, to keep himself and the offense in rhythm. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.959 Talking about center Corey Lindsley Um and guards Billy Turner 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.160 and Elton Jenkins. At the first name escaped me there 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.280 for sex. Yeah, there's a g in Elton that that 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.439 always throws me off. Um, But those guys, Um, it 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.080 just seems like a unit. And you knock on wood 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.159 from a health standpoint, obviously, but it just seems as 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.960 a unit that it's a group that just keeps get 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.960 better and better and better. And more comfortable as a 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.400 whole in this offense. And what Matt Lafleur is asking 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.360 those guys up front to do, and the most underrated 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.680 aspect of them right now, Mike is there athleticism. I 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.639 mean everybody always thinks of three and ten, three and 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.760 twenty pound offensive lineman is you know, just kind of 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.920 plotters and they just sort of hold their ground. No, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.600 they're very athletic. Billy Turner is a good athlete. I 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.840 mean Elton Jenkins has jumped in there and just picked 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.080 up right you know where Lane Taylor was. I mean 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.280 he's taken that torch and continue to run with it. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.280 And they've built that chemistry quickly their fifth start together 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.479 in this matchup. So, I mean, you look at how 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.720 a season goes, and there are sacks, as you said, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.040 but I've always there's a stat. I have an unofficial 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.560 stat obviously, which I always refer to as ol A 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.200 s which is just the bull running through the matador. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:44.520 I mean it was just they get right to the 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.040 quarterback and there's nothing that that player can do. I 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.320 don't know if there's been an l A sack this season. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.680 I mean it's just been something where I believe that 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.480 they've given Rogers a workable pocket to operate from. There're 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.440 gonna be some coverage ones here and there. Yes, there 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.240 was one on Sunday, but for the most part, you know, 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.080 I was just looking at the way Brian Balaga fought 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.520 in this game on the right side. Yeah, the you know, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.000 the Oakland readers don't have that type of pass rusher 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.000 like Khalil mac was in the past. That just is 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.320 gonna be somebody you have to take into account every 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.600 single down. You've got to fear that guy. But they 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.440 are very good and they play to what they want 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.439