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Speaker 1: Welcome into the second hour of Play and Bob. We've

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Speaker 1: got some hot off the presses, so to speak, clips

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Speaker 1: of President Trump from the Oval Office addressing some of

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Speaker 1: the most important news of the day. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the huge announcement. Probably some people are saying the biggest

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Speaker 1: announcement of all announcements. We don't yet know much other

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Speaker 1: than well, here's the President saying it.

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Speaker 2: Listen to him.

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Speaker 3: We'll have maybe before we want to, as you know,

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Speaker 3: the released in Saudi Arabia. We're going to Uee and Qatar,

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Speaker 3: and that'll be I guess Monday night. Some of you

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Speaker 3: are coming with us. I think before then, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a very very big announcement to make, like as

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Speaker 3: big as it gets.

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Speaker 2: And I won't tell you on.

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Speaker 4: What, but it's gonna and it's very positive.

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Speaker 5: And also I tell you if it was negative and positive.

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Speaker 4: I can't keep that. It is really really positive. And

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Speaker 4: that announcement will be made either Thursday or Friday or

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Speaker 4: Monday before we leave. But it'll be one of the

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Speaker 4: most important announcements that have been made in many years

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Speaker 4: about a certain subject, very important subject. So you'll all

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Speaker 4: be here.

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Speaker 6: I'm guessing it's got to be the Abraham Accords with

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Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia coming on board.

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Speaker 1: Yes, does that make sense. That makes the most sense

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Speaker 1: to me too. I don't think it's a breakthrough with Iran.

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Speaker 1: We would have gotten some whispers about that beforehand. And

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Speaker 1: plus I just don't think Iron's ever going to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, We're not gonna get nukes. So I

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Speaker 1: think that Saudi. It might be in agreement with Saudi

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Speaker 1: that is an extension of the Abraham Accords and also

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Speaker 1: a commitment from Saudi to invest you know, a trillion

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Speaker 1: dollars in the US over the next twenty years or something,

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Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, trillion dollars a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: not so much to Saudi.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they'll pay that for a soccer team

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Speaker 2: these days.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's something that I think is a likely possibility.

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Speaker 1: I would love to think that it would be, you know,

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Speaker 1: returning all the hostages from israel I from a Hamas

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Speaker 1: to Israel, but I think that that is now going

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Speaker 1: final push in that operation, as they well should, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to change some dynamics in the Middle East too.

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Speaker 1: I also think it has to be someone that you

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Speaker 1: have good relations with in order to be confident that

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Speaker 1: that deal is going to be able to be announced.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like Iran is constantly shifting. They

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Speaker 1: may say something on Wednesday that's different than what they

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Speaker 1: you can't rely on anything related to what they might

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Speaker 1: say publicly. So I think it would have to be

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Speaker 1: you could say, for instance, with Vladimir Putin and Russia,

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Speaker 1: something like this. So that's why I think the idea

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Speaker 1: of the Abraham Accords being expanded, which is hugely.

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Speaker 6: Important long range in the Middle East. By the way,

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Speaker 6: this is something that is significant that I saw. Also,

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Speaker 6: there's a report that Trump, I don't know if we

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Speaker 6: report that India has basically agreed to zero tariffs on

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Speaker 6: American products inside of their country. That could be utterly

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Speaker 6: transformative in the decades ahead, because India is now the

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Speaker 6: biggest country in the world, and unlike China, which is

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Speaker 6: collapsing in population and I think has already peaked. I

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Speaker 1: And this, then, I think, is a good moment for

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Speaker 1: us to take a look at what is being said

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Speaker 1: now from some very infant, very astute places about the

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Speaker 1: Trump tariffs conversation. Glenn Youngkin one of the I would

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Speaker 1: say top five, maybe top ten, top five governors in

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Speaker 1: America right now in Virginia doing a great job and

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Speaker 1: also a former very senior level executive, and he was

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Speaker 1: the CEO of the Carlisle Group, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the governor of Virginia, and like I said, a guy

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Speaker 1: who also understands private industry saying that, well, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you hear it from him.

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Speaker 2: This has cut three.

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Speaker 7: I expect that long term we will have an accelerated

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Speaker 7: growth and I'm very optimistic. I think in the near term,

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Speaker 7: as the President resets these imbalanced trade relationships and restores

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Speaker 7: fiscal responsibility into Washington, we're going to see this location.

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Speaker 7: It's just a reality. But what I do firmly expect

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Speaker 7: is investment from companies around the world to accelerate.

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Speaker 2: I expect job growth to accelerate.

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Speaker 1: I think you're already beginning to see some of that.

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Speaker 1: The jobs numbers. This is Scott Bessen. This has cut

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Speaker 1: one in the first one hundred days. You need to

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Speaker 1: hear about these jobs. Remember, it's not all government, you know,

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Speaker 1: make believe jobs, or at least low show jobs. It's

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Speaker 1: jobs in the actual economy. This is from the Treasury

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Speaker 1: Secretary Play One.

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Speaker 8: The core components of the Trump economic agenda are trade,

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Speaker 8: tax cuts, and deregulation. These are not standalone policies. They

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Speaker 8: are interlocking parts of an engine designed to drive economic

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Speaker 8: growth and domestic manufacturing. Tax Cuts and cost savings from

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Speaker 8: deregulation raised real incomes for families and businesses. Terrrifts create

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Speaker 8: an incentive for reshoring jobs and fair trade, and deregulation

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Speaker 8: complements teriffs by making it easier to invest in energy

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Speaker 8: and manufacturing projects. Already, this agenda is bearing fruit. In

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Speaker 8: the first hundred days the new administration, four hundred and

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Speaker 8: sixty four thousand new jobs were added to the economy.

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Speaker 1: That people just need to give this some time, And

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Speaker 1: I think what you're seeing here is First of all,

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Speaker 1: I just fifteen years in conservative media. All in the

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Speaker 1: beginning of this, when I got into this, we would

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Speaker 1: always hear we need private industry minds in government. We

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Speaker 1: need people who understand how jobs are created in the economy,

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Speaker 1: not by siphoning money from taxpayers to people who don't

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Speaker 1: actually necessarily do anything or add anything with some of

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Speaker 1: these government with some of this government bloat.

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Speaker 2: We have this.

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Speaker 1: Now in a way we not only on the advisors,

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Speaker 1: but Trump himself, right, somebody who understands the private sector.

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Speaker 1: You look at even Scott Bessant, you compare him to

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Speaker 1: Biden's Treasury secretary Janet Yellen. Yellen is an academic economist. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's who is running the Treasury before. Bessant is a

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Speaker 1: be right about the trajectory of economic growth, about what

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Speaker 1: was actually going to happen in the global economy. We

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Speaker 1: have doors and practitioners now, Clay, not theorists and faculty

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and again, I think that's why you know, the

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Speaker 6: sometimes have unrealistic expectations of what is capable of doing

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Speaker 6: with the ship of state. And I've had this analogy

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Speaker 6: made to me a lot over the years. You know,

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Speaker 6: in the world of sports, the smaller the team, the

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Speaker 6: quicker you can adjust the direction. So if you're a

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Speaker 6: basketball coach, it's like a speedboat. You can change a

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Speaker 6: couple of players. You can turn it around football teams

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Speaker 6: like an aircraft carrier. The United States is the largest

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Speaker 6: floatable ship on the planet. It's very hard to turn

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Speaker 6: it in any particular direction. Now, sometimes that can be

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Speaker 6: good because if people make really poor choices, then the

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Speaker 6: degree to which they can shift the direction of the

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Speaker 6: country is limited. But you've made the argument for years here,

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Speaker 6: and it's a pessimistic one, but I think there's some

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Speaker 6: truth to it that the president doesn't largely matter because

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Speaker 6: the apparatus surrounding the president is such that they're going

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Speaker 2: And you made that are Biden was a test of

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Speaker 2: my theory.

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, Biden was a real world experiment of is

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Speaker 1: it the machinery and not the man? With Trump, That's

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Speaker 1: obviously not the case, but I'm just saying it can

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Speaker 6: Well, and this is why I think Elon Musk has

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Speaker 6: been so frustrated. And look, I love that Elon Musk

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Speaker 6: and Scott Bessant and Howard Ludnick and all of these

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Speaker 6: guys that are super successful outside of government are in

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Speaker 6: government trying to do their best. Trump is a great

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Speaker 6: example of that too, but in sports, and I've never

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Speaker 6: seen it applied in politics, but I love the concept,

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Speaker 6: and it's such an interesting one. There's something called win

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Speaker 6: over replacement value, and I think you can apply it

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Speaker 6: to all of your life. It's such an interesting concept.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's basically a war, you know, win above

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Speaker 6: replacement for every player. And I mentioned Aaron Judge is

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Speaker 6: the best player in baseball right now statistically across the board.

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Speaker 6: His stats a New York Yankee player are off the charts.

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Speaker 6: He has worth multiple wins compared to someone that might

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Speaker 6: apply it to politics. How much better is Trump not

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Speaker 6: only than any other Republican but than Kamala? I think

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Speaker 6: massively right because over every day, every decision, the trajectory

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Speaker 6: the judgments Trump is making versus what Kama is making

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Speaker 6: argue that it is impossible for any president to move

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Speaker 6: think it's important to understand the larger construct. There are

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Speaker 6: eight thousand different actions, and the reality is Trump is

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Speaker 6: And if you are out there saying he needs to

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Speaker 6: move faster and he needs to break more things, I

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Speaker 6: respect it. I would just point out that historically, no

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Speaker 6: think that's true. And they're trying to make government move

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Speaker 6: more like a business. And if you have ever run

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Speaker 6: for better or worse, you make a decision and buck

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Speaker 6: One of the management lessons that I think I've learned

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Speaker 6: is it's better to make a wrong decision than not

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Speaker 6: do anything. And some people think that's crazy, but actually

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Speaker 6: it's important because it's a wrong decision.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that at the CIA farm, this

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Speaker 1: is our training facility, that they would always talk about

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Speaker 1: in the context of counter ambush, somebody's trying to take

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Speaker 1: when you are under threat, the worst thing you can

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Speaker 1: do freeze is nothing. The worst thing you can do

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Speaker 1: is I don't want to make the wrong decision, so

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Speaker 1: I make no decision yes and pay with your life

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Speaker 1: broader principle there. You got to just do sometimes because

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Speaker 1: discussed that moving as fast as possible, Moving as fast

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Speaker 1: we've already seen for all of our adult for all

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Speaker 1: of our lives, that can always fall back on inaction

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Speaker 3: It takes two to tango, right, But no, I do.

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Speaker 3: I think that there are tremendous benefits to the Canadian citizens,

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem. It's not going to happen. One two.

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Speaker 6: If it did happen, the devil are in the details.

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Speaker 6: it in the new house that we're building. It's what

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Speaker 6: I love about it is it's one of those old

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Speaker 6: school maps. Buck Do you remember when used to be

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Speaker 6: able to pull down the map and the teacher would

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Speaker 6: pull out a ruler or whatever and they would point

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Speaker 6: to it and it would be this before everybody had

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Speaker 6: the camp had the computers to be able to put

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Speaker 6: everything imaged out there. And it's a map from like

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Speaker 6: eighteen forty and it has the continental United States, and

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Speaker 6: most of the United States is not filled in yet

447
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Speaker 6: we didn't know what the future of the country was

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Speaker 6: going to look like. And I love the ambition, the scope,

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Speaker 6: the metaphor of that unfilled map. And I think that

450
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Speaker 6: is how Trump thinks that the United States is not

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Speaker 6: a fixed and permanent, an already fully formed country, that

452
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Speaker 6: we still have a lot of growth, and I think

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Speaker 6: that is what his expansionist mindset represents, whether it's Greenland,

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Speaker 6: whether it's Canada, whether it's Panama, and making us think

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Speaker 6: in different ways. But that to me is the challenge

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Speaker 6: of Canada. I'm not sure even if it's a great idea,

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Speaker 6: and I do think it would be good for the

458
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Speaker 6: economy overall, that the Canadian voters would actually agree with

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Speaker 6: much of what we think is important in the United

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Speaker 6: States right now. But if it's not going to happen,

461
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Speaker 6: and I agree with you that it's not gonna happen,

462
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 6: why does Trump know that it's not gonna happen? Because

463
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Speaker 6: why this is? This is where it's a great question.

464
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Speaker 6: I think Trump is a bit of a magical thinker.

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Speaker 6: This is my psychoanalysis of Trump. And what I mean

466
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Speaker 6: by that is, anytime you build something that hasn't been

467
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Speaker 6: built before, you have to be a creative, magical thinker.

468
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Speaker 6: Real estate developers have to see things that haven't occurred

469
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Speaker 6: and believe that they are possible. I think in Trump's mind,

470
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Speaker 6: he believes that anything can be negotiated, and so even

471
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Speaker 6: if there's a small chance of it happening, he thinks

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Speaker 6: by putting it out into the larger discussion, he actually

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Speaker 6: makes it somewhat possible.

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Speaker 2: In the same way, if you say, hey.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to build a two hundred story building, Well

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Speaker 6: maybe that's not going to end up happening, but the

477
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Speaker 6: idea that you think you can expands the Overton window

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Speaker 6: of possibility.

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Speaker 1: Clay thinks that Trump is a man who dreams great dreams,

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Speaker 1: the greatest dreams. We got to call her Dave in Maine.

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Speaker 1: He says he lives right near the Canadian border. Wants

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Speaker 1: to weigh in on this Canada stuff.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, Dave, my gentlemen.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so my family is from Canada, back and forth.

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Speaker 9: I we live right handy to it. My wife used

486
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Speaker 9: to grocery shop there every week. Grew up playing hockey

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Speaker 9: with Canadian kids. My daughter works for a Canadian company,

488
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Speaker 9: and we got a lot of friends of the Canadians.

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Speaker 9: What happened was they were ready, the people that we know,

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Speaker 9: we're ready.

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Speaker 2: To go for Pierre.

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Speaker 9: But the whole fifty first state, Yeah, thing really touched

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Speaker 9: off their national pride and we compete in another sport

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Speaker 9: and we have Canadians come over and compete with us,

495
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Speaker 9: and they got so peed off. They're like, we're not

496
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Speaker 9: coming to the US this year to compete and sorry,

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Speaker 9: you know not don't take it personal, but you know

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Speaker 9: it's an attack on our country. I said, I he's

499
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Speaker 9: just messing with them anyway, but they didn't take it

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Speaker 9: that way. And I always said, too, we should have

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Speaker 9: marketed it as there's ten provinces and three territories in Canada,

502
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Speaker 9: so one state wasn't nearly enough to give them ten states.

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Speaker 9: Give them ten or thirteen states. But all seriousness, that

504
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Speaker 9: is really you know, that's the feedback directly from my

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Speaker 9: best friend lives no Scotiare. And you know another thing

506
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Speaker 9: too about is their news is just horrendous. Like I'm

507
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Speaker 9: always having to re you know, tell them these listen

508
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Speaker 9: to what's the falla their rebel news, you know, try

509
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Speaker 9: to get some all termedive new sources, because their regular

510
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Speaker 9: news they get is just.

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Speaker 2: You know, you think, I mean, it's communist drivel.

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Speaker 1: I know that because I used to I used to

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Speaker 1: do some news back in the day, which I think

514
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Speaker 1: became rebel news or ezra levant. You know, very early

515
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Speaker 1: in my career, I actually appeared on Canadian TV when

516
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: I needed more TV reps. Clay, I was like, Hey,

517
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Speaker 1: how are my Canadian brothers and sisters doing that?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Really, that's where you were honing the skills. Buck is

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Speaker 2: huge in Saskatchewan.

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Speaker 6: You have no idea, I uh, you know, it's thank

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Speaker 6: you for the call. By the way, I do think

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Speaker 6: to answer your question that the fifty first state talk

524
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 6: inside of Canada ignited national pride and it lit on

525
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Speaker 6: fire the hopes of conservative governments because they were seen

526
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Speaker 6: as closer to Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to say this, it reminds me of

528
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Speaker 1: somebody that I know, somebody I spent a lot of

529
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Speaker 1: time with you today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he needs to be named here.

532
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Speaker 1: But when you tell Trump not to talk about something,

533
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: or that he can't talk about something, guess what is

534
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: going to happen. And there are a lot of people

535
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Speaker 1: who said stop with the fifty first state talk. Yeah, Clay,

536
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Speaker 1: So how somebody.

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Speaker 6: Could be I don't know how somebody could be that way.

538
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 6: I also think this ties in. Trump also sees this

539
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 6: as entertainment. I'm gonna be honest with you, and I

540
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 6: know some people were offended by the Pope Trump as

541
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Speaker 6: Pope meme that got shared. I thought it was really funny,

542
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Speaker 6: and I'm not Catholic, so I can't speak on behalf

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Speaker 6: of the Catholic universe about.

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Speaker 1: Trump spoke to this. Let's hear his because, by the way,

545
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Speaker 1: I am Catholic. I went to Jesuit school and did

546
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Speaker 1: all this stuff, and you know know some of the

547
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Speaker 1: things I did not. I was not even vaguely offended

548
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Speaker 1: by this. Okay, this is there are things that appear

549
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Speaker 1: about Catholicism or the way that it's depicted, and the

550
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: way the media and the focus on certain things is offensive.

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00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: I agree with Trump on this one one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: But here he is play clut five.

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Speaker 8: We're not so happy about the of you looking like

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Speaker 8: the Pope.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see.

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Speaker 3: You mean they can't take a joke.

557
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Speaker 5: You don't mean the Catholics, he mean the fake news media,

558
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Speaker 5: not the.

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00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Catholics loved it. I had nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 5: Somebody made up a picture of me dressed.

561
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Speaker 4: Like the Pope and they put it out on the internet.

562
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Speaker 2: That's not me. That did it. I have no idea

563
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Speaker 2: where it came from.

564
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Speaker 5: Maybe it was Ai, but I know nothing about it.

565
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 5: I just saw it last evening. Actually my wife thought

566
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Speaker 5: it was cute. She said, this is that nice question

567
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: about Actually I would not be able to be married,

568
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Speaker 5: though that would be a lot. To the best of

569
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Speaker 5: my knowledge, popes aren't big one getting.

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Speaker 6: Married, not that we know of now, I mean that

571
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Speaker 6: we know of, not that we are. Well, we talked

572
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Speaker 6: about this. There actually were a lot back in the

573
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Speaker 6: back in the day, with a lot of illegitimate kids

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Speaker 6: out there.

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Speaker 2: If you, if you study it was a really good

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Speaker 2: Renaissance art that came out of those naughty popes. So

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Speaker 2: just putting it out there.

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Speaker 6: And uh, but so I thought that was funny. Again,

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Speaker 6: I think you tweeted this, and I do think it's

580
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 6: important the fact that Trump has maintained a sense of

581
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 6: humor and a lightness of being with the most important job.

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Speaker 2: In the United States. I think it's probably fair to say.

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Speaker 6: Just a few months ago he took a freaking bullet

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Speaker 6: off his ear that nearly blew his head off on

585
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Speaker 6: live television, the thing that doesn't get talked about at all.

586
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Speaker 6: And I was with him at the NCAA Wrestling Championships

587
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Speaker 6: on that arena floor in Philadelphia.

588
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: Most people who come.

589
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 6: That close to death, who would have an assassin's bullet

590
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Speaker 6: clip their ear, Most people would be pretty apprehensive walking

591
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 6: into big, crowded arenas. The guy is fearless, and I think,

592
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 6: to your point, has a lightness of bearing about him

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Speaker 6: that even though he is engaged in serious things, he

594
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: still has a sense of humor surrounding it. And so

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Speaker 6: I think he's putting it out into the ether, this

596
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Speaker 6: idea of Canada or Greenland or Panama or whatever it

597
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 6: might be. Because of the expansionist idea, but also the Pope thing.

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00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: I think he enjoys just having fun, or the running

599
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 6: for a third ternam in office, all of these things.

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Speaker 6: I think he enjoys expanding the universe and kind of

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Speaker 6: ridiculing the people who are most opposed to him. And

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Speaker 6: I thought the Pope picture, I saw it, you know,

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Speaker 6: like I guess when did it come out? Just before

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Speaker 6: the Kentucky Derby or something? And I thought it was

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Speaker 6: pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of Catholics, Okay, I'm related to

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Speaker 1: a lot of them too. I don't know a single

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Speaker 1: Catholic who thought that that was like blasphemous or some

609
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Speaker 1: big problem. All right, everyone can calm down. You know

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Speaker 1: Trump Trump like on the cross or something that would

611
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Speaker 1: upset people, Trumps the Pope.

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Speaker 2: I think that's funny. We come back. We'll take some

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Speaker 2: more of your calls.

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Speaker 6: third hour after yesterday's debate about whether I could swim

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Speaker 6: to shore from Alcatraz.

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Speaker 2: A lot of disrespect for my swimming ability.

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Speaker 6: I can neither confirm nor deny, but if you were

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Speaker 2: You can count on as some laughs too. Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: and buck Sexton.

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Speaker 6: Find them on the free iHeart Radio app or wherever

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Speaker 6: you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 6: Sexton show. A lot to dive into. In the third hour,

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Speaker 6: we'll be talking with Senator Ran Paul and come back.

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Speaker 6: We'll ask him about the latest on tariffs. He has

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Speaker 6: not supported President Trump's tariff perspectives. We will ask him

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Speaker 6: about the latest on the COVID investigation, as he is

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Speaker 6: going to be chairing part of the hearings surrounding that,

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Speaker 6: and we will find out what his overall expectations are

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Speaker 6: for the so called Big Beautiful Bill, which I believe

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Speaker 6: is on track to pass in May. And for those

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Speaker 6: of you out there that want Congress to be moving faster,

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Speaker 6: I certainly understand that. I would point out that with

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Speaker 6: a three or four vote margin in the House, getting

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Speaker 6: anything at all passed is a super challenge.

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Speaker 2: So the Big Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 6: Is on track to pass that will codify for multiple

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Speaker 6: years the tax cuts, that will codify the border related issues,

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Speaker 6: theoretically making it harder for any Democrat who comes into

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Speaker 6: office to do what Joe Biden did. All of that underway,

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Speaker 6: scheduled to pass at some point this month. UH, and

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Speaker 6: we will discuss all of that with Senator rand Paul

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Speaker 6: will also take some of your calls and we'll have

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Speaker 6: some fun in the final hour of the program Tuesday

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Speaker 6: edition eight hundred and two two two eight A two

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Speaker 6: and we look forward to hanging out with all of you.

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Speaker 6: Lots of good stuff on social media. We may dive

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Speaker 6: into some of that as well, and UH. Senator ran

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Speaker 6: Paul next, what's the latest on the bill? And Fauci

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Speaker 6: will tell you thanks for hanging with us.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition,