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Speaker 1: We told you on Friday night it was close. On Sunday,

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Speaker 1: How does Cincinnati build out the rest of the roster.

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Speaker 1: We'll tell you the latest on Trey Hendrickson and much more.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers still has not chosen his destination, leaving at

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Speaker 1: least a couple of teams and a holding pattern. So

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Speaker 1: what does the four time NFL MVP's decision boil down

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and Giants. We will break down everyone's options. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Rushover is over in Dallas and now the Cowboys need

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Speaker 1: a new backup for Dak could to find one in

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Speaker 1: the draft. Twelve hour Draft expert Land Zerline has some

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Speaker 1: thoughts and maybe a few pointed suggestions for Jerry's gang too.

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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Ian Rappaport and Judy Batista.

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Speaker 1: I am Tom peliserro We are thirty eight days away,

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Speaker 1: that's it from the NFL Draft. We are just one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one days away from.

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Speaker 2: The kickoff game. That's right.

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Speaker 1: If you take the calendar you folded in half, we

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Speaker 1: are closer to having football again than we are to

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Speaker 1: win last season started.

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Speaker 2: It's all happening.

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Speaker 1: Free agency is still ongoing, and the Bengals have their

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Speaker 1: top two weapons lined up and locked in.

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Speaker 2: For the next four years.

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Speaker 1: Late last night, we finished the deals we first told

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Speaker 1: you about on Friday. Jamar Chase and t Higgins both

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Speaker 1: agreed to terms on four year contract extensions. For Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 1: it's four years and one hundred and sixty one million dollars,

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Speaker 1: dollar deal, ending his double franchise tag Dance. Probably a

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Speaker 1: keep him with a guy in Jamar Chase who just

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Speaker 1: of various injuries. Judy, we know what the intention and

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Speaker 1: the plan and the goal was for the Bengals. Salary

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Speaker 1: cap is real. Okay, you've only got so many dollars

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Speaker 1: to go around, but Joe Burrow, among other people, made

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Speaker 4: Credit to Joe Burrow for flexing his muscle, and to

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Speaker 4: the extent that this front office and ownership group needed

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Speaker 4: and he got these guys. And let's give some credit

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Speaker 4: to the Bengals. I mean, this went against type. The

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Speaker 4: are they ever going to get this done? Can they

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Speaker 4: get this done? Is because historically they just haven't done

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Speaker 4: big contracts like this. Remember last year, last summer when

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Speaker 4: what they're doing here. Very much deserved. Jim ar Chase

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Speaker 4: That title has switched hands like three times in the

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Speaker 4: this maybe gives us the chance to finally retire. Talking

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Speaker 5: We've seen so much duty change with the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 5: and it was more of a surprise than anything else.

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Speaker 5: Paid Joe Burrow top of the market money, and now

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Speaker 5: This year, unlike last year, received permission to seek a trade,

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Speaker 4: Well, and they certainly did the deals for the receivers

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Speaker 4: the fold would be another a huge win for this franchise.

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Speaker 4: We saw last year the reason they did not get

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Speaker 4: keeping Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati would be a huge boost

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Speaker 1: looking at t Higgins deal going, Okay, if that's what

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's got coming up tomorrow. The most recently brown starter,

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Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing here. I mean, they are

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Speaker 5: It does seem judy that for each of these quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: Were the guy we brought in, what might it take?

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Speaker 5: And you know there's not a ton of backup jobs

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Speaker 5: Here's sort of the issue for the Giants, and it's

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Speaker 5: It's not like that at the quarterback position, right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna make sure there's room, You're.

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Speaker 5: Gonna do everything in kind to let him know, Hey,

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Speaker 5: whenever you make a decision, we got you, right. The

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Speaker 5: And like, could it go all the way to the draft?

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Speaker 1: It's March seventeenth, we're hosting a live primetime show on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. We should really be grateful for any type

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Speaker 1: of drama we've got, particularly about quarterbacks, particularly about future

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Speaker 2: I agree, I like it.

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Speaker 1: Aaron, take your time, although maybe also see your things

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Speaker 1: We've talked so much in recent years about whether or

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Speaker 5: It's also closer to where the top receivers are paid.

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Speaker 4: This feels like an overdue correction for the market, right.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was going to say that this is

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Speaker 4: This looks pretty good there. Davante Adams in an LA

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Speaker 4: Omar Ruiz in rap report. I know, I am Judy Batista.

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Speaker 3: Omar.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to just throw this question out there. What

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Speaker 6: I think they're expecting a lot judy, and they could

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Speaker 6: As one coach told me that Davante Adams still has

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Speaker 6: DeVante Adams reflected with the enthusiasm with which Sean McVay

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Speaker 6: detail oriented people to ever play the game, he knows

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Speaker 6: that forming the chemistry with Matthew Stafford is all about

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Speaker 6: Puka Nakula, who he said has all that God given

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Speaker 6: seem to be in play for DeVante Adams to thrive

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Speaker 3: Great stuff on.

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Speaker 5: I really perked up when you mentioned the Kentucky Derby

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Speaker 5: about the other LA team. The Chargers also made some

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Speaker 6: We look at Naji Harris six foot one, two hundred

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Speaker 6: While he's back now with Justin Herbert, all that chemistry

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Speaker 5: Man, I remember telling Jets fans last year and you

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has a new home, agreeing to terms on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and a two year contract with the Ravensworth Up

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Top Pella Sero, Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 2: Judy, there's a couple of bits of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is not a small consideration for the Dallas

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Speaker 2: So this is, uh, this is a big thing. Now.

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys have said during this offseason that they could

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to say that Cooper Rush is not interesting,

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Speaker 5: It becomes really interesting to me because you obviously have

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like, I would be surprised at this point if they

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Speaker 5: not have to play for a couple of years, but

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Speaker 5: in three years might end up being someone who's surely talented.

438
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Speaker 3: Enough to be the starting quarterback. How high do they go?

439
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Speaker 2: Right?

440
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Speaker 5: Because if you're going to wait to the fifth or

441
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Speaker 5: sixth or seventh round, you don't know what kind of

442
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Speaker 5: backup quarterback you're getting, And honestly, by then they may

443
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Speaker 5: all be gone. This at least to me, means the

444
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Speaker 5: Cowboys are considering taking one, if not Thursday, maybe on Friday.

445
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Speaker 5: And then you're talking about some household names, and then

446
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Speaker 5: you're talking about some really really talented quarterbacks, And that,

447
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Speaker 5: to me is where it all gets fascinating for the Cowboys. Yes,

448
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Speaker 5: Cooper Rush going to the Baltimore Evens is sort of

449
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 5: like someone interesting. Where the Cowboys go next to now Hi,

450
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Speaker 5: they go next to quarterback is.

451
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Speaker 3: Going to be intriguing moving forward.

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Speaker 1: The headline of that segment right there, Cooper Rush is

453
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Speaker 1: boring to Ian, But I'm guessing you're gonna be more

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Speaker 1: excited by this Mock Draft Live.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it goes back.

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Speaker 1: Our experts deliver their latest draft projections. Find out where

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Speaker 1: the next way of the NFL stars will land. Mock

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Speaker 1: Draft Live Tuesday, eight pm Eastern Time, only right here

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. If we bring in somebody else who

461
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Speaker 1: knows a thing or two about the NFL Draft, our

462
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Speaker 1: expert lanzer Line joining us on the show. Okay, Ian's

463
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Speaker 1: all fired up for anyone other than Cooper Rush. He

464
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Speaker 1: wants to hear about some of these big name quarterbacks

465
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Speaker 1: here Lands. Give me the prognosis right now Jackson Dart

466
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Speaker 1: and how we're looking at this stage here at the

467
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Speaker 1: pre draft process.

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Speaker 7: And Ian was selling me on all these quarterbacks in

469
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Speaker 7: this draft. I was a little bit just, but now

470
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Speaker 7: after hearing Ian, I'm kind of pumped. No, listen, let's

471
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Speaker 7: got they all have qualities. I like, there's no question

472
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Speaker 7: I think he makes some good points. Jackson Dart's one

473
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Speaker 7: of these guys who you're hearing his name buzzed in

474
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Speaker 7: the first round. I don't know if I'm buying it

475
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 7: or not, but one of the things you can say

476
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Speaker 7: about about Jackson Dart is the guy shows and throws

477
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Speaker 7: a great back shoulder fade. He is very good inside

478
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Speaker 7: that ole Miss offense, had a good command of the offense.

479
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Speaker 7: Is able to throw with good accuracy. Now he's got

480
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Speaker 7: to for he's got to he's got to put everything

481
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Speaker 7: behind it to make some of these throws. He doesn't

482
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Speaker 7: have a natural easy arm, but when he throws and

483
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Speaker 7: when he has to kind of crank it up, he

484
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 7: does throw some pretty good accuracy. So there are some

485
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Speaker 7: things to like about Jackson Dart. I think he's one

486
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Speaker 7: of the more consistent quarterbacks in this draft. So that's

487
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Speaker 7: going to be the selling point for a lot of

488
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Speaker 7: teams is the consistency. He's not the biggest guy, he

489
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Speaker 7: doesn't have the biggest arm, but he's a consistent guy

490
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Speaker 7: and he's pretty accurate.

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Speaker 3: And I was in.

492
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Speaker 5: Indianapolis for the combine ran into Tyler Shook and his

493
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Speaker 5: family at dinner. His mom a nice counseling job on

494
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Speaker 5: how she shouldn't pay attention to any mock drafts. So anyway,

495
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Speaker 5: on that note, tell me about Tyler Schuck and where

496
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Speaker 5: he might go. And I don't know either you are

497
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Speaker 5: not draft or just in your mind Shuck in Yeah,

498
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Speaker 5: you talked to his mom Shuck. I said, Shot didn't

499
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Speaker 5: get the name right. He said, Shuck, you're Shuk. He's

500
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Speaker 5: Shuck Lance. Neither Shuck nor Shuck. What he has Shuck

501
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Speaker 5: is Shuck is right.

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Speaker 7: Listen, He's probably the most intriguing quarterback maybe in this

503
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Speaker 7: entire draft. I mean, once you we've done cam Ward

504
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Speaker 7: a lot, We talked about Shud or Sanders a lot.

505
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Speaker 7: But when you start talking about Tyler Shuck, you were

506
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Speaker 7: talking about a player who probably works from the pocket

507
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 7: more professionally than any other quarterback. And that shouldn't surprise you.

508
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Speaker 7: Since he's been in the college football for seven years.

509
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Speaker 7: He came into the same class with Trevor Lawrence. He

510
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 7: was a backup for Justin Herbert. But he has real

511
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 7: arm talents. You see right there. He's a very confident player.

512
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Speaker 7: I was down on the field talking to Kurt Warner

513
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Speaker 7: and he was like, this guy just has an unbelievable

514
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Speaker 7: personality and and he's at ease, like there's just a

515
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Speaker 7: confidence about him that feels professional. And then when you

516
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Speaker 7: tag that with the arm talent, his accuracy, the ability

517
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Speaker 7: he has to make pro throws, you get a little

518
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Speaker 7: bit excited. Now you know major injuries twenty one, twenty two,

519
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Speaker 7: and twenty three major injuries, which is why he played

520
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 7: seven years in college football. But when it comes to

521
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Speaker 7: just purely the arm and I think the feel of

522
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Speaker 7: being a pro, he's one of those guys that really

523
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Speaker 7: is starting to stand out in this entire draft.

524
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Speaker 1: He's also got I believe at least three maybe four

525
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Speaker 1: degrees during that time. Asked about at the Senior Bowl,

526
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Speaker 1: like what matter, which of those would you actually use?

527
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Speaker 1: He said, I think for now I'm going to use

528
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Speaker 1: my degree in football. Probably a smart move. Let's let's

529
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Speaker 1: talk about another guy that Ian mentioned earlier, Lance Quinn viewers.

530
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Speaker 1: He's got him going in the second round to the Cowboys, potentially. Potentially.

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Speaker 1: What are we still looking to find out about a

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Speaker 1: guy that we've seen play a ton of college football

533
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Speaker 1: as well?

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Speaker 7: You know, listen, he was a quarterback that everyone was

535
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Speaker 7: high on entering the season, and it's hard to get

536
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Speaker 7: that out of your head except for the fact that

537
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 7: it's really gone very quiet on Quinn yours. And it's

538
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Speaker 7: understandable because he didn't have a very good year. He

539
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 7: was hurt for much of the year with the oblique injury.

540
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Speaker 7: But when you go back and you look at his

541
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Speaker 7: game against Michigan, and you go back to twenty three

542
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Speaker 7: and you look at the road wind against Alabama, you

543
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 7: see some things. I mean, you see some pro talent

544
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 7: in those games. And there's no question that he's able

545
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 7: to make off slot, off platform, bunky armslot throws. He's

546
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Speaker 7: able to get it out with just the flick of

547
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Speaker 7: a wrist. There are some things about quin yours that

548
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 7: is very, very natural. He's one of the more natural passers.

549
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 7: He's not great at reading defenses. When you watch him

550
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 7: on tape, and he's a guy who hasn't really you know,

551
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 7: developed as much as you would like. And when you

552
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Speaker 7: start adding up he was a little banged up in

553
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Speaker 7: twenty three, he was very banged up in twenty four,

554
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 7: you start worrying about durability. But I think there's some

555
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 7: upside still with Quinn Ewers, and I think he made

556
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Speaker 7: some very good points about Quinn yours is he's a

557
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Speaker 7: guy that you could stick on a roster for a

558
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 7: couple of years, especially as a second or third rounder,

559
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 7: and then see what happens with the development in the

560
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 7: quarterback room. When all of that, you know, all that

561
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 7: pressure's not on his shoulders like it was coming out

562
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Speaker 7: of high school. He was anointed as one of the

563
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Speaker 7: best high school prospects that had ever come out. And

564
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Speaker 7: that's a lot of pressure when you're initially at Ohio Stateton,

565
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Speaker 7: especially when you're at the University of Texas, and especially

566
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Speaker 7: when Arch Manning is sitting there and everyone wants to

567
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 7: see Arch Manning behind you for a couple of years.

568
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Speaker 7: So it's kind of an interesting prospect. When you add

569
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Speaker 7: it all up.

570
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Speaker 1: Lance stick around a lot more from you coming up

571
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Speaker 1: inclind On, one of the top wide receivers in this draft. First, though,

572
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Speaker 1: let's bring in our guy, Steve Whites to talk about

573
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Speaker 1: Cam Jordan.

574
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: He's back in New Orleans.

575
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: I think practically everybody is back in New Orleans. But

576
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Speaker 1: what does that mean for these Saints. I'll look in

577
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five with their new head coach Kellen Moore.

578
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Speaker 1: Steve's here and breaking all down for us. Next on

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Speaker 1: the Insiders, they look at these Saints notable offseason moves,

580
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Speaker 1: and perhaps most notable with a lot of familiar faces.

581
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Speaker 1: They also did add a couple of guys from the outside,

582
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Speaker 1: safety Justin Reid on a three year, thirty one point

583
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: five million dollar deal. They traded for Devon Godshow as well,

584
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Speaker 1: but bring back Cam Jordan. They bring back Derek Carr

585
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: on a restructured deal as well. A very veteran team

586
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: year after year, not changing even with a new coaching

587
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: staff in place. Welcome back to the Insiders. Tom Pella, Sero,

588
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Speaker 1: Judy Batista, join now by Steve White. Steve, you look

589
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: at those offseason moves. This is not a team that's

590
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: aiming to get younger right now. They still feel like

591
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: we are trying to win right now. So what does

592
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: that tell you about the direction they think they're headed

593
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty five hunder Kellen Moore.

594
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Tom, I focused home down there today and they

595
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 8: feel that they're a good team. In last season, it

596
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 8: was the injuries that dismantled everything. So they're going to

597
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 8: run it back once again. They're hoping that the coaching

598
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 8: changes can get things turned around. Now you mentioned you're

599
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 8: at Carr being back. They think he's going to be healthy. Yes,

600
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 8: maybe they could change some things we'll talk about later

601
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 8: draft wives to get him some help. But the most

602
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 8: of the changes you're seeing are coming on defense. We see, yes,

603
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 8: they resign Chase Young, They've redid cam Jordan on the

604
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 8: edge to get him back for another year. But the

605
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 8: person I spoke to who said the binding ingredient on

606
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 8: that defense could be nose tackle Devon Godshaw, a Louisiana native.

607
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 8: They made the trade with the Patriots to bring Godshaw

608
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Speaker 8: in and I was a little taken aback, like he's

609
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 8: a difference maker. They said yes, because they are going

610
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Speaker 8: to an odd front, a three man front for the

611
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Speaker 8: first time in more than fifteen years. Godshaw is going

612
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 8: to be that nose tackle where they can play you know,

613
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 8: a three, four or five too, whatever kind of look

614
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 8: they want, or Brandon Staley running things that's gonna out,

615
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 8: Brian Berzi to be aligned differently, Cam Jordan, Chase Young

616
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 8: to be aligned differently. And as you know, Brandon Staley

617
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 8: loves to rotate a lot of defensive linemen through. So

618
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 8: that's something that they're looking at. You'd call Granderson guys

619
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 8: like that on the edge. So that flexibility again with

620
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 8: Godshaw in the middle and that defensive scheme change, they

621
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 8: think that could be something that could really benefit this

622
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 8: aging roster that we see.

623
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Speaker 4: Well, when you have an aging roster and your intent

624
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: on running it back, where do you turn in the draft?

625
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Speaker 8: How about this, Judy, This is something I didn't know.

626
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 8: This is the first time since they drafted Cedric Ellis,

627
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 8: a defensive tackle in two thousand and eight, that the

628
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 8: Saints have drafted in the top ten. So the person

629
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Speaker 8: I spoke was said, because that aging roster, don't be

630
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 8: surprised if a lot of the players they draft are

631
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 8: duplicate positions, right, you know, maybe this is it for

632
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 8: Cam George, So they go out and they get a

633
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Speaker 8: defensive end. Maybe this is it for Tyron Matthew on

634
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 8: the back end, yesterday went out and signed Justin Reid,

635
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 8: but maybe they draft another safety wanted to protect against health,

636
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 8: but two to possibly replace him next year. Now you

637
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 8: look at the talent on paper, tight end, wide receiver

638
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 8: and offensive line is where they need to upgrade, which

639
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 8: is where they probably will go in the draft because

640
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 8: as we mentioned, they fortify the defense more with veteran

641
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 8: players in free agency and restructuring and resigning some of.

642
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: Their other guys.

643
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 7: Add a little youth to that offense.

644
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 8: We know Kellen Moore coming over some of the things

645
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 8: he did with the Eagles last year, what he's done

646
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 8: with the Chargers and Cowboys. Got to get the quarterbacks

647
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 8: and weapons, and that's what they're hoping to do with

648
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 8: the draft again, especially to add some talented depth because

649
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Speaker 8: as I started at things out saying, they feel the

650
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 8: injuries is what really held them back last year.

651
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Speaker 1: Say thank you very much, Slot, more from you again

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Speaker 1: soon We will talk to you then. Tedoro McMillan, regarded

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Speaker 1: by many as the top wide receiver in the twenty

654
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Speaker 1: twenty five NFL Draft, worked out for teams privately today

655
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Speaker 1: at Arizona Stadium. Wildcat's not holding a traditional pro dace,

656
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: so this was the opportunity for scouts to get one

657
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: up close look at McMillan. I was told you did

658
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: a forty yard dash, also ran through some positional drills.

659
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Speaker 1: But the taper seeing right here certainly going to speak loudly,

660
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: welcome back to the insiders. It's Tom Pilaicero, It's he

661
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: and rap Port. It's lands Zerline once again. Here Lance,

662
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Speaker 1: tell me about Dylan Sampson, the guy no caught your eye,

663
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: the Tennessee running back ran will it really well? Add

664
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Speaker 1: his pro day? What do we make of him as

665
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: an NFL draft prospect?

666
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 7: Well, I think he's terrific. I mean, I think the

667
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 7: tape on him is really really good.

668
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: He is.

669
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 7: He's a very efficient runner. He's he's one of the

670
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: most clever runners between the tackles because he makes just

671
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 7: very subtle shifts to get, you know, away from from hits.

672
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 7: He's able to slip through hits, He's able to find holes.

673
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 7: He's a quick processor.

674
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: You know.

675
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Speaker 7: The one question was how's he going to run? How

676
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 7: fast is he?

677
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: Now?

678
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 7: I had heard buzzes that he was, you know, going

679
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 7: to run well, but then he didn't run at the combine,

680
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 7: So you always have concerns is how's he gonna run,

681
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 7: because that's one of those things that can cause a

682
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 7: guy to drop, even though sometimes it's overrated, but then

683
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 7: it is pro day. He ran a four four to

684
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 7: two forty yard dash and it's like, all right, that's

685
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 7: a wrap. I can lock him up, seal them in

686
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 7: my you know, in terms of where my draft grade is.

687
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 7: And I'm expecting him to be a day too running

688
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 7: back in the draft. I think it could be third round.

689
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 7: You know, it's a deeper draft, so he may slide

690
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 7: into the third, but he does have the talent I

691
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 7: think to eventually become a very good NFL back.

692
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Speaker 3: Lance.

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Speaker 5: I know you got some other pro days circled on

694
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Speaker 5: your calendar. We'll start with this Friday. Actually, Michigan has

695
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: its PRODA. Didn't see much of anything for Will Johnson,

696
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: the top corner in Indy.

697
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Speaker 3: What are we expecting this week of him?

698
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 7: Well, unfortunately, we're not going to expect anything because he

699
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 7: had a slight hamstring tweak and so they say he's

700
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Speaker 7: going to push it all the way to I believe

701
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 7: it's April fourteenth, so we're going to get our answer

702
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 7: on Will Johnson. But the reason I wanted to talk

703
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 7: about him is because we need that answer. He has

704
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 7: tremendous ball skills, He has great instincts. He is just

705
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 7: a good football player. But the difference between being an

706
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 7: early draft pick as a cornerback and not can be

707
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Speaker 7: the speed. And if teams if you as more of

708
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 7: a zone corner, that doesn't have the same value as

709
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Speaker 7: a guy who can play multiple schemes. And to play

710
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 7: multiple schemes, you have to be able to run. So

711
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 7: right now, teams want to see him run. They want

712
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 7: to see what his top end speed is before they

713
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 7: assign a great If he runs well, he's going to

714
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 7: get pushed up the draft board from where we perceive

715
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 7: him to be. If he doesn't, I think he could

716
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 7: fall a little more than some people think. And if

717
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 7: he doesn't run at all, that could end up being

718
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 7: a real problem for him. With Colston Lovelin, who is

719
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 7: his teammate, he is going to work out in at

720
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Speaker 7: that workout that you talked about for Michigan coming up

721
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Speaker 7: this later in the week, and I think Colston Lovelin's

722
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 7: going to run well. I think he's going to work

723
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 7: out well everything he's going to do, I think is

724
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 7: going to solidify his stock is really being a top

725
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 7: ten talent in this draft. Now, he's a tight end,

726
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 7: so he's not going to go in the top ten.

727
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 7: But I do think he's a top twenty draft pick

728
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 7: in this draft, and I do expect the Pro Day

729
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 7: to really just be that check mark up. Boy, look

730
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 7: at that route right there was phenomenal. I think he's

731
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 7: just going to get the check Marke. I'm just sitting

732
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 7: here looking like, Wow, I can't to watch him again,

733
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 7: but if to catches Pro Day on the NFL network,

734
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Speaker 7: So yeah, I really do think that he's a guy

735
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 7: who is going to work out well, I'm going to

736
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 7: solidify his stock. About Mason Taylor, another tight end, I

737
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 7: know he showed up pretty well with the Senior Bowl there.

738
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 7: He's the son of Jason Taylor. You've seen a lot.

739
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 7: You always got the genetics. Here what's ahead of him

740
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 7: with LSU's Pro Day on the horizon. You know what's

741
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 7: funny is I was on the field when he was

742
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 7: on the field, and he you know, I tell you what,

743
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 7: just watching him move around, I got really excited because

744
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 7: I realized he didn't even work out like he didn't

745
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 7: run and do all the drills at the combine, and

746
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 7: I moved as great up after seeing him at the combine.

747
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 7: There's something different about Jason, about Mason Taylor, and I'm

748
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 7: getting more and more excited about him. I'm really interested

749
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 7: to see him run. I have a feeling he's going

750
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 7: to be in the four to sixes. He is a

751
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 7: player that just feels really natural when you watch him

752
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 7: on tape. There's a lot of talk about Tyler Warren

753
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 7: as there should be an in Colston Lovelin. You know,

754
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 7: I was really impressed when I watch the tape, but

755
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 7: you watch Mason Taylor, He's not far from those guys.

756
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 7: And if you're looking for a good tight end at

757
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 7: maybe a little discounted price in the second round, I

758
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 7: think Mason Taylor's going to be your guy. Be shocked

759
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 7: if he gets to the third. If he does, it's

760
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 7: a huge mistake by everyone who passes on him and

761
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 7: needs tight end, because he is going to be a

762
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Speaker 7: tight end that can, I think, be a volume target

763
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Speaker 7: guy in the NFL, someone who can make a lot

764
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Speaker 7: of catches, get a lot of yards down the field

765
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Speaker 7: and also after the catch. So I think once we

766
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Speaker 7: see him at his pro day, we're going to We're

767
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 7: going to find out that he's the guy that really

768
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 7: is locking in for me, even ahead of Elijah Arroyo

769
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Speaker 7: from Miami as the number three tight end in this draft.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I we'n to talk about a defensive player. Now.

771
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Speaker 5: Notre Dame has its pro day coming up, Xavier Watts.

772
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Speaker 5: What are we looking for from him and from Notre

773
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: Dames Pro day?

774
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 7: Ah Man, Xavier Watts, I mean, thirteen interceptions over the

775
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 7: last two years. He's been unbelievable. He's but he's only

776
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 7: got two years of production, but his production is just outstanding.

777
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Speaker 7: And I always go watch every interception that a guy

778
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 7: has a cornerback of safety. I want to watch every

779
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 7: interception because not all interceptions are created equally. There's a

780
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 7: lot of opportunistic you know, bounces here and bounces there,

781
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 7: and an overthrow here and an overthrow there, and really

782
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 7: anybody could make those. When you watch Xavier Watts, he's

783
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 7: making plays. He consistently makes plays on the football. It's

784
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 7: because he's instinctive. He's getting to jump on balls. He

785
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 7: is making plays with his ball skills. But the question

786
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: on him is Kenny run, and I remember asking an

787
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 7: NFL scout about him earlier in the process. He said,

788
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 7: we just don't know if he can run. I mean,

789
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 7: the question is is he going to be in the

790
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 7: four to sixes, because if he is, that's more of

791
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 7: a third round type of safety, even with his ball skills.

792
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 7: But if he runs well, I think he cements himself

793
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 7: sometime in the top fifty picks, top fifty five picks

794
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 7: in this draft. So running well for Xavier Watts. So

795
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 7: when I say, well, can just be a four six,

796
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 7: four five seven, that's good enough with his ball skills

797
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 7: and instincts, I think that could lock him into the

798
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 7: second round. If he doesn't run well, that could be

799
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Speaker 7: a slide into the later part of the third potentially.

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Speaker 5: Just getting started on Draft talk Lance, thank you very

801
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: much for joining us.

802
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: Great stuff has always.

803
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Speaker 5: Looked forward to a lot more Over the course of

804
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Speaker 5: the next month, the third leg of the draft process

805
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: hits Frisco, Texas. Best draft eligible players from the Big

806
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 5: Twelve Conference are ready to put the finishing touches on

807
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Speaker 5: their football resumes. It's the Big Twelve Pro Day Wednesday,

808
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: live at one pm Eastern, exclusively on NFL Network and

809
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 5: streaming on NFL Plus.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to our friend and colleague Sherry Burris. Babies here,

811
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Speaker 1: she announced earlier today, Curly and in our little love bubble,

812
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: all happy, healthy, and still very tired, Little love Bubble.

813
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was the baby's name. I have since

814
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Speaker 1: been corrected. You never know what life is going to bring,

815
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Speaker 1: particularly during the offseason.

816
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: Good time. That'd be great areas well.

817
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the insiders Don Peliicero, Ian Rappaport and

818
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: Judy Batista. You also never know well exactly what life

819
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: can bring in some of the dangers guys of life,

820
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: including the heroin journey of our friend Brian Baldinger.

821
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 9: Baldy ticket me there.

822
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 7: Forty wicked storm out here Rose Island, trying.

823
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: To get off the water.

824
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 9: Here thieves are picking up I was diving ten minutes ago,

825
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 9: pretty fresh, wicked right now, Hie, you got a.

826
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Speaker 2: Little multi place.

827
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Speaker 9: Fuck it delarious.

828
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: So I'm told this was today.

829
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Speaker 1: We're all hoping Baldy could be here for his scheduled

830
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: appearance okay tomorrow, and also that he can get in

831
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Speaker 1: somewhere to a pub and enjoy a happy Saint Patrick's

832
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: stay as wished. Right there by the Buffalo Bills and

833
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: other teams around the NFL. In honor of Saint Patrick's stay,

834
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: let's take a look at some of the luckiest plays

835
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: of all time.

836
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 8: He looks right, he throws right, little high, but ross

837
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 8: comes out even just pick up.

838
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 7: This could go for the.

839
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 10: Mills, and it will. It's run Brooks see you later

840
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 10: have the ball. But when he comes down, it never

841
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 10: touches the ground. That should be an interception. Gerard step

842
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 10: suck fires, Mike Sims, walk up, lock down.

843
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 7: They're down at eleven and that's why they're protected.

844
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Nowhere to throw it until now? Why catch now?

845
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 7: Bat it around and talk by Parker.

846
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 10: Had out of the hands of Grants, walk Alter right

847
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 10: next to him.

848
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 7: Orton pumps again to the sideline.

849
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 11: Bat it up, stoke, glee, Tell the side it gets up,

850
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 11: stoke glee. Wow, touchdowned marioda Harrioda for the line. It's

851
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 11: gonna maybe a postal line. It's a clutch back to him.

852
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 12: Put a touchdown, last chance for the Steelers. Got y'all

853
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 12: trying to get away. Man, his pass is welcome, up right.

854
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: Great on.

855
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 5: Right.

856
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: From some of the luckiest plays in NFL history to

857
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: Judy is there a favorite unlucky play for you?

858
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 7: Uh, the butt fumble.

859
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm sorry Mark Sanchez, but crashing into your teammates, but

860
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: I can't think of anything.

861
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: Less lucky than Jeesu.

862
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: It's so bad the butt fumble.

863
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 5: You know, I still felt bad for Sanchez, but it's

864
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 5: not his fault.

865
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: It really is. It's totally random, just having the whole

866
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: world was watching.

867
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 5: Can we free Mark Sanchez from this ridiculous low light anyway?

868
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: That's not mine.

869
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 5: Mine is all the way back to the two thousand

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Speaker 5: and six wild Card game Cowboys Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: No, this is so unlucky.

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Speaker 5: Tony Romo is such a good athlete, and it looks

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Speaker 5: like such a bad athlete here. Now his life has

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Speaker 5: turned out. Okay, we still hear him on Sundays, just

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Speaker 5: you know, not good.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the nineteen twenty nine

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Speaker 1: Dayton Triangles. No, actually, I just want to show you

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Speaker 1: didn't get hit with the football.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna lend some historical perspective, but I just

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Speaker 2: want to see that are showing over and over and

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Speaker 2: over again.

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Speaker 1: I actually would say we are all lucky that that

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Speaker 1: clip exists.

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Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow everybody,