WEBVTT - #721 Packers Unscripted: Preseason promise

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am like Spafford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague West and had Kowitz. We're coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you once again from disparate locations at lambeau Field

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<v Speaker 1>because Wes, apparently Cincinnati sirens and raindrops were not enough

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<v Speaker 1>to convince the powers that be that we really need

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<v Speaker 1>to be back in the studio together to shoot this

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<v Speaker 1>show the old fashioned way. So we're still going with

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<v Speaker 1>this way for a little while longer.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, of course, but I actually thought this was

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this was your doing. I thought you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like the joke I made about you running from the law,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're like, okay, I tried it being next to

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<v Speaker 2>them again, I want no part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, Well, we've all jokes aside. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ground to cover on this show, West, because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot has happened since we did speak last From

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<v Speaker 1>the Queen City as they call it, and the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>played their preseason opener on Friday night in Cincinnati, and

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<v Speaker 1>the starter's got a little bit of action. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Jordan Love miss a third down pass on the

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<v Speaker 1>opening series then directed a touchdown drive, finishing it with

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<v Speaker 1>a scoring pass to Romeo Dobbs on the second series.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any thoughts on that, I will take them.

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<v Speaker 1>But also there's a lot to talk about in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the rookies that shined in this preseason game, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking Sean Clifford, Emmanuel Wilson, Carrington Valentine. I'll turn

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<v Speaker 1>it over to you, wide open for it. You can

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<v Speaker 1>start wherever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>I like how you said that too, Like if you

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<v Speaker 3>have any thoughts, I'll take them, Like it's the village

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<v Speaker 3>of Swamaco like town, like the meeting here, if you

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<v Speaker 3>have any issues with your sewer and waterbell.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, the thing I liked about it, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people in inbox have said it this week, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>It was probably it felt more like.

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<v Speaker 2>A regular season game than a preseason game, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a long time since it's felt like that the

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<v Speaker 2>exhibition season now. I think a big part of that

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<v Speaker 2>is the fact you actually did see some of the

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<v Speaker 2>starters in the first two series, specifically on offense, Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love getting to go down the field leads that touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>producing drive. I thought Romeo Dobbs looked really sharp. You

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<v Speaker 2>saw the beauty of Dobbs and Christian Watson together, the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of attention that Watson draws on his man beater,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have Romeo Dobbs coming free, and Love

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<v Speaker 2>just puts a nice, beautiful touch pass on Dobbs for

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<v Speaker 2>the touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was such a good start.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like a good continuation of some of those

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<v Speaker 2>two minute drives that we've seen with the Packers offense,

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<v Speaker 2>and all in all, I think it was really positive.

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<v Speaker 2>But what really surprised me the most about this game,

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, is the fact that you saw so many

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<v Speaker 2>young guys on both sides of the ball, and even

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<v Speaker 2>on special teams with Samory two Ray's big return guys

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<v Speaker 2>just stepping up and making the most of their moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You obviously had to edit inbox when I wrote this,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Packers scored thirty six points in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>That was more than any other team in the first week.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also drew that twenty thirteen preseason where the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers scored thirty seven points total in four games. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not always again it's preseason, it's it's everybody you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Vanilla defenses and all that but it's not like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>just puts up a ton of points and a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of productions. It can be really hard for offenses to

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<v Speaker 2>move the ball when their first team starters are not

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<v Speaker 2>in there. But Sean Clifford battled. You saw Emmanuel Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>in an inspirational, emotional night for him, having one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eleven yards two touchdowns on just six carries. A

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<v Speaker 2>number of guys stepped up in this game, and to

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<v Speaker 2>me that was the most encouraging thing of all is

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<v Speaker 2>that these the young players that the Green Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have invested into, I thought they got off to a

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<v Speaker 2>really strong start.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought so too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and we're seeing potentially some you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>we see in any training camp, we see some shifting

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned Emmanuel Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the fourteenth anniversary of his father's death at

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<v Speaker 1>a young age, emotional night for him and his family.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he rips off the one touchdown run

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone, looked really good, hit the hole

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<v Speaker 1>sharp well. Then later on he takes one eighty yards

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<v Speaker 1>to the house, gets a couple of nice blocks, and

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<v Speaker 1>off he goes, showing off a little bit of speed

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<v Speaker 1>that we hadn't necessarily seen on the practice field at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. And you know, while be honest, Wes, I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a story a couple of weeks ago about the

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<v Speaker 1>battle for the number three running back position. I really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think Emmanuel Wilson was necessarily up there with those

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<v Speaker 1>other guys. And I'm talking about Patrick Taylor and Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Goodson and then the draft pick Lou Nichols. But Nichols

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<v Speaker 1>has been injured, Tyler Goodson injured his shoulder in the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati game, and then Emmanuel Wilson goes off and has

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<v Speaker 1>this tremendous performance. Now he still has a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>learn in terms of the pass protection and those things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's always the toughest thing for a rookie running back

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<v Speaker 1>to learn and to get up to speed. But he

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<v Speaker 1>threw himself right into the middle of that competition for

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<v Speaker 1>the running back when it kind of felt like he

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe on the outside looking in before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mike, and that is where you always see these

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<v Speaker 2>young guys that you have to make a big impression,

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have that breakthrough moment before you could

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<v Speaker 2>start building on everything else. Because goodness knows, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Wilson could be completely refined as a pass protector.

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<v Speaker 2>He could make some nice plays with catching the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you don't run and you don't have those

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<v Speaker 2>big moments, it's gonna be hard to get noticed.

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<v Speaker 4>This young man got himself noticed and such.

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<v Speaker 2>An interesting story he has obviously, as you mentioned, losing

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<v Speaker 2>his father fourteen years ago. But he goes to a

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<v Speaker 2>Division two school, Division two school at Fort Valley State,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is one of these situations where he goes

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<v Speaker 2>out for the draft, doesn't get picked. Was incredibly productive

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<v Speaker 2>in college, but it's hard to get noticed. Sometimes he

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<v Speaker 2>has a cup of coffee with Denver, then he ends

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<v Speaker 2>up in Green Bay. Is sort of that, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>need an extra back in this equation, right, Well, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple injuries happen, and you see how quickly that injury

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<v Speaker 2>can lead to opportunity. I don't have all the statistics

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me. It's very hard to find preseason

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<v Speaker 2>stats pre two thousand, at least over the last twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three years. That is the longest rushing touchdown, longest run

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<v Speaker 2>at all the Packers have had in a preseason game

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty three years. The next closest was Whisper Goodman

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<v Speaker 2>and it was not even sixty it was fifty six yards.

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<v Speaker 2>It just shows you how incredible it was both the

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<v Speaker 2>block that Rashid Walker threw on that play in the

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<v Speaker 2>ability of Emmanuel Wilson to really go and capture that

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<v Speaker 2>moment afterwards and take it to the house. As he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he was even saying the coaches, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>let me live that down. If I let the defensive

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<v Speaker 2>back catch me there. I had to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>end zone. He did it on that play. He's going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to build on it. But the kid has

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<v Speaker 2>the right mentality. The first thing that he said right

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<v Speaker 2>after the game was I got to come back on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday and I gotta do these type of things again.

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<v Speaker 2>And every moment that he's had so far, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the young man has taking advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, the other big rookie standout on offensives was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the fifth round draft pick at quarterback, Sean Clifford.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you, Wes, I couldn't have been I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have been more excited, interested, intrigued by just watching

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<v Speaker 1>how this young man played because I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. I know you've been doing this a

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<v Speaker 1>long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Too.

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<v Speaker 1>We have seen countless times rookie quarterbacks getting into their

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<v Speaker 1>first preseason action and the immediately morph into checkdown. Charlie, right,

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<v Speaker 1>every single every pass play is okay, nothing's there, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's either take off and run or find

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<v Speaker 1>the outlet. You know, find the checkdown, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just try not to have a negative play. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how Sean Clifford went about this. Now, he did throw

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<v Speaker 1>two interceptions. One of them was a pick six that

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<v Speaker 1>was very avoidable. The other one was he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>actually threw a fifty to fifty ball over the middle

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<v Speaker 1>that he was hoping Tucker Craft would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>fight for and maybe pull in for a reception. The

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<v Speaker 1>defender was able to get it away. Those are mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>that he'll certainly learn from. But he did not hold

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<v Speaker 1>back whatsoever. I absolutely loved watching this young man. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>let it rip out there. He played with no fear.

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<v Speaker 1>He practically played with no conscience, almost.

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<v Speaker 5>With the But that's what you love to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how is how is the young quarterback going

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<v Speaker 1>to learn if he doesn't just let the offense work

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<v Speaker 1>for him, try to find the windows that are there,

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<v Speaker 1>try to fit the ball in the windows and see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. And you know, whether you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>slant pass to uh Dontavian Wicks that was late late

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half that got him down there with

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to score in the two minute drove before halftime,

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<v Speaker 1>or when he scrambled out to the left and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just dump the ball off but threw a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five yard pass downfield right on a dime to Samari

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<v Speaker 1>Toure over by the boundary to create a big gain

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<v Speaker 1>out of an extended play. You have to like what

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<v Speaker 1>you saw from Sean Clifford in this game, and he

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<v Speaker 1>gave himself off of just one preseason game. He gave

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<v Speaker 1>himself so much to build on as he now gets

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<v Speaker 1>more action in these next two preseason games, getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to be Jordan Loves backup for the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean has not been perfect and he was even saying afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I've made a mistake before. I've made several

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes before. I'm not afraid to make another mistake. But

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<v Speaker 2>I love that mentality, man, because you know, I understand

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<v Speaker 2>there were some people that were questioning, okay, when the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers trade, you know, draft him in the fifth round.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, is this guy fifth round pick? Is he

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<v Speaker 4>a priority free agent?

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<v Speaker 2>All these questions, But it's taken us, what Mike, less

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<v Speaker 2>than four months to understand why Penn State loved this

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<v Speaker 2>kid so much. Why James Franklin and the coaches there

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<v Speaker 2>like this kid because he competes, and he's not afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of the moment, and he's willing to do whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>takes to win a football game. When you were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the resiliency piece, right, the guy led four scoring drives,

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<v Speaker 2>he led them down, was passing the ball really well,

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<v Speaker 2>starts very fast, then he does get was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a sack. He ends up throwing the pick six,

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<v Speaker 2>and he comes back and has another interception. He could

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<v Speaker 2>have let all those moments bury him. Instead, he leads

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<v Speaker 2>a two minute drive after I believe that was Carrington's interception.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct. I don't have the game, but yeah, Valentine.

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine got the interception off the deflected pass, and then

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<v Speaker 1>and right that gave Clifford one more shot before halftime

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<v Speaker 1>to erase what had happened earlier, and he went out

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<v Speaker 1>and took advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 2>In the one thing I think has been the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>strength of Sean Clifford in the practices I've watched, going

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<v Speaker 2>back to the offseason program, the guy has been exceptional

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<v Speaker 2>in the two minute now. He doesn't win every single

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<v Speaker 2>time he's going up against the defense, but he moves

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<v Speaker 2>a football man, and I felt like that was another

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<v Speaker 2>exemplary example of that, being able to actually lead them

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<v Speaker 2>down the stretch. And then he plays at a third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>which kind of surprised me a little bit. But twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six passes, twenty completions, I believe it was two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eight yards, two hundred and four yards. And then

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<v Speaker 2>having that, Mike, you and I, as you said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just agreement with Packers. All these preseason games we've

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<v Speaker 2>covered over the years. Doesn't even matter if you're a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's QB two three, four, could be a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years in the league. Guys don't want to make

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes in the preseason. They want to be they want

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<v Speaker 2>to be perfect, right, and that leads to just playing

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<v Speaker 2>very generic bland football. Sean Clifford was not doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>And why does that matter, Mike, because he was giving

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<v Speaker 2>his receivers a chance to make plays. He was given

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<v Speaker 2>Dontavian Wicks to show, hey, if the quarterback threads the

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<v Speaker 2>needle to me and I got the safety bearing down

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<v Speaker 2>on me, and I have a guy that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>on me on the slant, I'm still going to catch

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<v Speaker 2>that ball and I'm going to turn up field and

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<v Speaker 2>take it for forty two yards or forty seven yards

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was. Jaden Reid. How much did the Green

0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers learn about Jayden Reid in this game? From

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<v Speaker 2>being able to take some snaps with both Jordan Love

0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.240
<v Speaker 2>and Sean Clifford. These young receivers, and there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>multitude of them. Mike Malik Heath had his head a reception.

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<v Speaker 2>I think on his first play that he played in

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<v Speaker 2>that game. You need a quarterback to give his receivers

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<v Speaker 2>that opportunity. Shan Clifford did that. I felt like when

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Bay Packers left Cincinnati, when you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>teaching tape, when you talk about the film room, this

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<v Speaker 2>young man gave the Green Bay Packers coaches a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to work off of as they prepare now for these

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<v Speaker 2>joint practices with the New England Patriots.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Well, a couple other guys who carried over what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen as some very productive play on the press

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<v Speaker 1>practice field, and they took it into the preseason game.

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<v Speaker 1>We already mentioned Carrington Valentine, We've already talked about him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot rookie, seventh round pick out of Kentucky, showing

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<v Speaker 1>that he belongs. He's already been you know. He he

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<v Speaker 1>basically is playing as a starting cornerback when Jay R

0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Alexander is not in the lineup and he gets an

0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.319
<v Speaker 1>interception in the Bengals game, he breaks up a couple

0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:26.240
<v Speaker 1>other passes. He had a very acrobatic type of tackle

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<v Speaker 1>on an outside running play. Just showed that that he's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a nose for the ball, and much like Clifford,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just a competitor down in and down out. And

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<v Speaker 1>another guy too, and you already brought him up. Malie Heath,

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<v Speaker 1>he undrafted player out of Old Miss, wide receiver. Got

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<v Speaker 1>He's got nice, nice size to him and everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's out here trying to prove like, hey, I should

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<v Speaker 1>have been drafted just like you know. How However, many

0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:57.160
<v Speaker 1>dozens of receivers were taken in that April draft. He

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<v Speaker 1>makes I believe it was either two had either.

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<v Speaker 4>Two or three.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was three receptions thirty six yards maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. One of those was really nice where

0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he essentially ran a comeback route and he came strong

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<v Speaker 1>back to the ball to h to provide the target

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<v Speaker 1>and get separation from the defender. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>we also saw him in the blocking part of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take take a Cincinnati cornerback and as as one

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<v Speaker 1>inbox reader said, pulled to Michael Orr and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Shove took him to the bus like you know, outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the field. He took him into the kicking net

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<v Speaker 1>over there on on the Packers' sideline. But and hey,

0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Matt Lafleur has brought it up that that, yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be another receiver who takes on that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of goon roll and does all that dirty work that

0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Alan Lazard used to do in the receiving corps. And

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<v Speaker 1>Malik Heath is like, hey, if that, if that can

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<v Speaker 1>be me, I'm all for it, sign me up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's actually funny too, because he when I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking with him in locker room, he mentioned, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of his game at Old Miss too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he did that type of stuff in college.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like he was just a moment where he's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I got to step up and I

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<v Speaker 2>got to block this guy and show really good for

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<v Speaker 2>the coaches. No that he feels like that's a natural,

0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.440
<v Speaker 2>organic part of his game and he wants to show that.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously Sean Clifford, other than the I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the linebacker that was coming near him at the end

0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.360
<v Speaker 2>of the play, nobody was near him.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it wasn't that leak. He just blocked his guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He cleared out the only potential guy that could have

0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.240
<v Speaker 2>converged on him within maybe two or three yards of

0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the line of scrimmage. And again, as you said, as

0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.440
<v Speaker 2>he said, he was able to take him over to

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<v Speaker 2>the cooler, you know, on that play.

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<v Speaker 5>And Andy drew an unnecessary roughness penalty because the guy

0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.080
<v Speaker 5>got so mad about Kim blocked, you know, so far

0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.840
<v Speaker 5>out of bounds that he you know, he struck back

0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.920
<v Speaker 5>at heath and then the referee through the flag and

0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.600
<v Speaker 5>the Packers got some extra yardage out of it to boot.

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<v Speaker 2>And somebody said an inbox like, oh, they gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>careful with that that you know, that could be an offset.

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<v Speaker 4>No, man, that's an extension.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't about a guy going out of bounds and

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<v Speaker 2>then coming back inbounds on a punk coverage to tackle

0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the guy. If you wipe your guy out to the sideline,

0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.680
<v Speaker 2>that's an extension of the play. You don't stop blocking

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<v Speaker 2>him because you blocked him out of bounds. It's just

0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.000
<v Speaker 2>it's that's where you put the guy. So it just

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<v Speaker 2>so happens that the play lasted long enough that he

0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.520
<v Speaker 2>kept bringing him and bringing them and bringing them. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, Malie Heath doesn't have Allen Lazard size,

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<v Speaker 2>But when I look at the overall things that made

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<v Speaker 2>Lazard successful as an undrafted free Asian, as a guy

0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.440
<v Speaker 2>that actually was going to succeed in the NFL, he

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of those qualifiers to him. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I like about this entire room. Samori to Ray

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<v Speaker 2>I thought had a really good, strong game. Again, he

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<v Speaker 2>muffed a punt or a muff to kickoff early on,

0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.000
<v Speaker 2>but then came back and had that big kickoff return

0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.320
<v Speaker 2>for the offense to get them at midfield. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about it is, I feel like all these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about Carrington Valentine too, they are making

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<v Speaker 2>other people they've they're rising the game of those around them.

0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I thought Shamar John Charles has had some really strong practices.

0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Corey Ballantine was contributing, you know, before his stinger injury.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the key in the preseason is when you have

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<v Speaker 2>young guys or maybe an undrafted for agent that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of balls out a little bit, that makes everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>in the room kind of take notice a little bit

0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that hey, I got to raise my level to these

0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.840
<v Speaker 2>guys as well. When it comes down to it, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>I said this about the Packers' defensive line too. I mean,

0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.600
<v Speaker 2>injuries can happen. We're still two weeks away from when

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers have to start even thinking about their fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three man roster.

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<v Speaker 4>But the agreement Packers have a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of tough decisions looming because I think the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>people that have stepped up throughout the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>offseason program and many of whom have now carried it

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<v Speaker 2>into training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and tough decisions is what they want. If the

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<v Speaker 1>roster cut down to fifty three is easy, then you

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.080
<v Speaker 1>probably don't have as deep and talented team as you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to have. One last note on the game,

0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the Packers don't make it a practice, not a regular

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<v Speaker 1>practice of giving out game balls during preseason games, but

0:16:53.640 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Matt Lafleur took the time to recognize especially Kenneth odam Meguu,

0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the Nigerian player of Nigerian descent. He's the Packers International

0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Pathway Program player who literally on Friday night in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>when he stepped on the field, was playing a football

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<v Speaker 1>game for the first time. All he had done was

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<v Speaker 1>practice and learn and sit in a classroom and do drills.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he had not played actually in an

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.440
<v Speaker 1>actual game, a competitive game of football until that preseason

0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.760
<v Speaker 1>opener on Friday night. The Packers honored otomegu with a

0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.159
<v Speaker 1>game ball, and it sounded like it was a It

0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.720
<v Speaker 1>was a pretty raucous celebration in the locker room for

0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the young man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And if you heard what Batt Lafleur said at

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<v Speaker 2>his press conference on Monday, just saying, I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>top tier when it comes to a person and an

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<v Speaker 2>individual and somebody that is appreciative of the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we talked a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I even wrote this past week about the team bonding

0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.520
<v Speaker 2>that came out of Cincinnati. But I think there's a

0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 2>certain team bonding element too that comes out of having

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.199
<v Speaker 2>a Kenneth otamegu on your fifty three or not your

0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.080
<v Speaker 2>fifty three, but your ninety man offseason roster, because I

0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:06.920
<v Speaker 2>think it is a good It goes back to I

0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.560
<v Speaker 2>think something that Jason Rebovich even said about how having

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 2>someone like him actually makes some better coach because it

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.280
<v Speaker 2>reminds him about the things you can't take for granted

0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 2>when you're working with athletes and when you're working with

0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.280
<v Speaker 2>people at these positions, because he brings you back to

0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.679
<v Speaker 2>the basics, right And Kenneth I think has had the

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:28.080
<v Speaker 2>right mentality since day one, just an incredible joy for

0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.240
<v Speaker 2>life and understanding the journey that he's on. And I

0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know everything that was like for him, you know,

0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.959
<v Speaker 2>back in Nigeria. I remember talking with Andy Malumba when

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.359
<v Speaker 2>he was here. Andy moved to Canada, you know, and

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I think he was five or six. He was pretty

0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:46.359
<v Speaker 2>young at that point. But you know, people's lived experiences

0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.639
<v Speaker 2>are what make this game great. And when you have

0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:53.640
<v Speaker 2>somebody like Kenneth who has been in a different country,

0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, even the basketball background, just being introduced to

0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.560
<v Speaker 2>different sports and then watching these things on YouTube and

0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.960
<v Speaker 2>almost kind of getting his first introduction to American football

0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:09.240
<v Speaker 2>through videos. I mean, it reminds you of just how

0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.480
<v Speaker 2>incredible it is that he's even in a position like

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<v Speaker 2>this now. To be in a preseason game, he had

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 2>to cross Mike. We talked about it in May. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he had to get through the training camps

0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.960
<v Speaker 2>out there. I mean when you talk about OCU Manua's

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.640
<v Speaker 2>you know camp in London, and all these different levels

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.120
<v Speaker 2>that Kenneth had to get to just to get to Florida,

0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.640
<v Speaker 2>just to be in a position that one NFL team

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.280
<v Speaker 2>would he'd get a sign to go play with him.

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.159
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that you just get to Florida and then

0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.679
<v Speaker 2>you're guaranteed to be with an NFL club. That was

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.639
<v Speaker 2>just getting your foot in the door to potentially getting

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<v Speaker 2>this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked to him back in May.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a smile on his face the entire time

0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 2>you talked to him in the locker room this week,

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<v Speaker 2>again just incredibly appreciate the opportunity in front of him,

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.399
<v Speaker 2>and I have to imagine for him personally what a

0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.399
<v Speaker 2>gratifying moment that was. And lastly, I will leave you

0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.200
<v Speaker 2>with this the interview that Larry McCarey did. Larry Mccaerron

0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.160
<v Speaker 2>did with him that ran in the pregame preseason show

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.560
<v Speaker 2>him saying that, you know, my goal is, I don't

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 2>want to be the ipp player. I don't want to

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.000
<v Speaker 2>be a guy that's just I'm here because I'm an exemption.

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like, by the end of this season, I want

0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 2>people to look at me like I'm helping this football

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<v Speaker 2>team win.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think when you look at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, a player, the first time Packers have ever been

0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:19.520
<v Speaker 2>a part of this during my time on the beat,

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.320
<v Speaker 2>just that the perfect guy I felt like for this

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<v Speaker 2>locker room and for this football team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I loved what he said when I had a

0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.200
<v Speaker 1>chance to talk to him in the locker room on Sunday,

0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.879
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was after practice and along those same lines,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, what his goals are, and he says,

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>my goal is after this season for then people to

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<v Speaker 1>look at me on the football field and ask what

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>college did you go to? You know, to basically sort

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.639
<v Speaker 1>of show that he belongs. That nobody's going to be

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.919
<v Speaker 1>able to tell that he got here in any different

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 1>way than anybody else in America who goes and plays

0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 1>college football and then tries to make his way into

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I absolutely love that line. I want people

0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to ask me what college I went to? You know that?

0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.560
<v Speaker 1>And and he says everything as you noted Wes with

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:06.879
<v Speaker 1>with a smile on his face.

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.359
<v Speaker 2>So watch the kid walk past the kid like we

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 2>have in the locker room. I mean, if you see

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>him out there for any of these preseason games at

0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:17.120
<v Speaker 2>lambeau Field, he looks like an NFL outside linebacker.

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:17.679
<v Speaker 4>He does.

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<v Speaker 2>He just needs to catch up on the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>it now, which is what he's trying to do with

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Jason Rebervich in the rest of that room. Lastly, very

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.760
<v Speaker 2>quick thing. You're not on Instagram. That's a pity too.

0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I think you'd be really good on that type of

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<v Speaker 2>social media. But we posted Packers. They posted that video

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 2>of Kenneth in his interview with Larry and all the

0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 2>players that like that video, Pressed Smith, Kenny Clark, Rashaan Gary,

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 2>all those teammates. I mean, they're in this journey with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's the coolest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's it's really cool the way these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>the way these guys have rallied around a newcomer, not

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<v Speaker 1>just to their team, but a newcomer to the sport

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<v Speaker 1>in their locker room has been has been pretty cool

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<v Speaker 1>to see. I want to get to some other things

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and if if you want to, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear something rather humorous, go check out the clip

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<v Speaker 1>of Kevin Harlan on the Packers preseason television broadcast reading

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the reading the Cousin subs ad Read. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>around Kevin long enough that that man has an appetite.

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<v Speaker 1>So when he says when he's in the middle and

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the middle of the ad read and says

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<v Speaker 1>to John Coon boy, I'm hungry like it absolutely did

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<v Speaker 1>not supprise, So.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to have you and Kevin have like an

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<v Speaker 2>ad read off when it comes to these.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe that's what we Maybe that's what we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Well. Since we returned from Cincinnati, West a

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 1>few things that have gone on here that I want

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to touch on. One you are you brought up. One

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of the big blocks on Emmanuel Wilson's eighty yard touchdown

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>run in Cincinnati was thrown by Rashid Walker, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the practices since returning, Rashid Walker has begun to I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I would say share the left tackle spot with

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the number one offense when David Baktiari is not taking snaps.

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Rashid Walker has moved up to where he's sharing that

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>number one left tackle spot with yosh Nimen and the

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Packers are taking a much longer, harder, closer look at

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>last year's seventh round pick from Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I say a single word, if you're watching this video,

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.919
<v Speaker 2>if you're listening to it on you know one of

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 2>your mini podcast options, stop what we're doing right now,

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 2>timestamp this. Go and watch Larry Mccaerron's rock report on

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.439
<v Speaker 2>Walker because the game that he had Mike basically every

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 2>single major play that Green Bay had in the second half,

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 2>at least or after the second quarter, it all basically

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>tied back to blocks that Rashid Walker was making, either

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 2>on the left side the line or the right side

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 2>of the line. The thing I love about this kid

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>is the fact that, dude, if you remember this, go

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<v Speaker 2>back and look at some of those like two thousand

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 2>and twenty one, like right after the draft, like people

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 2>projecting what the twenty two draft is going to look like,

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>there were people that were saying Rashid Walker was going

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to be a first round pick. Now, that was very premature.

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>It was before any games were played the falling college season.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the kind of high regard that he was

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>held into. As you talked about with him, some injuries happened.

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't really even be able to be a full

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<v Speaker 2>go until the last season started and he virtually had

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>to red shirt that whole entire year. And when the

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Packers have fourteen fifteen twenty seven different offensive li i'eman

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 2>returning this year, he kind of gets lost in the

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>laundry a little bit that, Hey, you have this guy

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 2>that was a multi year starter at Penn State for

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Sean Clifford, mind you. Yeah, and he's on your roster

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and he's competing for a spot again this year, and

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 2>it kind of gets forgotten about. You have Caleb Jones,

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 2>massive human being, another big ten guy, you had Yosh

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Niman coming back, you have I mean, Kadeem Telford is

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.360
<v Speaker 2>six foot seven too. I mean, these monsters at this position.

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 2>And then here comes quietly Rashid Walker back into the conversation.

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Doing it on both sides of the offensive line. Again

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>wasn't perfect. There were teachable moments, but I thought he

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 2>got back to showing what he can do, and that

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 2>is athletic feet in a really strong punch and being

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>able to knock off edge rushers and get them off balance.

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>That actually plays in pretty well into being a pass

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 2>protector in this league. And I felt like for him,

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 2>what an incredible performance to build on, and especially after

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 2>not playing really all of last season. Yeah.

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, he as you said, he kind of took a

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>took a red shirt year because all through the pre

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>draft process he was rehabbing from a surgery from the

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>end of his college season. He didn't, you know, didn't

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>really get to get up to speed during the spring

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>to get ready for his rookie training camp. So then

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>his rookie training camp last year was always kind of behind.

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, and he's he's been coached pretty

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>hard by Luke, but gis the Packers offensive line coach

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>and uh and he was even asked about that in

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the locker room, you know all the times that that,

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, but Gus has kind of uh you know,

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>yelled at him and let him have it. He says, Hey,

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm used to getting coached hard. That's okay, It's all love.

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>These guys just want me to get These guys want

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me to get better. They see what they see what

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>potential I have and they're trying to get it out

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of me. And and I think we're starting to uh,

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:44.959
<v Speaker 1>we're starting to see that with Rashid Walker.

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<v Speaker 5>Practice. On Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I guess the the the Great Visit of the

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Dignitaries because NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell had stopped in in

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. There was a kind of a media event

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>discussing the Packers or should say city of Green Bay,

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>being selected to host the twenty twenty five NFL draft.

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers was here, and you got a

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>chance to check that out. Wesson and Roger Goodell even

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>came and watched practice a little bit and reunited with

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy that he shook hands with five years ago

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>on the stage of the first round of the NFL Draft,

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 1>in jay R Alexander. Those two were chatting it up

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>before practice started on Monday inside the Hudson Center.

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very cool moment, and Evan Siegel got a great photo.

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>We saw the backside of the whole conversation. Evan got

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>a great photo of them together from the front angle.

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 4>And one of those things.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it happens on a daily basis around the NFL,

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't really seen a lot of that where

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, you see that original you know,

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>DAP and everything that they.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 4>Do on Draft night and everyone's really excited.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>But here we are five years later when JayR Alexander's

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>become a legitimate superstar in this league and being able

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 2>to come back. Also, by the way, I don't know

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>who the Packers NFLPA rep is this year. It was

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Mason Crosby, but JayR has been an associate rep, so

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>he also has some you know, things to do with

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the PA side of things. So just an incredible kind

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 2>of thing to see a guy that went from just

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a super excited young kid out of Louisville and then

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>now here he has a two time All Pro that's

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>a team leader and former team captain for the Packers

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>and he's being able to see Roger Godell again. Unfortunately

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get to have my like reuniting with Roger

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Godell at all, seeing if he remembered in twenty twelve

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 2>when he came to practice the last time in training

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>camp and I badgered him about replacement referees and if

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 2>that was a concern at all.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 4>One month later, I guess it was.

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you need to bring him, Maybe you need to

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>bring him a cousin sub the next time he comes

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to Green Bay brings some lunch for him.

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But a cool deal though before that, because even before

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 2>practice I went down for his that ceremony. Wisconsin Governor

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Tony Evers also there, Toy Troy Streckenbach, the Brown County Representative,

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>and Mark Murphy. All We're supposed to be part of

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>an outdoor event, you know, tied around the Packers and

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>the bike riding thing. Because of the rain, practice got

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>moved indoors. We weren't able to do that, but still

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>hearing Gadell talk about the excitement about the Packers getting

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the NFL Draft, green Bay getting the NFL Draft in

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, in all the work that Mark Murphy

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 2>put into that, from the very day that the NFL

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>announced that they were going to start moving the draft round,

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Mark was one of the first people to contact and

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>reach out to Sir Roger and say, hey, Green Bay

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>wants this, We're ready for it. We're never going to

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>get a Super Bowl here, we get that, but I

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>mean this is the type of event that we can host.

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Eight years later, everything comes full circle and Goodell very

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 2>complimentary of the job that, as he said, Murph. We

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>call him Mark. He called him Murph. I occasionally call

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 2>him sir. He doesn't like that, but I still do it.

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>But very casual with Roger Goodell calling him Murph and

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>just saying that nobody has been a bigger supporter of

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>this community than Mark Murphy. And again, when you're looking

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 2>three years down the road, as Mark starts to enter

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 2>this final stretch of his time as the Packers President CEO,

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>an incredible, lasting achievement in addition to the many other things.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 4>That Mark has done here over the last fifteen years.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no question about it. Well, I said we

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of ground to cover. There's a couple

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>other things I want to touch on here before we go.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I know we're going maybe a little bit long today.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 4>That's mostly my fault. No, that's noting a lot.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not your fault. But a couple other players

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to mention here. One rookie, seventh round pick at wide receiver,

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Grant Dubo's he has gotten back into practice. He missed

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>all of the OTAs in mini camp and the first

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>stretch of training camp due to a back injury.

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 5>He is back on the.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Practice field and as we talk about what's going on

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>at the wide receiver position, we're seeing things from you know,

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Malie Heath and Samari Toure and Dontavian Wicks and all

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>these young guys that are fighting for a roster spot.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Grant Dubos went out at practice on Monday, Wes and

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>he hauled in I believe it was or maybe five

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>receptions in eleven on eleven Suddenly number eighty six is

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>shown up. And with this week coming up with the

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>joint practices with the Patriots, and then and then the

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>preseason game. The fact that he's cleared now to play

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to take reps in eleven on eleven. He's another young

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>guy to watch here in a competition for those last

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>few roster spots that is far from decided.

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>And I would think he's actually gonna play in this

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Patriots game because he was working his way back. Didn't

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>play against Cincinnati. But my goodness, Mike, with him getting

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 2>into reintroduced, actually introduced, he never was introduced in the

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:36.479
<v Speaker 2>first place. With him being introduced now to these team periods, granted,

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Boas has just completely I think, just jumped right out

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and started making plays right from the get go. He's

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>he's a guy that when you look at his career

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>at Charlotte, those two seasons that he was there, he

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>was just a magnet to the football. And I don't

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>know if it's just his ability to gain separation. I

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>really don't know a lot about his game at this point,

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>but he's constantly around the football. Again, it goes back

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 2>to what I was saying earlier in the show, where

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>we focus so much on the top three.

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 4>If you want to throw his Samori in their top four.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Receivers, but the Packers have had years where guys come in,

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll draft guys and they just don't really make

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>plays and it doesn't really work out for him and

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you got to move on. But I think for the

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Packers double dipping again and going and getting three receivers

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>again for the second straight year, in addition to having

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Malie Heath come in, in addition to bringing back Bo

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Melton who's made some plays and had some nice blocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Packers competition has just been revving up over

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and over again. And when you're talking about a guy

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>like Sean Clifford and Alex Magoo, who I'll imagine will

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 2>get more snaps, if not against the Patriots, definitely against

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the Seahawks. Those guys are going out there to throw

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the football and they have some really talented receivers to

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>work with, and Dubo's is added to that. Now I'm

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 2>very interested to watch and see where he goes from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Dubo's has such an interesting story because just

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago he almost gave up football completely.

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>He was playing at Division two Miles College, a small

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>school in his home state of Alabama. They they canceled

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>their season entirely in twenty twenty due to COVID, But

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>instead of completely walking away from the game, he decides

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to transfer to Charlotte and then you know, balls out

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>there in North Carolina and ends up being a seventh

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick of the Packers. And now he's he's

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>thrust himself into an opportunity for a roster spot. So

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing to touch on too is what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on at the tight end position with the Packers. A

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>good start preseason wise, I thought for Luke Musgrave and

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Tucker Craft, the two rookie draft picks, but the bad

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>news Tyler Davis went down with a knee injury in

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<v Speaker 1>the game in Cincinnati. Matt Lafleur basically all but confirmed

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that his season is over. The injury is quite significant

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<v Speaker 1>and and I wrote a story on Packers dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>that is on the website now as we're talking that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the value of a veteran tight end like

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<v Speaker 1>Josiah Deguara has has gone up considerably now with with

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the loss of Tyler Davis. Into Gua is just getting

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>himself back from a calf injury. He didn't play in

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the preseason game in Cincinnati, but he's back into the

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>eleven on eleven now he's taking reps with the first

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>team offense. Sometimes he's out there with Musgrave or with

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Craft in a two tight end set. Josiah Deguara, I

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>think is a guy to keep an eye on for

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<v Speaker 1>more on him. Be sure to check out the story

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>on the website.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely do that, and the thing about it too.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, Joe, people forget about this. You know he

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>originally tore his ACL on a special teams play. I

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 2>mean he was contributing not only is that Swiss Army

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 2>knife on offense, but also gave them some flexibility on

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>special teams right off the bat as well. And he's

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of had to catch up a little bit last

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>year getting back into a rhythm again. Certainly the offense

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>mostly ran through Mercedes Lewis and Robert Tunyan at that position.

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 2>But that job for him is only going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Grow on value now. I like where Green Bay sits

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 4>right now.

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.439
<v Speaker 2>When you look at what I mean, Luke Musgrave looks

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>like a guy that's going to be able to play

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>right off the jump. They have those those twenty one

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>packages per or twelve personnel packages where you have you

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 2>know Musker and Dguara. You have Muskrave and Kraft when

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 2>they want to use them both inline. I think both

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 2>of those guys have actually impressed me out of the

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 2>gate in terms of their blocking craft. Is just a

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>gritty guy that I think is going to get after it.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I think Musgrave has proved he's good enough, you know,

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 2>early on here to build upon that. But that you know,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 2>how this game goes, Mike, you need other guys to

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 2>step up too. Austin Allen six foot eight, two hundred

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and fifty three pounds out of Nebraska. This is a

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>huge opportunity for him to show what he can do.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>And I've really liked Henry Pearson too, the kid from

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>app State who is a tight ended app State. The

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Packers are labeling him as a fullback six foot two,

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and forty nine pounds, but he was the

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 2>guy that sort of stepped up when Josiah was out

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>in that h back role. All those guys are going

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 2>to have to find ways to contribute, and especially those

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>those last two. That's going to be who's going to

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>be carrying a bulk of the Packers snaps here in

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>these preseason games. Moving forward. I think Dre Miller also

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>was repping with the tight ends at practice on Monday.

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's the long term plan or

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>if that was just, hey, we need another guy with

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 2>those guys to get through this practice. But certainly the

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay Packers losing a guy like Tyler Davis, who

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 2>gives you so much on special teams in addition to

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the fact that I thought he was putting together a

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 2>good camp on offense, had the touchdown right before one

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>quarter earlier from Sean Clifford at the end of the

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>two minute. You hate to see that. Davis as a

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>kid that has done all the right things, set all

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the right things, had a tough preseason last year offensively,

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>but bounce back to lead the Packers and special team snaps.

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Sucks for him that a golden opportunity is presented, and unfortunately,

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 2>we know how the sport is, and we know how

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the preseason is. ACL injuries, you know, significant knee injuries,

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>they do happen, and unfortunately collected Davis.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 4>What a tough kid.

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 2>That dude is, though, right, I mean the fact that

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 2>he was able to get up and jog off the

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>field very labored, but still jogged off the field. I

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>think that really speaks to the type of character he

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 2>has and the way he approaches this game. Yeah.

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and with that we will call it a rap

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<v Speaker 1>on this edition of Packers Unscript.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd be sure to.

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<v Speaker 1>Follow all of our coverage of the team. We have

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the joint practices this week with the new England pots.

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 1>We will have all of it for you on Packers

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>dot com. So for Wes, I am Mike. Thank you

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>for tuning in everybody, and we will see you next time.

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<v Speaker 4>Hm.