1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hello Texas, and welcome to the program. Mark Vandermayer, John 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Harris with you. Training camp continues. We are a week 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: in to it, and I wrote about that on Houston 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: Texas dot com. Good evening, Johnny, We're a week in. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: What's your gut reaction. I'm gonna go gut reaction with you. 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Gut reaction a week ind I think practices have been 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: a lot cleaner than I expected. Today the two minute 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: drill was one of the better two minute, first two 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: minute drills of camp that I can remember. I thought it, 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: I thought it moved pretty quickly. I thought Trod made 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: a couple of big plays during the two minute drill. 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: It's a lot of those things that have been cleaner. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Here's one thing we haven't talked about, and I want 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: to make sure that I mentioned these two guys in particular, 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: and that's Frank Ross and Sean Baker. Now, I know 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: special teams coaches are always supposed to have a little 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: bit they are always they're always a little bit left 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: of center, if you will. But I'm telling you they 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: get those guys during special teams periods to treat it 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: like it's a defensive or offensive period. I'm telling you 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: there's more talking amongst players in the gunner drills in 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: the competition then just about anything else going on. And look, 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to be elite in special teams and 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: then stink in the other two areas. But I don't 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: want to be horrible and special teams. And I don't 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: think there's any way they're gonna be horrible the way 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that Frank and Sean coached those guys for special teams. 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: These players get it. Justin Reid, I watched Justin he 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at his numbers. Justice started 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: forty three of the last forty seven games, or the 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: forty seven games he's played in, not the last ones 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: because he missed a couple at the end of last year. 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: There's a couple at the end of the night, or 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: a couple of nineteen and then play. I think all 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: all of them started tenamons first year. Anyway, forty three 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: or forty seven starts on defense hardly. This is a snap. 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: He is treating the reps in defending gunners or being 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: a gunner as much as anybody a team like he's 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: the last guy in the team. It's been really impressive 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: to watch the commitment to the Special Teams and Frank 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Ross and Sean Baker, Frank Ross coordinator, Sean Baker, Especial 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: Teams Assistant. Those guys they get after it and the 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: players are following their lead, and it is really it's 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: really fun to watch. I know, I know what you 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: say about it, and that is classic band playing a 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: song from the new albums have to check out. As 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: far as practice goes, Yeah, as far as practice goes, man, 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they get work done. And it's pretty 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: impressive that you can get a bunch of professional football 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: players and get their attention and get them not only 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: to do Special Team, but to take it as serious, 52 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: to be as competitive as they are on Special Teams. 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: It's really fun to watch. Well, you know it's funny 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: because I have a new line for that now because 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: I decided that my classic rock band saying now we'd 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: like to play things from the new album is getting old. 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: So I decided to come up with a new one, 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: which I put in my vander Mayer's view, and that 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: was I feel like I'm watching an event planner set 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: up for a banquet. Right when I watched Special Teams practice, 61 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: like I'd rather just go to the Denner and yeah, 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: but that's how it looks to me. But I will 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: say this, Johnny, when this team hired Brad Seely, and 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: look in the early days of Texans history, Joe, you know, 65 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Joe Marciano, Joel Marciano, thank you very much, and his 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: brother Tony was actually o line coach in the early going, 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: but Joe Marciano coaching special teams. They were very good 68 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: early up and obviously there was a sort of dipping 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: point as team history continued. Brad Seely brought this thing 70 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: to a whole new level, right. I mean they were 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: really good. They were first or second in average drive, start, offense, defense, 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: either one for a couple of years. They did really well. 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Now they need to get that going again because last 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: year it took another dip and it feels like they're 75 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: spending more time than they've ever spent on it. Now 76 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: this current staff would only know what Romeo Cornell and 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: Bobby King and Jack Easter me are telling them. But 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: I think that so it has nothing to do with 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: the past. That's just the way they see fit. David 80 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: Culley wants to see it this way. Nikisserio wants to 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: see it this way, and they're doing it this way. 82 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: They spend a ton of time. I feel like, oh good, 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: I get to watch offense defense eleven on eleven. I'm 84 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: like more of this, please now. I'm just talking about 85 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: the sheer entertainment part of practice for my purposes, which 86 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: is really important to me. Obviously maybe not as important 87 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: to this success of the football team as they see it. 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: So you're right, they're spending a lot of time on it. 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: You see a lot of attention to detail. It's very cool. 90 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: I got another gut reaction for you. Tom Brady forty 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: four years old today. Gut reaction. Oh wow, I mean seriously, yeah, 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: forty For first of all, in daunam me, he's not 93 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: that much younger than me. I mean that was That 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: was the first thing that stood out. And the second thing. 95 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: It's also somebody else's birthday today, Zack Wilson. I thought 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: you were gonna go in another direction because it's Tron 97 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: Taylor's birthday today. Oh. I saw the players Celebrady that 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: on the field. Trod's thirty two, nothing compared to Brady. 99 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: I know. It's also Zach Wilson's birthday. He's twenty two. 100 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: He's half the age of Tom Brady, exactly half. Like 101 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: how I mean Zach Wilson's going, Hey, wait a second, 102 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: i gotta play twelve empty two years in the NFL 103 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: to match Tom Brady. Yep, it's been amazing. I mean, 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: a guy has found a way with this TV twelve 105 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: method or whatever the case might be, he has found 106 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: a way to somehow stay healthy, to fight through things. 107 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean last year, I mean dealing with the MCL. 108 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: I don't know how he did it. I have no 109 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: idea how he went about getting to a point where 110 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: he was could play every single week, but he did, 111 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 1: and he played extremely well in the playoffs, played extremely 112 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: well to Super Bowl, and that was like, Yeah, I'm 113 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: gonna go party with the team out of the bay 114 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go have surgery and I'll be fine. 115 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Like it's I don't know, he's he's incredible. Um. I'm 116 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: really glad that there was at least one time that 117 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: we saw up close to Texans beat him. That was 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: fun because what would what would be the next time 119 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: we would see them in twenty twenty three. I don't 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: know if we'll get to twenty twenty three, but unless 121 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: we make it in the super Bowl. That'd be awesome. 122 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: Then we can see him again, that would be really cool. 123 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: I'll take it, But I don't know if the last 124 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: time we saw him live in a regular season game 125 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: was that Sunday Night win over them. I mean, I'll 126 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, it's not the greatest thing in the world, 127 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: but it's the nice consolation prize after all the pain 128 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: he inflicted on all of us for all those years. 129 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I'll take it. Yeah. Look, he's hard not to like 130 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: in many ways. It's funny because that podcast that you 131 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: like Flying Coach, they talk about him, and it's interesting 132 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: because it's kind of like the way a lot of 133 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: people feel about him. You want to hate him, but 134 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: you kind of like him. Tom Brady, especially in the NFC. 135 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: Look with the Patriots, hate like poison. Healthy sports hate 136 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: like poison. But in the NFC, fine, And you're right, 137 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to see them in the super Bowl. Look, 138 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't always win the Super Bowl. He's been in 139 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: it ten times. He doesn't always win the Super Bowl. 140 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: He's lost three of them. So there's that. Aha, All right, 141 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: Johnny gut reaction to this, and we'll get back to 142 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Texas practice at a moment here, but I don't want 143 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: to get this out of the way early in the program. 144 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Gut reaction too, and this is Twilight Zone weird stuff. 145 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: The Colts lose Carson Wentz for five to twelve weeks 146 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: because of foot surgery, Quentin Nelson, they're all pro guard 147 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: foot surgery, five to twelve weeks. I have never seen 148 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: this in my life where you have two really good 149 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: players from one team, I mean even on separate teams, 150 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: but they have the same injury and the exact same 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: amount of time. And it's a weird amount of time. 152 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: Five to twelve We talked about that last night. It's 153 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: not like seven to ten or eight to ten weeks 154 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: or a couple of months. Five to twelve weeks and 155 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: they both have the exact same projection. And I know 156 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: some of this is media medical speak, but I think 157 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: the team is putting some of this stuff out there. 158 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Frank Reich says Wentz the surgery revealed no other complications 159 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: in his foot injury, so that's good for the cults. 160 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: We'll see how they play it. But what's your gut 161 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: reaction overall? I heard Frank Reich talk about Carson Wentz's injury, 162 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: and he was very matter of fact about it. But 163 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: I think Frank's defensive nature in listening to what he 164 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: had to say was his assumption that people would be 165 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: to a point where, hey, you guys should have known 166 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: about this, right, you know how you guys should have 167 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: known about this. It was an injury apparently that Carson 168 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: had back in high school that never got fixed properly, 169 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: and that's what's kind of reared its ugly had, and 170 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: so it makes you think, well, wait a second, is 171 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: that what Quintin had too, Something that was broken or 172 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, hurt back in high school or early in 173 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: college and just never got fixed, right, And now they're 174 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: looking at it going wa second, because I here's here's 175 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: my Chris Bower's playing chess sort of move. Wait a second. 176 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: Carson's off for five to twelve weeks, could be longer, 177 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: depending how rehab goes. All Right, Well, we don't have 178 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: to give a first round pick. Now, Hey, Quentin's been 179 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: dealing with the same thing. You know what, Let's just 180 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: let's take a bath. Let's just get it all out 181 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: in one year, all the hiccups, all the injuries. Everybody 182 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: will be fine after this. We'll take a six to 183 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: eleven record now, and then we'll be sitting there in 184 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: the top seven and they'll draft a young quarterback in 185 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: a way they go, that's that's my worry, is that thought. 186 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: But either way, for how it stands for the twenty 187 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: twenty one Colts, I mean, that's as disastrous as it 188 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: could get. I mean, to have the Q and Q 189 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: with the same injury. Yeah. Somebody wrote on Twitter, and 190 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: it may have been I think it's Greg Doyle writes 191 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: for the Indie Indie you start as the Apple Star. Yeah, 192 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: any star. The cults are cursed. Fuck yeah, I don't 193 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: know about that, given all the years of paid manning, 194 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: James Lee Clark, Reggie Wayne, you can miss me with 195 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: that whole cults are cursed sort of thing. Lease, but 196 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: it is highly unfortunate that this has happened to them 197 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: for their stake. Boy, their early schedule, Johnny, they have 198 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: the Seahawks at home, they have the Rams at home, 199 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: they go to the Titans, they go to the Dolphins, 200 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: they go to the Ravens, and then they have us 201 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: October seventeenth. I think that this is gonna be a 202 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: tough stretch obviously, but look, they are supposed to be 203 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: a good team, and I don't know what they're going 204 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: to trot out there at quarterback, but you should be 205 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: able to survive no Nelson for a few weeks anyway. 206 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if he gets back to his regular 207 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: form quickly enough for them, But they're already operating without 208 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: the left tackle that they've enjoyed services of and then 209 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: you have no Nelson, So I get it. It gets 210 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: thin in a hurry. And then what are they going 211 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: to do at quarterback? Is it the trade for Nick Foles? 212 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: All right? So that's them. Now back to the Texans 213 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: situation and the birthday boy to Rod Taylor, who is 214 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: thirty two years old today. So he looked good in 215 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: the two minute situation. You know what I liked from 216 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: him today was the ability to improvise and in pads 217 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: it seemed like, hey, lights came on. I came out 218 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: with the bright lights here, you know, under the overcast 219 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: guys at the Houston Methodist Training Center and made plays. 220 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, I'm no dummy. I know 221 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: that we have one of the best receivers in the 222 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: league on this football team, who also made a statement 223 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: today saying, yeah, I'm still here. I can still catch 224 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the rock and make big plays. Brandon Cooks look good today. Yeah, 225 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: I thought that two minute drill was fun to watch. 226 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: And I said this. I think it was today. I 227 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: may have said it on Monday as well. In Texas 228 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: training Camp fly with you, Guallas to eight and we're 229 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: always breaking news things that are going on, great interviews, 230 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: and we're talking about Saturday, and there's a lot been 231 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: made about Davis Mills and the interceptions and all that 232 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: kind of nonsense. The one thing that nobody brought up 233 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: in Landry and Job will love this. Nobody's talking about guy. 234 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Nobody mentioned the fact that Brandon Cooks really Saturday didn't 235 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: do a ton in practice. And he was back Monday, 236 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: back Tuesday, but he didn't do a lot in Saturday's practice. 237 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know if he, you know, tweaks something 238 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: or that was the way it was playing. I don't know. 239 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: But it's one thing to go against the once for 240 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: the first time. It's another thing to be down in 241 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: the red zone, which complicates matters. And by the way, 242 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna take away that guy, not really like take 243 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: him away, but you get my point. Brandon Cooks is 244 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: not going to be part of the mix, like wow, 245 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: now there. And I want to say Chris Conley was 246 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: maybe banged up a little bit on Saturday too, but 247 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: I can't recall them. One day Chris had at the 248 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: end of practice, he was out for a little bit, 249 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: and so I don't I don't. May have been Monday. 250 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: These days are all run together. Either way, Trod came 251 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: back on Monday. Things steamed much much smoother today in pads. 252 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: He just he looked comfortable. I saw him on his side. 253 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Was interesting to watch the interactions on the sidelines because 254 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: we've seen all those interactions on hard knocks, like I've 255 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: seen that on TV. Now I watched it right in 256 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: front of me. And when Trod smiles at you, I mean, 257 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: he smile lights up a room. But I saw him 258 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: going to Brandon Cooks and I could see them. Couldn't 259 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: hear him, but you can see like their hands are 260 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: doing like different route movements, and you know, all they 261 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: were very animated with one another and just kind of 262 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: the way they were going about the book, pack each 263 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: other and head it just really I liked the synergy 264 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: that's created with those two guys in particular. But Nicole 265 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Collins is stepping up. He is stepping up in a big, 266 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: big way, and I wouldn't be surprised if by the 267 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: middle of the year, as long as he stays healthy, 268 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Nico Collins was finding a way to make a pactful 269 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: place for this receiving corps, I wouldn't be surprised. All right, 270 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: I'll give you another one to think about today with 271 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: the team in pads and nine on seven and then 272 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: they go full squad and everything, and they were really 273 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: testing the running game today, so I'm sure you have 274 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of thoughts on the old line and how 275 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: they looked. But within that, the running game, particularly mark 276 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: ingram looking pretty good. And Philip Lindsay had a couple 277 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: of runs where I just said, okay, bubble wrap, bubble wrap. 278 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Because his lateral quickness, his ability in traffic to just 279 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: slide to I'm gonna go in this lane now. It 280 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: is really fun to watch and I just think he's 281 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of things in this ground 282 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: game when it's all said and done. He had a run. 283 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: You and I were watching it one run and I 284 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: was watching the videoboard, so I missed the run, like 285 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: right then, I went back and watching the video boards, 286 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: but I didn't see it live. That was one run 287 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: I know you mentioned to me, and it was very impressible. 288 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: There was one run later on where they were they 289 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: were in a gun. He was on the right side 290 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: and it looked like it was going to be an 291 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: outside zone player, kind of a wide zone play to 292 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: the left, and within two steps he sees a hole 293 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: back behind the center on the right side where you 294 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: just come from, and I'm like, first of all, how 295 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: do you see it? Plants his foot goes right back 296 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: through that hole and he has a way. We talked 297 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: about running backs, Oh make make yourself small, make yourself skinny. Whatever. 298 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: Now he's already a shorter guy, but he got himself 299 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: into kind of a I mean kind of a crouched 300 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of ball position where he was tiny and just 301 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: shot through the gap. And I mean it was ten 302 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: yards before anybody touched him. And I remember thinking as 303 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: I watched it, like, how do you see that cut? 304 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: So I turned it. I watched the videoboard like did 305 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: I see that? Right? Did he? Like? I went back 306 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: and I watched it. It It was almost more impressive to 307 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: see it because it's two steps and then I don't 308 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: know how he could see that because his eyesight had 309 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: to be to the play side to left B gap, 310 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: C gap over there, and somehow he's seeing a hole 311 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: the backside egg gap. I'm like, how that's the thing 312 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that to me like his toughness, his chip on the shoulder, 313 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: you know those things you talk about, mark his visions unbelievable. 314 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how he sees some of the things 315 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: that he sees. We've seen a lot of We've seen 316 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of running backs over the years here with 317 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: the Texans, but the way he sees things is different 318 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: from anybody else from that perspective, from a vision perspective. 319 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: The guy that he rids me of his Aryan. Aryan 320 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: could see things out on the field, and it was like, 321 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: how did you see that? And you're like, oh, man, 322 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: that stought. I don't know how Arian saw some of 323 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the things he did. I don't know how Phillips see 324 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: some of the things that he does. But that's what 325 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: to me makes the running back special is that staying 326 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: healthy and the vision to find open holes and then 327 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: get through them. Man at Rome was so impressive. I 328 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: was like, you're right. Put him in bubble rap. We're 329 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna go seeing up from thirty. I don't even want 330 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: to see him in preseason games and be honest with you, 331 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: wrapping them up. Let's go a week one, Jack, He'll 332 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: be fresh, he'll be ready to go, and he will 333 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: want to prove something that afternoon for the people that 334 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: have doubted him, don't believe in him. He will want 335 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: to prove something that day to them. Oh, I don't 336 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: think if anybody doubts Lindsay. I think if they doubt anything, 337 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: it's can he stay healthy for seventeen games? And I 338 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: think everybody's sort of on watch for that. But Johnny, 339 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I started filling out my fifty three and oh, it's 340 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: tough already. It's tough already. It's not time for us 341 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: to really do that yet. We'll do that in an 342 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: upcoming show. But you know, give you the players that 343 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: we're not quite sure about because you never know what 344 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: the coaches are thinking. And special teams is so important 345 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: for this squad. But man, these four running backs. You know, 346 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: David Johnson included his ability to catch the ball. You 347 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: look at Rex Burkhead every time you look up. He's 348 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: making a plan. You know what, I love about Burkehead. 349 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: He runs out everything. He runs out every ground ball, 350 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, he runs everything out. He runs everything into 351 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: the end zone. I'm gonna show you that I am 352 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: into this. And I know you went down a wormhole 353 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: watching his two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight 354 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: high school highlight videos. But you know this guy, he 355 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: was super dominant at that level. Went to Nebraska, obviously, 356 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: got himself into the National Football League, eventually with the 357 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: Patriots after a stint with the Bengals, and here he is. 358 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: But he's still to me, his attitude is exuberance. It's 359 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: like he's an undrafted rookie fighting to make the squad. 360 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: And I guess he is fighting to make the squad. 361 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean they all are in some capacity, but he's 362 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: fun to watch as well. They got a lot of 363 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: guys that who are fighting for their careers right now, 364 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: and they've been good pros. They know what it takes, 365 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: they know what it's like to stay here. They don't 366 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: want to not be here. And like Nick Kasserio David 367 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: Kelly had been saying all offseason long, competition makes everybody better, 368 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: and you could see it happening out there. They know 369 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: that there's so much at stake here the next few weeks. 370 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: What's interesting about Rex we've talked off season. First of all, 371 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: we didn't know Rex was gonna be ready to go. 372 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: I even I went on soliloquy one night about, hey, 373 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: you might have Rex later. So you have these three 374 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: running backs now speaking of Ingraham Johnson and Philip Lindsay, 375 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: and then Rex can come along with maybe one of 376 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: those guys get bangs up, gets banged up or what 377 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, whatever happens, and you're you know, you're back 378 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: to three again. But then Rex is ready to go 379 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: day one, You're like, whoa, Okay, Well, going back to 380 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: our discussion about special teams, they're gonna be deciding factors, 381 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: and special teams might be one. And I look today 382 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: one of the punt team units, I don't know which 383 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: one it was punk cover units, and it's all white 384 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: shirts and one blue shirt and the white shirts are 385 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: defense and it's one blue offensive shirt, number twenty eight 386 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: Rex burghead. Oh and you think, man, what's the separator? Well, 387 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: what's the separator? Because gosh, they're really they're all really 388 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: good ball carriers, they're all really good receivers. You know, 389 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Rex runs some tremendous routes. You know, SODA's David Johnson 390 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: is a wide receiver, Joe. What Rex play special teams 391 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: is that gonna make Is that gonna separate him for 392 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: everybody else? Do they decide, you know what, we're keeping 393 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: four because Rex does play special teams. We're gonna keep 394 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: four guys, and we know in seventeen weeks season we 395 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: might need to have all four, so maybe they keep 396 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: all four. But special teams can be the separator. Here's 397 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: another one kind along those lines. Every single day, I 398 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: want to say, the first guy out on the field 399 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: is Kevin Pierre Lewis. And while we're doing the show, 400 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: I look over there and you and I both see 401 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: him doing one thing, long snapping every day. First guy 402 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: out long snapping. He snapping the weeks every day, and 403 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: you think about what's the separator? Well, you know what 404 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: if we see where to get hurt and you don't 405 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: carry two long snappers on the field right or on 406 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: the team on game day, it's always one. So if 407 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: we see got hurt, it was gonna be something long term. 408 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm okay, well you've got for BRONI there is where 409 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: you go. But in a game, we see gets hurt, 410 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: who do you go to? And I remember that happened. 411 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: I think against Indianapolis one year. He is his ankle 412 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: was bad and I was like, who's gonna snap? Who's 413 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: gonna long snap? Well there's Kevin Pierre Lewis long snapping. Now. 414 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if KPL is going to earn a 415 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: starting job a linebacker, I don't know, But when the 416 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: decision comes down and they're going, hey, it's really close 417 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: between KPL and some other linebacker. Hey, you know what, guys, 418 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: if we need it, KPL can long snap if we 419 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: need it. If we gotta have it, something goes wrong, 420 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: that could be a separator, you know, coming Grugier Hill 421 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: kicked off in a game for the Eagles once. It's 422 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: the little things that might end up separating all these 423 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: veterans because they're so kind of closely bunched. They're all, 424 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, pretty similar in some regard. I think it 425 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: comes down to, hey, there's a little bit, as you'd 426 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: like to say, land yapp there and special teams. We 427 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: might have to keep this guy over that guy for 428 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: that particular reason. Well, you were going over the receivers 429 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: with Landry the other day when he put you on 430 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: the spot. And look, Andre Roberts is a hell of 431 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: a return guy. It's gonna be hard to keep him 432 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: off this football team. And you still have so many 433 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: choices at receiver beyond that obviously. Anyway, that's a discussion 434 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: for another time. We've got the General coming up, reloaded General, 435 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: among other things here on Texans All Access. Yes, yes, yes, 436 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: welcome back. This to the addition of Texans All Access. 437 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: John Harris sliding into nobody's DM, sliding into the chair 438 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: and taking you through the rest of the show. And 439 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: it's time to talk to the General. John McClain, who 440 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: we cut up with this morning. You don't want to 441 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: miss it live Texas Training Camp Live about eight fifteen. 442 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: But if you did, you're like, man, I really wish 443 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: I could. Well, I got you covered. Here you go 444 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: the General with us right here on Texas Access. So 445 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: let's bring on the General. John McClain from the Houston Chronicle. 446 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, General. So what did you make of the 447 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: quarterback situation yesterday? Well, not much with star Rod Taylor's 448 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: exactly what they expected him to be. Let's not get 449 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: carried away and been a starter during his season since 450 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: twoy seventeen because of injuries in the last two stops. 451 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: But he's so far ahead of the other guys, and 452 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: that's why they warned him. He knows pet Hamilton very well, 453 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: he knows David Culley very well. All the players praise him. 454 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: They talk about what a leader he is, the advice 455 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: he gives if they ask. He doesn't make mental mistakes. 456 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: And he's going into his eleventh years, so he is 457 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: at this point what they expect, and you hope he'll 458 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: be during the season. What they'll expect. A guy that 459 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: won't throw a lot of interceptions. They'll run the ball 460 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: a lot. He'll run the ball some. Last time he 461 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: was a starter, I think he had counted let's see, 462 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: he had well, I can't remember. I've written it so 463 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: much I can't remember what it is now. But he 464 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: had three times as many touchdowns passes and runs that 465 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: he did interceptions. And they take that into heartbeat general. First, 466 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: damn pads. Do you change your viewing pleasure if you will, 467 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: the different things you watch, the damn pads that you 468 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: have it before? Absolutely, John number one. The lineman don't 469 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: pay Pattycake anymore. The lineman can hit each other I 470 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: used to like it when we go down there on 471 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: that end and watch the offensive lineman and defensive lineman 472 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: do drills, especially any new player, whether he was a 473 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: veteran or a rookie going up in that corner against Watt, 474 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and you know, it's like it's like Superman had flown 475 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: by them. And that's what I like the most is 476 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: to watch the lineman hid. Now what I'm interested in. 477 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: You know, they don't take Underbill O'Brien, they didn't take 478 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: guys to the ground. You know, they don't want guys 479 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: on the ground. You're gonna go on the ground when 480 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: you get hit and bumped. Even though you're not gonna 481 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: get taken to the ground, you're gonna fall a lot. Well. 482 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: Under David Culley, will they do full contact and take 483 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: people to the ground the way he was talking about finishing, finishing, finishing. 484 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: That tells me, if you're gonna finish, you block that 485 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: guy's butt into the dirt, you jump on top of him. 486 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: Now that may not be what he what he means 487 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: out here in practice, but it's a whole new level 488 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: between pads and fans. You know, this is going to 489 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: be the best day of training camp. And you just 490 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: hope now entries don't start to mount, because that's usually 491 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: what happens. And they've been very fortunate up to this point. 492 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Everybody knocked one and I still I want to see 493 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: those line. I don't want to see the running backs 494 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: now that they can get hit, not taken to the ground, 495 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: but hit. And of course receivers when the dbs, you know, 496 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: they don't knock them down on purpose, but when you're 497 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 1: going for the ball, a lot of these guys are 498 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: going down. And of course they can't touch the quarterbacks. 499 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: But this is the best day so far. I think 500 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: today's the first day where and I've talked about this 501 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: before with the running back situation being what it is 502 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: with these four veterans to start off with general, it's 503 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting today because look, if you had you know, 504 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: if Derek Henry's on your team and he has a 505 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: couple of carries for a couple of yeards, You're like, 506 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: all right, sit down, yeah, Derek Henry. These guys you 507 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: gotta see what they still have in the tank. You 508 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: don't want to wear them out, but you want to 509 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: see what they have. You want to see is gonna 510 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: rise up? What do you make it at full competition 511 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: between these backs, they're not going to keep those four. 512 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: They may not keep but two of them. If they 513 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: do like the last regime, didn't you keep Buddy Howell 514 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: as a fourth back because he's a really good special 515 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: teams player, Then he's got a spot secured. But those 516 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: first four. You know, Burkehead I would think would be 517 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: the odd man out. But I also thought he might 518 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: start on pup coming off knee surgery, but he hasn't. 519 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: He hasn't skipped a beat, and the fact that he 520 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: came from four seasons in New England might be to 521 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: his advantage. If it's tie going to the runner, then 522 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: maybe Necessario wants the guy who's most familiar with But 523 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, pads are one thing. I can't wait. Next 524 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: week they're gonna be playing against Green Bay. Then we're 525 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: gonna see these backs, and I don't know how they're 526 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: gonna use them. I'm really interested to see how NFL 527 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: coaches used the three preseason games compared to four. But 528 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: that's when it's gonna all start to play out. As 529 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: far as these running backs, I think with seventeen games 530 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: and as much as they're gonna run the ball, they 531 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: hope to run the ball. You got to have three 532 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: because they're gonna be injuries, and and you've got to 533 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: have three year healthy now because you can keep veterans 534 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Again, maybe that fourth guy, say 535 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: it's Birkhead. Maybe he's happy to stick around with people 536 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: he knows, meaning Cassario, and and be on the practice squad, 537 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: knowing that's a good chance one of the first reason's 538 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: going to be injured. They cannot have a situation like 539 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: last year, David Johnson goes down, Duke's there, Duke goes 540 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: down where they got? You know that that put him 541 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: in a terrible situation last year and put him even 542 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: more pressure on Deshaun Watson throwing the ball. General, looking 543 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: at your crystal ball and tell us all how you 544 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: think the right side of the offensive line will pair 545 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: out play out. I think it'll be Titus Howard, Marcus Cannon. 546 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: So far behind. They like Charlie Heck, you know they've 547 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: played Mark they have. I know they liked Versatildy. But 548 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: putting a guy in three different positions the first week 549 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: does that do him any good, especially when he's third year, 550 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: He's had injuries his first two years. I don't know 551 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: if I like that, but I think Titus Howard be 552 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: the right tackle, and I think the right guard I 553 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: thought it would have been Wayne Taylor since he came 554 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: from Green Bay. He's had injuries, biceps wiped out twenty nineteen, 555 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: n knocked out, wiped out two and twenty. He was 556 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: He went to camp as the starter at right guard. 557 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Last year he played left guard, so considering James Camping 558 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: was his coach, I thought coming in he would have 559 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: the inside track. And now it's justin McCray. But if 560 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: they put Titus Howard in a game and he plays 561 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: well at right guard, and then Charlie Heck plays well 562 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: at right tackle, you know they'll do that. Campus is 563 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna put the five best out there. But it's like 564 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: people talking about Marcus Cannon at guard. He played guard once, 565 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't any good, and he moved into tackles. I 566 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: don't know why people think at thirty three, all of 567 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's going to be a good guard. And now, 568 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: of course he's way behind because of that knee surgery 569 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: had after the off season program. But I hope that 570 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: Taylor comes back early enough to get in the mix. 571 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: With McCrae at right guard. John ranked the top four 572 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: position groups. I assume offensive line would be first in 573 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: terms of overall depths. Well, I don't know enough about 574 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: the defensive line because there's so many new players. They've 575 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: never had depth at offensive tackle like they do now. 576 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Say it's say it's tunzill In Howard, then you got 577 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: heck they like him. They have the most senior member 578 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: of the offensive line with his team is Roderick Johnson. 579 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: He came here in two thousand and eighteen. And then 580 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: you have Marcus Cannon, who's won what three Super Bowl rings, 581 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: but he's thirty three and he's not able to pass 582 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: the physical Yet. That is five offensive tackles, and I 583 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to keep four, and that's gonna 584 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: be a tough cut inside. Who's the backup center if 585 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: something happens to Justin Brett, who's snapping the ball. I 586 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: also like the fact that Max Sharping is running with 587 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: the first team. You know, they haven't found anybody to 588 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: pop in there take his place, and maybe he'll bounce 589 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: back from the performance last season and play like he 590 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: did as a rookie when he showed so much promise 591 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know who's the backup center. We all 592 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: know Brett is the center. But they got depth at 593 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: tackle like never before. And they got depth at guard. 594 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: And that's what happens when you bring in so many veterans. 595 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: And it's the same way in the defensive line. All right, 596 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: but finish the answer, second and third and fourth position 597 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: crew that have the most depth. Yeah, okay, offensive lines 598 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: number one, i'd see defensive lines number two. They got 599 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: seven tight ends, and that's going to be a hard cut, 600 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I would think tight ends. And I don't know enough 601 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: about a lot of the linebackers until you see him play. 602 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: And so they brought in fewer players in the secondary 603 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: than before. So offensive line, defensive line, tight end, and 604 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't think wide receiver is going to be that tough. 605 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: I think only one cut. In the running back, they well, 606 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: they got great depth that running back. You have four 607 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: veterans had played extensively in the NFL, So I'll put 608 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: running back at the other one. Okay, general last year, 609 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: at this time watching the twenty twenty draft class, I 610 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: remember thinking, Yo, we're not getting much out of this class, 611 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: Like it's it's not gonna happen that particular year, I thought, 612 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: if Grenard had not gotten banged up early thought, okay, 613 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe Grenard, But I was like, man, we're not gonna 614 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: get much out of his class. The twenty one class 615 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm watching in a whole different vein. What have you 616 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: been your thoughts thus far? Davis Mills will put him 617 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: to the side for a second. But Brevin Jordan, Nico Collins, 618 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Garrett Wallow, Roy Lopez, what have you seen from this 619 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: rookie class and how does it compare to last year's 620 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: at this well, because they have signed so many veterans, 621 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't expect much contribution from this rookie class, and 622 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: Nico Collins would be a guy to do it. But 623 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: like Cully said yesterday, he's getting better every day, but 624 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: he's not where they want. You know, he doesn't have 625 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: the consistency, which is not surprising considered he's a receiver, 626 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: a rookie, and he opted out last year. I would 627 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: love for somebody to keep track of every player who 628 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: opted out of his last year of college and the 629 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: NFL how they do this season? Do they start slow, 630 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: do they get nagging injuries, or do they step up 631 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: and not skip a beat? But I'm pumped now about 632 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: last year's class going into their sophomore year when they 633 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: shouldn't make their biggest adjustment, And how Grenard does rushing 634 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: an end like he did at Florida, not three or 635 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: four outside linebackers. You guys know, if you didn't play 636 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: at college, if you had your hand in the ground 637 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you got to stand up 638 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: and think and watch this cover cover Watch does the 639 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: tight end come out? If he doesn't do I rush oaps, 640 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: I got the running back. There's just so much to think, 641 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: and now they don't have to think much. It's like 642 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: Whitney Mersel said, seaball get ball, and I think that's 643 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna be great for John Garnard going into the second 644 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: year John Reid. Bill O'Brien loved John Reid, but John 645 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: Reid's got a lot of competition and he's really gonna 646 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: have to step it up. John quick one for you 647 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Colts situation at a quarterback, how 648 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: do you think they handle it? I think they drade 649 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: for Nick falls and I think the Bears don't don't 650 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: drive a hard bargain. It'll be a conditional pick based 651 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: on how much he plays and what they accomplished with 652 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: him there. General, thanks a lot for joining us once again, 653 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much. As always, it's always a 654 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: blast to catch up with the General. So if you're 655 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: missing eight fifteen, a lot of times we got your 656 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: covered at night. Not always, but you don't want to 657 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: miss at eight fifteen in the mornings Texas Training Camp 658 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: Live for the rest of this week from eight to 659 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: ten at least you Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and then money 660 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday next week and then that's it for Texas Training 661 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: Camp Live. So we're halfway through five down five to 662 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: go on Texas Training Camp Live. You don't want to 663 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: miss you, and you won't want to miss PQ. We 664 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: used to have d Q. Now we got PQ with 665 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: the Texans. A little deep slant with Paul Quessenberry next 666 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 1: right you here in Texas Alexis, Alexis, We're going follow 667 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: a segment this Tuesday at issue of Texas All Access. 668 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, and I'm gonna turn over 669 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: to my good friend Deep Soony for a little deep 670 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: slant with tight end Paul Quessenberry. Now, if that name 671 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: sounds familiar, well should If you remember David Quessenbury. This 672 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: is Paul, his younger brother in a really interesting background. 673 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: Paul Quisenberry. A little deep slant for you here. It's 674 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: the deep slant one on one percent of bikes. Fanime. 675 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: My guest today, tight end Paul Quessenberry. Paul, what's it 676 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: like being out here? First day in full pads? How 677 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: has camp been for you so far? First day full 678 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: pads is great? I mean, this is actually real football finally. 679 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: We've all been working real hard for this. So did 680 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: you get out here and actually, you know, put the 681 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: pads on and hit each other? It was a lot 682 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: of fun and camp seeing great. It's been a beautiful 683 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: adjusting to this wonderful Houston weather. So we're enjoying it 684 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: and getting better every day. So you signed with the 685 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: Texans this offseason, but you're not really new to Texans camp. 686 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: You were here back in twenty fifteen. Were you not 687 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: with Rooky Mini Camp? Yeah? I was. I signed back 688 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen as a undrafted free agent. I was 689 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: competing that linebacker spot back back in the day. But 690 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: obviously things have changed. So here we are a lot 691 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: of things have changed. But I got to point out 692 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: your last name, Quests and Bury. So if it's familiar 693 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: to fans, it's because you are the younger brother of 694 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: David Questsbury who was back in camp back then as well. 695 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: And you've got one more younger brother, right, Scott. So 696 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: the three of you are now in different places throughout 697 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: the way, right, yes, here correct, Scottie is with the Chargers. 698 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: He's going into his fourth year. David Lee my older brother. Obviously, 699 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: the fans and everyone out here in Houston no see 700 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: who he is. He's going into year nine. And then 701 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: there's me going into year two. But I'm the middle brother. 702 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: So things don't kind of add up. Okay, so let's 703 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: get to why they don't add up. Twenty fifteen year 704 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: a rookie. But then you went at into the military 705 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: for six years, right, So what went into that decision 706 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: to give up football and to go into the military 707 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: and give us a little bit of a rundown of 708 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: your service at that time? It wasn't like my decision, 709 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, if I had had it 710 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: my way, I would have made the team after Ricky 711 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: mni caamp and got to play in the NFL. However, 712 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: the alternative was, you know, I graduated from the United 713 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: States Naval Academy and oh my time to the service, 714 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: whether that be the Navy of the Marine Corps. And 715 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: I got cut and I had a great plan B, 716 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 1: which is to go serve my country as a second 717 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: lieutenant in the Marine Corps. I commissioned. I graduated from 718 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: the Basic School in Quantico, Virginia, got my MS, my 719 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: military Occupational specialty, which is an infantry officer, went to 720 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: Infantry Officers Course, then got my first order to my 721 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: first Battalion, second Battalion, first Marines out of Camp Penalty 722 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: in California. Shout out to Fox Company, third Platoon, those 723 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: are my boys. And from there, you know, I was 724 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: a platoon commander. I was in charge of forty guys 725 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: going out training, working hard, putting in a lot of 726 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: time similar to uh, you know, football, blood, sweat and 727 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: tears with those guys every day. And that experience was 728 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: huge for me, like I would not be here if 729 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't for them. And the time that I shared 730 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: serving alongside those Marines. They taught me so much about 731 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: being a professional, how to push through adversity, and you know, 732 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: a whole slew of other things. I'm forever grateful for 733 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: that experience, but I got to a point in my 734 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: career where I felt like I still had some gas 735 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: left in the tank for football, and I just kind 736 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: of that's that's a long story how that all panned out, 737 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: but that's a that's a good six year recap though. 738 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: So first of all, thank you for your service. And 739 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: then last year you decide, you know what, you still 740 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: had that itch to play football, and then it happened 741 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: right you were going to go out and do a 742 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: pro day. Things didn't work out, but you spent last 743 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: year on the Patriots practice squad. You made the switch. 744 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: You said linebacker when you're hearing twenty fifteen, but you 745 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: went from defense to tight end. So tell me about 746 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: how that switch went down and how you decided to 747 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: do that. So I played defensive end in college. Too 748 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: small to play defensive end in the NFL. Obviously, the 749 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: Texans had a little bit of interest in me and 750 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: my ability to play linebacker. Came out here and found 751 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: out that wasn't going to work. But I knew leaving 752 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: from rookie minicamp that year that I had the athletic 753 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: ability to contribute on the field at the NFL level. 754 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: So over the years. I just started paying attention to 755 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: what positions, you know, there were that I could go do. 756 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: And I started watching the fullback position, you know, a 757 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: tight end, hybrid fullback. I started researching all the guys 758 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: like how big were they, you know, kind of like 759 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: how strong and fast and all that, and I came 760 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: across James Devlin, former New England Patriots fullback. You know, 761 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: absolutely incredible person and a good friend of mine. He 762 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: wasn't a friend of mine initially, but his story kind 763 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: of lined up with mine. It was like, you know, 764 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: he didn't get any looks played in the NFL after college. 765 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: He played defensive end in college and then went to 766 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: play some semi pro leagues for a few years, and 767 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: then made the Bengals practice squad and then New England 768 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: got word that, you know, they had a tough fullback 769 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: over there, and they signed him and he played for 770 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: them for eight years. And he's a freaking Patriots legend 771 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: and he had just retired last year. So I reached 772 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: out to him out of the blue and I said, hey, James, 773 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: you know, I've been following you and your story kind 774 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: of gave him my background. And James said, hey, man, 775 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: I tell you, what if you fly out here to 776 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey, I'll train you. So I bought a flight 777 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 1: two days later and trained with James for ten days 778 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: and he taught me how to play fullback and ended 779 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: up getting a shot with the Patriots. And now here 780 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: we are all right. So here you are at tight end. 781 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: So you've got a little bit of fullback coaching. You've 782 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: got the defensive side of you that played. What do 783 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: you bring to the tight end group with the Houston 784 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: Texans because you've got such a varied skill set. Um, shoot, 785 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. We got such a group of guys. 786 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: Everyone's so talented in our room. I just try to 787 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: be an example. I try to go as hard as 788 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: I can every play that I'm in, whether that be 789 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: on offense, special teams, you know, on the red teams, 790 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: for the special team scout look, whatever it is, like 791 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: if it's a hot day, tough practice, and guys are 792 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, struggling, if they see me like still going 793 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 1: as hard as I possibly can, maybe that's gonna flip 794 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: a little switch internally for them, and you know, we 795 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: can accomplish what we need to accomplish. I left out 796 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: the military experience because that may be your greatest experience 797 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: of all and you got to check out his instagram. 798 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: You've got some great pictures from your platoon. So happy 799 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: to see you back here in Houston. I don't think 800 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: we met back in twenty fifteen, but welcome back and 801 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: best of leut for the rest of the camera, thank 802 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: you appreciate it, Thanks for having me. No, thank you, Paul, 803 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: and a big thanks to DP as well, Mark to 804 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: the General, to all of you for this, and we'll 805 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: see you. Mar Budian has always go Texans.